Call on Schalk delayed
22 Jun 2009
The Springbok management are still reluctant to confirm Schalk Burger’s availability for the second Test.
Burger missed the first match against the British & Irish Lions due to a calf injury that has sidelined him since the back end of the Super 14. The Bok management delivered mixed messages last week in the build-up to the series opener, and team doctor Craig Roberts said they were still reluctant to give the media a final answer.
‘Schalk has done really well in the past week and has rejoined the team for training,’ he told keo.co.za. ‘We are still monitoring him at the moment, so I don’t want to say he will definitely play.’
Roberts said every member of the 29-man squad trained on Monday morning including injury concerns Fourie du Preez and Deon Carstens. Both players ended Saturday’s win over the Lions with shoulder injuries, but Roberts is confident they will be available for selection.
‘Fourie’s injury wasn’t as bad as we initially thought and he has been responding to treatment. The knock hasn’t stopped him from training.
‘Deon Carstens is also responding to treatment for a stinger to his shoulder. He has had the problem before, so we took him off the field on Saturday as we didn’t want to take any chances.’
Carstens went off during a period where the Boks were falling apart, and his exit saw captain John Smit returning to the field. Roberts said Carstens was a genuine injury concern and the fact that Smit’s return would boost the Bok leadership never influenced the substitution.
‘I can confirm there was no other reason to take Deon off. There are protocols you need to follow. The match doctor assessed him and agreed that he needed to come off,’ Roberts said.
The Boks will name their match 22 for the second Test at Loftus Versfeld on Tuesday.
By Jon Cardinelli, in Johannesburg
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22 Jun 2009, 14:45 pm
Lions had ALL the possession from about the 55th minute…
That’s why their possession stats are so good…
22 Jun 2009, 14:47 pm
#51 grootblousmile: i hope the bok management have studied and come to some firm conclusions….that was too close for comfort
22 Jun 2009, 14:51 pm
#50 grant10: No sense, that’s why I advocated a specialist Fetcher on the bench at least and why I was so bloody angry at Snorre’s initial squad… there was not even one fetcher in the original 28… FFS!!
With Brussouw drafted into the squad, there was only one, considering Schalla’s injury as well as the fact that Schalla is’nt a fetcher… still wrong… there needs to be 2 fetchers at ALL times…
Had Zane been there, Frans Steyn could have been used as midfield backup, to shore up defences there… but Snorrie chose no Fullbacks…. WTF ??
Snorrie’s selections from the start, put the Bokke in a quandry…
22 Jun 2009, 14:54 pm
#49 grootblousmile:
That try wasn’t just Bekker’s fault. Go watch the tape carefully. The Lions number 8 gets up, and then pushes the bok defender standing behind the ruck with his shoulder.
Not a big push, but enough to change his momentum so much that he has to take a step the other way, creating the gap for Philips.
22 Jun 2009, 14:56 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cr_Z6qoHEXQ
at 8:19 seconds..
22 Jun 2009, 15:01 pm
#55 wpjoulekkading: I’ve got the whole PVR recording… I don’t need youtube to tell me that Langbek does’nt deserve a spot on the Bokke bench or even in the Bokke squad… he’s just keeping a fetcher out of the squad.
22 Jun 2009, 15:08 pm
#56 grootblousmile:
Well done, your PVR makes you a rugby expert.
What a jerk.
Go use your wonderful PVR to watch that try carefully, and if you don’t see the Lions 8 create the gap instead of Bekker shifting too much you are blind.
If you grow up maybe we can discuss team selections, but until then i’ve got better things to do.
22 Jun 2009, 15:10 pm
Gbs, can you check if tom crofts’ 2nd try has any relation to frans’ knock-on, i saw someone here on saturday trying to blame frans for that, can you confirm?
22 Jun 2009, 15:10 pm
I think the management should delay the call on Schalk until after the third test…
22 Jun 2009, 15:10 pm
#53 grootblousmile: very unbalanced squad from the word go….
Zane was done an injustice….Brussow and Steggmann should both have been there….
Not too late….the days of going into tests without the opensider seem numbered….
