Comments on: Shaw cited http://www.keo.co.za/2009/07/04/shaw-cited/ An independent look at South African rugby Mon, 15 Mar 2010 06:27:11 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: Bul-a-Bhloo http://www.keo.co.za/2009/07/04/shaw-cited/#comment-1351728 Bul-a-Bhloo Mon, 06 Jul 2009 16:52:55 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=35995#comment-1351728 #<a href="#comment-1351723" rel="nofollow">69 BlackPanther</a>: Everything G10 says has one common thread....Coaching. The players only take over when a coach can run the show. #69 BlackPanther: Everything G10 says has one common thread….Coaching.

The players only take over when a coach can run the show.

]]> By: BlackPanther http://www.keo.co.za/2009/07/04/shaw-cited/#comment-1351723 BlackPanther Mon, 06 Jul 2009 16:39:02 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=35995#comment-1351723 #<a href="#comment-1349738" rel="nofollow">57 grant10</a>: Can you hear me clapping ? sorry, I'll do it louder. Must say, the JUSTICE armbands were appallingly inappropriate at the end of a week accusing the Lions of whinging and the Burger eye-gouging. Really poor. And any neutral here who has made this same point has been ritually abused. WTF ?! So once more I applaud you. #57 grant10:

Can you hear me clapping ?

sorry, I’ll do it louder.

Must say, the JUSTICE armbands were appallingly inappropriate at the end of a week accusing the Lions of whinging and the Burger eye-gouging. Really poor. And any neutral here who has made this same point has been ritually abused. WTF ?!

So once more I applaud you.

]]> By: norman http://www.keo.co.za/2009/07/04/shaw-cited/#comment-1351186 norman Mon, 06 Jul 2009 10:54:53 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=35995#comment-1351186 the tackler;i agree with you on the arm bands but critisising the boere is not on and telling people how to spel is also not on. you are a laugh a minute and for that i thank you the tackler;i agree with you on the arm bands but critisising
the boere is not on and telling people how to spel is also not on.
you are a laugh a minute and for that i thank you

]]> By: smallies72 http://www.keo.co.za/2009/07/04/shaw-cited/#comment-1349909 smallies72 Sun, 05 Jul 2009 12:27:02 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=35995#comment-1349909 wonder waars my chomma tackletjies vandag sit seker sy woordeboek en deurlees.al wat ek vir hom wil se is ek het vandag gebraai met k@k hout wat uit k@k sa kom en het k@k vleis van k@k sa geeet met k@k wors en k@k aartappels met k@k mielies en dit was k@k lekker want ek is 'n boerseun en ek kan.want die son skyn hier.en dis 20 gr celcius in die winter. wonder waars my chomma tackletjies vandag sit seker sy woordeboek en deurlees.al wat ek vir hom wil se is ek het vandag gebraai met k@k hout wat uit k@k sa kom en het k@k vleis van k@k sa geeet met k@k wors en k@k aartappels met k@k mielies
en dit was k@k lekker want ek is ‘n boerseun en ek kan.want die son skyn hier.en dis 20 gr celcius in die winter.

]]> By: kevhar http://www.keo.co.za/2009/07/04/shaw-cited/#comment-1349883 kevhar Sun, 05 Jul 2009 12:03:41 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=35995#comment-1349883 #<a href="#comment-1349515" rel="nofollow">32 Dubliner</a>: Next time wait till you're sober before you post, you chop. Too many firken Guinnesses I assume. What the hell do inbred dutchment have to do with anything anyway. You're a loser.... #32 Dubliner: Next time wait till you’re sober before you post, you chop. Too many firken Guinnesses I assume. What the hell do inbred dutchment have to do with anything anyway. You’re a loser….

]]> By: carol http://www.keo.co.za/2009/07/04/shaw-cited/#comment-1349770 carol Sun, 05 Jul 2009 09:18:52 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=35995#comment-1349770 #<a href="#comment-1349766" rel="nofollow">63 grant10</a>: I'm out now too...cheers have a great day down in Clifton, love to the blonde!! #63 grant10: I’m out now too…cheers have a great day down in Clifton, love to the blonde!!

]]> By: boktoinfinityandbeyond http://www.keo.co.za/2009/07/04/shaw-cited/#comment-1349767 boktoinfinityandbeyond Sun, 05 Jul 2009 09:16:06 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=35995#comment-1349767 #<a href="#comment-1349738" rel="nofollow">57 grant10</a>: Jannie du Plessis #57 grant10:
Jannie du Plessis

]]> By: grant10 http://www.keo.co.za/2009/07/04/shaw-cited/#comment-1349766 grant10 Sun, 05 Jul 2009 09:15:22 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=35995#comment-1349766 #<a href="#comment-1349762" rel="nofollow">62 carol</a>: ditto.....till later #62 carol: ditto…..till later

]]> By: carol http://www.keo.co.za/2009/07/04/shaw-cited/#comment-1349762 carol Sun, 05 Jul 2009 09:09:50 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=35995#comment-1349762 #<a href="#comment-1349749" rel="nofollow">61 grant10</a>: Yip, the fans have had a GREAT time, and I have not heard of anyone who did not have a wonderful tour and of course ours was made extra special by meeting you Cape Town Saffas and the Pretoria Saffas... Missing you all by the way.... #61 grant10: Yip, the fans have had a GREAT time, and I have not heard of anyone who did not have a wonderful tour and of course ours was made extra special by meeting you Cape Town Saffas and the Pretoria Saffas…

Missing you all by the way….

