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	<title>Comments on: Big Joe to lead Toulon</title>
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		<title>By: Steaks</title>
		<link>http://www.keo.co.za/2009/01/07/big-joe-to-lead-toulon/#comment-1146003</link>
		<dc:creator>Steaks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 07:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Luke &amp; Cheeky should go play for the Zimbabwean national team @ least there if they step out of line Robert will send his brigades to get them back in line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Luke &amp; Cheeky should go play for the Zimbabwean national team @ least there if they step out of line Robert will send his brigades to get them back in line.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig 6</title>
		<link>http://www.keo.co.za/2009/01/07/big-joe-to-lead-toulon/#comment-1145426</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig 6</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 16:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>maybe cheeky watson will make a comeback... and him and luke will lead the proteas o whoops the springboks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>maybe cheeky watson will make a comeback&#8230; and him and luke will lead the proteas o whoops the springboks</p>
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		<title>By: fish out of water</title>
		<link>http://www.keo.co.za/2009/01/07/big-joe-to-lead-toulon/#comment-1145071</link>
		<dc:creator>fish out of water</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 11:25:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1144747&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;10 King Shark&lt;/a&gt;: what about Mugabe?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#<a href="#comment-1144747" rel="nofollow">10 King Shark</a>: what about Mugabe?</p>
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		<title>By: mshiniwami</title>
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		<dc:creator>mshiniwami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 08:50:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1144916&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;14 puff&lt;/a&gt;: 

True puff

BUT

I was a huge fan especially when he was playing 7 but too much has happened in the last 3 yrs..3 odd good games a yr isnt parrallel to superstar status.

I rate the likes of So&#039;oialo and Kefu far ahead of Joe even though he probably has more talent than them.

Consistency RULES in tests and that equates to legend status.

Big Joe will go down in history in the same mould as Ron Cribb and Troy Flavell(for different reasons)as A WASTE</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#<a href="#comment-1144916" rel="nofollow">14 puff</a>: </p>
<p>True puff</p>
<p>BUT</p>
<p>I was a huge fan especially when he was playing 7 but too much has happened in the last 3 yrs..3 odd good games a yr isnt parrallel to superstar status.</p>
<p>I rate the likes of So&#8217;oialo and Kefu far ahead of Joe even though he probably has more talent than them.</p>
<p>Consistency RULES in tests and that equates to legend status.</p>
<p>Big Joe will go down in history in the same mould as Ron Cribb and Troy Flavell(for different reasons)as A WASTE</p>
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		<title>By: puff</title>
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		<dc:creator>puff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 08:05:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mshini

I like the look of your list for the future.
But Joe always played best for the Boks at 7, in my opinion.
It does seem like he&#039;s easily led astray.
But he&#039;s proved that when he puts his mind to something, he can be formidable.
He was the form loosie at the 2003 WC. 
And, last year, he was determined to get back into the Bok fold.
He was fantastic amid a wooden spoon Lions outfit.
And he was one of the better players for the Boks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mshini</p>
<p>I like the look of your list for the future.<br />
But Joe always played best for the Boks at 7, in my opinion.<br />
It does seem like he&#8217;s easily led astray.<br />
But he&#8217;s proved that when he puts his mind to something, he can be formidable.<br />
He was the form loosie at the 2003 WC.<br />
And, last year, he was determined to get back into the Bok fold.<br />
He was fantastic amid a wooden spoon Lions outfit.<br />
And he was one of the better players for the Boks.</p>
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		<title>By: mshiniwami</title>
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		<dc:creator>mshiniwami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 07:46:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1144820&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;11 puff&lt;/a&gt;: 

Big Joe has no backbone in my opinion.He lets his surroundings make career decisions for him.When he moved to the Cape it was reportedly due to an infactuation with some model etc

His move/non move to Northampton was influenced by his mother,with the claim that he wasnt treated well by SA rugby etc

He finally moves to the Lions who give him an opportunity to sort out his career which was in tatters in 08&#039;,as soon as he plays consistently in S14 and gets Bok call up,played excellently for Boks in Dunedin-HE JUMPS SHIP AGAIN..Off to Toulon...Big Joe is now known as a PAY CHECK PLAYER

That doesnt inspire loyalty even from his most die-hard of fans.

