Sharks battered in Bloem
7 Oct 2006
The Vodacom Cheetahs beat the Sharks 30-14 in Bloemfontein on Saturday to ensure a home Absa Currie Cup final against the Bulls.
Free State led 24-0 after 30 minutes, and although the Sharks fought their way back into the game through two tries, the result was never in doubt.
Midweek predictions of a dour forward battle couldn’t have been further off the mark as both teams sought to play attacking rugby.
The mind games started pre-match as Dick Muir made six changes to the team he had announced on Thursday. Francois Steyn shifted to fullback to accommodate Butch James at flyhalf, meaning Brent Russell was dropped to the reserve bench as JP Pietersen slotted in on the wing. In the pack, Johan Ackermann, Skipper Badenhorst and Keegan Daniel all started.
The plan backfired spectacularly as the new combinations failed to match the intensity with which the home side began the match.
The Cheetahs could have scored as early as the sixth minute when star wing Phillip Burger broke the defensive line and offloaded to Kabamba Floors. However, he failed to hear the call of the support runner on his inside and the move petered out.
They didn’t have to wait much longer after that to open the scoring, though.
A centrefield scrum, inside the Sharks’ 22, saw the Cheetahs get a strong right shoulder. Willem de Waal collected the ball flat and swung a long cut-out pass to Gavin Passens who stepped inside Odwa Ndungane to score. De Waal’s conversion and a subsequent penalty sent the Cheetahs into a commanding 13-0 lead after 14 minutes.
The game was marred by niggle between the players and when Johan Ackermann was sin-binned in the 15th minute for punching, the Cheetahs capitalised.
They pressured the Sharks with a series of backline forays, one of which resulted in the TMO turning down the claim for a try.
That seemed to spur on the hosts and it was from yet another centrefield scrum that they scored their second try. Joint Man of the Match Bevin Fortuin ran a fantastic line and received an inside switch off his pivot. Great support play from Ryno van der Merwe saw the eighthman cross for his ninth try of the season.
Muir responded with a series of personnel changes, as Russell, Bismarck du Plessis and Deon Carstens were sent on in an attempt to pull the Sharks back into the match. The Cheetahs though compounded their misery with their third try on the match, with Floors (the other Man of the Match) the catalyst.
Seemingly aimless backline play finally bore fruit when De Waal timed his pass perfectly to put Floors into space. The former Sevens star drew a defender and dished the pass out to Passens who out sprinted Pietersen to double his try tally. De Waal’s successful conversion meant the Durban-based side were under serious pressure.
But they are known to be a resilient team and launched a comeback by scoring tries either side of the break.
Russell sparked life into a unimaginative backline, and he was central to a 38th minute try, when he doubled around to collect a sublime no-look pass from Waylon Murray, drew Fortuin and passed for Pietersen to score. Ruan Pienaar converted from the right hand touchline.
The Sharks produced a sustained period of pressure and 12 minutes after the break they made it 27-14, when Du Plessis emerged from a rolling maul, following a 5m line-out, to score.
But a series of handling errors, the most notable coming from Jacques Botes who knocked on after Russell had seared down the left touchline and put him into a certain try scoring position, denied the visitors the chance of a memorable comeback.
Ultimately, Meyer Bosman broke their resistance with a 43m penalty, adding to De Waal’s earlier effort, to open the gap to 16 points and send them into the Absa Currie Cup final.
Cheetahs - Tries: Gavin Passens (2), Ryno van der Merwe. Conversions: Willem de Waal (3). Penalties: De Waal (2), Meyer Bosman.
Sharks - Tries: JP Pietersen, Bismarck du Plessis. Conversion: Ruan Pienaar.
By Ryan Vrede
374 Comments
7 Oct 2006, 15:29 pm
I might turn cheetah supporter today if WP doesn’t make it!!
7 Oct 2006, 15:30 pm
Naai Man, Sharks to do it!
7 Oct 2006, 16:09 pm
Two bloody good sides, fairly evenly matched, with Cheetahs looking slightly stronger, as well as having the home field advantage, just hope an upset is on the cards! on a side note, great to see Russel starting, I think he’s the most under-utilised player in SA rugby.
7 Oct 2006, 16:12 pm
Possible to watch the game on the WEB/ i.net ???
Keen Cheetah supporter in the Middle East.
7 Oct 2006, 16:16 pm
My province (WP)is out of the competition, they won’t be able to catch the score of Bull****, how disappointing !!!
So I will be putting my money at Cheetahs to win, not that I’m turn my back on another coastal team (Sharks) but due to the fact that the Sharks won’t be able to beat the Bulls in Pretoria in the Final, however, the Cheetahs will definitely beat the Bulls in Free State.
Its time the Bulls play the final outside Pretoria and see if they have the balls.
Gooooo the Cheetahs, Cheetahs
I can’t help it, I hate the Blue Bulls with passion.
7 Oct 2006, 16:20 pm
Go Sharkies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
7 Oct 2006, 16:21 pm
Which one of these two teams wants to loose to the Bulls next week?
7 Oct 2006, 16:23 pm
desertnomad, you can listen to the game on kuduclub, but haven’t found anywhere to watch it, let me know if you have better luck.
7 Oct 2006, 16:24 pm
C’mon SHARKS!
7 Oct 2006, 16:25 pm
#7, that’s what endears the Bulls fans to everyone else: their graciousness in victory.
7 Oct 2006, 16:30 pm
Lekker Rev, vat hulle. Maar die Bulle speel met 16 man as ek so na Spies luister.
7 Oct 2006, 16:31 pm
the question is who would the bulls prefer to play????
7 Oct 2006, 16:32 pm
Where are the Cheetahs and Sharks supporters?
7 Oct 2006, 16:33 pm
here mate, finger nails already gone can’t waite anymore Sharks to win by 4
7 Oct 2006, 16:42 pm
hope you’re right spears, not sure what to expect, but hope the sharks can take this one
7 Oct 2006, 16:44 pm
5# Rugbinho
You sound really pssed off! Makes two of us.
I have many Shark friends and I don’t like to turn on them, but as you say a Bftn final for the Bulls would be nice…….
Hello david
Heated debate about to start in Blue county, feel much nicer over here. Let’s take a seat.
7 Oct 2006, 16:49 pm
Go Sharks
7 Oct 2006, 16:50 pm
10# Rev Jim
You have a sweet way with words…you think those ‘thikskins’ will get your drift? They are more used to one syllable words, preferably starting with “f”.
So, don’t be too disappointed if you don’t get a pious response to your preachings.
(Dit is n moeilike gemeente daai!)
7 Oct 2006, 16:50 pm
Go Sharks if you can.
7 Oct 2006, 16:50 pm
How many matches has Floors been starting for? Any chance of him making the EOYT?
7 Oct 2006, 16:51 pm
Go Michael Schumaker tomorrow in Japan.
7 Oct 2006, 16:51 pm
Hello Jinxie
Alles OK bru? Ons wat dit maar in ons stride my bra, jy ken mos.
7 Oct 2006, 16:53 pm
pieterman, I pretty much know what to expect when conversing with the Bulls fans. Though are a couple a couple of decent ones about (somewhere).
7 Oct 2006, 16:54 pm
21# Jinx
I see he is 2nd on the grid, Alonso 5th.
I would probably be able to hear the roar from my balcony if I listened carefully, not far across the pond from here to Suzuka, Japan.
7 Oct 2006, 16:55 pm
GO SHARKS!! lets hope **** can cause a upset we really need it and even if we lose I think we gonna finish ahead of the cheatahs in the super 14
7 Oct 2006, 16:56 pm
Pieterman
More to life than rugby.
Until WP bring pure forward power into their resources they will struggle. Unless you have the best tight 5 in the land you don’t win trophies.
Today we needed Henning Van Aswegen, Robert Cockrell, Hempies Du Toit, Hennie Bekker and Div Visser. With Rob louw, Theuns Stofberg and Nick Mallett.
WP forwards don’t cut the mustard.Sad but true.
7 Oct 2006, 16:56 pm
Go Schumi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
7 Oct 2006, 16:57 pm
Have for years disliked WP for their in your face, totally biggoted, one eyed view of rugby but must say that the bulls have taken over the mantle this year. Then again, one good year in 10 is aboout as good as it gets for the Bulls.
The worse result for SA (as JW will use it to justify his selections – even though he has stated the CC ‘doesn’t count’) is for the Bulls to win the CC which would mean that we would have yet again a Bok team that can’t play away from home.
Don’t care who wins this one as long as no key players get injured and the winning team puts 50 past the Bulls in the final – it’s what they deserve.
A Bulls win is retrogressive to SA Rugby.
Cheetahs to win in Bloem
Sharks to win at Loftus (again) – in which case Naas to have a heart attack an be buried at sea.
7 Oct 2006, 16:57 pm
jinx what u gonna say bout raikkonen going to ferrari??
7 Oct 2006, 16:57 pm
Rev, yes I agree. Some good ones too, (here and there!
7 Oct 2006, 16:58 pm
Why does the crowd and atmosphere at Vodacom park seem far more civilised than Loftus?
Dumb question, I suppose.
7 Oct 2006, 17:00 pm
Jinxie
Yes, no mongrels my friend, WP forward pack play lacking a few Cliffie Etsebeths, ek se!
7 Oct 2006, 17:00 pm
Jason
Its cool. Ferrari need to replace Schumi. Kimmy will do well. He mat even smile a bit more. A Finnish sense of humour is no laughing matter.
7 Oct 2006, 17:01 pm
Piterman
Our kids are too nice.
7 Oct 2006, 17:03 pm
Ag Fok – Skipper & Butch. Frans Steyn is not as confidant off the bench. Can’t See Brent – is he on the field?
7 Oct 2006, 17:04 pm
David #31,
Because they are! As you say, dumb question!
My infrequent visits to Bloem have taught me that the people their know their rugby (WP take note) and are willing to give credit where credit is due. Similar to the Welsh as opposed to Great Britain as a whole.
