Mujati concern for Stormers
7 Jan 2009
A shoulder injury incurred on the Springboks’ UK tour could rule Brian Mujati out of the Stormers’ warm-up fixture against Saracens.
Head coach Rassie Erasmus told keo.co.za Mujati’s involvement in the 25 January fixture is ‘touch and go’ at present. The tighthead injured his shoulder against Scotland last November, but still played off the bench against England the very next week.
The Boks were at that stage facing a front row crisis, with Gurthro Steenkamp and Bismarck du Plessis sent home due to injury. Nevertheless, the Stormers may begin the 2009 season without their first-choice No 3.
“The Boks didn’t recognise it as a serious injury right away and I think that was the problem,” Erasmus said. “We will wait until he has recovered fully before considering him for Saracens.”
Erasmus said Conrad Jantjes (groin), Schalk Burger (ankle) and Willem de Waal (hand) are all battling niggling injuries. The good news is players like Gcobani Bobo, Adriaan Fondse and AJ Venter have shown significant progress since succumbing to serious injuries at the end of last season.
The Stormers coach believes his second season in charge will be different as he has wealth of experience to draw on. The Cape franchise were hit by injuries towards the end of the 2008 competition, and the lack of depth was an issue.
The Stormers have also altered their pre-season programme with two friendlies scheduled for late January.
“Time will tell whether it was a good decision to opt for warm up games against both and Saracens and Boland,” said Erasmus. “If we can avoid serious injuries in those games, then I’ll be happy.
“On the other hand I’m glad that we have two games before the season starts. I feel our match fitness was a bit off at the start of last year’s competition, and we only started to show good match fitness from games two and three.”
Erasmus will meet with Bok coach Peter de Villiers on 13 January to discuss various issues including the management of top Test players during the Super 14. The final Stormers squad of 34 is due to be announced on 19 January.
By Jon Cardinelli
488 Comments
7 Jan 2009, 12:58 pm
Mujati Dragon!
7 Jan 2009, 12:59 pm
JC – are they televising the game?
7 Jan 2009, 13:03 pm
AJ Venter!!!! Dude I think it’s time to hang it up.
7 Jan 2009, 13:03 pm
No worries for the Stormers. brok will take his place.
7 Jan 2009, 13:03 pm
NNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!
…
somebody help…
7 Jan 2009, 13:08 pm
#5 SpringbokSarah: please? Anybody?…
I need a superhero…
7 Jan 2009, 13:09 pm
#6 SpringbokSarah: What’s wrong with Brok.
7 Jan 2009, 13:11 pm
a stooooooooooooooooooooooormers thread!!
yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!
7 Jan 2009, 13:13 pm
#7 It is just a game: wasn’t talking about him… talking about the fact that AJ Venter and Hilton Lobberts are in the Cape and gonna bring Stormers down… and Connie injured his groin doing heaven knows what and Schalk the Hulk is injured….
7 Jan 2009, 13:14 pm
#3 Ezee-23:
aj! ag please nooooooooo!!
excuse me guys, just gonna be sick!
will be back soon!
7 Jan 2009, 13:16 pm
#3 Ezee-23: His time has ended… now he’s just catching on nonsense
7 Jan 2009, 13:18 pm
#11 SpringbokSarah:
werent you just plain sarah this morning?
7 Jan 2009, 13:20 pm
#12 asha: Yes but everybody got confused, thought I was an imposter, didn’t believe it was me so I changed back
7 Jan 2009, 13:20 pm
#3 Ezee-23: AJ should have a lot of injuries at the moment from kicking himself. He could’ve been a CC champ.
7 Jan 2009, 13:21 pm
#14 It is just a game: Really wish he was a Shark…
7 Jan 2009, 13:22 pm
#13 SpringbokSarah: Good!
7 Jan 2009, 13:23 pm
Brian Majuti is useless anyway so no loss oh wait WP doesnt have anybody else & throw in that Peter Grant plays for WP they are goin g to really struggle this year
7 Jan 2009, 13:24 pm
JC perhaps you can help here.
In the latest SA Rugby magazine someone from HSM penned an article: “Progression in Perspective” or something or not.
Can’t remember the author now, but in this story quite a bit was made by the author of the ‘apparent’ injury Mujati picked up whereas he believed rushing BJ into the starting line-up against the Poms was just a way for De Villiers to hide the inadequecies of Mujati or Peter realising his mistake…
Help me with the author of that article please.
I think I have a nice letter to write the judge@hsm and perhaps win some booze in doing so…
7 Jan 2009, 13:25 pm
There is just like nobody to talk to!
7 Jan 2009, 13:25 pm
#8 asha: There’s nothing like a Stormers/WP thread for Keo to make a quick couple of bucks.
7 Jan 2009, 13:25 pm
#17 Dodgeball: Yip!!!!! agree.
7 Jan 2009, 13:26 pm
A Stormers thread
Yaaaaawnnnn!!!!!!!!!! zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
7 Jan 2009, 13:26 pm
#16 PostmanPat: what’s wrong with just Sarah?
It’s my name and everybody on here calls me Sarah anyways
7 Jan 2009, 13:26 pm
#21 K9_BaasPatrolliehond: oh & dont forget they have mr wonderful old puke watson
7 Jan 2009, 13:27 pm
#21 K9_BaasPatrolliehond: now I’m so not buying a Lions top
7 Jan 2009, 13:27 pm
#18 PissAnt:
whats the odds that you just talked to the author?
7 Jan 2009, 13:28 pm
#23 SpringbokSarah: Springbok just gives it that extra…:)
7 Jan 2009, 13:28 pm
#25 SpringbokSarah: Not fair
7 Jan 2009, 13:29 pm
#16 PostmanPat & #22 K9_BaasPatrolliehond: Are you 2 always gonna come on at the same time?
7 Jan 2009, 13:29 pm
#22 K9_BaasPatrolliehond:
you dont want us to talk about “The Golden Syrups”, do you?
7 Jan 2009, 13:30 pm
#26 asha:
Might well be Mr. Cardinelli, not sure though.
7 Jan 2009, 13:30 pm
#24 Dodgeball: The future Protea(rugby) captain????
7 Jan 2009, 13:30 pm
#30 asha: At leat they throw up on their jerseys
7 Jan 2009, 13:31 pm
#27 PostmanPat: But in a while they won’t be the Springboks and then it will just look silly
#28 K9_BaasPatrolliehond: hey you need to make Stormers your 2nd team if I have to make Lions mine
and I have no idea who I am talking to
7 Jan 2009, 13:31 pm
#17 Dodgeball: Don’t forget Watson.
7 Jan 2009, 13:32 pm
#29 SpringbokSarah: Hehe…..Im scared to come on on my own….told u before…dangerous bloggers here.
7 Jan 2009, 13:32 pm
At least they dont throw up on their own jerseys sorry typing too fst
7 Jan 2009, 13:32 pm
#33 Dodgeball:
good on you! i thought i’ve been the only one feeling nausea when watching your team … at least they feel the same!
7 Jan 2009, 13:32 pm
#30 asha: Whos that? The Mighty Lions??
7 Jan 2009, 13:33 pm
#37 Dodgeball:
too late, boet!
7 Jan 2009, 13:33 pm
#34 SpringbokSarah: Wow now that will sound a bit weird…(ProteaSarah). Ummm not that bad:wink:
7 Jan 2009, 13:33 pm
#36 K9_BaasPatrolliehond: ai… what are we gonna do? Throw a cyber sheep at you?
7 Jan 2009, 13:33 pm
#35 It is just a game: I didnt WP wouldnt be the same with out good throwing up contest before a match
7 Jan 2009, 13:34 pm
#41 PostmanPat: That sounded even more silly
7 Jan 2009, 13:35 pm
Must Luke Watson come up every day?
7 Jan 2009, 13:35 pm
#39 K9_BaasPatrolliehond:
jep, the matjie lions!
7 Jan 2009, 13:35 pm
#40 asha: Its ok we were talking about lions & I’m a shark so no loss
7 Jan 2009, 13:35 pm
#34 SpringbokSarah: Told u. If Lulu plays for them…….mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
7 Jan 2009, 13:36 pm
#42 SpringbokSarah:
lmao
good one, sarah!
7 Jan 2009, 13:36 pm
#45 SpringbokSarah: Of course & dont defend him he tried to puke on you!!!!
7 Jan 2009, 13:38 pm
#48 K9_BaasPatrolliehond: I’m telling you now Lulu is gonna be dropped
#49 asha: I already threw 1 at him after he cyber poked me 100 times
7 Jan 2009, 13:38 pm
I just can’t wait for the Sharks’ first warm-up game on the 14th of February.
7 Jan 2009, 13:39 pm
#52 It is just a game: Me three
7 Jan 2009, 13:40 pm
#50 Dodgeball: why? Do you hear yourselves? So obsessed with talking about the man… he gets more publicity than Oprah!
7 Jan 2009, 13:40 pm
#52 It is just a game: But if watson plays they will all have to play in raincoats will be alot of springboks on the field
7 Jan 2009, 13:42 pm
#54 SpringbokSarah: More than dr Phil?
7 Jan 2009, 13:42 pm
#52 It is just a game: Who r they playing against?
7 Jan 2009, 13:43 pm
#56 PostmanPat: WAY MORE!
7 Jan 2009, 13:43 pm
#54 SpringbokSarah: because he,s cheeky…. ok I will drop the watson comments for today
7 Jan 2009, 13:43 pm
#57 K9_BaasPatrolliehond: Shall I throw a sheep at you now or later?
7 Jan 2009, 13:44 pm
#59 Dodgeball: No he’s Luke, his father is Cheeky and too late, once his name’s been mentioned there’s no turning back
7 Jan 2009, 13:44 pm
#55 Dodgeball: True, but he’ll have to survive the naartjie and tomato bombarbment when running onto the field first.
7 Jan 2009, 13:45 pm
#57 K9_BaasPatrolliehond: WP
7 Jan 2009, 13:45 pm
#60 SpringbokSarah: Why?
7 Jan 2009, 13:45 pm
#57 K9_BaasPatrolliehond: Some team from the Cape.