Spies/Kankowski/Vermeulen/Alberts/Koster are the FUTURE

LEAVE THE MERCENARY</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#<a href="#comment-1144820" rel="nofollow">11 puff</a>: </p>
<p>Big Joe has no backbone in my opinion.He lets his surroundings make career decisions for him.When he moved to the Cape it was reportedly due to an infactuation with some model etc</p>
<p>His move/non move to Northampton was influenced by his mother,with the claim that he wasnt treated well by SA rugby etc</p>
<p>He finally moves to the Lions who give him an opportunity to sort out his career which was in tatters in 08&#8242;,as soon as he plays consistently in S14 and gets Bok call up,played excellently for Boks in Dunedin-HE JUMPS SHIP AGAIN..Off to Toulon&#8230;Big Joe is now known as a PAY CHECK PLAYER</p>
<p>That doesnt inspire loyalty even from his most die-hard of fans.</p>
<p>Spies/Kankowski/Vermeulen/Alberts/Koster are the FUTURE</p>
<p>LEAVE THE MERCENARY</p>
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		<title>By: Kid Omo III</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kid Omo III</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 07:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe&#039;s always been a good leader. All the best to him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe&#8217;s always been a good leader. All the best to him.</p>
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		<title>By: puff</title>
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		<dc:creator>puff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 06:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe&#039;s still relatively young for a flank with 50+ test caps.
Wonder whether he&#039;ll try to return to SA in time for 2011 WC.
He did miss out in 07.
How old will he be then?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe&#8217;s still relatively young for a flank with 50+ test caps.<br />
Wonder whether he&#8217;ll try to return to SA in time for 2011 WC.<br />
He did miss out in 07.<br />
How old will he be then?</p>
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		<title>By: King Shark</title>
		<link>http://www.keo.co.za/2009/01/07/big-joe-to-lead-toulon/#comment-1144747</link>
		<dc:creator>King Shark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 05:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1144351&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;9 Craig 6&lt;/a&gt;: Great idea. Or we can trade Luke for Saddam.. oh no, damn! We&#039;re too late!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#<a href="#comment-1144351" rel="nofollow">9 Craig 6</a>: Great idea. Or we can trade Luke for Saddam.. oh no, damn! We&#8217;re too late!</p>
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		<title>By: Craig 6</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig 6</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 16:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We should pay toulon to take watson.... or make a swap for big joe...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We should pay toulon to take watson&#8230;. or make a swap for big joe&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: OCO</title>
		<link>http://www.keo.co.za/2009/01/07/big-joe-to-lead-toulon/#comment-1144332</link>
		<dc:creator>OCO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 15:04:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, but where is he going to led them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, but where is he going to led them?</p>
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		<title>By: Windhoek.Lager</title>
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		<dc:creator>Windhoek.Lager</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 14:50:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Toulon is an example of what happens when you try to buy a team instead of building one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Toulon is an example of what happens when you try to buy a team instead of building one.</p>
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		<title>By: Skim</title>
		<link>http://www.keo.co.za/2009/01/07/big-joe-to-lead-toulon/#comment-1144315</link>
		<dc:creator>Skim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 14:31:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beeg. Very Beeeg. Shoulda bought a few more Saffas...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beeg. Very Beeeg. Shoulda bought a few more Saffas&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: racheltjiedebeer</title>
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		<dc:creator>racheltjiedebeer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 13:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They should play in a big tent. They&#039;re like a circus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They should play in a big tent. They&#8217;re like a circus.</p>
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		<title>By: asha</title>
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		<dc:creator>asha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 13:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1144274&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;3 Kerneels&lt;/a&gt;: 
:grin:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#<a href="#comment-1144274" rel="nofollow">3 Kerneels</a>:<br />
 <img src='http://www.keo.co.za/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':grin:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Kerneels</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kerneels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 13:39:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too many Chiefs, too little injuns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too many Chiefs, too little injuns.</p>
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		<title>By: pedspin</title>
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		<dc:creator>pedspin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 13:24:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Should be interesting....... saffa&#039;s now the mercenaries of world rugby and leaders too it seems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Should be interesting&#8230;&#8230;. saffa&#8217;s now the mercenaries of world rugby and leaders too it seems.</p>
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		<title>By: Sheriff</title>
		<link>http://www.keo.co.za/2009/01/07/big-joe-to-lead-toulon/#comment-1144261</link>
		<dc:creator>Sheriff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 13:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Big Yo!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Big Yo!</p>
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