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		<title>By: mshiniwami</title>
		<link>http://www.keo.co.za/2008/01/22/lions-ponder-pivots/#comment-734517</link>
		<dc:creator>mshiniwami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 14:13:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>odogg,

Thabang Molefe was backilne player of the yr at the Bulls u21&#039;s in 05,plus was one of the nominees for IRB u21 Player of the yr in 05&#039;.Was all conquering in that team forming a dangerous axis with Ruaan pienaar at 10/12.The Boy reminds me of Norm Berryman..Blockbursting!!!!Would make a nice foil with the hard running/angle runs of J. Pretorius.

Fourie is world class,has plently of pace,can play easily in the back 3;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>odogg,</p>
<p>Thabang Molefe was backilne player of the yr at the Bulls u21&#8242;s in 05,plus was one of the nominees for IRB u21 Player of the yr in 05&#8242;.Was all conquering in that team forming a dangerous axis with Ruaan pienaar at 10/12.The Boy reminds me of Norm Berryman..Blockbursting!!!!Would make a nice foil with the hard running/angle runs of J. Pretorius.</p>
<p>Fourie is world class,has plently of pace,can play easily in the back 3;.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Moneo</title>
		<link>http://www.keo.co.za/2008/01/22/lions-ponder-pivots/#comment-734458</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Moneo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 13:31:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don`t worry boys, the Bulls will NOT win the S14 this year. So, we may be crap but you will join us as also rans this year.
And just for the record, we have a better Super rugby record than you guys and we have beaten you more in Super rugby than you have beaten us.
The Bulls fans have just showed (YET AGAIN) why they are considered as arogant. Read the posts. 
This article really does not concern you guys, so why come on here and start giving proper supporters crap? Morons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don`t worry boys, the Bulls will NOT win the S14 this year. So, we may be <acronym title="Keep it clean!">****</acronym> but you will join us as also rans this year.<br />
And just for the record, we have a better Super rugby record than you guys and we have beaten you more in Super rugby than you have beaten us.<br />
The Bulls fans have just showed (YET AGAIN) why they are considered as arogant. Read the posts.<br />
This article really does not concern you guys, so why come on here and start giving proper supporters <acronym title="Keep it clean!">****</acronym>? Morons.</p>
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		<title>By: nr nine</title>
		<link>http://www.keo.co.za/2008/01/22/lions-ponder-pivots/#comment-734317</link>
		<dc:creator>nr nine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 12:16:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#2

Jammer om jou babbel te bars maar die bulle het ook baie harde werk voor hul</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#2</p>
<p>Jammer om jou babbel te bars maar die bulle het ook baie harde werk voor hul</p>
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		<title>By: walter</title>
		<link>http://www.keo.co.za/2008/01/22/lions-ponder-pivots/#comment-734116</link>
		<dc:creator>walter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 08:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#45 It would be nice, though!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#45 It would be nice, though!</p>
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		<title>By: greatest13gerber</title>
		<link>http://www.keo.co.za/2008/01/22/lions-ponder-pivots/#comment-733865</link>
		<dc:creator>greatest13gerber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 23:28:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#44 wow, thats taking the &quot;hope&quot; a little too far.............................................................................................................into the Twilight Zone :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#44 wow, thats taking the &#8220;hope&#8221; a little too far&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.into the Twilight Zone <img src='http://www.keo.co.za/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: RedLion</title>
		<link>http://www.keo.co.za/2008/01/22/lions-ponder-pivots/#comment-733842</link>
		<dc:creator>RedLion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 19:37:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not care what the critics say - fact is the Mighty Lions will make it to the S14 semi&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not care what the critics say &#8211; fact is the Mighty Lions will make it to the S14 semi&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: odogg</title>
		<link>http://www.keo.co.za/2008/01/22/lions-ponder-pivots/#comment-733836</link>
		<dc:creator>odogg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 18:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting backline Mshiniwami. Fourie used to be a hot fullback once upon a time. Tell me about Molefe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting backline Mshiniwami. Fourie used to be a hot fullback once upon a time. Tell me about Molefe.</p>
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		<title>By: mshiniwami</title>
		<link>http://www.keo.co.za/2008/01/22/lions-ponder-pivots/#comment-733825</link>
		<dc:creator>mshiniwami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 17:23:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lions backline IMO should be:

