JP off the mark in style
9 Sep 2006
Springbok debutant JP Pietersen showed that he has a future at Test level with a solid performance at fullback at Ellis Park.
Apart from a single dropped high ball that led to a penalty and three points after flank AJ Venter deliberately played the ball from an off-side position, Pietersen did everything that was expected of him.
But as is expected of a player making his Bok debut, he didn’t get much rest last night. “I didn’t sleep much last night,” Pietersen said. “This morning I was still up. I went to the toilet a lot. But it in the end it was a great thrill to have played my first Test.”
The senior players helped calm his nerves and he showed a maturity way beyond his 20 years. At one stage he also showed his pace, winning the race to the ball that had been hacked ahead by the visitors. He was first there and then managed to earn a scrum for his efforts.
“The older guys made it much easier. It was really like playing a game for the Sharks and was actually much easier than I expected. I was really comfortable and felt really good.”
As the Wallabies had warned, Pietersen and Wynand Olivier were peppered with high balls all afternoon, but both came through that test with reputations intact.
“I knew it was going to come and I was lucky I just missed one otherwise it was good,” he said. “I did my homework on that. There was not a lot of attacking opportunities, but I took the opportunities I did have with both hands.”
“I still have a lot to work on and hopefully I will get another chance.”
By Andrew Hollely, at Ellis Park Stadium
93 Comments
9 Sep 2006, 18:44 pm
i still think aplon is a better fullback
9 Sep 2006, 18:45 pm
pieterson is good but gio has the x factor
9 Sep 2006, 18:52 pm
what did aplon do in this years super 14? dont use currie cup form as any gauge for test rugga.
9 Sep 2006, 19:04 pm
well done boks well done to the young sharks fullback guys is this the end of percy
9 Sep 2006, 19:19 pm
Gio Aplon is a poor mans Russel.
If Russle is too small, then Aplon has no chance.
Sounds like JP can only go from strength to strength.
9 Sep 2006, 19:21 pm
breeker
Class and talent will show through no matter what league you are in and Aplon has this in abundance
9 Sep 2006, 19:26 pm
dont get me wrong people jp is good and will get even better, but Aplon is magical maybe a place could be found for both of them. Aplon on the wing?
9 Sep 2006, 19:34 pm
I hope this is not the beginning of another campaign by the WP supporters. We have only just managed to get over your braying about Luke, not it begins with Aplon.
Come on guy’s a bit of perspective, Gio has only shone on 2 games, in the last 2 weeks. A level head is needed and the rest of us cannot withstand another CT media hurricane telling us that the world is being cheated of a Cape talent.
Gio will have next years S14 to prove his worth, before then he is just a good performing Currie cup player, no more. Luke has proven, if nothing else that no matter how much you like someone, it does not make him good enough for the Bokke.
9 Sep 2006, 19:41 pm
In about 4 years time this lad will be as old as Aplon but he will be much better.
He will be the starting fullback for the Sharks in next years S14 working closely with Campo and Percy to develop his game. By the time that RWC’07 comes around he will be ready and one of the stars.
9 Sep 2006, 19:47 pm
Exactly Red…
Methinks the WP brigade are getting too carried away with one player(again).
JP, is the man of the future, if he stays on form (that is a message for JW). Currently JP is there because he has played well consistently, through the S14 & CC, not just one or two games in the CC. I understand Aplon was awesome in 7′s & he was very good Friday nights game, but that does not make you a springbok.
When JW does eventually see the merit of having a playmaker & stepper, I think Russle is first in the que, by some way (at current form).
9 Sep 2006, 19:47 pm
Bill #8
Must copy and save this post , how many times can it be used with different names.
Yes guys and girls we must not loose perspective
9 Sep 2006, 19:55 pm
okay point taken.but its only a matter of time before im proven right
9 Sep 2006, 19:57 pm
# 8
Watson Province pretty quiet now they’ve been shown up in the loose forwards over a couple of games.
They’re pretty good but not quite as good as their supporters believe.
