Emerging Boks sneak late draw
23 Jun 2009
Willem de Waal sank a touchline conversion after the hooter had sounded to hand the hosts a 13-all draw against the Lions.
The match was played in atrocious weather at Newlands, and as the rain came pouring down once more, De Waal converted Danwel Demas’s try from the right hand corner. De Waal also produced the floating skip pass which put the winger in.
It was yet again another match where the Lions couldn’t close it out as they led 10-0 after quarter of an hour, but failed to score again until 60 minutes later.
Early on the Lions enjoyed territorial dominance but Ronan O’Gara missed a fifth minute penalty straight in front of the poles after hands in the ruck. The Emerging Boks continued to be pinged at the breakdown and were spoken to by ref Alain Rolland after eight minutes for repeated infringements. On this occasion O’Gara couldn’t miss from 10m out to put his side into the lead.
While the Lions were being awarded penalties from most of the breakdowns, the Boks’ ball was slowed down whenever they went into contact. Martyn Williams was a menace at the breakdowns and the Boks had difficulty troubling the defence with slow ball.
From a South African perspective, a couple of players were in line to push for places into the senior squad. Zane Kirchner was one but he started badly as his low kick handed Keith Earls the first try of the match after Martyn Williams was gifted the ball from the Bulls fullback’s kick.
The Lions were 10-0 after 15 minutes without having done anything special.
Peter de Villiers has spoken much about Earl Rose’s ability, but he too found the pace up a level to anything he’s experienced before and was eventually moved to No 15 for De Waal. Rose wasted two turnovers when he held on too long – one which one sold Morgan Newman as he received man and ball – while he had two early kicks charged down, the first from behind his own goal-line.
Jano Vermaak’s bombs from the base also didn’t give his chasers a chance to compete, which gave the Lions plenty of possession as Andy Powell enjoyed the opportunities to run it back.
The Boks did manage to get on the scoreboard five minutes before the break and went in 10-3 down, very much in with a chance of a victory.
Rose slotted another from straight in front as the Emerging XV trailed 10-6 with half an hour remaining.
De Waal then made his appearance in a bid to win the territorial game as the game turned into a kick fest in windy conditions. As a result, the sides went into the final 10 minutes locked at four points difference.
With just four minutes to go, the Emerging Boks were penalised at scrum-time and replacement James Hook ensured they couldn’t lose the contest.
However, the Boks produced their best attack of the match from a lineout. The forwards set it up, and Demas and De Waal did the rest.
The visitors were visibly unhappy after the match as a number of them again didn’t stake claims for Test spots. Hook, on for O’Gara after 44 minutes, may be the one individual who forces his way on to the bench.
By Grant Ball, at Newlands
618 Comments
23 Jun 2009, 17:48 pm
Lions to win
23 Jun 2009, 17:58 pm
Go The Future,
Go Saffa,
Viva rugby Viva….!!!!
23 Jun 2009, 18:01 pm
Go Kirshner…show Helium how well you can swim like Michael Phelps.
Wet, wet, wet Newlands.
Can Earl the girl swim? That is the question.
23 Jun 2009, 18:02 pm
Is the Emerging Boks side made up entirely of players who have just admitted that they are ***?
23 Jun 2009, 18:04 pm
Damn it looks terrible there.
Low score for sure.
Anything can happen.
23 Jun 2009, 18:04 pm
Swirling winds and sheets of torrential rain at times.
Kickers will do well to get 50% of their kicks over tonight…
23 Jun 2009, 18:06 pm
#6 WP Till I Die:
Sounds like New Zealand rugby
23 Jun 2009, 18:09 pm
I hope nobody drowns.
23 Jun 2009, 18:09 pm
Can someone please give me an online site for the game?
23 Jun 2009, 18:14 pm
#9 chch: Paying? Legal? Or Pirate?
23 Jun 2009, 18:15 pm
#7 chch: Hahaahaha
23 Jun 2009, 18:21 pm
#10 bokfan1:
I have no problems with free as the coverage here has been sold to Foxtel and Foxtel won’t let me watch unless I sign a 7 year contract and agree to give them my first borne.
I refuse to let our game be sold off to be watched by an elite few (with one less child)
23 Jun 2009, 18:23 pm
#12 chch: Amen bro – I agree about that – a 7 year contract?! bl00dy hell.
Ive heard justin . tv shows them – not sure if its good, if it works or if its legal…
Not sure of any others – but there must be
23 Jun 2009, 18:28 pm
#13 bokfan1:
Yep, these channels are mostly on the Justin TV network. The thing is that most sports sites on Justin have been shut down because Sky have been actively threatening them.
23 Jun 2009, 18:42 pm
Campo oor laas Saterdag, by rugbyzone.com:
What’s that old joke about South Africa handing out gold watches and Kruger Rands for favours? All I can say is the Springboks owe Ugo Monye something nice and glittering.
If it hadn’t been for Monye the Boks would have lost the first Test against the Lions in Durban. It’s as simple as that.
Monye should have scored two tries and didn’t get either because he made mistakes that even 10-year-olds don’t do by not changing hands to protect the ball as he went for the tries – one in the first half and the other when the Lions were looking as though they might shock the Springboks with a come-from-behind win.
It’s just basic stuff – switching the ball to the other side so that it can’t be knocked out of your hands. Yet here’s an England and British Lions wing who doesn’t know how to do it! Just goes to show how robotic modern rugby has become that guys can get to this level without the basic skills.
And if that goes for the players what about South Africa’s coach? Peter de Villiers certainly can’t take credit for the win. If he didn’t have the World Cup players – Smit, Matfield and Du Preez – the Boks wouldn’t have won. That they did is because the players wanted it.
Take the way Morné Steyn was sent on to make his international debut. Never mind the fact that Ruan Pienaar was going well how can you send a guy on for his first test with his side pinned on their own line and having to receive his first pass with his feet up against his own dead-ball line? That’s just blind.
The Boks escaped with the first test but I now can’t see them losing the series. I just can’t see the Lions beating South Africa at altitude, provided the coaches have learnt their lessons which is to shore up their defence and deny the Lions front-foot ball.
The Lions looked dangerous when they got ball with centres Brian O’Driscoll and Jamie Roberts shifting well and running good lines but the Springbok defence was all over the place. Jean de Villiers and Adi Jacobs looked vulnerable while Bryan Habana’s propensity to in-tackle disrupts the defensive screen.
The referee, Bryce Lawrence, also seemed to have it in for the Lions at scrum time with the penalties he awarded in this phase providing the Boks with a string of crucial penalties that Ruan Pienaar goaled to give them a cushion of points.
It will be interesting to see whether a Northern Hemisphere referee (Christophe Berdos of France) has a different influence on this aspect of play in the second test at Loftus.
In the end the Boks surprised me because I thought they’d struggle more having not been together for a while. Ruan Pienaar went well at flyhalf and Percy Montgomery’s influence was plain for all to see with their excellent kicking game.
The fact is the Boks could have lost it, but didn’t, and now the Lions have it all to do.
Looking at the other two internationals over the weekend – the Wallabies against Italy and the All Blacks against France – I wasn’t too impressed.
The All Blacks were lucky to square the series and the Wallabies are still searching for the spark. Going on these games South Africa should win the Tri-Nations – it’s theirs to lose. The Wallabies could be a threat but I don’t think much of the All Blacks.
23 Jun 2009, 18:43 pm
Go Emmertjie !!
…but I think the Lions will win becaue the Emmertjie Backline is just tooo ordinary !
23 Jun 2009, 18:45 pm
Wonder wie gaan vanaand se gala wen ?
23 Jun 2009, 18:51 pm
GO BOKKE!!!!!!!!
…
it’s very cold tonight
23 Jun 2009, 18:52 pm
#9 chch: Hello chch, Good to see you back.
Congrats to the AB’s win on Saturday.
23 Jun 2009, 18:53 pm
Duane’s playing! Go DUANE!
And General De Waal and Tiaan… well I’m not sure what his nickname is
23 Jun 2009, 18:55 pm
#17 bdb: Beast die Bul: Verskoon as ek miskien bietjie stadig is, maar hoekom die naam “Beast die Bul”?
23 Jun 2009, 18:56 pm
#20 SpringbokSarah: It’s the Emerging Boks playing, not WP.
23 Jun 2009, 18:57 pm
Go E. Boks.
#18 SpringbokSarah: Here we sitting with t-shirts on….hehehe. Durbs weather in winter is brilliant.
23 Jun 2009, 18:57 pm
#22 Johan: But WP players are playing and being I am a WP supporter, they have my full support
23 Jun 2009, 18:58 pm
Go Bokkkeee!!!! Mo3r die souties….
23 Jun 2009, 18:58 pm
#21 Johan: I think he is supporting Beast because Boks going to play at Loftus this week
23 Jun 2009, 18:59 pm
Dis Leeu koud vanaand.
Net kop en hare!
23 Jun 2009, 18:59 pm
#23 Puma: CT still better
excuse me while I go find a blanket, my calming pills and the remote
23 Jun 2009, 18:59 pm
#26 Puma: Oh! Just thought maybe the Bulls signed him for next year.
23 Jun 2009, 19:01 pm
#24 SpringbokSarah: I’m color blind tonight, no blue, black or red, just GREEN!
23 Jun 2009, 19:01 pm
#15 bdb: Beast die Bul: Whats Campo on about? If it was not for Monye the Boks would have lost? We almost lost because half the team came off just after 55 min. If the 15 that played in the first half stayed on we would have thrashed the Lions.
Ag, who cares what Campo says.
23 Jun 2009, 19:02 pm
#29 Johan: NO, He is staying put at the Sharks
23 Jun 2009, 19:03 pm
Go E. Boks. Think the weather will be in favour of the Lions.
23 Jun 2009, 19:03 pm
#32 Puma: I’ll go buy 10 Bulls jerseys just to finance his transfer to Pretoria. What a player!
23 Jun 2009, 19:04 pm
Go Bokke!
23 Jun 2009, 19:04 pm
#29 Johan: He begged us……..wanted to add a trophy behind his name on his business card.
23 Jun 2009, 19:05 pm
#28 SpringbokSarah: Beauty yes, but weather this time of year its horrible there. Durbs feels like more of a warm summer
23 Jun 2009, 19:05 pm
Come on Zain – plat yourself in to the Bokk eteam and Steyn out…
23 Jun 2009, 19:06 pm
#36 Bul-a-Bhloo: …..before he retires in ten years time……
23 Jun 2009, 19:07 pm
Government wants to abolish SA provinces.
Wonder why? They say service delivery?
Think something more sinister.
23 Jun 2009, 19:08 pm
#15 bdb: Beast die Bul: who is the doos who picked him over shane williams, yes mcgeechan! the genius we’ve been told about for months now!
23 Jun 2009, 19:08 pm
#38 Rugbystud: Zain needs another season at S14(15) level. He is not quite there yet.
Lets see tonight?
23 Jun 2009, 19:09 pm
#34 Johan: He is brilliant. Such a humble a superb person too. We are proud of our Beast. He bought his parents a house here in Durban too. Also heard his brother is in the Sharks academy. So we could have two Beasts
More the better.
23 Jun 2009, 19:09 pm
Dit lyk 6-duim koud op Boolands !
23 Jun 2009, 19:13 pm
Off to watch the rugga now. Back later.
23 Jun 2009, 19:13 pm
#44 grootblousmile: Eish Grote, sekerlik 2″……
23 Jun 2009, 19:20 pm
earl rose charged down again – what does pdv see in him?
23 Jun 2009, 19:20 pm
Rose bfart no.1.
23 Jun 2009, 19:21 pm
Rose 1st touch almost gives a try away
23 Jun 2009, 19:21 pm
#47 fish out of water: and misses a tackle….
23 Jun 2009, 19:22 pm
why isn’t Botes Captain?
23 Jun 2009, 19:24 pm
#40 The-Pill: scary stuff
23 Jun 2009, 19:25 pm
#29 Johan: Johan, soos Puma sê ek ondersteun hom, veral ook na Saterdag se wedstyd dat hy soos ‘n Bul gespeel het. Hopelik doen hy dit saterdag op Loftus weer !
23 Jun 2009, 19:25 pm
#51 goyougoodthing2: Because you cant captain a team from the bench.
My question is what is Deysel doing there? He’s ****. Totally overrated.
23 Jun 2009, 19:27 pm
#54 BlueBlood: ah, that makes sense.
Deysel is great, watch him
23 Jun 2009, 19:27 pm
#54 BlueBlood: Don’t agree I’m afraid…..
23 Jun 2009, 19:28 pm
That was a chance last by the E. Boks. Our Boks for Saturday must take notice of this. We have a French ref for Sat. They seem to ref different to the SH refs.
23 Jun 2009, 19:29 pm
#54 BlueBlood: Rubbish. Deysel is a very, very good players. Just look and maybe you will see.
23 Jun 2009, 19:29 pm
Die ref is kak!! Ek verstaan dat ons tereg gestraf word vir van ons voete afgaan, maar hoekom straf hy nie die Souties as hulle onkant speel nie?
23 Jun 2009, 19:30 pm
O flok… Try Lions… dit was Zane se skuld… oi
23 Jun 2009, 19:30 pm
Maybe snor was right to leave Kirchner out…
23 Jun 2009, 19:30 pm
Lions 10 / 0
23 Jun 2009, 19:30 pm
So long Zane
23 Jun 2009, 19:31 pm
SO…. KIRCHNER SHOULD BE SPRINGBOK SCRUMHALF!
Hope all those Bulls fans eat their words. It seems all Bulls players are not infallible! His first touch and he gives away a try!
23 Jun 2009, 19:31 pm
Can Rose actually run and tackle?
23 Jun 2009, 19:31 pm
rose the TACKLER! fark sake
23 Jun 2009, 19:31 pm
…or even full back!
Suppose you guys would have him anywhere as long as another Bull gets on the field!
23 Jun 2009, 19:32 pm
Damn…now for the E-Boks to get a try!!
23 Jun 2009, 19:32 pm
Is Newman op julle tv ook so pateties?
23 Jun 2009, 19:32 pm
#64 Lancelot: Actually he had to cover Rose’s missed tackle. Do you watch the game often?
23 Jun 2009, 19:33 pm
#64 Lancelot: Scrumhalf??? hehehehe
23 Jun 2009, 19:34 pm
#70 Bul-a-Bhloo:
Ha ha yeah and so I suppose Rose kicked that ball into the Lions hands…. must be someone else’s fault, can’t be a Bull!
23 Jun 2009, 19:34 pm
#59 KingPaul: Ja, KP. Our Boks need to take notice of that. We have a another French Ref on Saturday. Although this one is half Irish I think. The ref different to the SH refs.
#62 grootblousmile: Ag, feel for this E. Bok team. They have not played together really. Just noticed they have the old jersey on? Why could saru not afford to get them the new one? Just a thought.
23 Jun 2009, 19:34 pm
#67 Lancelot:
don’t shoot your load just yet.
the game isn’t over.