7 Oct 2006, 17:04 pm
OCO,
hate to state the obvious mate, but unfortunately if Cheetahs win in Bloem, Sharks won’t be playing at Loftus
7 Oct 2006, 17:05 pm
No Brent. I take it its official he’s off to WP then.
7 Oct 2006, 17:05 pm
JP at 11, Steyn at 15 & Butch at 10. Well, there were rumours earlier this week…
7 Oct 2006, 17:06 pm
Ad,
You read me wrong. Cheetahs in to win in Bloem and Sharks at Loftmus – depending on which team wins.
7 Oct 2006, 17:08 pm
sure jinx!! he is my fav driver
7 Oct 2006, 17:08 pm
So nowhere in interland is it possible to get engelse commentary on this game…?
7 Oct 2006, 17:09 pm
Oh boy, I think its going to be a LONG day in the office for the Sharks…
7 Oct 2006, 17:10 pm
Keegan Daniel also in for Jacques Botes…
7 Oct 2006, 17:10 pm
So 6 changes in total by ****. Surprisingly none by Rassie…
7 Oct 2006, 17:11 pm
Try Passens…
7 Oct 2006, 17:11 pm
Poor tackle by Steyn
7 Oct 2006, 17:13 pm
Do you say Passens instead of passions when you haven’t got your teeth in?
Got a lot of Passens. Passens for life.
Go Schumi!!!!!!!!!!!
7 Oct 2006, 17:15 pm
WHAT!!!?? That wasn’t a penalty, Fortuin!! Sheesh, the Sharks defense is bit shaky…
7 Oct 2006, 17:16 pm
The Staat is hot!!! Nice atmosphere, none of that childish “Liefling” bullshit.
7 Oct 2006, 17:16 pm
ANOTHER penalty – the count must be about 5-0 against the Sharks…
7 Oct 2006, 17:16 pm
Sounds like Fortuin is backing Fortuin? One way blowing.
7 Oct 2006, 17:16 pm
Nepotism.
7 Oct 2006, 17:17 pm
Howzit Quinn
7 Oct 2006, 17:17 pm
# 52
Lol
7 Oct 2006, 17:18 pm
Enjoyable heh David, no nonsense rugby.
7 Oct 2006, 17:19 pm
as die vrystaat so aanhou, gan dit ‘n lang middag wees vir die guppies!
Go Cheetahs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
7 Oct 2006, 17:20 pm
Pieterman
Yes, good direct open rugby from FS.
7 Oct 2006, 17:22 pm
Ugh, WHY?????!!!!
This is frustrating. Why are Bismarck & Botes not playing? Skipper is cr!p! Expecting a lot of lost line-outs, plus missed tackles, plus penalties…
7 Oct 2006, 17:22 pm
Kees Lensing…what a waste of R1.2million…
7 Oct 2006, 17:22 pm
Is the score still 0 – 0, or have the keo team fucked off after the last game?
7 Oct 2006, 17:23 pm
kees k@k af!
I love it!!!!!!!!!
7 Oct 2006, 17:23 pm
Oh woe, my apologies.
7 Oct 2006, 17:24 pm
Fortuin winning the match. Guess which one?
7 Oct 2006, 17:24 pm
ryan dis al lakal 10-0!
kom by!!!!!!!!!
7 Oct 2006, 17:24 pm
They’ve gone to Camp David for some post match interviews with the Bulls fans Jim.
7 Oct 2006, 17:26 pm
ollie en jannie jol ‘n groot game!
7 Oct 2006, 17:31 pm
Fortuin as ref, Tappe as adjudicator, two dutchen linesmen. Sharks are in for a hiding………
7 Oct 2006, 17:31 pm
If only WP could play proper rugby like these Cheetahs. This is rugby. Top drawer.
7 Oct 2006, 17:31 pm
hahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!
7 Oct 2006, 17:31 pm
David
David, bly jy geniet die atmosfeer by Vodacom Park . Dalk moet jy rugby los en volgende jaar KKNK toe gaan. Daar is geen nare Bulle om jyou middag te bederf nie. Almal speel goed en niemand verloor nie. Ek kan net dink hoe ontstellend Loftus op jou brose gemoed moet inwerk.
O sorry, I forgot you are English. I recommed that you rather goes the the National Arts Festival in Grahamstown. Everybody plays/acts well and nobody loses. I really think Bolla should be in the pantomime. With Charleen Surtee-Richards perhaps.
7 Oct 2006, 17:31 pm
68
Yup
Why is it that FS shoving is interpreted as part & parcel of the game, but any Sharks shoving is penalised…. Just wondering.
7 Oct 2006, 17:33 pm
**** Muir se gerondvokkery met spankeuses het hom ingehaal. Pleks dat hy sy mind opmaak.
7 Oct 2006, 17:33 pm
I’m amazed JC Fortuin saw that forward pass…
7 Oct 2006, 17:34 pm
QS,
Guess he called wrong. Must be the first ‘advantage’ for the Sharks he’s played?
7 Oct 2006, 17:35 pm
72
Read “dangerous tackle” together with shoving…
Bloody Linton Manuels. He was grinning like the Cheshire Cat when he went up to Fortuin.
7 Oct 2006, 17:37 pm
Requies a hell of a lot of concentration to tell what’s going on listening to RSG.
7 Oct 2006, 17:37 pm
If the Cheetahs can play like this against the Bulls, they’ll avenge that last defeat…
7 Oct 2006, 17:38 pm
As I said in a previous post, let’s hope that the ref doesn’t take side. Call it premonition…..
7 Oct 2006, 17:39 pm
I think our only hope is for Rassie to start holding up the wrong coloured cards…
7 Oct 2006, 17:41 pm
Cheetahs is awesome!!!!! Bulls sal nie daardie span stop nie.
7 Oct 2006, 17:41 pm
David
Post match interviews at the “Camp”, classic bru!
7 Oct 2006, 17:41 pm
“shlubaa bleeba blah….gggggg….. en ….ggggg. gaaa…ghhhhhhh!……en nou is dit…..gggghhhh…..sss………
en dis magnifika spel deur die Cheetahs…”
Still left wondering what went on…
7 Oct 2006, 17:42 pm
Thanks very much Sharks!
I think **** needs to patch up our defense & work on DISCIPLINE in the off-season. Maybe then we can compete.
Oh, & **** – FFS please stop “neuking around” with the team whilst playing your “mind games”.
I need a shot of something strong.
7 Oct 2006, 17:42 pm
Where is campo? …
Boring rugby?…
7 Oct 2006, 17:42 pm
Catfish
Hier gaan daai Blou Bulle bars, hierdie Vrystaters vattie kakkie!!!
7 Oct 2006, 17:43 pm
Bismarck, Russell & Carstens on.
Why the hell **** didn’t start with these guys, I really don’t know
7 Oct 2006, 17:43 pm
Muir must be Kicking himself for changing his original starting 15!
7 Oct 2006, 17:45 pm
Pieterman
Lanklaas so ‘n eensydige wedstryd gesien. Daai vrystaters hardloop hulle stukkend. Vories vermossel hulle. Ollie, Ryno en Floors vooraan.
7 Oct 2006, 17:45 pm
JC Fortuin is a doos.
Loves the sound of his voice.
7 Oct 2006, 17:47 pm
Which team would guarantee Russell a game? Bit of a disgrace that he can’t make a provincial side.
7 Oct 2006, 17:47 pm
Russell should have scored.
7 Oct 2006, 17:47 pm
Philip Burger also excelent.
Onesided afair.
7 Oct 2006, 17:47 pm
91
Lions perhaps.
7 Oct 2006, 17:48 pm
Sounds like Russell IS playing though…
Deurmekaar, ek is, ek se.
7 Oct 2006, 17:48 pm
Catfish
Dis presies wat Jinx van praat.
WP voorspelers nie op hierdie vlak nie.
Wat dink jy sal hierdie pak teen die Bulle doen, sal hulle staan? Indien wel, dan kak die Bul volgende Saterdag.
7 Oct 2006, 17:48 pm
Quinnyshark, what about the Cheaters?
7 Oct 2006, 17:49 pm
How are Kabamba and Bevan Playing????
7 Oct 2006, 17:49 pm
You guys remember **** Best (former English coach & long-time Bath boss). He was saying on Sky that Burger is his stand-out player from the CC & should definitely be on the EOYT. He reckons he’ll make a huge diff in the Bok team, with the lines he runs & raw speed.
7 Oct 2006, 17:49 pm
Russel = Substitute
7 Oct 2006, 17:49 pm
Nothing going the Sharks way , what do you guys think of the ref?
7 Oct 2006, 17:50 pm
Catfish, was it an injury forced substituion?
7 Oct 2006, 17:50 pm
Floors is as good as always.
7 Oct 2006, 17:51 pm
Superbul,
ref must have found a brick in his loaf of bread….
7 Oct 2006, 17:51 pm
97
Playing out of their skin. Kabamba is playing very well, but Ryno vd Merwe EVEN better. Bevan ok.
Russell cam off the bench. This is Sharks starting backline:
15 – Steyn
14 – Ndungane
13 – Murray
12 – Barrit
11 – Pietersen
10 – James (Russell)
9 – Pienaar
When James came off, Russell went to wing, JP fullback & Steyn 10.
7 Oct 2006, 17:51 pm
try for jp
7 Oct 2006, 17:51 pm
Butch = tactical substitution
7 Oct 2006, 17:52 pm
must say…sharks involved in a lot of off-the-ball stuff.
7 Oct 2006, 17:52 pm
sharks still in shallow water though
7 Oct 2006, 17:53 pm
Seems like the Sharks already gave up hope. Their trying to win the fight now.
7 Oct 2006, 17:53 pm
That could easily be the Sharks’s consolation try.
I hope they get a tonguelashing.
7 Oct 2006, 17:53 pm
Brents moment of instinctive skill.