7 Jan 2009, 13:46 pm
#64 K9_BaasPatrolliehond: they’re playing the Stormers!
7 Jan 2009, 13:46 pm
#63 Dodgeball: Oh yes. Easy game for the Guppies.
7 Jan 2009, 13:47 pm
#61 SpringbokSarah: Puke I am your father
7 Jan 2009, 13:47 pm
#57 K9_BaasPatrolliehond:
the 2009 s14 champions!
7 Jan 2009, 13:47 pm
#67 K9_BaasPatrolliehond: here comes the shee
*baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah*
7 Jan 2009, 13:48 pm
#66 SpringbokSarah: Stormers who?
7 Jan 2009, 13:48 pm
#69 asha: The Lions????
7 Jan 2009, 13:48 pm
#71 PostmanPat:
refer #69
7 Jan 2009, 13:48 pm
#68 Dodgeball: that is so old… come up with something new please
#69 asha: YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!… I knew I liked you…
7 Jan 2009, 13:49 pm
#69 asha: the 2009 s14 champions! of the wooden spoon
7 Jan 2009, 13:50 pm
#71 PostmanPat: Stormers gonna rock your socks off!
…
no really I still don’t know who I am talking to
7 Jan 2009, 13:50 pm
#72 K9_BaasPatrolliehond:
the lions?
who’s thaT/
oh, its that team with that midget coach that always seem like he’s looking at the moon?
7 Jan 2009, 13:50 pm
Is Brock Harris still with the Stormpies?????
7 Jan 2009, 13:50 pm
#75 Dodgeball: okay now you’re talking about one of the cats
7 Jan 2009, 13:51 pm
#75 Dodgeball:
uhm,
you want another go?
7 Jan 2009, 13:51 pm
Is this still happening was from IOL in December
The Super 14 teams of the Cheetahs and the Sharks will play one another on January 24 next year in Abu Dhabi, the capital of the United Arab Emirates (UAE).
Sport promoter Willem Strauss confirmed that the two South African franchises have accepted the invitation to play a Super 14 warm-up game in Abu Dhabi. This is the first time a Super 14 warm-up game will take place in Abu Dhabi.
7 Jan 2009, 13:52 pm
#74 SpringbokSarah: Ja ok whatever
7 Jan 2009, 13:52 pm
#76 SpringbokSarah: Im the 7th supporter of the Lions..
7 Jan 2009, 13:53 pm
#77 asha: Hahaha.
7 Jan 2009, 13:53 pm
#83 PostmanPat:
the lions have more than one supporter?
7 Jan 2009, 13:54 pm
#85 asha: Hey we r 7!!!!! And Im working on no 8 at the mo.
7 Jan 2009, 13:55 pm
#85 asha: At least seven.
7 Jan 2009, 13:55 pm
#83 PostmanPat: But you and him… and the… never mind… I’ll stay confused
#84 K9_BaasPatrolliehond: I thought it was pretty funny too… but he looks like an elf to me…
7 Jan 2009, 13:55 pm
1. Moller 2. Brits 3. Mujati 4. Fondse 5. Bekker 6. Burger 7. F Louw 8. Vermeulen 9. Januarie 10. Grant 11. Nakelevuki 12. De Villiers 13. Bobo 14. Chavhanga 15. Jantjes 16. Blaauw 17. Fourie 18. Kritzinger 19. Lobberts 20. Venter 21. Myburgh or Melck 22. Koster 23. Watson 24. Conradie 25. De Waal 26. Pieterson 27. Newman 28. Des Fountain 29. Human 30. Montgomery 31. Harris 32. Shimange 33. P Louw or Melck 34. Hoffman
Too many flanks as locks, but otherwise not too shabby.
7 Jan 2009, 13:55 pm
#85 asha: I know I was shocked too!
7 Jan 2009, 13:56 pm
#85 asha: I know…We are getting there. Up to 7 now
7 Jan 2009, 13:56 pm
#89 puff: where’d you get that?!?!
7 Jan 2009, 13:56 pm
#89 puff: Only about 4 players of note in that group
7 Jan 2009, 13:56 pm
So he is not going to play in a meaningless warm up game. The first choice players hardly ever do. I just can’t believe that Rassie hasn’t bought a few better front rowers in the off season.
7 Jan 2009, 13:56 pm
#90 SpringbokSarah:
7 Jan 2009, 13:57 pm
#95 asha: No really! I thought they didn’t have supporters!
7 Jan 2009, 13:58 pm
#96 SpringbokSarah: Hey hey hey!!!!!
7 Jan 2009, 13:59 pm
#97 K9_BaasPatrolliehond: you know how shocked I was when I hear/ read you supported the Lions! Almost fell off the chair!
7 Jan 2009, 14:02 pm
#98 SpringbokSarah: By the end of the season ur going to be LionsSarah.
7 Jan 2009, 14:02 pm
#18 PissAnt:
Yes I remember that/those articles P.A
Something about injury to Mujati to cover up his inadiquacies etc
A lot of muppets on this site jumping on the bandwagon
Now look…The boy was really injured
7 Jan 2009, 14:03 pm
I’ve already changed this into a Lions thread
7 Jan 2009, 14:03 pm
#99 K9_BaasPatrolliehond: Not a chance… that ship has sailed
7 Jan 2009, 14:03 pm
#99 K9_BaasPatrolliehond: Now THAT has a good sound to it! You are the 8th supporter…
7 Jan 2009, 14:04 pm
#99 K9_BaasPatrolliehond: Now That has a good sound to is! You are the 8th supporter…
7 Jan 2009, 14:05 pm
#104 PostmanPat: Stuttering?
7 Jan 2009, 14:05 pm
#102 SpringbokSarah: I like the sound of SarahShark.
7 Jan 2009, 14:06 pm
My finger slipped…ooops
7 Jan 2009, 14:06 pm
And now for the Sharks:
1. Mtawarira 2. Du Plessis 3. Du Plessis 4. Sykes 5. Muller 6. Botes 7. Deyzel 8. Kankowski 9. Kockott 10. Pienaar 11. Pieterson 12. Steyn 13. Jacobs 14. Ndungane 15. Terblanche 16. Carstens 17. Smit 18. Cilliers 19. Van Den Bergh 20. Hargreaves 21. Ndlovu 22. Blignaut 23. Daniel 24. McLoud 25. Len Olivier 26. Mentz 27. A Strauss 28. Murray 29. Swanepoel 30. Dumond
31. R Harris 32. Burden 33. N. Strauss 34. Jordaan
7 Jan 2009, 14:07 pm
#106 It is just a game: Sarah the Lioness.
7 Jan 2009, 14:07 pm
#106 It is just a game: hehe does have a nice ring to it
7 Jan 2009, 14:08 pm
Sarah….. has a runny nose…
7 Jan 2009, 14:09 pm
#109 K9_BaasPatrolliehond: ok now I have to admit that sounds cool… the rest are horrible
7 Jan 2009, 14:09 pm
Go and catch it…
7 Jan 2009, 14:09 pm
#108 puff: Oooohhhh nice team some newbies to super 14 their worry about A strauss hasnt impressed the last few games I watched guys ran through his tackels way easy
7 Jan 2009, 14:09 pm
#108 puff: Are these your picks or the actual team?
7 Jan 2009, 14:10 pm
#113 PostmanPat: catch what?
7 Jan 2009, 14:10 pm
your nose…
7 Jan 2009, 14:11 pm
#114 Dodgeball: Swanepoel is much better back-up at center.
7 Jan 2009, 14:11 pm
#115 SpringbokSarah: Its the teams for the season
7 Jan 2009, 14:12 pm
#118 It is just a game: The guys got some great pace aswell
7 Jan 2009, 14:12 pm
#117 PostmanPat: ai…. I have a fever too… better cancel my movie date with Lea…
7 Jan 2009, 14:12 pm
#120 Dodgeball: And he’s a nice guy
7 Jan 2009, 14:13 pm
#118 It is just a game: Is Menz the team water boy?
7 Jan 2009, 14:13 pm
Not like the stormers had a front row to start with; now it is non existent. Oh dear.
7 Jan 2009, 14:14 pm
#121 SpringbokSarah: Lea?
7 Jan 2009, 14:14 pm
#122 SpringbokSarah: seems like it
7 Jan 2009, 14:14 pm
I suspect Connie Jantjes’ groin injury has a lot to do with Rene Lombard being the phsyiotherapist there.
7 Jan 2009, 14:14 pm
Springbok Sarah
Teams haven’t been officially announced yet – except for the Bulls.
These are my squad predictions.
7 Jan 2009, 14:16 pm
#127 Sheriff: I really don;t wanna know how that happened
#125 PostmanPat: Lea-ann… one of my bst friends
#128 puff: okay thanks
7 Jan 2009, 14:16 pm
#98 SpringbokSarah:
shame sarah, its not his
…
or for that matter, any of the bulls supporters’ faults,
that
they were born stupid!
you should have empathy for such people!
7 Jan 2009, 14:17 pm
#124 pedspin: Until the stormers sort out their light five…they r always going to struggle.
7 Jan 2009, 14:18 pm
#128 puff: Sharks have basicly named that side allready barring I dont think metz will be there
7 Jan 2009, 14:18 pm
#127 Sheriff:
dont think renay is at the stormers anymore, which is quite a shame! i always liked the injury breaks at stormers games!
7 Jan 2009, 14:20 pm
need mujati to tame the beast!! Damn…this is where depth such a factor…Rassie we need at least 1 more quality lock,prop and 13!!
7 Jan 2009, 14:20 pm
#130 asha: rofl
7 Jan 2009, 14:21 pm
#134 grant10: He shoudn’t have bought Lobberts
7 Jan 2009, 14:22 pm
#134 grant10: & 10
7 Jan 2009, 14:22 pm
Piy their backline at times is amongst the most exciting to watch. Rassie, being a wylie old dog, surprises me in not buying some big boys. Even worth getting Visagie from the pension barracks if it means he could hold the scrum steady.
Any takers on an Australian (aka Baa Baa) style tactic of front rowers being injured ergo uncontested scrums in the first 4 games of S14 for the stormers?
