53 Comments

• 1.byoboy:
  5 Jul 2009, 15:46 pm

  2 weeks only??

• 2.rich1:
  5 Jul 2009, 15:54 pm

  He deliberately injures one of our players, and gets the same punishment as Bakkies got for legally clearing a ruck?

• 3.jonnymain:
  5 Jul 2009, 16:00 pm

  Now boys careful. No whinging!

  Utterly predictable that. 2 weeks seems to be the standard punishment for dangerous play – which is what Bakkies got found guilty of I might add despite what we all think about the incident, and the injury his “dangerous play” inflicted was a dislocated shoulder.

• 4.rich1:
  5 Jul 2009, 16:08 pm

  Burger got 8 when he was cleared of gouging and judged reckless. Shaw wasn’t reckless – that was deliberate

• 5.kwas:
  5 Jul 2009, 16:18 pm

  #3 jonnymain: There was no attempt to ‘clear the ruck’ or ‘get the ball’. He deliberately went in knees first to injure Du Preez. What a coward.

• 6.Senga:
  5 Jul 2009, 16:21 pm

  #4 rich1: Suddenly gone are all the Lions supporters who wanted to crucify the dirty thugly robust Boks after the 2nd test. The wheel turned.

  Congrats Lions. Great victory.

• 7.WakaNathan:
  5 Jul 2009, 16:23 pm

  I wonder if the Lions will disgrace their jersey with Justice 5 now ?

  my guess is, theyll take it on the chin.

  #4 rich1:

  Youre a disgrace to rugby.

  Shaw worse than Burger.

  Ive read it all now.

• 8.Senga:
  5 Jul 2009, 16:30 pm

  #1 byoboy: 2 weeks – he gonna miss any games – like Bakkies did? Neva….Who cares anyway..

  3N in 3 weeks time.

• 9.rich1:
  5 Jul 2009, 16:41 pm

  #7 WakaNathan:
  As I told you in an earlier post – try Prozac. It should help with these rage issues you’re having

• 10.Ezee-23:
  5 Jul 2009, 17:17 pm

  #7 WakaNathan: They took the eye-gouging incident on the chin didn’t they!!!! These Lions dont whinge do they? Never not them.

  Whats so special about the Lions series anyway? It’s no different to any other test match, except that maybe the Lions think they should be playing 14 Boks at time.

  “Get the f**k outta here”

• 11.pdvwysmiddelvingervirkeo:
  5 Jul 2009, 17:27 pm

  How ironic.The Brits complained about dirty play all week but they leave our shores with a dirty stain on their so-called good books.

• 12.tole:
  5 Jul 2009, 17:32 pm

  Ons kan dankbaar wees hy het nie ‘n rooi kaart gedurende die wedstryd gekry nie. Dink net hoe sou ons gevoel het as ons teen 14 van hulle verloor het.

• 13.chch:
  5 Jul 2009, 17:53 pm

  #8 Senga:

  2 week ban runs out on 22nd August. Certainly implies it is timed to cover some games.

• 14.kwas:
  5 Jul 2009, 19:17 pm

  #7 WakaNathan: Previous Lions series had same thuglike cloud hanging over it when Umaga and his partner-in-crime Mealamu nearly beheaded BOD. It tarnished the entire series, made worse by the fact that Umaga claimed ‘it was part of the game’. Not dissimilar to what the Bok coach thought of Burger’s actions.

• 15.Loosehead:
  5 Jul 2009, 20:03 pm

  Yes, but could FDP have died like BOD nearly did?

• 16.Puma:
  5 Jul 2009, 20:04 pm

  #4 rich1: It was deliberate. Right into back in the kidney area. Damn dirty. Should have got at least 4 or 6 weeks for that.

• 17.smokalot:
  5 Jul 2009, 20:07 pm

  rediculous. should be closer to eight weeks. Same thing as eye-gouging. Both could result in permanent disability.

• 18.Spies_Is_King:
  5 Jul 2009, 20:12 pm

  Thug dragons!

• 19.Puma:
  5 Jul 2009, 20:17 pm

  #15 Loosehead: If you knee someone hard into the back where the kidney area is, you could damage the kidney. So yes, that dirty tackle on FdP was serious or could be.

• 20.Senga:
  5 Jul 2009, 20:17 pm

  #13 chch: You are right, Shaw’s ban will not begin until Aug 9 and finish Aug 22, quoting from SS.

  My apologies.

• 21.smallies72:
  5 Jul 2009, 20:35 pm

  i think they shoeld rather suspend you for a nr of games instead of weeks

• 22.TheTackler:
  5 Jul 2009, 21:20 pm

  Told you it would be 2 weeks. Justice — that’s what it is.

• 23.rich1:
  5 Jul 2009, 21:22 pm

  They still ***** about the spear tackle on O’Driscoll in 2005 and conveniently forget the English player (was it Grewcock? sorry to him if it was someone else) biting someone.
  Biting v Spear Tackle – according to Brits and Irish back then, biting is okay, but spear tackles are bad.