7 Oct 2006, 17:53 pm
Dis wat ek ook mos so Kaballas!!!
7 Oct 2006, 17:54 pm
Quinnyshark, so how long was james on for? Was he just playing shite, or was it some ridiclous posturing and tomfoolery by ****?
7 Oct 2006, 17:55 pm
daars n lelike ding wat opwys daar in parys!
7 Oct 2006, 17:55 pm
Quinny
Bevan has made a huge impact whenever he’s come into the line.
JP seems to have a nasty childish streak in him.
7 Oct 2006, 17:57 pm
Pieterman, ou seun, ‘n Span speel maar so goed soos wat die ander span hom toelaat om te speel. Bloemfontein is ‘n begraafplaas vir enige span maar hierdie Bulle kan dalk net skandes kom maak.
Jammer om te sien jy het teen ons gedraai maar elke dierjie het sy plesiertjie. Dit gaan ‘n moerse final wees.
Ek dink egter nog steeds die Haaie kan dalk in die tweede helfte mal raak, met goeie of slegte gevolge.
7 Oct 2006, 17:57 pm
Bevan has not been the best back though. Meyer/Passens are playing very well. Claassens too.
114
James was playing ok – considering Sharks weren’t getting any ball. He held a possible Cheetahs try up. Looks like the substition was ****’s tweaking.
7 Oct 2006, 17:58 pm
Rev
The Cheetahs just ran through him for their last try. Kankowski punched Ryno when he was over the line and on the floor. This isn’t the Sharks I’d hoped to see.
7 Oct 2006, 17:59 pm
Cheetahs playing well.
Sharks better with mediocre Butch off the field.
I watch this game and think of how WP in the previous game thought that they could win the CC by playing touch rugby.
7 Oct 2006, 18:00 pm
Bevan for tour to Ireland and England.
7 Oct 2006, 18:01 pm
David,
“Cheetahs just ran through him for their last try”
James, you mean?
“This isn’t the Sharks I’d hoped to see.”
Straeuli been giving the team talks?
7 Oct 2006, 18:01 pm
I have nothing to loose whoever wins but so funny decisions by the officials, that kick by Steyn , he didnt have the right to go to TV ref, if he gave sharks the kick over wouldnt that be more fair. He doesnt blow fair, i think, anyway who cares.
The Bulls game was blown by a much better ref, just sad next sat we have that moron blowing the final
7 Oct 2006, 18:02 pm
bok tjops, jy ‘n vrystaat man?
7 Oct 2006, 18:03 pm
superbul
see 90
By going to the tv ref, all the attention is on him…
7 Oct 2006, 18:04 pm
Have Sharks ever won with a coloured Ref? Just asking!
7 Oct 2006, 18:04 pm
117# Lang Giel
Wat meen jy gedraai? Ek is WP, of het jy vergeet?
Ek se as die Bulle hierdie ouens moet speel soos wat Cheetahs vanaand spel, dan gaan die Bulle bars.
Stem jy?
7 Oct 2006, 18:04 pm
Of course Kaballas!!
7 Oct 2006, 18:05 pm
Rev
yeah, they ran through James.
Jinx, you’re right about WP. The’ve been flat footed on attack for a while now. It was even evident against Griquas.
7 Oct 2006, 18:06 pm
Also when the ref told Pieterson dont target nr 14, that is his direct opponent so he must not do his job
7 Oct 2006, 18:07 pm
En verder Lang Giel, ek het beter verwag van Sharks, gehoop hulle kan Cheetahs n go gee.
Ek het niks teen Sharkies nie, maar ek dink Rassie se span is die real deal vanjaar.
7 Oct 2006, 18:07 pm
Daar is ‘n verskil tussen target en tackle SuperBul
7 Oct 2006, 18:07 pm
Nee wat tjops… ons het hulle!!!!Kannie sien dat ons hier kan optos nie!
7 Oct 2006, 18:09 pm
Shark friends we know this feeling the ref hates everything black toninght, you are going to kak until the last 10 min when its too late , then he will blow for you and his concience.
But please tire these Cheetahs we want them moeg
7 Oct 2006, 18:09 pm
David
Luke does too much all over and thus breaks up the miniscule structure there is in the already weak WP pack.
It becomes touch rugby.
7 Oct 2006, 18:10 pm
Superbull
The ref was talking about late tackles. Something a Bulls supporter considers an acceptable tactic.
7 Oct 2006, 18:10 pm
It’s amazing how teams that do well in SA can’t compete overseas. Question of reffing?
7 Oct 2006, 18:11 pm
ja nee super…groot verskil…
tackle-so hard soos jy wil is wettig.
target- van die bal af/hoog ens is onwettig!
7 Oct 2006, 18:12 pm
137, a question of coaching.
7 Oct 2006, 18:12 pm
Penalty again Freestate. Wonder if Fortuin will learn that their is a limit to how mushc one can turn a blind eye to and how much one can afford the ‘favoured’ team.
7 Oct 2006, 18:13 pm
That decision was very unlucky.
Flip, does JC ever shut his mouth?
7 Oct 2006, 18:13 pm
Jinx
That’s why I’d prefer to have someone like Boome captain the Stormers and force Watson to concentrate on his playing role.
7 Oct 2006, 18:14 pm
What a dissapointment to have mediocre refs involved with important semi-finals. JC Fortuin likes his own voice. Tappe never liked Sharks. Lynton Manual the notorious “blind” t.m.o. referee who made that spectacular blunder earlier in the season.
7 Oct 2006, 18:14 pm
# 130,
No it’s a matter of how much one can get away with at home and how much one can’t get away with with competent refs.
Boks suffer from the same malaise.
7 Oct 2006, 18:14 pm
Jinx
WP played shortened lineouts in the 2nd half, to accomodate Luke in the backline. He seriously should consider changing position. Maybe as inside centre, Jake will select him?
7 Oct 2006, 18:17 pm
Hel, maar die ref lawaai hier oor my head phones, aanmekaar.
7 Oct 2006, 18:19 pm
The Voice of JC even broadcasts over the screaming Cheetahs fans. Is he ever quiet?
7 Oct 2006, 18:20 pm
Think the Sharks should consider only playing S14 and give up on the CC. As long as the Boer War is still fresh in everyone’s memory they don’t stand a hope in hell of winning anything again in SA.
7 Oct 2006, 18:21 pm
Ek sien Burger kort een drie om Chris Badenhorst se rekord te ewewnaar.
**** hierdie ref! Ek **** hom duidelik se “as jy weer so n pass gee, dan gee ek jou n geelkaart”!
Van wanneer af kry mens n geelkaart vir dit?
7 Oct 2006, 18:22 pm
148
No, I think **** should stop trying to play mind games. He’s not actually all that good at it.
And start fining his players for continuously being so ill-disciplined (Daniels, Ackermann). And maybe consider dropping JP so that he catches a wake-up…
7 Oct 2006, 18:22 pm
149# Aan Meyer Bosman vir n vorentoe aangee.
7 Oct 2006, 18:23 pm
“as jy weer so n pass gee, dan gee ek jou n geelkaartâ€
What, did he gob on it before flinging it into an opposition player’s face?
7 Oct 2006, 18:25 pm
David, I get the impression you are harvesting a lot of sour grapes there. I presume it’s not going to be a good year for he wine industry.
PS How many late tackles do you remember that could have swung the match in the favour of Province?
7 Oct 2006, 18:25 pm
Wow , next time i will invite DJ Rassie to come dj for me at a party. Think his troat is going to be sore tomorrow morning
7 Oct 2006, 18:28 pm
QS,
Nope, rugby is renowned as the game that is most influenced by the Ref. All other sports have post mortems on the ref’s performance but not rugby. Their is just so much cheating that goes on that Rugby can never be taken as a serious sport.
7 Oct 2006, 18:29 pm
Lang Giel
I wasn’t talking about the WP/Bulls semi which the Bulls deserved to win. I was refering to the Bulls penchant for targeting the man regardless.
7 Oct 2006, 18:29 pm
Rassie is taking a big chance sitting there on the roof. What if lightening strikes him? His color signals to indicate which game plan should be used looks interesting, provided there are no color blind players in his squad.
7 Oct 2006, 18:31 pm
ek hoop nie rassie het te gou begin subs maak nie!
7 Oct 2006, 18:32 pm
Hier kom die Sharks!
7 Oct 2006, 18:35 pm
kayzetan
If he was struck I wonder how the team would interpret the colours!
7 Oct 2006, 18:35 pm
OCO
Bullshit……….
7 Oct 2006, 18:36 pm
Ek sou like as Gaffie weer op Losskakel kon speel. Dis waar hy naam gekry het. Maar goeie breek van Oelschig daar…
7 Oct 2006, 18:38 pm
JC is literally trying to conduct the game.
7 Oct 2006, 18:41 pm
f*ck this kak im going home!!
7 Oct 2006, 18:47 pm
Cheetahs slegs 6 punte in tweede helfte…nie goed genoeg om die Bulle met so n tempo te wen nie.
7 Oct 2006, 18:47 pm
QC,
Very well put but totally wrong. Rugby is ‘in the eye of the beholder’ not rules. Seen enough of it over the years.
7 Oct 2006, 18:51 pm
Second half score 14-6 to Sharks.
7 Oct 2006, 18:52 pm
So anyway, how about a match summary? Did the Cheetahs play good, running rugby, or did the Sharks just lose the plot ala Straueli/Krige era Boks and try to fight their way to defeat?
7 Oct 2006, 18:53 pm
Congratulations to the Cheetahs. The better team definitely won on the day. I would however be a little concerned about their second half performance – I don’t believe they took their off the pedal. But if they can play like the first half the full 80 min next week it will be very close. Looking forward to an absolute cracker!
7 Oct 2006, 18:54 pm
JW, backed by SARFU, will be proved correct, even though the Boks have been shown wrong, in next weeks final. You can safely bet you house on the Bulls to win. Come S14 times, expect the Bulls and Chhetahs to be the lowest of the SA teams.
