Springboks 31 All Blacks 19
1 Aug 2009
Keo.co.za brings you live commentary from the Tri-Nations match in Durban.
1 min – Morne Steyn goes high with the kick off which is comfortably fielded by All Blacks skipper Richie McCaw.
2 mins – Close call for Jimmy Cowan as his clearance attempt is charged down, but Stephen Donald is on hand to clean up after some sloppy line out work from the visitors.
3 mins – The Boks look to test the All Blacks’ back three under the high ball and are rewarded with a penalty after some good chasing from JP Pietersen.
5 mins – Morne Steyn nails the penalty and the Boks get the first points of the game. 3-0 South Africa.
6 mins – All Blacks hit back straight away with a penalty of their own which Donald slots with ease to level the scores.
9 mins – A little stop-start at the moment with handling errors from both sides hampering the flow of the game.
11 mins – ALL BLACK TRY! Isaac Ross finishes on the wing after some good attacking play which started all the way back in New Zealand’s own half.
12 mins – Donald slots a tough conversion and the visitors extend their lead to seven points. 10-3 New Zealand.
14 mins – Boks hit back almost immediately as New Zealand are blown up for offside. Steyn makes no mistake with the penalty and the lead is reduced to four points.
16 mins – Yet another penalty for the Boks as Jerome Kaino is penalised and Steyn punishes him for his poor discipline to make it a one point game.
20 mins – All Blacks seem to have a slight advantage at scrum time and they set up a good attacking move from centre field but it is brought to an end by a thumping tackle from Jaque Fourie.
23 mins – New Zealand continue to look dangerous on the counter-attack but continue to squander possession through poor discipline.
25 mins – South Africa win a scrum against the head, and Morne Steyn has a drop goal attempt but it sails wide to the left.
27 mins – The All Blacks launch a quick attack through Joe Rokocoko, but it is brought to an end by a high tackle by Pietersen on Cowan and the Springbok winger is shown a yellow card.
28 mins -Donald nails the resulting penalty and the All Blacks extend their lead to four points.
30 mins – Penalty to the home side and Ross is now shown a yellow for a professional foul.
32 mins – Steyn slots the kick to bring it back to just a single point. 13-12 New Zealand.
36 mins – BOK TRY! Some brilliant work from Fourie de Preez and he pops it off to his Bulls teammate Steyn who finishes with ease to put the Boks back in front.
38 mins – Steyn converts his own try and the hosts lead by six points and are now back to 15 men as Pietersen re-joins proceedings.
40 mins – The Boks look to launch a counter-attack with time up in the first half and are rewarded with yet another penalty. Steyn is spot on again and South Africa go into the break with a nine-point advantage.
Half-time – South Africa 22 New Zealand 13
41 mins – Donald gets things under way again. The vistors come away with the ball but a shocking pass from Ma’a Nonu brings an end to the move.
43 mins – Piri Weepu comes on fro Cowan and Keven Mealamu replaces Andrew Hore at the front of the scrum as the All Blacks look to inject some fresh legs into the game.
45 mins – The Boks continue to dominate both territory and possession at the start of the second stanza, but the visitors defence holds firm and Steyn is forced to attempt a drop goal which comes back off the post.
50 mins – All Blacks launch a dangerous attack from deep in their half, but it is halted illegally by the Boks. Bakkies Botha is sent to the sin bin for a professional foul.
51 mins – Donald slots the resulting penalty and the Boks’ lead is reduced to six points.
55 mins – Penalty to the boks. Richie McCaw is blown up for playing the ball on the ground and John Smit has no hesitation in giving Steyn the ball.
56 mins – Steyn pops it over to restore South Africa’s nine point lead.
60 mins – Penalty to the visitors just inside their own half. Luke McAlister comes on for Donald and says he’ll have a shot.
61 mins – McAlister nails the huge penalty attempt as Bakkies Botha is back for the Boks who now lead by just six points with just under 20 minutes to play.
64 mins – Penalty to South Africa as Mealamu is penalised at the break down.
65 mins – Steyn makes no mistake yet again. South Africa 28 New Zealand 19.
68 mins – South Africa win ter another lineout against the feed and look to launch an attack in midfield but a skip pass from Jean de Villiers goes wrong and it all comes to nothing for the hosts.
70 mins - Adi Jacobs comes onto the field in place of De Villiers.
72 mins – The Boks have a 5 metre attacking scrum as the clock continues to wind down.
73 mins – Penalty to the Boks as the All Blacks are penalised for intentionally swinging the scrum.
74 mins – Steyn nails the kick and has a new record to his name – most points by an individual in a Tri-Nations clash.
76 mins – The All Blacks look to launch an attack from deep in their half, but yet again a handling error spoils the move – summing up New Zealand’s performance on the day.
