Call on Schalk delayed
22 Jun 2009
The Springbok management are still reluctant to confirm Schalk Burger’s availability for the second Test.
Burger missed the first match against the British & Irish Lions due to a calf injury that has sidelined him since the back end of the Super 14. The Bok management delivered mixed messages last week in the build-up to the series opener, and team doctor Craig Roberts said they were still reluctant to give the media a final answer.
‘Schalk has done really well in the past week and has rejoined the team for training,’ he told keo.co.za. ‘We are still monitoring him at the moment, so I don’t want to say he will definitely play.’
Roberts said every member of the 29-man squad trained on Monday morning including injury concerns Fourie du Preez and Deon Carstens. Both players ended Saturday’s win over the Lions with shoulder injuries, but Roberts is confident they will be available for selection.
‘Fourie’s injury wasn’t as bad as we initially thought and he has been responding to treatment. The knock hasn’t stopped him from training.
‘Deon Carstens is also responding to treatment for a stinger to his shoulder. He has had the problem before, so we took him off the field on Saturday as we didn’t want to take any chances.’
Carstens went off during a period where the Boks were falling apart, and his exit saw captain John Smit returning to the field. Roberts said Carstens was a genuine injury concern and the fact that Smit’s return would boost the Bok leadership never influenced the substitution.
‘I can confirm there was no other reason to take Deon off. There are protocols you need to follow. The match doctor assessed him and agreed that he needed to come off,’ Roberts said.
The Boks will name their match 22 for the second Test at Loftus Versfeld on Tuesday.
By Jon Cardinelli, in Johannesburg
125 Comments
22 Jun 2009, 13:09 pm
Mossie shoulder???
Ooops
22 Jun 2009, 13:19 pm
#1 PissAnt: You meant Dragons Shoulder?
22 Jun 2009, 13:20 pm
Sh#t. So we have two 13s with bad shoulders
22 Jun 2009, 13:20 pm
Luke should have played – dragons…..
22 Jun 2009, 13:25 pm
#4 Puke Wasptongue:
why?
22 Jun 2009, 13:25 pm
#3 rich1: We still got Olivier…
22 Jun 2009, 13:26 pm
#4 Puke Wasptongue: Instead of Brussow? no way
22 Jun 2009, 13:31 pm
our problem isn’t at loose forward, we can win even if Schalk stays injured.
3 problems:
– defence in centers
– if du Preez gets injured Boks have to carry on with Januarie at 9
– coach who sabotages his team’s good work because he’s bored/arrogant/retarded
22 Jun 2009, 13:34 pm
#8 rich1: that last sentence reminds me of Strauli…
22 Jun 2009, 13:42 pm
You notice the real value of Brussow when he is out of the field…….then the other team start playing well.
For god sake….save Burger to the last game and the tri nation. Brussow is a diamond for the next years…
22 Jun 2009, 13:43 pm
if schalk comes back into the match day 22, they gotta drop bekker – save him for the trinations, he’ll make a bigger impact there.
22 Jun 2009, 13:43 pm
#8 rich1: defense in ONE of the centres I would say
I would say that the lack of Schalk’s prescence does create gaps for the Lions (dont get me wrong, I love having Brussow there and us competing more effectively on the ground) but their #6 was in the game, and their #12 had more space. If Schalk was defending around the ruck and in the 1st channel, Roberts would’ve ended up crying.
22 Jun 2009, 13:44 pm
Team for Saturday should be unchanged, except for:
1. Schalk Burger to start on the bench and come in later. The reason is that Brussouw was phenomenol and Schalk is on his way back from injury. It is a long season and as such no need to rush him. If Schalk is not ready, bring in another fetcher, either Stegmann or Potgieter. Andries Bekker to drop off bench as he does not bring anything extra to the team with Matfield playing.
2. Danie Roussouw to cover lock and the other loose forwards.
Ricky January to be replaced by Rory Cockett or Jano Vermaak. Even Heini Adams at this point is a better choice.
3. Jaque Fourie to swap with Adi Jacobs.
Lets hope PDV and co learnt the lessons…
22 Jun 2009, 13:46 pm
great to see the saffa swing to the true opensider fetcher….