22 Jun 2009, 15:13 pm
#59 gunther: LOL….finally i am being vindicated …people coming round to the neccessity of a true opensider…and in brussow and steggmann sa has 2 of the best !
22 Jun 2009, 15:16 pm
#53 grootblousmile:I remember Soda Joe advocating the use of f steyn at 12 vs lions….specifically for his defence….he may yet be proven a prophet!!!
22 Jun 2009, 15:17 pm
#59 gunther: lol…i concur fully gunther, but we know that won’t happen, schalk burger snr will throw his toys if his boy if “denied” the once-in-a-lifetime chance to play against the lions…lol
22 Jun 2009, 15:22 pm
#60 grant10: What people fail to see is that Snorrie’s initial squad contained 24 or so players who was natural and immediate selections, any fool would have chosen that 24… the foolish selections comes in the last 4 selections… Carstens, Langbek, Januarie and Rose.
It really is inexcusable…
Who should have been there all along ?? What about Brussouw, Vermaak, Zaneand Jannie Dup
This past Saturday proves it !!
Man, I get heated over this lot !!
22 Jun 2009, 15:22 pm
#61 grant10:
schalk will need to compete with Smith for the no 7 spot…
22 Jun 2009, 15:22 pm
#63 Transformation: schalk can come on for juan or spies …leave the brussel sprout to wreak his havoc
22 Jun 2009, 15:25 pm
#64 grootblousmile: you are 100% correct…the squad was hopelessly unbalanced…for sure i would of had Kirchner, brussow , vermaak and Werner Kruger there…..and only because CJ AND BJ seemingly overlooked…
22 Jun 2009, 15:27 pm
#65 gunther: since 2006 we have been avoiding that choice….now Brussow has made a huge steatement…really concerned though that we may drop him….will be very counter productive
22 Jun 2009, 15:30 pm
#62 grant10: The great defenders at 12 this year has been only Wynand Meisiekind and Fransie Steyn… facts
The outside centre berth is a problem, with both Adi and Jacque having been injured for a large part at the end of the S 14…
Hell, having watched Mossie miss some tackles as you pointed out, makes me think I would have Meisiekind at 12 and Jean de V at 13 for this Saturday…
Still not convinced about Ruan’s defence either… in general play and kicking he excelled Saturday, but his defence was a bit thin…
22 Jun 2009, 15:32 pm
#67 grant10: I’m hesitant to push Werner Kruger too quickly… but hell man, we need a specialist back-up tighthead… not just another Loosehead (Carstens)
So who are the candidates…. BJ, CJ (injured), Jannie Dup, Werner Kruger…. surely… in that order too..
22 Jun 2009, 15:33 pm
Snorre kan seker nie vir Adi drop nie, dan is die span nie gekleur genoeg nie. Moes vir Zane daar gehad het, dan was sy probleme opgelos.
22 Jun 2009, 15:34 pm
#66 grant10: i’m not going to applaud pdv just yet, he was forced to make this move by burger’s injury! You heard him spout that he plans 60% of his loosie “gameplan” around schalk, so i’m not convinced yet that he has seen the light, because he could’ve taken out juan & replaced him with russouw & leave heinrich to steel or slow down the lions’ ball in that last 15 minutes…but no, he wanted spies, juan & danie…
22 Jun 2009, 15:35 pm
#69 grootblousmile: yes…i would start with WO at 12…he deserves it…and jean d v at 13….JDV does a lot of play from 13 at stormers any way…
Mossie is not 100 % as yet…perhaps at ellis park….adi is definitley going through a confidence crisis…not sure if he is 100 %….horses for courses …WO deserves a spot….lets see…
22 Jun 2009, 15:39 pm
#70 grootblousmile: Jannie dup looked out of shape agaist the lions for sharks…but in essence of course we should have a proper tighthead on the bench …carstens is a decent loosehead but at this level at 3 he is lost….Werner has come on in leaps and bounds this year,,,,,but perhaps prudent to blood him in a lesser series….
Now Kirchner and Brussow bashed the door down…cant understand there treatment
22 Jun 2009, 15:41 pm
#73 grant10: Adi seems scared to take “Full contact”…. shoulder perhaps still not 100% ??
