Kiwis want Barnes’s blood
8 Oct 2007
Furious All Blacks fans have put a NZ$1,000 bounty on the head of Wayne Barnes.
The English referee played a huge part in the Cardiff quarter-final. He sent Luke McAlister to the sin bin for a professional foul, missed a blatant forward pass in the build-up to Yannick Jauzion’s match-winning try and failed to penalised French hands in the ruck near the end of the game. Barnes also appeared to target All Blacks captain Richie McCaw at the breakdown.
A fan, or fans, doctored Barnes’s Wikipedia entry over the weekend (Wikipedia is an online encyclopedia that is edited by its readers), which starts: Wayne Barnes is a c*** and goes on to say he “suffers from a vision-related disease which results in him being unable to see forward passes” and “gave up law to take up refereeing because he couldn’t read any “f***ing law books.”
A $NZ1000 bounty is also offered to the person who “finds him for me and keeps him under lock and key until I get there.”
The Barnes attack includes a threat to “f***** rip off your head you w*****”. It calls him a “sack of “s***” and warns in capital letters: “WE WILL FIND YOU”.
Barnes’s performance has also been questioned by leading New Zealand website RugbyHeaven, which has changed it’s name to RugbyHell since the loss to France.
“This was the Tri-Nations champions against the Six Nations,” wrote Duncan Johnstone. “It was the best team in the world against the tournament hosts on a hugely emotionally occasion. Sounds like it might have needed the best referee in the world. I don’t think we got that person dished up to us.
“And perhaps astute TV commentator and former All Black (and World Cup winner) Grant Fox hit the nail on the head when he suggested that while the French were now moving forward in the competition, Barnes should not.”
– To read the uncensored Wikipedia entry on Barnes click here
– To read Johnstone’s full column on Barnes click here.
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8 Oct 2007, 11:14 am
NZ$1,000? Cheapskates
New Zealand have themselves to blame for allowing the french to break like that without a comfortable lead. Who say’s the French wouldn’t have scored anyway? They sure looked like they would.
Charlie Dempsey comes to mind – sorry 4 u
8 Oct 2007, 11:15 am
Bad losers.
They always have to blame somebody.
In reality they shouldn’t have been in that position. The try that JP saved in the SA game was also preceeded by a HUGE forward pass. Good defense saved us.
Haven’t got time to read through all the posts but if it has been posted here it is:
The difference between Graham Henry and a Viagra is that at least the Viagra will give you a semi.
8 Oct 2007, 11:18 am
What do you call 15 guys sitting at home watching the rugby?
Answer: The All BLacks
8 Oct 2007, 11:19 am
I every one!
I Really feel for the Blacks! I would have liked to see them at least make the semi! Well it happens!
My concern though is how France was allowed to stump on Richie! Fair he was lying on their side but since the IRB (Read NH ********) changed the rule on rucking players away from the ball, NZ were good at lying the ball dead. Just bad for Richie this time the ref felt nothing for that rule and let the French step on him!!!! Clearly there is double standards when this rule is applied! Bet jou 1000 bucks should Schalk or Ali Williams do that sort of thing the bias camera editors of the poor quality tv people would show it 100 times and both be cited out of the WC.
The quality of the picture is just bad and the camera work even worse!!!! Thank goodnes for Supersport!!!
My 10cents worth!
8 Oct 2007, 11:20 am
What do you call 15 guys sitting at home watching the rugby?
Answer: The All BLacks
8 Oct 2007, 11:21 am
On youtube you can watch highlites. I didnt watch the game missed it. But there was no forward pass. The hands was not in ruck. Take the loss AB’S.
8 Oct 2007, 11:22 am
Well, well, imagine being the best team of the year for all but two weeks out of every 4 year cycle, five times…..
8 Oct 2007, 11:24 am
err soory bout the double post and offcourse my condolences to all the AB supporters.
8 Oct 2007, 11:26 am
Ruck, I still think there is a slight difference with Roger Federer. He knows like Pete Sampras knew that his game does not suit clay and I don’t think any amount of training will get him to the same proficiency level as Nadal on clay. So he loses to a superior player on that surface, so what? The AB’s lost to a less skilful team, if results of the past few years are anything to go by, on the day and I for one wish they hadn’t.
8 Oct 2007, 11:28 am
nr 9
There was a forward pass and def hands in ruck!!!
What bowls me over is why not take the drop!???? When attemting pick and drive you expose yourself for hands in, knock ons, coming from the side, even holding on to the ball! Too grey in that part of the game! Swing it wide and score the try!!! Or drop the goal!!!!
8 Oct 2007, 11:30 am
Het nou net die hoogtepunte gesien van die AB vs Franse wedstryd.
