Meyer’s consolation prize
9 Jan 2008
Saru president Regan Hoskins says Heyneke Meyer will not be lost to South African rugby.
Meyer, with a Super 14 and four Currie Cup titles to his name, was by far the most qualified candidate to replace Jake White. Hoskins admitted that the appointment of Peter de Villiers was not made on rugby criteria alone and that transformation played a part.
The president said he hoped Meyer, who resigned as Bulls coach last year, could be kept in the South African rugby system.
“The President’s Council spent a lot of time in the meeting today discussing Heyneke,” Hoskins said. “We don’t want to lose his experience and want to keep him involved.
“One possibility, and I must stress it’s just a possibility, is for Heyneke to become SA Rugby’s Director of High Performance. There’s been a call in the past for a [director of rugby-type] position to be created that will benefit all SA Rugby coaches [including the Bok coach].”
Meyer could also replace Gert Smal as the Bok forwards coach if he’s willing to work with De Villiers. Meyer was last involved with the national side when Nick Mallett was head coach.
By Simon Borchardt at Newlands
207 Comments
9 Jan 2008, 15:25 pm
I think Heyneke will kiss SA rugby goodbye which is probably a good thing.
9 Jan 2008, 15:28 pm
What a load of ****!!!
There is a few positions open as coach at primary schools in PTA and maybe he can apply for that – all depand on the shortlist!!
9 Jan 2008, 15:32 pm
weti
say it again, i didn’t catch it the 1st 6 times.
HM pak jou tassies en gaan kry vir jou `n job waar jy lekker pond kry en nie met `n klomp politieke kuk opgeskeep sit nie!
9 Jan 2008, 15:32 pm
I doubt Heyneke will want to be part of the set-up now. Just when we think that we’re slowly moving away from the whole transformation issue and things are more being done on merit, our formidable PC come up with this decision. I read that people are comparing this to when Jake was picked as coach. Jake was the best of a very sad bunch and he was only added later on.
I also do not agree with giving the Bok coach a two year contract. You pick the best person and back him to do the job for four years. What exactly would Pieter’s criteria be to get an extention?
The only job now for Meyer within SA is to be the Director of Rugby. The position itself should not be up for discussion. It should have been established together with the appointment of the Bok coach.
9 Jan 2008, 15:35 pm
The logical decision would have been to appoint HM as coach and PdV as one of his assistants.
9 Jan 2008, 15:38 pm
Let’s see how Pieter does as the new Bok coach before getting too emotional.
If he doesnt perform he will be fired. If he does perform i hope everyone who gave him grief will be man enough to eat some humble pie.
9 Jan 2008, 15:39 pm
If Heyneke believes very, very, strongly in SA rugby then he will wait another four years and apply for the Bok job again. I do believe, however, that SARU has effectively chased away the second best coach in SA…
The one thing that really pisses me off about PdV is that everyone keeps on saying he proved himself by coaching the Emerging Boks to victory.. Bloody hell, has anyone even bothered to look at the quality of the opposition they faced in that tournament? Even the Valke would have won that easily!!
9 Jan 2008, 15:42 pm
scavenger
His record as SA U21 coach was even better than Jake’s.
He also won the U19 tournament with the Baby Boks.
9 Jan 2008, 15:43 pm
SARU quickly forgot about Jake, so they should have no problem doing the same with Meyer.
9 Jan 2008, 15:47 pm
Haaallloooo Manne…
HM moes die coach geword het!!! Ek sal maar nou vir PdV support jong…
Mirag ou Weti…
Hoe gaan dinge daar in Vistaria. Ek was die naweek daar by my suster jong. Cousin is mos geban deur ons webmastertjie!!!
9 Jan 2008, 15:48 pm
Heyneke will not accept a position as Director of Rugby. He was prepared to move down to the Cape if he got the Bok job because he really really wants to be Bok coach!
Bamber, I agree with you that we need to wait and see how PdV does, but the biggest problem I have with this is that Springboks, and not SARU, the PC or even PdV, have just lost thousands of supporters who will not support the Boks purely of this stupid decision! And, to be honest, it is white people who are filling the stands at the rugby matches. Bloemfontein is going to be empty come June, where it actually was supposed to be filled up completely with rugby fans who are proud of the World Champion Springboks!
9 Jan 2008, 15:50 pm
Suck it up.
PDV is coach, now get on with your lives. You can sit around all day and make your comments, but it won’t change a thing.
Fact is PDV needs to coach the team, if he fails he’s out if he succeeds we all win.
He did not pick himself so give the guy a chance. It’s a pity about Heyneke, but hey life’s not always fair is it.
9 Jan 2008, 15:50 pm
Just be grateful they didn’t have a moment of insanity and appoint Chester!
Too late now for “What Could Have Been” about Heyneke. De Villiers is our coach and us Bok supporters are now behind him!
9 Jan 2008, 15:53 pm
scavenger,
I agree with you, but if PdV wins games he will be supported. That is how SA people/fans are!!! We all want a winning team, no matter the colour of the coach or the players.
9 Jan 2008, 15:54 pm
18 – Love your work.
9 Jan 2008, 15:55 pm
WPW, as far as I know he did not coach the U/19 baby boks (the tournament held in Durbs)!
How many times did Jake coach the U/21 side? Only twice if I’m not mistaken?
WPW, on rugby credentials, who would you have picked?
9 Jan 2008, 15:57 pm
Did anyone really expect anything other than a transformation appointment? Meyer was last choice, never 1st! Affirmitaive action BEE was always the way they were going, read the press!
Time for us all to pack up and go…..
9 Jan 2008, 15:57 pm
Did anyone really expect anything other than a transformation appointment? Meyer was last choice, never 1st! Affirmitaive action BEE was always the way they were going, read the press!
Time for us all to pack up and go…..
9 Jan 2008, 15:58 pm
#18 MarkMyWord,
Waar moer jy nou uit die bus uit??
9 Jan 2008, 16:00 pm
varkbal
dog jy het gaan golf speel?
9 Jan 2008, 16:01 pm
#24 AKQJ10
Kom ons gee die man n kans… Ek is net so die moer in, maar nou jaaa!!!!!
HM was die obvious choice if it was rugby achievements that were considered…
9 Jan 2008, 16:05 pm
Haaallloooo Trupi,
Nee ek wou maar dit reen moer erg hier in PTA… Die bane is in elke geval toe broer. Ek, my pa, swaer en Gurthro speel Sondag weer. Sal dalk n 18 of 9 gaatjies nog deur die week in werk… Wat dink jy van ons nuwe coach??
9 Jan 2008, 16:06 pm
Why should Heyneke hang around – if they are not prepared to elect him this time one merit – why would they do it in future?!
