White honoured by IRB
9 Jul 2009
Jake White has been elevated to sit on the prestigious International Rugby Board’s Rugby Committee.
The Rugby Committee addresses all the relevant issues in the game and is headed by former All Blacks captain Graham Mourie (chairman), as well as consisting of other famous names such as Australian Rod McQueen – who like White led his country to World Cup glory.
An IRB spokesperson confirmed to keo.co.za that White’s first meeting with the group will take place in October. Another influential former international rugby player, who is yet to be named, will also join White as additions to the illustrious group.
White was invited by members of the Executive Committee and Council of the organisation to sit on the Rugby Committee, which has a significant impact on the game globally. The Committee was influential in the recent re-structuring of the laws, while it also advises the IRB Council which referees sit on the international selection panel, as well as making decisions on the relevant rugby matters at that particular time.
Other members of the Rugby Committee include former Wales international David Pickering as well as former France winger Jean-Pierre Lux.
By Grant Ball
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10 Jul 2009, 05:55 am
#349 CoachPete: Deans is a super coach, you just have to listen to him talk to know that. They are far from the finished product but I will put money on the Wallabies for 2011 now, whilst the odds are still good!
10 Jul 2009, 05:58 am
#351 Koos:
yes he is a good coach. Boks should have hired him.
Plus when he talks he makes sense.
Too early for 2011
If boks end up last in this tri nations, Pdv is gone baby gone.
10 Jul 2009, 06:01 am
Dont think Australias defence has been thoroughly tested yet.. France were tired after a long season and two physical games against the ABs… Deans has them playing well, but it is a step up again.
My concern with the ABs is all these players coming back, they havent had any game time for a while… so not sure how cohesive the team will be… no decent no. 10 is the big sticking point though.. McAllister is definitely underdone coming back from injury…. will still back my team regardless..
SA.. well, you guys have a decent nucleus, plus the Lions series so should actually stand you in good stead.. can your coach select the right team, that is the million dollar question…
10 Jul 2009, 06:08 am
#352 CoachPete: Unfortunately he will not be fired Coach, we stuck with him!
#353 poppa69: Yes, like I said, the Wobblies is not the finished product yet but the youngsters are looking good. They are in the lucky position that unlike SA and NZ, if they lose the odd game, nobody worries too much.
Pick right team and get the sub bench right…I am not sure!
10 Jul 2009, 06:09 am
#353 poppa69:
Hi Poppa Yes what you are saying its going to be close this year.
Abs will be much better than against France.
True about Oz, Frogs were done.
Boks, well same intensity and similar team as 1st half of 1st test against Lions and we could win it all
10 Jul 2009, 06:13 am
LOL…
http://www.news24.com/Content/MyNews24/YourStory/1162/265f0d81feeb4785b9f2b83a9cee159c/09-07-2009%2008-07/Considering_the_statistics
10 Jul 2009, 06:17 am
#355 CoachPete: Hi Coach, and agree… PDV surely has to start with the team that for the first half of that first test thoroughly put the lions to the sword… also think 3 home games first tips the scales slightly in your favour… though last year proved how hard it was for anyone to win 3 in a row….
yep Aussie, while looking quite polished, still dont have the depth of either NZ or SA, and think this could be their downfall… Giteau or Barnes get injured and they lose a lot… not the same luxury for Deans as he had at canterbury with playing personnel..
#354 Koos: Deans has always been a coach that seems to be great at nurturing talent, showed it time and again at the crusaders… imagine what he could do with Frans Steyn for example…
10 Jul 2009, 06:25 am
#357 poppa69:
Looking in my Crystal ball, Deans has avertage tri nations and sees the lack of depth as a problem.
Pdv has a kuk tri nations says some more stupid kak, and is fired.
SA rugby lures Deans with the big bucks, to coach boks starting the end of 2009 and into World Cup and goes on to win it with boks in his old back yard
10 Jul 2009, 06:25 am
#358 CoachPete:
average sorry
10 Jul 2009, 06:28 am
#357 poppa69: Yes, Deans would have had fun in SA if not for the politics.
