Mike lets Catt out bag
14 Sep 2007
Mike Catt and not Andy Farrell will play flyhalf against South Africa.
Farrell had been named at flyhalf in the England line-up but Catt admitted he would wear the No 10 jersey on Friday night.
“I’ll start at 10 and predominantly stay at 10,” Catt told BBC Radio 5live. “Obviously with Andy’s left foot, I think it’s a vital part of our game,” he added.
“It’s a bit like myself and Olly (Barkley). We want to get us down in the right parts of the pitch and when we do that we can attack off it. It’s a massive task for us but as long as we play down there anything can happen.”
England coach Brian Ashton said he viewed the two players as being interchangeable in the role.
“As an educated guess, Catt will play 10 and Farrell 12,” said Ashton. “I see them both as inside backs, mixing and matching during the game. If I didn’t think they could do it, I wouldn’t have picked them.”
Farrell has won all his six caps as a centre since his high-profile switch from rugby league, while Catt has won caps at full-back, centre, fly-half and even on the wing since making his England debut in 1994.
Speaking on Tuesday, Farrell said that he viewed the inside centre and fly-half positions as much of a muchness.
“The last few weeks the 10s and 12s have all been swapping in and out anyway, and we share the workload and responsibility,” he said.
“The way Brian likes to play, he likes his 10 and 12 to control the game between them. There is not that much difference, just a bit more responsibility at 10.
“When Olly went off during training on Tuesday, me and ‘Catty’ just sorted it out between ourselves.”
England will start with Farrell as their first-choice goal-kicker with replacement scrum-half Andy Gomarsall lined up as second choice should anything happen to the former Great Britain rugby league captain.
Catt has kicked 22 penalties and 16 conversions for England during a 13-year Test career, but did not kick at goal for his club London Irish last year to protect his problematic back.
Farrell’s goal-kicking pedigree in rugby league is unquestioned, having landed 1042 goals in 230 Super League appearances for Wigan, but his last kick at goal in an international was three years ago when playing league for Great Britain.
297 Comments
13 Sep 2007, 19:19 pm
First woohooo
13 Sep 2007, 19:26 pm
May it be a Cattastrophe!
13 Sep 2007, 19:28 pm
but his last kick at goal……….was posted by keo?
13 Sep 2007, 19:30 pm
Looks like we are going to be seeing a lot of kicking tomorrow night…
13 Sep 2007, 19:31 pm
but his last kick at goal didn’t go farrell enough.
13 Sep 2007, 19:33 pm
4, yes lots of balls are going to get kicked tomorrow night.
13 Sep 2007, 19:48 pm
Headline tomorrow night after the game … Roses Catt to pieces.
13 Sep 2007, 19:50 pm
Even if Johnny wankerson had to play, there is still no doubt in my mind that we are going to give them poms a whippin 2morrow night
13 Sep 2007, 19:52 pm
8, I agree … the exiting world champions to suffer at the hands of the entering World Champions.
13 Sep 2007, 19:57 pm
TIENDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
13 Sep 2007, 19:58 pm
8
One thing that I cannot accuse Wilkinson of being is a w…..r.
I still struggle to believe that he is English. He totally does not fit the mould of an “Englishman”
In fact, the only reason why the Poms won the last World Cup is because they had three very un-English leaders in their team. Johnson, Dallaglio & Wilkinson. Real men, real respect.
13 Sep 2007, 19:59 pm
What do you do to intimidate Maike Cat? You walk up to him and say: “Hi, I am Jonah Lomu.”
13 Sep 2007, 20:00 pm
Big Surprise….Beeg, very beeeg.
The english are about as sly as a turtle.
13 Sep 2007, 20:03 pm
Cal,
What do you do to beat the Boks?….Bring Jonah along. Thery spent so much time tending to him that they forgot that there were 14 other AllBlacks on the field.
This is the only reason why the kiwis beat us in 96 to take their first ever series in SA.
We are so “proud” of never conceding a try against Jonah we forget about the resultant losses.
13 Sep 2007, 20:05 pm
…either way, Catt wouldn’t even make the current EP squad.
LMAO
13 Sep 2007, 20:05 pm
… maar daai vlamme en vuur brand nou diep, diep binne my …
13 Sep 2007, 20:09 pm
So many resultant losses but the game which mattered , the world cup final, was won by the boks and they were the only team that could defend against jonah when he came onto the scene. We pride ourselves in it because nobody could stop him but us.
Those losses are not remembered as much as winning the world cup is. Just like if nz don’t win this one, nobody will be talking about their tri nations victories for the next 4 years. Its the world cup that counts.
13 Sep 2007, 20:15 pm
17, agree. Although it is not fair it is the WC that matters. We all here should acknowledge that NZ is the best team in the history of the game – but they need to win the WC to prove it (which is unfair).
13 Sep 2007, 20:18 pm
Sneaky these poms. Real story here is that Ashton will play flyhalf on Friday
That will screw up Bok’s game plans 
13 Sep 2007, 20:20 pm
19, the way things are going he may have to
13 Sep 2007, 20:21 pm
England are the World Cup Champions
…but the All Blacks are the World Champions.
Go ahead disagree.
This is just one tournament. Consistency counts. Deep in our heart we all know that.
13 Sep 2007, 20:22 pm
ha ha Jim T,
Ashton playing flyhalf, he will huff and puff so hard his whisky red nose will end up looking like Rudolph’s…
Catt at 10 is bad, he is getting on and has lost most of his pace.
13 Sep 2007, 20:23 pm
There is no way that the Poms can win this game. The only thing that can go wrong is that we blow it, with brainfarting, again.
13 Sep 2007, 20:28 pm
21, NZ is the best (18), we know that, but the rugby WC, like in soccer, is what carries the most weight in people’s minds. That is how it is … and it has been a bitter pill for NZ to swallow to date. If they win it this year they will feel liberated … and if they do end up winning it I will be happy for them.
13 Sep 2007, 20:31 pm
No-one deserves the WC more than NZ – but the WC rarely rewards the one most deserving (unfortunately).
13 Sep 2007, 20:34 pm
No difference to the outcome of the match. These dirty filthy poms are gonna get roasted.
13 Sep 2007, 20:38 pm
I think that if the AB’s won the world cup, it would be a tragedy. Not only for us, but for World Rugby.
The power of the game belongs to too few. If our Bokkies can’t win the whole shabang then I’m for Argentina all the way.
Rugby needs to be turned on it’s head, and they are the only non-power broker equipped to do so.
13 Sep 2007, 20:51 pm
YoMama # 21
That statement is very true, but it is always very nice to have the silverware in your trophy cabinet to back your claim to fame up.
Its a bit like Federer, we all know he is the best player in the world with one exception…..NO FRENCH OPEN TITLE to his name.
Just as Collin Montgomery will always be remembered as one of the best never to win a major, even though he won the European order of merrit 6/7 years in a row.
13 Sep 2007, 20:56 pm
Hehe it’s great to be over here,the pomms are $hitting themselves,we just got to hou kop and we can put these muppets away.Oh yes any McClaren supporters out there? Cheating bastads
13 Sep 2007, 20:57 pm
Skydiver
Stick around a day or two and I think that will put paid to your attempt at crystalballing!!!
13 Sep 2007, 21:11 pm
Little wee word of caution here, any saffas thinking tomorrow nights game is a gimme against this England side better have another good hard check on reality. This England side can give our boys one mighty torrid game tomorrow, it will not be a stroll in the park believe me, also we are fielding a new no.6 who I rate highly and won’t let us down, but 8, 10, 12 and 14 could all be potential problem areas in our game. 8 because he’s too cumbersome for an 8th man should be a lock, 10 because he’s not a match winning flyhalf just a damage limitation exponent, 12 because he is young and inexperienced and might just try too hard to impress and expose some open channel, and 14 for much the same reason, hardly experienced and not hard enough for this level of competition.
So if England smell any weak link or get a whiff of some blood being spilled they will attack that vulnerable spot with a vengeance, therefore our new look side which most here think are quite invincible against England might just be in for a few little surprises tomorrow night and I certainly hope will be able to adapt to the required reaction as they find necessary on the field, if we can’t adapt and be flexible enough to react instantaneously to adjusting game plans we might very well be found a little wanting in certain key areas.
13 Sep 2007, 21:12 pm
AB….Thats not an attempt at crystalballing. Look at the Sharks in the S14. Best team in the compitition, but no trophy in the cabinet. The poms are shite at the moment, but are still refered to as the world champions every time they play. What I am trying to point out is that if you dont win the world cup, you are not regarded as the world champions. No matter how good you are for the next 4 years, or what your record says over the same period.
