SA fails in RWC bids
28 Jul 2009
The IRB Council have announced England and Japan as hosts for the 2015 and 2019 Rugby World Cups.
After their meeting in Dublin earlier today, the 26-man IRB council ratified the recommendation from the Rugby World Cup League (RWCL), who considered England as the best candidates, after discussions with television and sponsor experts.
The England Rugby Football Union (RFU) beat rival candidates South Africa and Italy after submitting a commercial package worth an estimated 300 million pounds to the global game. The South African Rugby Union (Saru) had bid for both events.
‘We are immensely disappointed but we congratulate the successful Unions,’ said Mark Alexander, bid committee chairman and Saru deputy president. ‘I am sure that they will deliver successful and memorable tournaments and we will support them in any way we can.
‘Obviously, this is a sad day for us as we proved in our tender document that South Africa offered the IRB the prospect of an outstanding event both from a commercial and development perspective. The choice between our bid and that of the RFU was a narrow one but we respect the council’s decision.
‘In a very short space of time we prepared an outstanding bid,’ Alexander continued. ‘The process has been an intense one but a worthwhile one. We faced a tough challenge but it was our duty to attempt to bring the tournament back to South Africa and present the best case we possibly could, and we have achieved that.’
Matches will be staged in 10 cities and 12 stadiums across England including Wembley, Old Trafford, Anfield, the Emirates Stadium and the Millennium Stadium in Wales (the only venue outside England).
The 2015 World Cup will run from 4 September to 17 October. The final will be played at Twickenham.
The last time England hosted the tournament was in 1991.

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28 Jul 2009, 22:43 pm
Well not quite all…..if you know what I mean!!
28 Jul 2009, 22:47 pm
#99 carol: whatever do you mean?
28 Jul 2009, 22:47 pm
#99 carol:
Old gel, I know perfectly well that the chaps in our Last Outpost were absolutely super sorts. I would expect nothing less from our kith and kin in Durban and the Cape.
Alas, the tales from Pretoria were less satisfactory. Apparently those brutish backvelders made the Welsh look like worldly sophisticates.
28 Jul 2009, 22:48 pm
#102 rangerman: Which bit?
Has everyone gone to sleep????
28 Jul 2009, 22:50 pm
#96 bdb: Good ol’ Country English…..sounds interesting!
28 Jul 2009, 22:51 pm
‘backvelders’ lol
28 Jul 2009, 22:53 pm
#103 Viscount Crouchback: Let’s face it, if they are from ‘The Valleys’ it is not difficult!! Although they were fun, polished would not describe them!!
However my ‘Pretoria Boys’ were superb….no brutish backvelders at our braai!!
28 Jul 2009, 22:54 pm
#45 Hier kom groot k..:
its a Curse I tell ya. Last thing you want to be is no1 at 2yrs prior to a RWC !
What you need is political upheavel, poor form, flushing out the old and sweeping in the new and the whole Nation on your back.
.
So its all looking very promising so far.
#46 Darkwing:
Well that was the way the Gracious Imperialists put have it.
The IRB profits have been guaranteed by the NZ Govt in 2011, just like they will be by the UK Govt in 2015.
#61 Big Hit:
Thanks Lord Barry, on behalf of the Gracious Imperialists.
and I see now joined in combat by the Viscount. Excellent stuff.
28 Jul 2009, 22:55 pm
#107 carol: Question of the day: Is swine flu communicable over the internet? If so should Carol & BH be banned?
28 Jul 2009, 23:00 pm
#70 SodaJoe: Soda, God knows why they would pick Denver? Why not the West or East coast? I mean how many Kiwis & Aussies live in Denver?
28 Jul 2009, 23:05 pm
#109 JimT: Hi Jim, don’t worry the Americans have got it only they don’t talk about it, same as when their cattle had BSE and Foot and Mouth.
They just keep their ‘gobs’ shut!! Damage limitation!!
Whats new Jim?
28 Jul 2009, 23:07 pm
#110 JimT: Jim. I don’t know either. Denver’s a pretty good ruby town, but San Diego has a larger support base, and almost everyone would fly there!