22 Jun 2009, 13:51 pm
#14 grant10: true that, now we just gotta see our backline do something with the turnover ball
22 Jun 2009, 13:53 pm
#15 superbowljoel: yes….we will give it more air at loftus….boks can improve by 30% ….not so sure lions can
22 Jun 2009, 13:54 pm
brussow,steggmann to dominate the opensider jersey for next few years…dewalt potgieter to inherit the 7 soon….
22 Jun 2009, 13:56 pm
#12 bokfan1:
Fair enough. Spies didn’t add a lot of value, maybe they should rethink the option of Burgr at 8 to accomodate Brussow. Danie and Spies on bench covers lock and all looseforward positions
22 Jun 2009, 13:57 pm
#16 grant10: can’t wait for that…everyone’s got a game under their belt and the cobwebs are gone…i thought we would’ve opened up in the last 20min, but we lost all our momentum (for reasons that have been discussed at length since 5pm saturday afternoon).
22 Jun 2009, 13:57 pm
spies a must for loftus
22 Jun 2009, 13:58 pm
#19 superbowljoel: exaxtly….rust gone….wont make silly mistakes again…Lions had to win that 1 st test…
22 Jun 2009, 14:02 pm
For Loftus better make the Bulls all Boks for a day ( i support Sharks by the way), give PDV the day off. I’ll bet my life savings they’ll destroy the Lions.
22 Jun 2009, 14:04 pm
#21 grant10: I am watching the Bokke game again… we did everything right until the first Bokke sub…. except for Adi who was abysmal of course !
22 Jun 2009, 14:06 pm
Brussouw is such a terrier… with bigggggggg heart !
22 Jun 2009, 14:06 pm
Bottom line with Broussow you have more ball on the ground and you slow the opposition ball down but you loose the impact runner and hard line defense of Burger.
With Burger you may not have the ability to compete as effectively at the breakdown but will have a stringer defensive line and will probably open up more gaps in the centre flyhalf cahnnel with the direct running.
Jake addressed this by making it JvD and Fouries job to turnover ball in the midfield and to compete to slow it down…
The choice is yours but until we get a richie McCaw we need to decide.
22 Jun 2009, 14:07 pm
#23 grootblousmile:
Surprise – it starts going tits up when our genius coach makes his first move of the day
22 Jun 2009, 14:09 pm
#23 grootblousmile: Read that J F also has a shoulder issue…perhaps time for WO to start at 12 with JDV at 13…boks must get the midfield defence right and stick with brussow…
Quite a few boks can improve by 30%…and at altitude and with Loftus pumping we must be in with a decent shout…
Bloody weather terrible here…and more bad weather expected for tomorrow…pity…would have loved to see the E boks give the lions a full go!
22 Jun 2009, 14:12 pm
#25 bok1906: schalk has and never will be a true openside ….he must compete for 7 with Juan,deysel….and Dewalt Potgieter…
22 Jun 2009, 14:12 pm
First Bokke sub, came on at 51 minutes 44 seconds… Danie on for Brussouw
Hell, that was just wrong !
22 Jun 2009, 14:14 pm
Spies made some very valuable tackles…
22 Jun 2009, 14:17 pm
#27 grant10: the midfield really is the biggest area of concern…roberts and o’driscoll look like the real deal, especially roberts; i was really impressed by him – he’s big and has a quick turn of pace, he’ll be terrorizing defenses for years to come.
22 Jun 2009, 14:18 pm
#30 grootblousmile: Spies will rock this weekend ….he did the hard yards sat….it was never gonna be a loose approach…he may be put in a bit more space this weekend though….lions only flying up Friday morning….altitude gonna catch them
22 Jun 2009, 14:19 pm
At 57 minutes Langbek comes on and Mossie comes on, score still 26 / 7
22 Jun 2009, 14:19 pm
#31 superbowljoel: yeah….our defence will be a major area of attention this week….will be intersting to see the selection as well….
22 Jun 2009, 14:20 pm
#33 grootblousmile: mossie missed some tackles…watch!!
22 Jun 2009, 14:22 pm
#32 grant10: The only change I would make is in midfield… Mossie on at 13… and personally I would opt for Meisiekind at 12.
2 Better defenders all round.
22 Jun 2009, 14:28 pm
#36 grootblousmile: May be the way to go…certainly will improve the defensive capabilities of the team…F Steyn….JPP also need to up there games….and i believe they will…
No need to panic i reckon…we got the win…and the Loftus factor….
And hopefully management that wont repeat the stupidity of last sat!