10 Jul 2009, 06:37 am
#358 CoachPete: If only!
10 Jul 2009, 06:44 am
#358 CoachPete: yeah, though dont think the Aussies would let him go that easily… he did sign for four years… imagine the irony if he wins the WC in 11… though he was assistant to Mitchell in 03…
10 Jul 2009, 06:52 am
#362 poppa69: No he must do very very poorly before they will cut him, I mean, they held onto John Connelly for how long?!
10 Jul 2009, 06:55 am
#363 Koos: too true… but I think he was hired with the WC specifically in mind… we all have already seen what looks like a marked improvement… interesting times.
10 Jul 2009, 07:01 am
#364 poppa69: Yip, I think Deans already have 85% of his WC squad or an idea of it anyway. I am not sure the same can be said for the other two, ABs may well have a good idea but the Boks will only get clarity after this year I think.
10 Jul 2009, 07:22 am
#365 Koos: not sure the ABs have to be honest, think they are hoping a few will return from the NH… Hayman etc…
I think the Boks have unearthed a couple of potential superstars, it really is a case of PDV being able to assimilate these players into the nucleus of the WC winning side so they compliment and maintain some sort of evolution… victory in Dunedin was great psychologically for your side… it showed them they could win in NZ again… very important,as England discovered in 03.. gave them the belief that they were capable of lifting the trophy…
10 Jul 2009, 07:32 am
#366 poppa69: SA will be losing a few this year and that is the problem, nobody really knows who and when, not to even talk about if they coming back.
But you are right, we are sitting on what can be something great and hopefully they don’t go and muck it up. Again, this TN will give a very good ideea of where we are heading. As you mentioned, the 3 home games to start with gives us an even great opportunity to start off well…let wait and see.
10 Jul 2009, 07:37 am
#351 Koos:
Good odds… and ditto sentiment…
As Poppa says… they’re yet to be tested and super-young…
We have the better nucleus… we have the worst coach…
As Bladen said on TheRugbyClub… in his opinion… this is the most open 3N yet…
10 Jul 2009, 07:48 am
#367 Koos: do you think they will chase the dollars overseas though ? with the WC being so close, it may just detract a few from leaving… you guys have the quality of player to dominate like the ABs did before 07… but its the admin that hampers your team, as we all know
#368 money_man: have to agree with Hugh… I was extremely excited about last years comp, yet feel more so this year.
10 Jul 2009, 07:58 am
Everybody go to news 24 to see what Victor Matfield has to say about the coach.
10 Jul 2009, 07:59 am
Also want to see if Keo will follow with that same story. I know it doesn’t fit with their thinking though so I doubt it.
10 Jul 2009, 07:59 am
#369 poppa69: Most of them have achieved as much as they ever will Poppa, WC, TN, CC, Lions and if they don’t feel happy with the coach or whatever else they may well go. The exchange rate makes it very attractive.
10 Jul 2009, 08:06 am
#370 Izo: You mean the article that states P Divvie has a 76% winning record? Suppose it gives you an idea what to make of it…
10 Jul 2009, 08:10 am
#372 Koos: yeah, guess it must be hard to maintain the desire and focus if you have already achieved all the game has to offer.
but I also think the attraction of defending their title may just sway a couple to stay…
10 Jul 2009, 08:16 am
No, the one that talks about what Peter gives to the team. All of you have been saying the captain runs the team. In the article Victor puts that rumour to rest. But you can read whatever you want from what he says.
10 Jul 2009, 08:21 am
#374 poppa69: Hopefully but I think if they not happy it may just make them move easier.
10 Jul 2009, 08:27 am
#375 Izo: can you provide us with a link to the article ??
#376 Koos: yep.. cant produce good footy in an unhappy environment… shame if that is the case though.
