Rose in No 15 jersey
9 Jul 2009
Earl Rose has been selected at fullback for the Lions’ opening Currie Cup match against the Bulls at Loftus on Saturday.
Rose’s best position has yet to be discovered as he has alternated between flyhalf and fullback and he will form the last line of defence alongside Tukkies recruit Johan Jackson and Dusty Noble. Former Cheetah Alywn Hollenbach has been slotted straight into the side at centre, as has No 10 Herkie Kruger.
Another signing, tighthead Kevin Buys, will anchor the scrum, while former Valke captain Nico Luus will start in the second row.
Former UCT centre Pieter Engelbrecht will sit on the bench.
Lions – Earl Rose, Dusty Noble, Alwyn Hollenbach, Walter Venter, Johan Jackson, Herkie Kruger, Jano Vermaak, Willem Alberts, Franco van der Merwe, Cobus Grobbelaar (c), Willem Stoltz, Nico Luus, Kevin Buys, Hans van Dyk, JC van Rensburg.
Subs: Derek Harwood, Gert Muller, Johan Snyman, Robert Kruger, Chris Jonck, Pieter Engelbrecht, Michael Killian
98 Comments
9 Jul 2009, 14:15 pm
I might be wrong but in my humble opinion fullback is Rose`s best position. He can cause less damage there LOL
9 Jul 2009, 14:17 pm
Blue Bulls: Zane Kirchner, Gerhard van den Heever, Jaco Pretorius, Wynand Olivier, Francois Hougaard, Burton Francis, Heini Adams, Dries van Schalkwyk, Dewald Potgieter, Jacques Burger, Wilhelm Steenkamp, Flip van der Merwe, Werner Kruger, Derick Kuün (captain), Jaco Engels. Replacements: Bandise Maku, Frik Kirsten, Fudge Mabeta, Gerrit-Jan van Velze, Francois Brummer, Marius Delport, Tiger Mangweni.
9 Jul 2009, 14:24 pm
will he throw a lie out to himself (5 meters from the try line) again?
9 Jul 2009, 14:24 pm
Has Pretorius left now for Oz?
9 Jul 2009, 14:24 pm
#3 byoboy: lie = line
9 Jul 2009, 14:25 pm
Very unfair to the Lions! They should be given a few points up front to compensate for having to play Rose!
9 Jul 2009, 14:27 pm
Based on these two teams, and more specifically the tight five, the Lions will get a hiding at Loftus.
9 Jul 2009, 14:28 pm
who is herkie kruger now & why is he getting first bite @ pivot?
This will be good for earl, to work with world cup winning coach, jake white who rates earl very highly & hopefully will put him on a programme that will see him flourish to be like giteau, who jake compared earl’s skill to! lol
9 Jul 2009, 14:29 pm
Ja ja ja…..xerox lions = copy cats hehehehe
9 Jul 2009, 14:29 pm
#4 Yetirat: injured hamstring
9 Jul 2009, 14:30 pm
Lot of new names here. All the best for the lions this year. Bulls will be to strong but the lions don’t have to stand back.
9 Jul 2009, 14:30 pm
“Rose’s best position is yet to be discovered…”
Hehehe.
Good way of putting it.
9 Jul 2009, 14:30 pm
I thought Jake believed Rose is a 10 and deserves a shot there???
Now they go back to Herkie Kruger???
WTF?
9 Jul 2009, 14:31 pm
#13 PissAnt: Jake was playing PdV. Next he will tell him to play January at fullback.
9 Jul 2009, 14:32 pm
What the fck is going on in that team sheet? Surely this is not the best they could come up with. That’s a bunch of fckn nobodies, coached by a bunch of teachers.
What happened to the rest of the Lions squad?
And I know Earl’s best position: back of Economy Class, heading to Cape Town.
9 Jul 2009, 14:34 pm
#15 katman:
They either left with Loffie or they are on a fitness program…
9 Jul 2009, 14:36 pm
#15 katman: LOL
Ag julle kom ons kyk eers na die naweek…….
9 Jul 2009, 14:36 pm
#15 katman: ha ha…would that be to play for WP or just to CT
9 Jul 2009, 14:38 pm
#16 PissAnt: If they put teams like this on the park, a fitness programme will be like a band-aid on a disembowelment.