77 mins – South Africa turn to the bench as they look to wind down the clock. Skipper John Smit leaves the field to a rapturous applause in his 60th Test as Springbok captain.
80 mins – Penalty to the Boks. Steyn pushes the kick just wide – he is human after all.
Full-time South Africa 31 New Zealand 19
Springboks – 15 Frans Steyn, 14 JP Pietersen, 13 Jaque Fourie, 12 Jean de Villiers, 11 Bryan Habana, 10 Morne Steyn, 9 Fourie du Preez, 8 Pierre Spies, 7 Juan Smith, 6 Heinrich Brussow, 5 Victor Matfield, 4 Bakkies Botha, 3 John Smit (c), 2 Bismarck du Plessis, 1 Beast Mtawarira.
Subs: 16 Chiliboy Ralepelle, 17 Jannie du Plessis, 18 Danie Rossouw, 19 Andries Bekker, 20 Ricky Januarie, 21 Adi Jacobs, 22 Wynand Olivier.
All Blacks — 15 Mils Muliaina, 14 Joe Rokocoko, 13 Conrad Smith, 12 Ma’a Nonu, 11 Sitiveni Sivivatu, 10 Stephen Donald, 9 Jimmy Cowan, 8 Rodney So’oialo, 7 Richie McCaw (c), 6 Jerome Kaino, 5 Isaac Ross, 4 Brad Thorn, 3 Owen Franks, 2 Andrew Hore, 1 Tony Woodcock.
Subs: 16 Keven Mealamu, 17 John Afoa, 18 Jason Eaton, 19 Kieran Read, 20 Piri Weepu, 21 Luke McAlister, 22 Cory Jane.
838 Comments
1 Aug 2009, 16:02 pm
Go bokke
1 Aug 2009, 16:02 pm
Come on ABs – Do it for Robbies dad.
1 Aug 2009, 16:08 pm
Ola Princess, nice to see you here…
1 Aug 2009, 16:11 pm
Op die Bokke!!!
Uit die Blou van onse hemel…
1 Aug 2009, 16:14 pm
anybody else more nervous than last week?
1 Aug 2009, 16:14 pm
Ok, AB’s don’t forget your vaseline on the bus!
1 Aug 2009, 16:18 pm
cmon ABs, use that vaseline to ram it straight up the Africans _____ !!!!!
1 Aug 2009, 16:21 pm
California awaits another bok win…
1 Aug 2009, 16:21 pm
listening to a insert about rugby on rsg goosebums and tears.how lucky are we to support the graetest game on earth.
1 Aug 2009, 16:21 pm
Boks by plenty
1 Aug 2009, 16:21 pm
Sal dit nie heerlik wees nie?
1 Aug 2009, 16:23 pm
#7 poppa69:
Can you be more ***?
1 Aug 2009, 16:23 pm
#8 mindispower: San Diego awaits another Bok victory
1 Aug 2009, 16:23 pm
The PdV Supporter’s Club predict a victory by 3 for the Maestro’s Bokketeas
1 Aug 2009, 16:26 pm
BOKKE by 7.
1 Aug 2009, 16:27 pm
#14 Saffa_Guy: President Of The PdV Supporters Club: Notwithstanding the faulty bench the coaching staff has selected, and provided PDV does not invert the reality, as he did in the first Lions test.
1 Aug 2009, 16:28 pm
#12 The_Green_Machine_is_a_Mean_Machine: you’re the one with vaseline on your mind, you tell me
1 Aug 2009, 16:29 pm
Go Blacks
And cheers everybody
1 Aug 2009, 16:33 pm
San Diego much bigger than Red Bluff…otherwise known as Dead Bluff. Way north on I5…
1 Aug 2009, 16:33 pm
Today for another bit of history for the Maestro’s Bokketeas
Two consecutive victories over the mighty AB’s
1 Aug 2009, 16:33 pm
#17 poppa69:
All jokes aside, good luck to you and the other AB supporters on here.
I hope the best team wins, wat sal beteken ons gaan julle goed opfoeter, hehe
1 Aug 2009, 16:34 pm
#17 poppa69: Excellent retort POPPA…but i shall have to remain Green and Gold. Good luck!
1 Aug 2009, 16:35 pm
#21 The_Green_Machine_is_a_Mean_Machine: Ja nee, ek stem saam…
1 Aug 2009, 16:35 pm
BOKKE
1 Aug 2009, 16:36 pm
#23 mindispower: Wat dink jy gaan die telling wees?
1 Aug 2009, 16:37 pm
#21 The_Green_Machine_is_a_Mean_Machine: #22 mindispower: agreed guys, good luck to you fellas too… may the best team win, the rugby be vintage AB/Bok quality and the ref a passenger…
ek dink nie joune sal gaan na groot heeltemal, homoseksueel seun … lmfao
1 Aug 2009, 16:38 pm
#7 poppa69: #7 poppa69: lets not be silly guys, everyone knows rugby players prefer KY.