Daardie bal van die Franse se laaste drie was so ver vorentoe gewees, amper verder vorentoe as Helgard Muller se pass teen die WP in een of ander CB finaal, of amper so ver vorentoe as die pass wat Chester in die 1998 CB finaal ontvang het.
Jammer dat foute deur die skeidsregter en lynregter die wedstryd vir die AB’s gekos het.
Al die Suid-Afrikaners wat hul so verlekker in die AB’S se verloor, moet maar gou kalm en rustig word.
Ek dink dit sou makliker gewees het om teen die AB’s in die finaal te probeer wen, as teen die Franse.
Dink net hoe eensydig gaan die skare, die ref’s en lynregters dan wees, as ons in Frankryk teen die tuisspan moet wen ?
Ons moet maar hoop die Engelse wen die Franse, anders kom daar groot moeilikheid teen die Franse in die finaal.
Ons moet natuurlik ook eers die Argentyne wen, wat dalk baie engergie gaan vat van ons, en dalk beserings.
Maar alles in alles gesê: as jy ‘n ware kampioen wil wees, moet jy alle omstandighede in ‘n wedstryd kan hanteer, d.w.s. ook ‘n vorentoe aangee teen jou, ‘n onderskepdrie, ‘n geelkaart, ‘n nat veld, ‘n briljante drie teen jou, onverwagse skepskop, swak ref, ongeluk, verkeerde spring van die bal, of wat ookal. Alles is deel van die spel.
Jy moet alles kan hanteer en ook daarvoor voorberei … vra maar vir die S14 kampioene …
Berei vir ALLES voor, ook die slegste scenario en die res sal volg op die veld.
Die volgende 2 weke sal wys wie het vir ALLES voorberei om kampioen te wees
8 Oct 2007, 11:40 am
Ek wil weer daai video kyk youtube kwaliteit sleg. Goeie een alf.
8 Oct 2007, 11:47 am
69
We shouldn’t but we do.
LOL
8 Oct 2007, 11:49 am
Bloody ref, he was a major difference to the game 10-2 penalty count shows that the ref sided with the French if the penalty count went 50/50 we would have won the game.
8 Oct 2007, 11:50 am
Post 98 – Very funny
8 Oct 2007, 11:50 am
Hey guys,
I feel for the AB’s . On form they deserve to be in the final.
BUT.
1) Graham Henry has never been sure of his midfield, If i was him-but I am not.
I would have Mauger and Muliaina at 12 & 13 first-choice pairing. Full stop!
There has been too much chopping and changing.
It does not help to have so-called depth, but no defined starting combinations.
2)Chris Jack is a BMT player, he should have started?
3)Weepu regained his form this year and is experienced. He should have been there.
These are the observations of an armchair critic.
Only my opinion. anybody agree or disagree???
And… Finally.
They cannot complain about Lukes yellow.
They are lucky Keith robinson did not get a RED. He knocked Serge Betsen out with his fist.
Did anybody see that???
8 Oct 2007, 11:54 am
#116 What are you talking about it was a French knee that took out Betson so stop lying or you must have the same eyes as Wayne Barnes….
8 Oct 2007, 11:58 am
Alf
Goeie een. Maar dalk moet jy dit vertaal. Weet nie hoeveel NZ ouens Afrikaans praat nie!
I for one am not going to even think of a final spot until after the Bok game and we actually won. If we play as k@k as we did against Fiji then it will be the pumas in the final. Also, don’t think it will be an automatic French final. They might have had their best game this last weekend and with Wilco the Poms are a different team…
8 Oct 2007, 11:58 am
Agree about Weepu but we don’t know what went on between him and the coaching staff. Very strange that he was omitted in favour of Leonard at the last minute IMO.
If what you said about Robinson punching Betsen is correct then I’d like to hear what cane has to say! He told me last week that NZ doesn’t have any thugs in their team, only hardmen. Punching an opponent off the ball is a clear act of thuggery and blows that one right out of the water!
8 Oct 2007, 11:58 am
disagree about skill level. Frogs have possibly highest individual skill levels of all rugby players anywhere and Nz possibly highest combined skill level, the thing that got nz was in fact the lack of real mental strength when it mattered most and the French refusal to be overcome created the doubt in the minds of the Ab’s which resulted in the capitulatory choke.
8 Oct 2007, 11:59 am
114 – How is a high penalty count the ref’s fault? Surely the AB’s have only their poor discipline to blame. Maybe the French were just very conscious of the dangers of committing stupid mistakes. Just as they made 4 times more tackles, maybe they committed 5 times less fouls. I saw the game, and that was my take on it.
8 Oct 2007, 12:05 pm
120, that is absolute rubbish.