7 Jan 2009, 14:25 pm
#138 pedspin: WP has used those tactics before.
7 Jan 2009, 14:25 pm
#129 SpringbokSarah:
I’m not suggesting Rene injured him, but just most players have a niggle here and there. His = the groin.
No wonder he broke up with Tammy Fortuin – spending too much time with the physio.
7 Jan 2009, 14:25 pm
Sarah’s feeling awful so Sarah’s gonna go sleep…
Bye bye guys…. if I’m alive tonight I’ll log on
7 Jan 2009, 14:26 pm
#139 It is just a game: The weakness in last years stromers team was the front row you would think Rassie would have made plan by now & all
7 Jan 2009, 14:26 pm
#133 asha:
You must have been delighted to see the same personnel during Boks injuries breaks
7 Jan 2009, 14:28 pm
#141 SpringbokSarah: Cheers SharkSarah
7 Jan 2009, 14:29 pm
#142 Dodgeball: That’s been their weakness for a while now. Luckily my Sharks have enough world class frontrowers.
7 Jan 2009, 14:31 pm
#145 It is just a game: Ay dont tune my sharks too man
7 Jan 2009, 14:31 pm
#127 Sheriff: why do you say so?
7 Jan 2009, 14:33 pm
#147 XhosaKid:
See post 140
7 Jan 2009, 14:45 pm
#137 Dodgeball: true!
7 Jan 2009, 14:45 pm
#143 Sheriff:
yebo! i just loooooooooove the injury breaks!
7 Jan 2009, 14:47 pm
#136 SpringbokSarah: interesting buy that…Rassie is pretty astute so lets wait and see…personally dont understand the percy and aj buys…or for that matter willem de waal!
7 Jan 2009, 14:52 pm
Last year I remember the Stormers had also 2 warm-ups and they were not match-ready for the first match. There matches was not again good opposition and I think they are again going to struggle in their first match!
Rassie now says: The Stormers have also altered their pre-season programme with two friendlies scheduled for late January.
“Time will tell whether it was a good decision to opt for warm up games against both and Saracens and Boland,” said Erasmus. “If we can avoid serious injuries in those games, then I’ll be happy.
“On the other hand I’m glad that we have two games before the season starts. I feel our match fitness was a bit off at the start of last year’s competition, and we only started to show good match fitness from games two and three.”
This is not correct as this will be the same preparation then last year!
7 Jan 2009, 14:52 pm
#151 grant10:
willem de waal wasnt a bad buy (until he started playing, that is),
percy .. well percy could add much needed experience when needed
aj … i remember an instance last year (cc) where aj had to sprint 10 m for a try .. the whole bench (including rassie) were cheering him, and laughing their asses off when he actually made it … which (i think) proves that especially rassie knew that aj was on his last legs when he contracted him, and that for me is a problem cause i really cant see any positives that aj bring to the team!
7 Jan 2009, 14:56 pm
#153 asha:
Raak nog steeds gewoond aan die naam sonder die 1.
Dis asof jy jou hare kort gesny het.
7 Jan 2009, 14:58 pm
#154 Sheriff:
7 Jan 2009, 14:58 pm
#153 asha: AJ cant be playing this season I thought last years was his final, final as he has put it for the last three years
7 Jan 2009, 15:02 pm
110 Zulushark Report comment
November 20th, 2008 at 3:19 pm
#91 It is just a game:
Did you miss mujati having his head shoved through the area where the son dont shine last saturday ?
the selctors are admitting they made a mistake
112 Cheetha Champs Report comment
November 20th, 2008 at 3:19 pm
#91 It is just a game: The answer is simple – Mujati is NEVER the 2nd best no 3 in SA.
PDV is caught out (as was Jake) by picking players on colour and then post rationalising their inclusion on perfromance. But when the going gets tough – he calls Jannie.
When the pressure is on – transformation goes out the window – no matter whether the coach is black, white, pink or green
7 Jan 2009, 15:03 pm
where all the menses?
7 Jan 2009, 15:05 pm
“November 17th, 2008
Jannie best bet for Twickers
Posted in JC on tour by JC
Jannie du Plessis must start at Twickenham if the Springboks are to have any hope of besting the English scrum.
Multiple front-row injuries have cut short the John Smit-tighthead experiment, and now there is talk of Brian Mujati having a sore shoulder. Du Plessis was recently called to London as his brother Bismarck and prop Gurthro Steenkamp were simultaneously released from the Bok camp. Du Plessis is likely to face one of the world’s premier looseheads in Andrew Sheridan this Saturday, and from the vibe gathered at Monday’s press conference, the Boks are feeling confident about the match up.
A World Cup winner in 2007, Du Plessis was deemed surplus to Bok requirements in 2008. He received a recall against Australia for the Ellis Park Test when CJ van der Linde was suspended and BJ Botha had left for Ireland, and did a solid job. This was on the back of a strong showing with his new Super 14 franchise, the Sharks. Many felt he was an unfortunate omission when the Boks’ UK touring squad was announced given the nature of the game up north and how Du Plessis’s strengths would be valuable.
If the Bok management pick Du Plessis to start this Saturday, it’s a sure acknowledgment of his value in northern conditions. Mujati has battled for the better part of the year, and does not boast the technical experience that comes with winning three Currie Cups and a World Cup winners medal. Mujati may be more mobile than Du Plessis, but it is the latter who will make the greater impact at the tight-phases. Up north, you need to favour set-phase proficiency over athleticism. Jake White applied this logic when playing Danie Rossouw at No 8 in last year’s World Cup, and look what came from that decision.
The question will be raised that if Mujati is fit enough to warm the bench this weekend, why isn’t he fit enough to start? The troubling answer may also point to another question as to whether he deserved a squad place ahead of seasoned specialists like Van der Linde, Botha and Du Plessis.
The same applies for Bulls hooker Chiliboy Ralepelle. If your first-choice hooker is injured, surely you’d back your second choice to slot in. It’s become accepted that Smit fulfills the hooking duties in the event of injury as he did last week, but if Smit is really supposed to concentrating on prop and Ralepelle is truly the understudy to Bismarck du Plessis, then why shouldn’t Ralepelle start this weekend? Smit’s covering for Du Plessis is only supposed to be in emergencies, as his own development at 3 was a priority on this tour.
Ralepelle has had little game time in the past two years and won his place on this tour ahead of more deserving players such as Adriaan Strauss. Strauss joined the Bok side when Smit was ruled him out of the Tri-Nations, and started for the Boks when Bismarck broke down. How Ralepelle has leapfrogged him in the hooking queue is anybody’s guess.
While calling up Jannie du Plessis is the right short-term solution, it speaks volumes for De Villiers’s lack of confidence in Mujati and Ralepelle. It may also say something about the move of Smit to tighthead, a move De Villiers promised was a long-term initiative with a view to the British & Irish Lions series and the 2011 World Cup. Either play Ralepelle at No 2 with Smit at 3, or call up Strauss to fill the hooking void. That would suggest continuity and a long-term plan.
But it’s become clear there is no plan, or at least there is little confidence in the fringe players already in the squad. Du Plessis is the best bet to scrum against Sheridan this weekend, and the Boks have a realistic chance of winning this battle. If one remembers that Mujati and Ralepelle are likely to remain in the set-up come the Lions series, then one has to ask why they aren’t being pushed through in what will be the ultimate acid Test at Twickenham. The Boks may win this Saturday, but they won’t learn anything new. “
7 Jan 2009, 15:06 pm
#157 WP Till I Die: not knocking the point your making & agree with it just wondering which barlle (article) did you scrape those bloggs from?
7 Jan 2009, 15:10 pm
hello …. (echo) ……hello…..(echo) ……hello?????
7 Jan 2009, 15:11 pm
#156 Dodgeball:
i really do hope that last year was indeed his last season. if for some unexplainable reason wprugby had contracted him for a longer period (with wprugby, i wont be surprised), i hope that he will be utilised where he can help up and coming youngsters with their game. do hope i wont see him playing for either wp or stormers this year, though!
7 Jan 2009, 15:13 pm
#18 PissAnt: Sure thing, glad to help.
My point at that instance was why, if Mujati was truly injured, was he not excluded from Bok 22? Surely if you’re not fit enough to start you’re not fit enough to warm the bench, especially if you’re a prop in your first season of Test rugby.
It looked to be a straight swap for the stronger scrummager in Jannie du Plessis. If Mujati was injured, he should have been left out and another replacement (CJ van der Linde who was on standby according to De Villiers) should have been flown in. That he was merely pushed to the bench did suggest De Villiers was not keen for Mujati to start due to his shortcomings.
Turns out Mujati was genuinely injured, but according to Erasmus, the Bok management were unaware of the seriousness of his injury.
I look forward to your letter.
7 Jan 2009, 15:13 pm
#162 asha: Can utilise him as a tackle dummy can still pass on some XP that way
7 Jan 2009, 15:14 pm
#159 WP Till I Die:
see, i was correct then!
can only be jc that write such k@k!
btw, anyone seen dear simon around here?
7 Jan 2009, 15:15 pm
#153 asha: wylie human also debatable purchase
7 Jan 2009, 15:15 pm
13 Craig Goosen Report comment
November 21st, 2008 at 6:10 am
Can anybody please explain the following to me :
PDV said that the strongest possible squad was chosen to go to the UK. Why then has Jannie du Plessis come over as a replacement, and been selected ahead of Brian Mujati against England. I cant understand this.
7 Jan 2009, 15:17 pm
#166 grant10: Ooohhh ja forgot about that one hes like a old Earl Rose
7 Jan 2009, 15:19 pm
One of my favourites though, just before the England game…
“41 WP Till I Die Report comment
November 19th, 2008 at 8:35 am
Boks by 20.”
7 Jan 2009, 15:20 pm
#168 Dodgeball: #168 Dodgeball: We can put a decent starting 22 together…1 or 2 injuries though and we in big trouble!!
7 Jan 2009, 15:22 pm
#167 WP Till I Die:
wonder who has a bigger ego
…
jc or kp?
