SA fails in RWC bids
28 Jul 2009
The IRB Council have announced England and Japan as hosts for the 2015 and 2019 Rugby World Cups.
After their meeting in Dublin earlier today, the 26-man IRB council ratified the recommendation from the Rugby World Cup League (RWCL), who considered England as the best candidates, after discussions with television and sponsor experts.
The England Rugby Football Union (RFU) beat rival candidates South Africa and Italy after submitting a commercial package worth an estimated 300 million pounds to the global game. The South African Rugby Union (Saru) had bid for both events.
‘We are immensely disappointed but we congratulate the successful Unions,’ said Mark Alexander, bid committee chairman and Saru deputy president. ‘I am sure that they will deliver successful and memorable tournaments and we will support them in any way we can.
‘Obviously, this is a sad day for us as we proved in our tender document that South Africa offered the IRB the prospect of an outstanding event both from a commercial and development perspective. The choice between our bid and that of the RFU was a narrow one but we respect the council’s decision.
‘In a very short space of time we prepared an outstanding bid,’ Alexander continued. ‘The process has been an intense one but a worthwhile one. We faced a tough challenge but it was our duty to attempt to bring the tournament back to South Africa and present the best case we possibly could, and we have achieved that.’
Matches will be staged in 10 cities and 12 stadiums across England including Wembley, Old Trafford, Anfield, the Emirates Stadium and the Millennium Stadium in Wales (the only venue outside England).
The 2015 World Cup will run from 4 September to 17 October. The final will be played at Twickenham.
The last time England hosted the tournament was in 1991.
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28 Jul 2009, 20:34 pm
#48 Hier kom groot k..: Jaco to be employed as advisor and kicking coach in 2019
28 Jul 2009, 20:38 pm
not serious – spoke with tongue in cheek
28 Jul 2009, 20:40 pm
#36 ronstermusic: Uuugh, pweh!
28 Jul 2009, 20:42 pm
#38 Senga: I cannot see why minnows like England still get a vote, or Scotland
28 Jul 2009, 20:45 pm
#54 JL1: Majority votes in the IRB. The rest of the world, including us, just have to dance along to the drums of Great Brittan. They dont rule the colonies anymore but they sure rule rugby.
28 Jul 2009, 20:52 pm
#41 Sheriff:dan carter was just an example like doctor khumalo was, i can mold the into carters!
#38 Senga:can you please get us the names of the SARU president’s council, the one that seems to be making all the decisions about rugby in this country?
#29 Bul-a-Bhloo: that’s why i’m starting to spark the interest while they’re young, look @ makhaya ntini (most recognised sports personality in south africa) & before him (jabu pule), i’m glad beast is achieving that kind of visibility…
28 Jul 2009, 20:56 pm
#50 smallies72: LOL
28 Jul 2009, 21:06 pm
Keo,
Please stop this poll: Who should start at flyhalf for the Boks in Durban?
Morne Steyn or Ruan Pienaar?
By now we all know Ruan is injured and Morne will start.
Post a new thread about Griquas – the team hiding in the shadows – leader by 6 points on the CC log – Vodacom winners.
28 Jul 2009, 21:13 pm
#58 Senga: Leading due to draw. They will be reeled in in due course.
28 Jul 2009, 21:20 pm
#59 Bul-a-Bhloo: Hope you are right. Too often they have been the Bulls nemesis. Recently the Vodacom cup final – at Loftus nogal. Whenever you see a pic of Dawie Theron, check out the confidence staring from his eyes – a mighty good coach that one.
28 Jul 2009, 21:22 pm
#18 WakaNathan: It’s IRB who have had their way, mostly so that they can get some real profit after 2011.
#23 dWeePer: what a cop-out that is.
#26 byoboy: most of the complainers were Celts, not English.
28 Jul 2009, 21:24 pm
#61 Big Hit: Not even subtle.
But … possibly correct, only because those self-serving ******** are worrying about their Berry Bros & Rudd en primeur futures.
28 Jul 2009, 21:28 pm
#62 SodaJoe: so SA will have to play their pool game against Wales at Millennium stadium, that should be a heck of a clash. Likewise, their probable QF with Australia who they beat last Autumn. I feel Wales could make a semi-final.
28 Jul 2009, 21:34 pm
shame …
some saffas still whining about the big IRB conspiracy hehehehehe
28 Jul 2009, 21:36 pm
#63 Big Hit: u sure u wanna predict QFs and SFs given what’s happened at the last WC?