22 Jun 2009, 14:28 pm
At 64 min 50 our 2 star props are replaced AND Ruan goes off for blood…. 3 bloody simultaneous subs… WTF ???
Score still 26 / 7
22 Jun 2009, 14:29 pm
#38 grootblousmile: some really silly calls made.
22 Jun 2009, 14:31 pm
South Africa is lucky to have so many good loosies – Schalk, Juan, Spies, Kankowski, Deysel, Deon Stegman, Potgieter, Baywatch, even Puke. The first name that I would put down however is Brussow and then pick the rest (granted Stegmann is in Brussow’s league). Brussow just provides another dimension and balance to the loosies – 3 kind of similar hard running/hard tackling loosies in Schalk, Juan and Spies/Kankowski (and subbing them with Pakslae) is just too one-dimensional. Brussow was the first replacement in the first test and right there the cookie started to crumble.
And many a beautiful try has been scored over the years, but few give me more pleasure to watch than the one Brussow scored last Saturday where we started mauling from our own 10 yard line – what a performance by the forwards!
22 Jun 2009, 14:32 pm
Carstens is not injured. he had to come of the field to get john Smit back on the field.
22 Jun 2009, 14:33 pm
#35 grant10: Yip, Mossie misses a couple of tackles, you are dead right…
Croft scores at 68 min 10 secs… after presure upon pressure
Januarie comes on for Du preez at 69 min.
22 Jun 2009, 14:34 pm
#14 grant10: it’s all because of jake white’s stubborn ways, that we didn’t move with the rest of the world, well at least our peers, he didn’t hav the know-how to coach the fetcher position & the dynamics around it, so he decided to deride the whole notion of a fetcher! Yet at the same time other aus & nz were priming richie & george smith to be the ultimate scavengers…pdv, in his bid to also act like he is his “own man” didn’t want to play a fetcher until his hand was forced by the repeated rape of our ball possession in the tri-nations last year! Then we saw him flirt with the idea by introducing brussel sprout in the EOYT…
Schalk must chill for now brussouw’s got these lions in check!
Hi Grant!
22 Jun 2009, 14:35 pm
If jacques starts at 13, then this will be the backline jake envisioned after the world cup. It could be really destructive, ruan and frans just need a bit more time to settle into their positions. excellent decision makers at 9 & 10, game breakers at 11 & 14, solid, hard running centres with some guile to go with it. And a thunderous boot and strong cover defender at 15. Well balanced I’d say!
22 Jun 2009, 14:35 pm
#42 grootblousmile: Mossie seems injury prone as well….heard he also has a shoulder now but should be okay for the weekend
22 Jun 2009, 14:36 pm
Januarie’s first 2 passes to Morne Steyn are loopy, no good passes… Morne stays nice and calm under the unnecessary presure
22 Jun 2009, 14:38 pm
Habana defended like a Trojan all game… very high defensive work rate !
Go Habs !!
22 Jun 2009, 14:40 pm
#43 Transformation: Hi Boet…
I have advocated an out and out fetcher since 2006…we definitley chose to swim agaist the tide on this issue….and often paid the price…schalk is a blindside flank optoion only in my book….and more and more saffas are tending to warm to the idea of the scavenger nowadays…
Another point….Steggmann is as good as brussow…i rate him highly….and the mbiyo chap from the southern kings put his hands up as well…
crunch decision time for PDV…lets hope he doesent get it wrong
22 Jun 2009, 14:41 pm
Langbek’s kuk defence lets Philips through for his try at 75 min 20 secs
Langbek should’nt be on the bench… put Schalla there in stead.
Januarie knocks at 76 min 20… oi
John Smit comes back at 76 min 40
22 Jun 2009, 14:43 pm
#49 grootblousmile: having danie and Bekker on the bench makes no sense whatsoever
22 Jun 2009, 14:45 pm
Lions had ALL the possession from about the 55th minute…
That’s why their possession stats are so good…
22 Jun 2009, 14:47 pm
#51 grootblousmile: i hope the bok management have studied and come to some firm conclusions….that was too close for comfort
22 Jun 2009, 14:51 pm
#50 grant10: No sense, that’s why I advocated a specialist Fetcher on the bench at least and why I was so bloody angry at Snorre’s initial squad… there was not even one fetcher in the original 28… FFS!!