7 Jan 2009, 15:24 pm
#170 grant10: Suspect sharks will want to run it a bit first game of the super 14 test Stormers defence a bit so Stormers forwards should be Ok but agree with you same with lions they can front a good side till one injury stormers got good backup in the backline though lions dont have any back up really worth mentioning
7 Jan 2009, 15:24 pm
#171 asha:
shouldve been “the biggest”
7 Jan 2009, 15:25 pm
#163 JC:
You will recall that in the press releases after the Scotland match starting from the Monday already the Springbok management said that Mujati was nursing a bruised shoulder but that they were confident he would recover in time before the match against England.
This continued right up until the Thursday, when the squad was announced, with Jannie du Plessis starting on Mujati on the bench. When the squad was announced, Peter de Villiers again stated that they were waiting for the physio’s report but that they were hoping that Mujati could recover in time before the match.
Mujati would have been rested that entire week to prevent aggravating the shoulder. Du Plessis would have been slotting in with Smit and Beast during practice.
Come Saturday, and it appears Mujati has still not fully recovered from his shoulder (which appeared to not be as serious as initially thought). Du Plessis has practiced with the team. From a tactical point of view it makes more sense then to start with the player that has been practising with the run-on team. They also probably felt that, rather than risking Mujati having to go off early, leave him on the bench as cover which limits the playing time, again to prevent possible further injury to a bruised shoulder they were initially confident would be recovered by match day.
7 Jan 2009, 15:28 pm
#170 grant10: cheers grant off home
7 Jan 2009, 15:29 pm
cheers asha sorry about the stupid wooden spoon comment was a bit lame
7 Jan 2009, 15:38 pm
#163 JC:
“My point at that instance was ……”
“It looked to be ….”
nothing wrong with the first two statements. you’re a journalist (although i think you’re a journalist’s *ss), so you’re supposed to make deductions (again, my humble opinion is that i dont believe you’re able to make any!)
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“…. who was on standby …… according to De Villiers”???????
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and then of course, my favourate part of your comment is that you still go on and conclude: ” That he was merely pushed to the bench did suggest De Villiers was not keen for Mujati to start due to his shortcomings”
theres two things here that baffles me:
1. how the heck you arrived at the conclusion (even with new evidence to consider)
2. how keo can keep on paying you for the sh*t you dish up here!
7 Jan 2009, 15:40 pm
#176 Dodgeball:
i know!
cheers, broe! enjoy!
7 Jan 2009, 15:42 pm
Mujati actually did quite well in the S14 2008 season.
I was disappointed with his progress in the green and gold, if one considers that he made his debut at more or less the same time as Beast.
Beast as we all know, has been sensational !
7 Jan 2009, 16:17 pm
Surely, somewhere in this country there is a decent No3 that Rassie can find… Even from Argentina or something if not here.
Or Georgia
Or Romania
Or Poffadder…
7 Jan 2009, 16:23 pm
Eddie Jones’s recruitment drive. He’s bought a Bull, a Shark now its time for a Stormer.
7 Jan 2009, 16:35 pm
People forget that Mujati dominmated all-comers in the 2008 Super14. No one batted an eyelid when he was picked for the Boks but now suddenly he’s rubbish? I don’t believe that for one moment. Stormers have some real talent and if they can pull it together like late in last years comp they’re gonna be difficult to beat.
Guys like Duanne Vermeulen, Bekker, Louw and Grant not to mention J Div…
Hope it’s a good one for da Stooomas.
7 Jan 2009, 16:37 pm
#106 It is just a game: I think you have gone but just in case you come back and check – I like this name for you, we Shark supporters need your positivity !
7 Jan 2009, 16:38 pm
#106 It is just a game: Sorry the message just sent was for Sarahshark !
7 Jan 2009, 18:11 pm
#163 JC: “The stronger scrummager in Jannie du Plessis”????
Which performances have you been watching, dude?
But I suppose that’s the great thing about the scrum, and about props. Unless there’s an actual tight-head situation (i.e. where it’s obvious that one side has been dominated), most of the time no-one except the participants can actually tell what’s going on in there. Hence, you can say what you like about props, because you’re never going to be proved wrong.
7 Jan 2009, 18:52 pm
Where is everybody?
7 Jan 2009, 18:54 pm
Ai… are you all gonna try to convert me now? Sorry guys Stormers for life…
7 Jan 2009, 19:11 pm
*sigh* I know at least 5 of you guests have accounts… log on please!
7 Jan 2009, 19:12 pm
#179 Sheriff: agreed
7 Jan 2009, 19:16 pm
Prrrrrooooooovince!
Yes?
No?
Maybe?
7 Jan 2009, 19:20 pm
#190 SpringbokSarah: LIONS!
7 Jan 2009, 19:24 pm
The silence given you mpd then Sarah?
7 Jan 2009, 19:25 pm
#191 SpringbokSarah:
7 Jan 2009, 19:27 pm
#193 K9_BaasPatrolliehond: Barking up the wrong tree with that team.
7 Jan 2009, 19:29 pm
#194 pedspin: Ah well….i was born a lion and i will die a lion. Nothing will change that.
7 Jan 2009, 19:45 pm
#195 K9_BaasPatrolliehond: Nothing wrong with that. True supporter through good and bad are worth their weight in gold. How Louis riches were wasted is beyond me, still it seems like a team on the up.
7 Jan 2009, 20:02 pm
#192 pedspin: what’s mpd?
#193 K9_BaasPatrolliehond: I was waiting for that… but then I got bored and went to get water…
7 Jan 2009, 20:04 pm
#196 pedspin: Yeah…i dont know what happened. But i so wish they would build another stadium. Not nice to go to Ellispark.
7 Jan 2009, 20:05 pm
#197 SpringbokSarah: U know how to lure me out of my hidingplace.
7 Jan 2009, 20:05 pm
I think between Dubai and this cold I have gone crazy…
7 Jan 2009, 20:06 pm
#199 K9_BaasPatrolliehond: rofl
7 Jan 2009, 20:08 pm
I reckon I could make the Lions my 3rd team… if I tried very hard
7 Jan 2009, 20:14 pm
S T O R M E R S………
How did that sound, I am practicing……
7 Jan 2009, 20:15 pm
Oh no, Conrad Jantjes is injured……OH YES, THAT SHOULD MEAN THAT
PERCY IS PLAYING…… Ye ha…
7 Jan 2009, 20:17 pm
#203 carol: YAY! Sounded amazing!
#204 carol: Thought you would enjoy that
7 Jan 2009, 20:17 pm
#202 SpringbokSarah: Hi Sarah, If you see Grant tell him I am back a bit later!!!
7 Jan 2009, 20:18 pm
#206 carol: oki doki… he was on a few minutes ago though
7 Jan 2009, 20:59 pm
GRANT! carol said she’d be back later
7 Jan 2009, 21:06 pm
#208 SpringbokSarah: Hi, nasty sniffle you have there……I blame the recycled air on the plane back to C.T!
7 Jan 2009, 21:07 pm
Howdy cowgirls.
7 Jan 2009, 21:08 pm
So when do we hear that Percy is making his 2009 debut for the Stormers?
Conrad really needs to give that groin a good rest
Don’t race back Conrad…
7 Jan 2009, 21:09 pm
#210 wooden spoon: Yee, Haa Spooner, hot diggety dog….
7 Jan 2009, 21:09 pm
#209 carol: yeah it’s horrible… can’t even talk… what a waste of a holiday
#210 wooden spoon: hello
7 Jan 2009, 21:10 pm
#211 carol: Percy’s better than Janjtes anyway. Even as a geriatric!
7 Jan 2009, 21:11 pm
Just popped in to say hello, got to get on with some other stuff now. Ciao.
7 Jan 2009, 21:12 pm
#213 SpringbokSarah: Cape Towns loss was the Keo bloggers gain…….
Imagine how this blog would have limped over the festive sportless period (Ok some stunning cricket) without your wit and boundless energy.
7 Jan 2009, 21:13 pm
#214 wooden spoon: Of course I am in complete agreement with you there my learned friend.
You were up at some unearthly hour this morning, are you actually going for a kip?
7 Jan 2009, 21:15 pm
#215 wooden spoon: bye bye…
#216 carol: I talked to myself more than I tlaked to anybody else… kinda sad really…
7 Jan 2009, 21:16 pm
#214 wooden spoon: agreed… even in his “old age”
7 Jan 2009, 21:17 pm
So K.P has gone……..Does your Biff have an English mother or something like that, we need another useful Saffa!
Would he come and play for us in England if we crossed his palm with silver…..
Like his guts and tenacity, he must be a “bit” English !! LOL
7 Jan 2009, 21:17 pm
#218 SpringbokSarah: tlaked = talked
7 Jan 2009, 21:17 pm
#216 carol: This site would have half the number of hits without you, Sarah and skopskiet. In previous years this site would have been dead over December and January.
Keo should pay you guys some of his advertising revenue.
7 Jan 2009, 21:17 pm
#213 SpringbokSarah: But u r talking here?
7 Jan 2009, 21:18 pm
#219 SpringbokSarah: Would you “youngsters” stop going on about Percys age. He is 34., ok 35 in March but March is ages away…..
7 Jan 2009, 21:18 pm
#220 carol: Smittie ain’t going anywhere… or I’ll take that bat and hit him…
7 Jan 2009, 21:19 pm
#220 carol: Smith has changed a lot. A couple of years back he was one of the most unpopular sportsmen in SA.
I’m glad things have changed. It’s good having a captain you can respect.
7 Jan 2009, 21:20 pm
#222 wooden spoon: I would settle for the “Craig Martini” time management diary……..I am not managing my time at all well when I am on here LOL
So hits mean revenue!! Food for thought….
7 Jan 2009, 21:20 pm
#223 K9_BaasPatrolliehond: I’m typing… I sound like golem when I try to talk… even my own mother told me to shut up
#224 carol: In rugby that is old, you can’t play when you’re 35… been banged up too many times… Percy is the exception
7 Jan 2009, 21:20 pm
#223 K9_BaasPatrolliehond: Hi K9, you any good with a cricket bat? English mother perhaps?
7 Jan 2009, 21:21 pm
#225 SpringbokSarah: What, and break his other hand !