Just been reading Gavin Rich’s article on Supersport, if the rumours are true then Pieter has done remarkable compromising to get the job (I use the word compromising losely).
Last I read he wanted 10 non-whites in the team, didn’t mind losing tests and wanted Luke as his captain….
Rock on South Africa!
9 Jan 2008, 16:06 pm
Does this mean Vic is thrashing out a new contract with Toulon?
9 Jan 2008, 16:06 pm
Redman – what can I say
hangbal – Al wat ek se is dit help nie jy breek jou kop oor die besluite van die PC nie want dit baat niks. Tough een vir Heyneke, ek stem, maar tyd sal se of PDV die ding kan doen. Ek het nou al ouens gehoor wat se hulle gaan nou nie meer die bokke support nie en al die soort goed omdat PDV coach is. Punt is ek bly n bok ek support die bokke en ek support die coach. As hy strooi aanvang moet hy waai.
9 Jan 2008, 16:07 pm
Grow up. This job is not Heyneke’s birthright.Just as in every other appointment in SA, transformation must play a role.
9 Jan 2008, 16:07 pm
Pieter, Pieter jy het dit gedoen ou maat. Die snoek loop nie verniet dik innie Kaap in nie. Glo nie hy kan so vrot doen soos Jake in sy 2 middelste jare van bokafrigting. Hy was n kans gegee en het ons almal vekeerd bewys. So shut the *** up. Ek se almal se moere behalwe Pieter s,n totdat hy ons wys hoe lyk sy eerste spankeuse.
9 Jan 2008, 16:09 pm
hangbal
nie te impressed dat dit `n politiese besluit was nie maar ek hoop hom alle voorspeod toe.
Ek gee nie om of my tuinjong se skaapwagterseun in die transkei hulle afrig nie solank hulle standaarde dieselfde (en hopelik beter) bly.
The proof is in the pudding so ons sal maar sien wanneer hy sy 1ste span kies en kyk of hulle kan perform.
9 Jan 2008, 16:11 pm
MarkMyWords,
Nee jy het dit verkeerd. Nie in een van my posts het ekl my kop gebreek oor die nuwe coach nie!!! Sal maar by die tietkop staan en hoop hy doen goed vir Bok rugby se sake!!!
WP-Matador,
Iets se vir my jy is gelukkig soos n vark in kuk!!!
9 Jan 2008, 16:12 pm
matador
**** oppie radio die manne bring so 300-400 snoek per boot in.
PS: Almal se moere behalwe Pieter EN MYNE !!!
9 Jan 2008, 16:13 pm
Nee ou Trupi ek stem saam… Hoop net ons standaarde bly dieselfde en skuif op as world champs!!
9 Jan 2008, 16:13 pm
January 2009.
Heynecke Meyer is coaching in England.
Jake White is reappointed as Bok coach with Chezzie as his assistant.
9 Jan 2008, 16:14 pm
Julle manne moet ophou van snoek praat, julle het gesien wat met Cousin, GBS, Katman en Dawn gebeur het!!!
9 Jan 2008, 16:15 pm
WP-Matador : jy klink nou soos n tipiese capie-geen wonder nie-lol
9 Jan 2008, 16:17 pm
Truth is….I’m happy to have PdV now as coach rather than the 2 years leading to the WC. This 10 player of colour thing was blown out of proportion. PdV will not find 10 players of colour that can compete on Int level in SA and he knows it.
Give the man a chance. He was successful preciously and deserve a chance.
The next 4 shortlisted candidates for bok coach in 2 years time will read as follows: H Meyer, D Muir, R Erasmus and wait for it………..Fester Williams!!!!!!!!!!!!
9 Jan 2008, 16:17 pm
#34 Ek kan ook nie wag vir sy 1e Springbok span nie!
Een van my vriende was in die Baby Boks span wat aan die U/21 Champs in Frankryk deelgeneem het met PdV as coach, en hy se die man is glad nie n slegte coach nie! Blykbaar BAIE streng! Kom ons wag en kyk maar… Springbok kaptein gaan nogal n issue wees..
9 Jan 2008, 16:17 pm
ek wonder of PDV trots voel om te weet hy het die pos gekry slegs op grond van sy velkleur.
nogal verbaas hoskins erken dit.
9 Jan 2008, 16:18 pm
HM moet maar sy lemoene vat en oorsee gaan coach waar hy waardeur gaan word. Nog kennis vir SA rugby verlore soos JW en Nick Mallet!!!
9 Jan 2008, 16:18 pm
Scavenger,
When Jake White was appointed exactly 5 years ago with a carbon copy CV like De Villiers has currently.
Not a single white person said anything but since its a black person, its doom and gloom and all not in the name of merit but transformation.
To me, merit for black people and white people is not the same !!!
When Carel Du plessis, Nick Mallett, Strauli were Bok coaches, what silverware did they both achieve as coaches at the time of appointment , absolutely nothing.
A guy like Frans Ludeke can be given a chance time and time again having failed so badly before, because he is w#t#e,
A guy like Kobus van der Merwe, Carel Du Plessis given the opportunity to coach Stormers and fail dismally, because they are w#t#e,
Whether you like it or not,
• Peter De Villiers is Bok coach
• Don’t discount Luke Watson being captain.
No-one has questioned SARU wisdom of giving Peter only a two year contract while Jake White was given a full 4 year contract, isn’t there a touch of mistrust and racism ?
9 Jan 2008, 16:19 pm
Is Meyer really “by far the most qualified candidate to replace Jake White” ?
I do not think so – Meyer only claim to success is winning a couple of Currie Cup titles in a very weak and watered down Currie Cup, yes that is right the Currie Cup for the past 10 years is not the same Currie Cup that it was in the 80′s and early 90′s so his so called experience in CC rugby can be brushed aside.
The HM won a S14 – that was pure luck on his side and he can say thanks Habana who actually won it for the Bulls. How long did it take him to get to the S1
9 Jan 2008, 16:19 pm
HaLLooooo Isigidi my vriend,
Lanklaas van jou gehoor. Hoe lyk dinge my ou maat??
9 Jan 2008, 16:21 pm
Where is Tacitus? he had been forwarding Meyer’s case for quite some time now.
Anyway, from what I’ve heard De Villiers is supposed to be a fair man so I expect every success for the Springboks.
9 Jan 2008, 16:22 pm
#46
An I suppose you think PdV is a better coach than that. Don’t look at the CC and S14 trophee’s that he won, look at the rugby structure from a junior level that he implimented at the Bulls!!!
No knowlwdge is dangerous knowledge my friend!!!
9 Jan 2008, 16:22 pm
Is Meyer really “by far the most qualified candidate to replace Jake White” ?