With Brussouw drafted into the squad, there was only one, considering Schalla’s injury as well as the fact that Schalla is’nt a fetcher… still wrong… there needs to be 2 fetchers at ALL times…
Had Zane been there, Frans Steyn could have been used as midfield backup, to shore up defences there… but Snorrie chose no Fullbacks…. WTF ??
Snorrie’s selections from the start, put the Bokke in a quandry…
22 Jun 2009, 14:54 pm
#49 grootblousmile:
That try wasn’t just Bekker’s fault. Go watch the tape carefully. The Lions number 8 gets up, and then pushes the bok defender standing behind the ruck with his shoulder.
Not a big push, but enough to change his momentum so much that he has to take a step the other way, creating the gap for Philips.
22 Jun 2009, 14:56 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cr_Z6qoHEXQ
at 8:19 seconds..
22 Jun 2009, 15:01 pm
#55 wpjoulekkading: I’ve got the whole PVR recording… I don’t need youtube to tell me that Langbek does’nt deserve a spot on the Bokke bench or even in the Bokke squad… he’s just keeping a fetcher out of the squad.
22 Jun 2009, 15:08 pm
#56 grootblousmile:
Well done, your PVR makes you a rugby expert.
What a jerk.
Go use your wonderful PVR to watch that try carefully, and if you don’t see the Lions 8 create the gap instead of Bekker shifting too much you are blind.
If you grow up maybe we can discuss team selections, but until then i’ve got better things to do.
22 Jun 2009, 15:10 pm
Gbs, can you check if tom crofts’ 2nd try has any relation to frans’ knock-on, i saw someone here on saturday trying to blame frans for that, can you confirm?
22 Jun 2009, 15:10 pm
I think the management should delay the call on Schalk until after the third test…
22 Jun 2009, 15:10 pm
#53 grootblousmile: very unbalanced squad from the word go….
Zane was done an injustice….Brussow and Steggmann should both have been there….
Not too late….the days of going into tests without the opensider seem numbered….
22 Jun 2009, 15:13 pm
#59 gunther: LOL….finally i am being vindicated …people coming round to the neccessity of a true opensider…and in brussow and steggmann sa has 2 of the best !
22 Jun 2009, 15:16 pm
#53 grootblousmile:I remember Soda Joe advocating the use of f steyn at 12 vs lions….specifically for his defence….he may yet be proven a prophet!!!
22 Jun 2009, 15:17 pm
#59 gunther: lol…i concur fully gunther, but we know that won’t happen, schalk burger snr will throw his toys if his boy if “denied” the once-in-a-lifetime chance to play against the lions…lol
22 Jun 2009, 15:22 pm
#60 grant10: What people fail to see is that Snorrie’s initial squad contained 24 or so players who was natural and immediate selections, any fool would have chosen that 24… the foolish selections comes in the last 4 selections… Carstens, Langbek, Januarie and Rose.
It really is inexcusable…
Who should have been there all along ?? What about Brussouw, Vermaak, Zaneand Jannie Dup
This past Saturday proves it !!
Man, I get heated over this lot !!
22 Jun 2009, 15:22 pm
#61 grant10:
schalk will need to compete with Smith for the no 7 spot…
22 Jun 2009, 15:22 pm
#63 Transformation: schalk can come on for juan or spies …leave the brussel sprout to wreak his havoc
22 Jun 2009, 15:25 pm
#64 grootblousmile: you are 100% correct…the squad was hopelessly unbalanced…for sure i would of had Kirchner, brussow , vermaak and Werner Kruger there…..and only because CJ AND BJ seemingly overlooked…
22 Jun 2009, 15:27 pm
#65 gunther: since 2006 we have been avoiding that choice….now Brussow has made a huge steatement…really concerned though that we may drop him….will be very counter productive
22 Jun 2009, 15:30 pm
#62 grant10: The great defenders at 12 this year has been only Wynand Meisiekind and Fransie Steyn… facts
The outside centre berth is a problem, with both Adi and Jacque having been injured for a large part at the end of the S 14…
Hell, having watched Mossie miss some tackles as you pointed out, makes me think I would have Meisiekind at 12 and Jean de V at 13 for this Saturday…
Still not convinced about Ruan’s defence either… in general play and kicking he excelled Saturday, but his defence was a bit thin…
22 Jun 2009, 15:32 pm
#67 grant10: I’m hesitant to push Werner Kruger too quickly… but hell man, we need a specialist back-up tighthead… not just another Loosehead (Carstens)
So who are the candidates…. BJ, CJ (injured), Jannie Dup, Werner Kruger…. surely… in that order too..