1 Aug 2009, 16:40 pm
Jislaaik, ek vra myself oor die telling. Mense, iets is fout met die kop…
Score predictions if ya’ll please.
1 Aug 2009, 16:40 pm
I don’t effing believe this. My wife just phoned to tell me that she and her friend are stuck with a flat battery about half an hour away and could I bring some jump cables. She wasn’t amused when I asked whether they could wait a couple of hours!
Hope to be back later.
1 Aug 2009, 16:40 pm
I hope everyone enjoys the game today no matter how much the Boks win by. Hehe
1 Aug 2009, 16:41 pm
#27 Knersboy:
#28 mindispower: ABs by 7, coming home in the last quarter to steal it from SA…
1 Aug 2009, 16:43 pm
#29 David: that sux David, probably a good thing, your wife probably knows you will be more p1ssed off after the game then having to change the battery, perhaps shes saving you some heartache ?
1 Aug 2009, 16:43 pm
#30 poppa69: So, you’ll resort to thievery I see….
1 Aug 2009, 16:46 pm
#29DAVID
Hope you are back for the celebrations.
1 Aug 2009, 16:47 pm
Sterkte aan altwee spanne. Mag die groenste span wen !
1 Aug 2009, 16:48 pm
#33 mindispower: thievery ? nah, we’ve paid the ref
but must have been a worrying sign for you guys how we came back last week… and lets not forget, last week was very similar to your opening game against the Lions, and we all seen how their performance dropped for the 2nd, hope its not a repeat..
1 Aug 2009, 16:49 pm
Boks by 12 …..you heard it first on Keo
1 Aug 2009, 16:49 pm
8am in California and I need coffee…of is dit koffie. Ek mis my Moer Koffie!
1 Aug 2009, 16:49 pm
At about 16:45 SA time we will know whether the boks will do what they have not done since we returned to international rugby – winning 2 games in succession against All Blacks. The winning ratio in Durbs is 4/3 in favour of All Blacks.I certainly think it is not gonna change. All Blacks by 9 I maintain.
Hope the rain stays aways thus making it easy for the Blacks – think they are smarter than us.
1 Aug 2009, 16:50 pm
Talking of Vaseleine ….did the ref not come out of the closet last year?
1 Aug 2009, 16:51 pm
In May 2007, he publicly came out as homosexual in an interview with Wales on Sunday. Although reactions have been generally positive, it was a difficult decision to make. He had even contemplated suicide.[2]
1 Aug 2009, 16:51 pm
#35 poppa69: How much u pay? Yes, I am concerned about running out of steam. Unfortunately I do suspect the Silver Leaf to rise today. Win I want to, but I do hope for a really good game.
1 Aug 2009, 16:52 pm
At least he had the courage to do it!!!
1 Aug 2009, 16:52 pm
18:45 I meant to say.
1 Aug 2009, 16:53 pm
#38 Peter Mkata: Smarter than us?! NA! Their brains are just bigger. All that mutton you know…
1 Aug 2009, 16:53 pm
#39 Peter Mkata: hey Peter, almost time mate, good luck to you guys…
1 Aug 2009, 16:53 pm
man, i don’t have dstv and i am too lazy to go out to watch the match. it is on sabc delayed at 18:30.
now i gotta stay offline and not answer my phone and all that **** and know that the game is on and that exciting stuff is happening and i must be patient and that sucks.
1 Aug 2009, 16:53 pm
Good luck Smitty in your record breaking game.I’m sure your boys will do you proud.
1 Aug 2009, 16:55 pm
#41 mindispower: well hes Oirish, so just a few lagers after the game, in the company of the team as we sing the adopted welsh winning anthem
but seriously, its all I hope for too… irrespective of the result, if it is a quality game I’ll be happy..
1 Aug 2009, 16:55 pm
okay cheers okes, go bokke!
1 Aug 2009, 16:55 pm
welsh should read Oirish, nerves are shot already haha
1 Aug 2009, 16:56 pm
good luck guys, going to sneak down to the pub for my “lunch hour” and watch the game
Kia Kaha Black!!!
1 Aug 2009, 16:56 pm
JDV/Hab 50up
1 Aug 2009, 16:56 pm
And to Jdv and Habs as well.:)
1 Aug 2009, 16:57 pm
here we go time for war
1 Aug 2009, 16:57 pm
#44 poppa69:
Hi Poppa
What me and you think is immaterial. We will know in just over an hour from now
1 Aug 2009, 16:57 pm
Mossie looks pumped
1 Aug 2009, 16:58 pm
Watch online http://www.veetle.com/viewChannel.php?cid=4a74132d0a004
1 Aug 2009, 16:59 pm
#56 brendon: also here if that doesn’t work: http://www.iraqgoals.net/ch1.html
1 Aug 2009, 17:00 pm
Great to see those black jerseys on the field. Good luck NZ.