10 Jul 2009, 08:30 am
http://www.sport24.co.za/Content/Rugby/TriNations/355/4e0efd1edbf34cfa82531ddf27056520/10-07-2009%2006-07/Matfield_Give_Div_credit
there you go Pop
10 Jul 2009, 08:31 am
#375 Izo: This is like flogging a dead horse…lets try it again after the 3 home games in the TN.
Outside of that, how much weight can you put on an article that gets something like a winning % so wrong, it is not even close…
10 Jul 2009, 08:34 am
#313 Big Hit:
Well youve just illustrated your extreme bias against NZ, yet again.
Nowhere did I mention anything about the ABs performance or strengths or ‘right’ to get beyond the match vs France. In fact, I only mentioned the French psychology, you have just launched in to 1 of your many anti-NZ diatribes.
Fact is, whether you care to admit it or not, France regard beating the All Blacks as the pinnacle and thats why they have no problems lifting for that match. But records show, and they themselves even admit which is well-documented, that they find it hard to lift again after beating NZ. It was the same in 1999 after that amazing SemiF vs NZ and they simply couldnt rise again to the same standards in the Final. They were very flat and lost with a whimper.
Engl were indeed piss-poor. Jonny did indeed play 10-man rugby for territory, he and Catt kicking to the corners. Unhappy with the Little Gnomes tactics they took tactics in to their own hands. In the Final SA already had the psychological advan over Eng and didnt even need to get out of 2nd gear to win that match, a very boring match if seen in isolation.
Your silly little analysis about who beat who beat who just leads you up a cul-de-sac without answers. Maybe its convenient for you. Fact is, Engl couldnt beat NZ either even when at home. France find it easier to get up for NZ than Engl. Deal with it.
10 Jul 2009, 08:39 am
Dude , should I copy and paste the article for you?
Everybody was saying that Coach P does not do anything with the team, the senior players call the plays and run the team. then it was that only the assistant coaches are doing the work and senior players.
What the article says is different from what this website has said and Victor comes out and says that PDV is in charge. Go and read the whole article and not only about winning percentages.
All I am saying that it rebuffs this webistes assertions that PDV is not doin anything in the team.
Seems to me that PDV wants human being who can think and handle responsibility and not robots who do what they are told and cant do anything else.
10 Jul 2009, 08:41 am
#378 Izo: Thanks Izo…
#379 Koos: is it wrong though Koos… lets see, incl 3Ns last year and BI Lions, he won 4 from 9 (2 from 6, and 2 from 3).. not sure how many tests played on the EOYT (4 out of 4 was it?), and then there was the series with Wales and the one off with Argentina before last years 3Ns.. so 3 from 3 there..
4 from 9 plus 7 from 7… so 11 from 15 would make the percentage about right I think…
10 Jul 2009, 08:43 am
#382 poppa69: sorry, 11 from 16…
10 Jul 2009, 08:44 am
#383 poppa69: 11 from 16 works out at just under 70%..
10 Jul 2009, 08:45 am
#315 poppa69:
Exactly right Poppa. Their squads they send down under are a disgrace and show their extreme arrogance. They are happy, however, for the Blacks and Boks to travel up north and fill their stadiums and pockets. And they will lecture the SH about rugbys spirit but just not uphold it themselves.
Just reading any contribution by BH here is a daily reminder of what theyre like.
#317 Big Hit:
Actually, it was Tassies @ 274 that said ‘Engl were piss poor’, I was just agreeing with him. But since he’s a Safa and you spend most of your Keo-time slipping up Safas butts, then I suppose it was just easier slagging off the Kiwi. Ho hum, no change there.
10 Jul 2009, 08:46 am
Keep on flogging that horse if it makes you feel any better Izo, don’t hold back.
10 Jul 2009, 08:51 am
#384 poppa69: Played 16, won 11 which is 68.8% Poppa.
10 Jul 2009, 09:01 am
What horse is being flogged, the article answers rumours about the Bok squad. You clearly made your mind up a long time ago. Don’t know why I bother.