22 Jun 2009, 15:33 pm
Snorre kan seker nie vir Adi drop nie, dan is die span nie gekleur genoeg nie. Moes vir Zane daar gehad het, dan was sy probleme opgelos.
22 Jun 2009, 15:34 pm
#66 grant10: i’m not going to applaud pdv just yet, he was forced to make this move by burger’s injury! You heard him spout that he plans 60% of his loosie “gameplan” around schalk, so i’m not convinced yet that he has seen the light, because he could’ve taken out juan & replaced him with russouw & leave heinrich to steel or slow down the lions’ ball in that last 15 minutes…but no, he wanted spies, juan & danie…
22 Jun 2009, 15:35 pm
#69 grootblousmile: yes…i would start with WO at 12…he deserves it…and jean d v at 13….JDV does a lot of play from 13 at stormers any way…
Mossie is not 100 % as yet…perhaps at ellis park….adi is definitley going through a confidence crisis…not sure if he is 100 %….horses for courses …WO deserves a spot….lets see…
22 Jun 2009, 15:39 pm
#70 grootblousmile: Jannie dup looked out of shape agaist the lions for sharks…but in essence of course we should have a proper tighthead on the bench …carstens is a decent loosehead but at this level at 3 he is lost….Werner has come on in leaps and bounds this year,,,,,but perhaps prudent to blood him in a lesser series….
Now Kirchner and Brussow bashed the door down…cant understand there treatment
22 Jun 2009, 15:41 pm
#73 grant10: Adi seems scared to take “Full contact”…. shoulder perhaps still not 100% ??
I just know I’m going to be the moerrrrr in tomorrow when the Team and bench is announced for Saturday…
Watch… Snorrie will pick Schalla at Openside and Adi will still be there… **** my lied !!
22 Jun 2009, 15:41 pm
#63 Transformation:
nope thats luke’s dad schalk’s dad oesn’t get involved …. see you still trying to dig up the dirt on steyn its a lonely crusade….
22 Jun 2009, 15:41 pm
#72 Transformation: you are right….the selection process once schalk is fit will be the litmus test…that 3 big ball carrying loosies will have me in bloody state mate….those days must be gone….
22 Jun 2009, 15:42 pm
#69 grootblousmile: nope, fransie’s defence was picked apart by leallifano & digby ioanne this year! Go watch that brumbies match you’ll see how that boy exposed him…
22 Jun 2009, 15:47 pm
#75 grootblousmile: so they announcing team tomorrow??
I am not sure GBS….i think PDV may have seen the light…Adi is nursing that shoulder…i know the hell i have with a buggered shoulder and neck…its sore as all hell and ione cannot help but be careful …
Adi mustnt play if he isnt 100%….he must rather withdraw…he was brilliant last year and is obviously suffering….he wont do himself or the boks any favours by trying to play through the pain barriers…
22 Jun 2009, 15:51 pm
#79 grant10: Yeah, Team announcement tomorrow…
22 Jun 2009, 15:57 pm
#76 gunther: that’s what he’d like you to believe, he’ll get his chums the ruperts to make noises & schalk will be there…
the point i’m trying to make re steyn, is that anyone can find fault in a player if they look close enough & trumpet those weaknesses…otherwise i have no beef with young francois, it’s his fanclub that need to pipedown!
22 Jun 2009, 16:00 pm
Ouens
Ek het daai game al twee keer gekyk na Saterdag en verstaan nog steeds nie die bohaai oor Brussow nie? Hy het in die eerste helfde een tackle ingesit wat saak gemaak het, een keer die bal agter ‘n Lion sktum opgetel en daar was eenkeer wat hy dalk die oorsaak was vir ‘n stadige Lions bal. Verder het hy twee keer soos ‘n vrot vel uit die losskrum getrek. Hy het nie een keer die bal gedra nie, en daai drie van hom kon enige een gedruk het. En om alles te kroon, ‘n jaar terug het almal tereg genoem dat Puke Watson te klein is vir die Bokspan, nou Brussow is nog ligter en korter as Puke!! Verder het Juan laasweek gesê dat Brussow soms ‘n bietjie hardpraat nodig het om vuur onder sy gat te kry!!