13 Sep 2007, 21:27 pm
31, I (we) hear you, but this is the game that the Boks have been preparing for for four years. If the Boks can stay calm and stick to the plan I believe they will crush the poms. I don’t think England have been this worried for a very long time (if not they should be). If we stay cool we will be awesome.
13 Sep 2007, 21:28 pm
Match Result
England 6.50 Bet
Tie 26.00 Bet
South Africa 1.10
says it all
13 Sep 2007, 21:29 pm
Match Result
England 11/2 Bet
Tie 25/1 Bet
South Africa 1/10
for those who need fractional odds
13 Sep 2007, 21:41 pm
I must admit that this game has me biting my nails. Complacency will kill us. Good discipline, desire, cool heads, and a massive team effort should see the Boks come out on top at the end of this game!
13 Sep 2007, 21:46 pm
The world cup is a great tournament, but too much is made of the results. Honestly, at the moment England is supposedly the world champs..! World ranking should decide who gets called the Champions.
I’m a South African and I support the boks, but have to admit the All blacks are the best team in the world.
Sadly for South Africa, we have to contend with selecting teams compiled by politicians, coached by people approved by politicians and managed by politicians. I have no doubt that if we get rid of these people , most of which has never touched a rugby ball, much less played the game, we will doninate the game globaly. Until then, we will continue to play second fidle to the Kiwi’s and occasionally when the Aussies have enough South Africans in their side, to them as well.
As for SA vs. Poms: If Pretorius stays on the bench untill well into injury time, we’ll win at a canter. If Jake has brain failure and bring on gatspiertjie, we could be in trouble….
13 Sep 2007, 21:47 pm
YoMama #21
I’m going to have to disagree.
IMO the world cup is the true test of a World Champion, because you have 4 years of expectation and pressure on you.
One slip up and you’ve lost your chance for another 4 years…
You ask the Kiwis whether it matters to win the World Cup! You’re right, consistency does count. Be consistent over 2 months, and you get to call yourself: “WORLD CHAMPION!”
13 Sep 2007, 21:59 pm
#31 As I recall you were the one saying FS must play, now you say he is to inexperienced…which is it?
As for Wikus there is no problem in that area and I cant wait for him to slot in with Smith. Danie for me is a better lock but he has proven himself against Samoa that he can protect the scrummie and play a good no.8
Butch has also proven himself and SH@t man he cannot seriously say that Catt is a better flyhalf than Butch? Yes we have a weakness in 14.
BUT
England’s whole team is full of weaknesses. Vickery is not playing (their captain), Wilkonson is not playing (their no. 1 weapon), Dalalglio is not playing (one hell of a physical guy), their second best flyhalf Barkley is not playing. Then their is no really good players in their backline except Robinson who is playing FULLBACK and even he lost a yard or two.
No way man! Seems to me like they have problems on 1, 8, 10, and 15 is out of position.
We match them in every position and are even better in some….lets go through them 1,2,3,4,5,9,10,11,15
They’ve maybe got our numbers on 12 and 14, 6,7 and 8 is quite equal.
Hope that makes sense. The Poms will kick every ball and it won’t be a spectacular match, but we will win easily!
13 Sep 2007, 22:00 pm
33 yes cool is the name of the game but I have serious doubts there will be many cool heads on there tomorrow, it will be a true test of psychological maturity not so much a test of physical or athletic prowess, or for that matter strategic rugby acumen, but it will definitely be a test of psychological strength and courage.
13 Sep 2007, 22:05 pm
39 Yes and I still say he must play and I am backing him to do well, but I am also saying the leadership from the senior players has to unite and gel the team and especially the youngsters who will be eager to show their raw natural skills, given the base for that to happen and Steyn will excel, thrown into a cauldron of uncertainty like he was in Durban and he might just falter.
13 Sep 2007, 22:11 pm
I am not concerning myself too much with any potential English weakness, if I were involved in any preparatory role within the Bok team I would only be concentrating on any potential weakness of our own, to consider any opponents weakness is to fall foul of complacency and gross underestimation, you want to underestimate the current holding team then do so at your own indiscretion, but talk yourself into a false sense of bravado superiority and you might just come crashing back to earth with a mighty heavy thump.
13 Sep 2007, 22:11 pm
Butch to do a Lomu on Catt……hehehehe, just hope he does not get cited for kitty hunting. But on a serious note, I am keen to see how the so called massive England pack stands up to the Bokke juggernaught!
13 Sep 2007, 22:21 pm
Hmm,just watching the ’03 semi in Oz v the Pomms,the most glaring thing is the Oz crowds booing Lois Koen kicking for poles against the Pomms!! Go Wales on Sat
13 Sep 2007, 22:26 pm
Can Habana kick?
I’d really think about giving him a run at 10 against the Poms.
Ok I’m being silly but the lack of pace at 10 and 12 should be like the parting of the red sea.
Steyn will feel like he has all the room of being on the wing anyway.
Bokke…….only real question is by how much?
by 30?
13 Sep 2007, 22:29 pm
Flame,you going to any of your boys games?
13 Sep 2007, 22:31 pm
Ox
“my boys” ?
13 Sep 2007, 22:32 pm
Oirish?
13 Sep 2007, 22:34 pm
OK Gotcha!
Heading to the South of France alright for two weeks on hols. If we take a wrong turn and end up in Bordeaux/Montpelier for a Irish/Bokke game then great, but probably take in the atmosphere in a bar.
What about you?
13 Sep 2007, 22:37 pm
Got shares in a semi ticket with a Welsh mate,which ever team makes the semi will go.
13 Sep 2007, 22:38 pm
told u farrel would never play 10
looks like the lawyers from rupert threatened
the world cup citing committee
so the cowards reduced Burgers ban
13 Sep 2007, 22:38 pm
Nice, I like it.
Oxford, sounds posh…will you be wearing white or green and gold?
13 Sep 2007, 22:41 pm
Flame,I thought we were starting a lasting friendship here! The only white in my abode adorns the toilet roll holder!
13 Sep 2007, 22:45 pm
Ox,
That clears the air Bru!
Clear road ahead
13 Sep 2007, 22:47 pm
Bok supporters way 2 confident
i dont like it
13 Sep 2007, 22:48 pm
And we think SA have had a problem at flyhalf.
13 Sep 2007, 22:49 pm
Anyway….
Have a really good feeling about SA
(WTF am I feeling about Ire? No idea which Ireland has made the trip. Too much vin rouge?)
Schalk out, who cares we have good backup.
JDV out…ok Steyn will do nicely
NZ good team, genuine contenders, respect.
But we know how to beat them like others don’t.
On the day let the best team take it.
13 Sep 2007, 22:51 pm
Flame,you jol rugger where u are?
13 Sep 2007, 22:52 pm
#37
Weh Weh Weh,politicians this politicians that.Put a sock in it pal.Which politician chose JW as coach,Gert Smal,Coetzee?None,maybe u could say Xola Yeye(debatable) but he is just the manager an doesnt play a part in team strategy at all.
Which selections in this current side are politically motivated?Pieterson was the best SA wing in S14,Habana is the best in the world?What are u talking about?People like u piss me off because u dont have a leg to stand on in current SA society unlike the “gud ol days”(wink wink) so u choose blame everything on politics when u dont even understand what our country’s political system is structured or the different issues that plague our society.Sport is part and parcel of society “boetie”,its not beyond reproach.
And contrary to your claims SA rugby even when the “politicians” didnt mess with rugby and your great Boks(pre-94′)have never dominated world rugby.The All blacks have always been the standard especially the last 30 or so years.So stop picking stuff out ur a$$ and posting it here and deeming it as law.
Cant believe u had the nerve to make such a satement ehich has no base,evidence to support the view and shows such a blatant disregard for what this country is trying to achieve.
13 Sep 2007, 22:53 pm
Ox.
In Dublin, longing for the Highveld…..daily
13 Sep 2007, 22:56 pm
You play at all?
mshini,ignore the nditi s’bali!
13 Sep 2007, 22:59 pm
oxfordshark
That middle statement just really got to me sbali.But yeah I’ll take heed of your advise next time.
13 Sep 2007, 23:00 pm
Personally, I think Brian Ashton is keeping Stuart Barnes under wraps for the No. 10 jersey for the game tomorrow. After the game Stuart and Mike can swap stories about their grandkids.
13 Sep 2007, 23:00 pm
Some years ago, schoolboy level.
Zippy, elusive centre, wing, fullback.
Funny how the aches and pains don’t heal like then.
Are you still playing?
13 Sep 2007, 23:00 pm
can anyone point me in the right direction, i need finalised team lineups for this weekend for WC
13 Sep 2007, 23:02 pm
Jeez politics is the hot potato her huh?