28 Jul 2009, 23:13 pm
#111 carol: #111 carol: LOL. I’m in mourning after watching a sub par 3N match last Saturday. Suffered in comparison with the Lions series. At this rate the Wallabies will walk this year’s 3N, notwithstanding their 1st loss
28 Jul 2009, 23:14 pm
#112 SodaJoe: Yeah but it’s so out the way. I would go to San Diego, Denver? Maybe.
By the way re: your potential visit to the Cotswolds in 2015 I will act as your wingman. Will get WRS drunk
28 Jul 2009, 23:27 pm
#113 JimT: Oh I forgot we are on opposing sides in the 3 Nations…..Fancy you being an A.B fan Jim, hang your head in shame!!
For that you will have to share a double bed with Soda. I will have to make sure I put GBS and Grant on different sides of the house!! Lol!!
Bed time….
See you all..
28 Jul 2009, 23:30 pm
And it would not sound so sweet to say to the Kiwis 2 more years guys two more years
29 Jul 2009, 02:33 am
Just read that Mike Stofile is against quotas. Great that commonsense has prevailed.
There is still however a problem with talented non-white players not making the transition to the senior ranks.
The answer is to introduce a mentoring system whereby the more talented young non-white players are mentored by the senior players in terms of fitness regimes, diet and skills as well as passing on experience and tradition.
In time more black and coloured players will fill the ranks of the provincial and S14 teams and there will be more players of colour to choose from for the national teams.
This is a constructive solution and can be done now at very little extra cost. Perhaps these youngsters can be signed under contract so they earn some money in the process.
Or a rugby academy can take these guys under their wing. Either way it would pave the way for a winning culture at all levels of the game.
Also how about putting more ex players, particularly non-whites, into the ranks of the administrators. At least these guys would know the game and what is required to support the players and coaches. Then we can all pull in the same direction at last.
29 Jul 2009, 03:14 am
It was revealed today from an undisclosed source that the WC was not granted to SA as the committee did not consider SA’s hospital systems would cope with an unprecedented amount of food poisoning considering the amount of teams that could be exposed effected and the possibility that the quota would also disrupt the sewerage systems, leaving the RWC in the poo.
29 Jul 2009, 03:24 am
#46 Darkwing:
Typical,look at this,blame NZ for something you lost.Instead of thinking oh well NH had a better proposal you blame another country for your bad luck.Live with it and stop bitching
29 Jul 2009, 03:30 am
#83 Viscount Crouchback:
lol
What a post,i just dont know what to say.
Nips??
lol
29 Jul 2009, 03:34 am
#118 captain fantail:
lol
Yep and i heard that the gold watch factory is now angry at the loss of the RWC as well.
Dosnt anyone care about the gold watch makers these days?
29 Jul 2009, 04:44 am
South Africa should have had the 2019 event rather than Japan. SA is a real rugby heartland nation; Japan isn’t and will never be.
(Just like SA will never be a true heartland nation of judo or karate, while Japan clearly is.)
Hosting a RWC won’t transform Japan into a rugby heartland. In fact, Japan’s massive urban population will swallow up all the hoopla of having a RWC in its midst without the ordinary man-in-the-street even noticing, or bothering, that it’s going on.
29 Jul 2009, 05:37 am
#117 Staalburger: Judging by the constant drivel coming out of his gob, how can you take anything Stofile says serious?
29 Jul 2009, 05:47 am
#83 Viscount Crouchback: Funniest post i have ever read on this site. Crouchie, you are a legend.
29 Jul 2009, 09:32 am
Nogge world cup in England and Wales. There is a real sense of entitlement over there that needs to be addressed. Japan was a bold move. Grow the game in new markets. They have the stadia and corporate muscle. Argentina would have been a great choice too. They have battled along with stuffall support from SANZAR or IRB and would add a lot of flair and passion to the occassion. They have earned a crack at it. SA should definitely have beaten England. We have the TV-friendly timezones, excellent infrastructure and rugby passion as do England of course. It is just that we have to kick this idea that every eight years the world cup must be held within a dropkick of London. The only upside; we always kick their asses over there.
