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		<title>By: mars_net</title>
		<link>http://www.keo.co.za/2009/07/05/indiscipline-endemic-to-anarchy/#comment-1353604</link>
		<dc:creator>mars_net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 07:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For all the delusional JWhite cheerleaders including KEO, maybe u need to look at the Boks record in the 21 matches b4 2007 RWC and then tell us how great a team they were:

AB 	33 Boks 6     L	
Aus 	25 Boks 17    L 	
Boks 	21 AB 	26    L	
Boks 	22 Aus 	19    W	
Boks 	35 Sam 	8     W
Boks 	55 Eng 	22    W 	
Boks 	58 Eng 	10    W	
W XV 	7  Boks 32    W	
Eng 	14 Boks 25    W	
Eng 	23 Boks 21    L 	
Ire 	32 Boks 15    L	
Boks 	24 Aus 	16    W	
Boks 	21 AB 	20    W	
Boks 	26 AB 	45    L	
Aus 	20 Boks 18    L	
AB 	35 Boks 17    L	
Aus 	49 Boks 0     L	
Boks 	26 Fra 	36    L
Boks 	29 Scot 15    W	
Boks 	36 Scot 16    W 	
Boks 	30 W XV 27    W	

Thats 11 wins and 10 losses. Thats a 52% win ratio.
U need to stop making out JW to be such a great coach whereas the numbers tell us otherwise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For all the delusional JWhite cheerleaders including KEO, maybe u need to look at the Boks record in the 21 matches b4 2007 RWC and then tell us how great a team they were:</p>
<p>AB 	33 Boks 6     L<br />
Aus 	25 Boks 17    L<br />
Boks 	21 AB 	26    L<br />
Boks 	22 Aus 	19    W<br />
Boks 	35 Sam 	8     W<br />
Boks 	55 Eng 	22    W<br />
Boks 	58 Eng 	10    W<br />
W XV 	7  Boks 32    W<br />
Eng 	14 Boks 25    W<br />
Eng 	23 Boks 21    L<br />
Ire 	32 Boks 15    L<br />
Boks 	24 Aus 	16    W<br />
Boks 	21 AB 	20    W<br />
Boks 	26 AB 	45    L<br />
Aus 	20 Boks 18    L<br />
AB 	35 Boks 17    L<br />
Aus 	49 Boks 0     L<br />
Boks 	26 Fra 	36    L<br />
Boks 	29 Scot 15    W<br />
Boks 	36 Scot 16    W<br />
Boks 	30 W XV 27    W	</p>
<p>Thats 11 wins and 10 losses. Thats a 52% win ratio.<br />
U need to stop making out JW to be such a great coach whereas the numbers tell us otherwise.</p>
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		<title>By: BlackPanther</title>
		<link>http://www.keo.co.za/2009/07/05/indiscipline-endemic-to-anarchy/#comment-1351737</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 17:31:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1351379&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;449 Pietman&lt;/a&gt;: 

They must be doubly annoying when they are right too....

“The IRBInternational Rugby Board have charged the South African Rugby Union after the Springboks wore armbands during the Third Test defeat to the British and Irish Lions on Saturday as a symbol of solidarity for Bakkies Botha.

The protest occurred aftr the upholding of Botha’s two-week suspension by an independent Appeal Committee for dangerously charging into a ruck without binding on a player. 

The IRB have pressed charges for alleged Misconduct in breach of the IRB Regulations Relating to the Game including breaches of the IRB Code of Conduct. 

The IRB takes the view that such an act demonstrates a clear disregard of the disciplinary process and does so in a manner which brings, or has the potential to bring, the Game into disrepute. 

The IRB has notified the South Africa Rugby Union that it intends to begin the disciplinary proceedings. The matter will now be referred to the independent Judicial Panel Chairman who will appoint a Judicial Officer or Committee. 

Botha was banned for two weeks for the second-half charge in the Springboks nailbiting second Test victory over the Lions - which gave them the series - on Adam Jones that left the Welsh prop needing corrective surgery to right a dislocated shoulder. 

The Springbok and Lions coaching staff, as well as Jones, have insisted that they saw nothing untoward in the second-rower’s charge, arguing he had merely been clearing a ruck. 

“As a sign of solidarity the Springbok players decided to wear white arm bands during the Test match,” said Piet Heymans, head of the South African Rugby Players Association (SARPA). 