9 Jul 2009, 14:40 pm
But is Baywatch the man to lead the Lions during this tumultuous time?
He has personified the Lions campaigns over the last few years: always losing but never quite sure why …
9 Jul 2009, 14:41 pm
#15 katman:
Injured:
Lawrence Sephaka
Louis Ludik
Heinke van der Merwe
Gerhard Mostert
Jannie Boshoff
Left:
Willie Wepener
Ernst Joubert
Ethienne Reynecke
Anton van Zyl
Dewald Senekal
9 Jul 2009, 14:44 pm
Bulls have a top notch backline, but their pack looks a bit suspect to me. Particularly in the back row.
With their 3 top locks and 3 of the top 4 loose forwards out of action they were bound to struggle a bit in that department.
I’m quite interested to see what the youngsters can produce. If they can give the backs good ball, Pieter Rossouw’s charges should be able to score a few nice tries.
But a lot will also depend on Burton Francis’ tactical kicking. ALL Bulls gameplans are based on that aspect of the game.
9 Jul 2009, 14:44 pm
this no-name lions team are going to give the cocky bulls a big wake up to start the cc season off.
9 Jul 2009, 14:45 pm
#8 Transformation:
Jake is good… but he is not a miracle worker… dream on!
9 Jul 2009, 14:45 pm
#22 Tacitus:
Burton your “fall guy” ?
9 Jul 2009, 14:46 pm
Jake White thinks Rose is good enough at fly half for the Boks but not for the Lions……
9 Jul 2009, 14:46 pm
#21 WilladieLeeu:
Add Johan van Deventer and Henno Mentz to the injured list.
9 Jul 2009, 14:47 pm
#21 WilladieLeeu:
Where did Wepener go… huge loss!
9 Jul 2009, 14:50 pm
#22 Tacitus:
Dries van Schalkwyk will suprise you at 8.Very good player,is the next Pedrie Wannenburg(in his prime)
9 Jul 2009, 14:50 pm
The Lions should see this as the start of a 3 year plan.
9 Jul 2009, 14:52 pm
#21 WilladieLeeu: Where is Shandre Frolick, Doppies la Grange, Deon van Rensburg?
9 Jul 2009, 14:53 pm
#25 Sheriff: Burton will be ok. He would benefit from playing with FdP, but Heini will take some pressure of him.
9 Jul 2009, 14:53 pm
#22 Tacitus:
I thought Dewald Potgieter was one of the outstanding players for the Bulls during the S14, that loose trio is much stronger and balanced than you might expect.
9 Jul 2009, 14:54 pm
#33 fatbastard: Agree, but we will miss Stegman and Spies. Not easy to replace them.
9 Jul 2009, 14:55 pm
#27 WilladieLeeu:
Johan van Deventer is playing for the u/21′s saturday. Not injured. Clever is in the USA, but coming back in a couple of weeks.
9 Jul 2009, 14:58 pm
#28 money_man:
Went to France I think. Ja, excellent scrummer. Line-out throws a bit suspect but he is a huge loss.
#31 katman:
Frolick also injured. Deon is back with the Leopards. Doppies was on his honeymoon recently, maybe still getting over that.
9 Jul 2009, 14:59 pm
#25 Sheriff:
Don’t be so cynical. I’m honestly interested in how well Burton will perform this season. He is the 2nd best flyhalf at the Bulls and it’s not like we have someone waiting in the wings to replace him. But he’s not had much gametime in the starting berth, either at S14 or Currie Cup level. Or even Vodacom Cup level for that matter.
He’s gotta perform, or we’re going to struggle in the Currie Cup.
So fall guy? No. Vital cog in the machine. For sure.
9 Jul 2009, 14:59 pm
#35 WilladieLeeu: I saw Clever play for the US 2 weeks ago, he got man of the match award.
9 Jul 2009, 15:01 pm
#26 pepinillo:
He said that to try and influence PdV to select Rose at 10.
He knows very well that Rose is not ready for that role.
You can see his true opinion here cause his soft parts are indirectly on the line, he immediately ensures that Rose is NOT at 10.
Jackal.