Should let the Irish backs practice with it…..maybe their handling might improve
13 Sep 2007, 23:03 pm
Catt is going to run rings around Butch James. Hougaard is the only guy that can stop him.
13 Sep 2007, 23:05 pm
67.
I’d be very surprised, James kinda likes tackling.
Catt can be a good playmaker alright but there’s little around him to play wih/off and I’d take my chances of beating him in a dash over 25 metres myself.
13 Sep 2007, 23:08 pm
But we cannot sing Liefling when Butch scores.
13 Sep 2007, 23:09 pm
69.
Where did the “darling” nickname start?
13 Sep 2007, 23:12 pm
Hak hak hak, Hougaard is kak. En ek wonder of hy nie ook nog vir die ander span bat nie!! Watter man met enige bietjie selfrespek laat toe dat sy fans hom Liefling noem??? Nee sies man. Tot Ismaail Dollie van die Boland tackle beter as Hougaard. Maar JJ Harmse/bullfan weet buitendien so min van rugby af dat hy dit nie eers sal agterkom nie.
13 Sep 2007, 23:13 pm
The f@$%ck knows. You should ask those halfwitted ouks with the horns on their hats. They really love it!
13 Sep 2007, 23:13 pm
21
Thats a ridiculous statement, thats like saying Brazil are soccer world champions even though they flopped at the last world cup.
The 2003 won the right for the title of World Champions to be bestowed upon English rugby for 4 years.
The ABs love people like you who roll over and tell them they’re the best without them even having to prove it on the highest stage.
13 Sep 2007, 23:14 pm
Flame too many injuries boet but still play a lot of touch league which is taking off,always looking to go on a tour/pissup though.
Mshini,the okes not worth getting worked up about sbali,let him live in his little world
13 Sep 2007, 23:17 pm
Flame I think they named him after a song by one of the fathers of Moftus,Gey or Steve Mofmeyer!
13 Sep 2007, 23:17 pm
73.
Won fair and square in 2003 though England peaked a year earlier, and left an aging team that defended the title badly.
But kudos, first NH side to do it, and with the easy draw should still make the semis.
Bit of luck, you never know… but England seriously need to blood some newbies and Ireland are not far behind for the same reason
13 Sep 2007, 23:17 pm
Ek **** Hougaard gaan die nuwe SARSU Voorsitter word. Blykbaar dom en pienk genoeg…
13 Sep 2007, 23:20 pm
Hehe bull,your own okes are going to bliksem you!
13 Sep 2007, 23:21 pm
Ox
Yep touch is where I honed my side step.
Miss that a bit.
Shoulder hurts, elbows hurt….. eish
13 Sep 2007, 23:22 pm
I’ll never mention it at Loftus though, but yes, I truly get embarassed by some of my fellow supporters often!
13 Sep 2007, 23:23 pm
Bullfan.
Been to loftus once.
SA 90 odd, Wales ..not much.
SA played some good running rugby
13 Sep 2007, 23:24 pm
guys,,,where are this weekends team lineups?
13 Sep 2007, 23:25 pm
76
The title isn’t defended until the following World Cup.
You can say we defended the 6 nations title badly having finished behind France and Ireland consistently and Wales in 05 but the defence of the world cup doesn’t start until 07.
The ABs seem to think that the intervening years have a bearing on the World cup. haven’t they learned anything?
They have 7 competitive games to prove themselves, if they don’t make it then they weren’t up to it and cannot be called World champions.
13 Sep 2007, 23:26 pm
Catt at 10…..what a surprise. geez but the Poms r so clever. Old news!!!!
13 Sep 2007, 23:28 pm
Cheers gents,need my beauty sleep,got a job interview in the morning,GO BOKKE!!!
13 Sep 2007, 23:28 pm
Flame,
You need to go there when the Bulls are playing my man! When the manne with the horns on their caps are singing the Bloubul song, the Bulls babes are swinging their lovely asses and Bulletjie the Mascot is making cartwheels….that’s the REAL Loftus..! When the Boks play there it’s just another field.
13 Sep 2007, 23:30 pm
84
it would’ve been clever had Catt not told Radio 5 Live.
13 Sep 2007, 23:30 pm
#86
u dont really support the bulls….just trying to stir?
13 Sep 2007, 23:31 pm
Katvis, don’t think you’re Skinstad and get clever now…
13 Sep 2007, 23:31 pm
#87
Eddie Jones told John Robbie…hehehehe
13 Sep 2007, 23:32 pm
#89
Hehehehe
13 Sep 2007, 23:36 pm
….I can’t wait for tomorrow guys! …just a pity Lobberts is not there…
13 Sep 2007, 23:37 pm
Wat gaan hier met die mense aan…… almal dikgevreet of swaar gewyn ?? Ha ha
13 Sep 2007, 23:38 pm
Ag bullfan
Nice try
13 Sep 2007, 23:39 pm
Nee man, doodnugter en wonder net hoekom Liefling en Lobberts nie more speel nie..!
13 Sep 2007, 23:40 pm
Ek sien ‘n slang innie gras……….
13 Sep 2007, 23:42 pm
#95
Hulle speel Saterdag…..in die cc. Hoort nie eers in die CC nie. Rate saam met Jorrie en Danie v Schalkwyk as die swakste spelers ooit wat ‘n boktrui aangetrek het…skande!!!!!
13 Sep 2007, 23:46 pm
Ek moet se as Leeusimpatiseerder (want die Leeus het mossie meer ondersteuners nie) moet jy saamstem PellewapperKlap dat die Leeus nog altyd die mees useless spelers opgelewer het, ek onthou vir ou Hempas Rademeyer en sy mak makkers, Jorrie en sy wavrag vol rommel….
13 Sep 2007, 23:46 pm
Katvis,
Hoe kan jy in my twyfel? Ek het n foto op my sideboard waar ek tussen twee bulls babes staan; Bulletjie die mascot het al op my laaitie se hemp geteken; ek het n bottel Port waarop die Bulls logo gesandblast is; ek ken vir Joost en Amor het al vir my vrou hallo gese in Pick& Pay; ek ry n blou Nissan double cab met TWEE bulls stickers op; my hond se naam is Bakkies; Eugene van Wyk het een aand toe hy getrek was op my n kat geskiet; en dan se jy ek is n bullshitter?!
13 Sep 2007, 23:51 pm
Bullfan
Ja ja. En ek is die paashaas. Jy is ‘n closet Leeu ondersteuner..
13 Sep 2007, 23:52 pm
As Homer & Marge Simpson ‘n Suid-Afrikaans vervaardigde reeks was sou hulle definitief Leeu Ondersteuners gewees het….
13 Sep 2007, 23:53 pm
#101
Dit is soooooo flou….. doen beter.
13 Sep 2007, 23:54 pm
**** Katvis, is jy SO hard up vir mede onndersteuners? Nie eers Jimmy Abbot gaan kyk eers meer vir die Leeus nie..!
13 Sep 2007, 23:55 pm
Neewat ek gaan sommer net voort op die trant van jou kaliber grappies oor die Bulspelers….
13 Sep 2007, 23:56 pm
#103
Nog flouer….
13 Sep 2007, 23:58 pm
#104
Grappies? Dis mos die waarheid……almal sê so.
13 Sep 2007, 23:58 pm
Trappe van vergelyking van Flou:
Flou, flouer, Leeuondersteuner
13 Sep 2007, 23:59 pm
Nee wat, julle raak nou lelik..ek gaan maar slaap..en droom van Wikus wat die kak uit Mike Catt uit tekkel!
14 Sep 2007, 00:00 am
#107
Ek dink jy moet gaan slaap…. jy’s besig om te sukkel.
14 Sep 2007, 00:01 am
#108
Hyt sy rugby by die leeus geleer.
14 Sep 2007, 00:01 am
Ek sukkel nie, net Leeus sukkel.
14 Sep 2007, 00:04 am
Slangetjie
Is jy nie besig met rekord eksamen nou nie. Jy beter gaan slaap.
14 Sep 2007, 00:05 am
Nee ek is oer-oud…….. soos jy !
14 Sep 2007, 00:05 am
110
dit mag so wees ja; maar toe was sy spel so eendimensioneel soos Wahl Bahrtman s’n: Net die heeltyd gepickup en drive! Deesdae doen hy alles. En **** wat ek se: Julle gaan nie eers more aand vir Skalla mis nie!
14 Sep 2007, 00:07 am
Mnr Leeu, het jy nie ‘n ou tannie vir ‘n girlfriend met ‘n mooi 28-jarige dogter wat ek kan date nie?
14 Sep 2007, 00:08 am
Slang
Maar nie so wys soos ek nie.