7 Oct 2006, 18:54 pm
heeeeeh haaaah!
yes, warren the cheetahs are very predictable; how was the view from the back of the posts?
campo
put it in your pipe and smoke it! and it gives me great pleasure to say this to you: up yours!!
7 Oct 2006, 18:54 pm
Cheetahs play like this and the CC goes to Bulls, the Sharks ran at you one by one the whole game , they never realy mauled as a team the Bulls will murder you
7 Oct 2006, 18:54 pm
Cheetahs will win the final. Too much flair in the backs AND they have the forwards to match the bulls.
Cheers Im out of here.
7 Oct 2006, 18:55 pm
oco
on what do you base your comments? on the fact that the sharks wasn’t even close to matching the cheetahs? ????
7 Oct 2006, 18:56 pm
pieterman
second half score: 7-6
7 Oct 2006, 18:56 pm
172# superBul
Good comment.
7 Oct 2006, 18:56 pm
Very disappointed as a Sharks supporter. They played ill-disciplined, rudderless rugby. I also wonder whether it was a tactic of Rassie’s to instruct his players to provoke the Sharks players, given their short fuse….? If so – a masterstroke of genius…it certainly worked! No excuse for the Sharks poor discipline though. They really do need to address that urgently.
7 Oct 2006, 18:56 pm
pieterman 2de helfte telling was 7-6!
Word wakker!
En Cheetahs het nie nodig gehad om meer expansive te speel in die 2de helfte nie! Daarom rassie se blou lig/bord… Nie nodig om jou hele game weg te gee voor die final nie!!!!!
7 Oct 2006, 18:56 pm
Why sal ons nou worry, het laas naweek 19 punte aangeteken teen die Bulls. Net wat nodig was. En wat het laas jaar gebeur in die 2de helfte? Ek is seker ek hoef jou nie te herinner nie ne Pieterman??
7 Oct 2006, 18:57 pm
Nooit vit Bavin gerate nie , maar die ou het class. Hy gaan ‘n goeie fullback word. Ja nee hy het dit in hom ! wie stem saam
7 Oct 2006, 18:58 pm
Jislaaik Kaballas, lyk my ons moet dit dan vir die manne uitspel. Common sense sou ek reken…
7 Oct 2006, 19:00 pm
oco… jy is nou so suur soos hulle kom!!!
verloor soos ‘n man…
of gaan k@k…
jou keuse?
7 Oct 2006, 19:00 pm
I just wish someone will give Philip Burger a real “jy sien net snot spat”-tackle. That someone will be a bigger hero than Jannie Els was when he tackled Naas.
7 Oct 2006, 19:00 pm
175# GCC
Did I miss something? Oh right, they did score just before the horn.
But I expected the State to keep score ticking in the second half. At least a Burger try.
7 Oct 2006, 19:01 pm
Definitely are a number of Cheetahs players who deserve a Bok call-up:
Fortuin, Burger, Kabamba, Pieterse & Du Plessis. Such a pity Meyer is ineligible. As for the Sharks players; JP, & Botes’ reputations have taken a dent over the past few games. Still rate Bismarck though.
7 Oct 2006, 19:03 pm
ja nee bok tjops… nou moet ons vir bleddie almal se part dink?
Cheers ou maat ek is oppad.
Het ‘n charity bal aan vanaand.
Sal mar een dop op charity drink en die res op die States!!!!!!
7 Oct 2006, 19:03 pm
184.
Wait for next weekend, we won’t disappoint you!!
7 Oct 2006, 19:04 pm
Boktjops
So jy reken die ouens het bietje relax na halftyd? Ek vra, onthou ek sit oorsee en **** net die score oor die radio. Doelbewus, se jy.
Wel, as dit die geval is, dan speel ou Rassie dalk sy kaarte reg.
7 Oct 2006, 19:06 pm
Cheers Catfish.
7 Oct 2006, 19:06 pm
Almal is mal oor Rassie ek dink hy is n skelm ,ek sweer sy spelers het bloed sakkies in hul broeksakke wat hulle laat lyk of hulle bloei . Die dokter op die veld moet soms weier om die ouens af te laat gaan , daai bloed kan net afgevee word. Kyk mooi die spelers het nie eers n merkie waar daai bloed uitkom nie. Met al die bloed beserings aan sy voorrye moet die arme ouens aan die einde van die game lyk of hulle in n landmyn ontploffing was??????
7 Oct 2006, 19:09 pm
JP Pietersen is nowhere near Bevan. He is not Bok material. I wouldn’t play JP even at Villagers Club. Overrated lump of mediocrity.
7 Oct 2006, 19:11 pm
#190, sounds like you’re a wee bit scared of getting beaten next weekend.
7 Oct 2006, 19:12 pm
I agree Jinx. He should have been dropped long ago. He doesn’t deserve to be in the Bok team ahead of Bevin. I was thinking about it the other day – the thing is, JP wasn’t always this bad. He just hasn’t developed quite as promised last year. Although his attitude has…for the worse.
7 Oct 2006, 19:13 pm
Keegan Daniel is another who really needs to do something about his attitude. Another promising player, but has negative mark next to his game for the reason above.
7 Oct 2006, 19:13 pm
194
- read name instead of game.
7 Oct 2006, 19:16 pm
Where was B. Fortuin before the Cheetahs? I remember watching him play for some poxy little province and being impressed by him.
7 Oct 2006, 19:17 pm
196
SWD Eagles. Kabamba Floors too.
7 Oct 2006, 19:17 pm
congratulations free state! i was very disappointed with the sharks performance, free state were unlucky not to have an even bigger half time lead
7 Oct 2006, 19:21 pm
Hey KIR
Terrible wasn’t it. **** got it totally wrong, & the discipline was appalling. Cheetahs were the exact opposite of the Sharks – polished, determined, disciplined.
7 Oct 2006, 19:22 pm
Quinny
I don’t think Botes had such a bad game today.
The one thing the semis showed is that a lot of our youngsters need a couple of years in the S14 to really prove themselves and gain experience.
Both the Sharks and WP youngsters started to panick under pressure.
You’re right about JP esp. compared to Fortuin.
7 Oct 2006, 19:22 pm
Quinn # 194
I think young players get too hyped up in SA. Agree, Keegan Daniels has an atrocious attitude. We think that youthful aggro wins favour and shows a “main man” attitude… someone to be respected. Its all wrong.
I think David’s classic comment last night that Barrit wants to be the new Lem. But the Sharks are all lemmings anyway. I cried with laughter when I read that.
WP and Sharks are not good enough. Their mental game is weak and I think their pop star attitudes suck.
Give me the Ryno Van Der Merwe’s and Barend Pieterse’s anytime.
7 Oct 2006, 19:24 pm
Hello kir
Unfortunately I read the Sharks and WPs correctly this morning didn’t I?
Too much immaturity in both teams.
7 Oct 2006, 19:25 pm
quinny- i have no clue why russell didnt start, i also think that steyn is a great prospect for the future but he may be a little out of his dept at the moment. i think the ref blew a little to much against the sharks in the first half but to be fair our discipline was shocking and we would have lost anyway
7 Oct 2006, 19:26 pm
Ruan is badly off form , he didnt look sharp why didnt they try Mathie, was surprised.
**** realy made a mess with the player confidence by changing the team around or maybe he has reached his cieling
7 Oct 2006, 19:26 pm
yeah david at least all the sharks and province players will be a year older for the next currie cup! lol
7 Oct 2006, 19:28 pm
David, With six refs and adjudicators on duty, there is no way anybody can slip in an unlawful tackle. These incidents must be happening in your dreams. I suggest you consult a good psychologist before the start of the Super 14.
Finally, it is Rassie and Naka against Pote and Heyneke in the final . The Boerseuns have done it again!
7 Oct 2006, 19:29 pm
200 / 201
David, granted he wasn’t all that bad today, but he hasn’t played as well as he had earlier in the season (S14 included).
You & Jinx are both spot on with your comments re the hyped-up youngsters. They need to cut their teeth in the S14 first. Frans Steyn has been another youngster touted for Bok colours at the end of the year. Today he showed exactly why he shouldn’t be rushed into the green & gold.
I was thinking during the game that the Sharks could do with a number of hard, seasoned players – for games like this, they are invaluable. Even if they’re not the flashiest.
7 Oct 2006, 19:31 pm
Quinny
Kobus Van Der Merwe( Fester/Kojak) would make a good 7′s coach or a beach touch rugby coach.
WP have problems. Luke has taken over the playing pattern at WP and his own strengths are being watered down by his own lack of personal boundaries and his own lack of understanding of his limitations.
He is single handedly ******* up his own career. He has tipped over into “saviour” complex man and I think he once again showed that he does not captain and lead with true delegation of responsibilities. He is disempowering his players by trying to do too much on his own.
Hubris me thinks.
7 Oct 2006, 19:32 pm
203
Russell’s body language wasn’t the greatest when he came on. He had a couple of good runs, but didn’t look at his perkiest. Maybe it was the position the Sharks were in, Dicks tweaking or his probable (unfortunately) move.
Kees Lensing has been the biggest Sharks disappointment this season. He simply does not justify his price tag.
7 Oct 2006, 19:33 pm
Good hunting my Cheetah brothers … well done!
7 Oct 2006, 19:35 pm
SuperBul #204
Cracks are starting to show tactics wise. Agree…that ceiling might be giving him a sore neck and back.
7 Oct 2006, 19:37 pm
okes how can english justify their 4th place fifa world ranking? they never get past the quarters of any tournament and are currently 0-0 against macedonia
7 Oct 2006, 19:37 pm
208
Jinx, some WP fans will disagree with you re-Watson. They will say he was immense today – cause he was involved in every attacking move. But that’s the problem. Luke was practically sitting in the inside centre/flyhalf berth all evening, so that he could be the playmaker in every WP move. Tell me that it doesn’t have an affect on Olivier & Greeff. It certainly does on the WP lineout options. Shortened every time.