1 Aug 2009, 17:00 pm
Dag ou Grote. Waar jy ookal is. Myne is vandag Langkloof Port 2004. Joune seker sletsap?
Geniet Pietman, enjoy G10, geniet Ed, geniet alle ou vriende.
1 Aug 2009, 17:00 pm
#57 Big Hit: shot boet !
1 Aug 2009, 17:00 pm
#43 mindispower:
Hope for a great game. No yellow cards and referee stealing the limelight.
1 Aug 2009, 17:00 pm
away anthem played last, is that normal?
1 Aug 2009, 17:02 pm
#62 BIG HIT
Is anything normal anymore?
1 Aug 2009, 17:02 pm
Must say the kiwi anthem is stirring here comes the haka
1 Aug 2009, 17:02 pm
kapa o pango!!!
1 Aug 2009, 17:02 pm
kopo o pongo
1 Aug 2009, 17:02 pm
Oh man – throat cutter
1 Aug 2009, 17:02 pm
We have got to get a supporters song with our own identity
1 Aug 2009, 17:03 pm
AB’s look flattish
1 Aug 2009, 17:03 pm
Haka not so ominous when they are losing……
1 Aug 2009, 17:04 pm
Sorry about the anthems NZ. Unintentional logistical error.
1 Aug 2009, 17:05 pm
let the games begin. good start boks donald shaky
1 Aug 2009, 17:05 pm
Today JPP goes over on his home ground
1 Aug 2009, 17:06 pm
Donald injured? Boks all over ABs.
1 Aug 2009, 17:06 pm
I hope Donald is okay.
1 Aug 2009, 17:06 pm
Great start for the Boks!
1 Aug 2009, 17:06 pm
well well well victor almost caused a try there poor lineout
1 Aug 2009, 17:07 pm
Hello all
Go the Bokke!!
1 Aug 2009, 17:08 pm
Bakkies – here comes another citing. Brains!!!
1 Aug 2009, 17:08 pm
McCaw all over the ref.
1 Aug 2009, 17:08 pm
Third big test in a row for NZ
1 Aug 2009, 17:09 pm
Pressure on the All Blacks!! Love it.
Now for Steyn to get the penalty
1 Aug 2009, 17:09 pm
huge hit JPP
1 Aug 2009, 17:10 pm
kiwi commentators saying Muliaina in the air
1 Aug 2009, 17:10 pm
bokke 3 – all blacks 0
1 Aug 2009, 17:10 pm
Steyn you beauty
1 Aug 2009, 17:10 pm
3-0 bokke
1 Aug 2009, 17:10 pm
WP Jp great chase. that was a dum run by jaque why pass for a guy next to the line. Morne perfect kick. AB’s will have to limit errors else they will be in trouble.
1 Aug 2009, 17:11 pm
****!!
1 Aug 2009, 17:11 pm
Mooi Steyn.
Goed opgevolg JPP.
1 Aug 2009, 17:11 pm
how was that a pen?
1 Aug 2009, 17:11 pm
That was not a penalty. Nothing wrong at all.
1 Aug 2009, 17:11 pm
bokke 3 – all blacks 3
1 Aug 2009, 17:12 pm
Damm 3 all
1 Aug 2009, 17:12 pm
Double ****!!
1 Aug 2009, 17:13 pm
Franks vs The Beast should be interesting contest. Both are relatively young in prop terms
1 Aug 2009, 17:14 pm
Refs a wanker.
O yes someone already said that earlier.
1 Aug 2009, 17:14 pm
Franks can’t stay up
1 Aug 2009, 17:14 pm
Keep it together SA. The Blacks are tired and rusty.
1 Aug 2009, 17:16 pm
Revenge is coming.
8-3, conv to come
1 Aug 2009, 17:16 pm
Oh ****!! Thats a bit of a turn around
1 Aug 2009, 17:17 pm
Hoo haa. Rain stay away for more please!
1 Aug 2009, 17:17 pm
good try 8-3
1 Aug 2009, 17:17 pm
Lost in defence.
1 Aug 2009, 17:17 pm
Nice try AB.
Where was the wing Bokke?
1 Aug 2009, 17:17 pm
jean de villiers missing tackles already!!!
1 Aug 2009, 17:17 pm
bokke 3 – all blacks 10
1 Aug 2009, 17:17 pm
10-3
1 Aug 2009, 17:18 pm
We need to stop the quick line outs. The Bokke hsve to close those down
1 Aug 2009, 17:18 pm
eish!!
1 Aug 2009, 17:18 pm
Terrible defending. Boks scrum is pap.
1 Aug 2009, 17:19 pm
Goeie drie van AB’s
Verskil tussen spanne tot dusver: AB’s het 2 kanse vir punte gehad, en altwee gebruik. Bokke het 4 kanse gehad, net 1 gebruik.