9 Sep 2006, 20:04 pm
Akes, I hope so, becuase if you are proven right, it will mean he is the best 15 in SA.
9 Sep 2006, 20:53 pm
JP’s better then aplon… give aplon a season to prove he’s the best and then we will reconsider, aplon should maybe stick to 7′s and make extra cash at super14 level like basson..
9 Sep 2006, 21:19 pm
Aplon is another Brent Russel brilliant but not placeable. Sorry Get a dedicated fullback in the vein of Percy. JP has my vote for the future!
9 Sep 2006, 21:36 pm
Aplon is too small !
9 Sep 2006, 21:44 pm
ha ha ha!
9 Sep 2006, 21:53 pm
Have anybody listened to what Jannie Engelbrecht said about Gio Aplon on an mnet rugby program?Those who are complaining about Aplons size must take a look at what happened to players like Ricky January and the Bulls backline.Creatine +pumping too much iron slows you down.
9 Sep 2006, 21:56 pm
look, i love watching aplon, but lets see what happens at a higher level.
did anyone notice that they listed JP’s weight as 120kg and height 2m at the start of the game when they showed the lineup. surely he is not 120 kgs.
9 Sep 2006, 22:00 pm
jp off the mark in style….do me a favour! the oke dropped a ball right infront of the poles just beyond his own 22m
aplon doesnt need to prove himself in any kak super 14 comp,hell no sa team has ever won that forum and i see the bok are loaded with dutchies from pretooooria,mmmm that would explain the recent demise.
started on end of year tour last year and has gathered momentum.however spies is a rather special player and a exception to the rule.
9 Sep 2006, 22:01 pm
None of those ex boks seemed to be happy with the current selections and game plan of Jake,maybe they had a bit more freedom to say what they wanted.Unlike Naas and Joel the famous fence sitters
9 Sep 2006, 22:03 pm
haydn sais,thats what the ous from loftus verloorsveld said before both there encounters with wp this year and look what happened you knuckle head.
oh…”we are going to moer him,flatten him and so on” bwahahahahaha aplon has more talent in one eye lash than jp has in his body boet….period
9 Sep 2006, 22:06 pm
precisely akes1,even mallet kopped it from bok hq for speaking about over priced match tickets….yet it was the same palookahs who asked him to attend THAT meeting of all the ex bok coaches last week.
my oh my some people are rather shallow indeed.it seems all the outspoken chaps come from cape town and ALL the ‘clones’ come from pretooooria,the mind boggles
9 Sep 2006, 22:08 pm
Thug
I agree.Jp seemed to be hiding himself.Didnt even notice he was on the field until that error
9 Sep 2006, 22:10 pm
Cape thug, haven’t you got posters to make, Luke for president & Aplon for pope!
They are not in the Bok side for a good reason. Nice that you compare Aplon’s size with JP’s eyelash. They probably weigh the same!
JP is there because he deserves it! Gio is not there because he does not deserve it. No conspiracy bud.
Sad you have to get all provincial after a Bok victory. Especially after you got such a whipping on Friday, with the world famous Luke & Gio!
Is this about to turn into a 2 person parade?
9 Sep 2006, 22:12 pm
cape thug, i am not bull but tell me, where would we have been tonight without FDP, Spies and Matfield?
cummon man, this is the the bokke, leave you wp vs bulls agenda somewhere else. it is like being on holiday or going to dinner with a couple that are always bikkering.
9 Sep 2006, 22:13 pm
spot on The Bill
9 Sep 2006, 22:13 pm
Are you all waiting for the highlights tonight? I hope they don’t replay the whole of the Sale Northampton game & then the 4 minute Bok Oz highlight again!
9 Sep 2006, 22:20 pm
knersboy,i don’t recall say anything harsh about victor,spies or man of the match(and top scrummie in sa) du preez,its the mentality the boks have my china,bash it up and hope for the best.
wanneburg and cronje are clueless! even a guy like botes from the clown fish could do better or prehaps knew clown fish signing for next year….the once immortal bob himself!
brains will always win over brawn old chum,look at france in rwc 1999 against all blacks and the frogs again against the boks at newlands this year!
eddie andrews,supposedly bigger and stronger than his opposite number got snapped in half that day.
russell,a classic example of a wasted talent.should have satyed in cape town brent,atleast the crumpet down here shave under there armpits hehe
9 Sep 2006, 22:21 pm
joke wit MUST be fired.give rassie and **** a go.