I watched him carefully today. “Great” in attack, but literally nowhere in defense – bar the odd-first time tackle. But he doesn’t follow up after that – yet Melck & Skeate never give-up.
7 Oct 2006, 19:39 pm
Quinny
I think I said this morning that AJ has been the glue for the Sharks.
They’ve come apart since he’s been out.
Province need someone like him to add mature stability as Jinx has intimated. Which is why I’d have Boome captain the side in the S14.
With regard to Jinx’s points I think Watson has already affected Diacks play at 8 by taking away the traditional 8 role for himself.
7 Oct 2006, 19:40 pm
i’m more interested in seeing the bok squad thats selected than watching the cc final
7 Oct 2006, 19:41 pm
212
Its almost as laughable as Crouch’s 10 goals in 12 games…against the same rubbish opposition. The pundits over here now reckon he’s “destined to be England’s most prolific goalscorer ever”. LoL. Earlier this week their was a newspaper headline where Crouch had vowed that he’d “show Rooney how to score”.
Incidentally, Italy dropped in the Fifa World Rankkings shortly after the World Cup…this was before the result of the WC had been factored-in!!!
7 Oct 2006, 19:42 pm
Quinny respect for you.
Taking the loss gracefully…
7 Oct 2006, 19:44 pm
Quinn # 213
Part of team work is trusting others to do their bit. Luke unfortunately due to all the hype and pressure from the media and himself wants to PROVE people wrong by becoming Superman. It ***** up the balance of a team when one player, especially the captain is slicing up his energy and placing it everywhere. He needs guidance to play more within himself and he will fly with excellence as he does have talent as a fetcher. He definitely has dropped down in his overall form towards the end of the season.
Is there anyone at WP to guide him? Fester clearly can’t.
7 Oct 2006, 19:45 pm
David, I agree with you regarding both Boome (for WP) & wrt the Sharks. Britz looks a brilliant bloke, but I think that’s perhaps his weakness. He’s too polite. Sharks needed a grizzled, hard-nosed captain out there today to weld that team & get them through the onslaught.
I don’t know how happy Luke would be playing under Boome (more because of the loss of power). I suspect, Boome was also one of those players who may have objected to Luke’s captaincy manner too.
7 Oct 2006, 19:45 pm
Now the match was not of the highest standard, mainly due to the Sharks not knowing what their best team is due to constant changes made by ****.
They have to learn from my Lions and my Cheetah brothers that winning is a habit and you do not break up a winning combination and play selections roulette just for the sake of rotation.
7 Oct 2006, 19:46 pm
Jinx
I don’t think Fester coaches that team any more… Luke does
7 Oct 2006, 19:47 pm
216- yeah i understand that in soccer upsets are more likely than in rugby ( can u imagine the all blacks losing to a side ranked 30th?) but england never show any international consistency, its as though the fifa officials marvel at the players in the english squad when making the rankings
7 Oct 2006, 19:48 pm
David # 214
100% true. Diack’s play has been strangled as Luke has become the ALL PLAYER MAN.
Someone needs to mentor him otherwise **** will hit the fan in the S14.
7 Oct 2006, 19:49 pm
Sharks were lucky to make the semis. They definitely went off the boil – the way the Lions ended the season, they would have been more worthy opponents for the Cheetahs.
It really pains me to say the above. But I think it also stems from the fact that I was pretty disgusted with the Sharks performance today.
Its probably fair that the 2 best teams are in the final. I would like to see the Cheetahs win – playing the same rugby they did in the first half today.
7 Oct 2006, 19:50 pm
Quinn #221
I’ve been told that by very informed people from WP. Its very sad. People close to the WP set up.
7 Oct 2006, 19:51 pm
223
Jinx, that perhaps the problem – WHO will mentor Luke. He seems to believe all the hype, so I don’t know if he’ll take constructive criticism from just anyone in the current WP coaching set-up.
7 Oct 2006, 19:51 pm
Guys I’m going to hit the road now.
Enjoy your evening and I hope Schumi wins in Japan tomorrow morning.
Adios…
7 Oct 2006, 19:52 pm
227
Ditto Jinx.
Gonna go out & take my mind off this afternoon!
later
7 Oct 2006, 19:54 pm
I am glad Cheetahs went through to the finals….rather them than Province. All the shark fans will be shouting for the Cheetahs in the finals.
7 Oct 2006, 19:55 pm
Scotland beat France 1 – 0 in European Championship qualifers.
7 Oct 2006, 19:59 pm
Jinx, Quinny
Cheers.And I hope Ferrari lose tomorrow. I have an aversion to the Italy/German axis.
7 Oct 2006, 20:04 pm
“All the shark fans will be shouting for the Cheetahs in the finals.”
All non-Cow fans will be shouting for the Cheetahs.
7 Oct 2006, 20:06 pm
Cheetah supporters, lets keep our mouths shut for this week and hopefully we can blow them next week.Don’t make same mistake as Sharks.Go Cheeetaaahhhsss!!!!!!!!!
7 Oct 2006, 20:15 pm
Call up has been made
EVERYONE IN SA THAT DOESNT WEAR BLUE
7 Oct 2006, 20:17 pm
Geluk aan die cheetahs. Dis lagwekkend om te sien dat al die sharks wat gedurende die week gal gebraak het oor die states nou skielik vir hulle ondersteun. Tipies.
7 Oct 2006, 20:18 pm
Call up has been made
EVERYONE IN SA THAT DOESNT WEAR BLUE
DOESNT WEAR HORNS
UNITE AGAINST THE BEASTS IN BLUE also called
THE BLUE BULLS
Please dont suport us we dont need you now , dont give us the kiss of death
7 Oct 2006, 20:21 pm
Die cheetahs soek ook nie tweedehandse ondersteuning nie, die bul en states supporters is die enigste wat by hulle spanne staan deur dik en dun.
7 Oct 2006, 20:22 pm
suidwes lyk my jy is n Cheetah
7 Oct 2006, 20:23 pm
superBul, ever heard of Millwall FC? There club slogan/chant is “No one likes us. We don’t care.”
Their fans are intellectually challenged anachronisms too.
7 Oct 2006, 20:25 pm
Suidwes bly is en bly n cheetah, maar sal lof gee waar dit toekom.
7 Oct 2006, 20:26 pm
235
Better than the Bulls – let the Cheetahs have their glory!
7 Oct 2006, 20:28 pm
237
Suidwes. My support for the Cheetahs is just for the final. Surely you understand that. I stand by my team through thick & thin – just was extremely disappointed with them today & give credit to the better team (Cheetahs). I’ll be back in black & white for the S14.
7 Oct 2006, 20:29 pm
Die sharks is in dieselfde posisie as die states 4 jaar terug, nog baie bouwerk om te doen. Sien uit om hulle oor so 2 jaar te sien, nog baie talent daar.
7 Oct 2006, 20:32 pm
242 – Trek net jou siel uit, almal sal tog iemand ondersteun sodra jou span uit is. Lees 243.
7 Oct 2006, 20:35 pm
“Trek net jou siel uit”
What does that mean?
7 Oct 2006, 20:36 pm
Just playing with you – trek jou siel uit.
7 Oct 2006, 20:39 pm
Suidwes
What I do like about the States is the fact that most of your players are a bunch of no-name, non-gloryseekers. Hendrik Meyer, man he caught my eye playing for the Pumas. What a good player. What a wily buy he was. Sharks could done with a player like him today – for that matter, also like Bevin, Barend, RYNO & Kabamba. I wrote-off Passens earlier this year, but he was better than our wingers.
7 Oct 2006, 20:40 pm
Aaah man, the wine is flowing fast tonight…
7 Oct 2006, 20:43 pm
Quinnyshark. Ek moet bieg dat Passens my verras het laat in die seisoen, en n beter keuse was as Fredericks, wat seker al pensioen trek by states. Ek dink egter Muir het n fout gemaak met sy span rondskommelings, soos die span gekies was, sou julle n beter kans gestaan het. Maar volgende week gaan n grote wees, dink ons het n kans. Gaan close wees.
7 Oct 2006, 20:44 pm
The Cheetah’s didn’t go off the boil so much as what they were disrupted, byinjuries.
I can understand the sharks dissapointment, but to blame the officials, and to play the race card is a bit to much of sour grapes.
The Cheetah’s played fast paced rugby, and the sharks were caught by surprise, and ill discipline cost them dearly. Too mant late tackles, and punches thrown, and even holding back players. The sharks were simply not focussed at all.
The Cheetah’s even did the unthinkable, of spurning kicks at goal in favour of try scoring opportunities.
Camo, put that on your toast and smoke it. If anybody had to eat their words, it has to be loud – mouth Campo!!!
I look forward to a cracking game Saturday.
I don’t want to be arrogant in victory, but I think at the moment the two top teams are ultimately playing in the final
7 Oct 2006, 20:47 pm
Suidwes,
wat beteken siel?
7 Oct 2006, 20:49 pm
Hey EvaCheetah
I’m not playing any race cards & certainly not the refs, but I still think JC Fortuin was ****. Certainly not an international standard ref. But like I’ve already posted, he was NOT the reason the Sharks lost. The Cheetahs created too much pressure & the Sharks terrible discipline got the better of them. I don’t think ****’s tweaking helped either. As soon as FS got points on the board, the Sharks became rudderless & the discipline worse.
Hey, I’m only calling it as I saw it!
And you’re right. The 2 teams in the final are probably the best 2 teams.
7 Oct 2006, 20:49 pm
As die cheetahs weer so min strafskoope afstaan, sal hulle dit maak. Maar states/bulls is gewoonlik baie meer fisiek, so ons sal meer strafskoppe sien. Ai, maar die drinks is lekker vannaand, en dis nog net die begin.
7 Oct 2006, 20:51 pm
Rev. Jim Jones, siel is “your soul”
7 Oct 2006, 20:52 pm
“And you’re right. The 2 teams in the final are probably the best 2 teams.”