The french are nowhere near the most skilled players in the world. That mantle belongs to the Kiwi’s, Ozzies & islanders.
This **** about the unpredictable french rugby is a historical story. They are no longer the flair filled side they were 10 years ago. They rely on a strong pack & heavy crashball midfielders.
Their only flair comes from Michilak & maybe Chabal. Nyanga occasionaly.
The French will throttle the English not dance around them.
8 Oct 2007, 12:07 pm
The All Blacks are also likely to enter the next World Cup in 2011 as the favorites since they are staging the event.
Imagine the next four years leading up to hosting the tournament. The burden of expectation will only grow heavier.
I see an asthmatic nation.
8 Oct 2007, 12:13 pm
117# Marvinb,
I will stop lying when you stop living in a dream world – CAKE.
while betsen was getting up from the tackle, Keith Robinson came flying into the ruck with his right arm outstretched, fist clenched, into Betsens face. That is when he went down.
8 Oct 2007, 12:14 pm
One thing to remember is the ref does not sit in the commentary box or in the studio watching replays.
The pass to Michalek was a very short pass and it is possible the ref did not even see the ball during the pass. Even the touch judge didn’t see the forward pass!
That been said the All Blacks had every chance to win that game and the only reason they lost is the same reason why they lost 91,95,99,03 and that’s public expectation in New Zealand.
The NZ fans are to blame. You only have to read the predictions of ex-All Blacks on the NZ Herald website to see that they simply don’t think the All Blacks had any chance of been beaten. The only New Zealander who was cautious in his assessment of New Zealand’s chances was Robbie Deans. The rest of the country thought the team only needed to show up to win.
So before you blame the ref, or Suzie or whatever perhaps you kiwi fans should blame yourselves. You are the only common denominator over the last 5 losses.
8 Oct 2007, 12:15 pm
#121 I guess you havent played rugby because both teams especially at a high level will push the limit..your saying that from 48 matches under G.Henry winning 42 that they are an ill disciplined team and this one ref gets it right and all the other refs dont your kidding yourself I only want a ref who is fair and not one eyed its 50/50 penalty count we must have saw the wrong game.The French are not angels they infringe like any other team.and with 72% of the pill surely penalties should have come our way.
8 Oct 2007, 12:16 pm
On current evidence (meaning the world cup thusfar) the best flyhalf in the business isn’t Dan Carter or his understudy, Nick Evans. It’s not Bernie Larkham or his understudy, Barnes. It’s not even Wilko or our own Butch.
For me it’s a toss-up between Michalak and Hernandez. Both of those guys offer sublime skills and a touch of rare unpredictability.
I’d wash Loffie’s car for 5 years if he managed to get Hernandez to come and play for the Lions.
8 Oct 2007, 12:17 pm
#122 I disagree that the Aussies are any more skillful than the Boks or France for that matter. What they are is very disciplined (Saturday being the exception) at what they do. They can take the ball through many phases then pounce when the defence has a weakness. They are smart players and well drilled – don’t think they are the most skillful though.
8 Oct 2007, 12:18 pm
blac-marc,What rubbish. your delusional Keith Robinson still would have been sited by now but you have x-ray eyes where no one else saw it.
8 Oct 2007, 12:20 pm
the entire french back row and their backline from half backs to wings and full back are better more individually skilled than the ab’s or islanders no guestion, you can believe what you like but if the french could string together the cohesion of the ab’s consistently they would remain unbeatable
8 Oct 2007, 12:20 pm
Ok, I will have a look at it again just to be sure.
Give me 5 mins.
8 Oct 2007, 12:20 pm
the entire french back row and their backline from half backs to wings and full back are better more individually skilled than the ab’s or islanders no guestion, you can believe what you like but if the french could string together the cohesion of the ab’s consistently they would remain unbeatable
8 Oct 2007, 12:21 pm
My view on it is really just that it is sad that a country that loves rugby as much as NZ does, does not have a vested interest in the tournament anymore. Just think if SA had been knocked out what they would have meant to us.
8 Oct 2007, 12:21 pm
126 – Please just stop whining about your loss. It’s embarrassing. Be a man, for once.
I saw the game. And I’m completely impartial. And I thought the ref got it right most of the time. Wrong calls went both ways. The AB’s should have been pinged more for holding on, specially after Chabal came on. He competed strongly on his feet but often the AB’s ended up with a scrum. And I saw more AB passes floating forward than French passes. Only difference is, they didn’t lead to tries.
So, for the sake of your countrymen, have a little dignity here.
8 Oct 2007, 12:22 pm
#125 your right maybe the All Black fans are overly expectant but thats our team and I guess we can do what we want.