9 Sep 2006, 22:54 pm
Cape thug, now you the one not using their brain. Rassie & **** have had 1 S14 & are on their 2nd CC, with limited experience in Club rugby (****).
Mad to throw them in at the deepend, illequiped.
Anyway, thank goodness the Boks are run with people with more brains than you.
I don’t think that you automaticaly can asume the intellegince high ground, just because your guys are not as big & strong. You play a different game. In fact if you want to talk about more intellegent, the Cheatas had your number on Friday, there is no points for running like headless chickens & having one player try to do all the work!
9 Sep 2006, 23:07 pm
bill,lay off the samp and beans.
brains…joke wit,do me a favour!
oh and watch your spelling **** face.
“just because wp are not big and strong”….what a silly thing to say!
precisely what is wrong with the boks set up at present,
they need to learn how to run around a wall and not through it.classic example,breytie coming on for green horn ndungane who is as quick as os is after pulling a hammie!
9 Sep 2006, 23:07 pm
Cape Thug you are linning yourself up for a cape , your head as a trophy in someones plaas toilet , those long drops on Geo,s farm will be the best spot for you
9 Sep 2006, 23:10 pm
superbul,you been snarfing stevie hoffs dirty under rammies son?
liefling bwahahahaha
only good thing to come out of pretoooooria are those cheerleaders but i noticed some of them dont shave under there arms…siesa
9 Sep 2006, 23:38 pm
Andrew, did you attend the game? What **** are you writing. Pietersen called a mark inside his 22 and then had to tap and pass the ball to Pretorius to kick. Because he can’t! Can you recall any South African test fullback that would do that? He is ****, an Ivan October quota selection.
Please man, give us real insights, not the popular Sharks **** – oh look how he runs. Like Forrest Gump, I might add.
He is a wing and I will back him to play at the World Cup at either 11 or 14, but please, not 15. Even grandad Percy, Roets, Aplon, Fortuin, Rose, Mangweni and Luke Watson are better fullbacks!
10 Sep 2006, 00:25 am
Poublou LMFAO and what proffesion do you confess to come from to make such a harsh statment? you a proffesional rugby player? what contribution have you mader to the South African rugby of late? (if you can clear that up for use we can take your opinion to heart)
10 Sep 2006, 01:03 am
poublou # 36
Interesting. Luke was at fly half much against the cheetahs. Is he now wanting a No 15 jersey too?
hehehehe
10 Sep 2006, 02:26 am
jp pieterson is 1.90m and 93kg’s i think. aplon is about 1.77m and 75kg. based on size, pieterson should be in the side. but when one thinks of things such as speed, sidestepping, kicking, you just have to see aplon to realise how brilliant he is. his balance and positioning (an underrated facet of fullback’s game) is incredible. another factor to think about, is that aplon is yet to be bounced and run over like russell, joe pieterson, earl rose and other flair players have been (which had effectively ended chances of playing international rugby). aplon is superb on defense. if aplon can pick reach 85kg, he should surely make the springbok team, because matt giteau weighs that, and he plays in a far more physically demanding position (inside centre). in the end, what are we worred aplon will not be able to do because of size? if the answer is tackle, then you have not watched much CC action this year. and the question of giving him more experience is bullshit. isaia toeva was plucked out of obscurity to play for the kiwi’s last year. south africa is in desperate need for game-breakers, and in aplon we finally have one who combines swift feet with gutsy tackling.
10 Sep 2006, 04:45 am
Aplon is a nobody who has played against nobodies. Let the boy-child get a few years under his belt and a few good beltings in the S14 before he even deserves to wear green, socially.
10 Sep 2006, 04:52 am
Aplon? Sounds like a Japanese kitchen garment. To protect your kimono while doing a quick stirfry.