1 Aug 2009, 17:19 pm
lol wtf McCaw
1 Aug 2009, 17:19 pm
bokke 6 – all blacks 10
1 Aug 2009, 17:19 pm
NZ try…really not ideal.
1 Aug 2009, 17:19 pm
10-6
1 Aug 2009, 17:20 pm
That’s Richie’s signature move. He gets away with it a lot. Less now, which is good for rugby.
1 Aug 2009, 17:20 pm
10-6 go boks need a try
1 Aug 2009, 17:20 pm
Excuse the pun, but I think we are again guilty of ‘try-ing’ too hard. Slow it down boys, or you will run out of steam…
1 Aug 2009, 17:20 pm
This Bokketea team has belief and composure
Will not panic and claw our way back
1 Aug 2009, 17:20 pm
Nonu munched
1 Aug 2009, 17:20 pm
15 mins, great test so far!
1 Aug 2009, 17:21 pm
Rokdumbo….thanks from SA though…
1 Aug 2009, 17:21 pm
Roco not clever here at all, opportunity on the plate for the Boks.
1 Aug 2009, 17:21 pm
And if you run out of steam, we will get hammered by a massive points margin…
1 Aug 2009, 17:21 pm
Jpp looks good
1 Aug 2009, 17:22 pm
warning ABs
1 Aug 2009, 17:22 pm
SA penalty. We were a bit lucky there
1 Aug 2009, 17:22 pm
That’s Kaino’s signature move too. It’s a habit that he’ll have to get rid of.
1 Aug 2009, 17:22 pm
Woodcock murdering Smitty
1 Aug 2009, 17:23 pm
bokke 9 – all blacks 10
1 Aug 2009, 17:23 pm
****, rain comes
1 Aug 2009, 17:23 pm
Kaino trying to break off sooner…suppose that is his way of combating being run over as he was done last week…
1 Aug 2009, 17:23 pm
10-9
it’s started raining
1 Aug 2009, 17:23 pm
Dare I say it… in Morne Steyn we trust!!
1 Aug 2009, 17:23 pm
Ryg jul in Morne !
1 Aug 2009, 17:23 pm
I cannot see NZ winning this one. They don’t have the personnel and they’re tired.
1 Aug 2009, 17:25 pm
#137 sglazer: long way to go
1 Aug 2009, 17:25 pm
The way the AB’s are “handling” the ball they seem to be rattled….
1 Aug 2009, 17:25 pm
feeding the scrum
1 Aug 2009, 17:25 pm
silly mistake fdp
1 Aug 2009, 17:25 pm
Might not be a bad thing, a point or two behind.
1 Aug 2009, 17:26 pm
oof that had to hurt
1 Aug 2009, 17:26 pm
great tackle jacque fourie!
1 Aug 2009, 17:26 pm
big defence Fourie
1 Aug 2009, 17:26 pm
Sheesh…. Great tackle by Mossie
1 Aug 2009, 17:26 pm
Did Jacque have steroids in his Coco Pops this morning???
1 Aug 2009, 17:26 pm
Mossie is an automatic starter in the team. Period.
1 Aug 2009, 17:27 pm
JFourie is a great cross defender…
1 Aug 2009, 17:27 pm
Fourie du Preex making some unforced errors was his poor decision making cost the Ab try and now kicking to nobody again handing them possession on a plate
1 Aug 2009, 17:27 pm
Mills will be sore tomorow
1 Aug 2009, 17:28 pm
JDV defence poor
1 Aug 2009, 17:28 pm
JdV has missed two tackle on Sivivatu now in 20 min…
1 Aug 2009, 17:28 pm
Scrum time!!
1 Aug 2009, 17:29 pm
Much better!!
1 Aug 2009, 17:30 pm
#150 skopskiet: Bullsh*t comment.
1 Aug 2009, 17:30 pm
Bizzy…what a tackle and steal…
1 Aug 2009, 17:30 pm
great steal Bismarck
1 Aug 2009, 17:30 pm
for ****’s sake! Jean de villiers is missing tackles like crazy what is wrong with him?
1 Aug 2009, 17:30 pm
Jean De Villiers better start making some tackles.
Well done Biz.
1 Aug 2009, 17:31 pm
Ref pinging the maul
1 Aug 2009, 17:32 pm
Unlucky the Bokke, at least they are trying to innovate (somewhat)
1 Aug 2009, 17:32 pm
the maul would’ve been better for the ABs
1 Aug 2009, 17:32 pm
Missed drop by MSteyn…
1 Aug 2009, 17:34 pm
very lucky break for NZ
1 Aug 2009, 17:34 pm
These AB backs have some GAAAAAAAAS
1 Aug 2009, 17:34 pm
****, dirty ********. twice in a row.
1 Aug 2009, 17:34 pm
AB’s counters good…
1 Aug 2009, 17:34 pm
Eish.