23 Jun 2009, 19:34 pm
kick it to touch Earl!!1
23 Jun 2009, 19:35 pm
#71 KingPaul:
Too slow… refer to 67!
Could not wait to get one back on the Bulls-almal-Bokke fan club and in my eagerness made the typo!
23 Jun 2009, 19:35 pm
Amper……
23 Jun 2009, 19:35 pm
#70 Bul-a-Bhloo: Jy raak afgesaag.
23 Jun 2009, 19:36 pm
#74 St.Petersburgbok:
Well, well now that is interesting to hear. Any other player makes a mistake which directly costs the team a try and he will be thrown out to pasture never to play rugby again or perhaps lynched!
23 Jun 2009, 19:36 pm
Hierdie is die tipe game wat De Waal vir jou kan wen….
23 Jun 2009, 19:37 pm
Freegin hel, die weer in Slaapstad is kuk jong !!
Brrrrrrrrrr
23 Jun 2009, 19:39 pm
Die Lions voel tuis daar met die weer. Dink nie die weer kan kakker as wat dit nou is nie..
23 Jun 2009, 19:39 pm
kan iemand ‘n live streaming site aanbeveel?
23 Jun 2009, 19:41 pm
whenever rose touches the ball he does something wrong…
23 Jun 2009, 19:41 pm
#78 K9 the Lion: King of Beasts: Ek dink daardie drie was Spies se skuld … al speel hy nie.
23 Jun 2009, 19:41 pm
#78 K9 the Lion: King of Beasts: Gebruik jou scroll……
23 Jun 2009, 19:43 pm
#83 Windhoek.Lager: justinTV
23 Jun 2009, 19:43 pm
#81 grootblousmile: Nou weet al die capies waarom hul nie ‘n toets gekry het nie, een swemgala is genoeg.
23 Jun 2009, 19:44 pm
#86 Bul-a-Bhloo: Kyk die rugby ipv om heeltyd fout te soek by een ou.
23 Jun 2009, 19:44 pm
#79 Lancelot:
if that was the case the sharks would have no players…
23 Jun 2009, 19:44 pm
Vermaak showing exactly why he shouldn’t be there!
23 Jun 2009, 19:46 pm
#85 bdb: Beast die Bul: Hyt lanklaas gespeel…wanner speel hy weer?
23 Jun 2009, 19:46 pm
#87 grootblousmile: Thanks. Enige spesifieke kanaal? Ek’t Coalhouse & VIP Sports getry, maar die blessit beeld kom nie deur nie …
23 Jun 2009, 19:46 pm
Ek weet nie wat doen Newman op die veld nie. Baie swak skop daai gewees!
23 Jun 2009, 19:46 pm
#89 K9 the Lion: King of Beasts: Begin scroll….
23 Jun 2009, 19:47 pm
#91 Crouching Tiger Hidden Bokke: U MUST be a shark?
23 Jun 2009, 19:47 pm
#54 BlueBlood: Yeah yeah he´s ****. He´s a good player.
23 Jun 2009, 19:47 pm
Verkoop ou Rose vir Newman vir ‘n winskopie.
23 Jun 2009, 19:48 pm
#96 K9 the Lion: King of Beasts: Yes but I’m always someone who knows a kak scrum-half when I see one and Vermaak is one of them!
23 Jun 2009, 19:48 pm
Jassus all this Bok team can do is kick…embarrassing display!
23 Jun 2009, 19:49 pm
#90 gunther:
Yeah, of course you are totally right. It is only Bulls players who never make mistakes. I have always noted in awe how the match stats always show Bulls handling errors 0. Brilliant really!
23 Jun 2009, 19:50 pm
Lostrio speel baie goed, veral Deysel.
23 Jun 2009, 19:50 pm
#92 K9 the Lion: King of Beasts: Kyk rugby sonder om een ou spesifiek te kritiseer… dink dit was jou advies…
Hehehe
23 Jun 2009, 19:50 pm
Vermaak very opff the boil and Newman is looking very shaky
23 Jun 2009, 19:50 pm
Kirchner needs another S14 season. This game proves it.
23 Jun 2009, 19:51 pm
#100 Crouching Tiger Hidden Bokke:
Um, did anyone point out the weather conditions to you?!?!
23 Jun 2009, 19:51 pm
Yeahhhhhh much better
23 Jun 2009, 19:52 pm
#101 Lancelot: By now your hatred towards the Bulls have been noticed by all. Anything else that you are able to post on?
23 Jun 2009, 19:52 pm
Lions 10 / 3
23 Jun 2009, 19:52 pm
#103 grootblousmile: Nee vlok, hy kan my heel aand aanvat no problem, net solank ek in vreugde kan se Rosie is ‘n Dosie…..
Fair is fair?
23 Jun 2009, 19:53 pm
Lekker!!!
23 Jun 2009, 19:54 pm
#92 K9 the Lion: King of Beasts: Jy kan bly wees Tac is nie hier naby nie, anders was jy nou in groot moeilikheid.
#93 Windhoek.Lager: http://www.svpod.com
#99 Crouching Tiger Hidden Bokke: Jano speel goed, moet reserwe wees vir FDP.
23 Jun 2009, 19:55 pm
Get Kirchner off the field asap!
23 Jun 2009, 19:56 pm
Lemoenetyd
23 Jun 2009, 19:56 pm
#113 Crouching Tiger Hidden Bokke: Why? Rose is making him look sh*t…..
23 Jun 2009, 19:58 pm
#115 Bul-a-Bhloo: Kirchner is making Kirchner look sh*t…
23 Jun 2009, 19:59 pm
#43 Puma: Yes. But still think he will look better in a blue jersey!
23 Jun 2009, 19:59 pm
#108 China:
Um, yes I made a comment on the weather just prior to your post! And you may also have noticed that my post you refer to was in direct response to someone. Where I am from it would be regarded as rude to not respond when someone addresses you.
Further to this, it is strange to note that an attempt is made to silence someone when they criticise a Bulls player yet if you read through this blog since the Springbok squad was announced all you are confronted with is one Bulls fan after another stating that every single Bulls player (well that is what is seems like) should be made a Bok! In particular Zane Kirchner, Wynand Olivier etc. So if you guys can dish it out then expect some criticism when that player screws up – which is what Kirchner did!
I have seen plenty people laying into Adrian Jacobs with no specific reference to what he actually did wrong. Besides the fact that he does not have long blonde hair and play for the Bulls!
23 Jun 2009, 19:59 pm
#99 Crouching Tiger Hidden Bokke:
at least he hasn’t slapped anybody yet..
23 Jun 2009, 19:59 pm
#113 Crouching Tiger Hidden Bokke: Ou Adi mag 100 keer misduik en nog steeds vergewe word, hoekom kan jy nie vir Zane vergewe vir een ou blaps nie ?
23 Jun 2009, 19:59 pm
Wat vir my duidelik is, is dat die SA spanne goed kompeteer op die grond… dis waar die Lions wankelrig is..
Kyk nou weer vir Potgieter, Deysel en Vermeulen, wat dit aanbetref teenoor Williams & Co…
… maar nee jong, die Bokke afrigter kies mos nie ‘n fetcher tensy hy geblerrieforseer is nie…
Flok, ek sal teen die Lions met 2 fetchers speel… as dit my keuse was.
23 Jun 2009, 19:59 pm
#116 PosmanJan: Bait, cast, strike, reel…….
23 Jun 2009, 20:00 pm
#51 goyougoodthing2: Potgieter future Bok captain.#53 bdb: Beast die Bul: Stem saam. Saterdsag is hy ‘n Bul.
23 Jun 2009, 20:02 pm
#118 Lancelot: listen you lil knight of he round table…hop on yr hobble horse and ride of into the sunset. Talk rugby if you can…I doubt it though.
23 Jun 2009, 20:02 pm
#64 Lancelot: No words to be eaten here. He will be Bok, mark that down.
23 Jun 2009, 20:02 pm
#116 PosmanJan: Postie, is dit jy ?? Pappa K9 se seuneman ?
23 Jun 2009, 20:04 pm
#117 Johan:
You wish.
23 Jun 2009, 20:05 pm
#121 grootblousmile: Maar ons speel mos met twee fetchers…Scalla en Bismarck. Wat is die fasinasie van jou met fetchers? hehehe, amper sê ek Festers… Tackle die ouens uit die bal uit, of eerste ou tackle die baldraer disnis, tweede ou vat die bal af. Of dit nou die haker, flank of senter is. So ‘n ander d@@s wat so tyd terug die Bokke afgerig het het geglo al 15ouens moet die fetcher rol kan vervul.
23 Jun 2009, 20:06 pm
#99 Crouching Tiger Hidden Bokke: Rubbish!#100 Crouching Tiger Hidden Bokke: Rubbish you!#113 Crouching Tiger Hidden Bokke: You are rubbish.
23 Jun 2009, 20:06 pm
#117 Johan: Dink hy sal mooi lyk in ‘n Bulls trui, en hy praat ook al soos een.
23 Jun 2009, 20:06 pm
#118 Lancelot: Those frustrations are really shining through.
Those, my team haven`t won anything for 8 years now and i am so jealous of those team who have won 2 S14 competitions in 3 years now?
Oh how unfair life can be….
23 Jun 2009, 20:06 pm
Nou vir die tweede helfde. Bokke om met 6 punte te wen!!
23 Jun 2009, 20:06 pm
#127 Puma: I can dream.
23 Jun 2009, 20:07 pm
#126 grootblousmile: Haha dit is eke. Ek is bly om te sien dat Keo nog steets dieselfde is…
23 Jun 2009, 20:08 pm
Terug rugby toe. Go Bokke!
23 Jun 2009, 20:08 pm
#128 KingPaul: Daar gaan jy weer met jou Schalla-liefde…
Schalla issie ‘n fetcher nie man… baie ander goeie kwaliteite, harde werksverrigting… maar geen fetcher nie… heellaas !
23 Jun 2009, 20:09 pm
#133 Johan: Well he will play at Loftus this Saturday. See it going to be freezing there. Well night time probably during the day too. May suit the Lions. The weather in Cape Town is dreadful tonight. Pleased we don’t get that weather here. Pity though for the Rugby there.
These E. Boks just have not had enough game time together. They could be a good side if they do get some.
23 Jun 2009, 20:09 pm
#134 PosmanJan: Posman Patatta !!
**** ons gaan almal saam Roftus toe Saterdag…
23 Jun 2009, 20:09 pm
#124 China:
Damn, you construct such a good argument I cannot possibly compete with an entire Asian nation.
But please educate me quick… can you please tell me what event led to the Lions scoring their try. In my limited rugby knowledge it seemed to be one specific error but I cannot be sure.
I would also like a definition of “talk rugby”. My assumption was a discussion about players who play rugby would meet this definition but clearly not.
Thank you.
23 Jun 2009, 20:10 pm
#137 Puma: Agree. If they had a warm-up game, we could have beaten them. We still might, hope so.
23 Jun 2009, 20:11 pm
#132 KingPaul: Yip, Lets be positive.
23 Jun 2009, 20:11 pm
Dewalt Potgieter is ‘n harde, eerlike werker
23 Jun 2009, 20:11 pm
#138 grootblousmile: Ja kan nie wag nie. Daar gaan die Springbokke daardie pap leeus wys hoe om rugby te speel. Ek sien uit na saterdag daar by Loftus
23 Jun 2009, 20:12 pm
#131 The-Pill:
Hmm, ok I really have no rugby knowledge… I was under the impression that the Sharks were the holders of the Currie Cup? I’ll just keep quiet now
23 Jun 2009, 20:14 pm
#142 grootblousmile: Soos k9
23 Jun 2009, 20:14 pm
POTGIETER!!!!
23 Jun 2009, 20:14 pm
#139 Lancelot: Get lost. Read your gibberish tomm when the pills have worn off.
23 Jun 2009, 20:14 pm
Very well done by Potgieter…
23 Jun 2009, 20:14 pm
#142 grootblousmile: Fantastiese speler.
23 Jun 2009, 20:14 pm
#144 Lancelot: Wow!!!!
23 Jun 2009, 20:15 pm
#144 Lancelot: So make that 12 years then. My bad
23 Jun 2009, 20:16 pm
Kom Emmertjies… nou vir die drie
23 Jun 2009, 20:16 pm
#139 Lancelot: You talk so much k@k! Whazzup?
23 Jun 2009, 20:17 pm
#147 China:
Ha ha ha why shoot your mouth off if you are not willing to respond?
#150 Bul-a-Bhloo:
Hey, well I had to check as someone (The Pill) informed me that the Sharks have won nothing!
23 Jun 2009, 20:18 pm
Lyk my daar is ook ‘n Lancelot op die veld wat heeltyd ‘n ‘fight’ soek vanaand ?
23 Jun 2009, 20:18 pm
#154 Lancelot: Did i say anything about the Sharks?
23 Jun 2009, 20:18 pm
Whats the matter with that Nathan Hines? Jeez he is a bit of a hot head at the moment.
23 Jun 2009, 20:18 pm
Lions 10 / 6
23 Jun 2009, 20:19 pm
#151 The-Pill:
Um, current champions, as in 2008… as in less than one year!
#153 Johan:
Sorry but someone has to provide a reasonable voice to counter all the Bulls fans who spew forth rubbish on here! But if you would be so kind as to point out what exactly I said that was k@k I’ll be sure to tell you what is up?
23 Jun 2009, 20:20 pm
#154 Lancelot: Sure. I have great respect for the Sharks.
I just don’t like…..just don’t like…..just don’t like, damn my courage has failed me!
23 Jun 2009, 20:20 pm
#155 bdb: Beast die Bul: Die ou is frustrated. Ons verstaan.
23 Jun 2009, 20:20 pm
#155 bdb: Beast die Bul: Los nou maar vir Dance-a-lot, ek willie julle kakas lees nie !
23 Jun 2009, 20:22 pm
#159 Lancelot: So another 12 years then?
23 Jun 2009, 20:23 pm
#162 grootblousmile:
Sorry, I’ll be sure to rejoin this blog and change my name to something with Bull, Blou, or Bul in it as it seems then I can say anything I want about players.
23 Jun 2009, 20:24 pm
#163 The-Pill:
What are you on about 12 years for?
23 Jun 2009, 20:26 pm
#162 grootblousmile: Toemaar, ek sal hierdie rondte instaand, jy kan weer ‘n volgende keer.
23 Jun 2009, 20:26 pm
#164 Lancelot: Kyk rugby asseblief, ek willie julle Bollie en Krabbel kuk lees nie… toe man !
23 Jun 2009, 20:27 pm
Terrible weather there now. Really pleased the Boks don’t have a test there this time. Weather can spoil the game when its like that.
23 Jun 2009, 20:27 pm
#164 Lancelot: Let it go…
23 Jun 2009, 20:28 pm
jeez, is there actually a game on or is it just an excuse for a slag fest?
23 Jun 2009, 20:28 pm
#165 Lancelot: What?