Fan
Geelkaart Nel baseer sy spel op Wahl Bartman.
14 Sep 2007, 00:09 am
#115
hehehehehehe nie met daai slangetjie nie.
14 Sep 2007, 00:10 am
Jy weet nie eens watse slangetjie ek is nie. ha ha
14 Sep 2007, 00:12 am
#118
‘n Erdwurm is nie ‘n slang nie!!
14 Sep 2007, 00:13 am
Jy het seker op jou tyd slot gespeel maar was op die end te kort vir slot….
14 Sep 2007, 00:14 am
Jy’s reg Katvis; die Leeus het al n groot bydrae vir SA Rugby gemaak: Sannie Breedt, Harry Viljoen, Louis Luyt, Kabous…waar sou ons sonder hulle gewees het..?!
14 Sep 2007, 00:17 am
‘n erdwurm is nie ‘n slang nie maar ‘n slang is ookie ‘n erdwurm nie…
netso ‘n Leeu is koning maar ‘n koning is nie ‘n Leeu nie..
14 Sep 2007, 00:17 am
en Brian van Rooyen!
14 Sep 2007, 00:18 am
#120
En te vinnig….en te slim.
#121
Ons het die WB in 1995 gewen. Goed genoeg? Dis hoekom ek worry oor hierdie jaar…weereens te veel bulle spelers in die span…..soos die jare na 1995.
14 Sep 2007, 00:18 am
Slang,
Jy’s besig om dit te verloor my ou. Gaan slaap!
14 Sep 2007, 00:20 am
En Jorrie…..
14 Sep 2007, 00:20 am
ag bullfan…….. ek speel met die diere van die zoo hier……. ‘n leeu en ‘n buffelbul…
14 Sep 2007, 00:21 am
Onthou jou woorde as Bakkies en Matfield moreaand daai lynstaan bolle vat; Wikus die kak uit Catt uit tekkel; Danie oor die bleeksiele loop; en wanneer jy in die lug spring van vreugde wanner Habana draaie deur die manne hardloop…onthou jou woorde…
14 Sep 2007, 00:22 am
Earl gaan nog ‘n legende word…….
14 Sep 2007, 00:23 am
..ja en Randy ook.
14 Sep 2007, 00:24 am
Ja ‘n legende, legendaries vir meisieslaan…
14 Sep 2007, 00:25 am
Mmmmmmm Danie loop ja……as hy hardloop lyk dit of hy loop hehehehe
Habana het OOK sy rugby by die leeus geleer.
Cheers fannie en slangetjie….ek gaan slaap. Vermaak julle maar mekaar hiehaaaaaa!!!!
14 Sep 2007, 00:25 am
Ek is so bekommerd dat daar nie WP spelers in die Bokke span is nie.
14 Sep 2007, 00:42 am
percy is a WP man
14 Sep 2007, 01:21 am
hey tomsta. i just wanna goto sleep so that when i wake up on saturday morning its bokke time.
i am so looking forward to this game. bookies have boks at 1-10.
14 Sep 2007, 02:01 am
Thak G there are no WP players in the Bok team. I am WP but at the moment they are shythouse.Maybe we should have had Watson in the team ( yugh!!!).Reckon the Boks will win? Bring on 5am
14 Sep 2007, 02:27 am
I think Mike Catt might surprise a few people at 10 but the England forward challenge will have to be ferocious if they are to really compete on the scoreboard.
14 Sep 2007, 02:34 am
Shock The World (STW)
14 Sep 2007, 02:40 am
#138
BH, any reason why this wasn’t kept under wraps. JW seemed to cover the possibility of Wilko playing by adding Pienaar as a wing replacemnt.
No contingency for Catt at 10.
Don’t you think the surprise of catt at 10 would ahve been best served at match time.
14 Sep 2007, 02:42 am
139
Morning McDirk_Syndey
I think there must have been some sort of communication failure between Ashton and Catt because it was Catt who broke the news.
The other theory is that England are playing with 2 tens.
I’d imagine Farrell will be caught up in a lot of defensive work, so it makes sense.
Its a pity that the surprise wasn’t kept because it really did have the Boks confused.
14 Sep 2007, 02:53 am
Morning Boys
Dominee – you sound a bit grumpy this morning – whats up ?
Biggles – Your girls will STW just by actually being competitive. I expect their fanciest footwork will be displayed in the 81st minute … on the return to the dressing room … heads hung low
14 Sep 2007, 03:00 am
Morning BH.
haven’t seen much of farrell, although believe he is quite powerful having come across from league.
Who else would have been an option at 10?
Know things are looking better for SA, however the English have a habit of playing better against us.
i don’t follow the consensus on this site that we will do the English in by a massive score.
I am quietly confident of a win though, if we can maintain some disipline. i have no doubt the English will have been bouyed by how easily our boys were conned into playing the samoan type game in those first 20 mintes.
14 Sep 2007, 03:09 am
yeah i always expected catt and farrel would alternate anyways.
14 Sep 2007, 03:11 am
mcdirk – not so sure many people are predicting a massive victory. they are just as sure as they have been in a while that victory it will be. a cricket score wont do the boks much good anyways. a nice tough encounter would suit much better. and be bettter for the fans
14 Sep 2007, 03:16 am
never has a pool game meant so much to us.
wales/Argies vs wallabies/AB’s.
We just have to win. Know we will have to beat either wallabies/AB’s in the final if we get there. Nothing wrong with the easier route in.
Go the Boks, and go the Wallabies. We both need to win this week-end.
14 Sep 2007, 03:23 am
Julle maak my lekker lag, just remind the slimeys about their fantastic sporting achievements in world history and just say “remember 1966 – mmmm first and last time”
14 Sep 2007, 03:31 am
More Princess, how are things this morning?
McDirk, it will be tuff and we may well run away with it. Don’t really care, a one point win will be good…but not for the heart!
14 Sep 2007, 03:35 am
#147
Morning Mate.
You know what. i am tired of sweating till the last minute. All those close games over the years where we ahve either been defending our tryline like hell, only 4 points clear, or worried about conceding a penatly late on , leading by 2.
Hasn’t done my haert any good.
Just once i would like us to be leading by 15 with 10 to go, so i can finally get off the edge of my chair.
My couch has a funny little hollow right in front from all those close cricket/rugby matches.
14 Sep 2007, 03:38 am
Morning Princess. Grumpy? Me?Maybe I am going thru Men- a- Pause! Cant wait for 5am tomorrow.Will be tough with Schalk. Maybe Eddie Jones can call on Cheeky Watson to give the guys a Pep Talk!
14 Sep 2007, 03:39 am
141
Morning Princess
The ABs have been hanging their heads low the whole way back to the NZ and their unrealistic fans every 4 years for the last 20 so I wouldn’t go gloating.
142
There were no other options at 10 unless we sent Barkley or Wilkinson home and that just isn’t an option as we will need them in the quarter finals.
I think the key to this result will be the Boks mental approach because the English will be up for it like they haven’t been for 4 years.
Re. the Quarter finals, a Wales win would really set the cat amongst the pidgeons.
14 Sep 2007, 03:39 am
14 Sep 2007, 03:41 am
yep munki
this day cant end soon enough. bring on 4′oclock knock off and work drinks, then before i know it its kickoff!!!
you have your bok jersey on at work?
ive got flag flying, bok jersey and a good supporters jesters hat on as well.
14 Sep 2007, 03:41 am
More Ds Asyn and how is Melbourne today, wonderful day up North?
14 Sep 2007, 03:45 am
Hehehe good stuff Tomsta, got a pretty serious drinking event myself tonight. From a vague memory I only got home at about 4 am last year for the same event, will have to curtail myself tonight or else I may just miss it all…
14 Sep 2007, 03:49 am
Koos dis kak hier. One moment it pours with rain; next we have a heat wave. No wonder half my staff have flu. But then its Friday and the Aussies have a habit of taking a sickie on either a monday or friday. If in the building trade it friday and Monday!~ lol
14 Sep 2007, 03:55 am
Oh it happens in every industry Ds, even where I work. What amazes me is that they don’t even try and hide it, everyone knows and nobody cares…
Truely beach weather up here the last week, hope it keeps up for the week-end!
14 Sep 2007, 03:57 am
Hey Big *** your not related to Jones the jurno are you,you certainly have it in for the AB’s, but i suppose when your #1 you get nokinanus like you that no nothing about the AB’s mouthing off
14 Sep 2007, 04:00 am
More Koos
I was once “dog sitting” for a neighbour and after an ABs tight game (obviously against yr Boks) it took me half an hour of laying on the floor begging while offering treats to get the dogs to come out from under the bed
More Dominee
“Men-a-Pause” ?? Gosh that sounds like the ultimate remote control for women
Hey Biggles – Settle down, I am just making fun of your boys *NOT* gloating about mine – wud not dare risk putting a hex on the ABs !
