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		<title>By: DEE DAH</title>
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		<dc:creator>DEE DAH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 07:08:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PDV is just as qualified as Jake was and deserves to be given every opportunity to succeed. SARU have given him a 2 year contract so if they have got it wrong they have time to fix it.
Heynecke&#039;s big mistake was that he said he would quit if not picked. SARU has had 4 years of battles with Jake White and I am sure when HM started calling the shots at the interview stage a number of Presidents were put off.
Personally my choice was Heynecke but having said that for 3 years I wanted John Smit dropped for Gary Botha and we all know how that turned out.
Good luck Pieter!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PDV is just as qualified as Jake was and deserves to be given every opportunity to succeed. SARU have given him a 2 year contract so if they have got it wrong they have time to fix it.<br />
Heynecke&#8217;s big mistake was that he said he would quit if not picked. SARU has had 4 years of battles with Jake White and I am sure when HM started calling the shots at the interview stage a number of Presidents were put off.<br />
Personally my choice was Heynecke but having said that for 3 years I wanted John Smit dropped for Gary Botha and we all know how that turned out.<br />
Good luck Pieter!</p>
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		<title>By: who cares</title>
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		<dc:creator>who cares</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 06:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tacitus jumped.</description>
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		<title>By: bodisgod</title>
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		<dc:creator>bodisgod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 06:08:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>God but some of you people are pathetic. It&#039;s bad enough that PdV is undermined by his own union in more or less the same breath that his appointment is announced - was it really necessary to say his skin was a factor - but the knee-jerk crapola from people who can&#039;t see the racism inherent in condemning the man before he&#039;s even out of the blocks only serves to show why transformation is so necessary. 

As others have pointed out, JW wasn&#039;t exactly man of the moment when he was appointed. The Bulls-types didn&#039;t want him either because they&#039;re too busy thinking they own rugby and banging on about reverse racism to see over the kraal fence. That The Freedom Front P*es has entered the fray sums it all up really. 

I wish PdV every success in what must be the toughest job in world rugby. It&#039;s a thankless task - and all the more so when fans bay for your blood and call you a spanner before you&#039;ve even had one match. 

Nice one guys. Just keep on with proving why the old racism chestnut isn&#039;t going to go away any time soon. Those getting their jocks in a knot about this are too thick to see that they&#039;re as much a part of the problem as any of the ANC conspiracies they hold so dearly to their chest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God but some of you people are pathetic. It&#8217;s bad enough that PdV is undermined by his own union in more or less the same breath that his appointment is announced &#8211; was it really necessary to say his skin was a factor &#8211; but the knee-jerk crapola from people who can&#8217;t see the racism inherent in condemning the man before he&#8217;s even out of the blocks only serves to show why transformation is so necessary. </p>
<p>As others have pointed out, JW wasn&#8217;t exactly man of the moment when he was appointed. The Bulls-types didn&#8217;t want him either because they&#8217;re too busy thinking they own rugby and banging on about reverse racism to see over the kraal fence. That The Freedom Front P*es has entered the fray sums it all up really. </p>
<p>I wish PdV every success in what must be the toughest job in world rugby. It&#8217;s a thankless task &#8211; and all the more so when fans bay for your blood and call you a spanner before you&#8217;ve even had one match. </p>
<p>Nice one guys. Just keep on with proving why the old racism chestnut isn&#8217;t going to go away any time soon. Those getting their jocks in a knot about this are too thick to see that they&#8217;re as much a part of the problem as any of the ANC conspiracies they hold so dearly to their chest.</p>
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		<title>By: sean123</title>
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		<dc:creator>sean123</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 03:30:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no, the worst thing would be loosing to England in a Quarter final!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no, the worst thing would be loosing to England in a Quarter final!</p>
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		<title>By: SAussie</title>
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		<dc:creator>SAussie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 02:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>come on guys, whats the worst thing that can happen, 49-0</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>come on guys, whats the worst thing that can happen, 49-0</p>
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		<title>By: cab</title>
		<link>http://www.keo.co.za/2008/01/09/coach-decision-not-on-rugby-credentials-alone/#comment-724411</link>
		<dc:creator>cab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 21:16:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>unlike you i have not wished anyone&#039;s demise, but the proof is in the pudding and not many are going to be thrilled if an RWC squad is carved up with poor results from a SARU appointment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>unlike you i have not wished anyone&#8217;s demise, but the proof is in the pudding and not many are going to be thrilled if an RWC squad is carved up with poor results from a SARU appointment.</p>
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		<title>By: wallabie.</title>
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		<dc:creator>wallabie.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 21:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>johm = john</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>johm = john</p>
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		<title>By: wallabie.</title>
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		<dc:creator>wallabie.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 21:09:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to jolt your memories!