1 Aug 2009, 17:35 pm
AB’s doen AL die hardloop werk.
1 Aug 2009, 17:35 pm
****** its starting to unravel for the Boks!
1 Aug 2009, 17:35 pm
fully deserved card, off you go.
1 Aug 2009, 17:35 pm
Harsh call
Bokketeas have been very disciplined
1 Aug 2009, 17:35 pm
blikesm
1 Aug 2009, 17:35 pm
bokke 9 – all blacks 13
1 Aug 2009, 17:35 pm
Penalty AB’s…high tackle JPP…
In the bin…
Slotted by Donald…
Bokke 9 – 13 AB
1 Aug 2009, 17:36 pm
#171 Crouching Tiger Hidden Bokke: Hou op vloek jou gatgaba !
1 Aug 2009, 17:36 pm
Stransky is trying hard to agree with the ref on every occasion.
1 Aug 2009, 17:37 pm
#166 Saffa_Guy: President Of The PdV Supporters Club: Too many beans.
1 Aug 2009, 17:37 pm
They are killing us at midfield!
1 Aug 2009, 17:37 pm
arghh, ABs very hesitant near their own tryline. I see troubles in the future.
1 Aug 2009, 17:37 pm
Common professional foul. Yellow card?
1 Aug 2009, 17:37 pm
card Ross, harsh the ball was out.
1 Aug 2009, 17:37 pm
Come on Nigel Owens. That was not yellow.
1 Aug 2009, 17:38 pm
Professional foul Ross…
Penalty and yellow…
1 Aug 2009, 17:40 pm
lucky knock-on for SA
1 Aug 2009, 17:40 pm
That was close
1 Aug 2009, 17:40 pm
Are we back online?
1 Aug 2009, 17:40 pm
Bloody Kiwi commentary is so one-eyed today.
1 Aug 2009, 17:40 pm
Owens got tired of the purposeful infringements from the AB’s and yellow carded Ross…
Penalty slotted…
Bokke 12 – 13 AB’s
1 Aug 2009, 17:40 pm
We must keep it tighter. We’re playing into NZ’s hands. Change of game plan at half-time.
1 Aug 2009, 17:40 pm
What yellow?
Professional foul, referee, off you go for 10 mins, Owens.
1 Aug 2009, 17:41 pm
Sjoe, hierdie NZ kommentators is ‘n klomp cry babies op rugby zone.
1 Aug 2009, 17:41 pm
The ref is quite a stickler
Pulling out these yellows a litte to easily
1 Aug 2009, 17:41 pm
#184 sglazer: Yes it was…..
1 Aug 2009, 17:41 pm
#189 SodaJoe: today? it’s every time SJ
just try to ignore it.
raining heavily
1 Aug 2009, 17:42 pm
#191 sglazer:
Its the execution
Not the game plan
Little errors spoiling our momentum
1 Aug 2009, 17:42 pm
Jdv only one tackling around the scrum fringes
Difference between the teams is Ab’s trust carrying the ball through the hands and we still kick most balls up in the air
1 Aug 2009, 17:43 pm
Another tackle and steal by Bismark on Kaino…Kaino seems to be physically below par…
1 Aug 2009, 17:43 pm
what a kick Frans Steyn, matfield chip silly
1 Aug 2009, 17:43 pm
Magnificent by Frans Steyn
1 Aug 2009, 17:43 pm
#195 Bul-a-Bhloo: tell me honestly, wouldn’t you crying for ref’s head, if the receiver would have been Bok here?
1 Aug 2009, 17:43 pm
On the AB line
Execution spoils again
1 Aug 2009, 17:44 pm
Brussouw shouldn’t have twisted
1 Aug 2009, 17:44 pm
NZ scrum munched, M.Steyn try.
1 Aug 2009, 17:45 pm
Great Morne – cement yr place in the team!
1 Aug 2009, 17:45 pm
Great scrum Bokke…2nd scrum steal by FDpreez…great angle run by MSteyn…
Try MSteyn…
1 Aug 2009, 17:45 pm
And Skop eats his words again………
Nice pass FdP!!!!
1 Aug 2009, 17:45 pm
Try Morne just what the doctor ordered
1 Aug 2009, 17:45 pm
Steyn you absolute beauty!!!!!
1 Aug 2009, 17:45 pm
It’s over now. Boks to pull away in the second half.
1 Aug 2009, 17:46 pm
bokke julle helle try time
1 Aug 2009, 17:46 pm
19-13 Sa
1 Aug 2009, 17:46 pm
Morne 19 – All Blacks 13
1 Aug 2009, 17:46 pm
Converted…
Bokke 19 – 14 AB’s (38 min)
1 Aug 2009, 17:47 pm
#202 Nils: What do you mean? I don’t want the refs head. I’m not that way inclined…..