14 Sep 2007, 04:06 am
Dominee
Still nice & warm in HKG … fine too
I may even be onto a lead to get the RWC hooked up to home – which we make me a very happy girl indeed
14 Sep 2007, 04:09 am
Oh yes Princess, generally safely hidden away in their kennel after my first shout, they just know!
Hope you wearing the green again today…
14 Sep 2007, 04:10 am
Crikey guys reference to AB….for weeks now I thought you were referring to our legendary cricketer Alan Border.Stupid me!
14 Sep 2007, 04:10 am
Oh and good luck with the hook-up…sounds like a date
14 Sep 2007, 04:12 am
14 Sep 2007, 04:16 am
Koos
Hook up will be care of a little “Mr Man” as all HKG tradesmen are known & therefore DEFINITELY not a date 
Yes wearing green today
Dominee
Are you demented ? Take your meds man !
14 Sep 2007, 04:18 am
Don’t you farkers work…lol!
14 Sep 2007, 04:25 am
158
Any prediction for the score tonight’s game RP?
14 Sep 2007, 04:28 am
ha ha, no tomsta i dont. i went running a couple of times this week in my bok jersey and it wasn’t clean enough for the office. i’ll have it on next week though.
people are in little doubt as to who i support though.
BH – 26-12 is my prediction. whats yours?
14 Sep 2007, 04:30 am
if wales beat the aussies, smashing england will have been in vain …..
14 Sep 2007, 04:30 am
167
19-16 to South Africa.
14 Sep 2007, 04:32 am
168
Indeed and England will make a Semi-final yet again.
14 Sep 2007, 04:38 am
Biggles
Honestly don’t have a feel for what the score will be … am thinking the Bok winning margin with either be VERY small or VERY large & not in between.
14 Sep 2007, 04:39 am
28-18 Boks
14 Sep 2007, 04:46 am
171
Hmm, I’m thinking you’re right.
I do fear a landslide. The prospect of Habana grabbing 4 or Steyn De Beer-ing England all over again does not seem that remote.
I also think that England might be too psyched up to concede any major number of points.
I’ve opted for the latter because I’m hoping that England don’t collapse in the face of adversity.
14 Sep 2007, 04:47 am
Is cat still playing rugby – he was a has been in 95 already! Boks by 25 (if they have an off day)
14 Sep 2007, 04:49 am
im a bit nervous
14 Sep 2007, 04:49 am
That said, we have our own Habana in Paul Sackey who actually runs faster times than the SA wing.
check this finish from sackey:
youtube.com/watch?v=PgXfbolBf5k
14 Sep 2007, 04:50 am
170 – well, you’d need to beat wales first.
14 Sep 2007, 04:53 am
168# wales beating the aussies ???
yea rite and the pope is a girl
14 Sep 2007, 04:53 am
big hit – i have always wondered why england coaches ignore sackey. have always thought he was a dangerous winger. a bit like sailor, but quicker. will be a good test for pietersen.
must ask though – are you sure sackey is quicker than habanero? what distance are you comparing them over?
14 Sep 2007, 04:58 am
179
Sackey runs the 100m in 10.7 secs. He’s unbelievably quick.
I think England ignored him because he played for the unfashionable London Irish club. He’s since moved to Wasps and got much more credit and media exposure. Other reasons were the presence of so many other top-scoring wingers in England such as Ben Cohen and Jason Robinson. Sometimes Sackey’s positioning is a little awry but he’s definitely capable of the unpredictable.
14 Sep 2007, 05:00 am
finally saw the burger tackle. cant believe what a fuss has been made of something so innocuous. it was badly executed and timed but not malicious. the samoan did a great job of acting like an italian footballer though. maybe thats what swayed the JO.
14 Sep 2007, 05:02 am
big hit where were u born?
14 Sep 2007, 05:03 am
i just looked at that clip. sackeys not as big as i remember, so who am i confusing him with?
14 Sep 2007, 05:04 am
wow, check out this Brian Lima hit v Fiji:
youtube.com/watch?v=W9UCqhtOhoE
14 Sep 2007, 05:07 am
#178.How did you know the Pope was a Sheila?Just as well the Vatican dont have a team at the WC. The Pope will play hooker!
14 Sep 2007, 05:09 am
185# lol well the pope wears a dress
14 Sep 2007, 05:12 am
Big Hit… whilst we talk the talk, there are not many of us Bok supporters that are underestimating the Poms…
On paper, player for player they are extremely equal… and whilst current form plays a big part… this is a WC and there are many variables that can change the direction of a game in an instant…
Hence it’s going to be very difficult to get to sleep here in OZ to wake up for the 5am kick-off…
14 Sep 2007, 05:12 am
#168
Does this mean that us saffers over here in Oz, can look forward to you guys back home supporting the wallabies as well this week-end?
Or is that a bridge too far?
14 Sep 2007, 05:12 am
Munki… you might be thinking of Tom Varndell (sic), the 7′s star?
14 Sep 2007, 05:17 am
As usual us SA supporters have demolished Eng in the pre-game
14 Sep 2007, 05:20 am
Eish Bryce, I could hardly sleep last weekend before the Frogs/Argie game and I was wide awake at 3am
Not sure how it will go this time around…
But you are right, never can say before a tight game like this. On paper the teams are equal, current form we edge them. What we can’t gage though is the mindset on the day, for all we know the poms pitch knowing they can’t win or they may come out guns a blazing. And the Boks, all business like or just pitching to pick up the points. All this have much more influence than any current history leading up to the game.
We stand a chance to totally blow them off the park but it can just as well be close and although I believe the Boks will prevail a loss is not entirely out of the question…
14 Sep 2007, 05:21 am
Dominee
OOhh – you will get in trouble with God for that ! What if you have just hexed the Boks … You will never be able to go home again !
14 Sep 2007, 05:24 am
McDirk – if we beat the poms, there is no doubt we’ll be supporting the shackle draggers.
should the unthinkable happen, I’ll be cheering for the dragons all the way!!
14 Sep 2007, 05:24 am
Oops meant to say we are NOT underestimating the Poms…lol!
Koos, just going to have to have an allnighter but then risk not remembering the game… but I’d rather awaken in a babbelass stupor and see a win on the board…lol!
14 Sep 2007, 05:25 am
svs – boks are 1-10 at the bookies. no one is giving enfgland a chance. not even the english.
if we lose it will be an even bigger upset than argentina v france!
well, i’ll be upset anyways.
14 Sep 2007, 05:28 am
#195 A desperate team is a dangerous team and the poms have nothing to lose…only problem!
14 Sep 2007, 05:30 am
#193
On that point.
Some odd remarks in the paper this morning about the likelyhood of the aussies throwing the match for an easier finals route.
Some people need to wake up to themselves.
14 Sep 2007, 05:31 am
#195
Argentina beating France was always on the cards.
England beating SA is a totally different story,honestly i think SA will be to strong for England.
14 Sep 2007, 05:40 am
ah McDirk – the aussies did say they’d rather face SA in the quarters. the thing is, if they throw the match they face the possibility of being eliminated at QF stage. whereas they’ll have a better chance of making the semi’s if they play england at QF, but then they face ABs.
the thing is, Aus would back themselves to beat the AB’s in the semi’s. Can they do it for a 3rd time?
in 2 more days we’ll have a clear picture.
14 Sep 2007, 05:45 am
in fact I think the wobblies would be more than confident. to date they have played the AB’s twice at the world cup both at semi final stage, and won both of those games. in 91, and 03.
what price on an SA v Aus final? imagine the bleating about eddie jones then… especially in the boks won (hypothetical situation I know).
would be a shame though. i still would love, more than anything to see a Boks v AB final, regardless of the eventual winner.
14 Sep 2007, 05:48 am
No team who has lost a pool game has gone on to win the WC, outside of pride and anything, momentum is very important. There is no way the Wobblies will throw the game…
#198 Hurricane, wish I had the same confidence. To many dissapointments for a Saffa supporter to take it as a given!
14 Sep 2007, 05:50 am
#200
really.
I would prefer a Bok/Wallaby final. really want the boks to do it again. Seems so very long ago.
‘Not 60’000 South Africans, 43 million South Africans’
Just unreal. And if we don’t the wallabies are my adopted side, so a win there would be good too. nothing like a Bok win, but i would take it.
I do kind of feel sorry for the AB’s though. They really ahve been the best rugby side in the last decade, yet just cannot turn that into a Webb Ellis. Strange.