I do not think so – Meyer only claim to success is winning a couple of Currie Cup titles in a very weak and watered down Currie Cup (count the amount of teams in turmoil)Yes that is right the Currie Cup for the past 10 years is not the same Currie Cup that it was in the 80′s and early 90′s so his so called experience in CC rugby can be brushed aside.
The HM won a S14 – that was pure luck on his side and he can say thanks to Habana who actually won it for the Bulls. How long did it take him to get to the S14 finals? Compare his record to that of **** Muir who achieved success immediatly in the S14 – the Sharks and **** Muis were unlucky not win the S14.
9 Jan 2008, 16:27 pm
Hangbal
Is n snormossel (spesies gbsidae, Cousininae)familie van die snoekglewe(Spesie Dawnoidiae) wat verban is?
9 Jan 2008, 16:27 pm
Sir Watson
You serious, Luke Watson the Bok captain?
I have nothing against Pieter, I think he is a good coach.
He must just not take any sh#t from Stofile, Cheeky, Harold Verster and all those other po#phols at the PC.
Just get on with the job, that’s all.
9 Jan 2008, 16:29 pm
O,ja hangbal die snormossel kom in Tswane voor en is varswater, Dawnidiae aan Bonteheuwel kant van Kaapse kus
9 Jan 2008, 16:30 pm
We should just accept JdV’s appointment and see how he manages. A two year contract should be more than eneough time for him to work with the “World Champions” and to demonstrate what he is capable off. If it all goes well then great, but if it goes “pear-shaped” then that will still leave two years to correct any perceived deficiencies. Remember, it only takes 6-12 months to prepare a World Cup winning team. Look and the finalists for the last tournament. Despite the propaganda to the contrary, Jake’s team was a shambles with only twelve months to go, and England’s team didn’t really come together until the quater finals. Remember, a major test match playing nation only has to win three big games to win a World Cup.
9 Jan 2008, 16:31 pm
Hallo Hangbal. Hoe hang die balle vandag?
Cheer up ou maat. Ten minste praat die couch afrikaans my broer.
Ek dink Pieter se eerste oproep was aan Jake W en dit het so iets geklink.
JW: Hallo
PdV: Hêlo Jake, dis ekke, Peter!
JW: Peter who?
PdV: Peter de Vlliers my ou, is true, djou successor!
JW: Hi Pieter, what can I do for you and congratulations with the appointment.
PdV: Naai my broe, ek wou net wiet, sal djy my tjommie wees?
9 Jan 2008, 16:32 pm
Happy New year everyone (I know it’s the 9th.
The Circus hasn’t wasted any time getting started.
I thought HM had been guaranteed the job, a few days before the WC final.
9 Jan 2008, 16:32 pm
Now it just depends on Heyneke Meyer, and my prediction will be correct:
Head Coach: Peter de Villiers
Forwards Coach: Heyneke Meyer
Backs Coach: Allister Coetzee
But people north of the Jukskei refused to believe me…
9 Jan 2008, 16:33 pm
buurman
JW se antwoord : Be afraid, be very afraid! trust no one, not even your poodle!
9 Jan 2008, 16:33 pm
Pieter sing al klaar die regte, realistiese tune.
Kyk daai ander thread (‘Peter preaches…’), niks het verander nie.
Ons gaat aan.
9 Jan 2008, 16:33 pm
Why does everyone suddenly think Peter de Villiers is a kuk coach?
Go and read some objective reports about him, look at his successful track record – and don’t believe everything J.J. Harms writes.
9 Jan 2008, 16:34 pm
What is this ’2 year contract’ story I hear?
Has Peter only been appointed for 2 years?
Why?
9 Jan 2008, 16:35 pm
JJ Harms is a twat
9 Jan 2008, 16:35 pm
HM supposedly a superior coach to PdV was a S14 coach for years and years and only made it to 1 S14 final that reads 1 title in 6 attempts (incidently the same as the All Black’s win record in RWC’s)
PdV like his predecessor Jake White was coching the u21 team to u21 RWC gold medals, just like Jake was doing.
Give HM a ribbon for coming 2nd as a consolation prize.
9 Jan 2008, 16:36 pm
JJ Harmse weet bokkerol man.
9 Jan 2008, 16:36 pm
JJ wat vi die Bulle skryf sit nou in Weskoppies
9 Jan 2008, 16:37 pm
O Bloed!
9 Jan 2008, 16:41 pm
Redlion
I like your comment. Pieter comes from the same mould as JW. He knows the young players and is in a better position than HM to take these youngsters who already won the WC with him all the way to the top.
He did it once, and he might just surprise the non-believers by doing it again.
9 Jan 2008, 16:43 pm
Pietman,
Hi there.
There are some positives to take out of this. SARU didn’t go with the most experienced man, but they did at least select a coach who has at least shown himself capable of coaching players at international tournaments.
I’m sure Pieter De Villiers as a man does not want to set out to lose the test matches his teams play in. I’m sure he is a very driven man, a man driven to win and to nurture in the next phase of players that are gradually making it through in South Africa.
I hope the South African players now put aside their feelings of allegiance to their coach of preference, and set out to play for the new coach if they are selected. I hope too that South Africans of all creed and colour throw their weight behind PDV. He has yet to do anything to be denied 100% support IMO.
If he loses games and forces through selections of substandard teams during his coaching tenure, by all means let rip at the guy and SARU. Coaching at international level is cut throat. The Boks are a winning brand, and with that comes money. If the Boks cease to be a winning team, the sponsors won’t continue to invest, as much as romantics of transformation would like to believe.
PDV has to forge a winning team whilst pushing through the transformation agenda of the ruling elite. It is a tough task, but one that at U19 and U21 level he did more than capably when looking at the colour demographics of his teams.
At the end of the day, SARU could have selected a coach with no coaching acumen – they could have selected Chester Williams.
9 Jan 2008, 16:45 pm
SA has an incredible talent pool of young players coming through. Anyone could coach the U21s to a world cup. Anyone. Saying that someone has won a world cup at U19 and U21 levels means absolutely nothing to me. My Gran could get a young Bok side to the semis at least and then from there its all the players anyway.
9 Jan 2008, 16:45 pm
stodders
Yes bud.
All of the best for 2008 to you and yours.
I have no problems with Pde V.
He will shake off those politicians soon enough and do the right thing for the team, I am sure.
Nothing has changed.
9 Jan 2008, 16:46 pm
Pietman,
Its two year not because he is black as many will elude to, thought its not a untoward thinking.
I think its because since he takes over from a winning base and a car that is running at full steam, he doesn’t need time to build like Jake had to do for 4 years but he needs to find jelling combination in certain position quicker find and introduce new blood in certain positions, more so at flyhalf.
Two years is fine by me for Pieter, and its also cheaper to release a person when they don’t perform.
