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		<title>By: TheTackler</title>
		<link>http://www.keo.co.za/2009/07/04/collisions-key-to-consolation-win/#comment-1349581</link>
		<dc:creator>TheTackler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 02:53:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1349526&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;10 Dubliner&lt;/a&gt;: Not too many dutchies at Tobruk itself, even if Klopper was in charge. Quentin Smythe of 2nd SAI Div won his VC during the preamble, and poor old Klopper had to do the job without proper minefields, anti-tank artillery or air cover thanks to the tentative nature of pom Generals Auchinleck and Ritchie.

Lots more dutchies were locked up in internment camps back home at bleak places like Koffiefontein for openly being Nazi sympathisers. Ex-PM and president Balthazar John Vorster was one such scoundrel.

(And the remaining SA soldiers serving up north who weren&#039;t whisked off after Tobruk served under Monty and made  a crucial contribution at winning El Alamein, thus ending Rommel&#039;s lovely run of good fortune.) 

They all served under that old orange-white-blue flag and were known by one and all of their allies as &quot;springboks&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#<a href="#comment-1349526" rel="nofollow">10 Dubliner</a>: Not too many dutchies at Tobruk itself, even if Klopper was in charge. Quentin Smythe of 2nd SAI Div won his VC during the preamble, and poor old Klopper had to do the job without proper minefields, anti-tank artillery or air cover thanks to the tentative nature of pom Generals Auchinleck and Ritchie.</p>
<p>Lots more dutchies were locked up in internment camps back home at bleak places like Koffiefontein for openly being Nazi sympathisers. Ex-PM and president Balthazar John Vorster was one such scoundrel.</p>
<p>(And the remaining SA soldiers serving up north who weren&#8217;t whisked off after Tobruk served under Monty and made  a crucial contribution at winning El Alamein, thus ending Rommel&#8217;s lovely run of good fortune.) </p>
<p>They all served under that old orange-white-blue flag and were known by one and all of their allies as &#8220;springboks&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: SjamBok</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 01:50:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Martybn williams had a real enforcer lock in support. Brussouw could steal on adefence, but could not hold the entire Liosn pack off by himself. The boks cleaning REALLY let them down tody. 

this was exaclty like the game Snor tried to play initially - where we got killed in the brakdowns. Maybe he thought that having Brussouw wil fix the problems. But Brussouw is a plus on defence - not in attack (although he gets some good yardage from slippery running in attack too).  The flaw in Snor&#039;s game plan is in not having enough players at teh ruck to clen to get quick recycling ball. The only way to ensure that you do have this is by telling the forwards where the first few phases are going to be, so that a sufficient number of them are there in support. They also need to have the cleaning out techniques down pat (clean from inside out).  The tackler must present the ball as well with BOTH hands.

It does not help that the ball carrier tries to stay on his feet until the support arrives- that is also giving time to the defence to regroup.  The ball carrier must get between tacklers and drive with is feet to make ground and stay on his feet until the support arrives.  

Our forwards to go ground WAAAAAY too quickly, and if they do stay on their feet, they get stopped in a maul situaton which then requires a LOT of support which negates the attack. This is why the forwards must receive the ball at speed, and use that speed in the right direction to make ground and keep the legs pumping. 

If the forwards are too spread outin the line, then they cannot be there to support en masse, and cleanout effectively.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Martybn williams had a real enforcer lock in support. Brussouw could steal on adefence, but could not hold the entire Liosn pack off by himself. The boks cleaning REALLY let them down tody. </p>
<p>this was exaclty like the game Snor tried to play initially &#8211; where we got killed in the brakdowns. Maybe he thought that having Brussouw wil fix the problems. But Brussouw is a plus on defence &#8211; not in attack (although he gets some good yardage from slippery running in attack too).  The flaw in Snor&#8217;s game plan is in not having enough players at teh ruck to clen to get quick recycling ball. The only way to ensure that you do have this is by telling the forwards where the first few phases are going to be, so that a sufficient number of them are there in support. They also need to have the cleaning out techniques down pat (clean from inside out).  The tackler must present the ball as well with BOTH hands.</p>
<p>It does not help that the ball carrier tries to stay on his feet until the support arrives- that is also giving time to the defence to regroup.  The ball carrier must get between tacklers and drive with is feet to make ground and stay on his feet until the support arrives.  </p>
<p>Our forwards to go ground WAAAAAY too quickly, and if they do stay on their feet, they get stopped in a maul situaton which then requires a LOT of support which negates the attack. This is why the forwards must receive the ball at speed, and use that speed in the right direction to make ground and keep the legs pumping. </p>
<p>If the forwards are too spread outin the line, then they cannot be there to support en masse, and cleanout effectively.</p>
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		<title>By: Dubliner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dubliner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 23:50:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1349444&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;7 sideline&lt;/a&gt;: 

Suck on it. I know, he knows, you know, we all know that he is right.