Johm ONeill said he will not accept any second rate side from any nation.

He has a foreskin as well as foresight!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to jolt your memories!</p>
<p>Johm ONeill said he will not accept any second rate side from any nation.</p>
<p>He has a foreskin as well as foresight!</p>
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		<title>By: skopskiet</title>
		<link>http://www.keo.co.za/2008/01/09/coach-decision-not-on-rugby-credentials-alone/#comment-724400</link>
		<dc:creator>skopskiet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 20:43:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aah little cabbage patch, so you already wishing the mans demise, good on you, as for your exalted one you know just exactly what I think of that two faced twat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aah little cabbage patch, so you already wishing the mans demise, good on you, as for your exalted one you know just exactly what I think of that two faced twat.</p>
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		<title>By: bloubulsd</title>
		<link>http://www.keo.co.za/2008/01/09/coach-decision-not-on-rugby-credentials-alone/#comment-724379</link>
		<dc:creator>bloubulsd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 20:12:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is why I left South Africa, not because DeVilliers is black but because the better man does not get the job.
Heyneke has transformed Bulls rugby, brought it into the professional era. He has been key in setting up the structures and processes at the Bulls. In actual fact he is a great business man, equivalent to a director or Vice Presedint of a company. Guiding the people in the company with his experience and making sure that he doesn&#039;t have to be there to micro manage.


This is what you need in a truly great leader.

Devilliers is just a coach, nothing compared to Heyneke, yet De Villiers gets the job.

Nothing against De Villiers but Screw South Africa!

Hopefully Heyneke comes back to the Bulls now!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is why I left South Africa, not because DeVilliers is black but because the better man does not get the job.<br />
Heyneke has transformed Bulls rugby, brought it into the professional era. He has been key in setting up the structures and processes at the Bulls. In actual fact he is a great business man, equivalent to a director or Vice Presedint of a company. Guiding the people in the company with his experience and making sure that he doesn&#8217;t have to be there to micro manage.</p>
<p>This is what you need in a truly great leader.</p>
<p>Devilliers is just a coach, nothing compared to Heyneke, yet De Villiers gets the job.</p>
<p>Nothing against De Villiers but Screw South Africa!</p>
<p>Hopefully Heyneke comes back to the Bulls now!</p>
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		<title>By: cab</title>
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		<dc:creator>cab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 19:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>skopskiet, 
and dont forget your right honorable self. 

well the boks have got your man as coach, salt of the earth, true south african and all the other horsemanue that emanates from your fingers...the proof is in the pudding so to speak. oh yes, we shall now see.   no more white, no excuses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>skopskiet,<br />
and dont forget your right honorable self. </p>
<p>well the boks have got your man as coach, salt of the earth, true south african and all the other horsemanue that emanates from your fingers&#8230;the proof is in the pudding so to speak. oh yes, we shall now see.   no more white, no excuses.</p>
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		<title>By: SjamBok</title>
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		<dc:creator>SjamBok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 19:09:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A good point was made by a black poster on this site the otherday.  A white coach - even with the best intentions- may not be able to relate to black players well enough for them to feel comfortable playing for him.  So maybe a coloured coach will be able to relate to both black and white players, and maybe this will allow both black and white players to perform to their full potential.  Just a theory. I hope so.  

Matfield has said in the press before that he has no objection to playing for PdV.  So stop your stupid debate please.  Besides, matfield is a professional, and proud of his country - of course he would play.  But will the PC let him if he plays for Toulon?