9 Jan 2008, 16:46 pm
If I were Heyneke Meyer I’d apply for the U21 bok coaching position. The bigwigs of rugby seem to think that qualifies you to coach for the senior team. Good luck to Pieter.
But I tell you what the administrators said that politics wasn’t going to be a consideration. They lied. For a moment I must say I was actually naive enough to believe them. But dishonesty seems to come easily to them, just read White’s biography.
Pieter said he would pick the best bok team. Should I believe him too? Should I believe that he won’t be a yes man to the very people that picked him. The same people that will not be satisfied until SA rugby is torn apart.
I DON’T believe that. Maybe Pieter is a good coach but he wasn’t the best candidate. Even in Australia they picked the best Candidate despite the fact that he wasn’t an aussie.
But I’m not going to be negative. Pieter is no mug and he’s inherited the best team in the world. No snot and trane there. But I tell you, if he f**ks it up then SARU heads better roll.
9 Jan 2008, 16:47 pm
To the Heineken fan Club
Anger, disappointment and dissatisfaction can build up to boiling point and reach a stage where one cannot handle the pressure anymore so they either commit suicide or murder their nearest and dearest or drink ‘Brannewyn”
Please act responsible!
9 Jan 2008, 16:48 pm
Isigidi
correct, who here knew of Jake White back in 2003? There was a bunch of S14 and CC coaches lining up for the Bok coaching job back then but someone in SARU decided to the give the job to an unknown coach without super experience.
Coaches career path to becoming a Bok coach should be;
School coach (PdV yes)
Club coach (PdV yes)
Vodacom Cup coach (PdV yes)
Currie Cup coach (PdV yes)
S14 coach
SA u21/u23 coach (PdV yes)
Bock coach (PdV yes)
poor old HM did not go through the system like PdV that is for sure, he is not qualified plain and simple.
9 Jan 2008, 16:49 pm
Harlequin
Seems my bird whistled true…
9 Jan 2008, 16:49 pm
Sir Watson
I want PdeV to go to 2011 WC, not only for two years.
Btw, he is not ‘black’, he is as ‘black’ as Luke and I!
Hy is n Paarl boytjie. Soos Wayne Julies.
Ons praat net Afrikaans en Engels, nie een van die ander 9 tale nie.
9 Jan 2008, 16:50 pm
This is all just spin from Hoskins. He obviously doesn’t know what calibre HM is made of in his above quoted comments!
He will not get involved finnish & klaar…… and as i said all along …..
daar moet nog baie water in die see loop…. en nou het daar!
9 Jan 2008, 16:50 pm
WPTID I stand corrected. I was wrong. You were right.
9 Jan 2008, 16:50 pm
THE LAST PUZZLE;
LUKE WATSON FOR CAPTAIN
hate him or love him, no-one can discount that.
Funny things are happening in our country,
Zille thinks she can attract disgruntled Mbeki’s allies in the ANC, in her dreams (he he he)
Zuma the ANC President and to be for SA,
Stofile to be SARU President
Graeme Smith scoring runs
Dakar not happening
Rassie praising Luke
Increase Interest Rate
Increase Inflation
Who can count against LUKE WATSON being Captain.
9 Jan 2008, 16:51 pm
I think we are blessed to have a such an accomplished rugby mind in Pieter de Villiers (a “black” man). I am a huge supporter of merit selections and this, I have to say, IS a merit appointment. Proven by one Jake White, coaching a senior team is not a requirement to be successful on the national stage. My heart goes out to Heyneke Meyer, but hey, thats the way the ball bounces sometimes. The fact that the man has no job at the moment is a consequence of his own decisions. Next time, have a back-up!
The fact that so many of the exciting young players in SA at the moment cut their teeth under Pieter de Villiers is very positive for our rugby. Only an idiot would discard the structures and experience in place in SA rugby at the moment. And this guy didn’t get to where he is today by making stupid, impulsive decsions. And to our senior players who are the phones with their agents trying to work on a golden umbrella deal with an overseas club right now…SHAME ON YOU!!! If your run now, I have no respect for you. SA rugby is bigger that you, the coach or the president’s council. The green and gold will be here forever even if you’re not wearing it. Change is the only constant and to surrvive and be successful, one should embrace it. This is what is preached in offices and boardrooms all day…why not in sport?
This country is changing and has changed over the last 14 years. It will continue to change. If you as a “supporter” will only support SA rugby and the Boks as long as the coach and team is white, you are in for a very short stint. Where is this game to be grown if not amongst “black” South Africans. It is the future, and it is inevitable.
If Jocob Zuma was appointed Springbok coach and he then proceeded to select a springbok team from the ranks of the ANC youth league, I would understand the frustration of the “supporters”. Mshinawami before every test….eeeek! Unsettling to say the least. But the new coach is a man who has been directly involved in the development of players like Piere Spies, Heinke Van der Merwe, Richart Strauss, Francois Steyn and countless other earmarked future stars. He has the same qualifications as Jake White and was more successful as a junior coach. Give him the chance, he will not dissapoint!
9 Jan 2008, 16:52 pm
well now we know where the buck stops!
All the best of luck to the new coach …..
long live the Boks!
May we retain the WC in 2011!!!!!!!!!! so that i can say to Tackler…. another 4 years!!!!!!!
9 Jan 2008, 16:54 pm
Haalllooo Staal..
Cousin se ek moet jouy vra wanneer jy, hy en GBS bietjie golf op Peacunwood gaan speel???
Cousin en GBS is geban jong!!
9 Jan 2008, 16:54 pm
SW – I sure as hell hope you are wrong, but I will not bet against it
RedLion
Do you thing coaching the Baby Boks should be a step above S14?
IMO the S14 of Heinie Cup has all the pressure of test rugby and should count much-much more than age group rugby – even if it was at national level.
9 Jan 2008, 16:54 pm
When did PdeV play for Griquas and Boland?
Sir Watson, you know?
Or Obiwan?
I see it is in his CV.
9 Jan 2008, 16:54 pm
wie ookal coach, kry net Eddie Jones so paar maande voor die volgende WC.
9 Jan 2008, 16:56 pm
Staal
Right!
This is where the buck stops!
Let’s watch.
9 Jan 2008, 16:56 pm
82 hb,
Hallo ou maat.
GBS het my mail addy – laat hul my mail stuur dan sal ek 4bal reel!
9 Jan 2008, 16:56 pm
Who is the current u21 bok coach?
9 Jan 2008, 16:57 pm
The Meyer of Pretoria will not be involved in the Bokke set-up, specially as assistant coach. He is now the type of man who is either the boss, or not involved at all.
I am sure he will look overseas, or go into business or something.
Also, we probably will have heard by now if he was going to be involved.
Sorry for you, The Meyer of Pretoria is packing his bags to go overseas.