7 Jan 2009, 21:21 pm
#226 wooden spoon: even though I hate cricket… ok not so much anymore… always liked him.. no clue why though
7 Jan 2009, 21:22 pm
#228 SpringbokSarah: He hasn’t reached Johan Ackerman’s level yet – what was it – 38 years old?
7 Jan 2009, 21:22 pm
#230 carol: Yup…
So if I was him I’d really not think about moving
7 Jan 2009, 21:23 pm
#226 wooden spoon: I thought we “did”, until this morning…..we were pinning our hopes on K.P.
The rugby has gone up the shoot too, no wonder I follow S.A sporting heros!!
7 Jan 2009, 21:24 pm
#228 SpringbokSarah: You should know having snuggled up to him in the flesh
I wonder if he knows he has cuddled the blogger of renoun “SpringbokSarah”.
7 Jan 2009, 21:25 pm
#234 carol: Kevin Pietersen is not the type of player you can respect unfortunately. He doesn’t imbue the proper spirit of cricket.
7 Jan 2009, 21:26 pm
#233 SpringbokSarah: I can see him giving you his passport……he looks very scared!
7 Jan 2009, 21:26 pm
#232 wooden spoon: gg, then he needs to go
#235 carol: haha… no when i meet them I don’t tell them who I am (Stormers Blog & keo)… they might just run away
7 Jan 2009, 21:29 pm
#237 carol: rofl… he should be, I’m about as dangerous with cricket bat as JDV is with a rugby ball
I swear my dad wanted me to be a boy…
7 Jan 2009, 21:29 pm
#236 wooden spoon: I think I was being results driven not focusing on personality…….Look at Atherton and Vaughan!!.
WE WANT TO WIN FOR A CHANGE….. FOR PETE’S SAKE……Hell, we English used to be world beaters in nearly every sport, where did we go wrong?
7 Jan 2009, 21:30 pm
#240 carol: you let SA back in
7 Jan 2009, 21:31 pm
Jim T and Puma just pop in and say “Hi” .
Puma, there is a nice glass of red wine with your name on it…
7 Jan 2009, 21:31 pm
#234 carol: Hi Carol. Just saying hello quick here. Just watched Sky News here. They just don’t seem happy with KP at all. Seemed he was using his big mouth again. Sorry but that how it is with him. Sending e-mails to the ECB from here in SA while on holiday here trying to get rid of the coach. It seemed to backfire on him and now he is had to step down as captain.
Anyway how was our Magnificent Captain. Mr fantastic G. Smith. Just could not believe it when he came out to bat. Well yes I did say yesterday GS would do just that. But as the game went on thought he may not do it but there he came out to try and save the game with that broken hand and damaged elbow. Huge respect to him. Also to see the Sydney crowd all stand up and clap and clap for him was just awesome.
#236 wooden spoon: agree spooner.
7 Jan 2009, 21:31 pm
#241 SpringbokSarah: At least your are **** at football…..
7 Jan 2009, 21:32 pm
Okay how many bloggers hide out under guests?
7 Jan 2009, 21:33 pm
#243 Puma: Did you see I had just offered you a glass of red wine?
I was not really aware of the KP baggage, had prefered to block it out…
He suddenly made our team wake up and do something, we were delighted…
7 Jan 2009, 21:34 pm
#244 carol: that is an understatement… poor bafana bafana
7 Jan 2009, 21:34 pm
Jim are you slogging away reading all todays news again?
Please report back…..
7 Jan 2009, 21:35 pm
The king is back….
7 Jan 2009, 21:35 pm
#236 wooden spoon: why? what does he do?
7 Jan 2009, 21:35 pm
#246 carol: Thanks for the wine carol.lol.
Think KP will still play for England but not as the captain. Just watching Sky News.
7 Jan 2009, 21:35 pm
#240 carol: I doubt Pietersen had much to with the results personally (maybe a little as the new captain) because it appears from rumours doing the rounds that not all of the team are behind him.
7 Jan 2009, 21:36 pm
#249 Luke is king: MUFASA!
…
think I’m gonna call the kitten that…
7 Jan 2009, 21:36 pm
#247 SpringbokSarah: Hey, but it is only a matter of time. The British are eating themselves into oblivion….there will be no one to replace the retired footballers the youth will all be obese diabetics!
7 Jan 2009, 21:36 pm
#244 carol: We are useless at football. lol. But our rugby and cricket is looking very good.
7 Jan 2009, 21:37 pm
#254 carol: roflmao…
can’t be that bad…
7 Jan 2009, 21:38 pm
#250 SpringbokSarah: Divisive. Egotistical. Puts himself before the team. Controversy also follows him (much in the same way it follows Puke).
Just ask Jason Gallian, his ex captain at Nottinghamshire.
7 Jan 2009, 21:38 pm
#251 Puma: That is if he decides to return from his holiday….South Africa much better than here at present. I live in Oxfordshire minus 13 last night!! Arghhhhh…..that is what Soda Joe has to put up with!
7 Jan 2009, 21:39 pm
#257 wooden spoon: I see… shame… poor team mates
7 Jan 2009, 21:39 pm
#252 wooden spoon: I will have to start reading WRS edition of “The Cricketer”, actually they don’t do gossip…….
7 Jan 2009, 21:39 pm
The press here are reporting that Pietersen wasn’t prepared to accept Moores as coach because he had achieved far less as a player than himself – Moores didn’t play for England.
7 Jan 2009, 21:41 pm
#260 carol: rumours being what the press are reporting, all unsubstantiated so far, of course…
7 Jan 2009, 21:42 pm
#261 wooden spoon: that’s silly… and funny
7 Jan 2009, 21:42 pm
Ok, now I have to go.
Sala kahle.
7 Jan 2009, 21:42 pm
#251 Puma: Watch this space then
#255 Puma: Your rugby looking good, especially JDV, Frans and Percy…LOL !! Not sure about the cricketers yet!
7 Jan 2009, 21:43 pm
#256 SpringbokSarah: Sarah believe me the youth of this country is grazing itself to death……I want to slap most of them and send them out for a run, sadly that would finnish most of them off!
Lardy Ar*es…
7 Jan 2009, 21:44 pm
#258 carol: Saw on Sky News KP at Durban airport. So he was on his way out tonight. Think he as here for a 3 week holiday. Went to the Kruger Park then came here to Durbs to visit his parents. But his on that plane back to England tonight.
I am out of here now. Need a early night after all the late nights.
Cheers carol and everyone.
7 Jan 2009, 21:45 pm
#264 wooden spoon: “Genet you drome”….did you get the perfect inflection and accent with that departing shot Spooner?
7 Jan 2009, 21:46 pm
#267 Puma:Thanks for dropping in Puma, go and remind the wife what you look like
!!
7 Jan 2009, 21:46 pm
#229 carol: Goeie naand Carol. Im retired
7 Jan 2009, 21:46 pm
#266 carol: that’s horrible… and to think 2 years ago my dad wanted to move there…
#267 Puma: bye bye Puma
7 Jan 2009, 21:46 pm
#255 Puma: Bafana seem to be getting back to winning ways…I see another crop of players are moving to Europe soon..
7 Jan 2009, 21:47 pm
Sarah, what did we do to scare K9 away? do you think he is on Facebook at the moment LOL !!
7 Jan 2009, 21:47 pm
#272 Luke is king: NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
….
flipping hate it when they do that… if they wanna play for the national team they should have to stay in SA… I feel the same way about the Boks
7 Jan 2009, 21:48 pm
#271 SpringbokSarah: Besides the “fat kids” it is a great place to be, just ask Spooner….
7 Jan 2009, 21:48 pm
CHEETTTAAAAHHS!!!
7 Jan 2009, 21:48 pm
#273 carol: what do you mean? He’s right here
7 Jan 2009, 21:49 pm
#270 K9_BaasPatrolliehond: What Sleepie Byes already K9…..just stay for 5 more minutes !!
7 Jan 2009, 21:49 pm
#275 carol: ai… I highly doubt Miss Positivity is gonna move…
#276 Cheetahj: what about em?
7 Jan 2009, 21:50 pm
#270 K9_BaasPatrolliehond: K9..what happening with the lions..any new signings..sticking with the same coach??
7 Jan 2009, 21:50 pm
#276 Cheetahj: S T O R M E R S…….
7 Jan 2009, 21:51 pm
B R I N G
B A C K
P E R C Y…….LET HIM KICK AGAINST THE SHARKS….
7 Jan 2009, 21:51 pm
#281 carol: VRYYSTAAAAAAAAT!
7 Jan 2009, 21:52 pm
#282 carol: Yes please
7 Jan 2009, 21:52 pm
#279 SpringbokSarah</a Are you an adult at 18 in S.A or is it 21?
7 Jan 2009, 21:53 pm
#283 Cheetahj: I have no idea what that means, you will need to translate….
7 Jan 2009, 21:53 pm
#283 Cheetahj: PRROOOOOOOVINCE!!!!!!
7 Jan 2009, 21:53 pm
#285 carol: How did I do that orange writing?
7 Jan 2009, 21:54 pm
#285 carol: 18… I think
#286 carol: Free State… home to the Cheetahs
7 Jan 2009, 21:54 pm
#278 carol: I didnt say good night
7 Jan 2009, 21:55 pm
#274 SpringbokSarah: Does not work the same in football…the greatest game on earth. IN terms of rugby…SA represents a massive stage. Tri-nations and the S14 is the big if not the best. IN terms of football there are 20 top leagues in the world.
7 Jan 2009, 21:55 pm
#151 grant10</Grant, how could you say you don’t understand why the Stormers bought Percy. It’s obvious they knew Conrad was going to injure his groin…..
7 Jan 2009, 21:55 pm
#288 carol: you may have deleted the last “>”… you see those >s open tags and the /> close tags…
Mr Boulle would be so proud…
7 Jan 2009, 21:55 pm
#292 carol: I did orange writing again!! I now know how!!
7 Jan 2009, 21:56 pm
#285 carol: It was 21, but according to a court decicion last it’s now 18, although the rule books are not rewritten yet.
7 Jan 2009, 21:56 pm
#280 Luke is king: Jaa man. Same coach…..nothing exciting really. I’ll wait and see.