“At the same time the players want to send a clear message that they require the IRB to have an urgent and serious relook at Law 10.4 (j).”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#<a href="#comment-1351379" rel="nofollow">449 Pietman</a>: </p>
<p>They must be doubly annoying when they are right too&#8230;.</p>
<p>“The IRBInternational Rugby Board have charged the South African Rugby Union after the Springboks wore armbands during the Third Test defeat to the British and Irish Lions on Saturday as a symbol of solidarity for Bakkies Botha.</p>
<p>The protest occurred aftr the upholding of Botha’s two-week suspension by an independent Appeal Committee for dangerously charging into a ruck without binding on a player. </p>
<p>The IRB have pressed charges for alleged Misconduct in breach of the IRB Regulations Relating to the Game including breaches of the IRB Code of Conduct. </p>
<p>The IRB takes the view that such an act demonstrates a clear disregard of the disciplinary process and does so in a manner which brings, or has the potential to bring, the Game into disrepute. </p>
<p>The IRB has notified the South Africa Rugby Union that it intends to begin the disciplinary proceedings. The matter will now be referred to the independent Judicial Panel Chairman who will appoint a Judicial Officer or Committee. </p>
<p>Botha was banned for two weeks for the second-half charge in the Springboks nailbiting second Test victory over the Lions &#8211; which gave them the series &#8211; on Adam Jones that left the Welsh prop needing corrective surgery to right a dislocated shoulder. </p>
<p>The Springbok and Lions coaching staff, as well as Jones, have insisted that they saw nothing untoward in the second-rower’s charge, arguing he had merely been clearing a ruck. </p>
<p>“As a sign of solidarity the Springbok players decided to wear white arm bands during the Test match,” said Piet Heymans, head of the South African Rugby Players Association (SARPA). </p>
<p>“At the same time the players want to send a clear message that they require the IRB to have an urgent and serious relook at Law 10.4 (j).”</p>
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		<title>By: BlackPanther</title>
		<link>http://www.keo.co.za/2009/07/05/indiscipline-endemic-to-anarchy/#comment-1351668</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 15:49:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1351379&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;449 Pietman&lt;/a&gt;: 

Perhaps he has a brain and 2 eyes ?

who is &#039;we&#039; ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#<a href="#comment-1351379" rel="nofollow">449 Pietman</a>: </p>
<p>Perhaps he has a brain and 2 eyes ?</p>
<p>who is &#8216;we&#8217; ?</p>
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		<title>By: Pietman</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 13:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1350808&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;444 Thucydides&lt;/a&gt;: 
Just one question please, why are you still talking to this oke?
We have all given up on him some time ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#<a href="#comment-1350808" rel="nofollow">444 Thucydides</a>:<br />
Just one question please, why are you still talking to this oke?<br />
We have all given up on him some time ago.</p>
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		<title>By: Slumtown</title>
		<link>http://www.keo.co.za/2009/07/05/indiscipline-endemic-to-anarchy/#comment-1351373</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 12:59:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indiscipline wasnt only coach related. I honestly believe the Lions played some darn dirty rugby and were cheating wherever and whenever they could. I have never seen players like Habana and Pierre Spies have a good go in fights. But this series they were livid. All the fights started from underhanded skullduggery by the Lions. If you ask my they were very negative and unsporting. You always have niggles but these 3 tests have actually left a really bad taste in the mouth.
I also believe they got more of a chance at winning due to their underhanded tactics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indiscipline wasnt only coach related. I honestly believe the Lions played some darn dirty rugby and were cheating wherever and whenever they could. I have never seen players like Habana and Pierre Spies have a good go in fights. But this series they were livid. All the fights started from underhanded skullduggery by the Lions. If you ask my they were very negative and unsporting. You always have niggles but these 3 tests have actually left a really bad taste in the mouth.<br />
I also believe they got more of a chance at winning due to their underhanded tactics.</p>
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		<title>By: green_and_gold</title>
		<link>http://www.keo.co.za/2009/07/05/indiscipline-endemic-to-anarchy/#comment-1351371</link>
		<dc:creator>green_and_gold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 12:58:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>not a very accurate summary in my opinion.