Nee wat, ek speel eerder elke game met ‘n ou wat kan tackle soos Schalk in my span. Ons het die WC gewen met Scalla en Juan, so al wat ons eintlik kort is ‘n 8ste man om hulle te komplimenteer. As Brussow so 5cm langer was en so 5 kg swaarder was kon hy dalk daai rol gevul het, tot dan moet hy maar dit vir die grootmanne los om die games vir ons te wen!
22 Jun 2009, 16:08 pm
KINGPAUL, jy praat twak. Hy het meer tackles ingesit as enige ander speler in die span. Heerlikheid man, het jy al ooit rugby gespeel? Klink wragtig nie so nie. Het jy nie gesien wat gebeur toe Rossouw hom vervang nie? Nee wragtig. Bly liewer stil.
PS: Brussouw is gekies om agter die losgemaal te wees omdat hy dit so goed beheer. Hy het meeste van sy driee vir die Cheetahs op daardie manier gekry.
22 Jun 2009, 16:10 pm
#82 KingPaul: Haal die oogklappe AFFFFFFF, dan kyk jy weer…. flokken WP manne darem… jy wil net vir Schalla daar he, dis al hoekom jy so Brussouw-negatief is…. flok !
22 Jun 2009, 16:12 pm
#82 KingPaul: nee bliksem boet….gaan koop n bril….sommer n dik ene!!
22 Jun 2009, 16:13 pm
#82 KingPaul: Het jy ook die Bok implosion gesien toe Brussow vervang is?
22 Jun 2009, 16:14 pm
#76 gunther:
GrootSchalk will be the last man who want his son out there if the boy is not 100% fit, believe me.
That I know for FACT.
22 Jun 2009, 16:15 pm
#83 Bouts: Boeta, ek vra jou net om weer na die game te gaan kyk, veral die eerste helfde. Hy het net een tackle ingesit waar die speler met bal en al vasgevat was, die res van die tyd het die speler die bal weggekry. Gaan kyk die game weer voor jy met beledingings kom. Ons het in die eerste helfde ook net so 40% balbesit gehad, en dit was meerendeels te danke aan al die strafskoppe wat Beast afgedwing het en die lynstaan balle wat ons gesteel het.
22 Jun 2009, 16:15 pm
brussow or steggman have to play for boks going forward….Hell it is so obvious !!
22 Jun 2009, 16:18 pm
#81 Transformation:
bru everybody knows that Luke’s father was pressuring de viliers to play him…. everybody who was on that tour sa it plain as day…. as for the Burger/Rupert conspiracy you are being far fetched …..
22 Jun 2009, 16:18 pm
#88 KingPaul: KP – maar hys ook nie bedoel om al die tackles te maak nie – hys bedoel om die tweede ou by die tackle te wees sodat hy die bal kan steel, nie waar nie?
22 Jun 2009, 16:18 pm
#82 KingPaul:
Nee fokkit bru, nou praat jy jare se kukkas.
Gaan kyk weer wat daar op die grond aangegaan het, en hou # 6 dop.
En kyk wie het Roberts van agter geduik toe hy amper deur was.
Brussouw is vinnger as Luke, en hy speel nader aan die afbreekpunte, heeltyd.
Hy is miskien nie so n goeie linkman soos Luke nie, maar hy is beslis vinniger en beter op die grond (a la Neil Beck en J-P Reeves).
22 Jun 2009, 16:20 pm
#88 KingPaul: Brussouw was ‘n sleutelspeler Saterdag…. net soos Beast ‘n sleutelspeler was… en Bakkies en Matfield en John Smit…
Daai ou se waarde sal jy dalk Saterdag eers behoorlik “sien” as Schalla in sy plek speel…
22 Jun 2009, 16:20 pm
#88 KingPaul:
As Schalk reg is, moet hy speel, van die bank af, op #7, waar hy hoort.
22 Jun 2009, 16:22 pm
#84 grootblousmile: #85 grant10: #86 Hier kom groot k..:
Gaan kyk julle maar almal weer die game, veral die eerste helfde. Die verskil het gekom toe Beast en Barney afgehaal is. Brussow het niks meer gedoen as enige van die ander twee flanke nie.
En weereens, nie nodig dat julle op my vloek nie, gaan kyk die game!!