9 Jul 2009, 15:02 pm
#36 WilladieLeeu: I was going to say we should lure Deon van Rensburg to a proper team, but then I realised there’s not that much to choose between the Lions and the Leopards right now.
9 Jul 2009, 15:03 pm
#38 AGTEROSKOMOOKINNIEKRAAL:
He needs to come back soon, we need depth.
9 Jul 2009, 15:04 pm
#37 Tacitus:
9 Jul 2009, 15:05 pm
#37 Tacitus:
Don’t sell Brummer short… he was instrumental in bringing the U20′s back from a 20-nil deficit to annihilate the French to make semis of the RWC this year!
9 Jul 2009, 15:05 pm
#40 katman:
Let’s hope that changes.
Our centres for the CC:
Pieter Engelbrecht; Ruoan Cloete
Jaque Fourie; Barry Goodes;
Walter Venter; Doppies la Grange and now Hollenbach. He’ll back-up for FB.
9 Jul 2009, 15:07 pm
Earl Rose need to leave the Lions asap.Jake WhiteisBright will do Everthing in his power to prove Peter Div Wrong.Earl may Not be able to stand up to that Negativity.Go to EP Earl and Leave the Werfbobbejane to Destroy themselves.
9 Jul 2009, 15:07 pm
#15 katman:
roadlink…
9 Jul 2009, 15:09 pm
#45 namakwaland:
Two-for-one pap-saks at your local shabeen… shouldn’t you be there?
9 Jul 2009, 15:09 pm
#38 AGTEROSKOMOOKINNIEKRAAL:
Against who? Trinidad/Tobago?Samoa without imports?Romania?
wait wait ummm Fiji?
He is decent but there are 10 other flanks in SA that are equal in ability to him
9 Jul 2009, 15:15 pm
#48 mshiniwami:
Ya, he should move to Lock. He’s physical enough to be a real good lock.
9 Jul 2009, 15:21 pm
#47 money_man: You working the Till again?
9 Jul 2009, 15:23 pm
Rose should play at 10 or not at all. He is a useless fullback. Too small, too slow.
9 Jul 2009, 15:27 pm
#50 namakwaland:
Dis Baas Jake White vir jou.
Gaan lees die eerste thread, voor jy weer verwurg aan jou aaphalsband.
9 Jul 2009, 15:33 pm
#45 namakwaland: #52 Pietman:
Ok, maak dit Lord of Sir White dan, terwyl jy nou so Engels is.
Baas klink bietjie rassisties, ek het bedoel ‘Boss’.
9 Jul 2009, 15:34 pm
#51
Jason Robinson, Cullen – remember
I’m so glad rose is playing, at least the lions will score a try
9 Jul 2009, 15:42 pm
#54 adi:
Please tell me you didnt just compare Rose with Cullen…
Jeez, words fail me.
9 Jul 2009, 15:45 pm
#50 namakwaland:
Jy daar?
Ek raak bekommerd, jy van die paal af uit jou hok uitgeval, of wat?
9 Jul 2009, 15:45 pm
Please guys, remember, Jake White is not the coach.
9 Jul 2009, 15:50 pm
#54 adi: please do clarify what you mean by putting earl rose in the same sentence as cullen and robinson
9 Jul 2009, 15:54 pm
the same attacking abbility
lack of defensive skills
build.
the lions are always on the backfoot.
9 Jul 2009, 16:01 pm
#59 adi:
Cullen was small but extremly strong, he could bench 180 kg. I doubt Rose can bench his own body weight. Cullen was extremly quick. Rose is extremly slow. Cullen had a side step of a God! Rose has a side step of a prop!
The word Rose and Cullen should never appear in the same sentence ever again.
9 Jul 2009, 16:02 pm
Cullen and Rose
9 Jul 2009, 16:02 pm
#56 Pietman: DikgeVreet aan pampoenPie Pieta of is jy net lus vir gesels?Klaar geWei?
9 Jul 2009, 16:05 pm
#56 Pietman: Interresant hoe Net die ************* reageer as daar Op sy poot geTrap word.Jy Bevestig.
9 Jul 2009, 16:07 pm
earl has pace, flair and speed.
xellent side step.
Earl is switch between positions.
when cullen played centre his defense was lacking and he did not have the space to step.
was fired at an early age
9 Jul 2009, 16:07 pm
#59 adi:
Are you for real? Not even dignifying that with a full response.