I just hope that Pieter has the humility and grace to call in experienced guys like Jake and Meyer and the rest of the S14 coaches like Muir to get advice from different perspectives - it can make all the difference, and a problem that looks big from one perspective can be diminished by looking at it from another angle. I think he is a smart enough guy to do that though.  I alo hope that they hire Meyer as director of rugby.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A good point was made by a black poster on this site the otherday.  A white coach &#8211; even with the best intentions- may not be able to relate to black players well enough for them to feel comfortable playing for him.  So maybe a coloured coach will be able to relate to both black and white players, and maybe this will allow both black and white players to perform to their full potential.  Just a theory. I hope so.  </p>
<p>Matfield has said in the press before that he has no objection to playing for PdV.  So stop your stupid debate please.  Besides, matfield is a professional, and proud of his country &#8211; of course he would play.  But will the PC let him if he plays for Toulon?</p>
<p>I just hope that Pieter has the humility and grace to call in experienced guys like Jake and Meyer and the rest of the S14 coaches like Muir to get advice from different perspectives &#8211; it can make all the difference, and a problem that looks big from one perspective can be diminished by looking at it from another angle. I think he is a smart enough guy to do that though.  I alo hope that they hire Meyer as director of rugby.</p>
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		<title>By: skopskiet</title>
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		<dc:creator>skopskiet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 18:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its kind of a pleasure to have two, no three, level headed and objective thinking bloggers on here similtanously Tassies, Stodders and Pietman, quite a rare pleasure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its kind of a pleasure to have two, no three, level headed and objective thinking bloggers on here similtanously Tassies, Stodders and Pietman, quite a rare pleasure.</p>
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		<title>By: cab</title>
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		<dc:creator>cab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 17:52:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes, good player chilliboy, lobberts might feature too, but they are not the best in their position, they are also too young and inexperienced.  Lobberts is competing again Juan Smith and chilliboy against John Smit and Bismarck, both have considerably more exp.

REally depends if SA want to win test matches in 2008.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes, good player chilliboy, lobberts might feature too, but they are not the best in their position, they are also too young and inexperienced.  Lobberts is competing again Juan Smith and chilliboy against John Smit and Bismarck, both have considerably more exp.</p>
<p>REally depends if SA want to win test matches in 2008.</p>
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		<title>By: TASSIES</title>
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		<dc:creator>TASSIES</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 17:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>there&#039;s also a young 20 year old flyhalf playing WP under 21 who&#039;s not half bad. Ricardo Croy in the right hands has the potential to go very far. Good pedigree too. They&#039;re out there if one is looking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there&#8217;s also a young 20 year old flyhalf playing WP under 21 who&#8217;s not half bad. Ricardo Croy in the right hands has the potential to go very far. Good pedigree too. They&#8217;re out there if one is looking.</p>
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		<title>By: TASSIES</title>
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		<dc:creator>TASSIES</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 17:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>there&#039;s Chilliboy too. Lot of nurturing maybe but he&#039;s there. The run-on IX is going to be a bit tricky for now but in 12 months we should see a gradual changing of the guard. Guys get injured.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there&#8217;s Chilliboy too. Lot of nurturing maybe but he&#8217;s there. The run-on IX is going to be a bit tricky for now but in 12 months we should see a gradual changing of the guard. Guys get injured.</p>
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		<title>By: KWAGGA ROBERTSE</title>
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		<dc:creator>KWAGGA ROBERTSE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 17:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hoskins&#039;s comment today made the hot seat even hotter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hoskins&#8217;s comment today made the hot seat even hotter.</p>
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		<title>By: cab</title>
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		<dc:creator>cab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 17:36:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>poor old meiskiekind, one of the best dummy passes in the game, dummies the oppo by passing to the linesman at least once per game, thats called thinking out of the box.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>poor old meiskiekind, one of the best dummy passes in the game, dummies the oppo by passing to the linesman at least once per game, thats called thinking out of the box.</p>
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		<title>By: TASSIES</title>
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		<dc:creator>TASSIES</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 17:35:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>okay. I&#039;ll put money on Alastair being re-appointed backline coach. Can&#039;t say yet who will coach the forwards because that depends on personal decisions by some of the obvious candidates. If I&#039;m right,then the WC squad will remain relatively unchanged. We are also likely to see that young Bulls fullback enter the frame and Conrad Jantjes. Both are outstanding players. Need nurturing and game time though. We will also see a bit more of Hylton lobberts(our petulant youngster).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>okay. I&#8217;ll put money on Alastair being re-appointed backline coach. Can&#8217;t say yet who will coach the forwards because that depends on personal decisions by some of the obvious candidates. If I&#8217;m right,then the WC squad will remain relatively unchanged. We are also likely to see that young Bulls fullback enter the frame and Conrad Jantjes. Both are outstanding players. Need nurturing and game time though. We will also see a bit more of Hylton lobberts(our petulant youngster).</p>
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		<title>By: cab</title>
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		<dc:creator>cab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 17:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yip fair enough on those three, thought u meant from run-on XV.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yip fair enough on those three, thought u meant from run-on XV.</p>
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