The Dutchies fancy themselves as &#039;gruntier&#039; than everyone else and being bossed by the Lions will have hurt their meat head pride.

Obviously the Germans at Tobruk didn&#039;t think much of the Dutchies, they thought they were softer than the Italians the way they dropped their rifles and surrended at the merest sight of a Nazi uniform.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#<a href="#comment-1349444" rel="nofollow">7 sideline</a>: </p>
<p>Suck on it. I know, he knows, you know, we all know that he is right.</p>
<p>The Dutchies fancy themselves as &#8216;gruntier&#8217; than everyone else and being bossed by the Lions will have hurt their meat head pride.</p>
<p>Obviously the Germans at Tobruk didn&#8217;t think much of the Dutchies, they thought they were softer than the Italians the way they dropped their rifles and surrended at the merest sight of a Nazi uniform.</p>
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		<title>By: sideline</title>
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		<dc:creator>sideline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 21:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tackler - you are using the engels version of an afrikaans idiom... whats wrong, have you forgotten you don&#039;t want to be a part of this team. hush now and go to sleep.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tackler &#8211; you are using the engels version of an afrikaans idiom&#8230; whats wrong, have you forgotten you don&#8217;t want to be a part of this team. hush now and go to sleep.</p>
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		<title>By: TheTackler</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheTackler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 21:29:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1349444&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;7 sideline&lt;/a&gt;: Toughen up. Don&#039;t be a cry-baby.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#<a href="#comment-1349444" rel="nofollow">7 sideline</a>: Toughen up. Don&#8217;t be a cry-baby.</p>
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		<title>By: sideline</title>
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		<dc:creator>sideline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 21:13:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tackler - there you go insulting people and cultures again with stereotypical nonsense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tackler &#8211; there you go insulting people and cultures again with stereotypical nonsense.</p>
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		<title>By: smallies72</title>
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		<dc:creator>smallies72</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 20:17:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jonny as a hooker you are suposed to be one of the bad asses of the pack,he is ok in the loose but is not aggresive enough he has the size but not the aggro.go and compare him with keith wood and see what i mean</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jonny as a hooker you are suposed to be one of the bad asses of the pack,he is ok in the loose but is not aggresive enough he has the size but not the aggro.go and compare him with keith wood and see what i mean</p>
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		<title>By: jonnymain</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 20:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1349351&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;3 smallies72&lt;/a&gt;: Harsh on Chili. I thought he was pretty physical when he was on, watching the match again now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#<a href="#comment-1349351" rel="nofollow">3 smallies72</a>: Harsh on Chili. I thought he was pretty physical when he was on, watching the match again now.</p>
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		<title>By: Sheriff</title>
		<link>http://www.keo.co.za/2009/07/04/collisions-key-to-consolation-win/#comment-1349358</link>
		<dc:creator>Sheriff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 19:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are they flying out tonight already?

‘Honestly, I’m happy about the win but I wish we were celebrating a series victory now, not celebrating a dead rubber win,’ he said. 

I wish, if only ... that sums it up.

There were 2 dead rubbers in this series: this game and the one in Mike Philip&#039;s back pocket</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are they flying out tonight already?</p>
<p>‘Honestly, I’m happy about the win but I wish we were celebrating a series victory now, not celebrating a dead rubber win,’ he said. </p>
<p>I wish, if only &#8230; that sums it up.</p>
<p>There were 2 dead rubbers in this series: this game and the one in Mike Philip&#8217;s back pocket</p>
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		<title>By: smallies72</title>
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		<dc:creator>smallies72</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 19:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it happens when you pic the likes of kanko chillie and muller they have no b@ls</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it happens when you pic the likes of kanko chillie and muller they have no b@ls</p>
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		<title>By: TheTackler</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheTackler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 19:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comprehensive outdone up front by those British and Irish &quot;souties&quot;, hey? That&#039;s a huge kick in the guts for the dutchies, who fancifully fancy themselves as always being that much gruntier!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comprehensive outdone up front by those British and Irish &#8220;souties&#8221;, hey? That&#8217;s a huge kick in the guts for the dutchies, who fancifully fancy themselves as always being that much gruntier!</p>
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		<title>By: smallies72</title>
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		<dc:creator>smallies72</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 19:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>brussow had no support from his pack</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>brussow had no support from his pack</p>
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