9.Vermaak
10.Jaco-so thin in this department its ridiculous
11.Ludik
12.Molefe
13.J.Pretorius
14.Boshoff/Killian
15.J.Fourie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lions backline IMO should be:</p>
<p>9.Vermaak<br />
10.Jaco-so thin in this department its ridiculous<br />
11.Ludik<br />
12.Molefe<br />
13.J.Pretorius<br />
14.Boshoff/Killian<br />
15.J.Fourie</p>
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		<title>By: mshiniwami</title>
		<link>http://www.keo.co.za/2008/01/22/lions-ponder-pivots/#comment-733824</link>
		<dc:creator>mshiniwami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 17:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#35..Here here,Agree 100%

Hit the nail on the head...We all know</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#35..Here here,Agree 100%</p>
<p>Hit the nail on the head&#8230;We all know</p>
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		<title>By: greatest13gerber</title>
		<link>http://www.keo.co.za/2008/01/22/lions-ponder-pivots/#comment-733823</link>
		<dc:creator>greatest13gerber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 16:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lions fans live in hope,

nothing wrong with that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lions fans live in hope,</p>
<p>nothing wrong with that.</p>
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		<title>By: voshd</title>
		<link>http://www.keo.co.za/2008/01/22/lions-ponder-pivots/#comment-733821</link>
		<dc:creator>voshd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 16:46:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even though the Lions were mostly excellent last year, despite the lack of glamour boys in the team,  the Prawvins &#039;kenners&#039; talk about &#039;the same old..&#039;, With Typical Prawvins confidence.

We shall see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even though the Lions were mostly excellent last year, despite the lack of glamour boys in the team,  the Prawvins &#8216;kenners&#8217; talk about &#8216;the same old..&#8217;, With Typical Prawvins confidence.</p>
<p>We shall see.</p>
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		<title>By: leeanthonyw</title>
		<link>http://www.keo.co.za/2008/01/22/lions-ponder-pivots/#comment-733814</link>
		<dc:creator>leeanthonyw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 16:27:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How is it that the kiwi coaches can get so much out of their mediocre players. 
I sse more of the same old this year for the poor old Lions. They don&#039;t even have a settled centre combination or flyhalf, a recipe for disaster.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How is it that the kiwi coaches can get so much out of their mediocre players.<br />
I sse more of the same old this year for the poor old Lions. They don&#8217;t even have a settled centre combination or flyhalf, a recipe for disaster.</p>
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		<title>By: greatest13gerber</title>
		<link>http://www.keo.co.za/2008/01/22/lions-ponder-pivots/#comment-733811</link>
		<dc:creator>greatest13gerber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 16:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#35 &quot;When life was easy and blacks were nobodies&quot;

and today, the ANC have ensured the tables have turned??

I &quot;remember&quot; the &quot;old days&quot; BUT not the &quot;old ways&quot;
I grew up in a very christian family devoid of politics BUT one - pride in my province. We can&#039;t be blamed for the govt at the time and their actions. 