9 Jan 2008, 16:57 pm
Can anyone think of a coach who wnt through the agegroups at national level to a S14 job?
Loffie is the only one I can think off? Anyone?
9 Jan 2008, 16:58 pm
Ek sal vir GBS ‘n bietjie bel dan reel ons n ding
9 Jan 2008, 16:58 pm
yes, long live the boks. keep winning pieter my man, just keep on winning.
on the captain question, i recon stick with smit.
9 Jan 2008, 16:58 pm
who cares!
9 Jan 2008, 16:58 pm
I guess this is Payback for the politicians who for years saw only two black guys in the bulls squad. One on each wing. Maybe Meyer should take his Hynie to the U21′s and improve his transformation record.
9 Jan 2008, 17:00 pm
91 hb,
volgende week is reg want ek gaan oor 2 weke uit die land uit vir n ruk asook in maart..
9 Jan 2008, 17:00 pm
83
Kerneels
I do think so, U21 is international rugby and the u21 RWC is a knockout comp involving the best young All Black’s who will be the future stars.
Remember Jakes philosophy – if you beat them at youth level then you should also beat then at senior level.
9 Jan 2008, 17:02 pm
The Meyer of Pretoria was the best transformer in SA. He played more than just two black wings. If you know Bulls rugby you will know that many fowards play and played for the Bulls / Blue Bulls etc.
If you’ve seen the film Transformers you will remember that The Meyer of Pretoria played a cameo role, as the Uber Transformer.
9 Jan 2008, 17:02 pm
Kerneels
Loffie is the only coaches with more coaching experience than PdV – he went through the system and beats PdV on S14 experience.
9 Jan 2008, 17:02 pm
Staal,
Wanneer volgende week?? Ek sal vir Cousin en GBS laat weet broer… Sondag of innie week??
9 Jan 2008, 17:04 pm
RL
Interesting point. So you would say guys like Muir, Eloff and Rassie (if I may be so bold as to assume the next coach should come out of that group) should be fighting over the u/21 job?
Yet I can almost guarantee you a relative no-name will get the job… I wonder if S14 jobs pay better than national jobs…
9 Jan 2008, 17:05 pm
The Stormers havc alistair coetzee as their backline coach. We could do with a forwards coach. (Jokes)Maybe he should’ve taken the job four years ago when they offered it up to him on a silver platter and he turned it down.
I just hope he gets his chance in two years time if the current springbok coach isn’t up to scratch.
You can’t expect a white guy to get a fair shake in south africa anymore these days. Even a vastly more experienced and capable guy.
9 Jan 2008, 17:06 pm
99 hb,
sorry ek speel nie naweke golf nie net innie week.
Wat van n 4bal, Jy, ek, GBS en cervix?
9 Jan 2008, 17:07 pm
O hel ek het van Kwagga vergeet – miskien ander keer!
9 Jan 2008, 17:07 pm
Maak so, watter dag?? Jy moet net se? Ek sal nie kan speel nie, maar GBS en Cousin sal beslis kan speel…
9 Jan 2008, 17:08 pm
Have a look at a piece of the press conference on dieburger website.
9 Jan 2008, 17:10 pm
#81
PdV played for the Griqualand West SARU team from 1977 to 1978 and then for the Boland SARU team from 1980 to 1987.
9 Jan 2008, 17:10 pm
Staal,
Kwagga sal nie kan speel nie.. Reel vir jou, Cousin, GBS en Cousin sal vir Gurthro Steenkamp vra of hy wil kom saam speel!!!
9 Jan 2008, 17:12 pm
101 hb,
Voorrye kannie golf speel nie!
Wat van jou?
9 Jan 2008, 17:13 pm
So Heyneke might become Director of Rugby? In the mean while though – he is supposed to sit on his arse and wait.
The Presidents Council’s “need” to keep him will not pay his bills. Heyneke to move to Toulon and become coach. Umaga to make a come back.
Disgraceful. To publicly state that you would “like to keep him in the system” – is so degrading to the man.
Tackler must be sitting somewhere in NZ – laughing his socks off….
9 Jan 2008, 17:14 pm
Kerneels
The U21 coaching job should be the most sought after position after the Bok head coach job (at the pay should be on par as the Bok coach with a succession plan to take over the senior team) – at U21 level you actually have to know how to be a coach and how to talent – at S14 level you have pro’s who have already being coached so the challenges at super level is less than at u21 level.
9 Jan 2008, 17:15 pm
Staal,
Nee broer ek is uit… Laat weet maar watter dag, ek sal vir GBS en Cousin laat weet. Sal laat GBS jou Maandag mail, dan gee jy hom die details as dit reg is met jou??
9 Jan 2008, 17:16 pm
Thanx Obiwan.
I thought that it must have been a long time ago.
The Saru team, was it mainly players of colour way back then?
Who was Kwaru, Morgan Cushe and those boys in the E-Cape, not the same?
I lost track of all those confusing times in our history, sorry.
9 Jan 2008, 17:17 pm
105 Hb,
No problemo! Laat GBS my mail asb.
9 Jan 2008, 17:19 pm
Maak so staal!!!
Hoe gaan dinge daar by die plaas??? Bliksem ek wens ek kan nou op n plaas bly!!! Ek is gatvol vir die stad lewe broer…
9 Jan 2008, 17:19 pm
Fair enough RL, you make a good point. I do not agree though, so let’s just leave it at that.
The coaching ranks should look something like this IMO:
School
Provincial School
Club (University if possible)
Provincial junior
Vodacom
National junior level
CC
S14
National Assistant
National coach
In A however, you will be about 97 by the time you reach national stage…so I guess it is nothing more than a pipe dream.
9 Jan 2008, 17:21 pm
A=SA
9 Jan 2008, 17:21 pm
109 Hb,
eks nou innie stad hierdie week.
werk hard en wassie weg in Des nie….
ja-nee om die Rooibokke en Zebras te **** snork bly darem beter as om Taxis se hoeters te **** elke dag!
9 Jan 2008, 17:22 pm
Nee man Kerneels jy moet mooi spel…
9 Jan 2008, 17:23 pm
Waar innie stad Staal??
9 Jan 2008, 17:24 pm
RedLion,
not sure i’m with u on the u21 thing. do they play any other ‘tests’ apart from than the u21 wc tournament? if not, u not making sense to me cause the coaching job is then hardly full time
9 Jan 2008, 17:24 pm
113 Hb,
Ken jy Montana Park? Dis so 15 km vannie S14 beker af!
9 Jan 2008, 17:25 pm
Hello Pietman and all other bloggers.
All the best for 2008.
When all the over reaction and emotion dies down then we will all realize that the only real issue will be a winning Bok team, because you can be sure of one thing, and that is that whoever the coach is and whatever colour he his, when he starts losing he will be public enemy number one even those in SARU will turn on him.