Should i spell it out for you?
Firstly my post was referring to WP supporters. Why? That is how you sound. I didn`t know or care what team you support.
Secondly the Sharks won nothing for 12 years.
Do you understand?
23 Jun 2009, 20:29 pm
I may be a newbie – and blonde – but could someone tell me the rules on scrums and why the lions are constantly doing a completely screw throw in?
23 Jun 2009, 20:29 pm
and is it just me or is this ref stupid?
23 Jun 2009, 20:30 pm
#164 Lancelot: Jy is kinderagtig(you are childish).
23 Jun 2009, 20:30 pm
#172 Fleabag: Welcome Newbie !
23 Jun 2009, 20:31 pm
I see Rose has been watching the Confed-Cup allot, with that rugby-soccer kick. hehe
23 Jun 2009, 20:31 pm
#173 Fleabag: Most refs seems stupid.
23 Jun 2009, 20:32 pm
Lions raak vuil! Bly Hines is af, wat ‘n clown.
23 Jun 2009, 20:32 pm
okay should I ask then just biased?
23 Jun 2009, 20:32 pm
#176 PosmanJan: LOL.
23 Jun 2009, 20:32 pm
Duane, Deysel en Potgieter speel baie goed.
23 Jun 2009, 20:33 pm
Ag my jinne Rose… neewat, laat Wielie Waalie skop !
23 Jun 2009, 20:33 pm
Rose MOET Bokke speel! Wat ‘n speler!
23 Jun 2009, 20:33 pm
Nou vir f@kken wat laat hulle nie vir DeWaal skop nie? Dit was nou stupid!!
23 Jun 2009, 20:33 pm
Pity about that missed kick by Rose, but it is tough out there in that weather.
23 Jun 2009, 20:33 pm
#172 Fleabag: There are 1 zillion interpretations on scrummaging rules – multiplied by 8 rugby nation referee interpretations – multiplied by 10 …
23 Jun 2009, 20:34 pm
#181 bdb: Beast die Bul: Stem saam. Se dit vir Lancelot en verduidelik dat net 1 van daaiu 3 Bul is. Miskien verstaan hy dan.
23 Jun 2009, 20:34 pm
has bobbie skinstad had a large concussion recently??
his commentating is bloody awful.
during the game against the kings he kept saying south-ern kings
now its a bot (boot), earl ross
23 Jun 2009, 20:34 pm
Kom Bokke!
23 Jun 2009, 20:35 pm
Why didn’t Willem De Waal kick that one?
Sky commentators saying the SA selectors now know a little bit more about Rose – in other words that he can’t handle pressure.
Err, they don’t know that Snorrie was the milkman at the Rose household.
23 Jun 2009, 20:35 pm
#176 PosmanJan: Jou Pa gaan jou mo*r……
My reeds bygekom!
23 Jun 2009, 20:35 pm
Rose is realllly not good enough. He has a lot of heart, but unfortunately no… sorry Earl
23 Jun 2009, 20:35 pm
#185 Puma: True. He’s not playing to bad. The weather is terrible.
23 Jun 2009, 20:35 pm
okay 4 replacements on the try line?
23 Jun 2009, 20:35 pm
#171 The-Pill:
Let me say it slowly for your benefit then too….
Firstly, you really should learn to not make assumptions about a person’s allegiance as it may eventually make you look silly. I am a Sharks supporter.
Secondly, the Sharks are reigning Currie Cup champions. Now that may be “nothing” in your eyes but for a lot of people it is a coveted trophy to have!
You would think people on here would know their rugby!
#174 Johan:
Ha ha ha sorry Dad
23 Jun 2009, 20:35 pm
HEINIE! jOU BUL! Ooops, sorry Lancelot.
23 Jun 2009, 20:36 pm
#181 bdb: Beast die Bul: Yes all 3 of them. Potgieter is impressive.
23 Jun 2009, 20:36 pm
#188 fish out of water: No concussion, just that TONGUE that keeps getting in the way.
23 Jun 2009, 20:36 pm
#195 Lancelot: OK, dont let it happen again.
23 Jun 2009, 20:37 pm
#197 Puma: Good combination.
23 Jun 2009, 20:37 pm
65min in…
Tiger Woods is rubbish at rugby
23 Jun 2009, 20:37 pm
Shades of last Saturday??
4 subs on at once… and nogal near the Try Line…
Oi veiiiiiiii !!
23 Jun 2009, 20:37 pm
#193 PosmanJan: Yip, Hi have not seen you here for a long time. Your are K9′s son I think?
23 Jun 2009, 20:38 pm
#195 Lancelot: Deysel is having a great game. How many brownie points do I get?
23 Jun 2009, 20:38 pm
Now now, everyone, give Rose a break. You know the mechanic story.
23 Jun 2009, 20:38 pm
#201 Oxy moron: LOL!
23 Jun 2009, 20:38 pm
ah bugger
23 Jun 2009, 20:38 pm
Ons verloor ongelukkig die skopstryd.
23 Jun 2009, 20:38 pm
#202 grootblousmile: **** Muir is being a **** again with these subs.
23 Jun 2009, 20:38 pm
Hoekom is ons vleuels NOOIT in posisie as hulle deurskop nie?
23 Jun 2009, 20:39 pm
#203 Puma: Yeah..busy with the studies. Yes I am…
23 Jun 2009, 20:39 pm
#195 Lancelot: Whateva dude!
Bulls S14 champs x2!
And countless CC trophies!
Again. I understand your frustration. Ok maybe not. Bulls supporters dont have any CHOKING experience!
Now chew on that. I am done with you. Good bye and good riddance.
23 Jun 2009, 20:39 pm
Mockery comes on at prop for the Lions
23 Jun 2009, 20:39 pm
#202 grootblousmile: Tell you what think those replacements last week was Muir’s move. My feeling and PdV took the rap for it. Muir done that to the Sharks all of last year in the S14. Daft I think. Especially since the guys have not played much together. Why change them now. Let them play it out.
23 Jun 2009, 20:39 pm
Rose moet nou af, regtig! Black Mechanick or not!
23 Jun 2009, 20:39 pm
#198 The-Pill: earl wose…
23 Jun 2009, 20:39 pm
#191 Bul-a-Bhloo: Hom klaar gem*er hehe
23 Jun 2009, 20:40 pm
#209 wooden spoon: Suck my **** MUIR>
23 Jun 2009, 20:40 pm
Nou daai was ‘n k@k skop!! aiaiaiaiaiaia
KOM EMMERS!!
23 Jun 2009, 20:40 pm
Fark Adams daai great turnover op!!!!! Waars Jano???? Asb!!!!
23 Jun 2009, 20:40 pm
#196 Johan:
Did he just kick that perfect attacking ball straight into touch?!? hee hee
23 Jun 2009, 20:40 pm
#214 Puma: I think sometimes coaches replace players just for the sake of replacing them.
23 Jun 2009, 20:40 pm
are we scared of holding a ball? why do we kick like idiots?
23 Jun 2009, 20:41 pm
#215 Johan: Nee man, Rose is moerse goed met ‘n bobbejaanspanner…
23 Jun 2009, 20:41 pm
Ag, Adams. Why did Muir take off Vermaak. Daft. Maybe wants to give everyone a game here. Who knows.
23 Jun 2009, 20:41 pm
#217 K9 the Lion: King of Beasts: Dis hoekom ek so stadig tik…vingers werk nie meer so lekker saam nie. hehe
23 Jun 2009, 20:41 pm
#221 Lancelot: Yes he did, but if he was a Shark, you would have conveniently missed it right?
23 Jun 2009, 20:42 pm
Botes on!
23 Jun 2009, 20:42 pm
I’d take Adams over Vermaak any day!
23 Jun 2009, 20:42 pm
#215 Johan: Hy kan nie. de Waal kan net skop.
23 Jun 2009, 20:42 pm
#224 KingPaul:
23 Jun 2009, 20:42 pm
#222 Johan: Its so stupid. Thought this team was finally starting to gel. Then like Saturday on come the replacements!!
23 Jun 2009, 20:43 pm
#225 Puma: So glad Muir no longer coaches the Sharks!
23 Jun 2009, 20:43 pm
Daai Shane Williams lyk lekekr k@k met sy kaal kop…
23 Jun 2009, 20:43 pm
Hulle skop nou heeltemal te veel. As jy skop, skop slim, vra vir Naas hoe.
23 Jun 2009, 20:43 pm
#224 KingPaul: idiot…
23 Jun 2009, 20:44 pm
Arme Rose. Selfs die kommentators kry hom nou jammer.
23 Jun 2009, 20:44 pm
#223 Fleabag: They think that one game plan will work across the board, regardless of conditions.
23 Jun 2009, 20:44 pm
#212 The-Pill:
Ha ha ha sad. You have you say and then sign it by saying I’m done! ha ha
#214 Puma:
You really do not know much about the Sharks do you? Yet you have a lot to say about them! Muir was not coaching the Sharks last year! Plumtree was already. Sad, sad, sad you are…
23 Jun 2009, 20:44 pm
Has the IRB now made it a rule that you HAVE to use all your subs? I must have missed that new experimental law.
23 Jun 2009, 20:44 pm
stupid choices
23 Jun 2009, 20:44 pm
#235 bdb: Beast die Bul: Nou bring jy alweer ‘n Bul in! Jy gaan Lancelot ammunisie gee!
23 Jun 2009, 20:45 pm
Why did De Waal kick away the perfect ball?!! Jassus its not football!!!!
23 Jun 2009, 20:45 pm
Sorry Puma, the comment still applies but I mistook you for someone else with the comment about having a lot to say about them in post number 239
23 Jun 2009, 20:46 pm
#239 Lancelot: I think Puma knows much about the Sharks and SA rugby.
23 Jun 2009, 20:46 pm
Gee almal ‘n kans om te speel, dit is hoekom al die reserwes opkom.
23 Jun 2009, 20:46 pm
Domass nou ook opdie veld…
23 Jun 2009, 20:46 pm
Oeeeeee flok, Dumbass is op… game over… tilt !!
Ping pong, ping pong !
Reset !
23 Jun 2009, 20:47 pm
Wie is die loskop stut van OB ?
23 Jun 2009, 20:47 pm
#232 Puma: Its looking more and more likely its gonna be 1-1 come 5pm on Saturday…
23 Jun 2009, 20:47 pm
Nou klink die ref nes my f@kken wiskunde onnie…
23 Jun 2009, 20:47 pm
#239 Lancelot: Making a fool of yourself. Puma is a great Sharks supporter.
23 Jun 2009, 20:48 pm
why did he kick that , we had the overlap????
23 Jun 2009, 20:48 pm
Soos ek gesê het, ons verloor die skopwedstryd, en, jy kan nie ‘n drie druk sonder die bal nie.
23 Jun 2009, 20:49 pm
#245 Johan:
Well he may but as far as I am aware this statement is incorrect : “Muir done that to the Sharks all of last year in the S14″
23 Jun 2009, 20:49 pm
#245 Johan: Die ou is duidelik gerook.
23 Jun 2009, 20:49 pm
stupid kicking!! I actually cant stop being annoyed – I mean come on!! learn something you asses!
23 Jun 2009, 20:49 pm
#249 bdb: Beast die Bul: Think Pat Cilliers just came on.
23 Jun 2009, 20:49 pm
Kan nie glo hulle try alweer vir GadgetBoy op heelagter nie!
Daar’s dit nou, tickets!!1
Mooi getry, kom ons kyk of die grootmanne dit die naweek 2-0 kan maak…
23 Jun 2009, 20:50 pm
Lancelot – wind your neck in and stop being a t*at, before you start alienating the Sharks fans here.
23 Jun 2009, 20:50 pm
Lions 13 / 6
23 Jun 2009, 20:50 pm
#251 KingPaul: Vat jy nog wiskunde!
23 Jun 2009, 20:51 pm
#253 Oxy moron: That’s all our tactics have been – kick, kick, kick! Really amatuerish! How is it that the E Boks have hardly trained when they had weeks and weeks before this game?!
23 Jun 2009, 20:51 pm
13 – 6 …. interesting
23 Jun 2009, 20:51 pm
#259 KingPaul: Ja, laat hul die veldslaggies wen, ons wen die oorlog.
23 Jun 2009, 20:51 pm
#252 Bul-a-Bhloo: #256 The-Pill: #260 wooden spoon:
Please one of you tell me who coached the Sharks last year?
23 Jun 2009, 20:51 pm
#198 The-Pill: i shouldn’t complain too much it could be owen nkumane commentating
23 Jun 2009, 20:51 pm
Pathetic, E Boks couldn’t even score a try!!
23 Jun 2009, 20:51 pm
not!! stupid supersport!!
23 Jun 2009, 20:52 pm
#266 Lancelot: in the S14 or CC?
23 Jun 2009, 20:52 pm
Nou Bokke!
23 Jun 2009, 20:52 pm
Come on boks. Last chance…
23 Jun 2009, 20:53 pm
come on boys come on!!
23 Jun 2009, 20:53 pm
Yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Trytime!!!
23 Jun 2009, 20:53 pm
#263 Crouching Tiger Hidden Bokke: Been together for a week.#268 Crouching Tiger Hidden Bokke: Sorry? What was that?
23 Jun 2009, 20:53 pm
brilliant!!!
23 Jun 2009, 20:53 pm
Skop oor asssssssssssb!!
23 Jun 2009, 20:53 pm
#268 Crouching Tiger Hidden Bokke:
YES THEY CAN! Whoohooo
23 Jun 2009, 20:53 pm
#260 wooden spoon: Pity. Most Sharks fans on here has been pretty sportsmanlike the last couple of weeks.
Just go to show. You get idiot supporters from every province.
Luckily they are the minority. Not so sure about the WP supporters though.
23 Jun 2009, 20:54 pm
Try Dumbass… mooi pass Waalie !
23 Jun 2009, 20:54 pm
Genl de Waal vir pale toe !
23 Jun 2009, 20:54 pm
Willem moet skop!
23 Jun 2009, 20:54 pm
kick it de waal
23 Jun 2009, 20:54 pm
Danwell you beauty!
23 Jun 2009, 20:54 pm
F@k!! Demass!! Jou doring!1
Kan nie glo ou Bob vertel nou hier hoe goed Rose was met die boot nie!! My f@k, as hy een van daai twee skoppe oorgesit het het ons nou voorgeloop, voor die vervyfskop!!
23 Jun 2009, 20:55 pm
#268 Crouching Tiger Hidden Bokke: Lekker k@k gepraat ne!
23 Jun 2009, 20:55 pm
WHoooooooooooooo hoooooooooooooo.
23 Jun 2009, 20:55 pm
Why isn’t Rose taking this one?
23 Jun 2009, 20:55 pm
Gelykop !!
Heeeeeeee haaaaaaa
Lekker man !
23 Jun 2009, 20:55 pm
#268 Crouching Tiger Hidden Bokke: Pathetic my man!