22 Jun 2009, 16:26 pm
#94 KingPaul: ek het nie gevloek nie….ek het gelag en vra dat u bril koop…sal ook nie vir u vloek nie…as jy n kiwi was het ek gese ‘jou moer’…maar jy is n mede kaapenaar!!!
22 Jun 2009, 16:26 pm
Spies/Kanko/Duane
Juan/Schalk/Dewald
Brussow/Stegmann/Botes
22 Jun 2009, 16:28 pm
#94 KingPaul: Ek het die afgelope 4 ure niks anders gedoen as om die game te kyk en minuut vir minuut te analiseer nie….
Nee man, kry net in jou kop ons stem nie met jou saam dat Brussouw average was nie…
Ons grootste foute / gate / tekortkominge was rondom verdediging in die Nr 10, 12 en 13 posisies… benewens nou natuurlik Snorre se subs breinontploffing !
22 Jun 2009, 16:29 pm
#96 bdsb: Ben die Springbok: jy is n slim jan….
22 Jun 2009, 16:30 pm
#92 grootblousmile: Nee wat, kom ons kom ooreen om te verskil. My opinie was dat Brussow geen impak gehad het op Saterdag wat verby was se game nie. Nie dat hy sleg gespeel het nie, hy was beslis beter as Spies, maar sy werkverigting was maar power. Kies dan eerder vir Stegmann…
#91 bokfan1: Reg, maar hoeveel balle het hy gesteel?
22 Jun 2009, 16:31 pm
Nee man….speel vir Juan op agsteman en vir schalla en brussouw. Ek wag nog vir spies om ‘n groot game in die boktrui te speel….teen ‘n ordentlike span…..lyk my ek gaan lank wag.
22 Jun 2009, 16:31 pm
#94 KingPaul:
Ek stem saam KingPaul.
Die media/publiek kry erens ‘n idee, en dan word dit oor en oor herhaal tot almal later dink dis ‘n feit. Ek sê nie Brussouw is nie goed nie, maar hy is verseker nie so goed soos almal hom laat klink nie. Of elk geval verseker nie in Saterdag se game nie.
Boonop kry mens dan nog op die forums een of twee karakters wat dieselfde ding oor en oor sê, wat dan veroorsaak dat voel of die hele forum is wat so dink. En meanwhile is die een bleddie ou wat dieselfde ding op 10 verskillende plekke gesê het.
Wel hier is my poging om die Burger mite te breek: Burger hoef nie op 7 te speel nie, hy kan ook fetch as dit sy opdrag is! Vergeet julle dan so gou hoe hy gespeel het toe hy begin het? Ek sweer daai ding was by ELKE ruck. Toe se Jake vir hom hy moet bal-draer wees, dis hoekom sy spel verander het.
22 Jun 2009, 16:31 pm
dit sal beter gaan die ne week….ek was bang vir daai durban toets….nou sal ons verbeter….wag net….hier gaan n ding kom saterdag…
22 Jun 2009, 16:34 pm
#101 wpjoulekkading: vra vir Kingpaul….miskien kry julle n 2 for the price of one special op daai dik brille??
22 Jun 2009, 16:34 pm
#94 KingPaul: Ek vra nederig om verskoning dat ek op jou in #86 gevloek het??? My vloek was net so erg soos Brussow se nutteloosheid
In elk geval, ons kan debateer tot ons blou is – Piet Helium maak die besluite en kom ons hoop net hy het iets geleer laas Saterdag!
22 Jun 2009, 16:37 pm
#97 grootblousmile: Sien, ek dink wraagtig jy suip skelm as jy net daai as ons fout uitlig. hehehe. Behalwe daai wat jy genoem het en Divvie se brein ontploffing dink ek regtig ons agterlyn was te konserwatief. Daar was wynig kere dat die bal tot by die vleuels gepass is. En hoekom is daar nie meer van Spies gebruik gemak om in die aanval tussen die senters te dummy of die bal te dra nie? Dan was ons up&unders pateties gewees. As daar nie ouens is wat voor die skopper is nie, is daar niemand naby wanneer die bal afkom nie. Die tye wat daar wel iemand was om te kompiteer het ons seker goed 50% van die tye die bal terug gewen.
22 Jun 2009, 16:38 pm
#105 KingPaul: die ouens was erg rusty….nog steeds gewen….ons sal verbeter…
22 Jun 2009, 16:38 pm
#98 grant10: My ma sê ook so.