I hope PDV does not find himself in this situation, but he will quickly understand that politics and transformation are not the things that will keep him in a job.
Only winning will keep any coach in the job.
9 Jan 2008, 17:27 pm
Skuus man HB…
As julle nou in Pta MOET speel, gaan speel eerder Wingate CC – dis in elk geval die beste baan in Pta.
9 Jan 2008, 17:28 pm
Ken dit baie goed broer, daar innie Noorde!!! Ek het gister by dieste saam Cousin Golf gespeel. Hy het ook Sondag op Woodhill gespeel, dis mos daar reg langs hom…
9 Jan 2008, 17:29 pm
Kerneels nee moer my ou maat, ek bly by hom, daai baan is vol Jode en dis baie duur om daar te speel… Ek het baie daar as jongeling gespeel!!!
9 Jan 2008, 17:30 pm
Hello Tighead
How is the Carnarvon family, still keeping you stocked with Karoo lamb, are they?
Lucky bugger you!
9 Jan 2008, 17:30 pm
Yis Hangbal/Twaksak. Jou tjommie Cuzy is seker besig om sy bal met klippe te sit en kap. Kon net dink wat die jong alles te se kan he op hierdie thread…. Hahahaha
Julle moet nie worry oor PdV nie man. Voor S14 begin het die Scorpions hom gearrest vir fraud in is hy uit. (Luke se pa gaan hom definitief mos so ‘n ou bonussie in die hand moet druk om Luke Captain te maak.)
9 Jan 2008, 17:30 pm
117 Kerneels…..
die beste baan is Pta is altyd mos die baan waar n ou die beste gespeel het!
9 Jan 2008, 17:32 pm
120 # tight head, sorry.
That sounded like ‘tietkop’ almost, didn’t mean it that way!
(That’s what you get from mixing with the like of Cuzzy and Kwagga here on keo.)
9 Jan 2008, 17:32 pm
hangbal…
Wat se jy tjomma?
9 Jan 2008, 17:33 pm
Jis jis ou Germaan!!!!
Hoe gaan dinge ou maat??? Nee Cousin is lekker moerig, maar staan agter PdV tot hy verloor. Ek wil nie die woorde se wat ou Cousin vir my gese het vroeer vanmiddag nie… EISH!!!!
9 Jan 2008, 17:33 pm
Concerning the 2 yr contrct. Jake was not appointed for 4 yours from the begining Somewhere along the line his contract was extended
9 Jan 2008, 17:35 pm
Net tyd sal leer oor PdV. Gaan hom sy kans gee.
Hoskins aan die ander kant moet sy f&*$@&! tassies pak! Hy en al sy agtermekaar tjommies!
9 Jan 2008, 17:35 pm
Pietman jou tweegesig…
Haalllo Tinus,
Nee ek is “stil” soos n oorlog skip!!!
9 Jan 2008, 17:35 pm
Weskus
Jy die Kaap geniet mater?
Jy was nie McDouggals toe nie dalks?
Wonder hoe gaan dit met daai klomp smokkelaars, ou Jos, Niekie en die lot daar innie Port.
Hoop ek kan eendag weer n krefie gaan uithaal daar in die koue waters….met n bottel Oubies wat wag op die strand vir die uitkomslag!
9 Jan 2008, 17:37 pm
hangbal…
Kan jou goed glo! Cousin het seker baie Griekse woorde gebruik!
9 Jan 2008, 17:37 pm
Hoskins moet soos n Disprin maak en desolve, hy en Komphela en daaitwee Stofsuier broers. Dan is ons rugby/sport beter af!!!
9 Jan 2008, 17:39 pm
Pietman,
Jy raak te oud ou maat, jou tieker sal vinnig gaan staan as jy in daai koue water moet klim… hehehe!!!
Tinus,
Nee die man was omgekrap ****… Ek aan die ander kant in is maar rustig hier…
9 Jan 2008, 17:40 pm
#125
Ons het mos dan nou nie ‘n keuse anders as hom te back nie. Ek ken hom nie en soos ons mos maar seker is sal hy die hero wees as dit goed gaan maar as hy kuk aanjaag sal ek hom self ‘n paar Namaqualandse woorde toesnou.
Uit die aard van die saak word hy goed betaal en glo ek sal hy nie aspris wees nie. As dit die beste is wat SA het moet ons seker maar tevrede wees as die resultate anders toon.
Hy is nie my keuse nie, maar so was PW en Mandela ook nie….
9 Jan 2008, 17:41 pm
Ahh! Life is good!
The police has just arrested a Scorpions head for corruption and fraud and now Pdv is now coach!
Life is good!
9 Jan 2008, 17:41 pm
We have a few presidents to get rid of and that horrible system of governance by the provinces.
9 Jan 2008, 17:43 pm
blou zeb dit is wat ek gedink het maar was nie seker nie.
9 Jan 2008, 17:43 pm
Germaantjie,
Nee ek stem saam… Soos ek vroeer gese het, al wat ons as SA rugby ondersteuners soek is n wen span… Maak nie saak watter kleur die coach of die spelers is nie!!!
9 Jan 2008, 17:47 pm
Julle praat net!!!!! Moan moan, ***** *****!!!!!
9 Jan 2008, 17:48 pm
hangbal…
Stem saam, ons wil net wen. Maar jislaaik, ons is die enigste land wat nie glo in meriete nie. Maar nou ja, dit is nog steeds apartheid se skuld!
9 Jan 2008, 17:48 pm
Haaalllooo K9,
Nogal gewonder waar jy is??
9 Jan 2008, 17:48 pm
Pietman
Kaap is mos maar altyd lekker. Het so twee dae reen en 2 wind gehad, maar dit laat my altyd vrolik. Die hele Kaap is nors, net ek wat smile.
Nee man, McDougals was uit. My vrou het net vir my 6 Krewe, 4 Galjoene en 50 Oesters saamgebring Kaap toe.
Die ou smokkelaars is maar versigtig deesdae. Daar was nou te veel verrasingtjies die laaste 2 jaar. Ek glo ou Nick is meer versigtig, want as hulle hom nou vang gaan hy sy aftree jare ge-mang deurbring.
Ai maar die Kaap is maar net lekker. As jy nou jou ou eie Muisbosskermpie daar aan die kus het sal ons maar die ou botteltjie OB nader trek en met ons voete in die water droom oor die kreefvang dae in Port.
9 Jan 2008, 17:50 pm
HM may have made a good forwards coach for the boks, maybe even an OK head coach, but he would have denied the team the luxury they were afforded from EJ. The same luxury that Jake finally gave himself – a good back line. A back line coached first by Dicky Muir/Campese, and then by EJ. Jake would never have achieved the WC win without EJ. And he was maybe smart enough to know that, late as it may have been.