7 Jan 2009, 21:56 pm
#288 carol: Dont do it again. Its tough on these tired eyes of mine.
7 Jan 2009, 21:57 pm
#273 carol: Im here
7 Jan 2009, 21:57 pm
#291 Luke is king: I know… 1st thing I’d change if elected president
7 Jan 2009, 21:57 pm
#290 K9_BaasPatrolliehond: My Afrikaans is so bad
7 Jan 2009, 21:58 pm
#296 K9_BaasPatrolliehond: I can get you 10 top players and new coach…..Give you a real chance of winning the s14
7 Jan 2009, 21:58 pm
#296 K9_BaasPatrolliehond: maybe they gonna wake up, win matches and make it into the top half…
7 Jan 2009, 21:59 pm
#295 Cheetahj: So no one can force Sarah to live in the sandy country or the muddy country once she is 18!!
Good news Sarah!
7 Jan 2009, 21:59 pm
# Luke is king: From where?
7 Jan 2009, 21:59 pm
#286 carol: Vrystaat( Free State): The place at which everything happens last. When the world ends, we will still live for another 3 years.
7 Jan 2009, 22:00 pm
#303 carol: I told my parents that… if we move the day I turn 18 is the day I go home
7 Jan 2009, 22:00 pm
#298 K9_BaasPatrolliehond: Don’t go off Facebooking again!! Lots of women contact you don’t they, you are in demand!!
7 Jan 2009, 22:01 pm
#262 wooden spoon</Interesting article on Pietersen.
London – Kevin Pietersen’s extraordinary switch-hit sixes sum up a player who has polarised cricketing opinion since his arrival in England eight years ago.
Pietersen’s ability to switch his stance to thump international bowlers out of the ground left-handed has been hailed as a feat of batting brilliance and innovation that only a special few could even contemplate, let alone pull off.
Others have condemned the shot as cavalier, selfish and against the spirit, if not the rules, of cricket and something which sums up the South Africa-born all-rounder’s approach to the game.
Is he one of the most aggressive and crowd-pleasing batsmen ever to grace the game: hugely talented, justifiably confident and fully entitled to represent the country of his mother?
Or is he a cocky opportunist whose ego too often lets down his team mates? A man whose tattoo of England’s three Lions might be replaced by one of his own image and whose brief reign as captain ended because coach Peter Moores dared stand up to him?
One thing there is no argument about is the numbers.
Batting usually at number five, Pietersen boasts a Test average of 50.48 from 83 innings, the eighth-best average for an Englishman and far superior to any of his current team mates. He has 15 centuries, 11 half-centuries and an impressive 45 sixes.
In one-day internationals he was the fastest man to reach 1 000 and 2 000 runs and in his 87 matches, playing in a generally under-performing England team, he averages 48.36, his country’s best and third in the world all-time list.
His claim to be an all-rounder has diminished with time as his tame off-spin has been rarely used in Tests. He has taken only four wickets in his 101 overs but given the chance, you get the feeling he would probably take the new ball.
Born in Natal in 1980, Pietersen has displayed a single-minded self-confidence since making his first-class debut at the age of 17.
Four years later he averaged almost 60 in his first season for Nottinghamshire.
Having served his four-year residency he made his England debut in a one-day game in Zimbabwe in 2004 and then showed dignity and concentration in the face of merciless barracking to crack three centuries in a one-day series in South Africa.
His Test debut came in the opener of the memorable 2005 Ashes and he went on to play a vital role in England’s success, particularly with a maiden test century that helped the hosts save the fifth test at The Oval.
The runs flowed in subsequent years but Pietersen’s apparent refusal to change his all-or-nothing approach also drew criticism.
“The way I play is instinct-oriented,” he said recently. “I like to do things spontaneously.”
A fair amount of pre-planning must have gone into his decision to introduce the “switch-hit”, however. In 2008 he twice thumped New Zealand’s Scott Styris over the ropes after changing to a left-hander’s stance as the bowler approached.
Cries of “not cricket” abounded, but Pietersen, who won backing from the MCC and who had previously reverse-swept Muttiah Muralitharan for six, claimed it was all part of the development of the game.
There were no complaints from Styris, either. “Sometimes you just have to take your hat off and say ‘well played’,” he said.
Pietersen took over the captaincy of test and one-day sides when Michael Vaughan resigned after South Africa secured a series win in England last year.
Unsurprisingly, his six-month reign has been a busy and controversial one.
Initially he stopped the rot with a consolation win in the final Test against South Africa then lifted spirits by leading England to a 4-0 one-day series success against them.
He then took his team to the $20 million Stanford Twenty/20 match, where, under-prepared and seemingly unsure about whether they should even be taking part, England were humiliated by a West Indies select team.
A 5-0 one-day series thrashing by India was ended prematurely by the attacks in Mumbai and Pietersen won admirers for his dignity during the fallout, as England initially went home then returned to play their two-test series.
From a strong position they lost the first test, amid criticism of his captaincy, and drew the second, giving him a career return of one win, one draw and one defeat.
England, it seems, can live without Pietersen the captain but the return of Pietersen the batsman is absolutely essential to their cause.
7 Jan 2009, 22:01 pm
Wow, that’s cool…
7 Jan 2009, 22:01 pm
#305 Cheetahj: I love the fact that parts of S.A are so old fashioned and quite traditional…..you can tell by some of the bloggers on here. Rather honourable people..
7 Jan 2009, 22:01 pm
#304 SpringbokSarah: From SA….but they won’t be sons of ex broederbonders…So the lions will probably turn doen the offer
7 Jan 2009, 22:02 pm
#305 Cheetahj: yup… cos you are that delayed
7 Jan 2009, 22:02 pm
#308 wooden spoon: Blimey, you’ve been Tangoed…
7 Jan 2009, 22:02 pm
#311 Luke is king: that is ” Turn Down the offer”
7 Jan 2009, 22:02 pm
And Keo thinks he’s fancy pants with a yellow border around his posts, like some sort of halo…
7 Jan 2009, 22:02 pm
#300 carol: Shame on u
We’ll teach u once ur here in SA.
7 Jan 2009, 22:03 pm
#309 wooden spoon: That will really hurt K9′s eyes!
7 Jan 2009, 22:03 pm
#308 wooden spoon: now why do you lot keep doing away with you “a>”
#311 Luke is king: Maybe they won’t… maybe they wanna win… just don’t take any of the Stormers… except Lobberts and Venter… they can have them at half price
7 Jan 2009, 22:04 pm
#315 wooden spoon: roflmao
7 Jan 2009, 22:06 pm
Grant, where are you?
Don’t you need us now you are all grown up and 46?
7 Jan 2009, 22:07 pm
#309 wooden spoon: Eish…where is my glasses? hehehe
7 Jan 2009, 22:07 pm
What humours me a great deal is that 50 people think that the Cheetahs and Lions combined are SA’s best bet in the S14.
You’ve got to love the staunch provincialism in SA…
7 Jan 2009, 22:07 pm
#310 carol: We are also the worst in english, so you have to excuse the spelling mistakes when the crept in, and dont listen to us when we speak in english, we sound retarded.
7 Jan 2009, 22:07 pm
It’s amazing how put off I am when guys tell me they’re All Black supporters….
7 Jan 2009, 22:08 pm
#321 K9_BaasPatrolliehond: 50c to anyone who can read the entire article without squinting.
7 Jan 2009, 22:08 pm
#315 wooden spoon: I noticed that but decide not to comment.
Notice how he did not respond to me again!!
7 Jan 2009, 22:09 pm
#322 wooden spoon: lol
#323 Cheetahj: Yup
7 Jan 2009, 22:09 pm
#324 SpringbokSarah: Where’s the kiwibird hiding?
7 Jan 2009, 22:09 pm
#316 K9_BaasPatrolliehond: I will never understand the accent……..Please excuse me if I look blank and uncomprehanding!!
7 Jan 2009, 22:10 pm
#322 wooden spoon: I dont think we have a chance really, but I have to believe in my team and the victory is so much sweeter when no-one believe you can do it.
7 Jan 2009, 22:11 pm
#328 wooden spoon: who’s that?
#329 carol: lol… shame
7 Jan 2009, 22:11 pm
#326 carol: Yeah but he doesn’t have yellow writing *raising my right hand to my face level, moving my head and hand in several opposite horizontal motions*
7 Jan 2009, 22:11 pm
#307 carol: Im here Carol. Trying to read the Orange stuff hehehe
7 Jan 2009, 22:11 pm
#323 Cheetahj: Whhhaaatttt, I am English, have you seen my spelling? Shheeeshhh.
I think the Saffa accent is so cute…..I have grant10 on my voicemail messages excellent accent, I love it….
7 Jan 2009, 22:12 pm
#323 Cheetahj: Hey you are bi lingual as well. Extra points….
7 Jan 2009, 22:12 pm
#332 wooden spoon: who are you? John Cena?
7 Jan 2009, 22:12 pm
#328 wooden spoon: The all black supporter you were talking about. Kiwis don’t sound so tough when you think of them as itty bitty little flightless birdies.
7 Jan 2009, 22:13 pm
#332 wooden spoon: I thought I needed glasses!!
7 Jan 2009, 22:13 pm
#325 wooden spoon: Hehe….only 50c????
7 Jan 2009, 22:13 pm
#334 carol: roflmao…
7 Jan 2009, 22:13 pm
#333 K9_BaasPatrolliehond: You done yet?
So can you come over to play for us, we are desperate!!!!
7 Jan 2009, 22:14 pm
#339 K9_BaasPatrolliehond: It’s hard times, K9…
7 Jan 2009, 22:14 pm
#336 SpringbokSarah: Who he?
7 Jan 2009, 22:15 pm
#334 carol: Grant10 is not afrikaans. the south african accent can be cute to women, but the afrikaans people( specially the ones inland) accent when they speak english are horrible.
7 Jan 2009, 22:15 pm
Hellooooooooooooooooo !!
7 Jan 2009, 22:15 pm
#341 carol: Will u line my palm with silver?