Does the lad still live with his parents? Still tied to them by the aplon stlings?
Geo whizz!
10 Sep 2006, 04:55 am
JP is 1.90 metres. That’s six foot three. He’s a pretty large okie. Way taller than SA’s player of the century and a lock-forward, Frik du Preez!
Amazing, hey?
10 Sep 2006, 08:02 am
JP is not a Springbok fullback – he didn’t had a good game – plenty of times he were nowhere back when larkham kicked (du preez had 2 safe our asses, as did plenty of the loosies when jp were nowhere 2b found)
10 Sep 2006, 08:46 am
Pietersen Played well in his first game, defended well, took all but one of the high balls thrown at him, came into the backline a few times one of which led to Paulse’s try. He has shown that he is solid and has a great future ahead of him in Springbok rugby. He should ahe come into the side in Australia and NZ to give Monty a break.
Well played JP, can’t wait to watch you over here in the UK.
10 Sep 2006, 08:55 am
Daggles and where were he when larkham turned us around with kicks – duPREEZ AND WANNEBERG had 2 safe his *** plenty of times – he is 2 predictable
10 Sep 2006, 10:17 am
I often wonder how people manage to use so little of their brain when watching a rugby match.
First, they don’t really have a grasp of the technicalities of positioning. Then, just like primary school children, they follow the ball in sheep-like herds, forgetting all about the rest of the field.
Suddenly, they see a hole or a guy not in his “prescribed” position, and they blame the first relevant person they can think of. Usually, it’s someone they don’t like — if they manage to be intelligent enough to recognize that even their golden boys can make mistakes, they’re still too stupid to pick the correct culprit (if there even WAS a culprit — much of what these fools cry about is completely imaginary).
Du Preez and Wannenberg “covering” for Pietersen isn’t because of anything Pietersen did wrong. They didn’t just magically appear back there. Wings and fullbacks get involved in play. When they do, there is a system of rotation in place to ensure that the field is covered. The players know who they have to cover for, and do so accordingly.
If the fullback is pulled into the play and suddenly a kick goes sailing overhead into no-man’s land, then the responsibility of covering that ball was first the wings’, and then a rotating group of others. Blaming the fullback for actually playing the game just seems utterly daft to me. This is especially so when he is not at fault for others’ errors.
Get a clue, guys.
10 Sep 2006, 10:54 am
If you look closely when du preez had to save his ***. You will find JP jogging over towards the ball at the top right of the tv screen.
10 Sep 2006, 11:14 am
A fullback that cannot take a high ball is a kak fullback. peroid.
No matter what other good qualities he might have.
Roets and Pienaar are way better.
Pietersen only made it because the quota system….
10 Sep 2006, 11:38 am
cummon man it was his first bok game, he is only 20, and it was againt the aussies, give him a break and keep some perspective. remember johnny wilkinson’s first few games?
this oke can take the high ball, i have seen him do it in super 14 and cc. and GWB, pienaar is a scrummy.
marrauding is right. it is the number 8′s job to cover the fullback. so maybe JP didnt have the best positional game, like i said, it is just the beginning for this oke and he aint no quota.
i also rate roets, but is he a long term solution? i dont think so. now was the time for jake to start blooding JP because he is the long term solution.
10 Sep 2006, 11:42 am
Kners, Like his dad, ruan will become a legend after 5 games. he has it all to become a second Cullen.
Old Pissant also agrees with me on this one.
10 Sep 2006, 11:43 am
and there is no long term. It is all about the WC next year. Then Roets should be the man.
10 Sep 2006, 11:57 am
Roets is not the solution. We dont need just another “steady” fullback.
10 Sep 2006, 12:02 pm
Sorry no 50# the cullen comparison has already been snapped up by Aplon. Ruan is a scrumhalf.
Or is this positional switch just a way of keeping Du Preez there?
10 Sep 2006, 12:05 pm
It is either a steady fullback or another percy.
You choose.
I say Ruan is the answer.