23 Jun 2009, 20:55 pm
#288 wooden spoon: that’s why!
23 Jun 2009, 20:55 pm
#279 The-Pill:
Ha ha ha I thought you’d gone into your corner!
Nice one Emerging Boks!
23 Jun 2009, 20:55 pm
Yeaaaahhhhhhh welll done Bokke!!!!! Take that Lions.
23 Jun 2009, 20:56 pm
Klap in die gesig vir Rose.
23 Jun 2009, 20:56 pm
Now that was some kick.
23 Jun 2009, 20:56 pm
Good kick. Good on the emergers.
23 Jun 2009, 20:57 pm
BRILLIANT……….JUST AWESOME. Well done E. Boks. That was superbe in the end.
23 Jun 2009, 20:57 pm
#297 Puma: superbe = superb
23 Jun 2009, 20:57 pm
Potgieter goeie kaptein.
23 Jun 2009, 20:57 pm
2nd test at Loftus bound to be a thriller!
23 Jun 2009, 20:57 pm
Well done wil, great kick.
Well done Bokkies!!!
23 Jun 2009, 20:57 pm
Psychological blow number 2. Saturday is backs against the wall for these boys. Demas is shaping up to be a reasonably decent player.
23 Jun 2009, 20:58 pm
Well that is me. Cheers and “I’ll be back”. over and out
23 Jun 2009, 20:58 pm
Rose would never be able to make a kick like that!
23 Jun 2009, 20:58 pm
#268 Crouching Tiger Hidden Bokke: who is the doos now! Negative tw@t!
23 Jun 2009, 20:58 pm
what if de waal had taken the earlier kicks?
23 Jun 2009, 20:58 pm
#288 wooden spoon: ….was that rhetorical?(that was)
23 Jun 2009, 20:58 pm
#297 Puma: Fantastico!
23 Jun 2009, 20:58 pm
Congrats E Boks.
23 Jun 2009, 20:59 pm
#304 Crouching Tiger Hidden Bokke: Stop talking now, no one will take you seriously after THAT brainf@rt!
23 Jun 2009, 20:59 pm
#306 Fleabag: we would have won. but its just nice to play the game sometimes.
im joking of course.
23 Jun 2009, 20:59 pm
#285 KingPaul: Could have been. Just so damn pleased it ended in a draw and not a win to them. Awesome.
Now Go Bokke for Saturday.
23 Jun 2009, 20:59 pm
Well done e-Boks! Not one test cap between them.
23 Jun 2009, 21:00 pm
#302 Slumtown: Demas just need to sort his ball handling skills.
He could be better than most.
23 Jun 2009, 21:00 pm
Congrats to E.boks, nice move at the end.
De Waal’s kick didn’t go over (as the SA commentators said themselves)
Call it sour grapes if you must
23 Jun 2009, 21:00 pm
Over and Out.
23 Jun 2009, 21:00 pm
IF **** hadnt used this game as a trial match the Boys would’ve won by 10.
GOOD RESULT, NO INTERNATIONAL CAPS for these boys, only 5 days together and they DRAW with a Lions team. 4 Countries cant beat our C TEAM, HOLEY FK THESE GUYS ARE IN FOR IT AT LOFTUS.
23 Jun 2009, 21:00 pm
So, who were the outstanding players for the Emmers ?
Potgieter
Vermeulen
Jano
23 Jun 2009, 21:00 pm
#275 Johan: Potgieter said they only trained as a team a week before this match? What’ve they been doing all this time is what I’m saying!
23 Jun 2009, 21:01 pm
Ek het dit vroeer al gesê, DeWaal is die ou wat die game kon wen vir ons. Net jammer hulle het hom nie genoeg kans gegee nie.
23 Jun 2009, 21:01 pm
Mooi manne.
Moeilike toestande.
23 Jun 2009, 21:02 pm
#318 grootblousmile: Not Jano, I would take Adams over Vermaak.
23 Jun 2009, 21:02 pm
yeah but I would love to just win with conviction once! Pus I would have loved to have nailed PDV team to prove he is an idiot
23 Jun 2009, 21:02 pm
#304 Crouching Tiger Hidden Bokke: who cares de waal can!! You’re such a plonker! Go to bed boet ha ha ha what an@ss, can you believe this guy?
23 Jun 2009, 21:02 pm
#318 grootblousmile: DEYSAL HAD A BLINDER, HIGHLIGHT RUNNING OVER O’GARA.
23 Jun 2009, 21:02 pm
#318 grootblousmile: Mako ook baie goed gespeel. En daai een vleul nie te bad nie.
23 Jun 2009, 21:02 pm
#315 Big Hit: It did go over I saw the flags go up.
23 Jun 2009, 21:04 pm
#327 Crouching Tiger Hidden Bokke: I saw the replay
23 Jun 2009, 21:04 pm
Look, if Willem de Waal makes you look k*k, you must be k*k. Maar PdV dink seker Earl was man of the match…lekker manne. breek hierdie bliks*ms se vertroue verder. Gaan hulle verkrag op loftus
23 Jun 2009, 21:04 pm
#324 Transformation: Shhhht bro – cool it – just talk rugga!
23 Jun 2009, 21:04 pm
#324 Transformation: What’s your problem man? Seriously! Did you think that was good performance by Rose?! What a chop you are!
23 Jun 2009, 21:05 pm
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WELL DONE BOKKETJIES!!
i am a happy rangerman.
23 Jun 2009, 21:05 pm
Earl Rose wasn’t bad at all. Great kick into the corner at the end, basically got the draw.
23 Jun 2009, 21:05 pm
Rose moet sommer more aansoek doen vir ‘n opknapingskursus by Westlake. Mechanic is dalk nie sy beste keuse nie, miskien moet hy fitter & turner gaan try..
23 Jun 2009, 21:06 pm
Deysel MOM
23 Jun 2009, 21:06 pm
#328 Big Hit: So you claiming now that it was given for the sake of the Boks? Whatever man, sour grapes. There’s no way the Lions would’ve accepted that.
23 Jun 2009, 21:06 pm
#328 Big Hit: huh?
the ball was over right?
or are you saying we saffas cheated?
23 Jun 2009, 21:07 pm
#334 KingPaul: Wat van Drug kingpin?
23 Jun 2009, 21:08 pm
#334 Big Hit: wow my hero.
23 Jun 2009, 21:08 pm
#320 KingPaul: De Waal en Bolla vir die bokke? hehe
23 Jun 2009, 21:08 pm
Deysel, as MOTM. Behalwe hy, gaan die volgende ouens na my mening nog vir die Bokke speel:
- Werner
- lostrio
- Jano
- Zane
23 Jun 2009, 21:08 pm
#319 Crouching Tiger Hidden Bokke: Muir said that.
23 Jun 2009, 21:08 pm
#337 rangerman: not at all Ranger, there was a Welshman under those posts judging the kick and he put his flag up
23 Jun 2009, 21:09 pm
#341 bdb: Beast die Bul: Steenkamp and Sykes.
23 Jun 2009, 21:10 pm
I only managed to see the last 10 minutes.
Who played well?
Most importantly Kruger & Zane.
But also Dewald Potgieter, Dwayne Vermulene, Deysel? Rose (nice touch kick in last minute – pin-point).
23 Jun 2009, 21:10 pm
i retract my previous harsher comments about earl rose but the lad played very well today .kicked passed and aside from the one or two blunders he had a blinder of a game
23 Jun 2009, 21:10 pm
if willem de waal had put ANOTHER up and under instead of sending it wide to demas, i would have no tv now.
but he didnt.
he passed, my tv is safe and i cracked another hansa to celebrate
23 Jun 2009, 21:10 pm
As de Waal van die begin af gespeel het, sou ons lekker ver gewen het.
23 Jun 2009, 21:10 pm
Wilhelm Steenkamp en Sykes het ook goed gespeel
23 Jun 2009, 21:11 pm
#342 Johan: Goes to show how organised Muir is.
23 Jun 2009, 21:11 pm
Steenkamp and Sykes future Bok locks.
23 Jun 2009, 21:11 pm
Thought I would just add my two cents worth for anybody who is ever interested in my views. I thought Vermaak was good, Deysel if he can raise his handling skills a notch could be devastating and I liked Hennie Adams, he approached today with a mongrel attitude, he was a little live wire. Skyes was good and the E Boks did well considering the limited time they had to prepare.
I watched Earl Rose with an open mind today, determined to judge on nothing other than rugby ability and what I saw was a player who was not good enough for the level that he was playing at. His dropped goal attempt was shocking, his miss at the posts when the rain had stopped was poor and his willingness to take the ball into contact without passing resulted in a number of turnovers that were a direct result of his poor decision making. He has good hands but he is doing nothing special. I do not see what PdV sees in him he was outplayed by O’Gara and Hook. I wonder if he wouldve thrown that pass that Dewaal threw for Demas to cross? Somehow I doubt it he doesn’t seem to have the vision. His defence was ordinary and he failed to create chances on attack. If this sounds like too much critisism of one player then he’s going to have to learn to live with that until he rips defences apart single handedly. PdV has made him out as a God and until he starts showing some serious class he’s going to be judged more harshly than most.
23 Jun 2009, 21:11 pm
Credit to the E.Boks, they deserved the draw and possibly more. Deysel a standout and De Waal has had two great contributions against the Lions (incl. the WP game)
23 Jun 2009, 21:12 pm
#347 rangerman: Nou kan jy saterdag darem die toets kyk, en hoef nie radio te luister nie.
23 Jun 2009, 21:12 pm
#343 Big Hit: so…….it was over?
just saw it again. over!
*** me hows that hillbilly behind bobby?
23 Jun 2009, 21:13 pm
#346 mbaxman93: did you watch the same game? at best he just existed.
23 Jun 2009, 21:14 pm
#355 rangerman: He’s not a hillbilly… he’s a Bill Hilly !
Hahaha
23 Jun 2009, 21:14 pm
#350 Crouching Tiger Hidden Bokke: Did I say he was organised? I said the team only had a week to prepare, reason for that is unknown to me. Point is they played well despite the short preparation time.
23 Jun 2009, 21:15 pm
just for the record i still dont like earl rose too much
23 Jun 2009, 21:15 pm
#331 Crouching Tiger Hidden Bokke: did you see deysel, did you see potgieter, did you see morgan newman, did you see the potential on bjorn basson? No you didn’t because you were watching rose so that you can nail him, and you call yourself a patriot, you’re pathetic man…ffs
Can you see **** muir is smiling, the newlands fans that braved the hail & gales are cheering, you’re the only doos being negative! Ha ha ha
23 Jun 2009, 21:15 pm
#354 bdb: Beast die Bul: gelukkig ja.
ag rsg is nie te sleg nie.
23 Jun 2009, 21:15 pm
#340 K9 the Lion: King of Beasts: Bolla is beter as Mechanic Ricky!! En langer as Luke!! hehehe. Daai tjom van jou is nie ‘n heelagter se gat nie!! Skaflike losskakel as die son skyn. Hoekom het hulle hom nie eerder 12 toe geskuif met deWaal op 10 en Zane agter gelos nie?
23 Jun 2009, 21:16 pm
#352 Thameside Bok fan: Agree.
23 Jun 2009, 21:17 pm
#357 grootblousmile:
did you see him?
i swear i heard a banjo……..
23 Jun 2009, 21:17 pm
Well done to Deysel on mom. Juan Smith better take note.
I see Vermuelen, Deysel and Potgieter all knocking ont the Springbok door. All were impressive tonight.
23 Jun 2009, 21:17 pm
#362 KingPaul: Speel Bolla nog rugby?
23 Jun 2009, 21:18 pm
#364 rangerman: Deysel looked so pleased getting that mom. Felt really good for him. Always puts in 100%
23 Jun 2009, 21:19 pm
#364 rangerman: Hehehe, yes I saw him….
What was that Bill Hilly movie… Deliverance…
Deliverance Special !
23 Jun 2009, 21:19 pm
#363 Johan:
I think anybody who watched that game will agree. On the basis of that form Rose would struggle to start behind Dewaal and lets be honest he’s not exactly known as a FH(!) Rose was imply not good enough its as simple as that. He should have at the very least slotted his second kick at goal.
23 Jun 2009, 21:19 pm
#366 Johan: Jong, ek is seker hy draf nog hier erens rond.
23 Jun 2009, 21:20 pm
That was a 4th Test. 1-0 to the Boks.
23 Jun 2009, 21:20 pm
#367 Puma:
100? That oke was leaving everything out there, heart, mind and soul. Good on him for MOM. He relishes the contact and everytime he got the ball he made the yards. If he can improve his handling skills he will go far!
23 Jun 2009, 21:21 pm
#358 Johan: They played very well in the short time they had to train together. Also playing in the HAIL!!!!!! For all that the E. Boks were really good tonight. Felt really great when Demas went over and De waal got the conversion.
23 Jun 2009, 21:21 pm
#362 KingPaul: Die nat kaapse weer was ideaal vir genl de Waal om die wedstryd te dikteer, met Rose op senter om almal, ook sy eie span, aan die raai te hou …
23 Jun 2009, 21:23 pm
Willem de Waal is a legend that was a fkn tough kick. Well done to E.Boks!!!
23 Jun 2009, 21:24 pm
#369 Thameside Bok fan: To me a Bok is a role model.
Ability is foremost. But getting caught with drugs and beating your wife should disqualify you immediately.
23 Jun 2009, 21:24 pm
E-Boks loosetrio simply outstanding.
Potgieter and Deysel huge.
Deysel should be on the bench on sat as an impact player for final 20 mins to replace juan. very explosive player.
Kruger very big in tightloose and clearing out.
Robbie Earls was outstanding tonight too.
23 Jun 2009, 21:24 pm
#372 Thameside Bok fan: He will. He gets better all the time. Never seen him so happy. He really looked pleased with his mom award. Well done to Deysel. He deserved it.
I too like Vermuelen, Potgieter both are playing some very fine rugby as well.
Potgieter also impressed me as captain. Maybe a Bok captain for the future? Who knows but he handled the team and ref very well. Speaks well too.
23 Jun 2009, 21:25 pm
#377 cab: Spot on. I felt the same. They were superb.
23 Jun 2009, 21:26 pm
Well done E Boks. I did not think you had it in you. Maybe the weather helped?? De Waal saved that game. Great cut out pass to create the try and then the kick. Well done Boet. Enjoy your moment.
23 Jun 2009, 21:26 pm
#377 cab: Cab I and many here have been saying Deysel should have been selected for the Boks this time round. He would really have made a difference coming off the bench. Never mind his time will come. It will I have no doubt.
23 Jun 2009, 21:26 pm
#360 Transformation: Yes I did see Deysel and Potgieter making a case for themselves. Wasn’t that impressed with Newman, though Basson has potential but thought Rose was fairly sub-standard. He’s nowhere near the level PdV makes him out to be.