]]> By: grant10 http://www.keo.co.za/2009/07/04/shaw-cited/#comment-1349749 grant10 Sun, 05 Jul 2009 08:58:24 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=35995#comment-1349749 #<a href="#comment-1349746" rel="nofollow">60 carol</a>: yes....sad that a lot of foul play and controversy surrounded the tour really...at least the fans had a great time and hopefully enjoyed the saffas....at least off the field! #60 carol: yes….sad that a lot of foul play and controversy surrounded the tour really…at least the fans had a great time and hopefully enjoyed the saffas….at least off the field!

]]> By: carol http://www.keo.co.za/2009/07/04/shaw-cited/#comment-1349746 carol Sun, 05 Jul 2009 08:55:33 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=35995#comment-1349746 #<a href="#comment-1349744" rel="nofollow">59 grant10</a>: Sounds fun, great wedding too, but highlight of today will be going to Carl and Gillies to watch our boys actually WIN!!! Despite the ups and downs I have really enjoyed the whole Lions experience.. #59 grant10: Sounds fun, great wedding too, but highlight of today will be going to Carl and Gillies to watch our boys actually WIN!!!

Despite the ups and downs I have really enjoyed the whole Lions experience..

]]> By: grant10 http://www.keo.co.za/2009/07/04/shaw-cited/#comment-1349744 grant10 Sun, 05 Jul 2009 08:47:52 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=35995#comment-1349744 #<a href="#comment-1349743" rel="nofollow">58 carol</a>: and deservedly so....had a cool day with tassies and the Durban folk....went for fish n chips at meariner wharf after game...really stunning....next time you down i will take you there....hope wedding was great....and tell mark and richard congrats....an immense performannce by Lions ... #58 carol: and deservedly so….had a cool day with tassies and the Durban folk….went for fish n chips at meariner wharf after game…really stunning….next time you down i will take you there….hope wedding was great….and tell mark and richard congrats….an immense performannce by Lions …

]]> By: carol http://www.keo.co.za/2009/07/04/shaw-cited/#comment-1349743 carol Sun, 05 Jul 2009 08:45:09 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=35995#comment-1349743 #<a href="#comment-1349738" rel="nofollow">57 grant10</a>: Hi Grant, a huge thank you for your texts during the match.....There we were in a tiny little Cotswold Church waiting for the bride with blokes whispering "wass the score now"....thanks for keeping us in the loop!! Heheheh THEN WE WON......YEE HAAAA... #57 grant10: Hi Grant, a huge thank you for your texts during the match…..There we were in a tiny little Cotswold Church waiting for the bride with blokes whispering “wass the score now”….thanks for keeping us in the loop!! Heheheh

THEN WE WON……YEE HAAAA…

]]> By: grant10 http://www.keo.co.za/2009/07/04/shaw-cited/#comment-1349738 grant10 Sun, 05 Jul 2009 08:39:38 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=35995#comment-1349738 Havent read no posts but heres my bit for what its worth 1...The refusal of boks to put arm over protea when singing anthem...... 2....The armband yesterday 3 ....the schalk and many other incidents of foul play 4...the poor public relations enjoyed with the overseas and local press.... 4 ...the absolute stupidity in trying to convert J Smit into a test 3 ..... 5....the refusal to entertain the credentials of boks playing overseas.... All of above leaves me to belieeve that the B Lions series has been rather unsuccessful ,except for the 2 to 1 victory. I said before that the discipline remains the PDV accountability. The team is just doing its own thing....PDV has to come down hard on these transgressors, including H Brussow who unneccessarily got involved with off the ball scuffles. Certainly some players reputations took a major knock yesterday. PDV will now know that J Smit must revert to hooker. The stupid experiment must stop now. CJ or BJ must be brought into the set up. A real heart to heart with Matfield, J Smit nad a few others needs to be done. Are they totally committed to 2011 ? If so then retain them....if not....start the search for able replacements today....give us a couple of years to blood them prior to 2011. The overall series was a regression....we were fortunate to win....no doubts about that ....the 7 to 5 test count a clear indicator. A lot of hard work awaits PDV,MUIR AND GOLD..... The Aussies and All Blacks loom large.....forward planning from today very nb......those talks to old hands like juan,matfield,j smit need to be done..... Congrats Lions, a superb display and a reality check for all saffas. Havent read no posts but heres my bit for what its worth

1…The refusal of boks to put arm over protea when singing anthem……

2….The armband yesterday

3 ….the schalk and many other incidents of foul play

4…the poor public relations enjoyed with the overseas and local press….