10 Sep 2006, 12:05 pm
akes1
The bulls supporters will do anything to keep that average scrumhalf called Fdp in the team. Aplon is the man for fullback. Must be looked after. Ruan IS a scrumhalf. Dont understand why he must be pushed into another position. The two scrumhalves with the most potential in SA is RP and jano vermaak.
10 Sep 2006, 12:06 pm
ruan has stated over and over that he wants to play scrummie. i do believe he will be a star though, but at scrummie.
all i am saying GWB is that u have to give JP a chance and trying to rubbish his talent by calling him a quota is unfair.
last year when JP came to the fore in the currie cup i could not watch cc. i heard about this JP oke over and over again and only when i watched the first super 14 game did i notice that he was coloured.
nobody mentioned it once, which is how it should be.
10 Sep 2006, 12:09 pm
We do not need to keep Du Preez, he keeps himself there. he is the best in the country by far.
Ruan is still young enough to develop into a very good fullback. he has everything for it. Speed, sidestep, good kick with both feet and most importantly, he can take a high ball.
10 Sep 2006, 12:10 pm
Seeing that we dont have any obvious choices on the wings I will play JP on the wing. Aplon at fullback. YES, Ruan is a scrummie – that is where he wants to play – keep him there.
10 Sep 2006, 12:16 pm
FdP is in the team, yes but so is JC. Getting picked for the Boks is no real measurement – we all know that.
I have another big worry. Pierre Spies – I rate this guy. But Im worried that in two years’ time he will be another Pedrie or JC. I’ve watched P3 since he played schoolboy rugby. Used to be mobile but as soon as he joined the bulls he put on a lot of bulk and lost all his speed. The same for JC. PS’s big attribute is his speed – without that it will be a problem.
10 Sep 2006, 12:20 pm
JP tried hard, but far from convincing, dont get ahead of it.
10 Sep 2006, 12:22 pm
Spies will be fine. The other two are good players, but Spies is pure class. Don’t worry about him.
As for the Fourie vs. Pienaar thing — Jake is actually handling that perfectly right now. Pienaar will be the world’s best scrummie in 3 or 4 years’ time. Right now, though, Fourie is the man for the job — whether you like him or not, he was the form scrummie in this year’s 3N, and has never been less than solid in a Bok jersey. All the doubters must have blinds on their eyes.
As for playing Pienaar at fullback — ARE YOU CRAZY? The single most troubling thing for talented players in South Africa is the propensity for different coaches to play okes out of position. I’m tired of all this bullshit about this bloke moving here and that oke going there. A player gets noticed at a position for a reason: he’s good there. Pienaar oozes class, and yes, he probably would make a good flyhalf or fullback. But JP’s going to be a world class fullback, and Pienaar is going to be an absolute legend at scrummie. JUST LEAVE IT BE.
As for the “quota” statement, GWB, you should be absolutely ashamed of yourself. JP had an outstanding Super 14, and has shown that he possesses all the attributes of the very best fullbacks. What else does he have to do? Twat.
10 Sep 2006, 12:25 pm
#60
cab, I don’t know what else he has to do to convince you, then. I saw fantastic support play and an intuitive sense of when to join the line. I saw pace and I saw guile. I saw solid defence and excellent positional play.
In fact, I only saw two mistakes all day. One was a lapse in concentration that found him slightly out of position in a situation where it didn’t matter too much anyway, since his wing was back and covering. The other was the single high ball he dropped all day, despite an early peppering.
10 Sep 2006, 12:29 pm
GWB,roets,play for the boks…umm maybe not.
aplon has more talent in one eye lash than that dutchie has in his ligaaaaam.
10 Sep 2006, 12:31 pm
cape thug
Sometimes u can talk sense but leave this dutchie thing – do u have issues?
10 Sep 2006, 12:32 pm
I like Aplon, but I’d like to see him make it through a Super 14 first and then judge afterwards. A very exciting player, though.
10 Sep 2006, 12:38 pm
catfish,
Like his names says, he has issues.
n Dutchie het hom seker lekker gemoer een of and tyd.
Aplon is just nippy in the broken play, but nothing more.