The Lions have been by far the more indisciplined side.
Their was very clearly an intent to get under the skin of the bok players... in particular Bismarck and bakkies...
BOD taking a swing at bismarck in the first test... Phillips taking swings at any player he could....

FACT
the Lions conceded probably 50% more penalties than the boks for &quot;dangerous or foul play&quot; i will get the exact figures shortly.

so this article is far from the truth. the truth is, the constant niggling and aggro tactics from the lions caused (rightly or wrongly) reactions from some of our players.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>not a very accurate summary in my opinion.</p>
<p>The Lions have been by far the more indisciplined side.<br />
Their was very clearly an intent to get under the skin of the bok players&#8230; in particular Bismarck and bakkies&#8230;<br />
BOD taking a swing at bismarck in the first test&#8230; Phillips taking swings at any player he could&#8230;.</p>
<p>FACT<br />
the Lions conceded probably 50% more penalties than the boks for &#8220;dangerous or foul play&#8221; i will get the exact figures shortly.</p>
<p>so this article is far from the truth. the truth is, the constant niggling and aggro tactics from the lions caused (rightly or wrongly) reactions from some of our players.</p>
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		<title>By: Hurricane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hurricane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 12:19:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1349970&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;241 goyougoodthing2&lt;/a&gt;: 
Again you are clueless.Read the whole thread and stop being a bitch,it was a joke.Next time you are on i will carry this on as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#<a href="#comment-1349970" rel="nofollow">241 goyougoodthing2</a>:<br />
Again you are clueless.Read the whole thread and stop being a bitch,it was a joke.Next time you are on i will carry this on as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Hurricane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hurricane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 12:14:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1349940&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;211 goyougoodthing2&lt;/a&gt;: 
didnt say NZ wasnt or was racist at all.Did you notice the smiley face,just having a joke but if you want to get all serious on it i am keen.
So here we are a South African telling me about  what my people are going through,i am Maori by the way.You have got it so wrong i think you should just keep right out of it.Maori land was taken away from them,i dont understand how you can say the forests were not there 150 years ago,sure as hell building werent there.The government sighned a treaty and went back on some of those claims.The Maori after 100 odd years have decided enough is enough and did something about it.
OK we do have a government party that supports Maori,but its just not Maori that hold those seats.We in NZ have realised that we are doing things differently but we have never been through what SA have been through with race,so maybe we are doing things right
Fishing rights is for the Iwi that belongs to that land/sea,easy.
Maori have stood up for what they believe in and in NZ they have been heard.As you know not all countries want to listen to anything that isnt there own colour.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#<a href="#comment-1349940" rel="nofollow">211 goyougoodthing2</a>:<br />
didnt say NZ wasnt or was racist at all.Did you notice the smiley face,just having a joke but if you want to get all serious on it i am keen.<br />
So here we are a South African telling me about  what my people are going through,i am Maori by the way.You have got it so wrong i think you should just keep right out of it.Maori land was taken away from them,i dont understand how you can say the forests were not there 150 years ago,sure as hell building werent there.The government sighned a treaty and went back on some of those claims.The Maori after 100 odd years have decided enough is enough and did something about it.<br />
OK we do have a government party that supports Maori,but its just not Maori that hold those seats.We in NZ have realised that we are doing things differently but we have never been through what SA have been through with race,so maybe we are doing things right<br />
Fishing rights is for the Iwi that belongs to that land/sea,easy.<br />
Maori have stood up for what they believe in and in NZ they have been heard.As you know not all countries want to listen to anything that isnt there own colour.</p>
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		<title>By: Thucydides</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thucydides</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 08:26:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1350739&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;443 WakaNathan&lt;/a&gt;: 

On current form, I&#039;d back the Lions to win the World Fingerpointing Championships, but not by much ... Saffas are bound to be very competitive, given the incredible experience and talent at their disposal :-) Mind you, on the rare occassions when the All Blacks lose a game of rugby, you lot are pretty adept at the whinging part as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#<a href="#comment-1350739" rel="nofollow">443 WakaNathan</a>: </p>
<p>On current form, I&#8217;d back the Lions to win the World Fingerpointing Championships, but not by much &#8230; Saffas are bound to be very competitive, given the incredible experience and talent at their disposal <img src='http://www.keo.co.za/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  Mind you, on the rare occassions when the All Blacks lose a game of rugby, you lot are pretty adept at the whinging part as well.</p>
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		<title>By: WakaNathan</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 07:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1350503&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;441 Thucydides&lt;/a&gt;: 

You dont need to imagine what its like if Aus win, after any SA loss its like the World Fingerpointing Championships.