Except for the Lions. : – )
7 Oct 2006, 20:53 pm
Enjoy those drinks Suidwes.
I mentioned earlier in this thread whether it was possibly a tactic for the Cheetahs to wind the Sharks players up – given the Sharks reputation for ill-discipline. Perhaps a few choice words & sarcastic rubs of the hair? Well, if so it was ingenious – it certainly worked & highlighted a HUGE SHARKS WEAKNESS. Full marks to Rassie, cause I think its a fair tactic. Fact is, the Sharks players shouldn’t react to wind-ups. If they hope to be competitive in the S14 next year, the poor discipline will need to be addressed. Pronto.
7 Oct 2006, 20:53 pm
255
Haha. Lions prob would have been better competition!
7 Oct 2006, 20:54 pm
As die leeus heel seisoen gespeel het soos die laaste paar games, was hulle daar. Maar ongelukkig moet jy heel seisoen speel. Sien uit om hulle volgende jaar te sien.
7 Oct 2006, 20:57 pm
Quinnyshark, ek dink definitief dat dinge gese is, maar soos jy dit noem, n ou moet kalm bly. Ek het n paar vriende wat cc speel, en jy sal jou doodlag vir van die chirps op die veld. Was verbaas dat Jannie du Plessis so rustig was, dis goed, hy en sy shark boetie moet nog groot rugby speel.
7 Oct 2006, 21:00 pm
#258, ya, they had to get of the ‘Ludeke Curse’ in the first few games before they could start playing. Lions/Cats have had some of the worst coahes EVER.
7 Oct 2006, 21:01 pm
#254, thanks. I’ve looked for an online woordeboek but could never find one. Het in Durban hoer-skool gegaan, ons Afrikaans onderwyser het vir ons in Engels gepraat.
7 Oct 2006, 21:03 pm
Rev JJ
Why you not a Sharks fan?
7 Oct 2006, 21:03 pm
Als reg rev. Nie baie dat n durbaniet vir die leeus skree nie.
7 Oct 2006, 21:06 pm
Quinnyshark,
moved to Durban when I was 12 or 13 from Jhb, and took a strong dislike to the Sharks, as the passion for the game was way stronger down there than in Jhb. (This was in the late eighties)
Quite like the Sharks now, though; it’s just the Bulls I dislike.
7 Oct 2006, 21:07 pm
“as the passion for the game was way stronger down there than in Jhb.”
Doesn’t make much sense…
I will try find a way to explain better.
7 Oct 2006, 21:08 pm
LOL
Was watching the WP-Bulls game with the girlfriend – albeit reluctantly on her side. She’s from the Cape & almost died when she heard “Liefling”. Words: “OH NO, is that….why are they playing THAT at a RUGBY game?”
7 Oct 2006, 21:08 pm
Hey Quinny, I was not refering to you playing the race card at all. it was some other comments. i have agrred with most of your assessments, and you are pretty objective, so no worries.
The Sharks will bounce back, and with AJ back they will be good in the S14
i am looking forward to the S14 next year. maybe for once we can have 4 teams competing. I don’t know if the WP, will be as effective
But on current form the Bulls, Cheetah’s Sharks, and Lions can certainly play good rugby
Sharks, Chhetah’s more so, as they will not be too affected by springbok call ups. I look forward to your views on this
Cheers man
7 Oct 2006, 21:10 pm
Right ouens, die vuur is aangesteek, die dop loop en ek moet gaan verder drink. Geniet die aand en praat weer maandag.
7 Oct 2006, 21:12 pm
cheerio Suidwes
7 Oct 2006, 21:13 pm
yeah I’m also out
Enjoy the evening everyone!
later
7 Oct 2006, 21:34 pm
bye bye.
7 Oct 2006, 21:43 pm
All right you are gone but why go on about the LIONS (255)
The Bulls won 5 in a row and might make it 6 on Saturday, and the games was against beter opposition under more presure. The last Cheetah game was like a quater final and today was a semi final, what ever the Bulls do , no one will give us credit.
We like it that way keep it like that but dont call us arrogant you drive us there
7 Oct 2006, 21:45 pm
superBul, I am not gone, was saying bye to Quinnyshark.
“but dont call us arrogant you drive us there”
I didn’t call you arrogant, I called you intellectually-challenged anachronisms.
7 Oct 2006, 21:49 pm
but have to be off now, speak later…
7 Oct 2006, 22:30 pm
D Muir is a joke!
7 Oct 2006, 22:40 pm
The next joke will be Rassie, the disco lights might just hasten it for him
7 Oct 2006, 23:33 pm
LOL Superbul, actually the next joke is on you for underestimating the genius of Rassie!!
obviously the lights are working a charm! The cheetah’s have the players, to switch strategies in an instant. Just because it is a bit to clever for you to understand, doesn’t make it wrong
the bulls are the form side, but if any team can possibly beat them it is the Cheetah’s
And a home final will do the cheetah’s the world of good financially. i ask again, when last did the bulls play a final away. In the past 16 years theBulls have only played one final away, against the lions in 2002.
it will be interesting to see, how they manage
8 Oct 2006, 00:12 am
i Might sound so fanatical about the Bulls winning but to be honest it doesnt realy matter. I wont be poorer or richer if we win or lose. The fact is my team has build up a proud record and i like to be associated with this. Losing to a good team like the Cheetahs wont kill us.
Your team has the same culture and if you had the money we had you would have been more regular winners.
Last year i said if we have to loose i would prefer to loose to the Cheetahs. i Also said the Cheetah win will mean more for SA rugby than a BB win. Dont misunderstand me i hate losing and we wanted the cup dearly to honour of Ettiene.
This year it will even mean more for you, if you guys win it again. It will shift the balance of power in SA rugby permanently.
8 Oct 2006, 00:18 am
“obviously the lights are working a charm! The cheetah’s have the players, to switch strategies in an instant. Just because it is a bit to clever for you to understand, doesn’t make it wrong”
Great stuff , the lights doesnt bother me so much ,as long as Rassie dont blind our players, i am more worried about the bleeding problem the Cheetahs have. But on the other hand the muti you use doesnt only stop the bleeding it cures the scars too.
8 Oct 2006, 04:52 am
Sharks were not very good in this game!
They did however come out firing but a few errors at crucial from JC Fortuin broke their confidence.
Ive seen an empty coke bottle ref better than JC FOrtuin.
What a wanker. And Lynston Manuels too…
They should both be shot in the town square!!!!!
8 Oct 2006, 07:57 am
and all Campo’s whinging comes to NOTHING!! this bloke just a waste of Sharks money.. sorry sod!! you should try your luck at AFL Campo.. they looking for some coaches over here mate!!
8 Oct 2006, 08:04 am
Oh Joy
Schumacher’s Ferrari blows up.
8 Oct 2006, 08:24 am
Kaballas en Boktjops
Ek is nou wakker en het behoorlik kans gehad om die wedstrydverslae te lees. Soos ek gisteraand probeer se het het, ek het nie die wedstryd gesien nie.
Maar as julle probeer “verduidelik” dat Rassie die bloulig aangehad het om te sein dat julle moet die voet van die pedaal afhaal, dan praat julle nonsens.
En die ref…? In julle guns, geen twyfel.
Ek is WP, soos julle weet, maar ek vertel julle, julle gaan bars om daai Blouspan te wen, glo my.
En ek is die laaste ou om Bloubul te ondersteun, maar moenie te gou windgat raak nie.
In elk geval, ek dink die twee beste spanne is die finaal, en ek hoop Vrystaat wen. Maar nie soos julle die tweede helfte gespeel het nie, dan gaan die Bulle julle afslag.
Die Bulle speel volgens die ou patroon…vaste vyf wat oorheers, n no 8 met die bynaam “Mr Everywhere”, en n briljante skakelpaar. Outydse Buurman van Zyl rugby, vir 80 minute( as julle nie dit ken nie, sal ek aan julle tweetjies verduidelik!)
Vat dit van n WP-man…en vergeet van Rassie se blou ligte…julle het n ander blou om oor te bekommer…
Sterkte vir julle.
8 Oct 2006, 08:31 am
pieterman goeie more
netnou weer die game gesien op ss1, die WP se grootste probleem is julle het toegelaat dat LW te groot rol begin speel
8 Oct 2006, 08:46 am
284# Hello ou superBul
Ek praat uit onkunde, sonder visueel. Maar ek lees die verslae en luister na die wyse manne.
Maar al die manne wat weet soos Jinx, stem saam met jou. Luke is goed, maar hy speel ouens soos Diack uit die spel uit.
Nee wat, WP se jonges moet nog baie leer.
Maar die Bulpatroon sal enige man desperaat maak! Terug na die basies broer. Jy kan nie hierdie game speel met n pak soos daai nie en n skakelpaar soos daai nie.
End van die storie. WP verdien nie n finaal nie, NTvl wel.
En slegte nuus vir OVS, die Bulle gaan julle looi as julle speel soos gister se laaste 50 minute, die Bulle speel vir 80 minute, sonder ligte!!!
Onthou net, ek is WP, maar objektief in belang van SA rugby..
8 Oct 2006, 08:51 am
Pieterman.. what do u think of Joe Pietersen in flyhalf for WP?
8 Oct 2006, 09:03 am
GC
My thoughts on Pietersen at 10 is that he would need game time at club level first. The problem for any 10 at the moment is that if he’s not experienced enough he’d be dominated by Luke. I truly rate Luke as an opensider but I see disaster in the S14 with him as captain. I can’t see JdeV, Big Joe and Schalk if he plays, putting up with his approach.
WP are are neither fish nor fowl at the moment. If they want to play open rugby they must move the ball out wide quicker and with runners taking the ball at speed.
Lukes determination to dictate play is causing uncertainty at 10, 12 and 13 as they have no idea how or when they’re going to get the ball. With all the flatfooted passing of the ball between the forwards the inside backs can’t develop momentum.