Now listen to me you little prck, I’m entitled to state my opinion and if you don’t like it then don’t read my posts! You come on here and start insulting me left, right and centre for no reason at all. Small mans syndrome perhaps? Massive chip on your shoulder because your darling rose didn’t live up to expectations!
So tell me are you satisfied with Muir as a coach knowing that he possibly had played a big part in the fiasco at Kings Park or were satisfied with the Boks performance because your vision is blinded by PdV’s smoke and mirrors and your tiny mind is confused by all his little riddles?! Call yourself a rugby fan? You really are pathetic!
23 Jun 2009, 21:28 pm
#378 Puma: Potgieter reminds me of Schalk in many ways. He’s also like a junior Schalk! Perhaps a shoe-in for the next RWC?…
23 Jun 2009, 21:28 pm
#367 Puma: me too puma! he played a cracker.
#368 grootblousmile: lol, deliverance. watch yer back bobby!
23 Jun 2009, 21:28 pm
Excellent effort from all the forwards, especially Vermuelen, Deysel and Werner Kruger. We have incredible depth in the loose trio.
I thought Jano Vermaak was very disappointing again. He does not have a good kicking game it appears. Certainly not consistent enough and he slipped the tackle for Keith Earls’ try.
Earl Rose was competent in bad conditions. Missed a few early tackles but otherwise was good. He was exceptional handling skills it must be said.
Both centres did well. Morgan Newman is like a 4th loose forward on the deck. Decent player.
Wings did their bit, whilst Kirchner was solid bar the poor kick in the lead-up to Earls’ try.
Hats off to Heini Adams and Willem de Waal though, they seemed to change the momentum of the game. And what a kick from De Waal as well.
23 Jun 2009, 21:28 pm
#378 Puma:
Ja he’s going far, fast. Maybe it is harsh to be so critical of his handling tonight considering the shocking conditions but that oke has power and he’s not afraid to use it. If he develops an offload and actually HAS support runners around him he could be a very very dangerous weapon!
23 Jun 2009, 21:28 pm
#374 bdb: Beast die Bul: de Waal is bekend vir sy taktiese skopwerk. Vanaand was nie ‘n goeie aand vir taktiese skopwerk nie.
Ek dink nie hy sou vir 80 minute beter gevaar het nie.
Ek hoop K9 is reeds weg want ek wil nie he hy moet hierdie lees nie. Maar Rose het ok gespeel onder baie slegte toestande. Maar hy is nie ‘n Bok nie, never.
23 Jun 2009, 21:29 pm
Don’t know why Deysel got MOM maybe he looks impressive with his bullocking workrate, but he gets isolated and turned over nearly every time he hangs onto the ball, he’s actually a little selfish and looks to do the hard yards all by himself never offloading ever. Potgieter and Vermeulen far better proponents of teamwork and linking play.
The truly impressive players in that set up were Vermaak, Adams, Potgieter, and the classic No.8 Vermeulen, Vermeulen a better proper classic all round No.8 than Spies, maybe not as devastating with ball in hand but I would be far more comfortable with Vermeulen behind the scrum and Brussow at 6 this coming weekend than with Schalk at 6 and Spies at 8, absolutely without any shadow of any doubt.
And Vermaak or Adams should be on the bench not 5 forwards with Bekker AND Roussouw both covering 4,5, and 7 and 8.
23 Jun 2009, 21:29 pm
Earl Rose was just not up to scratch, missing that easy kick plus other errors. Potgeiter, Vermuelen and Deysel were brilliant
23 Jun 2009, 21:30 pm
Potgieter is bloody brilliant!! Burger better watch out. On form he’s prob the behind Pot,Stegmen,Brussow etc etc. Lest hope he has a big one for the Boks though!
Vermaak was good but his kicks were a bit kak at times, Rose was average.Zane had some nice touches besides for his brain explosion at the start.
Great game!
23 Jun 2009, 21:31 pm
#388 skopskiet:
You off the booze today?
23 Jun 2009, 21:31 pm
#365 Puma: Ja actually a loose trio of Potgieter, Deysel and Vermuelen could be lethal if given enough time to gel…eeeish that would be a sight to see. Deysel running over O’Gara was classic. I hope PdV took note!
23 Jun 2009, 21:32 pm
#388 skopskiet: Skop be fair now. Everyone said he played awesome tonight. EVERYONE. Even on tv not just here.
Deysel is going to be a Bok. So you better get ready to accept that.
Vermuelen, Deysel and Potgieter all of them brilliant together.
23 Jun 2009, 21:32 pm
#390 CenturionShark (aka LondonShark):
I felt for Zane with that kick as Im a big fan of his. At this level you just cant make those kind of mistakes. Other than that though he was solid. Has a pretty impressive boot too!
23 Jun 2009, 21:33 pm
#388 skopskiet:
Vermaak? What? I thought he was very disappointing… Besides the little break he made when Ellis fumbled, but jeez, anyone could have done that…
23 Jun 2009, 21:33 pm
#392 Crouching Tiger Hidden Bokke: Deysel was superb tonight. That loose trio was superb. All going to be Boks wait and see. All of them.
23 Jun 2009, 21:34 pm
#394 Thameside Bok fan:
Yep, its a learning curve. Better now than in a test match I guess.
I still wish Terblanche was there for the Boks…
23 Jun 2009, 21:34 pm
#395 ziyaad:
I liked his kicking game and his distribution is good he provides quick, clean ball for his pivot and shows an excellent awareness of how the game is developing. He’s one to keep an eye on for the future.
23 Jun 2009, 21:34 pm
#386 Thameside Bok fan: He is going to be awesome. He is already. The weather was dreadful. Also had to play in rain tonight as well.
23 Jun 2009, 21:35 pm
#389 byoboy: How about the pinpoint touch to create the last try… seems to be an efficient player..does what matters… does not run around like a headless chicken… trying to create an impression effectiveness (Watch schalk on Saturday)
23 Jun 2009, 21:35 pm
Basson is a great prospect, and Kirchner, and the other wing looked eager but hardly saw the ball.
SA mindset is still firmly rooted in playing without the ball, a hangover from JW style of skop, skiet and donder dom f’k rugby, we could have produced numerous headaches for these Lions had we not booted every single ball provided into no mans land, had 2 or 3 kicks charged down and numerous attack opportunities turned around simply because our first ingrained instinct is to put boot to leather and not look what can be created out of the situation.
Until SA rugby evolves out of this limiting mindset (and this is a blatant coaching malady in this country – except for Bulls who now know how to play enterprising total rugby thanks to the input of 1 Pieter Roussouw), we will never really become world beaters that we should have been already a long long time ago.
23 Jun 2009, 21:35 pm
#388 skopskiet:
Jean Deysel made three direct breakdown turnovers. That is very rare even for an openside flanker, let alone a blindside flanker.
23 Jun 2009, 21:35 pm
#395 ziyaad:
I’m with you. Vermaaks kicking game was off tonight.
Great general play though in shocking scrummie conditions so overall he was good I guess.
23 Jun 2009, 21:35 pm
#395 ziyaad: #395 ziyaad: i dont think vermaak was terrible but his ability to clear quickly was definitely impeded by outstanding breakdown work from williams and co.
the conditions played a role too.
heini upped the tempo but also kicked too much ball away imo.
23 Jun 2009, 21:36 pm
Rose should have given the kicking to De Waal when he came on because he missed a relatively easy kick in the last quater and thats how tight the game was.
Considering how well De Waal has kicked this year, why wasnt he kicker No 1?
23 Jun 2009, 21:36 pm
#384 rangerman: Yip, Felt awesome for him.
23 Jun 2009, 21:37 pm
#398 Thameside Bok fan:
His kicking game today was very poor actually. Generally made a net loss on his kicks.
23 Jun 2009, 21:39 pm
You know who I was very, very impressed by today? James Hook. The guy has everything and his kicks were superb today is shocking conditions. He is such a creative player and he had that backline buzzing. A seriously talented footballer.
23 Jun 2009, 21:39 pm
#383 Crouching Tiger Hidden Bokke: A good leader too I think.
23 Jun 2009, 21:39 pm
Vermaak looked busy…but Heini showed what it’s all about.. I think that Vermaak tried to play Earl out of the game… very interesting
23 Jun 2009, 21:39 pm
#401 skopskiet:
Are you mentally capable of posting without crying about JW again – World Cup winning coach?
Go to the corner.
23 Jun 2009, 21:39 pm
Is it possible to be brilliant and kak in one word? No, it even out at average. Well that is Rose in a nutshell.
23 Jun 2009, 21:40 pm
#412 whatever:
And average is NOT Bok material!!
23 Jun 2009, 21:40 pm
I find Deysel limited and one dimensional, he’s a trier and a grafter, but not in the class of Potgieter or Vermeulen or Brussow, maybe he grows and becomes more coordinated and less selfish, but most those players were looking to make impressions early on and only started gelling late in the game.
Rose had an OK game from the outset, fluffed one or two kicks but overall at FH he has some attack instinct and produced some potential possibilities, people are far too critical of him, if he had a different skin color, a whole different set of perceptions would be forthcoming, that goes without saying over here.
23 Jun 2009, 21:40 pm
#404 rangerman:
No not terrible I guess. But he should not be listed among the stand-out performers in this game. In fact, he has been quite sub-par in both games against the B&I Lions.
Francois Hougaard, for me, is someone to watch in years to come. He was part of an all-conquering Paul Roos side of 2006 and has since moved to the Bulls. Also played for the Southern Kings before being injured around the 50th minute. Excellent player.
23 Jun 2009, 21:40 pm
The outside backs of the British Lions were outstanding, both wings were like greased lightning in the first half and the fullback had an exceptional game today. Hines played well when not involved off the ball and D’arcy was ulta-competitive in midfield.
23 Jun 2009, 21:41 pm
#410 Langenhoven:
WTF. Conspiracy theory?? Only a doos mate!
23 Jun 2009, 21:41 pm
#407 ziyaad:
I doubt he made a net loss on his kicks. There were some clever chips that fell just short of E Boks hands and I think he read the game well. He was obviously targeting Shane Williams and managed to isolate him more than once with the Bok wings bearing down on him. I like that he is a creative player and he aims to make things happen. His kicking in the conditions was great today.
23 Jun 2009, 21:41 pm
#401 skopskiet: the up and unders were presumably to take advantage of the slippery conditions.
standard approach from scotland to new zealand though possibly overdone on one or two occasions.
hint: chargedowns are as a result of pressure. usually, a good way to relieve pressure is to kick for territory or to turn the opposition around (for example see ruan pienaar circa 1st test vs B& I Lions 2009).
so as good as your ideas sound to you when you are repeating them in the darkness, i have to question wether you ever actually played the game skop.
23 Jun 2009, 21:42 pm
Well it looks like the bad weather is going to be in Cape Town for a few days still. Think the Lions must wish they went up to Joburg to train now. They will have to train in that wet weather, fields going to be soft and slippery. Not good for getting ready for a Altitude game on the hard grounds? Think we have won some advantage over them there that Boks are already in Joburg training.
23 Jun 2009, 21:43 pm
#414 skopskiet:
“…if he had a different skin color”
Thats your opinion, as useless as anyone else’s.
23 Jun 2009, 21:43 pm
#413 whatever: Like frans Steyn…??? who needs time to settle into position???
23 Jun 2009, 21:44 pm
#410 Langenhoven:
Heine was great! What a livewire, his first kick was a beauty!
#416 cab:
Hmmm agreed. Don’t think SW did enough to get picked for the Test side, he needed to cross the whitewash and he’s been given 6 games now. With a guy that has a strike rate as high as his not to score against the opposition he’s been playing is poor. D1arcy is class but with BOD/Roberts playing like they are he won’t get a look in I reckon.
23 Jun 2009, 21:44 pm
Die lostrio was uitstaande, met Deysel aan die voorpunt. Die res was tussen goed en gemiddeld. Ons het ‘n goeie paar spelers wat kan deurkom, wens net ons het in ander posisies soveel diepte gehad as wat ons het by die lostrio. Miskien moet ‘n paar van daai manne maar in die agterlyn of slot gaan speel, want daar is nie vir almal plek nie !
23 Jun 2009, 21:44 pm
#412 whatever: Maybe he is just brilliantly kak!
23 Jun 2009, 21:44 pm
Skop and Liar come on and the whole colour bullsh*t starts again.
Better to go to bed.
Night to those who made it such a pleasant evening up to a few posts ago.
Pity otherwise……
23 Jun 2009, 21:46 pm
Heinie Adams a class act scrumhalf, whenever that little general comes on at back of scrum the go forward momentum ups itself by a whole 30% immediately, hence the end result a try in the corner. Adams if not for FdP at Bulls should be Bok scrummy off bench, 2nd best scrummy in the country about now, him and Vermaak to fight it out for FdP understudy, and he’s by far the most effective distributor of the ball from the back of the scrum, far better than FdP any day of any week.
#411 Stawm:
Whats up, you still can’t see JW dom f’k rugby degenerating our natural game, its going to take a whole generation before we lose that dom f’k mindset of defense wins games, play without the ball, skop the thing to doerengone and hope for the best style rugby.
23 Jun 2009, 21:46 pm
#414 skopskiet: Skop you the only one here that thinks Deysel never had a good game. Jeez you need to take another look. Is it because he is a Sharks player? Give credit where it is due. Deysel was superb.
23 Jun 2009, 21:46 pm
#415 ziyaad: tgoo true.
when francois hougie left the field i think the southern kings lost all realistic chance of winning that game. he was running the game like a true general up to that point imo.
#414 skopskiet: unfortunately without a ball carrier like andy powel, juan smith and in this game jean deysel, all the fancy stepping and riverdancing gets you nowhere. thats right, nowhere.
there are none so blind as those who will not see.
23 Jun 2009, 21:46 pm
#417 whatever: mmmmm.. Glory seeker or anti-Earl dkhd… like the other losers on this blog??
23 Jun 2009, 21:46 pm
#422 Langenhoven:
We are talking about the emerging Boks and Rose. WTF has Steyn got to do with anything? Why do you have to bring him up? Colour your motive? Yeah I thought so ya plonker!
23 Jun 2009, 21:47 pm
#430 Langenhoven:
You are the only loser here doos. Care for a poll?
23 Jun 2009, 21:47 pm
With regards to Earl Rose…
I didn’t think he was deserving of a place in the Springbok squad… I certainly felt he has a severe lack of consistency.
However, he has excellent ball handling and indeed passing skills. His kicking out of hand is also very good, whilst his goal kicking is around 65%, but this can be improved.
When he takes the ball at pace, he can be electrifying. I imagine him tearing teams to shreds behind a dominant pack…
At the same time, I see him as someone who could quite easily fold when the going gets tough. I’d also be terrified to play him at 10 with a shift defense. His defense remains suspect.
In conclusion, I see him as someone who’s weaknesses can be rectified, but whose strengths are innate and cannot be taught.
In other words, I can see the sense in putting him in the Bok set-up. He can learn and grow as a player, much like a JP Duminy did for the cricket side.