14 Sep 2007, 05:56 am
202 – the main reason i’d like to face the AB’s is because if we won at least they’d stop talking about suzie. and if we lost. well, i dont think there is any shame in losing a world cup final to the all blacks. bitter disapointment yes, shame no.
but let me not get ahead of myself here. boks and AB still have a lot of work to do before we can even start dreaming of another final between the old foes. that said, i like to dream.
14 Sep 2007, 05:59 am
#203
Too right.
I ahve been telling my mates back home about how much the wallabies have warmed to the boks of late, and then i read this from foxsports…
***** of London could not have said that any better – Burger got what he deserved for that blatant head high. A player will ALWAYS say they were going for the ball…
Lets hope The Chrio shakes that concussion off and brings out a few more bone rattlers in this tournament… Really enjoyed how he pointed out Pretorius before he set off on his kamikaze mission.
People like that should not be allowed to support rugby.
14 Sep 2007, 06:00 am
Princess might have to settle for Hong Kong.I am a bit worried about the Boks against England. Hope its not going to be another cricketing fiasco eg SA went to the WI as No1. Ended up #0
14 Sep 2007, 06:05 am
McDirk, I was very surprised to hear the lot on Inside Rugby last night, even old Marto was having something good to say about the Boks, including saying the citing of Burger was rediculous not to even speak about the sanction…
14 Sep 2007, 06:06 am
#201
Understand,maybe i am just hoping you guys will win.
If you want to talk about disapointments,i am a kiwi and this is the tournament that has had the better of us kiwis.
But honestly i would love to win this but i would rather not have the cup and have another great three and a bit years of playing good rugby than to have the cup and play like England have over the last three years,if you know what i mean
14 Sep 2007, 06:09 am
#206
Ye, watched as well.
Kafe has been a massive supporter of the Boks through the year, as has kearnsy.
Has been quite refreshing.
Just wish the boks supporters back home could see it.
There is a perception that the Aussies hate the boks. Probably more animosity the other way round.
14 Sep 2007, 06:13 am
Dominee
You almost have me feeling sorry for you padre – then you went & made the “settle for Hong Kong” refernce
WTF is that 
Stiletto being sharpened as I type 
Koos
Gun the Chivalry I am in need of a getaway driver for a stiletto a drive by / hit & run mission.
14 Sep 2007, 06:14 am
hurricane – you know you guys would do justice to your crown should you win. unlike the current chumps.
14 Sep 2007, 06:16 am
Yip McDirk, they do like ribbing us and we fall for it every time. The respect is there though and from last night I got the feeling they think we stand a very good chance of winning the whole thingy…more than I do at this stage anyway!
#207 Thought you might and was not going to draw the parallel out of courtesy
14 Sep 2007, 06:18 am
208 – very interesting and good to hear. i was in Melbourne when jake sent his B team for the tri nations, and the level of vitriol against the boks was totally unnatural. especially when they tried to blame the boks when they failed to sell out sydney for gregan and larkhams last game on aussie soil.
certainly there is no love lost between our cricketers!
14 Sep 2007, 06:19 am
#209 Ready and rearing to go…just speaka da word!
PS Remember to change the green to say, ah well canary yellow or white, don’t want it to be traced back to a Bok supporter…
14 Sep 2007, 06:19 am
Hurricane
If the boys don’t win this year it will not be for lacking of preparation, training, sweat, tears or blood even.
What is WILL be is soul destroying
14 Sep 2007, 06:21 am
Even the thought is throwing your words out I see Princess…
14 Sep 2007, 06:22 am
#212
Cricket is another thing. Smith destroyed any chance of building bridges there. He is a class A muppit that bloke.
What is great to see on this site is that each set of supporters seems willing to accept a win from either of the SH sides.
Most seem happy to just have the trophy back where it belongs, in the SH.
Great to see.
14 Sep 2007, 06:22 am
Koos
But no one wud believe a white or yellow jersey wud have the guts to do it – How about a nice “Samonan blue”jersey ? That would be at least considered credibe – Perhaps not even surprising …
14 Sep 2007, 06:24 am
Koos
Persactly – just the thought of such a tragedy causes the hands to tremble on the keyboard
14 Sep 2007, 06:44 am
well mcdirk to be honest there are a lot of teams i’d like to see win before aus win again. i have utmost respect for their professional approach to sport, but for a country that doesn’t generally take union seriously i’d be gutted to see them pick up their 3rd crown.
besides i think they’ve been told they can keep the trophy if they win again – well whoever wins it 1st for a 3rd time that is.
14 Sep 2007, 06:47 am
#219
can’t fault the logic.
14 Sep 2007, 06:50 am
munkiboi – yeah – I’ve been eating up my fingers like they just another meal (for the last month) about this game. It makes me even more nervous reading these dooses say we’ll win by 30. It would be wonderful if we didnt crow before the game (just once, pls)
14 Sep 2007, 07:00 am
ha ha, I have been crowing big time. not about a 30 point whipping, that is unrealistic and silly. but i have little doubt about the outcome. and i am never this bullish before a game of this magnitude.
14 Sep 2007, 07:02 am
Inside Rugby – I saw that as well – I was staggered to hear a positive word from Aus. Perhaps the fool Wallabie will actually be waking up to himself soon as well
14 Sep 2007, 07:05 am
Ja ou’s there is still 80 mins of rugby to play. I feel a kinda nervous optimism about the game, but sh*t i get even more nervous when some of you dudes start predicting big scores…………eish lets do the big talking on the field.
14 Sep 2007, 07:20 am
Mike Catts longevity in the top level has to be comended, one of the last players from the amateur era. As for the upcoming test between the Boks and Pohms, its going to be a great game, and obviously this is a Saffa site that will always have the full support of the saffa bloggers and the lobsided scoreline.
These two teams dislike each other and thats a given, so it makes for a close game?!? Thats my thought. England will step up in this game knowing full well that they are firstly the under-dogs in this game, secondly its the Boks and last but definately not the least, its a do or die game (OZ’s in the qtr’s) game for the Pohms.
“Cheating Boks” v “Whinging Pohms” these are not my words, its on rugbyheaven. I say its going to be the Boks by 12 and under with a scoreline of 29-18…
14 Sep 2007, 07:20 am
Koos
This is going to make you sick …
I have found a Cable TV Service in HKG that is running the RWC. I called them 5 minutes ago & they apologised for not having an engineer available to come & set up the connection before 8pm this evening ! They are even running an RWC “special” that allows me to sign up for a non-contract period & cancel the service after the RWC by just giving them 1 months notice
God I love living in HKG 
I will be “online” in time to cheer Boks tonight & ABs tomorrow & am consequently a very happy girl
14 Sep 2007, 07:28 am
EISH….
14 Sep 2007, 07:29 am
Good stuff Princess, enjoy!
14 Sep 2007, 07:35 am
#226
Lucky you RP, good afternoon all.
Fox comes standard with a standard package with add-ons like sports avilable. However you do need to sign up for a contract.
What a good idea. being able to sign up just for the duration of a tournament
14 Sep 2007, 07:43 am
Old News Keo this was reproted on the Follow England site of the RFU on Tuesday!!!!
14 Sep 2007, 07:53 am
Watch out for the Poms!
Bokke play better when underdogs.
Close game, Bokke by less than 7!
14 Sep 2007, 07:54 am
Koos & Dirk
Opting out of an 18 month contract only doubled the monthly fee for the 2 motnhs I do have it … what is not to love ?
The little Chinese man on the Customer Service hotline clearly had taken plenty of calls because he knew what Rugby was, which tournement I was referring to, the start & finish dates of the RWC & did not not quibble at all about the “short time frame” request !
14 Sep 2007, 07:59 am
Cliff Jennings should sing God save the Queen!
14 Sep 2007, 08:04 am
#232 Mmm if I opt out it will cost me about the same as three months full subscription, in addition I also get the first month free…no couple of hours notice though!
14 Sep 2007, 08:05 am
Jake not to make any changes till game is won!
14 Sep 2007, 08:08 am
Comment by rastafox : September 14, 2007 @ 7:43 am
As did Keo mate… check the date of the first post on this thread…
14 Sep 2007, 08:10 am
Francois Steyn to score 2 tries in 24/18 win.
14 Sep 2007, 08:14 am
OK then, England to win by 15!
14 Sep 2007, 08:21 am
#232
All set then.
Enjoy the rugby from where-ever in the world you might be.
Spare a thought for us here in Oz, getting up at 04H45 to watch the game. I shall have a coffee in hand rather than a chilled beer.
Something very wrong with that.
I am off down the boozer. Cheers all.