#&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1350559&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;442 poppa69&lt;/a&gt;: 

Yes, of course the ultimate rugby rivallry is SA, the Bokke. But the Bledisloe is massive and its own unique atmosphere with Aussies and Kiwis being culturally similar whereas I sometimes feel as if SA &amp; NZ only have rugby as a connection as otherwise I feel we are very different people. It has also helped that SA is now strong again because they have taken a while post-isolation to get back to their old high standards. With rugby, NZers only gain respect for the opposition thru a loss and perhaps this is the year the Boks finally get under NZs skin with a &#039;series&#039; win. Until then, its all talk. Lots of it.

Despite what these locals say however, I would rather the Safas win than the Aussies, every time. I flew to the RWC Final, did not sell my ticket for huge sums, and supported the Boks to their win. Funny, they take objective criticism SO personally but its just sport at the end of the day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#<a href="#comment-1350503" rel="nofollow">441 Thucydides</a>: </p>
<p>You dont need to imagine what its like if Aus win, after any SA loss its like the World Fingerpointing Championships.</p>
<p>#<a href="#comment-1350559" rel="nofollow">442 poppa69</a>: </p>
<p>Yes, of course the ultimate rugby rivallry is SA, the Bokke. But the Bledisloe is massive and its own unique atmosphere with Aussies and Kiwis being culturally similar whereas I sometimes feel as if SA &amp; NZ only have rugby as a connection as otherwise I feel we are very different people. It has also helped that SA is now strong again because they have taken a while post-isolation to get back to their old high standards. With rugby, NZers only gain respect for the opposition thru a loss and perhaps this is the year the Boks finally get under NZs skin with a &#8217;series&#8217; win. Until then, its all talk. Lots of it.</p>
<p>Despite what these locals say however, I would rather the Safas win than the Aussies, every time. I flew to the RWC Final, did not sell my ticket for huge sums, and supported the Boks to their win. Funny, they take objective criticism SO personally but its just sport at the end of the day.</p>
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		<title>By: kesbok</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 05:38:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having sat back and given PDV the benefit of the doubt for this series I am deeply concerned going into the Tri Nations. We have PDv up against Deans and Henry. Need we say more. I do support PDV for all his good intentions and the fact that he has been given one of the most difficult jobs in rugby with very little experience. The fact is he is just not up to it. It has been a long time since I saw a Bok team like that fold especially at Ellis Park. The reality here is that the Boks have been flirting with danger the whole series. In both test the Boks won by the skin of their teeth and you have to be bloody blind to think any other way. A win is a win but given what the Lions had to offer and their firepower we should have won very comfortably and most certiantly should
have whitewashed the Lions on thhe back of the quality of palyer and depth we have.PDv has been lucky this time - unfortunately his luck is about to run out in the Tri nations.

The average SA Rugby supporter know crap when they see it. This team lacks innovation and discipline - we all know that if we play like we did in the Lions series we won&#039;t win the tri nations when we have the players to do it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having sat back and given PDV the benefit of the doubt for this series I am deeply concerned going into the Tri Nations. We have PDv up against Deans and Henry. Need we say more. I do support PDV for all his good intentions and the fact that he has been given one of the most difficult jobs in rugby with very little experience. The fact is he is just not up to it. It has been a long time since I saw a Bok team like that fold especially at Ellis Park. The reality here is that the Boks have been flirting with danger the whole series. In both test the Boks won by the skin of their teeth and you have to be bloody blind to think any other way. A win is a win but given what the Lions had to offer and their firepower we should have won very comfortably and most certiantly should<br />
have whitewashed the Lions on thhe back of the quality of palyer and depth we have.PDv has been lucky this time &#8211; unfortunately his luck is about to run out in the Tri nations.</p>
<p>The average SA Rugby supporter know crap when they see it. This team lacks innovation and discipline &#8211; we all know that if we play like we did in the Lions series we won&#8217;t win the tri nations when we have the players to do it.</p>
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		<title>By: poppa69</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 23:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1350463&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;438 WakaNathan&lt;/a&gt;: agreed, footys magic... but the greatest moment to me in the footy was in 96, when we returned to SA after losing in 95 and finally winning a series there...