8 Oct 2006, 09:08 am
this is where i think Joe P will do that job of moving the ball out wide.. like u said game is important for Joe.. Luke on the other hand seems to want to do too much..
8 Oct 2006, 09:13 am
The Bulls will easily beat the Cheetahs.
Why?
I have watched every single televised game this season and have noted that the Bulls turn of fortune is due the fact that have realised that are allowed to get away with murder. Just yeaterday Johan Ackerman was carded for rubbing an opposing team players’ face in the dirt, go back to the Bulls game and count them, 3 times Bulls players were guilty of the exact same offence.
The same number applies to the game against the Freeatate. The Bulls clearly have no brains, but tend to try and make up for this by trying to intimidate, demorilise and bully the oppostion.
It makes sense that they are virtual no shows in Super rugby, they only make the semis by virtue of beating the SA opposition, in which case SA referees officiate.
Let international referees handle the games and you WILL see the Bulls for what they really are.
Anyway on the Spies issue, he is good, but does he contribute anything to the Bulls team other than in broken play? He is a backline player and plays like one. Lets call it as it is. He makes a couple of good runs each game, but so does every single backline player in the game. The only reason a fuss is made of it, is because he is not wearing a backline players number on his back.
Now on the question of my beloved Sharks, They were outplayed in the first 30 minutes and deserved to lose. It is a pity that the two best teams in the competition had to face each other in the Semi’s. Unfortunately Dicks squad rotation system is to blame here (the loss to Griquas) Next season promises to be a big one.
And finally the Cheetahs have a slight chance against the Bulls, provided Mr Fortuin gets to handle the whistle, he was vissible delighted with every Cheetah score, couldn’t get the smile of his face in the first 30 minutes of the game.
8 Oct 2006, 09:16 am
GC As David says..or even Greeff.
No 10 berth reason for concern, traditionally WP’s strong point.
Luke must give up the captaincy and play without restraints of responsibility, like Spies.
Can you imagine Spies as BB captain!!
8 Oct 2006, 09:18 am
i agree on the neutral refs for these games finmaster.. too much of matey matey on the field at times..
8 Oct 2006, 09:18 am
GC
I suppose my point is that until Luke curbs his habit of interfering in every aspect of the play it doesn’t matter who plays at 10.
10 has an understanding with 9. 12 with 10 etc. Luke is interfering with that understanding and it has a knockon effect down the line.
8 Oct 2006, 09:18 am
GC
You in OZ bru, from Cape Town?
8 Oct 2006, 09:20 am
I liked Luke yesterday, and I’m not realy a fan. He did what a forward is supposed to do, unfortunately there is no glory in being the “donkey” who has to do all the work.
8 Oct 2006, 09:20 am
yeah Pieterman.. living it up!! Mother City all the way!!
8 Oct 2006, 09:22 am
finmaster
I didn’t watch, no TV over here.
But I heard the ref clearly on RSG: “Who made that pass. You Meyer? Next time you make a forward pass like that, I’ll give you a yellow card”!
I ask you.
8 Oct 2006, 09:23 am
Pieterman and David..
my main concern is nr 10.. Joe just looks the part.. or i could be wrong.. and i hope mot..
imagine him and Gio linking up!!!!???????
8 Oct 2006, 09:24 am
GC
We are on the same time zone, check your watch!
8 Oct 2006, 09:25 am
where are based Pieterman?
8 Oct 2006, 09:26 am
these postings are SA time Pieterman.
8 Oct 2006, 09:28 am
Kaballas en Boktjops were trying to convince me last night that the Cheetahs took their foot of the gas the last half (Rassie’s blue sign)in order not to give too much away for next Saturday.
Ek dink hulle praat kak. Wat dink jy super?
8 Oct 2006, 09:29 am
300# I know. I am in Korea, but my heart is at the “Big Rock”.
8 Oct 2006, 09:31 am
Ek dink die beserings het meer te doen gahd met die tweede helfte se vertooning as ” foot of the gas.
Spelers wat uit posiesie gespeel het.
So graag vir Meyer Bosman op loskakel wou sien in daardie tyd met Burger op buite senter an Falie op vleuel.
8 Oct 2006, 09:32 am
Falie se besluitneming is nog steeds baie swak!
8 Oct 2006, 09:32 am
Rassie looks like he’s perving on the Cheerleaders from the rooftops.. or maybe it is not the lights giving his players signals.. could be the gals.. the way they expose their snatches to the players..
8 Oct 2006, 09:34 am
It’s distraction tactics just like the Bulls girls!
8 Oct 2006, 09:36 am
the bulls gals are blonde dumb and full of ***!!
8 Oct 2006, 09:36 am
Finmaster,
Spies was a bacline player until about a year ago, he is 20/21 years old and has a lot to learn , but i tell you he learns fast.
How many other backline players do you know that can do what he achieved.
8 Oct 2006, 09:42 am
Pieterman ek dink nie sy kaarte het op Loftus gewerk nie , en solank hy nie die ligte in die teenstanders se oe skyn nie, laat hom maar bietjie speel, ander coaches rook hul weer amper dood.
Die feit is as dinge verkeerd loop op die veld gaan dit gewoonlik vinnig daars nie tyd vir kaarte en liggies kyk nie, hy kan dalk nog sy eie spelers se aandag aftrek.
Ek hou minder van sy omruil van voorrye onder die voorwendsel van bloed beserings
8 Oct 2006, 09:51 am
309# Lyk my jy glo nie daai bloed-storie nie!!
Plastieksakkies met McDonald’s ketchup?
8 Oct 2006, 09:53 am
Finmaster
I agree. Luke had a great personal game yesterday.
GC
I know what you mean about Joe P looking like he could play flyhalf. What I’ve realised is that each position needs a different psychological makeup based on the individuals approach to the game.
Most talented ball players look like potential 10s. Only by playing them there will we ever know if they are genuinely suited for the position.
8 Oct 2006, 09:53 am
I for one am glad Kaplan is officiating this match.
He is the one ref in SA that does not ignore all the
off-the-ball stuff. Think back to the 2005 final.
The Cheetahs had a lot of injuries and positional changes and that contributed to their second half performance.
How good is KABAMBA?
GO THE CHEETAHS!!!
8 Oct 2006, 09:56 am
Superbul
I just hope the Bulls and Jake let Spies settle into 8 and learn the craft of the position.
8 Oct 2006, 09:57 am
Met soveel bloed moet dit letsels laat , die ouens lyk darem te heel na so bietjie rus.
Maar in elk geval daar is mos n dokter wat moet besluit, so as Slim Rassie dit regkry ,so be it.
Hy moet net nie dink as hy bevordering kry die internasionale spanne sal dit so gemoedelik aanvaar nie
8 Oct 2006, 09:59 am
superBul Spies used to be a backline, he is not one anymore.
Anyway i am not dispting the fact that he is a good player, he is is just not a good forward in the traditional sense of the word.
Anyway he looks much better in the green and gold and should have a contract soon and then he will be out of next years CC. In the words of a famous Bulls supporter :”bwaaaahhhhahaahahahah!”
Carefull of not putting all your eggs in one basket, remember WC ’95 and a player called Lomu?
He was depended on to much and i think the Bulls are doing the same with Spies. Other than Spies and the Boks who aren’t playing the Bulls are not that good on paper or the field.
8 Oct 2006, 09:59 am
Jy kyk te veel CSI superBul.
8 Oct 2006, 10:06 am
316# Simeon, gooeie een!!
Haai Super, hier is n idee….wat van n DNA-toets om seker te maak dis dieselfde voorrie se bloed!
(Ek terg net)
8 Oct 2006, 10:07 am
I am all for Kaplan handling the final. The Bulls players are rotten to the core and it rubs of on the Boks as well, blow them card them ’till they listen, and the Boks will reap the benifits.
8 Oct 2006, 10:08 am
finmaster
Lomu, good example.
There is indeed a lesson to be learnt from that one, beware!
8 Oct 2006, 10:14 am
Finmaster
I don’t think Jake or SARU can afford to hand out any more contracts! If anyone deserves one it’s AP but I think with the WC so close they’ll use that as the incentive rather than a contract.
8 Oct 2006, 10:16 am
Pieterman
If Jake had is way he’d have 15 Lomus in his starting 15 and another 7 on the bench!
8 Oct 2006, 10:28 am
Hey Guys you are missing my point totaly , i never thought Spies is the best ever. Hey no come on i said all along the Bulls played as a team and each player worked towards the teams goals and thats why why we are such a good unit.
The days when we dont play together we also look sh#t.
But what i say Spies is surrounded by good looseforwards, yesterday Kuun, Lobberts and Danie did brilliant work. Its not us that goes balistic on Spies i in fact thought Gary Botha was the MOM
8 Oct 2006, 10:31 am
But lets face it he looks good with a rugby ball in his hand
8 Oct 2006, 10:34 am
Superbul
I agree with you about Botha. The mans been massive as both a player and captain the few weeks.
Spies needs to managed as an eighth man and it’s a pity that Leonard has gone back to George as I reckon he would have been a good mentor.
8 Oct 2006, 10:37 am
Yeah i hope hes not made a one season wonder. The Bulls used him in the beginning of the season as a impact player. Maybe thats the way to use him in minor games, rest him dont expose him too much
8 Oct 2006, 10:41 am
On the impact player thing.
I have never seen a game where impact players made such a impact the moment they come on, maybe its luck but still it was impresive.
Steyn first touch 3 points dropgoal
Lobberts first touch try , 5 points
Hottie within the first minute try time 5 points
8 Oct 2006, 10:52 am
325 superBul
Nou praat jy waar. Daai ou moet nou reg bestuur word, soos jy voorstel.
(Jy maak nogal soms sin weet jy? Veral noudat jy meer tyd tusen jou WP-pelle deurbring!)