Perhaps I’m wrong. Perhaps he’ll always be prone to silly errors. But I can see the logic behind his selection.
23 Jun 2009, 21:48 pm
#382 Crouching Tiger Hidden Bokke: go and read post #268 lmao!! Ha ha ha
23 Jun 2009, 21:48 pm
#427 skopskiet:
There you go again, blah, blah, blah.
I suppsoe the world cant see it as much as you cant let go of your affair with Me White.
23 Jun 2009, 21:48 pm
#426 Bul-a-Bhloo: Cheers Bhloo.
23 Jun 2009, 21:48 pm
Heinie should have been in the Bok squad instead of the vleispastei! Werner Kruger, the loosies, Bjorn Basson and Morgan Newman also impressed me tonight. Kirchner and Elastoplast Rose was average.
23 Jun 2009, 21:49 pm
#423 Thameside Bok fan:
they’ve got 4 very good wingers and 3 very good fullbacks on tour.
They just dont have an outstanding hooker, but i think the chap they’ll pick this saturday, Rees, is pretty good. Wallace is a very good opensider, cos he fecthes, but he’s pwerful, not unlike deysel but more compact.
23 Jun 2009, 21:49 pm
#426 Bul-a-Bhloo: I believe you manage a service station… what was your name again??…DEputy Director at Transnet..LMAO.. big Fkal more like it
23 Jun 2009, 21:50 pm
#388 skopskiet: I could not agree more, what on earth are Danie and Bekker doing on the same bench Saturday and what is Carstens doing there at all? Maybe it’s acting ability.
23 Jun 2009, 21:50 pm
#427 skopskiet: a whole generations mindset completely moulded by Jake White?
would that be the winning mindset?
23 Jun 2009, 21:50 pm
#424 bdb: Beast die Bul: hiyas BDB
2 Dinge ?? beast is nou skielik a bul?? net in jou drome broer lol , en ek dog dan net die bulle is goeie spelers??
En het ek jou nie gese deysel is a goeie fetcher ook nie??
elk geval boet lekker om te terg
kirchner was nie vandag op sy beste nie maar hy bly n baie goeie speler
die newman center was nie so sleg nie. balle gedrop ya maar toestande was swak
maar hy verdedig goed en kompiteer vir die losbal soos a fetcher , goed om te sien
23 Jun 2009, 21:51 pm
#438 Hier kom groot k..:
Wasn’t too impressed with Newman, he knocked on twice and lost the ball in contact too. I thought he was too weak in defence but it is obvious that he has talent and he’s got so much time to improve.
23 Jun 2009, 21:51 pm
#415 skopskiet: Agg k@k its got nothing to do with his skin colour. I always want the guy to come out of his shell and hit his straps and everytime he seems to get flustered and start doing hairbrain things. He has potential, but god knows when he will reach it. Right now he´s more liability than advantage. I really wish I could say the opposite cos I think it would be great to have options at flyhalf. Maybe his biggest problem is a lack of confidence and perhaps some kind of fear?
23 Jun 2009, 21:51 pm
Man…….! I write one thing about Earl Rose and they MOD my post…?!
23 Jun 2009, 21:52 pm
Adams should be picked over januarie, his service is infinitely crisper and he kicks well, ou doos is quite right, there is no other SA scrumhalf that gets go-foward from the pack like Adams. Vermaak kicked too much tonight.
23 Jun 2009, 21:53 pm
#401 skopskiet: Ai, but you know how to talk k@k hey?
WAS P Rossouw instrumental in the Bull`s S14 title in 2007?
I do give him some credit this year, but remember he is just the backline coach. Ludeke is the coach remember?
23 Jun 2009, 21:54 pm
#441 rangerman:
23 Jun 2009, 21:54 pm
#432 whatever: How can I be the loser… don’t be silly now.. I have proved my self to be more than you…I’ve got a real name.. you prefer to be a nobody… says it all..
23 Jun 2009, 21:54 pm
#433 ziyaad: rose’s big problem is not skill but lack of mental strength
and not the brightest oke around with decision making
if he could solve that he could be far better as a player
also you summed it up nicely re deysel
i have said it over and over in here he is a 7 flank ,plays like schalk burger but he can do the fetching role too
23 Jun 2009, 21:54 pm
#443 Thameside Bok fan:
You and I don’t agree much it seems. Newman was not aggressive enough on defense but he did cause quite a bit of havoc with his breakdown skills, which is very useful for a centre. I thought his hands were quite good on the whole, bar the occasion where Earl Rose pretty much sold him down the river. Looked good.
23 Jun 2009, 21:55 pm
#439 cab:
Yup living over here Ive had time to watch a lot of the players the Lions have picked. Mears was selected for his throwing and work around the park but a lot of people think he’s too small against a team like the Boks. Rees is not bad but I don’t think he’d make the Boks side in front of guys like Js and Bismark. Wallace is a good opensider but you know they have to balance the trio well and IMO I think M Williams is a better option he’s not spectacular but he gets the job done.
23 Jun 2009, 21:55 pm
what i really enjoyed was the attempted rolling maul by the lions.
i can just picture the talk before:
@ok lads, lets show geech that we can do it too, maybe then we can all start the test”
guess not
23 Jun 2009, 21:55 pm
#443 Thameside Bok fan: actually i think the youngster has a lot of potential
i know he knocked , but so did many players
he is a good future player
23 Jun 2009, 21:56 pm
#433 ziyaad: I did not concentrate on Rose. He has skills. But his performance was average, neither good nor bad. At 24 he had better start showing what can be taught him soon. Tiger Woods he ain’t.
One hopes he can improve, we need all the skillful game breakers we can foster. Have to say that Tiny Heini and Old Bill looked a lot shharper as a pair when they came on than Vermaak and Rose.
23 Jun 2009, 21:56 pm
#446 cab: With you on that cab… but he could not even make the starting 15 today… do you think the selections were a bit funny…
23 Jun 2009, 21:56 pm
#450 sharks_lover:
I tend to agree.
23 Jun 2009, 21:56 pm
#449 Langenhoven: Wow – watta man!
23 Jun 2009, 21:57 pm
#452 ziyaad:
Nothing wrong with disagreement, it adds to healthy debate. If everybody had teh same opinion about all the players we watch it’d be a helluva boring debate!
23 Jun 2009, 21:58 pm
#442 sharks_lover: How you mate? Did you watch the test on Saturday? Think you said you would be away.
We were really giving it to them until almost half the team were taken off. Then it was all Lions.
Beast was superb. John again came to the rescue..hehe. Why they take our captain off so early is just dumb.
Now cant wait for the Loftus test. Should be really good.
23 Jun 2009, 21:58 pm
#452 Thameside Bok fan:
I think Williams is a better linkman, but in a ferocious contest like the Bok/Lions test, you want Wallace. He was the pick of the looseforwards on show last saturday if you watch carefully even tho the accolades went to croft.
23 Jun 2009, 21:58 pm
#444 Slumtown:
he suffers from confidence let down at a higher level, something even Ruan has had to overcome and up his BMT, I’m not really a Rose fan, he wouldn’t make my team, not my 22 or perhaps even my squad.
But he created some possibilities tonight and people generally are ready to cut anyone down at a a moments notice without seeing some potential and possibility, even your holy illuminated Mr. God of SA rugby, Flakey Jakey White rates Earl Rose, probably far more than I do.
23 Jun 2009, 21:58 pm
#446 cab: nonsense cab.
ever heard of rory kockott?
heini is really good but lets not get all hearts and flowers here please.
23 Jun 2009, 21:59 pm
#455 sharks_lover:
Hey Sharks,
I think he’s got a lot of potential and I think he’s one for the future I just thought he had an average game today. His knock-ons and handling might well have been down to the poor conditions!
23 Jun 2009, 21:59 pm
#449 Langenhoven:
Only thing you have is a big head and a thick skin. I play with Doos’s I don’t talk to them…….out!
23 Jun 2009, 21:59 pm
#455 peterg123:
Fair point. He is certainly not a Tiger Woods.
James O’Connor. Australian utility back. Turning 19 in two weeks. Now that would be someone you could describe as the Tiger Woods of rugby.
Remember him getting hammered by Nonu as a 17 year old, getting up, shaking it off and scoring a try in his next start last year for the Western Force.
23 Jun 2009, 21:59 pm
#460 Puma: hiyas bro , hope ur doing well??
nope just flew back today and have not seen the game yet
hoping to see it still
23 Jun 2009, 22:00 pm
#459 Thameside Bok fan:
Haha. Cheers.
23 Jun 2009, 22:01 pm
#462 cab:
Its a tricky one isn’t it? Wallace and Williams are both quality. Without Brussow to start one of them has a chance to look very good on the deck. Then again he’ll be up against Schalk(!)
23 Jun 2009, 22:02 pm
#401 Langenhoven: It was hardly “pinpoint”. It was out a good few metres from the tryline. If he cant manage that he shouldnt be playing rugby. “pinpoint” would be virtually on the line. Earl does the basics well, he just seems frail when he gets nabbed with the ball, his defence is leaky and he gets flustered. He has a lack of confidence in himself. I wish he could get over it because he has got the potential to be great. But his malady isnt something that can be rectified by practice alone.
You could see the look on his face when he kicked that missed penalty. I feel for the guy a lot because he wants it badly. But he has to start at square one with himself. I think he should change franchise and go to Stormers for instance. He would get more game time and possibly a different setup might help him get out of his shell.
23 Jun 2009, 22:02 pm
#463 rangerman: Yes agree, Rory should have been selected. Just think PdV will never select him. Why I have no idea. Rory is our 2nd best scrummie. We will lose him eventually to OZ. Or he will leave to play overseas. Feel for him actually. Watching the other scrummies that have been selected ahead of him.
23 Jun 2009, 22:02 pm
#460 Puma: amazing bro , the okes some supporters in here kept questioning again proved their worth and to be the best
ruan F steyn deysel smit beast bismark
deysel today again proved he is not only a brilliant 7 flank but he does the fetching role from that position
potgieter also impresses me more and more
23 Jun 2009, 22:02 pm
#465 whatever: Later.. play with yourself then
23 Jun 2009, 22:03 pm
#456 Langenhoven:
vermaak is a great scrummy too, very sharp, wish he’d break more or pass, rather then those infinitely stupid boxkicks which simply flip possession. But Adams knows how to play the game in terms of getting go-forward from the base, he melds in with the pack at exactly the right time and fires it out. Januarie has two problems which are always going to hinder him as a scrumhalf, he is cumbersome in having a weight problem and his service has never been great, both need alot of work, and its clear when he’s not been putting either in. he’s actually a hindrance and caused province much pain this year too, and i hate to say that cos he’s try against new zealand was one of the greatest individual scrumhalfs tries ever.
23 Jun 2009, 22:03 pm
i dont mind being ignored.
i take it as a compliment.
usually it means that there is no counter.
23 Jun 2009, 22:03 pm
#400 Langenhoven: he wasn’t too bad but not bok material IMO.
23 Jun 2009, 22:03 pm
#473 sharks_lover:
Agree was impressed with both of them. Their work rate as individuals and as a combo was outstanding!
23 Jun 2009, 22:04 pm
You are never impressed with any POC it seems,maybe coincidence or is their something more to it?Oh and you are not residing in SA any more, that explains everything I suppose.
23 Jun 2009, 22:04 pm
#473 Langenhoven: So original – u r a genius!
23 Jun 2009, 22:05 pm
#463 rangerman:
different players, kockett is very good, he kicks well and he darts well, i am talking of a scrumhalf who’s going to get you go-forward, who’s going to make your backline look dangerous.
23 Jun 2009, 22:05 pm
#471 Puma: he will get his shot if he just keeps his head down and carries on working hard.
23 Jun 2009, 22:05 pm
#463 rangerman:
Adams is a 1000 times better than cocky little Kokkerot, Adams is a classic scrumhalf in the classic crisp effective passing and general scrum half mold, he hardly ever tries get fancy and full of himself, he does what scrum halves are supposed to do and that is distribute the ball… at pace, ..
and to answer your dom f’k question you tried insinuating a few posts ago. I probably played this game long before you were even born.
If Adams ran the boks backline from base of the scrum they would get go forward ball every time it emerges from the set piece. And Vermeulen at 8 would be a sound investment with Brussow at 6 and Potgieter at 7, before your bullocking ball carrier who likes to get himself isolated, Deysel.
23 Jun 2009, 22:05 pm
#367 Puma: I musta say, I wasn’t particulary sure about Deysel but tonight I was converted, quite clearly he is injury free, Juan better watch out
23 Jun 2009, 22:06 pm
#467 sharks_lover: We were really all over them in the first half. Then about 10 min into the 2nd half they subbed almost half the team at once. so damn stupid then it was us on the back foot defending like crazy until the end. Lucky to win. Thank goodness John got back on in the last 5 min. Otherwise who knows we may have lost it.
I got tickets last Friday. Thought what the heck just get them and go. Never got good seats but what the heck the atmosphere was awesome. Vibe and atmosphere from those Lions supporters was brilliant. A fun lot they are. Weather superb too.
23 Jun 2009, 22:06 pm
I am truly amazed that anyone even gives skop the time of day on this website….his consistent drivel and absolute infatuation with the days of JW makes incredibly boring reading…he claims that he wishes that sa rugby moves on..well I’m sure we would all in this forum wish that he too moved on…times they have changed skop…wake up and smell how bad the roses are….
23 Jun 2009, 22:06 pm
#463 skopskiet: Yeah I agree with you, but I think we play teh race card on here far too easily. Rose is judged more by what he does on field than anything else I feel. I was never fond of Vermaak till this year when he really put his hand up but his last 2 performaces were a bit shaky. I´m the first to admit it. So I give credit where its due and I give that credit mostly on consistency.
For example I rated Kockott earlier this year and you had your doubts. He did really well and he´s tapered off again. His temper is a MAJOR issue. You got that right. So again – credit where its due. I saw Jantjes in Super 14 last year and he was on fire. I was a firm fan, but when he got the Bok jersey he started looking very one dimensional to me. Its got nothing to do with race.
You have to have consistency.
Heini Adams was awesome tonight and his tactical kicking was great. A definite possible for the number 2 scrummie position which is wide open at the mo.
23 Jun 2009, 22:07 pm
#483 XhosaKid: thanks for the honesty
pity not all can be so
23 Jun 2009, 22:07 pm
#480 cab: mate, the sharks backline didnt fire this year admittedly but i think it was more due to the lack of a ball carrier (deysel was injured).
kocky gets the backline moving and i am really not sure what you mean by go-forward other than passing,kicking and darting well?
23 Jun 2009, 22:08 pm
#483 skopskiet:
I don’t agree with that. I rate Adams very highly indeed and think he has massive potential but Kockett is an outstanding player in his own right. Their styles are very different but both are effective. RK is a nagging, effecient scrummie and he doesn’t take a backward step, I’d have him in a Bok training squad in the blink of an eye.