to me, Aus are indeed a fierce rival in any sport, but in rugby they have only really been competitive with us since the late 80s, when we helped their rugby survive...whereas SA have been competitive throughout our rugby history with them... a marked difference IMO...

and I dont feel the same rivalry with the SA cricket team either, but us kiwis always delight in beating the Aussies, at any sport... them vice versa..which to me makes a mockery of the whole reffing alliance...both nations too proud to collude with the enemy across the ditch

for me, the ultimate is always the Boks, too much history to surpass for me....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#<a href="#comment-1350463" rel="nofollow">438 WakaNathan</a>: agreed, footys magic&#8230; but the greatest moment to me in the footy was in 96, when we returned to SA after losing in 95 and finally winning a series there&#8230;</p>
<p>to me, Aus are indeed a fierce rival in any sport, but in rugby they have only really been competitive with us since the late 80s, when we helped their rugby survive&#8230;whereas SA have been competitive throughout our rugby history with them&#8230; a marked difference IMO&#8230;</p>
<p>and I dont feel the same rivalry with the SA cricket team either, but us kiwis always delight in beating the Aussies, at any sport&#8230; them vice versa..which to me makes a mockery of the whole reffing alliance&#8230;both nations too proud to collude with the enemy across the ditch</p>
<p>for me, the ultimate is always the Boks, too much history to surpass for me&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Thucydides</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 21:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1350463&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;438 WakaNathan&lt;/a&gt;: 

I am probably too far on the wrong side of 30 to still qualify as &quot;sonny&quot;, but petty details like my age aside, I am glad to hear you think I&#039;ve got the potential to go far around here:-)Then again, not quite sure whether it is much of an achievement to go far on Keo.co.za...

PS - Arguably, one only needs one eye and half a brain to notice that South Africans can whinge with the worst of them... I hate to think what this site will be like if the Aussies win the 3N.(Which is where I&#039;d put my money this year, if I was a betting man.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#<a href="#comment-1350463" rel="nofollow">438 WakaNathan</a>: </p>
<p>I am probably too far on the wrong side of 30 to still qualify as &#8220;sonny&#8221;, but petty details like my age aside, I am glad to hear you think I&#8217;ve got the potential to go far around here:-)Then again, not quite sure whether it is much of an achievement to go far on Keo.co.za&#8230;</p>
<p>PS &#8211; Arguably, one only needs one eye and half a brain to notice that South Africans can whinge with the worst of them&#8230; I hate to think what this site will be like if the Aussies win the 3N.(Which is where I&#8217;d put my money this year, if I was a betting man.)</p>
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		<title>By: fish out of water</title>
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		<dc:creator>fish out of water</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 20:25:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jc,

you are giving far to much credit to pdv by calling him a second rate coach - he is at least a 4th rate if not 5th rate coach.

farking useless and saru will probably keep the village idiot in his job because he was the affirmative action choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jc,</p>
<p>you are giving far to much credit to pdv by calling him a second rate coach &#8211; he is at least a 4th rate if not 5th rate coach.</p>
<p>farking useless and saru will probably keep the village idiot in his job because he was the affirmative action choice.</p>
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		<title>By: WakaNathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>WakaNathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 20:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1349960&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;232 cab&lt;/a&gt;: 

&#039;constructive criticism of the whinging&#039;

I mean, are you for real ?!


JUSTICE

#&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1349990&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;260 Thucydides&lt;/a&gt;: 

oh my God.

One amidst the millions !


Both eyes - check

Both ears - check

A brain - check.


Sonny, youre either gonna go far or not very far around here at all. Switch lasers to stun.

#&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1350011&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;279 poppa69&lt;/a&gt;: 

Strictly and solely in a rugby sense tho .I think Kiwis are still more emotionally involved in matches vs Australia. For me there are 3 trophies - RWC, Bledisloe, TriN - in that order. And Ranfurly Shield for the purists.

I dont feel a rivallry with SA in cricket for example. Whereas even tho Aus are stronger, it still hurts losing to them.

But clearly, our 2 greatest rivals in rugby are SA &amp; Aus with les Triclors looming as the Nemesis.