Go the boks.
14 Sep 2007, 08:22 am
Come on the Bokke!! Do it for Schalk!! (and me!!) …er and…these other okes as well
14 Sep 2007, 08:24 am
Enjoy McDirk…cold beer at 5am mmmm!
14 Sep 2007, 08:36 am
Koos
& I did not have to beg /threaten etc to get the guy to turn up
I save all that for #1 honey !
14 Sep 2007, 08:39 am
Yeah yeah Princess, rub it in. By the way, talking about honey, did you catch Manly and his grand plan for Vetkoek…it involves honey (a few litres of the stuff) and a … uhmm stickey situation?
14 Sep 2007, 08:42 am
Koos
EEwwwww ! What ?? I was wondering where he was today – perhaps they are still stuck in a compromisign position ? God, pls do not let the back set of the Chivlary be involved in this !
14 Sep 2007, 08:45 am
I saw this coming a mile away and the Chivalry is off limits to him. Hope he did not pick a park somewhere, may be overcome by ants or something…
14 Sep 2007, 08:49 am
Oohh … They use the honey & ants as torture in some Asian culturea you know … Never mind the Batman suit, tighty-whiteys & thig leaf – his silky could get a mauling ! Although depending on which sub-species of ants attack the swelling could go in his favour … so to speak
14 Sep 2007, 08:51 am
hello ppl cant wait! SKOPSKIET, I rate pakslae in NH conditions big stong ballcarrier cabable of protecting the scrummie and frans will shine in 12 just JPP that worries me but further tell the poms to COME GET SOME! hahahaha!
14 Sep 2007, 08:51 am
Lets dissect another crazy scenario.
If the Poms lose to the boks,it is still not over.
They will then play Wobblies in the QF and it is NOT a given that Oz will beat.
They could go on and play AB`s in semi`s…and then meet boks again in final.
What a strange WC it would be.
14 Sep 2007, 08:52 am
Are you absolutely sure the Chivlary is still in the garage ?? He made mention a while back of having a spare set of keys cut when you were not looking …
14 Sep 2007, 08:56 am
Changed the locks and everything….
PS Don’t tell him but I actually changed garages as well, old jeloppie in the old one, he never drives it anywhere and does his ‘homework’ in the garage so I am sure he won’t even notice in all the excitement…
14 Sep 2007, 08:57 am
Brian Ashton will pull an ‘Ian McIntosh’ and play Johnny. Brian would do anything to try and get some advantage, I think the English are closing their eyes and hoping for the best.
14 Sep 2007, 09:00 am
More Almal!!!!!
VIX INNIE MIX!!!!
TODAY IS THE DAY THAT WE HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR FOUR YEARS NOW!!!! F*K HULLE OP BOKKE, NIE MET DROPGOALS NIE, MAAR MET DRIEE EN DRYF SPEL!!!
14 Sep 2007, 09:01 am
Im flying to FRANCE TOMOROW so thumbs up! and vive da boks!
14 Sep 2007, 09:04 am
Koos
I am almost afraid to ask but what “homework” does ManlyBok do in the garage ?
14 Sep 2007, 09:11 am
I wouldn’t be surprized if Johnny runs onto the field tonight.
The whole week I have been confident about a Bok win, today I thought back on that game at Bloemfontein in 2000 when we lost 22-27 and we were the favourites. In the first 20 minutes they played out of their socks and we were way over confident, before we knew it the game was over.
14 Sep 2007, 09:12 am
#253
YOU LUCKY *******!!!! Enloy , I must say I’m very
jealous…
14 Sep 2007, 09:14 am
Sorry
Enloy=enjoy!!!!
14 Sep 2007, 09:16 am
More manne!
We must be careful tonight guys. Confident but careful. I cannot see the Springbokke losing but the ABs couldn’t see themselves losing throughout the last two cups and look what happened…
If we can check our discipline we’ll be fine.
GO BOKKE!!
14 Sep 2007, 09:18 am
VIX thx are as exited as me for todays match? man were gonna pommel the poms pun intinded!
14 Sep 2007, 09:18 am
At least this Farrel guy has a goalkicking record
14 Sep 2007, 09:28 am
Gerra,
Very excited, have my Bokke jersey on at work today and already got pissed last night…hehehehehe
We must keep our focus against the Poms and forget about all the k@k that the press writes about them!!! A stumble block is something you faal over when you take your eyes off your goal!!!
14 Sep 2007, 09:29 am
#261
faal=fall
14 Sep 2007, 09:31 am
Lions to win the World Cup!
14 Sep 2007, 09:31 am
Bokke to win the Currie Cup!
14 Sep 2007, 09:58 am
#254 Princessie
Manly maak Vetkoek!!
14 Sep 2007, 10:01 am
# More neef Cervix,
Ek het al die biltong dik gesny en Oom Piet het vir my so n “special” gestook. As ons wen dan swem ons kaalgat in die dam vanaand.
14 Sep 2007, 10:06 am
TONIGHT….WE CONQUER!!
14 Sep 2007, 10:09 am
saartjie, het jy ‘n weerbarstige krul?
14 Sep 2007, 10:13 am
Province to win the coffee cup.
14 Sep 2007, 10:21 am
Big Hit – I think England will hold the Boks for the first 50/60 minutes and then run out of steam.
I do feel for the Roses not having Wilko and Olly.
However England should try and peak for their quarter final against the ozzies.
I wonder why Ashton doesnt play Wilko at 10 and Olly at 12? That is the kiwi way nowadays.
14 Sep 2007, 10:23 am
There’s gonna be a ‘feral cat’ in the eng backline.
14 Sep 2007, 10:24 am
more more
oor 12 ure , is dit al die tweede helfte. Bokke is 20 punte voor, en ek is twee biere agter.
14 Sep 2007, 10:26 am
# 270 Firks=Friks
14 Sep 2007, 10:31 am
I went to the World XV against South Africa in Leicester last year and saw Farrell attempt one kick at goal. It was fairly simple but he only managed about 10 metres off the tee and landed in the Springbok 22 like a spinning top. If he is kicking, I am happy!
14 Sep 2007, 10:32 am
After Tonights game, we will be able to change Mike “Jonah’s Floormat” Catt’s name to: Mike “Butch’s *****” Catt.
14 Sep 2007, 10:35 am
Brian Ashton should have considered Farrel as replacement for Vickery, not as replacement for JW.
14 Sep 2007, 10:38 am
# 275 bwahahahahahaha
I would like Bakkies to make all the forwards his little *******!
14 Sep 2007, 10:43 am
Hello, hello almal.
Jis ouens ek kan nie stil sit hier by die werk nie. Wat sal ek nou doen vir ‘n time machine.
Vix ook my bok trui by die werk, baas het amper in sy broek gek@k, toe vuvuzela ek hom uit my kantoor uit.
Die ouens sal moet kop hou vanaand, maar verloor kan ek nie sien nie.
GO DIE BOKKE!!!!!
14 Sep 2007, 10:44 am
It’s about 3 years since Farrel last took a kick at goal in a competive league match, and he has only kicked 12 points for Saracens.
14 Sep 2007, 10:46 am
vossie @ 278
ok, ek het ñ time machine!
wat is jy bereid om te doen?
14 Sep 2007, 10:48 am
#258 – U’re spot on Raegar. CAREFULL MANNE!! We should win it in the end, BUT ONLY IF WE HAVE 15 PLAYERS ON THE FIELD FOR THE FULL 80 MINUTES!!!!
14 Sep 2007, 10:49 am
Asha @ 280.
V0k, noem net wat jy wil. Ek wil net d0nners vinnig by 9uur vanaand kom.
14 Sep 2007, 10:50 am
Hello All…
Just read a preview of tonight’s game on one of the other sites – writer said he’d put his head on the block and call it: ENG by 3…
I am very, very nervous about tonight.
Based on current form (purely considering the last few games played by both sides) – we should smash the English.
Almost everyone is talking about it.
Heck, I’m almost beginning to believe it.
But I say “almost”, because every single time I get my hopes up about a Bok game being a foregone conclusion – we lose.
One would only need to look back in the not-too-distant past to see that the biggest dissapointments in our rugby history, is where we go out and lose games we were most certainly supposed to have won…
Tonight is the perfect example.
If ever there was the perfect buildup to what could be an all-time dissapointment, and spectacular derailment of all things ‘perfect’ at a RWC, then its tonight.
I’m not trying to be overly negative.
I’m just trying to keep my emotions in check.
That way [touch an entire forest of wood], if something does go wrong – the urge to take a long walk of a short pier might sound less appealing…
I’m not all that convinced about the game against Samoa.
Everyone is raving about it now – but it was far from good.