23 Jun 2009, 22:09 pm
#483 XhosaKid: Thanks Xhosa for being so honest. Deysel really puts in 100%. Very strong when carrying the ball. I have said a long time Juan better watch out. Deysel is knocking on the door now.
Vermuelen and Potgieter too were superb. All of the loose trio.
We have to really take notice of the NH ref this Sat. They seem to ref very different to the SH refs.
PdV will talk to him before I have no doubt. Think its a French ref.
23 Jun 2009, 22:09 pm
#489 Thameside Bok fan: mate its no use arguing with a dork that is a mister know it all , he hates the sharks , so it matters not how well a sharks player plays
he will always insult them
shows his lack of up bringing
23 Jun 2009, 22:11 pm
#470 Slumtown: Nobody stood out as exceptional tonight….but the weather made all look average…It wasn’t a great game… This was Earls first real opportunity at the highest level.. What he done may have been minimal but it was effective…and in that respect he certainly gave the team options… Earl has always done well at 10… and kuk at 15… but the idiots on this blogg tend to look at his play at 15 to rate him as a 10… I would rather have a player that makes it count than a showoff like vermaak..
23 Jun 2009, 22:12 pm
Thought Vermaak did almost too much kicking to take pressure off Rose but besides that i dont think he was bad at all. Adams as a replacement was extremely effective. With Rose you dont know what you get, i dont think the weather favoured him but watching in the stands he was someone who you didnt want the ball to whereas Lions fans were shouting for it to go to him. Zane was alright besides his kick but was ineffective playing at 13 next to Newman, also nothing special. Thought Kruger, Steenkamp, Duane and Potgetier were brilliant. Deysel running over ROG – equal highlight with Willems kick.
Regarding Rose, i think playing in Europe ala Monty or playing for Force would be best. Needs to put on muscle as loses the ball way too often in contact. Duane should definitely be in bok contention
23 Jun 2009, 22:12 pm
Adams a class act above January.
I want to see more of Adams. The man needs game time.
Enough said.
23 Jun 2009, 22:13 pm
#489 Thameside Bok fan: I would too. Kockott is in your face scrummie. Like it should be. Why he never got a chance is just not fair on him. Now think it will be Adams. Pity.
#491 sharks_lover: When you watch the game. Just watch Beast. He was really outstanding. Got mom too. Well deserved.
23 Jun 2009, 22:13 pm
#482 skopskiet:
agree with all of that and your loosetrio would be outstanding behind a tight 5 that win the breakdown collisions. i will just say two points on brussouw, i thought he was good in his first appearance, but he did not shine like he normally does, this is because the game is that much higher at test level and its all fire and brimstone stuff where players even as quick as brussow dont have time to set themselves, its pandemonium and winnig collisions.
You are right about balance, and i’ve come to your viewpoint that it is essential to have this in the backrow (tho i still worry with matfield at 5 who hardly ever cleans anything), but its also essential to have the impact players like Deysel who take it up hard and get you over that adv line. Put Deysel on the bench for Juan smith in the last 20 mins and it will be devastating seeing that from a lions perspective. Brussow can keep going at 6 the whole game. Alternate 8 between Burger first when its pandemonium early on, and spies later when opened up and he can work some space.
23 Jun 2009, 22:13 pm
#466 ziyaad: Totally agree…. or Haban’s Twickers debut!
23 Jun 2009, 22:13 pm
#485 tijuanatommi: did you read all his post… must be interesting…
23 Jun 2009, 22:14 pm
#492 sharks_lover:
Ja he had a bit of a go after the game on Saturday was a bit boozed up and talking k@k. Have learned to just avoid the oke.
Anyway did you not catch the game Saturday?
23 Jun 2009, 22:15 pm
#493 liefling: Best post of the day!
23 Jun 2009, 22:15 pm
#482 skopskiet: first paragraph was missing an “i think” or an “in my opinion” as a starting point.
second paragraph possibly says it all. the game has changed so much over the years and your platitudes about “dom skop skiet and donner rugby” are quite frankly meaningless.
and i mean that in the most emphatic sense.
paragraph three? if, would, would would if could should blah blah blah. you are so full of it i dont know why i engage actually. i could probably have more concise and intelligent rugby conversations with a child named Jabulani who has just been introduced last week to Tag rugby by the Pharos Legends.
come to think of it, have you ever tried Tag? you can riverdance all day long without kicking i hear. fantastic.
23 Jun 2009, 22:16 pm
#488 rangerman:
you are right one of the problems was the injury to deysel, they dont have the depth of the Bulls at 4 or 7, which is why they were always going to be just shy. Still Kockett is selfish, its his greatest strength in a way his self-belief, but adams gets the backline moving, there;s almst a rhythm to it and you could feel the e-boks just get that sharper when he delivered. put in another way for 70mins they never looked like scoring, he came on and the backline seemed to have alot more time.
23 Jun 2009, 22:16 pm
#476 byoboy: good qualification (IMO)… respect!!
23 Jun 2009, 22:17 pm
#496 cab: I like your idea of Deysel on the Bench. He would be devastating coming in. Juan better watch out though. Deysel could be knocking on the door soon. For now it would have been awesome to have him on the bench.
23 Jun 2009, 22:18 pm
#501 rangerman: lol hiyas ranger bro
best to ignore it , it feeds on attention
23 Jun 2009, 22:18 pm
#458 China: I am huge mate
23 Jun 2009, 22:19 pm
#446 cab: who is ou doos now?
23 Jun 2009, 22:19 pm
#504 Puma: lemme tell you if deysel and brussouw played together with both fetching and being big defenders a player like spies could run wild
23 Jun 2009, 22:19 pm
#506 Langenhoven: Ego?
23 Jun 2009, 22:20 pm
#507 Transformation:
only ou doos knows, its a term of affection.
23 Jun 2009, 22:20 pm
Okay Cheers all. Out of here now.
Go Bokke.
23 Jun 2009, 22:20 pm
#505 Puma:
I don’t know about everybody saying Juan is not playing well. He’s been the standout Bok for the past few years and is solid in every facet of play. Such a valuable player for the Boks especially when you factor in his line-out jumping.
23 Jun 2009, 22:21 pm
Willem de Waal take a bow!!!
23 Jun 2009, 22:22 pm
#512 Thameside Bok fan:
He is outstanding, but he’s blowing by the 65th min, the oke is over 6ft5 and does the work of an opensider, you gotta get another hard hitter on the last 15 who careers into the contact point.
23 Jun 2009, 22:22 pm
#509 China: Massive!!
23 Jun 2009, 22:23 pm
#502 cab: whaaaaaaaaat???
the bokketjies looked like scoring 3 or 4 times but for forward passes or overcooked kicks cab.
in fact for the last 15-20 mins of the first half, they dominated.
and some of that has to come back to vermaaks territorial kicking.
sure, heini did well when he came on, but like i said, lets not get too far ahead of ourselves.
#505 sharks_lover:howzit mate.
ag, i dont mind.
this kehla needs our attention clearly.
23 Jun 2009, 22:24 pm
#515 Langenhoven: Massive twat?
23 Jun 2009, 22:24 pm
Ok…..
1) Earl was not bad at 10…. but really does not look comfortable. When De Waal came on, he was self-assured , calm and everything just “seemed” in control, albei he is not flashy…. having said that— Earl is by no means 3rd choice bok flyhalf..!
2) O gara just seems to be a miserable chop! before… and after the game!
3) flutey’s decision-making under pressure was shown up on more than one occasion.
4)i was highly impressed by Heini Adams.. The scrum-half touches the ball by far the most in the game, and thus,, his job is to control the tempo. Heini arrived and injected a great deal of pace, varying his play to keep the oppo guessing. ( as did Vermaak) heinis play was just more noticeable…
5) I am hungry… does alcohol count as a food group???
23 Jun 2009, 22:24 pm
#508 sharks_lover: Agree. Just need to get the Coach to see that. Maybe he will now. We do have Brussow on the Bench and he was actually really good on Saturday. Once he left I felt we hardly saw any ball. Then Bakkies was subbed at the same time. So daft. Then Beast and Johan, FdP and so on. Was crazy to sub a team that was in the driving seat from the start. Stupid. Brussow had just scored a try and got subbed!!!!!! The mind just boggles.
Now out of here. Cheers Shark_Lover.
23 Jun 2009, 22:25 pm
#519 Puma: Johan = John.
23 Jun 2009, 22:25 pm
Hard to find where to fit Kanko, bit of a shame – rated him highly.
23 Jun 2009, 22:25 pm
#493 Langenhoven: I hear what youre saying but I think my criticism is still valid of Earl. I really hope he sorts himself out because he can develop into one of the greats if he can overcome his issues.
Like I said – everytime he plays I wish this is the game for him. But so far he hasnt played that game. Maybe he should smoke some dope before the match to calm the nerves hehehe.
Kirchner was average when he usually is good, but I agree with Skop that Heini was classy.
23 Jun 2009, 22:26 pm
But this of course all speculatio, the real maestro from paarl will show us how its done come sat.
oh i cant wait to see what the conjurer has planned.
will it be more setpiece mastery or do we see the offload dazzler?
23 Jun 2009, 22:26 pm
#517 China: I think you refering to whatever…logged off some time ago..
23 Jun 2009, 22:27 pm
#519 Puma: cheers bro
23 Jun 2009, 22:27 pm
how i ask you, could anyone suggest putting potgieter and brussouw on as 7 and 6 and leave out jean deysel or juan smith at 7?
surely anyone with eyes saw deysel making the hard yards today and potgieter competing at the breakdown (maybe slightly outplayed by martyn williams in all honesty)?
ag, why bother.
lmao.
23 Jun 2009, 22:28 pm
#518 green_and_gold:
5) yes. bread in a can.
23 Jun 2009, 22:28 pm
#495 Puma: kokkit deserves a chance
23 Jun 2009, 22:29 pm
#527 rangerman: Would love to see 6 Brussouw, 7 Deysel, 8 Spies or Vermeulen combo.
23 Jun 2009, 22:29 pm
#524 Langenhoven: Get your facts straight. Please come out of exile – come lead our nation – you and your big mouth could easily kick J Zuma’s ***. We need you bro – seriaas!!
23 Jun 2009, 22:29 pm
#512 Thameside Bok fan: He is but never really had a good S14 until he came back from injury. He will play well with the Boks. Just nice to know there is another player just waitinging in the wings. We have so much talent here really. Its a good feeling.
Now really out of here.
23 Jun 2009, 22:29 pm
#531 Puma: meant = waiting.
23 Jun 2009, 22:30 pm
#526 rangerman: its called selective sight
they see but refuse to adamit what they see or plainly just refuse to see
its for that reason i just ignore anything the clown says
23 Jun 2009, 22:31 pm
#501 rangerman:
Your a pompous little **** head, so why don’t you just go pomp a padda you little vain pompous prat, no wonder you think the sun shines out of Rory Kocketts ***, you and him have much in common. Pompous little glory boy pommie pansies from that last bastion of prima donna colonialism you mommy’s boys hail from.
23 Jun 2009, 22:31 pm
#528 byoboy: He does agree 100%
Jeez just never getting out of here tonight….hehehe.
Now Gone
23 Jun 2009, 22:32 pm
#529 Slumtown: i still think kanko is better then vermeulen
but eish we have so many great loosies
kanko deysel brussouw , not a bad combo
23 Jun 2009, 22:33 pm
#534 skopskiet: Spit it out Skop, let it go – no constipation tonight
23 Jun 2009, 22:33 pm
#535 Puma: cheers boet
23 Jun 2009, 22:33 pm
#529 Slumtown: me too man.
i rate vermeulen but is he quick enough for test rugby?
deysel is our natural successor to juan smith (the most underrated bok in the team imo).
#533 sharks_lover: ag, i love reading the kuk spewed out by skopskiet sometimes. especially when someone like tight head comes on and talks real rugby sense.
23 Jun 2009, 22:34 pm
#534 skopskiet: Come on Skop no need for all that ****. Why do you always have it in for the Natal folk? Give it a rest.
Remember Hillbrow in the early 70′s? Chill man. That was more like it hey
23 Jun 2009, 22:34 pm
#522 Slumtown: He would like some game time too… when he had the opportunity in the CC he took it with both hands … everybody said bok material…Loffie got instructions from the AFriforum to sink him at that point… we all know the story.. The Earl is still being persecuted… why.. because he dared to break the dominance of whites in that position…
23 Jun 2009, 22:34 pm
#400 Langenhoven: Get a life.
23 Jun 2009, 22:34 pm
#534 skopskiet: yoh! did someone wet his nappy?
23 Jun 2009, 22:35 pm
#539 rangerman: i see you touched a couple of his nerves
23 Jun 2009, 22:36 pm
Cheers all. Must have said it about 20 times tonight. Just cant get out of here.
Now really gone
23 Jun 2009, 22:36 pm
Vermeulen also a hundred times the ball carrier that Deysel is, he carries with some intelligence, Deysel similar to Schalk without the fire and brimstone, Potgieter is the thinking live wire No.7 / 8, Vermeulen the classic No.8, and Brussow the ultimate scavenger No.6.
Kanko’s purely a pretty boy show pony that would go dismally awol if he had to front up to any these Lions loose forwards, even far worse than Spies does.
23 Jun 2009, 22:36 pm
#540 Puma: too much acid i reckon puma
23 Jun 2009, 22:36 pm
Well done to Potgeiter, Vermeulen and Deysel, brilliant brilliant brilliant and of course de Waal for that excellent kick…the B&I lions spirit looked broken. Cheers people
23 Jun 2009, 22:37 pm
Ronan O’Gara a real as*hole…referred to the bad conditions at least 200 times
Ok let’s move on to the E-Boks now to see who put up their hands:
* Steven Sykes!
* Dewald Potgieter!
* Jean Deysel!
* Duane Vermeulen
* Heinie Adams
* Willem de Waal
* Bjorn Basson
* Zane Kirchner
Just to confirm: De Waal’s conversion was good, Stransky merely said that from 1 angle it looked like it didn’t.
But the asst refs were very confident.
23 Jun 2009, 22:38 pm
#530 China: I’ve got no point to prove in SA.. done it all… Its like asking Ronaldo to try out for Bloem celtic… hows that for an egotistical SOB
23 Jun 2009, 22:38 pm
#547 rangerman:
You never know…hehe.
23 Jun 2009, 22:39 pm
#541 Langenhoven: we are waiting for Burton Francis.
he is our Obama
#544 sharks_lover: lmao!
#546 skopskiet: yes yes. last year it was jaques louis potgieter as the saviour of south african flyhalf play, then it was peter grant (you seem to be over that infatuation though).
do you really think kanko is a pretty boy?
23 Jun 2009, 22:40 pm
#542 Harder-Faster: Got one…I write about it too…and as for you??
23 Jun 2009, 22:40 pm
Yeah pompous pommie boy piety only hails out of that funny little lost empirical bastion where all these pompous dickheads like this Rangerman mommy’s boy and the other twat whatsisname Gavin Richy Rich hail from, you can see these pompous prats coming a mile off with all their top hats bow ties and tails all a flutter.