10 Sep 2006, 12:44 pm
GWB
Nee ‘n dutchie het hom nie gemoer nie. Dit was ‘n dutchie se klein sussie.
10 Sep 2006, 12:46 pm
Mwhuhahhaaa, Catfish!
10 Sep 2006, 12:47 pm
GWB (re #66)
Ja, that’s sort of the feeling I get, as well. Great when there’s a loose scrap going on, but it’s a different story when the going gets tough.
We’ll see, though.
10 Sep 2006, 12:58 pm
Aplon is talented, but he will not be able to stop Lote or Rocokoco, no matter how big his heart is.
10 Sep 2006, 13:35 pm
JP did nothing spectacular. He should look around for the offload. That way Spies could have scored under the posts. He didn’t stand out for me. I think Aplon should get a run against Ireland, and if he performs, against Enland too.
10 Sep 2006, 13:37 pm
Aplon will eventually prove all his detractors wrong just as Paulse did. The only difference is Aplon is even better than paulse was when he started.For one he is fearless and has not yet missed a tackle all season.Remember paulse became a legend and so will aplon!
10 Sep 2006, 13:47 pm
Twak.
JP played well. Sure, nothing spectacular, but well.
Maybe Aplon will prove his detractors wrong. Maybe he won’t. As for now, JP is good enough.
10 Sep 2006, 13:57 pm
73# I agree Jp is nothing spectacular.
However Aplon is!
10 Sep 2006, 13:58 pm
Clever. I thought we left those jokes in primary school.
10 Sep 2006, 14:35 pm
akes1,
Wilkinson was just as fearless and where is he now?
Fucked for good.
10 Sep 2006, 16:35 pm
Akes,lets see how Aplon goes at Super 14 level before you starting making silly comments (Post 74).
10 Sep 2006, 16:36 pm
I believe aplon could be a bok great but i dont think he deserves to be selected after one decent cc lets see how he does in next years s14 first i think JP has consistently proven himself over the last year and deserves his starting spot. I am concerned though he is only 20 we need to remember that the sa public and press arent as forgiving of youngsters particularly ones like jp as perhaps the nz and aus press are so jake needs to be careful
10 Sep 2006, 16:55 pm
What game did you watch Andrew? Nothing special… yet.
10 Sep 2006, 18:36 pm
AAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWW Man, I can’t stand another Cape Cruisade! Aplon for Olympic gold & to replace Steven Hawkins as the worlds most intellegent man…
Thougt you capies would have learnt from your Luke mistake, he is not the controller of whether the sun rises or sets.
FDP has been good this 3N, but kicks far too much, again he is being judged after a good try & a good game. We all know Ruan is the future, as is JP.
Can’t believe some of you one eyed fools are slating him after his first performance. So he made 2 mistakes (can’t believe you sad people are counting them). I was unaware everyone had to have a perfect game for them to acceptable, I notice none of the Bulle are saying that JDV, is **** because he did not have a perfect game, likewise the WP supporters are not saying Oliver is useless, because he does not have enough speed.
You are so sad, one eyed will never win you anything!
10 Sep 2006, 18:37 pm
The 33 players that should go to the world cup in France are.
15. JP Pietersen/Gio Aplon
14. Bryan Habana/Breyton Paulse
13. Jaque Fourie/ Waylon Murray
12. Jean de Villiers/ Brad Barret
11. Tonderia Chavanga/Luis Ludic
10. Andre Pretorius/Butch James
9. Ricky Januarie/Ruaan Pienaar/Fourie du Preez
8. Pierre Spies/Joe van Niekerk
7. Juan Smith/AJ Venter
6. Schalk Burger/Luke Watson/Kabamba Floors
5. Victor Matfield/Ross Skeate
4. Bakkies Botha/Andries Bekker
3. BJ Botha/Cobus Visagie
2. John Smit/Chilliboy Ralepele/Schalk Brits
1. Os du Randt/Guthro Steenkamp
10 Sep 2006, 18:39 pm
Hope JP is not another Conrad Jantjes!!!!