Footy. Great innit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#<a href="#comment-1349960" rel="nofollow">232 cab</a>: </p>
<p>&#8216;constructive criticism of the whinging&#8217;</p>
<p>I mean, are you for real ?!</p>
<p>JUSTICE</p>
<p>#<a href="#comment-1349990" rel="nofollow">260 Thucydides</a>: </p>
<p>oh my God.</p>
<p>One amidst the millions !</p>
<p>Both eyes &#8211; check</p>
<p>Both ears &#8211; check</p>
<p>A brain &#8211; check.</p>
<p>Sonny, youre either gonna go far or not very far around here at all. Switch lasers to stun.</p>
<p>#<a href="#comment-1350011" rel="nofollow">279 poppa69</a>: </p>
<p>Strictly and solely in a rugby sense tho .I think Kiwis are still more emotionally involved in matches vs Australia. For me there are 3 trophies &#8211; RWC, Bledisloe, TriN &#8211; in that order. And Ranfurly Shield for the purists.</p>
<p>I dont feel a rivallry with SA in cricket for example. Whereas even tho Aus are stronger, it still hurts losing to them.</p>
<p>But clearly, our 2 greatest rivals in rugby are SA &amp; Aus with les Triclors looming as the Nemesis.</p>
<p>Footy. Great innit.</p>
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		<title>By: WakaNathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>WakaNathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 20:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1349945&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;217 cab&lt;/a&gt;: 

but your lot havent stopped.

JUSTICE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#<a href="#comment-1349945" rel="nofollow">217 cab</a>: </p>
<p>but your lot havent stopped.</p>
<p>JUSTICE.</p>
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		<title>By: Londonbokshark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Londonbokshark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 19:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1349670&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;44 sharks_lover&lt;/a&gt;: 

Sharkslover, if you were driving an F1 car and you only just beat guy driving a Tata bakkie would you not be a bit concerned? The Boks really should have put the Lions away good and proper in all three tests. If this series had been played in 2007 they would have. 

The so called depth of talent in SA rugger is so shallow you wouldn&#039;t even get your ankles wet. I fear for the future of the Boks with all the quota rubbish and excusing of 3rd rate coaches.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#<a href="#comment-1349670" rel="nofollow">44 sharks_lover</a>: </p>
<p>Sharkslover, if you were driving an F1 car and you only just beat guy driving a Tata bakkie would you not be a bit concerned? The Boks really should have put the Lions away good and proper in all three tests. If this series had been played in 2007 they would have. </p>
<p>The so called depth of talent in SA rugger is so shallow you wouldn&#8217;t even get your ankles wet. I fear for the future of the Boks with all the quota rubbish and excusing of 3rd rate coaches.</p>
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		<title>By: poppa69</title>
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		<dc:creator>poppa69</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 17:36:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1350228&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;433 byoboy&lt;/a&gt;: yep agree totally... but will still be behind the ABs, even though we are looking the worst of the bunch at the moment..

Congrats Federer... a true champ, always well spoken, gracious in victory and defeat... deserves it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#<a href="#comment-1350228" rel="nofollow">433 byoboy</a>: yep agree totally&#8230; but will still be behind the ABs, even though we are looking the worst of the bunch at the moment..</p>
<p>Congrats Federer&#8230; a true champ, always well spoken, gracious in victory and defeat&#8230; deserves it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: goyougoodthing2</title>
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		<dc:creator>goyougoodthing2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 17:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1350222&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;429 poppa69&lt;/a&gt;: no worries, knew that ;-)

#&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1350224&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;430 byoboy&lt;/a&gt;: No, just like the name...


FEDERER YOU BEAUTY GOYOGOODTHING!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#<a href="#comment-1350222" rel="nofollow">429 poppa69</a>: no worries, knew that <img src='http://www.keo.co.za/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>#<a href="#comment-1350224" rel="nofollow">430 byoboy</a>: No, just like the name&#8230;</p>
<p>FEDERER YOU BEAUTY GOYOGOODTHING!</p>
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		<title>By: byoboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>byoboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 17:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1350225&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;431 poppa69&lt;/a&gt;: any way you look at it this is going to be a tight 3N, but still stick to my guns that we (SA) will pip the other 2</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#<a href="#comment-1350225" rel="nofollow">431 poppa69</a>: any way you look at it this is going to be a tight 3N, but still stick to my guns that we (SA) will pip the other 2</p>
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