Meyer, is not a replacement for EJ. He is quite the opposite. He is a forwards, old sef efrika coach. I dont give a toss about a S14 win. And even less about CC. But the Bulls are still the Bulls. They achieve through forward steamroller play, not from any skill in the backline. Habanna would make any backline shine, and without him, the Bulls would have been a good deal lower on the log than No 1.
That said, he would still make a fine forwards coach. One of the best. But a consolation prize to replace Eddie?
No.
He’d just have to hire Eddie beneath him. Because he cannot give SA rugby what it lacks. The same stuff that Plumtree and Campese and Jones gave. A good backline.
I have no beef with transformation. In principal it’s fine. But what messes up the idea in practice is the lack of funds at grass routes level to feed enough tallented players through to the top. I hope PDV knows what he’s getting into, and I’m sure he does.
Nevertheless, good luck PdV. I hope you do us proud. I hope you dont manipulate the press. I hope your “bosses” dont manipulate you. Do a good job and people will love you. Hire EJ and they’ll still question you, but you’d do well to hire him before you hire HM. Because if you do, they’ll learn to adore you.
Happy new year folks.
9 Jan 2008, 17:50 pm
Tinus,
As ons geglo het aan mariete, was JW of self Nick Mallet nog coach…
9 Jan 2008, 17:50 pm
114 JUSM
I do think that U21 is full time but neither is the Snr Bok coach position, however but every year there is a u21 RWC to prepare for which is like an international season for u21′s – what the U21 coach can do while not coaching is coach/mentor coaches for Vodacom/CC b/CC u21 level and be more involved hands on with the next generation of coaches coming through.
9 Jan 2008, 17:51 pm
Weskus
Ja, ek wil graag daai skerm opsit, sal jou en PikSteal-hulle nooi daai dag.
Ja, ou Niekie het seker nou genoeg Benze, hy moet bietjie afskaal, maar daai smokkel is in die manne se bloed.
Dit gaan later nie meer oor die geld nie.
9 Jan 2008, 17:51 pm
also the u21 coach can probably get involved with the Bok Snr team if possible.
9 Jan 2008, 17:52 pm
It can only be a good thing to finally have a Springbok coach with a snor again.
9 Jan 2008, 17:52 pm
Germaan,
Het jy n bietjie kreef saam jou gevat uit die land uit???
9 Jan 2008, 17:53 pm
Sien my post is uitgevee! Mooi ****! Het nie die plek nodig om waarheid te praat nie my ou!
9 Jan 2008, 17:54 pm
Wat se post is dit Tinus??
Is die webmastertjie wer besig???
9 Jan 2008, 17:56 pm
Tinus
Die website sukkel nogals – probeer dit weer post, miskien was dit ‘n system error.
9 Jan 2008, 17:56 pm
Hi guys
Just wondering about the whole comparison about PdV vs Jake 4 years ago. People are saying that PdV is a better coach now than what Jake was 4 years ago and that he was also U/21 winning coach etc. What people tend to forget is that Jake already had a good taste of the senior international arena when he was technical advisor for the Boks team that equalised some world record of consecutive test wins. PdV, as far as my knowledge goes, does not have international exposure on senior level which is quite a step up from U/21 level. Am I making a thunderstorm of a normal ****?
9 Jan 2008, 17:57 pm
Nou’s ek warm!
9 Jan 2008, 17:57 pm
#152
Agree with you, but only time will tell…
9 Jan 2008, 17:59 pm
So warm soos n Kalahari leeu drol… heheheh!!!
9 Jan 2008, 17:59 pm
154
Kom ons almal “hang” ma “bal” en wag wen hoop vir die beste….
9 Jan 2008, 17:59 pm
wen = en
9 Jan 2008, 18:00 pm
Maak so my ou maat…
9 Jan 2008, 18:01 pm
Pietman
Ek sien uit daarna. Regte Weskus plekkie. Eg mens met eg kultuur.
Hangbal
Nee ek het nie. Jy ken seker die Customs in Afrika. Hulle kan net moontlik dink jy is besig met onderduimsheid. Kreef lyk hoeka soos een of ander gepantserde wapen.
9 Jan 2008, 18:02 pm
WPTID…
Trust me, that was not a problem with the site! How’s your nerves for 16 Feb? Heeeehaaaa!!!
hangbal…
Sal jou later se. Waarheid is mos sonde! Maar wag, die mannetjie sal nog leer!
9 Jan 2008, 18:03 pm
Germaantjie,
Nee ek stem, jong… Hoe lank voor jy nou weer huistoe kom?? Gaan jy saam ons na daai game op Nuweland kyk?
9 Jan 2008, 18:05 pm
Kap maar n ignore Tinus!!!
9 Jan 2008, 18:06 pm
Hallo manne! Ou Petertjie is nou ons man!
9 Jan 2008, 18:06 pm
hangbal…
Nee, nog warmer!
9 Jan 2008, 18:08 pm
Dag AB!
9 Jan 2008, 18:09 pm
Jaaaaa AB ek sien so ou maat!!!
9 Jan 2008, 18:10 pm
Nee f@k, dis ver, maar ek wens ek kon. Dis nou te se as julle vir Cuzy in een van daai Mad vests kon gestrap het.
Ek gaan Februarie padlangs deur Botswana en Namibia, my vrou en kinders optel in SA en weer so toer toer terug na Zam.
9 Jan 2008, 18:10 pm
Ek dink die PC is donners mal…
9 Jan 2008, 18:13 pm
Germaan
Ek gaan einde Maart Namibia toe na my suster…
Einde Junie is ek en mammie vir twee weke innie rooi see om te duik jong!!!
Trust my nie eers n mad vest hou daai Cousin stil nie…
9 Jan 2008, 18:16 pm
AB…
Dis nou tyd vir PdV om te maak soos hy gese het en nooit minder as 5 spelers van kleur op die veld te he nie!
9 Jan 2008, 18:18 pm
hangbal jou rubbish!
Gedog ek gaan jou hier vang! Enige nuus oor MTN anders hardloop ek met Vodacom!
9 Jan 2008, 18:20 pm
Tinus
Ek stem solank dit meriete is anders gaan RUGBY SUPPORTERS VOICE hulle almal stop!
9 Jan 2008, 18:21 pm
hangbal…
Ek en my mammie gaan Desember ski in Kanada! Het in 2006 ook gegaan, was blerrie lekker! hierdie keer gaan babatjie saam!