1 Aug 2009, 17:47 pm
Great pace by Spies cutting off Rokococo…
1 Aug 2009, 17:47 pm
Morneeeeeeeeee hoekom hardloop jy jy is mos net ‘n skopper ha ha. Die manne moet net kalmeer dan teken hulle ‘n 50 tal aan. Dis kak rugby wat die AB speel hulle weet anders is hulle in die moeilikheid so hulle hardloop van orals maar soos wat die wp al uitgevind het dit werk nie.
1 Aug 2009, 17:48 pm
Our flyhalf has scored a try 2 games in a row, there’s something to this?
1 Aug 2009, 17:48 pm
great chasing SA, real desire
1 Aug 2009, 17:48 pm
Nigel, take the carrot out your ***
1 Aug 2009, 17:49 pm
Habana’s looking faster…
1 Aug 2009, 17:49 pm
fok my woorde is skaars koud, daai was ‘n professionele foul mr ref
1 Aug 2009, 17:49 pm
Bokke 22 – AB 13
1 Aug 2009, 17:49 pm
Yep, the management have empowered this team
They have belief and confidence in their abilities and decisions
The Maestro’s vision is starting to reveal itself
1 Aug 2009, 17:50 pm
Very Very Very poor play by the AB’s….everytime the Bokke put pressure on the Ab’s make more mistakes than a primary school side…
Another penalty (kickable)..
Slotted…
Bokke 22 – 13 AB’s (halftime)
1 Aug 2009, 17:50 pm
This promises to be a big win for SA. Drive it home boys, all the way.
1 Aug 2009, 17:50 pm
Dnoner what a half
1 Aug 2009, 17:50 pm
22-13
Morne was the right pick for 10. JDV hasn’t been good, maybe a Pienaar/M.Steyn 10/12 axis could work.
Boks need to keep this up for 80 but rain will help, Boks better in the air and chasing.
1 Aug 2009, 17:51 pm
Morne jou Masjien !.
Bismark en Bakkies maak hul mooi sag.
Snorre, GROOT GROOT ASB moet net nie vir Bakkies met Bekker vervang nie. Los vir Bakkies op en bring vir Danie in Juan se plek.
1 Aug 2009, 17:51 pm
PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZ don’t go to sleep after the break boys, please. This one is here for the taking…
1 Aug 2009, 17:51 pm
awesome game, and it seems the boks have even missed a few ry scoring opportunities!!!!
1 Aug 2009, 17:52 pm
Muliaina is having a poor game, he seems to have aged about 10 years in 6 months
1 Aug 2009, 17:52 pm
Agree Big Hit. JDV has not had a good game thus far. Hope he picks up in the second half.
1 Aug 2009, 17:52 pm
just leave januarie on the bench pls…
1 Aug 2009, 17:52 pm
Danie will come on for Juan around 60 minutes
Possibly also JdV to be replaced later
1 Aug 2009, 17:52 pm
what a farkin joke… Mulianaina gets tackled in the AIR, you guys get 3 points..
as for the yellow for ROss, what farkin bullshit… well done SA, seems the refs are in your farkin pocket!!!!
1 Aug 2009, 17:52 pm
#198 skopskiet: He needs to tackle as a center too. Missed way too many tackles today. Weakest link in the team today.
Fanscois Steyn is playing very very well, as is Morne Steyn.
We look vulnerable when they run at us, and earlier scrums Woody murdering Smitty (but we seem to b getting that under control).
1 Aug 2009, 17:53 pm
We got some lucky calls guys….great game tho!
1 Aug 2009, 17:53 pm
Seems like they still have some “jet lag”. All Blacks very weak under the high ball, and what’s with their binding at the scrum. Glad this ref is not allowing them to cheat.
Hammer them with high balls in the 2nd half.
1 Aug 2009, 17:53 pm
#229 Big Hit: When JdV leaves for greener currency then that ‘might’ be a good idea. Maybe!!!
1 Aug 2009, 17:54 pm
#230 bdb:
Yep, Juan has been playing alot of rugby
Think he has played out all the matches to date
Danie for Juan would be good thinking
1 Aug 2009, 17:54 pm
Coaching staff, keep your heads. No rash substitutions. It’s raining. Let the players find their feet more and get it together, tighter, with good kicking.
1 Aug 2009, 17:54 pm
well we got some rub of the green there prevented two definite Ab try’s and turned the game around through some consistent pressure. Morne Steyn has come to the party in a big way.
All those crying Jdv is not tackling, take him off and see what happens. Ab’s would be well up by now if not for Jdv’s tackling around the fringes and in the trenches.
1 Aug 2009, 17:54 pm
I hate the fact that the AB revert to purposeful infringements…that is embarrassing from a NZ supporter perspective…
1 Aug 2009, 17:55 pm
did fourie take the ball out of the scrum ? for the morne try??