I just know I’m going to be the moerrrrr in tomorrow when the Team and bench is announced for Saturday…
Watch… Snorrie will pick Schalla at Openside and Adi will still be there… **** my lied !!
22 Jun 2009, 15:41 pm
#63 Transformation:
nope thats luke’s dad schalk’s dad oesn’t get involved …. see you still trying to dig up the dirt on steyn its a lonely crusade….
22 Jun 2009, 15:41 pm
#72 Transformation: you are right….the selection process once schalk is fit will be the litmus test…that 3 big ball carrying loosies will have me in bloody state mate….those days must be gone….
22 Jun 2009, 15:42 pm
#69 grootblousmile: nope, fransie’s defence was picked apart by leallifano & digby ioanne this year! Go watch that brumbies match you’ll see how that boy exposed him…
22 Jun 2009, 15:47 pm
#75 grootblousmile: so they announcing team tomorrow??
I am not sure GBS….i think PDV may have seen the light…Adi is nursing that shoulder…i know the hell i have with a buggered shoulder and neck…its sore as all hell and ione cannot help but be careful …
Adi mustnt play if he isnt 100%….he must rather withdraw…he was brilliant last year and is obviously suffering….he wont do himself or the boks any favours by trying to play through the pain barriers…
22 Jun 2009, 15:51 pm
#79 grant10: Yeah, Team announcement tomorrow…
22 Jun 2009, 15:57 pm
#76 gunther: that’s what he’d like you to believe, he’ll get his chums the ruperts to make noises & schalk will be there…
the point i’m trying to make re steyn, is that anyone can find fault in a player if they look close enough & trumpet those weaknesses…otherwise i have no beef with young francois, it’s his fanclub that need to pipedown!
22 Jun 2009, 16:00 pm
Ouens
Ek het daai game al twee keer gekyk na Saterdag en verstaan nog steeds nie die bohaai oor Brussow nie? Hy het in die eerste helfde een tackle ingesit wat saak gemaak het, een keer die bal agter ‘n Lion sktum opgetel en daar was eenkeer wat hy dalk die oorsaak was vir ‘n stadige Lions bal. Verder het hy twee keer soos ‘n vrot vel uit die losskrum getrek. Hy het nie een keer die bal gedra nie, en daai drie van hom kon enige een gedruk het. En om alles te kroon, ‘n jaar terug het almal tereg genoem dat Puke Watson te klein is vir die Bokspan, nou Brussow is nog ligter en korter as Puke!! Verder het Juan laasweek gesê dat Brussow soms ‘n bietjie hardpraat nodig het om vuur onder sy gat te kry!!
Nee wat, ek speel eerder elke game met ‘n ou wat kan tackle soos Schalk in my span. Ons het die WC gewen met Scalla en Juan, so al wat ons eintlik kort is ‘n 8ste man om hulle te komplimenteer. As Brussow so 5cm langer was en so 5 kg swaarder was kon hy dalk daai rol gevul het, tot dan moet hy maar dit vir die grootmanne los om die games vir ons te wen!
22 Jun 2009, 16:08 pm
KINGPAUL, jy praat twak. Hy het meer tackles ingesit as enige ander speler in die span. Heerlikheid man, het jy al ooit rugby gespeel? Klink wragtig nie so nie. Het jy nie gesien wat gebeur toe Rossouw hom vervang nie? Nee wragtig. Bly liewer stil.
PS: Brussouw is gekies om agter die losgemaal te wees omdat hy dit so goed beheer. Hy het meeste van sy driee vir die Cheetahs op daardie manier gekry.
22 Jun 2009, 16:10 pm
#82 KingPaul: Haal die oogklappe AFFFFFFF, dan kyk jy weer…. flokken WP manne darem… jy wil net vir Schalla daar he, dis al hoekom jy so Brussouw-negatief is…. flok !
22 Jun 2009, 16:12 pm
#82 KingPaul: nee bliksem boet….gaan koop n bril….sommer n dik ene!!
22 Jun 2009, 16:13 pm
#82 KingPaul: Het jy ook die Bok implosion gesien toe Brussow vervang is?