29 Jul 2009, 09:53 am
I think we can take one thing for granted. NZ will never host the world cup again. The IRB is now clearly in the money business and NZ with its unfriendly timezones and 4 hotel rooms is just never going to make a profit. What happens if there aren’t enough double bunks? Will they have to top n tail like Noddy and Big Ears?
29 Jul 2009, 11:15 am
Well, SA had the world cup in 1995 and they aren’t in the frame until — at the very least — 2023. That’s 28 long years between drinks. NZ has got it in 2011, and therefore shouldn’t see it for at least another 28 years, bringing up 2038 as the earliest possible date.
Most of the people who read Keo’s blog will be dead, or really old pensioners by 2038, including Keo himself.
And the world will be a different place in 2038. Maybe by then all the world’s sportsfields will have be turned into rice paddies and rugby will only be played as a video-game.
29 Jul 2009, 12:35 pm
Sorry SA dipped out. Particully in the Bid for 2019, I think they would have put on a great WC.
Passionate, knowledgable spectators. Great Stadia, sunshine and varity of playing conditions.
29 Jul 2009, 12:42 pm
#46 Darkwing: NZ didnt screw us as i would guarantee that England would have won this “Vote” no matter NZ situation was.
Something needs to be done.
England
Ireland
Wales
Scotland
France
Economically speaking, they all have something to gain by the World Cup going to any one of the countries.
They are tiny countries which most people would find it difficult to spend longer than a few days in(besides France).
So people will be visiting the neighbours even if they aren’t hosting any games.
I would rather it went to France again than have to endure a miserable English Winter World Cup.
29 Jul 2009, 13:42 pm
I would rather it went to France again than have to endure a miserable English Winter World Cup.
The French did not bid for 2015 because they hosted 2007.So it was never going to be awarded to them again.If it was,we would be re
Scotland,Ireland,and Wales, screwed England out of hosting 2007 by voting for France.(who hosted the most successful world cup to date.)
Now, before putting up pom bashing,anyone and anywhere but England posts. You must all be asking yourselves, how did SA lose out on the 2015 other then being screwed by the 6N countries.
Could back to back SH world cup be one reason?
29 Jul 2009, 13:43 pm
Could back to back SH world cup be one reason?
Sorry back to back NH wworld cups
29 Jul 2009, 14:14 pm
SARU had no chance here and everyone told them so before hand. All that happened was they managed to write a cheque for R10 million that went into a well known someone’s pocket for drafting the document.
A very expensive word file!
29 Jul 2009, 15:41 pm
#130 PaulLondon: yes it was Japan who got SA’s World Cup not England. England were competing with Italy.
#128 cane: empty stands…
29 Jul 2009, 19:14 pm
They will try anything to try and put the Boks at a disadvantage
The empty-ish stadiums during the Lions tour probably didnt help our bid…
29 Jul 2009, 19:21 pm
#74 Viscount Crouchback: If the world hates the Boer chappies, then they must despise you useless Pom
29 Jul 2009, 19:36 pm
#130 PaulLondon: how can the cabagepatch ever compete with a brand new soccer city in a final.come fifa 2010 the old farts will see the blunder but then it will be to late.
29 Jul 2009, 19:49 pm
#74 Viscount Crouchback: dont need the tournament we will just take the cup on your form you will not need it until about 2050.at least the next three campions WON’T be rooinekke
29 Jul 2009, 21:48 pm
I really hope WC final in England will be in early October when it may be still sunny. No way November.
29 Jul 2009, 21:53 pm
#138 Nils: the Autumn internationals are rarely wet occasions and they take place in November. Just be glad it’s at Twickenham and not Murrayfield in Scotland.
29 Jul 2009, 22:03 pm
#139 Big Hit: Are you drunk? They are always wet, at the very least damp. Geez last year was close to snowing – and in fact snowed the next day, along with buckets of rain per usual.
What I would like is for the June tours to SH to be abandoned or focused on emerging Boks, etc. They are not true internationals.
29 Jul 2009, 22:20 pm
#140 SodaJoe: Eng v Aus/SA/NZ last year were not wet at all. I’m not sure what damp means to you but to us those were dry days
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