• 24.rich1:
  5 Jul 2009, 21:32 pm

  Have a look at the comments under the article about Shaws ban in the Times , UK(http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/rugby_union/article6642628.ece

  According to them, Shaw “accidentally trips and stumbles on du Preez”, while Botha is of course a thug who attacked poor defenseless Adam Jones. They think Shaw shouldn’t have been banned at all and Bakkies should have got longer.

  What a bunch of losers

• 25.Big Hit:
  5 Jul 2009, 22:05 pm

  #24 rich1: pipe down, all I’ve seen you post since you came on here is needless vitriol aimed at the Lions.

• 26.WakaNathan:
  5 Jul 2009, 23:00 pm

  #25 Big Hit:

  Halle

  fken

  lujah !

  BH has finally found his spine after all !!!

  hallelujah !

  Come on in BH.

  What you’ll find is the locals equating a knee in the back to eye-gouging.

  We’ve had the JUSTICE campaign.

  Yet theyre still calling the Lions ‘whingers’. Or, as Cab might say “they whinge, we constructively criticise”

  Well, you made yer bed….

• 27.charo:
  5 Jul 2009, 23:00 pm

  #7 WakaNathan:

  what a larf you are.

  tool.

• 28.WakaNathan:
  5 Jul 2009, 23:13 pm

  #27 charo:

  is that a constructive criticism or just a simple whinge ?

  I cant tell anymore.

  For my Phone-a-Friend, Id like to call Cab. Does anyone have his no ?

• 29.Aeywajp:
  5 Jul 2009, 23:44 pm

  Shaw was clumsy and reckless. 2 weeks isn’t an unreasonable punishment, but is only meaningful if applied during the season when games are being played.

  The decision against Bakkies is an odd one. By the letter of the law it’s the correct decision, but the point’s been made innumerable times that if that’s the way it’s gonna be interpreted then it has to be done consistently and it clearly isn’t. I find it mystifying that it wasn’t overturned on appeal.

• 30.Big Hit:
  5 Jul 2009, 23:50 pm

  #26 WakaNathan: and all I’ve seen you post since you came on here is needless vitriol aimed the Boks.

• 31.Dubliner:
  6 Jul 2009, 00:40 am

  #30 Big Hit:

  Lol! I thought you had discovered you had a pair!

  Mate, WN does chide, but he is only ever reasonable and measured, and i think only chides when on an objective basis, he should do.

  On any assessment however, he could never be said to have be vitriolic.

  I can’t say the same for the head banging Dutchm@n on here like Rich1 though.

• 32.Dubliner:
  6 Jul 2009, 00:40 am

  #29 Aeywajp:

  I agree whole heartedly.

• 33.WakaNathan:
  6 Jul 2009, 00:51 am

  #30 Big Hit:

  Im getting confused. Which one is your team ?

  Actually I was the first one on here congratulating the Boks on ‘one of the Greatest Comebacks Ever’ and the Best 2 Tests Ive seen in years. And I meant it 100%.

  But this whole Burger incident and then Bakkies, his banning and unsuccessful appeal and then the JUSTICE’BS, well I just find the hypocricy sickening. To see honest troopers like Puma saying Shaw should have got 6 weeks to Burgers 8weeks, well its just very disappointing.

  There is 1-eyed. And there is blind.

• 34.rich1:
  6 Jul 2009, 01:22 am

  #25 Big Hit:
  I’ll take note of our post, I see you are fair on here. Honestly I have a lot of respect for the Lions and their supporters. However, after spending a bit of time reading the vitriol in the British press aimed at all things South African, by both “journalists” and bloggers, I felt it only fair to respond.
  As for WN – get a life. They lost, the world didn’t end. Move on

• 35.JB_BOK:
  6 Jul 2009, 01:41 am

  #7 WakaNathan: the only reason the lions arent complaining is that its the end of the tour. if there was another match they’d be bleeting like hell.

  Shaws penalty of 2weeks seems ok they, 2 weeks seems to be a standard.

• 36.Big Hit:
  6 Jul 2009, 01:52 am

  #33 WakaNathan: what Puma says doesn’t surprise me, but then I guess you yourself probably weren’t as harsh on Umaga/Mealamu as you have been on the Bok players, isn’t that hypocritical? a good few NZ posters have come on here to hammer the Boks were also the ones who defended that incident, but really what’s the point in coming here at all for a fight when you don’t support either team?

  #34 rich1: better not to read them, if I were to take everything keo has written and some bloggers to heart I’d probably feel the same way.

  Our journalists appear to have lost their mind on this tour, seduced by the open style of rugby above results they have backed the Lions to the hilt and even twisted PDV’s words. So to an extent many of the bloggers have been fed a line.

• 37.poppa69:
  6 Jul 2009, 02:03 am

  #34 rich1: Big Hit, fair ? he loves you Saffas…

  

• 38.TheTackler:
  6 Jul 2009, 02:08 am

  #36 Big Hit: The BOD collarbone event was judged by a South African citing official who declared that Umaga and Mealamu had “no case to answer”, remember?

• 39.Koos:
  6 Jul 2009, 05:34 am

  #38 TheTackler: And your point is? You really do only have a few saying you throw out at any old occassion, get some new stuff, you getting boring!