22 Jun 2009, 16:14 pm
#76 gunther:
GrootSchalk will be the last man who want his son out there if the boy is not 100% fit, believe me.
That I know for FACT.
22 Jun 2009, 16:15 pm
#83 Bouts: Boeta, ek vra jou net om weer na die game te gaan kyk, veral die eerste helfde. Hy het net een tackle ingesit waar die speler met bal en al vasgevat was, die res van die tyd het die speler die bal weggekry. Gaan kyk die game weer voor jy met beledingings kom. Ons het in die eerste helfde ook net so 40% balbesit gehad, en dit was meerendeels te danke aan al die strafskoppe wat Beast afgedwing het en die lynstaan balle wat ons gesteel het.
22 Jun 2009, 16:15 pm
brussow or steggman have to play for boks going forward….Hell it is so obvious !!
22 Jun 2009, 16:18 pm
#81 Transformation:
bru everybody knows that Luke’s father was pressuring de viliers to play him…. everybody who was on that tour sa it plain as day…. as for the Burger/Rupert conspiracy you are being far fetched …..
22 Jun 2009, 16:18 pm
#88 KingPaul: KP – maar hys ook nie bedoel om al die tackles te maak nie – hys bedoel om die tweede ou by die tackle te wees sodat hy die bal kan steel, nie waar nie?
22 Jun 2009, 16:18 pm
#82 KingPaul:
Nee fokkit bru, nou praat jy jare se kukkas.
Gaan kyk weer wat daar op die grond aangegaan het, en hou # 6 dop.
En kyk wie het Roberts van agter geduik toe hy amper deur was.
Brussouw is vinnger as Luke, en hy speel nader aan die afbreekpunte, heeltyd.
Hy is miskien nie so n goeie linkman soos Luke nie, maar hy is beslis vinniger en beter op die grond (a la Neil Beck en J-P Reeves).
22 Jun 2009, 16:20 pm
#88 KingPaul: Brussouw was ‘n sleutelspeler Saterdag…. net soos Beast ‘n sleutelspeler was… en Bakkies en Matfield en John Smit…
Daai ou se waarde sal jy dalk Saterdag eers behoorlik “sien” as Schalla in sy plek speel…
22 Jun 2009, 16:20 pm
#88 KingPaul:
As Schalk reg is, moet hy speel, van die bank af, op #7, waar hy hoort.
22 Jun 2009, 16:22 pm
#84 grootblousmile: #85 grant10: #86 Hier kom groot k..:
Gaan kyk julle maar almal weer die game, veral die eerste helfde. Die verskil het gekom toe Beast en Barney afgehaal is. Brussow het niks meer gedoen as enige van die ander twee flanke nie.
En weereens, nie nodig dat julle op my vloek nie, gaan kyk die game!!
22 Jun 2009, 16:26 pm
#94 KingPaul: ek het nie gevloek nie….ek het gelag en vra dat u bril koop…sal ook nie vir u vloek nie…as jy n kiwi was het ek gese ‘jou moer’…maar jy is n mede kaapenaar!!!
22 Jun 2009, 16:26 pm
Spies/Kanko/Duane
Juan/Schalk/Dewald
Brussow/Stegmann/Botes
22 Jun 2009, 16:28 pm
#94 KingPaul: Ek het die afgelope 4 ure niks anders gedoen as om die game te kyk en minuut vir minuut te analiseer nie….
Nee man, kry net in jou kop ons stem nie met jou saam dat Brussouw average was nie…
Ons grootste foute / gate / tekortkominge was rondom verdediging in die Nr 10, 12 en 13 posisies… benewens nou natuurlik Snorre se subs breinontploffing !
22 Jun 2009, 16:29 pm
#96 bdsb: Ben die Springbok: jy is n slim jan….
22 Jun 2009, 16:30 pm
#92 grootblousmile: Nee wat, kom ons kom ooreen om te verskil. My opinie was dat Brussow geen impak gehad het op Saterdag wat verby was se game nie. Nie dat hy sleg gespeel het nie, hy was beslis beter as Spies, maar sy werkverigting was maar power. Kies dan eerder vir Stegmann…
#91 bokfan1: Reg, maar hoeveel balle het hy gesteel?
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