#100 K9 the Lion: King of Beasts: Juan is nie agsteman nie, dan eerder Danie. Wat het jy teen Spies ? o, wag, dit is K9 …
22 Jun 2009, 16:40 pm
#104 Hier kom groot k..: Ek hoop Hellium het geleer dat geen afrigter dit kan bekostig om sy kaptein, sy yster voorry, sy yster slot en sy verdedigings organizer aftehaal voor die eindfluitjie geblaas het nie. En dan kort **** Muir ‘n paar PK’s!!
22 Jun 2009, 16:42 pm
#107 bdsb: Ben die Springbok: Hy moet op internasionale vlak begin iets wys…..het nog nooit……..behalwe teen Engeland C daai een jaar. Alles hype. Kannie ‘n vleuel no8 laat speel nie.
22 Jun 2009, 16:43 pm
Hey, julle moet ophou skoorsoek met my bra KingPaul, net omdat hy kukpraat oor Brussouw….hy is n goeie outjie, hy het maar net n ‘soft spot’ vir Luke (my pa ook), hehehehe!
22 Jun 2009, 16:44 pm
#105 KingPaul: Ek stem saam KP, ons moet nie net vir Bekker uitlig nie, almal het eintlik goed gespeel behalwe Bekker, Januarie en JDV …
22 Jun 2009, 16:48 pm
#110 Pietman: hehehe, ek like Puke soos rooi jam, en ek like rooi jam f@kkol!!
Wat ek wel like is groot losvoorspelers. Ouens vir wie die ander spanne bang is. Ouens wat die witk@k uit jou tackle!!
22 Jun 2009, 16:49 pm
#109 K9 the Lion: King of Beasts: Spies het saterdag ‘n harde maar stiller wedstryd beleef, hy was nie sleg nie. Miskien word hy verkeerd, of beter gestel, ‘anders’ aangewend in die bokopset ?
22 Jun 2009, 16:49 pm
#105 KingPaul: Jy lees ookie mooi nie of “sien” nie mooi wat jy lees nie… ek het verwys na ons foute op direkte verdediging…
Ek weet ons het foute gemaak op die aanval…. op op die gebrek aan bal wyd speel en ek dink ons taktiese skopwerk was swak.
Ek dink ook Spies was onderbenut op aanval / deurbars… maar dit was duidelik nie die rol wat Snorrie hulle vir hom bestem het Saterdag nie.
Eerlikwaar sou ek steeds vir Morne Steyn begin, met Olivier op 12 en Jean na 13… nie Adi of Mossie het my beindruk op verdediging of op aanval nie…
Ek kan nog dinge byvoeg, maar mens moet julle dom donners stadig voer, anders haak die kop los….
22 Jun 2009, 16:52 pm
#112 KingPaul: Dan moet ons die volgende lostrio kies:
Burger
Juan
Danie
22 Jun 2009, 16:56 pm
#78 Transformation:
steynmade 11 tackles and missed 1 against the brumbies….
22 Jun 2009, 17:05 pm
#116 gunther: where do you get that? Hey i’m going to tell you like they always say here on keo “lies, damned lies & statistics”, was he one tackle he missed the one leallifano score a try on?
22 Jun 2009, 17:28 pm
Carstens injury needs to continue and Werner Kruger gets drafted in.
Kruger needs to do a Brussow and put his hand up big time, he has a chance.
I also wish Zane well.
22 Jun 2009, 17:39 pm
#118 SodaJoe: Regarding Werner Kruger…. I’ll say this in Afrikaans, hoping that your Afrikaans has’nt degraded so far in the States so as not for you to understand…
Mens kannie ‘n vrug te gou ryp druk nie… vroeg ryp, vroeg vrot !
In other words I think we are a bit premature in thinking Werner Kruger will solve our tight head problems now already… give the man a year or so to prove his tight head prowess.
22 Jun 2009, 17:48 pm
#119 grootblousmile: Hy sal reg wees vir 2011.
22 Jun 2009, 18:12 pm
#117 Transformation:
its only lies damned lies and statistics when they don’t agree with what you hae to say…. find a new crusade…. maybe the plight of abused children in south africa….
22 Jun 2009, 18:16 pm
#118 SodaJoe:
I don’t think carstens injury was genuine!
22 Jun 2009, 18:19 pm
#121 gunther: that one should be embraced by all of us…
22 Jun 2009, 18:38 pm
#123 Transformation:
quite rightly…
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