28 Jul 2009, 21:38 pm
#65 Grape White: scratch that, I was thinking of the wrong RWC, getting ahead of myself.
28 Jul 2009, 21:44 pm
#63 Big Hit: Oh I don’t give a damn about 2015.
I would dearly love to beat NZ twice and win Tri-Nations this year and next then win 2011 RWC.
Then start thinking about 2012 Tri-Nations…..
28 Jul 2009, 21:47 pm
#67 SodaJoe: yes this weekend is the big one, win it and I think the Boks will be well on their way to the 3N win, I don’t see Aus living with SA’s power up front.
On a side note, do you think the USA could’ve hosted a decent RWC?
28 Jul 2009, 21:49 pm
Quoted from 3rd paragraph on top: “after submitting a commercial package worth an estimated 300 million pounds”
Multiplied by current pound/rand exchange rate of 12.81:
Gives you R 3,843,000,000
Eish – rather give it to England even 5 years in advance.
28 Jul 2009, 21:59 pm
#68 Big Hit: I think that the US have a lot going for them beyond rugby. Not least of which is accessibility for rugby nation tourists like Europe & Japan.
The game is emerging now, and has a basis of strength quite a lot ahead of where we were just a few years ago, but clearly still an emerging nation.
Americans love rugby when they watch it, and see it as Ultimate Fighting Meets (American) Football. So I think there would be a groundswell of support beyond the everyday base. It would get significant TV coverage.
Stadiums would be no problem. Geography could be a big problem – huge country, 3 different time zones.
I honestly believe they could pull it off, and the IRB need to watch the Kiwi’s and Aussies playing in Denver and see what expat base is.
SA would pull well in Atlanta, Dallas, and San Diego. Maybe NYC.
Love it to happen.
28 Jul 2009, 22:04 pm
#70 SodaJoe: would definitely be good, reckon Ireland and Italy could fill stadia in NYC.
I think if the 7s gets added to the Olympics much more funding will be given to US rugby.
I watched the Eagles play Canada recently in Charleston, NC on television. They beat them 12-6 which is a pretty good result given their record versus the Canucks.
The idea of the US taking to rugby is scary in some ways too though, I have visions of them winning every World Cup and going on a 20 year unbeaten streak
28 Jul 2009, 22:06 pm
#70 SodaJoe: Hi Soda, you won’t be wanting a bed for the UK Rugby World Cup then?
Big Hit and I may be very popular with the Saffas that year!!
28 Jul 2009, 22:08 pm
#24 Bul-a-Bhloo: Well we did sort of “invent” it!!
(Rugby)
28 Jul 2009, 22:11 pm
#55 Senga:
Dashed right, old bean. Those blighters at the IRB do what we bloody well tell them to do. That is entirely as it should be.
Quite why SARU ever thought it stood a chance is quite beyond me. No one in world rugger likes the Boer chappies. They are detested by all and sundry, as the frequently harsh disciplinary judgments handed down to their players makes all too apparent! (Poor old Bakkies, what?)
It’s time to take a look in the mirror, chaps. You need to ask why everyone hates you. A swift personality makeover is in order or you blighters won’t see another World Cup before 2050.
28 Jul 2009, 22:13 pm
#74 Viscount Crouchback: Tally Ho…..talking complete ‘Nuts’ as usual old boy!!!
Does Keo want some evening hits…..Now some of the regulars have dropped off the radar???
28 Jul 2009, 22:15 pm
#74 Viscount Crouchback: That is why the enjoyment of beating you on the green grass evens the field – you prolly still suffering from the Lions defeat?
28 Jul 2009, 22:16 pm
#75 carol: Naand tannie Carol, hoe gaan dit met ons engelse dame ?
28 Jul 2009, 22:17 pm
#74 Viscount Crouchback: back again so soon?
were you the wally in the pith helmet at kings park?
28 Jul 2009, 22:22 pm
what concerns me is that there seems to be insufficient big rugby stadia in england.
hence the need to use old trafford, emirates, anfield etc.
since the 2015 rwc will be played between august and october, where will the likes of manu, arsenal and liverpool play their home games?
even if they schedule rugby matches to avoid clashes with the football, those delicate pitches will be cut up and unplayable for the ballerinas.
28 Jul 2009, 22:22 pm
#74 Viscount Crouchback: What a Chump you are.
28 Jul 2009, 22:23 pm
#74 Viscount Crouchback: Julle is lekker bang vir die boere, en nou is julle nog meer dikbek omdat julle die toetsreeks 2-1 verloor het.