Just know this, you obviously know nothing about rugby if you think Rose is anything like Cullen or Robinson.
Its incredible how delusional some people are.
9 Jul 2009, 16:08 pm
#62 namakwaland:
Ai man Namakwa, ek is so trots my ou, op Jake White.
Pas my vrou in die Kaap gebel met die nuus.
Jy al jou mense op Kharkams laat weet?
O, dis nog handsentrale.
Se vir die antie dis n noodoproep, sy moet gou maak, en die mense moet van die lyn afklim, jy het nasionale nuus om oor te dra.
Nee wag, moenie, dan luister almal weer in….
9 Jul 2009, 16:10 pm
#64 adi:
“earl has pace, flair and speed.
xellent side step.” Yeah right!
Ask Adam Thompson, the Highlanders flanker, about Rose’s devastating sidstep and Pace!
You are obviously taking the piss and just fishing.
9 Jul 2009, 16:10 pm
#63 namakwaland:
En onthou tog om vir neef Langkoppen ook te se, van Jake se prestasies, en so, ingeval ek nie hier is nie.
Nou, maar dan se ek eers totsiens.
Cheerio.
9 Jul 2009, 16:11 pm
maybe i know too much about Sa rugby
9 Jul 2009, 16:16 pm
In 1999, Rose was selected for the Western Province Under-Fifteen Merit Team, an accolade followed up two years later with his inclusion in the Under-Sixteen WP Academy. He played in Hoërskool Strand’s First XV from 2000 to 2002, in which year he also made the WP Under-Eighteen Craven Week, the WP Under-Nineteen squad, the SA Schools team for matches against France and Wales, and the South African Under-Nineteen training squad. 2003 brought the IRB Sevens World Series in New Zealand and Brisbane, Australia, and the SA Under-Nineteen FIRA-AER World Championship. He was included in the Western Province Under-Twenty squad in 2004
9 Jul 2009, 16:18 pm
#70 adi:
And then he went to the Lions….
9 Jul 2009, 16:19 pm
#68 Pietman: Gaan Goed.
9 Jul 2009, 16:19 pm
#71 Pietman:
And then he got caught dealing drugs and beating his GF…..
9 Jul 2009, 16:21 pm
#73 Sonito:
Ahahahahahaha! Too funny.
9 Jul 2009, 16:22 pm
The Rose of Hillbrow – never a dull moment when the master of disaster has the ball.
9 Jul 2009, 16:26 pm
Never found guilty in a court of law. joost looked for prossies. Naas wont support his child
whatever you say rose will get his day,
Cravenweek player of the tournament. then came
Jody rose
Dollie
croy
all of them represented their sa age groups. not good enough for a province 10
9 Jul 2009, 16:30 pm
#76 adi:
Not good enough for a number 10 anywhere in the world!! Not even a club team in Japan
I remeber watching Rose play for the SA u21 team and watching Luke Mcalister run over him about a hundred times. He must of let through about 3 tries in that game.
9 Jul 2009, 16:30 pm
#76 adi:
Ja, daai is sad man.
Earl is die Michael Jackson van SA rugby.
Maar soos jy se, hy was baie goed as n jnr.
Sy pa moes hom in die Kaap gelos het, dan was hy lankal Springbok.
Maar toe raak ou Enver gulsig en verkoop hom aan Transvaal.
En kyk nou….
9 Jul 2009, 16:31 pm
#76 adi:
Dollie is kuk.
Moenie hom in dieselfde asem as Earl noem nie.
9 Jul 2009, 16:35 pm
Enver kon hom in die kaap gelos het, maar gesien willem de waal en tony brown is oppad
9 Jul 2009, 16:39 pm
#80 adi:
Alle grappies op n stokkie, Earl was moosa goed as n youngster.
Maar ek se jou, sy broertjie was nog beter.
Ek het hulle beide gesien, vir Strand en Paul Roos, en hulle het nie gelyke gehad nie.
JPP, Jodie en Earl was die mees gevreesde skoolspelers in daai vallei.