8 Oct 2006, 11:03 am
Kyk daars darem n paar van julle wat jul provinsiale brille afhaal,soms, nee man ek se mos dis net n game en as dit so gespeel word geniet ek dit.
Om bietjie te stry is ook lekker maar een ding is verseker net so graag ek wil wen so wil julle ook, anders het ons mos nie ons spanne ondersteun nie.
as ons verloor het sou ek ook die ref aangevat het en die volgende dag kom verskonnings vra
8 Oct 2006, 11:12 am
# 326 super
Goeie waarneming, nooit so daaraan gedink nie.
8 Oct 2006, 11:25 am
Onder die BLOU van ons LOFTUS hemel,laat ons die Sharks verlang na die see. Teen ons magtige BLOU BUL vegters, kan WP nie antwoord gee. Oor ons LOFTUS VERSVELD vlaktes, bo die kreun van die Vrystaat klaag, ruis die stem van ons geliefde, van ons Span wat die Beker dra. Ons sal antwoord op jou roepstem, ons sal Leeus tem soos jy vra. Ons is BLOU en ons is BULLE, kampioen van Suid-Afrika!!!!!!!! BAIE GELUK BULLE!
8 Oct 2006, 11:35 am
Baasblou, gaan jaag die kallers hok toe boet.
8 Oct 2006, 11:36 am
HOU BY DIE BLOU!!!
8 Oct 2006, 11:37 am
Wat se julle van daai lynstaan waar die sharks 13 spelers in gehad het, kan nie onthou of dit gewerk het nie maar was nogal intresant, sien nie net DiscoRassie het plannetjies nie.
8 Oct 2006, 11:39 am
Maak die Bulle almal Bokke!!!
8 Oct 2006, 12:12 pm
Bulle gaan cheetahs battered die naweek…hahahahaha
8 Oct 2006, 12:19 pm
#334
en dan verloor hulle 60- 0 teen Japan!!
8 Oct 2006, 12:25 pm
The battle of the Boer republics.
mmak nie saak wie wen nie, net solank dit nie die Mofgatte is nie.
8 Oct 2006, 12:30 pm
GWB – van wie praat jy as jy ‘Mofgatte’ se?
8 Oct 2006, 12:31 pm
BaasBlou
Jy het nou al oral lawaai, tot in NZ, geen reaksie…
Rook nou jou jooint verder in stilte, ons het jou gehoor, OK?
8 Oct 2006, 12:33 pm
338# Hef
Moenie, bekommer, hy praat van ons WP-manne.
8 Oct 2006, 12:33 pm
thehef,
WP en die Sharks was mos nooit n Boererepubliek nie….
Dus gee ek nie om wie wen tussen die Bulle en die Staat nie, net solank dit nie een van bogenoemde is nie.
8 Oct 2006, 12:34 pm
hallo pieterman.
8 Oct 2006, 12:35 pm
wat is jou eerlike opinie oor Watson na gister se game, as jy dit gesien het?
8 Oct 2006, 12:40 pm
luke is kak
8 Oct 2006, 12:40 pm
GWB, ek het nie gesien nie, net RSG geluister.
Maar volgens die kommentators was hy OK.
Hang af teen wie mens hom opweeg.
Daai Floors van Cheetahs klink na n meneer, Luke se kapteinskap is sy albatros.
8 Oct 2006, 12:42 pm
logies sal jy so dink, baasblou.
ek vra vir Pieterman.
8 Oct 2006, 12:42 pm
danie is beter as luke en kamamba saam
NOU DIE BLOU
8 Oct 2006, 12:45 pm
pieterman, soos jy, sit ek ook ver, maar kon darem die game kyk vir n slag.
Luke het almal se werk gedoen behalwe sy eie. Voordurend tussen die agterspelers, terwyl hy nie een bal gesteel het nie. As hy minder bors slaan en sy werk voor doen, kan hy ontwikkel. gister se game het sy saak niks goed gedoen nie.
8 Oct 2006, 12:46 pm
GWB, ek moet eerstens se dat ek nie Luke fan is nie, maar ek sal nie omgee om Luke in die nr 6 trui te he vir die Bokke nie – vir iemand wat 22 jaar oud is, is hy ongelooflik ‘mature’ en almal wat rugby geniet sal saamstem dat dit lekker is om iemand so te sien speel, maak nie saak vir watter span hy speel nie.
8 Oct 2006, 12:47 pm
Congrats to the Cheetahs and Bulls – clearly the sides with the most structure got through. Sharks and WP were disappointing.
Nice to see the two “Spears” saviours of Cheetahs rugby get the joint man of the match award!!
GWB – still living in “boer republic” state of mind … sad individual you are!
8 Oct 2006, 12:48 pm
Ek dink ook nie Fester se eksperiment met Gerrie Brits het sy saak gehelp nie
8 Oct 2006, 12:50 pm
kevin w,
Fokof.
As jy nie n sin vir humor het nie, ignoreer my posts.
8 Oct 2006, 12:51 pm
kevin het jy gehoor die BLOUBUL het gepraat!
8 Oct 2006, 12:54 pm
en waar is die grootbek david Crampeasy nou wat mos die Staat as vervelig en voorspelbaar beskryf het?
Kom jou ****** krimineel, ons wag!
8 Oct 2006, 12:57 pm
Bulle gaan Chetahs BREEK die saterdag…en ek gaan daar wees om dit te sien!!
8 Oct 2006, 12:57 pm
post campese ook hier?
8 Oct 2006, 13:01 pm
amazing when some dumb bonehead makes a derogatory comment, it always was said in jest!
Nee BaasBlou, ek het net klomp kak liedjies gekoor!
8 Oct 2006, 13:04 pm
Well, we all knew what the outcome of this game was gonna be anyways.
8 Oct 2006, 13:18 pm
Okay, kevin w, i meant it.
So what?
8 Oct 2006, 13:28 pm
you are a sad individual … i don’t need to try paint my first comment a pretty picture
8 Oct 2006, 13:34 pm
GWB
Hoe sien jy die game in Euro? Watter kanaal? Boerboel was daar en hy kon fokkol sien nie.
8 Oct 2006, 14:13 pm
Skysport 3.
Op n pirate box!
8 Oct 2006, 17:41 pm
Vrystaaaat !!!
Cheetahs gonna have steak Saturday…
8 Oct 2006, 17:42 pm
Time to beat **** Muir around the ears Keo?
The Sharks under performed because he stuffed up the selection for the third time this season. When will he learn to use James, Russell and Steyn effectively?
Although Jake White is often criticised for his dour continuity policies, **** Muir has not yet shown what he has learnt from all his combinations this year. Nor is there any clear indication of what his S14 run on team will be. I doubt that he knows either. The lack of stability in the Sharks back line is part of their performance problem.
8 Oct 2006, 18:02 pm
**** faded badly in the CC ,2006, a few bad blunders
not playing his best side in Kimberly cost the Union a lot of money
Changing the run on team yesterday didnt confuse the Cheetahs but his own team took a while to find each other
8 Oct 2006, 18:22 pm
Moet se daai Steyn ventjie moet mooi opgepas word, kan nie glo hy is maar net 19 nie!
Lyk nie bang vir verdedig nie, sal hom graag in een posisie wil sien speel, die dat hy een week heelagter speel dan losskakel is k@k!
Muir het lelik misgetas met sy span keuses, wys jou net weer jy kan nie om vir die trots van n trui te speel koop nie,Lensing hul 1.3m per jaar kontrak is in die 1e 20min afgehaal,Ackermann pateties,tyd om pakket te vat ou bul!
Sharks en S14…Mmmmm weet nie so mooi nie,hul afrigter is te veel gepla om die een span aan te kondig en n ander op te stuur.
Bulle…kry fort loftus terug en wen tuis voor daai skare, ja moontlike semi plek wag!..en wen die odd oorsee game.
Stormers…blink toekoms wat wag,lekker jong span om mee vorentoe te gaan.
Leeus…speel soos in die 2e helfte van CC en dinge kan gebeur!
Cheetahs…met Rassie weet jy nooit.Dink hul kort diepte in sekere posisies.
Eintlik probeer ek vir myself klein kry hoekom ons nie die blerrie S14 kan wen nie!
8 Oct 2006, 18:58 pm
Muskadel, wat ek nie kan kleinkry nie hoekom ons so stadig uit die blokke kom, kyk maar na 3 games skarrel ons vir punte, vergeet die 2 local Derbys. Ons moet eerder die local derbys los speel en sorg dat die verloorder minstens 2 bonus punte kry, OK dis onmoontlik om te “rig”.
Jys reg n span kan jy nie koop nie, en met ondeurdagte aankope kan jy lelik onmin saai en spangees opduiwel. Ek hoop die Bulle het hul spelers behoorlik “gebrief” oor die rede waarom Wickus gekontrakteer is.
8 Oct 2006, 19:08 pm
Sal graag wil sien hoe HM en Pote vir Wicus gaan gebruik, wel hys n beter kaptein opsie as Frikkie…
8 Oct 2006, 20:39 pm
Kaptein aseblief, Hy moet eers werk om kaptein te word, Hulle saal gary botha of Matfield kies. en ok vir fourie du preez speelers wat lank al by ons is
8 Oct 2006, 22:49 pm
Jannes..poephol,net gese hy sal n beter kaptein as Frikkie wees(tong in die kies)…mooi lees!
8 Oct 2006, 23:13 pm
praat nie net oor jou nie baie mense het gese hy moet bul kaptain wees wat ek dink is ‘n bietjie dom vir ‘n ou wat pas in die span kom
9 Oct 2006, 09:54 am
Ackerman did not punch the guy, but he pushed him in the face. the stupid linesman, says ” i definitely saw him punch but i dont know which part of the body he punched” — the dude just wanted to get his mug on the TV — he was smiling and trying to speak at the same time. What a load of codswhallop
9 Oct 2006, 13:13 pm
333 Dit het geresult in ‘n drie was nogal goed.
9 Oct 2006, 17:23 pm
Where is Campussy Now?
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