23 Jun 2009, 22:41 pm
#433 ziyaad: lukka ou.
nooit your an idiot.
its very difficult to learn defense, the guy just doesnt have the guts and his skills are above average at best.
unbelievable who some people pin their hopes of transformation on.
23 Jun 2009, 22:42 pm
#529 Slumtown:
Lucky you are not the bok coach or selector!!
23 Jun 2009, 22:42 pm
#549 Sheriff: well summed up sheriff.
good game imo. i really enjoyed it.
jean deysel seemed so……humble……when he recieved his award.
a great representative of the wonderful Kingdom of Kwa-Zulu Natal
23 Jun 2009, 22:42 pm
#552 rangerman: Talk kuk …Obama?? lol… Burton FRancis will see less game time next year than this year.. he will be playing Vodacom cup only in 2011.. nothing to do with his talent though…ons weet mos how werk die storie
23 Jun 2009, 22:43 pm
#552 rangerman: see the roaches are out to seek attention
23 Jun 2009, 22:46 pm
#554 skopskiet:
Chop
23 Jun 2009, 22:47 pm
#554 skopskiet: You spit anger – and you talk tripe – but you have a vocab second to none – ever thought of publishing the skopskiet new world dictinorary? should amuse the universe for ages.
23 Jun 2009, 22:47 pm
JL Potgieter is a fine prospect, totally underrated thinking running flyhalf, and Peter Grant was sold down the river by **** Muir and PDV and Jake White before them.
Peter Grant could have been our Honibal, and had they played him last year, no doubt whatsoever we would have clinched the 3N, though would have been a good idea to have FdP on the sidelines last year too, Heinie Adams would have been so much better, Ricky January, Heinie Adams and Peter Grant last year would have ensured no question about it we would have nailed the 3N and brought the bacon home. Butch and Fdp stuffed our chances abysmally between them.
23 Jun 2009, 22:47 pm
#513 Sheriff: Thats the problem with us SA rugby fans, for instance in the 74th minute, Rose received a pass inside our 22, he ran the ball, goose stepped and got nailed but managed to place the ball for Heini to make a quick crisp pass to De Waal who had at least 5 players to his outside, instead of passing, he kicked down to the BIL fullback, who in turn booted it back nicely in space ( Rose wasn’t home, still coming back from the tackle point), we conceeded a scrum and from that scrum we conceeded a penalty, the score changed from 6-10 to 6-13. Guess what?, after that De waal received the ball 8 times and ran it 8 times, as they say the rest is history.
Lets watch the game, its important to do so
23 Jun 2009, 22:49 pm
Would have liked to see Burton get a chance. Its a shame some guys like Heini just dont get game time
23 Jun 2009, 22:51 pm
#557 rangerman:
Yeah he was very humble. Loves the physical confrontation!
Dewald Potgieter without doubt a player for the future!
Just something on Willem de Waal; I do think he is past his best but I do rate him. I think if he was fitter and maybe lost a few kgs he would have a real chance to get into the Bok team.
I know many will disagree with me but he is one of the few dinkum 10′s in SA. What I’m saying is that I was not surprised when he landed that conversion. It showed his mental strength and one should also consider the conditions as referred to by Ro’G…
23 Jun 2009, 22:51 pm
#554 skopskiet:
you are clearly mad.
23 Jun 2009, 22:53 pm
#563 XhosaKid:
De Waal set up that penalty against us by booting it to no mans land in the motion before to be returned into our 22 with interest, typical saffa style nondescript boot to ball rugby.
Only when we held on to it and started probing gaps and territory did we eventually look to dominate and create chances, could have happened so much earlier,if only they’d stop booting the damn thing out of sheer SA instinctual programming.
Heinie Adams a little general in the Divan Serfontein mold.
23 Jun 2009, 22:54 pm
#563 XhosaKid:
A bit tired here mate, are you agreeing with me or not?
23 Jun 2009, 22:55 pm
#563 XhosaKid: i was so mad when willem de waal kicked that up and under with all the players outside of him xhosa.
at that point i nearly lost my cool and started ranting like a skopskiet.
#565 Sheriff: eish, i am not sure sheriff. i personally think earl rose has more talent but less mental strength than willem de waal.
cracker conversion though. made my night.
23 Jun 2009, 22:57 pm
#564 liefling: burton kicked a conversion in a s14 final! what a moment for him.
just like morne waited til liefling(bhleeugh, spit) left, heini and burtons chance will come.
23 Jun 2009, 22:59 pm
#563 XhosaKid: You are talking to sheriif…to much facts..and he is not the sharpest pencil in the box
23 Jun 2009, 23:00 pm
ok, i am off to bed.
skop, have a good night.
give the ticker a rest too.
BOKKE! (and Jean Deysel!!!)
23 Jun 2009, 23:02 pm
#570 rangerman:
see what you saying, his kick was a beauty albeit. What union is u21 flyhalf Lionel Cronje at?
23 Jun 2009, 23:02 pm
#569 rangerman:
Earl Rose just does not have it yet and I doubt that he ever will…
He is an instinctive player, but you need to be able to vary your play at 10 between playing on gut feel and reverting to a more structured approach.
I’d rather invest in players like Heinie and Zane. Pity that Zane kicked that ball into approaching Lions player’s hands, must have affected him, but I have faith in him.
But Dewald Potgieter is the surprise package for me for 2009!
He will get even better. Deysel must look to link up with his 9 more often, a bit isolated at times but what a player!
23 Jun 2009, 23:03 pm
ALL YOU POMPOUS IDIOTS WHO DISAGREED WITH MY GENIUS – EAT YOUR WORDS !
EARL ROSE IS A RUGBY GOD !
DANWELL DEMAS IS A LIVING LEGEND !
PHIL VICKERY IS BACK !
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
23 Jun 2009, 23:04 pm
Off to bed too… cheers all…May Bafana do the business against brazil…not beyond the realm of possibilities… even though it would be a black swan event
23 Jun 2009, 23:04 pm
Zane really did not do his Bok chances much good with his charge down. I suppose in **** conditions and with additional speed of defenders, he could have found himself under mroe pressure than he was accustomed to. Or maybe he was just nervous – because he is normally really good on clearing his kicks.
He also let a try opportunity go begging when he joined teh line and passed too soon without drawing his man. If he had, we could have got another try and won the game.
The ref was letting the Lions get away with murder at the breakdowns. Not one rolled awy the whole match!
23 Jun 2009, 23:05 pm
#575 rugbygenius: Yeah and u r father Christmas
23 Jun 2009, 23:05 pm
#558 skopskiet: empirical bastion? Really, what are you trying to say?
23 Jun 2009, 23:05 pm
#571 Langenhoven:
Why do you worship me?
I thought you’re an atheist?
23 Jun 2009, 23:06 pm
#575 rugbygenius: DO I HEAR A HOOAH!!!.. Drink maar lekker…its about passion…long live
23 Jun 2009, 23:08 pm
Newman i think has close to no talent. I remember seeing him at Bishops and he was no way a star in that team either. Ebersohn a much better talent. As is Vulindlu, whose preffered position is centre
23 Jun 2009, 23:08 pm
#577 SjamBok:
Good points!
Zane a slow starter, he improved gradually at the Bulls but was very consistent in 2009. He was nervous no doubt.
Northern Hem refs always a pain in the as$.
For that matter NZ and Aus refs too. Pedantic and partially blind.
23 Jun 2009, 23:08 pm
#580 Sheriff: He proclaims that, but deep inside…
23 Jun 2009, 23:08 pm
#578 China: No mate ! I’m just a realist ! HELL I LOVE THOSE 3 ! DEMAS FOR PRESIDENT ! WOOOOOOOOO !
#581 Langenhoven: LONG LIVE BROTHER ! I LOVE RUGBY ! I LOVE EARL ! RUGBY FEVER ! WOOOOOO
23 Jun 2009, 23:08 pm
#580 Sheriff: I want to help you sheriff…jy weet mos… you must make a meeting with lilith…I am sure she can help you also..moenie bang wees nie.. She just want to speak to you
23 Jun 2009, 23:11 pm
#585 rugbygenius: Straight jacket on it’s way – calm down now
23 Jun 2009, 23:13 pm
#586 Langenhoven:
Strict code not to meet keo bloggers in person.
What makes you think I will waive for that person, whom as you know, like yourself, has no integrity
You really need to catch a wake-up kaalkop
23 Jun 2009, 23:14 pm
#587 China: Calm down ? Bro ! Didnt you watch that game ! Everyone on ere has been slagging off Demas and Rose so badly , wishing bad things upon them . Every time I try and support Earl and Danny I get abused and called an idiot ! So to see them shine means more to me than life itself !
My wife is preggers .
Sons name = Danearl !
23 Jun 2009, 23:15 pm
#582 liefling:
He epitomises for me the vibe at WP; lots of hype but delivery not quite there
He looks more like a gymnast to me, to be fair …
23 Jun 2009, 23:18 pm
#589 rugbygenius: Congrats – reconsider the poor cild’s name though. How about mof muyburgh instead?
23 Jun 2009, 23:19 pm
child
23 Jun 2009, 23:21 pm
#589 rugbygenius:
Damn-well Demas’ rugby career will turn around the day he decides to change hair style
Is he Rastafarian?
23 Jun 2009, 23:22 pm
Take it easy fellas!
23 Jun 2009, 23:24 pm
#593 Sheriff: Danwell should return to 7′s – will be a hero again
23 Jun 2009, 23:27 pm
#591 China: Danearl is is mate ! The missus loves it ! It’s original ! We were gonna call him James . But Danearl is the new front runner !
#593 Sheriff: Not sure mate ! But that hair is so cool . He could be the David Beckham of SA rugby . My nephews all wanna get that hairstyle now ! Marketing should jump on this idea ! Danwell hair care ! Danwell T-Shirts ! Danwell Coffee mugs !
You would want a Danwell Demas Cap wouldnt you Sheriff ? And a Danwell Demas poster for your lounge ??
Danwell is so dreamy !
23 Jun 2009, 23:30 pm
#4 chch: No that’s the AB’s.
23 Jun 2009, 23:32 pm
#596 rugbygenius: Danearl it will be then, case closed. A child is such a blessing and i am sure Danearl will bring you much joy – God bless!
23 Jun 2009, 23:32 pm
#597 SjamBok: Ay ay ay ay ay ! Lets leave the jokes to me mate ! The ABs are the worlds greatest ever – and ever !
23 Jun 2009, 23:35 pm
#598 China: Thanks China ! Much appreaciated ! God Bless you too ! See you all here soon !
Sleep well people !
Congrats E. Bokke !
Congrats SA rugby !
Congrats Sione Lauaki !
23 Jun 2009, 23:35 pm
#597 SjamBok: chch in dreamland it seems -nightmares about the coming 3-nations
24 Jun 2009, 00:03 am
#347 rangerman: Ja that is Willems big failiong. He kicks it wAAAAY too much. I understand that he may be under team orders, but at the end of the day, he must still play what is in front of him. and if he spots a 3 man overlap surely he knows to play it. BUT the problem is that he never even looks – he just kicks.
24 Jun 2009, 07:45 am
and boy what a game but what i dont get is why was rose kicking when de waal came on? he is a known better kicker than rose to think if he took that kick then we could have won
24 Jun 2009, 08:15 am
The sad thing about the match is that they looked more dangerous when Generaal De Waal came on. Earl just isn’t a flyh…uh…rugbyplayer.
24 Jun 2009, 08:29 am
I can see why the Golden Lions moved Rose to fb, he jsut does not have the passing game, sure he ca nhandle short passes bu can’t pass accurately past meters, he needs gym time, he has vision and great timing with kicks, but his passing lets him down as well as his conditioning.
Not a bok, not by a long shot.
24 Jun 2009, 08:56 am
#602 SjamBok: South Africa keep producing flyhalfs like Wilem and Naas and Debeer. These guys are masters with the boot.
By the war Adams had a great game. He has learnt from Dupreez.
24 Jun 2009, 08:56 am
#583 Sheriff:
You might be right, Lawrence seemed to have eyes only for the Lions last w/e.
Imagine how much closer it would have been if he’d been watching the Boks too ?
You fellas seem to be wasting a hell of alot of energy celebrating a Draw ! NZ Maoris had already beaten the touring Lions at this stage.
Hey love all the complaints about the appalling weather too. Could have sworn those same people were mocking the ABs for their poor performance against France in conditions that were even worse….
Stunning kick from De Waal, balls of steel !
24 Jun 2009, 08:59 am
#607 WakaNathan:
shut up dude – your All Black team couldn’t even beat France who FYI were nowhere on the 6 nations….
24 Jun 2009, 09:06 am
#608 brains_trust:
yer right. Theyre a **** team aye.
Oh hang on. Didnt they beat France. In conditions that made this look like the Greek Islands ?
And they nilled your boys, at home, last time they played. 2-1 for ’08.
The Lions last pm selected 2 props who had, literally, just stepped off the plane.
24 Jun 2009, 10:05 am
Now, I am not a De Waal fan, and in fact I am am really sorry that he came to the Stormers as I believe he is holding the team’s development (and that of Grant) back. I consider him nothing more than an average, limited and somewhat pedestrian player.
But is it my imagination or did the backline look better, more cohesive and more dangerous when he replaced Rose? THAT says all there is to say about Rose, I am afraid. He is just not a good enough player at this level and I cant see him developing into one. He has had many chances to prove he can put it together, but he just doesnt. Sorry, you are the weakest link, goodbye
24 Jun 2009, 12:18 pm
#610 Stormfront: Ja man, I was also vloeking the guy in Stormers games, but i take it all back after that kick he landed last night
24 Jun 2009, 12:20 pm
#608 brains_trust: Brains – los that oke man, he is not worth it. Biggest doos on this site by a mile
24 Jun 2009, 13:41 pm
#612 bokfan1:
Love you too.
Moron.
24 Jun 2009, 13:59 pm
Watched it on replay three times!!! De Waal missed that kick.
24 Jun 2009, 14:00 pm
omw that game was AMAZING! When the Lions scored, I though: ****, here comes another 50 pointer BUT THEN Rose got that kick and we had a chance and then that try and then WILLEM! And omw it started raining and the pressure must have been HUGE! And it was on the touch line but he GOT IT! He is amazing!
24 Jun 2009, 14:45 pm
#614 ShaunS:
famously, the Boks were awarded a DG against NZ Maoris in the very last min in 1981 to earn themselves a draw. Replays showed the kick clearly missed ! And the Maoris, despite playing them OFF the park, just walked off completely non-plussed.
24 Jun 2009, 14:47 pm
#614 ShaunS:
I just watched it again. Somehow the camera didnt have the best angle but you may have a point. The flagsmen seemed to give each other a long look….
24 Jun 2009, 19:18 pm
#604 King Shark: Why when the big pressure was on did Rose run away? Pathetic
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