10 Jul 2009, 09:02 am
#387 Koos: perhaps they were counting that all important Namibia test too my friend
10 Jul 2009, 09:06 am
#389 poppa69: And excluding the nil one down in Cape Town…they thought it never happened or else we would have scored some points…
10 Jul 2009, 09:14 am
PdeV has a very difficult few months ahead. He’s got 2 years to a WC and is facing the prospect of losing a number of his core players.
Don’t underestimate the influence of the players agents. I can see them putting a lot of pressure on their players to cash in now, rather than wait until after the next WC with the following arguments:
1. As WC and a B&Il series win, their value is at a peak, so cash in now.
2.What are their chances of defending the WC in NZ based on the Boks record there?
3.The value of a WC loser is less than a winner when negotiating a deal.
4. The player is in his prime but will be closer to the end of his career after 2011 and will command less money than he can now.
If PdeV decides to use the 3N as part of a rebuilding process, which he has to do at some point, then we could be in for a rollercoaster ride. My feeling is that he’ll gamble on fielding his strongest side for the first 2 home matches and experiment in the away games a la JW.
I’d then use the EOYT to introduce a few second tier of young emerging players who may make the step up as backups for 2011.
The Lions tour has actually done more damage than good for the WC build up as we’ll be losing players in the middle of the buildup whilst the sides have already started rebuilding.
10 Jul 2009, 09:29 am
#391 David: But if does that ala Jake White everybody will want him to get fired. If SARU dont give him the support in terms of giving him freedom to build for the next World Cup then he will be in trouble.
Also, I think within a WC where you play does not matter. Even though SA usually loses in NZ they will be playing other teams as well. They can draw from the last WC experience of playing away from home for a month and not think of it as playing the host country.
I think some of them might stay as they beloeve they can win another WC. If they do win then their value will go even higher. Most these guys can go play in Europe after that for 2 years and earn enormous amounts of money.
10 Jul 2009, 09:50 am
this must be leaving SARU red faced after they gave him so many problems
10 Jul 2009, 09:51 am
#392 Izo:
I think you underestimate the enourmity of playing in NZ. It is a big pscychological hurdle for pretty much every team in world rugby (except obviously the French, but they’re all mental anyway!). Pdv needs to have a firm plan in place but I don’t see any kind of long term thinking from him apart from his stupid desire to play “running rugby”. That is not going to win us a RWC, hell it would struggle to win us the S14. Pdv gets a lot more leeway in selecting his teams that JW ever did, remember how many times everybody questioned Jake’s sides? He had to explain himself during the WC ffs! Snor has an easy ride from SARU and the majority of the Bok side picks itself. Pdv is just a weak coach, where is his plan? What steps has he taken in regards to winning both the 3N and RWC? I don’t see a lot of forward thinking from the guy and it is holding us back.
10 Jul 2009, 09:54 am
Glad to see Jake White is being recognised. Maybe he will turn right this ship that is sailing straight towards SA.
10 Jul 2009, 09:54 am
#394 Thameside Bok fan:
That horse is dead. Stop flogging it.
We get your point.
Again.
10 Jul 2009, 09:56 am
#393 Dunx:
SARU admit that they fired arguably the world’s best coach? There is more chance of George Bush enrolling in an English speaking academy in Baghdad……:D
10 Jul 2009, 09:56 am
#392 Izo:
I was just pointing out some of the arguments that the players agents will be putting to the players. Remember that agents get a cut and are interested in cashing in on the players maximum value now rather than take a risk on doing it in 2 years time.
My point about PdeV is that he’s got some difficult choices to juggle with. If he plays his strongest team for the duration of the 3N in order to win it, knowing that a number of players won’t be available during the WC run up, it leaves him with a limited amount of internationals to experiment and mould his strongest squad.
10 Jul 2009, 09:58 am
#394 Thameside Bok fan: just for the record, that was France’s first win in NZ for 15 years, so not really a true indication of them in NZ…
10 Jul 2009, 10:10 am
#399 poppa69:
Just for the record….you didn’t notice the tongue very firmly inserted into cheek did you? Seriously some of you guys on here need to get into your wife’s supply of valium and chill out a bit.
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