7 Jan 2009, 22:15 pm
#336 SpringbokSarah: Lol, John Cena used to be my favourite wrestler until I realised it was all fake! I was a believer and then had my dreams crushed by WWE…
I was trying to do that thang some women do with their head and hand, usually when they say “uh uh you won’t play me for a fooool”.
7 Jan 2009, 22:16 pm
GBS – Oi, waarnatoe hardloop jy now? My Afrikaanse broer? Karlien here..
7 Jan 2009, 22:16 pm
#343 carol: omg… he’s a wrestler
7 Jan 2009, 22:16 pm
#345 grootblousmile: Ahh Haa Muppett…
7 Jan 2009, 22:17 pm
#346 K9_BaasPatrolliehond: If that is your perferred currency…..silver has gone up recently, a wise investment!
7 Jan 2009, 22:17 pm
#345 grootblousmile: helloooooooooooooo to you too!
#347 wooden spoon: roflmao
7 Jan 2009, 22:18 pm
#351 carol: What about platinum – I thought that was the fo’shizel these days?
7 Jan 2009, 22:18 pm
#345 grootblousmile: Haaaaaallo
7 Jan 2009, 22:18 pm
#348 carol: Hehehe…
Running nowhere fast !!
BonzaiGBS and me only got home from Pretoria about half an hour ago !
7 Jan 2009, 22:19 pm
#349 SpringbokSarah: Forgive my ignorance and naivety….but are you really a teenager..Got a good joke
7 Jan 2009, 22:19 pm
Wrestlers, I don’t get that…….Is it the funny shorts?
7 Jan 2009, 22:20 pm
#355 grootblousmile: You still got little Bonsai with you, say Hi from the English Auntie!! Have you had fun today?
7 Jan 2009, 22:21 pm
#356 Luke is king: YES!
#357 carol: I have no cousins my age… I grew up playing rugby and soccer in the street and watching wrestling
7 Jan 2009, 22:21 pm
#359 SpringbokSarah: typo… I have no MALE cousins my age
7 Jan 2009, 22:23 pm
gg when did it get so late?… last time I checked it was 17:30
7 Jan 2009, 22:23 pm
#350 carol: Hey…. the term Muppit is reserved for the freeble bloggers who cannot deviate from a political agenda here… the ones stuck in the past… the ones of lesser calibre………. like Luke is King and his buddies & cohorts !
7 Jan 2009, 22:25 pm
#362 grootblousmile: what about Sarah? where does Sarah fit?
7 Jan 2009, 22:25 pm
#359 SpringbokSarah: Good head on you then….BTW the joke: ” I was chatting up this 13yo girl on the internet. She now tells me that she is an undercover cop.How cool is that. Never met a 13yo undercover cop before”
7 Jan 2009, 22:27 pm
#344 Cheetahj: I will look forward to hearing that then!!
7 Jan 2009, 22:27 pm
hi guys, hows the skin hanging?
7 Jan 2009, 22:27 pm
#363 SpringbokSarah: I really got to stop referring to myself in the 3rd person….
beginning to sound like the Arabs… If I say today morning and yesterday night, somebody shoot me
7 Jan 2009, 22:28 pm
#364 Luke is king: roflmao
#366 BonzaiGBS: hello!
7 Jan 2009, 22:28 pm
#359 SpringbokSarah: Deprived childhood! I think my Dad wanted me to be a boy too, hence my racing car driving and hill walking with him!!
7 Jan 2009, 22:28 pm
#363 SpringbokSarah: You’re not a muppit… too much of an independent thinker…….. an admirable trait…
Your our little friend !!
7 Jan 2009, 22:29 pm
#367 SpringbokSarah: so why does sarah referr to her self as a 3rd person
7 Jan 2009, 22:29 pm
#362 grootblousmile: Oh my goodness, I insulted you….really, really sorry, the cultural divide thingie!! Am I forgiven my broer?
7 Jan 2009, 22:29 pm
#369 carol: lol, not my fault… he gets mad when he sees the make up and hand bags… and boys… shame.. poor him
7 Jan 2009, 22:30 pm
#366 BonzaiGBS: I thought it looked ok but from that angle…….oooohhhh
7 Jan 2009, 22:30 pm
#373 SpringbokSarah: and wedges hehehe
7 Jan 2009, 22:31 pm
#370 grootblousmile: lol thanks
#371 BonzaiGBS: because like Sarah’s friend says “I know I’m a nut but you… you’re a whole packet of nuts”
now Sarah must go… bye bye guys… and carol
7 Jan 2009, 22:31 pm
#372 carol: Ja…. jy’s vergewe !!
(Yeah…. you’re forgiven !)
7 Jan 2009, 22:31 pm
#373 SpringbokSarah: Dads are great, enjoy yours…..and you Bonsai!!
7 Jan 2009, 22:31 pm
#363 SpringbokSarah: Ur a Stormer. Different specie….
7 Jan 2009, 22:31 pm
#374 carol: too much info
7 Jan 2009, 22:31 pm
#375 K9_BaasPatrolliehond: almost left those in Dubai!
7 Jan 2009, 22:32 pm
#376 SpringbokSarah: gnyt sleep well
7 Jan 2009, 22:32 pm
Got to go…NO rugby chat..I see that they tried to assassinate the king..Motor car accident….??? It was a failed hit I say….
7 Jan 2009, 22:32 pm
#376 SpringbokSarah: Whisky and honey before bed for a cold……..Aghhh, no you are only 15. Stop the honey LOL
7 Jan 2009, 22:32 pm
#366 BonzaiGBS: Hello Bonzai. Remember not to bend ur dads zimmerframe hey?
7 Jan 2009, 22:32 pm
#378 carol: love my dad
#379 K9_BaasPatrolliehond: hey!
7 Jan 2009, 22:33 pm
#384 carol:
7 Jan 2009, 22:33 pm
Doing supper, back in 10…..
7 Jan 2009, 22:33 pm
#242 carol: Hi Carol, whatsup? Went for a walkabout there for a while, house lost power, must be that blaggard Putin’s fault
7 Jan 2009, 22:34 pm
#383 Luke is king: I was thinking the same thing
#384 carol: lol, night…
*this is Sarah leaving*
7 Jan 2009, 22:34 pm
#376 SpringbokSarah: Tatta !
7 Jan 2009, 22:34 pm
#248 carol: Where’s my wine?
7 Jan 2009, 22:34 pm
#376 SpringbokSarah: Nite.
7 Jan 2009, 22:34 pm
#385 K9_BaasPatrolliehond: i should put some wheels on maybe he will go faster
7 Jan 2009, 22:35 pm
#394 BonzaiGBS: Hehe…..will hit a speed wobble.
7 Jan 2009, 22:36 pm
#385 K9_BaasPatrolliehond:
#394 BonzaiGBS:
Hey !!
Flokkkkkkkk julle !
7 Jan 2009, 22:36 pm
#388 carol: My timing was off, oh well
7 Jan 2009, 22:37 pm
#395 K9_BaasPatrolliehond: maybe if he hits a speed wobble, he’ll hit sraight(golf)
7 Jan 2009, 22:40 pm
#395 K9_BaasPatrolliehond: Jinne, dit was vandag weer moerrrrrrrrrrrrrrr warm………. was weer oral heen…… ook daar naby jou in die Woes-Rand………
7 Jan 2009, 22:40 pm
Wow. Full house.
7 Jan 2009, 22:40 pm
#396 grootblousmile: hey its not my fault you are yourself
7 Jan 2009, 22:42 pm
# BonzaiGBS: Aggggggggg maar jy’s sooooo lief vir jou goeie ou Pa !!
7 Jan 2009, 22:43 pm
#402 grootblousmile: JAAAAAAAAAAAA JYS REG
7 Jan 2009, 22:44 pm
#399 grootblousmile: Ons gaan bietjie warm kry Vrydag.
7 Jan 2009, 22:45 pm
#400 SodaJoe: Hello SodaPop !
7 Jan 2009, 22:45 pm
howzit folks
stormers thread or in fact a rugby thread sure does break up the cricket on here.
a few points on stormers for 09. thank goodness rassie has learnt at least one lesson we know of from last year. this year stormers are having preseason games. last year it took all of 6 games for the stormers to finally have some sort of match fitness along with combinations starting to click. compared to all the other teams who only took 2 to 3 games to click.
am looking fwd to any new innovations rassie and other coaches bring in this season to try and work the ELVs harder.
about mujati. and ive said this before. when he played up north he was raved about as the next big thing, a propping monster and really good contributer around the pitch. now that he plays south, te same bunch label him as a mud player and over rated. take your bias someplace else. the guy is a very young prop and will in a season or 2 come into his own. add in the experience he has now at the highest level and he could be a world reknowned force at 3 for the boks. have saffas somehow adopted the kiwi tall poppy syndrome?
reminder that in the stormers lack of depth issues last year mujati played 1 to try and help the team out. clearly not his position but he did admirably considering brok was at 3.
all im saying is it looks like this player is getting unfair comments regarding his ability and he isnt doing stupid **** like watson is.
7 Jan 2009, 22:46 pm
Got to go to rugby practice now. See y’all later.
7 Jan 2009, 22:46 pm
#404 K9_BaasPatrolliehond: Het oom ons vis vang foto’s gesien?
7 Jan 2009, 22:47 pm
#404 K9_BaasPatrolliehond: Ek dink ons moet ‘n Coolbox pak, vol versnapperinge vir Vrydag !
7 Jan 2009, 22:50 pm
#409 grootblousmile: Ja def. Ek het mos nou ‘n drywer vir die pad huis toe hehehehe#408 BonzaiGBS: Ja ekt gesien. Mens koop die karp daar langs die pad dan pose mens met dit vir fotos. Dis wat jou pa ges? het.
7 Jan 2009, 22:51 pm
#389 JimT: Ahh Haa she’s back!!#397 JimT: Anyway, thought we were not entertaining enough for you!!
7 Jan 2009, 22:52 pm
#407 JimT: What it’s 10.46 !!! OK what is it in Atlanta?
7 Jan 2009, 22:53 pm
#410 K9_BaasPatrolliehond: ag shove a carp in it
7 Jan 2009, 22:53 pm
#392 JimT: Wine before training, bad idea!! Didn’t you know that!