8 Oct 2007, 12:23 pm
Marvinb dry your eyes and stop going on about the ref. Take a leaf out of your captain’s book and take the defeat on the chin. You just make yourself look sad whining on about the ref 2 days after the event. It happens, you win some you lose some. God knows those that follow the Boks have had to put up with their fair share of kak refereeing decisions for a long time now, it’s time you took a bite of the big sh*t sandwich for a change!
8 Oct 2007, 12:24 pm
Just want to Reply on a artical keo wrote last week. On french beating ab, England beating Ausies. Anything is possible. Keo you where right on the dot.
8 Oct 2007, 12:29 pm
#134 please be impartial, because you certainly arent, you wouldnt have a clue what game you saw maybe you need to be a man and dont be ignorant to what the truth is do not belittle your countryman by being a french supporter otherwise you would not have commented to my opinion.
8 Oct 2007, 12:30 pm
Hinton’s article was based on JWs post match interviews… and there’s no way in hell he was having a dig… he responded truthfully to some leading questions… but was hardly rubbing salt in the wounds as Hinton would have everyone believe…
Guess Hinton’s just trying to create a target to deflect the criticism of the ABs.
BTW… I think they’re insane to get rid of Henry… He’s lost how many matches in four years…??? If they kept Henry, and the bulk of the team together… they would be unstoppable in NZ in 2011… !!
(Until they meet the Boks in the final of course…!!!)
8 Oct 2007, 12:32 pm
marvinb, would you like to actually see the Betsen incident?
It reaks me out that the boks are always made out to be thugs. all the other teams play “hard” but we are labelled as dirty players.
8 Oct 2007, 12:34 pm
Betsen was KOd by the knee of a French player…
8 Oct 2007, 12:35 pm
Freaks me out… sorry.
8 Oct 2007, 12:35 pm
I would like to see this incident, is it posted anywhere on you-tube? From the TV replays I saw it was very hard to see what happened. If there was a AB punch in there it certainly needs to be taken further.
Betsen certainly suffered from the incident and it could have ended alot worse…
8 Oct 2007, 12:36 pm
Unfortunately Henry will be the fall-guy for the NZRU because they gave him exactly what he wanted on the basis that it would help deliver the holy grail of trophies. The fact that it didn’t means that he will be sacked, if you set yourself high standards (and Henry certainly does) you expect to be judged accordingly. The ABs will be a formidable force regardless of who is coaching them, hell I’d fancy my chances of being a winner with the pool of talent available in NZ!!
8 Oct 2007, 12:36 pm
Johnnymain you must be use to crying because I know the All Blacks have probably dealt to your country enough times in the last 80 years so sad too bad.Who the ex All black captain he should be sacked just like the coach.
8 Oct 2007, 12:37 pm
What happened to that well known vomit stain, known to this blog as ‘THE TACKLER’.
I would so like to hear more of his rugby wisdom.
8 Oct 2007, 12:37 pm
Oh please UFO, I am not trying to stir.
I was hoping for a NZ / Bok final.
The REALITY is that Keith Robinson knocked Serge out. It is so clear if you watch it again -without blinkers.
I have just looked at it. In slow-mo it is less obvious, but in real-time, as Serge is getting up, robinson flies in and serge goes down.
8 Oct 2007, 12:38 pm
All I want to say is that after the Italy-NZ game I said “I don’t think that boy will be getting any more reffing opportunities at this World Cup”…and then along comes the Tonga-Bok game and he was just as bad…and then they give him the most crucial of the 1/4′s to botch up.
At the end of the game I fully started believing the conspiracys about the IRB ensueing the Frogs get to the finals.
But it doesn’t really matter now, we needed to be better than what ever the ref could throw at us, we needed to execute that master plan that we all thought was going to be revealed in the playoffs but actually was as much a myth as the AB’s superhuman-ness, and we weren’t and we didn’t.
At least poor Georgie isn’t gonna say 4 more years to us this time
And it seems the nation feels sad for Richie and Henry and co rather than calling for their heads on platters, as we were an embarassment last time.
Good luck to either SA or the Argies.
8 Oct 2007, 12:38 pm
139. Totally agree with you. The only way to build mental strength is to overcome adversity.
Firing coaches, re-evaluating players that is not the way to go and wont help them in 2011.
8 Oct 2007, 12:41 pm
I dont feel the least bit sorry for the Aussies…For all the ridicule,the “Percy’s”,brontosauraus rugby comments,The Clyde Rathbones,cheating,Dunning hero worship,spin doctoring,bitter expats etc….
This couldnt be sweeter….Im in heaven..
I feel for the All Blacks though,best assembled squad in the modern era,50 million spent on preparation…CHOKED….Must be heart wrenching
Go BOKKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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