4 …the absolute stupidity in trying to convert J Smit into a test 3 …..

5….the refusal to entertain the credentials of boks playing overseas….

All of above leaves me to belieeve that the B Lions series has been rather unsuccessful ,except for the 2 to 1 victory.

I said before that the discipline remains the PDV accountability. The team is just doing its own thing….PDV has to come down hard on these transgressors, including H Brussow who unneccessarily got involved with off the ball scuffles.

Certainly some players reputations took a major knock yesterday. PDV will now know that J Smit must revert to hooker. The stupid experiment must stop now.

CJ or BJ must be brought into the set up.

A real heart to heart with Matfield, J Smit nad a few others needs to be done. Are they totally committed to 2011 ? If so then retain them….if not….start the search for able replacements today….give us a couple of years to blood them prior to 2011.

The overall series was a regression….we were fortunate to win….no doubts about that ….the 7 to 5 test count a clear indicator.

A lot of hard work awaits PDV,MUIR AND GOLD…..

The Aussies and All Blacks loom large…..forward planning from today very nb……those talks to old hands like juan,matfield,j smit need to be done…..

Congrats Lions, a superb display and a reality check for all saffas.

]]> By: Puma http://www.keo.co.za/2009/07/04/shaw-cited/#comment-1349735 Puma Sun, 05 Jul 2009 08:32:32 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=35995#comment-1349735 Hope he gets a 6 week ban. He went straight in to the back of Fourie in the Kidney area. Hope he gets a 6 week ban. He went straight in to the back of Fourie in the Kidney area.

]]> By: KingPaul http://www.keo.co.za/2009/07/04/shaw-cited/#comment-1349734 KingPaul Sun, 05 Jul 2009 08:32:07 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=35995#comment-1349734 #54 TheTackler: More Tackler Wat is jou g@t weer so suur vanoggend? Verlang jy weer vandag teveel terug na jou moederland? Moenie worrie nie, ons weet dis k@k in “sk@pst3kerl@nd” en dat jy eitlik nie kan wag om terug te wees tussen jou eie mense nie! #54 TheTackler: More Tackler
Wat is jou g@t weer so suur vanoggend? Verlang jy weer vandag teveel terug na jou moederland? Moenie worrie nie, ons weet dis k@k in “sk@pst3kerl@nd” en dat jy eitlik nie kan wag om terug te wees tussen jou eie mense nie!

]]> By: TheTackler http://www.keo.co.za/2009/07/04/shaw-cited/#comment-1349729 TheTackler Sun, 05 Jul 2009 08:25:43 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=35995#comment-1349729 They'll all be cited for "bringing the game into disrepute" for wearing those dumb armbands and cop a 4 week ban. That should put an even bigger self-inflicted hole in the leaky SA 3N canoe... They’ll all be cited for “bringing the game into disrepute” for wearing those dumb armbands and cop a 4 week ban. That should put an even bigger self-inflicted hole in the leaky SA 3N canoe…

]]> By: cambok http://www.keo.co.za/2009/07/04/shaw-cited/#comment-1349728 cambok Sun, 05 Jul 2009 08:23:09 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=35995#comment-1349728 Earlier today I suggested that because Shaw is getting close to retirement age, he should be finsed 5,000 pounds rather than suspended. I still stand by that but as it's since emerged that he received a red card for dropping a knee onto a NZ forward in 2004, Shaw clearly has "form" in terms of this offence. I'd therefore give him a fine of 10,000 pounds Earlier today I suggested that because Shaw is getting close to retirement age, he should be finsed 5,000 pounds rather than suspended. I still stand by that but as it’s since emerged that he received a red card for dropping a knee onto a NZ forward in 2004, Shaw clearly has “form” in terms of this offence. I’d therefore give him a fine of 10,000 pounds

]]> By: SjamBok http://www.keo.co.za/2009/07/04/shaw-cited/#comment-1349722 SjamBok Sun, 05 Jul 2009 08:13:29 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=35995#comment-1349722 I''m surprised half the Bok team weren't cited for clearing a ruck, and the other half for hand-ball... I”m surprised half the Bok team weren’t cited for clearing a ruck, and the other half for hand-ball…

]]> By: jonnymain http://www.keo.co.za/2009/07/04/shaw-cited/#comment-1349666 jonnymain Sun, 05 Jul 2009 07:11:31 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=35995#comment-1349666 #<a href="#comment-1349641" rel="nofollow">49 rich1</a>: So what length should the ban be to satisfy you? I'm betting on 2 weeks myself. #49 rich1: So what length should the ban be to satisfy you?

I’m betting on 2 weeks myself.

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