7 Jan 2009, 22:54 pm
#410 K9_BaasPatrolliehond: Ek dink nie ek kan Bonsie laat huistoe bestuur nie……. flok !
#411 carol: That was a quick dinner….
7 Jan 2009, 22:54 pm
#400 SodaJoe: Soda, come back they are going all Afrikaans on me……………….
7 Jan 2009, 22:55 pm
#415 grootblousmile: Yip, with my cooking you don’t hang about!!!
7 Jan 2009, 22:56 pm
#413 BonzaiGBS: Show some respect…….do you know how old he is? Actually how old is K9?
7 Jan 2009, 22:57 pm
#418 carol: K9′s got one foot in the grave already……. he is ancienttttttttt !!
7 Jan 2009, 22:58 pm
#417 carol: Heeehehehehehe ur on a roll tonight Karlien.
7 Jan 2009, 22:58 pm
#418 carol: yea, ive played golf with him………i can swear he needs a wheel chair
7 Jan 2009, 22:59 pm
I thought nice evening in front of the TV and fire, but have you seen whats on? Nothing, shocking, can’t believe we pay a licence fee to watch such rubbish!
Find myself back here…..
7 Jan 2009, 23:00 pm
#418 carol: every time he swings a golf club, dust comes shooting out of his arm pits
7 Jan 2009, 23:00 pm
#420 K9_BaasPatrolliehond: Now a roll would probably be a far better idea. Ham and tomato perhaps? I can’t burn that!
7 Jan 2009, 23:01 pm
#419 grootblousmile: Is he older than you?
7 Jan 2009, 23:01 pm
#421 BonzaiGBS: Hey “Mobile”… don’t you think we should be thinking about hitting the sack early tonight ??
7 Jan 2009, 23:01 pm
#421 BonzaiGBS: I thought golf buggies were wheelchairs!!
7 Jan 2009, 23:01 pm
#423 BonzaiGBS: Does he have woodworm too?
7 Jan 2009, 23:02 pm
#426 grootblousmile: it sounds great……..im beat
7 Jan 2009, 23:02 pm
#426 grootblousmile: Have you finnished fiddling with your Nero thingummie bobble?
7 Jan 2009, 23:02 pm
#425 carol: Wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy older than me……….. wayyyyyyyyyy older…….. it’s plain to see….. he’s got a lotttttttt of miles on the clock !
7 Jan 2009, 23:03 pm
naaaa, he’s got old age sindrome
7 Jan 2009, 23:04 pm
#429 BonzaiGBS: Night Jim Bob, Night Mary Ellen, Night Grand Pa, Night Jason – did you ever watch “The Waltons”?
You sound a bit like that!
7 Jan 2009, 23:04 pm
#424 carol: Aaaah….I was thinking about a roll of a different kind
7 Jan 2009, 23:04 pm
#430 carol: No, will fiddle with it tomorrow night again……… no energy to think hard tonight !
7 Jan 2009, 23:04 pm
#425 carol: Hey. Im here!!!!
7 Jan 2009, 23:05 pm
#431 grootblousmile: It has to be said Irish Devil has no idea just how handsome some of you guys are, and wearing so well too
He thinks he is the only cute one !!
7 Jan 2009, 23:06 pm
#434 K9_BaasPatrolliehond: Enlighten me
7 Jan 2009, 23:06 pm
#433 carol:
7 Jan 2009, 23:06 pm
Oh no, GBS will say “do I have to paint you a picture Karlien” ?
7 Jan 2009, 23:06 pm
#437 carol: Only some of us……
7 Jan 2009, 23:07 pm
#439 BonzaiGBS: OK a bit before your time. On Sky Gold probably !
7 Jan 2009, 23:07 pm
7 Jan 2009, 23:07 pm
#441 K9_BaasPatrolliehond: Who isn’t?
7 Jan 2009, 23:07 pm
#437 carol: Hey, old Grant10 replied on my mail I sent last night……… he was very pleasantly surprised to get my mail !
7 Jan 2009, 23:07 pm
#438 carol: Hay comes to mind
7 Jan 2009, 23:08 pm
How you have felt, O men of Athens, at hearing the speeches of my accusers, I cannot tell; but I know that their persuasive words almost made me forget who I was – such was the effect of them; and yet they have hardly spoken a word of truth. But many as their falsehoods were, there was one of them which quite amazed me; – I mean when they told you to be upon your guard, and not to let yourselves be deceived by the force of my eloquence. They ought to have been ashamed of saying this, because they were sure to be detected as soon as I opened my lips and displayed my deficiency; they certainly did appear to be most shameless in saying this, unless by the force of eloquence they mean the force of truth; for then I do indeed admit that I am eloquent.
7 Jan 2009, 23:09 pm
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD night all, sleep well
7 Jan 2009, 23:09 pm
lets see how many flick flacks we get out of that
7 Jan 2009, 23:09 pm
#444 carol: I wont mention names. But old, support the bulls, enjoys looking for his golf balls in the rough. Follow my eyes
7 Jan 2009, 23:09 pm
#435 grootblousmile: Go and get your head down then……Don’t let us sidetrack you..
7 Jan 2009, 23:09 pm
if any
7 Jan 2009, 23:10 pm
#444 carol: All K9′s photo’s were taken befor colour photography……… all cepia photies……
7 Jan 2009, 23:10 pm
#445 grootblousmile: He said it was a nice surprise to get a mail from you and Robzim!! I think he had a VERY late night!!
7 Jan 2009, 23:11 pm
#448 BonzaiGBS: Nite. Be nice to ur old man.
7 Jan 2009, 23:11 pm
#446 K9_BaasPatrolliehond: Bit scratchy and sneezy, we have got a stack here, I wouldn’t recommend it……mice too!
7 Jan 2009, 23:12 pm
#455 K9_BaasPatrolliehond: I’ll be shure to adjust his meds, good night
7 Jan 2009, 23:12 pm
#450 K9_BaasPatrolliehond: I thought GBS was quite fit!!
7 Jan 2009, 23:12 pm
#453 grootblousmile: You seen the DJ photo? Very smart! No sepia there..
7 Jan 2009, 23:13 pm
#458 carol: He’s telling you lies, nyt
7 Jan 2009, 23:14 pm
#447 yliad: Friends, Romans and countrymen…….Skop, my brain is also too tired for coherent thought! what does it mean?
7 Jan 2009, 23:14 pm
#459 carol: That’s his son !!
Hahahaha
7 Jan 2009, 23:14 pm
#460 BonzaiGBS: I seed with me eyes!! You are too young to understand anyway!
7 Jan 2009, 23:15 pm
#462 grootblousmile: Fooled again!
7 Jan 2009, 23:15 pm
#463 carol: Old people…….figures
7 Jan 2009, 23:16 pm
#465 BonzaiGBS: Arghhh, how old do you think I am?
7 Jan 2009, 23:17 pm
#456 carol: But it always look so cool in the movies. Now Im disappointed…..very!!!!
7 Jan 2009, 23:17 pm
#464 carol: OK Totsiens……
Goeie nag, slaap sag……..
Kom Bonsie, kom ons gaan doedoe…….. die mense wil huistoe gaan !
7 Jan 2009, 23:17 pm
#459 carol: DJ photo?
7 Jan 2009, 23:18 pm
#466 carol: i think your 80 in the shade
7 Jan 2009, 23:19 pm
#467 K9_BaasPatrolliehond: Don’t try it looks better than it feels trust me…..!! Now long grass much better!!
7 Jan 2009, 23:20 pm
#468 grootblousmile: Night lovely, see you soon XX
7 Jan 2009, 23:20 pm
#468 grootblousmile: Nag.
7 Jan 2009, 23:20 pm
#470 BonzaiGBS: Come Bonsie…. before Auntie Karlien bliksems you soooooooo hard, you’ll wonder what year it is !
7 Jan 2009, 23:21 pm
#469 K9_BaasPatrolliehond: Dinner Jacket! Your profile picture!
7 Jan 2009, 23:21 pm
#470 BonzaiGBS: Cheers, that has just made my night (Not)!!
7 Jan 2009, 23:22 pm
Cheeerssssssssss I’m outa here………
Lekker doedoe !
7 Jan 2009, 23:23 pm
Ek is nou moreg, ek gaan nou inkruip………
Night All, I am off too. GBS, K9, Bonsai and who ever else is looking in, sleep well ***
7 Jan 2009, 23:25 pm
#478 carol: Nite…….have good one.#475 carol: Oooh….thought my disc jockey pic hehehehe
7 Jan 2009, 23:26 pm
Is everybody gone? Am I gonna have to talk to myslelf?
7 Jan 2009, 23:29 pm
#480 SpringbokSarah: Not worth it… I don’t even have anything to say to me…
good night guests… hope you log on…
7 Jan 2009, 23:29 pm
#480 SpringbokSarah: Poke!!
7 Jan 2009, 23:34 pm
Okay then Nite everybody and guests.
8 Jan 2009, 00:31 am
Is there anybody there?
Grant, where are you? I will wait 5 mins!!
8 Jan 2009, 00:33 am
Time is up………
8 Jan 2009, 00:34 am
OK I waited 2 minutes…..!!
8 Jan 2009, 07:42 am
I find the amount people who have started talking to themselves sad…
#482 K9_BaasPatrolliehond: You should have poked quicker! I ended up watching Scooby Doo!
8 Jan 2009, 08:11 am
#163 JC:
I have no problem with you making deductions based on what you saw (you were there not so) because you probably had the better view from all of us.
The problem I have in a sense is that the deductions were based on opinion passed as fact in this instance.
The tone of what was written in the magazine in the article was to the effect of the injury was manufactured by the management because of ‘their lack of faith in Mujati’s abilities’ (were the words you used in the article I believe).
Only now, do we (including you) find out the injury was in fact more serious than first thought.
If the management could be accused of anything it was that they did not properly assess the injury after the Scotland match and therefore had to make a decision on the Sunday to bring CJ in already and not give Mujati till the last minute.
The main thing here is your deduction in the article in the magazine took a clear swipe at the Bok coaching and management team (as the media has done throughout 2008) questioning their acumen or ability. You got it wrong.
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