I only hope that the Bok management, c’mon Eddie(!), will underline how much improvement is actually needed.
We were seriously unsettled against Samoa in the first half.
Yes – it was an incredibly hard match – so much so that Os was quoted as saying it was one of the most physical he has ever played in…
But, like it or not people – we went to pieces.
We could’nt kick the ball out to save our life.
We were taking their lineouts in similar fashion to stealing sweets from blind orphans, and yet no-one thought to get the message out to our kickers, to make sure of touch.
Our passes were going to ground.
The backline was stagnant.
And all the while our forwards were simply getting bashed backwards.
And then Habana scored.
And we all breathed a sigh of relief.
Things were looking up.
Percy in again just before the half – but it was a rather nervous sight of relief…
And as proof of this, come the first few minutes of the next half, and Samoa score.
Yes, they had their try disallowed – but that decision was marginal, to say the least.
The law discussion on another site reasoned that it could, quite possibly, have been given.
They remained a bit ambiguous in describing possible reasons for not giving the try – but I had the distinct impression that they writer was of the opinion that it could just as easily have been awarded.
A Kiwi site said that Honiss did not award the try based on how they were umpiring games in the NPC – but that this was not inline with what the IRB expected…
Honis, in their (possibly biased[?]) view – was wrong.
Not getting that try severely affected the Islanders.
It came at a crucial time.
Their minds were still on it for several minutes after the decision.
Their heads dropped, Steyn sparked – and the fat lady sang.
The point, however, is that the scoreline could VERY easily have been much different.
I think we probably would’ve still pipped them, based purely on my reasoning that our conditioning should have been better – but a close scoreline would have at least prepared us for tonight…
Don’t be surprised if ENG are capable of doing what Samoa did in the first 20 – only for much, much longer…
And if they do – what’s stopping us from going to pieces, for much longer, than what we did against Samoa?
The simple truth of the matter is, that EJ came here and told us – “match the Boks physically, and they have no plan B”.
He said it.
He said – that’s one of the ways of beating the Boks…
We know it.
The whole world knows it.
England knows it.
Correy has said as much.
Now I ask of you all – can we honestly say that ENG are incapable of matching us upfront?
Of course we can’t.
Are ENG incapable of niggling us to the point of distraction?
And with niggle – is the possibility of a card unlikely.
Of course not.
They scrummed well against us back home.
And their men are looking supremely fit and ready.
If we don’t go out there tonight playing 120% – with the massive amounts of English support expected in France – it could become a very, very long night…
I expect at least one try from a high cross kick, placed on either of our back three.
It worked against Steyn/Habana at Twickers on the EOYT.
The English love that tactic.
They will try it tonight.
It might actually work.
What remains to be seen, is whether we can absorb the initial onslaught (again), face up – and outscore them.
Naas said it last night – we should destroy England IF, IF we bring our A-game.
Please boys.
Please.
Prove to us that you are all, finally, ready.
Bring your A game – and help us erase those terrible memories of 2003…
But please people – keep your perspective.
And then, only then – AFTER victory, can we all take turns at flailing St.Michel…
14 Sep 2007, 10:52 am
As my old R S M used to say to the new troops: “On this parade groud I Fc&%K the Catt while You lot just hold it still.” I wonder who is going to hold Mikey while Butch does the deed!?
14 Sep 2007, 10:57 am
#283 Very Valid comment. I want to say it again: BE CAREFULL…… VERY VERY CAREFULL!!!!
14 Sep 2007, 10:57 am
vossie @ 282
ok, ok, ek kan sien jy’s desperaat. ook maar goed die time machine is nie in verkeerde hande nie (soos bv in ñ bulls ondersteuner sn). hy sou jou soos ñ haelgeweer probeer knak het en dan van agter af probeer laai het.
die beste wat jy kan doen is om maar later vanmiddag die vuur aan te steek, te sorg dat jy ñ paar goeie vriende nooi en dan maar te hoop die tyd vlieg. sterkte maat, ek ken daai gevoel.
14 Sep 2007, 11:03 am
I just hope we don’t get ahead of ourselves. But i think for once even when we are favourites we are treating the game with the correct respect.
Go Bokke make us proad.
Somebody knock me out now and wake me up at game time. I’m so excited I can’t handle it!!!
14 Sep 2007, 11:03 am
Well said, greenbok.
14 Sep 2007, 11:05 am
Greenbok @ 283
I aggree on some of the points you make but you also have to realise, this is the first time since the Tri nations test against the Wallabies that this team has played together. It took a while for them to settle in with each other.
Also the Samoans were insanely physical, while spoiling everything possible and a lot of off the ball antics, which I don’t think the Poms can do as effectively as the Samoans. They lack that “urge to kill”.
Add to that a Samoan pack that was over 940kg, while ours was 925. Much heavier but we m0ered them upfront. The Poms will be much lighter (probably better scrummer that Samoa) but without Vickery their front row is much weaker.
Then you have Farrel, which is a League convert that started his career as a prop, Catt which is the wrong side of thirty. The attacking capability in the backline is almost non-existant other than for Robinson at 15. Look at the last test against Fance, they never even looked like scoring – and that was with Wilko at 10.
I just don’t think the Pansies have the team to do it today, maybe if Wilko and Vickery were playing. Not today my friend.
I just have this feeling in my balls that tonight COULD be a record margin, but trying not to get too excited.
14 Sep 2007, 11:14 am
Asha1 @ 286 – Die manse is genooi, het genoeg hout gekry, het gestieraand die yskas uitgepak en gevul met bier, en vanoggen die vleis uitgehaal. Als is ready.
Jy moet hom geniet, dit gaan ‘n grote wees.
14 Sep 2007, 11:16 am
#289 Vossie…
Thanks for taking the time to read my post
You make some good points..
Eng and Samoa are two very different propositions…
But I stick to my point of us having to take our A-game tonight…
The English forwards of the modern era, simply don’t get pushed around anymore….
But dammit wouldn’t it be sweet if they left the field crying
All I want to say is that rugby, remains a funny game.
One can never really be certain of anything….
Which brings me to the point where I say that I wouldn’t be too surprised if Johnny did take the field tonight.
Which would make a victory [fingers crossed], all the more sweet!!!
Must say, I do feel much better after reading what old Os had to say about tonight’s game…
He appears to be taking it very seriously.
And I think he will be an accurate reflection of how the other forwards should be viewing the game…
It’s a classic article.
One funny bit, I’ll put in below:
“[Os admitted that the English in the 2004 loss were probably too physical for the Boks, this]must have taken some doing on the English part, for du Randt is a veritable Table Mountain of a sportsman. When a television interviewer asked the 125kg loosehead prop what he had eaten for breakfast, the audience crowded round to hear the answer. A horse, perhaps?
The reality was a profound disappointment. ‘A bowl of porridge,’ he replied.
‘Not too much.’”
Classic.
Good ol’Os.
14 Sep 2007, 11:29 am
Yes Greenbok
The way Os is talking the guys seem focussed and they know what they have to do.
I think we as the fans are getting a lot more excited about this game than the Boks, they know exactly what is needed of them.
They must just put their head down and do the hard graft.
They will know this game today determines the rest of the World Cup for us.
14 Sep 2007, 11:57 am
Geez…
Is it my server, or is Keo really dull this morning?
No comments since 11:29 on the top story?
Huh?
14 Sep 2007, 12:10 pm
Oh.
It was my server.
I’ve been sitting in this room, talking to myself.
Joy.
It was kind of nice.
14 Sep 2007, 13:32 pm
“Cal,
What do you do to beat the Boks?….Bring Jonah along. Thery spent so much time tending to him that they forgot that there were 14 other AllBlacks on the field.
This is the only reason why the kiwis beat us in 96 to take their first ever series in SA.
We are so “proud†of never conceding a try against Jonah we forget about the resultant losses.
Comment by YoMama : September 13, 2007 @ 8:03 pm”
Heres an example of if you repeat something enough and with enough conviction people might start confusing it with the truth. Jonah never played in any of the four AB vs SA tests in SA,1996. The wingers were Glen Osbourne and Jeff Wilson. Already Jonah was starting to suffer from his kidney ailment by that stage which unknown at the time to the fans or the AB management. Everyone thought he was out of form and unfit.
14 Sep 2007, 20:45 pm
Mike Catt is not a bad player…and should match Butch for physicallity…
But their backline and tectical game will just not be up to it…as Catt is a few bar’s bellow Wilkinson…
15 Sep 2007, 06:55 am
Mike the little Grey Boy from PE who said that we’re all a bunch of brandy drinking idiots.I bet you wouldn’t of minded having a green and gold jersey on last night you twit!!!
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