look at SA now, its gained a weird equality but the quality of life has really gone done for many still. The visions of Mandela are far from being realised.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#35 &#8220;When life was easy and blacks were nobodies&#8221;</p>
<p>and today, the ANC have ensured the tables have turned??</p>
<p>I &#8220;remember&#8221; the &#8220;old days&#8221; BUT not the &#8220;old ways&#8221;<br />
I grew up in a very christian family devoid of politics BUT one &#8211; pride in my province. We can&#8217;t be blamed for the govt at the time and their actions. </p>
<p>look at SA now, its gained a weird equality but the quality of life has really gone done for many still. The visions of Mandela are far from being realised.</p>
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		<title>By: greatest13gerber</title>
		<link>http://www.keo.co.za/2008/01/22/lions-ponder-pivots/#comment-733809</link>
		<dc:creator>greatest13gerber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 15:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#33

thanks Dr Phil. You seem to want to politicalise everything..there is no crime to remember the past pertaining to rugby. We still live in democracies my friend. 

to each their own. I am but a simple passionate supporter of rugby.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#33</p>
<p>thanks Dr Phil. You seem to want to politicalise everything..there is no crime to remember the past pertaining to rugby. We still live in democracies my friend. </p>
<p>to each their own. I am but a simple passionate supporter of rugby.</p>
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		<title>By: katman</title>
		<link>http://www.keo.co.za/2008/01/22/lions-ponder-pivots/#comment-733807</link>
		<dc:creator>katman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 15:50:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>odogg, I must run - don&#039;t have time for a discussion. Conservatism, in his case, is a nostalgic yearning for the way things were. When life was easy and blacks were nobodies. Ask him about his old SA flag which he proudly flies in NZ. People only do this for one reason. Anyone who says otherwise is a liar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>odogg, I must run &#8211; don&#8217;t have time for a discussion. Conservatism, in his case, is a nostalgic yearning for the way things were. When life was easy and blacks were nobodies. Ask him about his old SA flag which he proudly flies in NZ. People only do this for one reason. Anyone who says otherwise is a liar.</p>
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		<title>By: odogg</title>
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		<dc:creator>odogg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 15:40:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Katman, what does conservatism really mean?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Katman, what does conservatism really mean?</p>
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		<title>By: katman</title>
		<link>http://www.keo.co.za/2008/01/22/lions-ponder-pivots/#comment-733795</link>
		<dc:creator>katman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 15:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, you wear your old-school conservatism like a badge. You really like what it says about you (despite your holier-than-thou protests to the contrary), otherwise you wouldn&#039;t continue to flaunt it in such a public manner. Everyone here knows it, so you might as well save yourself some ballache and stop denying it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, you wear your old-school conservatism like a badge. You really like what it says about you (despite your holier-than-thou protests to the contrary), otherwise you wouldn&#8217;t continue to flaunt it in such a public manner. Everyone here knows it, so you might as well save yourself some ballache and stop denying it.</p>
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		<title>By: odogg</title>
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		<dc:creator>odogg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 15:29:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reading your post g13g (26), I think I would enjoy having a beer with you. Well until we start talking about transformation or the Bulls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading your post g13g (26), I think I would enjoy having a beer with you. Well until we start talking about transformation or the Bulls.</p>
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		<title>By: greatest13gerber</title>
		<link>http://www.keo.co.za/2008/01/22/lions-ponder-pivots/#comment-733774</link>
		<dc:creator>greatest13gerber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 15:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Katman,

I never agreed with the &quot;suga coating&quot; policies of the ANC and I see no reason to personally go along with them. I acknowledge the greater good of such changes BUT what tangible results for the people do they serve?. yes, I know, I am of the old school But I remember the old days but not necessarily the old ways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Katman,</p>
<p>I never agreed with the &#8220;suga coating&#8221; policies of the ANC and I see no reason to personally go along with them. I acknowledge the greater good of such changes BUT what tangible results for the people do they serve?. yes, I know, I am of the old school But I remember the old days but not necessarily the old ways.</p>
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		<title>By: katman</title>
		<link>http://www.keo.co.za/2008/01/22/lions-ponder-pivots/#comment-733758</link>
		<dc:creator>katman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 15:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not offended. Just a little dismayed at your lack of 21st century knowledge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not offended. Just a little dismayed at your lack of 21st century knowledge.</p>
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