I did not see the same game as most of SA yesterday! He was involved in plenty in the game but absolutely nothing above average. O sorry he was big. Bla Bla Bla.
If we lost he would have been castigated as a greenhorn and we would had to go back to square one.
Anyhow what were the options:
1. Johan Roets (sorry white)
2. Bevin Fortuin (wrong hairstyle and comes from and plays for a lesser province)
3. Brent Russel (sorry small and tackles only slightly better than Paulse)
4. Gio Aplon (just too talented for somebody so small, wouldn’t fit in the team photo)
So you see the best option was JP. Well done selectors and Joke.
11 Sep 2006, 08:22 am
JP and Akona share the same lack of speed problem.To make matters worse he can’t kick, he can’t catch.
The difference between Aplon and Pietersen in terms of experience is so marginal there is no sound reason not to give Aplon a go on the EOYT. Real pace can not be coached, look at Olivier on Saturday. Whilst solid he was not spectacular and Habana would have scored after the Spies break.
Jake White is less of a problem than one eyed provincialism as displayed by especially the people from flat mountain.
11 Sep 2006, 08:57 am
Before i started coming onto Keo.co.za i thought the Bulls Supporters were the stupidest & most unilateral thinkers in modern day rugby, People like Cape Thug are quickly changing my perceptions! It is now official, WP Supporters are retarded & Dont know ****
11 Sep 2006, 09:10 am
I thought JP hacked.
May be the best of a bad bunch/we are just used to seeing really bad full backs.
11 Sep 2006, 09:12 am
Andrew , if Jp’s performance was stylish, you must like kitch.
The guy can’t kick , he ‘s worse than Percy under the high ball and his positional play was totally non excistant. Apart from that he was excellent.
In fairness to Jp , like Spies was no where in his first test, I will give him a nother chance
11 Sep 2006, 09:12 am
I don’t think JP played well at all.
That was clearly the worst game of any 15 for SA this year..
Yes Percy made more mistakes in some games, but he was at least in the right position to be able to make mistakes.
This game was the 3N game where the most kicks were made and JP fielded 2 and just made it back in time to dive on a 3rd whilst being caught from behind quite comfortably in a side who was without there two fastest guys.
If it was not for Du Preez and Wannenberg being all over the field to field the balls at the back, and even Olivier fielded more balls than him.
11 Sep 2006, 09:13 am
And him being out of position was not due to him being on attack as he ran with the ball twice and hacked it down the field so far that even Asaffa Powell wouldn’t have been able to apply pressure….he was lucky the Ausies were retarded at that moment and did not allow the ball to run over the dead ball line and won a scrum 50 meters in field…but then again kicking the ball was the better option…
JP was at best pedestrian, only being there twice to take a pass from the Olivier/du Preez field of the ball…..
He also should have passed to Spies in one move….luckily for Paulse’s agility to stretch over and score a few minutes later…..
11 Sep 2006, 09:16 am
He was also tackled back the one time he took the ball up…..
I know I did predict that he would do badly…..but it was his first test…..that’s about the only thing one can say that sound a bit in his favour…a vague positive…
11 Sep 2006, 09:19 am
The Bill if you understand as much as you pretend you will know that FdP kicked , cause Jake told him so, judge Jake then not FdP
Ruan would have been instructed to kick also, remember the wc is in the Northern hem. where kicking plays a big part of the game.
p
11 Sep 2006, 09:21 am
Paulse plaed well Andrew not JP
11 Sep 2006, 10:43 am
****, please don’t generalize. As there is 1 or 2 “slow and backwards” BB supporters so there is 1 or 2 “slow and backwards” WP supporters. As a WP supporter I respect and even agree with majority of the BB, Shark, Lions, Cheetah and WP view and opinions on this site. My 2 cents – JP did well for his first game in a Springbok top. Yes he was out of position on 3 occasions (that I spotted) but give him time and with getting experience at the highest level, he could become a solid and dependable Bok fullback. ps. I was very impressed with Paulses defense!
11 Sep 2006, 15:40 pm
yup :greenman:
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