9 Jan 2008, 18:22 pm
AB ek het vandag met Fabio Caprin gepraat, dis die regional manager van MTN Gauteng. Hy sal more terug kom na my toe… Onthou net Vodacom is baie meer betrokke by rugby as by iets ander. So ek dink ons beste deal is by Vodacom. MTN is maar sokker…
9 Jan 2008, 18:23 pm
AB…
Stem saam!
9 Jan 2008, 18:24 pm
Tinus,
Twee van my vriende trek einde Maart ook Kanada toe…
9 Jan 2008, 18:26 pm
Wonder waar is ou Varing vanaand… Kap seker weer rond innie stad.. heheheh!!!
9 Jan 2008, 18:26 pm
AB…
Waar kry ek meer info oor RSV?
9 Jan 2008, 18:27 pm
Op facebook onder daai naam as n Group
9 Jan 2008, 18:28 pm
hangbal…
Waar in Kanada? Ons is naby Winnipeg.
9 Jan 2008, 18:28 pm
Tinus join nou!!!
9 Jan 2008, 18:30 pm
Nee ek het nie n clue waar hulle heen trek nie!!!
AB,
Daar is sover 6 ouens sonder jou en jou vrou wat verseker oppie trein trippie is!!
9 Jan 2008, 18:30 pm
Tinus
En invite al jou pelle!
9 Jan 2008, 18:31 pm
AB…
Sal gaan kyk!
Ek moet gaan ouens! Praat weer more? Lekker aand!
9 Jan 2008, 18:33 pm
Maak so hangbal, AB! Cheers!
9 Jan 2008, 18:35 pm
Cheers Tinus!
9 Jan 2008, 19:11 pm
Oregan Hoskins druk jou consilation prize in jou gat in. Almal sien deur hierdie BS van vandag.
Hoop PdV maak n sukses sonder om n ‘puppet on a string’ te wees. Laat die Bok lewe.
9 Jan 2008, 19:21 pm
Pieter se op die SABC 2 nuus vanaand dis ‘n nasiebou proses en niemand moet bevrees wees nie. Alle keuring sal op mariete wees. Kom ons kyk.
Zuma het gese hy gaan crime hokslaan….
9 Jan 2008, 19:24 pm
#188 Jaaaa ou vrind hoe lyk dinge. Wat seg jy oor die spulletjie?
9 Jan 2008, 19:28 pm
Kwagga, naandse. In Namaqualands…. dis ‘n naaiery……
9 Jan 2008, 19:31 pm
#191 Nie te onverwags nie moet ek sê maar kom ons ondersteun maar die ou. Dink persoonlik HM was die beter man virrie job maar nou ja die net ek.
Ek dink net hierdie klomp etterkoppies van die PC gaan dit nie maklik maak nie vir hom nie
9 Jan 2008, 21:14 pm
If Meyer as used as director if high performance, that would be ideal – he has shown that he is capable of putting in structures at the Bulls that link the various age groups, and keep the bulls school-to-club-to-province feeder system going. Imagine if he could do that for all the provinces? Awesome!! We would have the best feeder system in the world, and our youngsters would dominate from day one, and keep it going into the senior side!!
PLEASE, PLEASE MEYER – accept a position like this!! Its not about ego – we all know that you were the most eminently qualified coach, so there is no shame in the appointment of PdV- you have always claimed to be humble and a servant of the game, now show us that it is so…
9 Jan 2008, 21:17 pm
Bamber #5
Is that you Andy?
9 Jan 2008, 21:40 pm
193 In combination it might even be Bambi?
9 Jan 2008, 22:23 pm
Heyneke must not get disillusioned now.
He must reposition himself as he will be the logical successor if Peter fails.
It was the same when Carel duP was preferred to Nick Mallet. Mallet was devastated but bounced back later to become one of our all time best.
He also assembled a team consisting of White, Meyer and De Villiers of course. So in a sense, we are still feeling the Mallet legacy.
Take the Director’s post to just stay in the mix.
My gut feel however tells me De Villiers will surprise most.
He will be keen to see a smooth transition and will therefore not fix which aint broken.
This was always the danger with Heyneke that he might have tried to hard to put the “Heyneke stamp†on the Bok team.
PdV played it smartly as he wants to build on what’s already there.
So what must he do?
1. Confront the fears of the players, analyse and set the parameters immediately
2. Settle on a skipper and senior players
3. Continue with White’s traditions (respect for jersey, ex players)
4. Find a Yster No 3 tight head
5. Settle the new new boys (Heinke, Wian and Ryan ASAP)
6. Settle the fly half (start with Andre P with Peter G as understudy if Butchie is unavailable)
7. Remove the likes of Ashwin, Wynand, Wayne J and Ricky J.
8. Settle Ruan as a No 9 as understudy to Fourie
9. Groom Frans and Connie Jantjes to take over from Percy
10. Stay close to White who will be keen to see his legacy live on
11. Establish a new goal or vision – Trinations 08 then Lions 2009; that will secure another 2 years and going to RWC 2011
9 Jan 2008, 22:25 pm
GIVE HIM THGE assistant coach job.
10 Jan 2008, 00:33 am
another farse from the beginginto thte end – I had no doubt it would be PDV. Now some months back – PDV said that he would make Matfield or LUKE WATSON captain………thE SAGA BEGINS….all the best to PDV……
10 Jan 2008, 00:34 am
where is Tacitus???? come out boy
10 Jan 2008, 00:36 am
Now PDV will also accept Stofile terms in his contract – like the PC has the veto on selection…..and the rest….and more…
10 Jan 2008, 01:51 am
Yeah right…Meyer gets dissed because he was white. He should tell them, to go to hell
10 Jan 2008, 03:24 am
Sparticus,
We actually agree on something.
JJ Harmse IS a twat. Of note.
(Don’t let it go to your head, son.)
10 Jan 2008, 05:51 am
Heyneke come back home! Province need you!!lol
10 Jan 2008, 07:54 am
Please, get over yourselves! De Villiers has led junior Springbok teams to victory and this is the natural next step up.
Meyer has won a few Currie Cups and a Super 14 – perhaps he needs to get involved in a few U19 or U21 Springbok teams first and work his way up.
Jake started at those levels and won SA the World Cup in 2007! The winning recipe was that he had worked with the boys as juniors so taking the position as Springbok coach was made easier by the faact that he knew most of the young guys and brought them through the system. De Villiers will do the same.
10 Jan 2008, 08:31 am
i heard meyer might be technical advisor at the bulls, replacing eddie…..only joking bulle
10 Jan 2008, 08:34 am
Tacitus jumped!!
10 Jan 2008, 09:24 am
Jeez, this site has turned into a right old tea party… Old whinny woman moaning and moaning….
I miss the old days….
10 Jan 2008, 09:26 am
A cr@p… and I see old Richie_7 is still here… Hey, are you supporting the Boks now after the WC or still banging on your ALL BLACK drum?????
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