• 40.Koos:
  6 Jul 2009, 05:39 am

  #26 WakaNathan: I think you will note most are comparing a clean-out that got two weeks with a delibirate act of foul play. To top it, the first one meant missing a test, the second means nothing as the season official starts well after the ban runs out!

• 41.Koos:
  6 Jul 2009, 05:41 am

  What I want to know is why Heaslip was not cited for a shoulder charge in ‘clearing a ruck’ and from an offside position nogal!

• 42.munkiboi:
  6 Jul 2009, 05:58 am

  #41 Koos:

  he didn’t break anyones limp wrist.

• 43.jonnymain:
  6 Jul 2009, 08:39 am

  A lot of whinging going on here! I thought Saffas had more backbone than the whinging Poms LOL!

• 44.jondood:
  6 Jul 2009, 08:48 am

  #43 jonnymain:

  Seems to me the Brits only have a “backbone” is when one of us Saffa’s are sticking it into your ladies.

• 45.Predawn:
  6 Jul 2009, 08:50 am

  But it wasn’t deliberate..he slipped surely.

• 46.WakaNathan:
  6 Jul 2009, 10:09 am

  #40 Koos:

  For goodness sake, Burger only got 8weeks. Stop when you know youre ahead.

  Smits appalling JUSTICE campaign confirms Safas as the worst whingers of the lot. All they needed to do was let the Series with Lions finish and the squad depart and then the accolades would have arrived. But instead they have appalled all the neutrals who will now criticise and SA will feel they ‘didnt get the credit they deserved’. Well, hellooooooooo !

  #34 rich1:

  1. neither were my ‘team’. You seem to miss this point when blinded by the red mist.

  2. Move on ? Im sorry, but the Boks JUSTICE campaign seems to have kept the issue current, not historical.

  I think its all based around bravado and enough enough praising of SA egos. WTF – arent they supposed to be tough ? really, theyve made their own bed on this one. And watch the Bakkies ban stick.

• 47.rich1:
  6 Jul 2009, 10:20 am

  #46 WakaNathan:
  You are boring. Come back here when you have something new and interesting to share

• 48.DEE DAH:
  6 Jul 2009, 10:57 am

  Shaw has a track record for this same offence he seems to have an urge to knee opposing players. If it was his first offence fair enough but this is about the 4th or 5th time in his career he has been in trouble for illegal use of the knee.

  So what!!!! The tours over and he only plays again around September/ October 2 weeks could have been 2 months and it amounts to the same.

• 49.BlackPanther:
  6 Jul 2009, 13:23 pm

  #47 rich1:

  How strange that it seems to be a hot topic on todays threads elsewhere.

  Oh, I get it. As long as its only Safas criticising their own, its OK ?

  #48 DEE DAH:

  are you saying Shaw has been ‘victimised’ ?

  JUSTICE 4 SHAW !!!!!

• 50.BlackPanther:
  6 Jul 2009, 19:25 pm

  #47 rich1:

  Rich1……’something new and interesting to share’ ?

  this just(ice) in:-

  “The IRBInternational Rugby Board have charged the South African Rugby Union after the Springboks wore armbands during the Third Test defeat to the British and Irish Lions on Saturday as a symbol of solidarity for Bakkies Botha.

  The protest occurred aftr the upholding of Botha’s two-week suspension by an independent Appeal Committee for dangerously charging into a ruck without binding on a player.

  The IRB have pressed charges for alleged Misconduct in breach of the IRB Regulations Relating to the Game including breaches of the IRB Code of Conduct.

  The IRB takes the view that such an act demonstrates a clear disregard of the disciplinary process and does so in a manner which brings, or has the potential to bring, the Game into disrepute.

  The IRB has notified the South Africa Rugby Union that it intends to begin the disciplinary proceedings. The matter will now be referred to the independent Judicial Panel Chairman who will appoint a Judicial Officer or Committee.

  Botha was banned for two weeks for the second-half charge in the Springboks nailbiting second Test victory over the Lions – which gave them the series – on Adam Jones that left the Welsh prop needing corrective surgery to right a dislocated shoulder.

  The Springbok and Lions coaching staff, as well as Jones, have insisted that they saw nothing untoward in the second-rower’s charge, arguing he had merely been clearing a ruck.

  “As a sign of solidarity the Springbok players decided to wear white arm bands during the Test match,” said Piet Heymans, head of the South African Rugby Players Association (SARPA).

  “At the same time the players want to send a clear message that they require the IRB to have an urgent and serious relook at Law 10.4 (j).”

• 51.TheTackler:
  7 Jul 2009, 06:11 am

  IRB should intensify Law 10.4(j) to drive home the message that dangerous play of the type Bakkies regularly and cynically specialises in will not be tolerated, no matter how many crybaby armbands get worn in support of this thug.

• 52.Predawn:
  7 Jul 2009, 07:08 am

  Spend more time in the gym and less time in the pub Jones. That ale has weakened your old Northeren Hemisphere bones.

• 53.CheatingPussyBoks:
  7 Jul 2009, 11:43 am

  JUSTICE 4 SHAW !

  To the childish ghetto style armband making mobile!

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