Toe die AB’s teen die Bokke verloor het, was sy eerste woorde baie geluk aan die Bokke, hul verdien om weer nr.1 in die wêreld te wees.
Toe ons die BIL wen, toe kon jy niks anders **** as ‘n gemompel en verskonings van al die rooies waarom hul eintlik moes gewen het. Lekker klomp engelse suurknolle, as jy my vra
Al die ‘kolonies’ (NZ, Aus, RSA) het hul lekker pak gegee in ‘n ry (2001,2005,2009). Maar kom gerus wees, vir nog pakslae.
Julle het ‘rugby’ uitgevind, maar die kolonies, en veral die boere het vir vervolmaak.
28 Jul 2009, 22:24 pm
#72 carol: Depends on the offer. I have seen your pix.
28 Jul 2009, 22:29 pm
#75 carol:
Young filly, I’ll have you know that there is nothing remotely “nuts” about my take on events. I offer good old-fashioned common sense befitting of a former Colonel in the Coldstream Guards.
Truth is, young gel, the blasted Boers are jolly well hated by everybody. The ancient bond of Empire unity is strong in the IRB. Those Australians might be frightful boors in cricket, but their rugger chaps are jolly proud Britons, and damned loyal to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II.
Only the funny folk voted for the Saffers – the Argies, the Scotch, those type of blighters. Oddballs. Folk who’ve come across the wrong side of the English too many times in war. You get the point, old girl.
Mind you, those yellow chappies can count themselves lucky to have won 2019. Word was the IRB hadn’t forgotten WWII last time they when they voted against the ****. What’s changed in the meantime? Damned peculiar race, the Nips.
Rugger should be like the cricket cup used to be. England three times in four, and then once to the colonies to mix things up a bit.
28 Jul 2009, 22:31 pm
#77 bdb: Naand, hoe gaaan dit Afrikaans vrende?
28 Jul 2009, 22:33 pm
#83 Viscount Crouchback: could be like that too.
if only your chaps could play the game……
28 Jul 2009, 22:33 pm
#83 Viscount Crouchback: Expat without identity – lost between countries – family of tackler perhaps…
28 Jul 2009, 22:33 pm
“the Argies, the Scotch”
Great people !
Robert the Bruce
William Wallace
John Knox
Eric Liddell
Great men !
28 Jul 2009, 22:34 pm
#78 rangerman: The blokes in the ‘Pith Helmets’ (The smart ones anyway) were Ex Royal Marines!! They were a laugh! Although I thought possibly sartorial mishap!! Lucky they were not scalped!
28 Jul 2009, 22:34 pm
Gentlemen, start your mouses. Please.
28 Jul 2009, 22:34 pm
and lady.
28 Jul 2009, 22:36 pm
Dead give away. “the Scotch”. Fake & troll.
Doos.
28 Jul 2009, 22:36 pm
#82 SodaJoe: Hahahaha – don’t let that put you off….
The Cotswolds are beautiful anyway and between London and Cardiff!!
28 Jul 2009, 22:37 pm
#88 carol: some of them were a right laugh indeed Carol.
and like the majority of Lions fans, a real pleasure.
my mate is just finishing his time as a Captain in the Blackwatch.
just another bunch of dirty Scotch according to crouchy. lucky for the queen, they are always on their guard.
28 Jul 2009, 22:38 pm
#92 carol: Ms Cheltenham, that’s the incentive. I am just a wee bit scared of WRS. Of whom I saw no pix.
28 Jul 2009, 22:39 pm
#93 rangerman: I have a comment on Vermulen for you on the other thread.
28 Jul 2009, 22:39 pm
#84 carol: Great my lady, I can even speak good ol’ country english, in cases of emergency !
28 Jul 2009, 22:39 pm
thank goodness old viscount crouchdown has arrived.
the evening would have been dead boring otherwise
28 Jul 2009, 22:39 pm
#83 Viscount Crouchback: Are you sure you are not actually Prince Philip, or did you model yourself on him??
I will not enter a Boer argument with you as you tend to throw history about!! I stopped history at the Middle Ages!!
28 Jul 2009, 22:42 pm
#93 rangerman: Honestly, do explain to Crouchback that we Lions supporters got on just fine with the ‘Boers’ (I know you are not one)…..
He would love us to still hate them!! Fuel for the fire!
28 Jul 2009, 22:43 pm
#94 SodaJoe: Did Roy give you my mail address? All can be revealed!!
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