En dis hoekom PdeV steeds n oog het op Earl, hy kom n pad saam met hom…
9 Jul 2009, 16:49 pm
#81 Pietman:
There have been plenty of players who were very talented at school but could not make it at Senior level. To make it at senior level you actually got to put some effort in and actually do some training. Rose has never put on any bulk or increased his strength if he wants to make it he actually has to put some effort in.
9 Jul 2009, 16:54 pm
#82 Sonito:
Yes, Earl needed to bulk up a bit.
But he is still a talented player regardless…
And PdeV WILL play him at some stage.
9 Jul 2009, 17:52 pm
Earl will probably look like a superstar.
it is after all the early rounds of the CC with all the best players out on bok duty and no pressure whatsoever.
exactly the opposite end of the scale when wanting to access a players character and potential.
Twakkie no doubt will point this out as justifying Rose’s selection to the Bok squad.
what a joke.
Next stop for Rose.
Griekwas,Olifants or Cavaliers.
9 Jul 2009, 19:04 pm
Why does rose get so much airtime…..
the guy is super ****,..!!!
10 Jul 2009, 01:53 am
#51 Sonito: I agree.
the only way for rose to grow into his position at 10 (which I believe is his position) is by playing there consistemntly for a whole season. Look at how Morne steyn only started playing his best rugby after he was no longer being swapped around with Hougaard and started playing consistently at 10 for a loooong time- nearly a whole season.
10 Jul 2009, 07:24 am
rose should go he aint that gr8
10 Jul 2009, 07:29 am
#86 SjamBok:
I also think he has some potential at 10. i like the way he attacks the line and gets his outside backs running onto the ball but he has to get his mind right and has to improve his Conditioning and strength. I dont think the international stage is the right place to do it and it is actually quite frustrating seeing him play fullback all the time for his provicial team.
10 Jul 2009, 08:07 am
When’s the last time that the Lions fielded a CC team without a single test cap in the match 22?
10 Jul 2009, 08:16 am
Rose’s best position is either staying in the changeroom or sitting in the stands…
10 Jul 2009, 08:48 am
#80 adi:
The more you talk up rose the more you embarrass…rose is kak.
He was a good age group player but failed to make the step up to the big time as his defence is shocking, he is to erratic and has lots & lots of brain farts.
10 Jul 2009, 08:54 am
jake white tells PDV to play rose at 10, but at the lions he must play 15.
This is a plot to keep him out of the springbok plans.
10 Jul 2009, 08:59 am
#81 Pietman
ekt hulle ook gesien en klas kan jy nie koop nie.
earl moes wp se flyhalf gewees het, maar omdat hy nie geleerde rugby speel nie, het dit teen hom getel.
die vorige verskoning was hy kanie skop vir ‘n 10, daaran gewerk en skop beter pale toe as Pretorius.
earl word onthou vir die highlanders wedstryd -gerieflikheidshalwe
maar met jou senters wat almal deurlaat , moet da mos ‘n fout kom.
10 Jul 2009, 09:05 am
Earl rose has lost more games for the lions than he has won .. and I’m afraid that trend will continue.
Yes, maybe he was a good age group player .. but that was long ago. He has now been at the top level for 3/4 years and has not shaped up.
The sooner he leaves the Lions the better .. he might shine in the B section of the cc, but really has no place in the A section, s14 or Boks.
10 Jul 2009, 09:15 am
I agree he should leave the lions.
The lions have no ambitions.
herkie kruger is played flyhalf, before earl or jody
Are u stupid or something. if is was a better flyhalf . fine
why do you buy these guys as 10′s and then you use rejects from other provinces.
he lost more games , because when he came on the game was already lost.
10 Jul 2009, 11:14 am
#95 adi:
“he lost more games , because when he came on the game was already lost.”
Bwa ha hahahahaha .. yea right …
Earl, sould you not be on the field practicing .. run along now, big game on Sat.
P.S. Please try not to stuff up .. and tackling is part of the game.
10 Jul 2009, 11:19 am
#51 Sonito: I’d go with option B Not at all, he’s ok in u17 games, but he’s not up to standard with grown ups.
10 Jul 2009, 11:31 am
tOMMOROW WILL BE HARD.
2 CENTRES WILL LET EVRYBODY THROUGH
ON THE ATTACK ‘EINA BULLE’
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