1 Aug 2009, 17:55 pm
Mossie is having a huge game. Just one handling error that would have been a try.
1 Aug 2009, 17:56 pm
Pops the rand is to weak to have the rev in our pocket
1 Aug 2009, 17:56 pm
#244 skopskiet: Boet. Facts are facts. He’s missed plenty in HIS channel today. That’s his job.
1 Aug 2009, 17:57 pm
#246 Hmmm: really, I hate the fact Mils is tackled MID AIR and you guys get the penalty, Ross makes a farkin legal play at a ball that had conme out of the ruck and he gets a yellow..
OPEN YOUR FARKIN EYES AND WATCH THE GAME YOU KNUNTS !!!!
1 Aug 2009, 17:57 pm
Keep it up Bokke!
1 Aug 2009, 17:57 pm
#237 poppa69: That’s the way it is. Meanwhile ABs themselves play ******* woeful.
1 Aug 2009, 17:57 pm
And now for a few more Heinekens.
1 Aug 2009, 17:58 pm
#225 Saffa_Guy: President Of The PdV Supporters Club:
You a president of a club? Cannot think that the club is having much success…
1 Aug 2009, 17:58 pm
NZ’s questionable tactics come to the fore when their game is not on song. The layers that usually cover these tactics are not there.
1 Aug 2009, 17:58 pm
#245 Hmmm: I agree. But they say it is easier to say sorry than not to do it. Not good for the game but what else to do????
1 Aug 2009, 17:58 pm
we are just trying too hard should slow it down one millisecond. Hit them up front then run them ragged. The way the AB is playing there will definately be intercept tries by one of the two 50 club guys mybe even both of them he he.
1 Aug 2009, 17:58 pm
#250 poppa69: Mils foot was on the ground Pops. Great tackle.
Ross should have a had a red for persistent offsides.
1 Aug 2009, 17:58 pm
#250 poppa69: hahaha, ag shame throwing toys out your cot
1 Aug 2009, 17:58 pm
Almal het goed gespeel sover, maar die volgende staan ui:
FS
JF
skakelpaar
Bismark
Bakkies
Hoop hul hou dit daar in die 2de helfte.
1 Aug 2009, 17:58 pm
#250 poppa69: come on poppa, it wasn’t as if he was mid-air, he got hit as he landed, that’s test rugby. The card was harsh.
1 Aug 2009, 17:59 pm
MSteyn is doing everything right…
Scored 22 points in 1 half!!!!!!
1 Aug 2009, 17:59 pm
Watch for free at http://www.iraqgoals.net
1 Aug 2009, 18:00 pm
#254 Hmmm:
Am unofficialy, the unofficial president of the unofficial supporters club
And thats official
1 Aug 2009, 18:00 pm
#245 Hmmm: Agreed! I think it might be a tactic of theirs. It’s easy points for us.
1 Aug 2009, 18:00 pm
Suicide All Blacks.It is almost painful to the ABs make such
elementary mistakes.Running from behind your own goal line
borders on stupidity.Simply ground the ball.Kick of from
22 and start.
1 Aug 2009, 18:01 pm
I don’t care who is in the SA midfield….as long as JFourie is there…
1 Aug 2009, 18:01 pm
#254 Hmmm: bru soon you will be the only one trying to slag PDV. There is a brilliant article on rugbyheaven nz where they certainly have seen the changes where the boks have grown. No more mr predictable we can play it both ways, we have a fetcher lol etc etc.
1 Aug 2009, 18:01 pm
#250 poppa69: I agree that both were bad calls. But what to do???
1 Aug 2009, 18:01 pm
#249 SodaJoe: Soda, Jean having a good game. Sure missed some important tackles but look at the whole package.
1 Aug 2009, 18:01 pm
Bismarck has had a fantastic game so far. His ripping away of the ball in the tackle has been exceptional.
1 Aug 2009, 18:01 pm
great pass!
1 Aug 2009, 18:02 pm
awful pass sivivatu
1 Aug 2009, 18:02 pm
2nd half here we go
1 Aug 2009, 18:02 pm
Wow AB’s making pathetic mistakes.
This goat sacrifice thing seems to work.
1 Aug 2009, 18:02 pm
MSteyn equaled the individual record against AB’s in 1 half!!!!!!!
1 Aug 2009, 18:02 pm
people are f’ng blind. Take Jdv off and you will see the Ab dominate the advantage line. Jdv is and extra loose frward at the breakdown and at the adv line and so is Bismark.
1 Aug 2009, 18:02 pm
Meanwhile credit to the Boks for putting pressure and ABs now do not look good at all, when under proper pressure. Other that that Boks aren’t anything special, only Morne shines.
nah, those ABs are AWFUL today.
1 Aug 2009, 18:03 pm
NZ are playing helter skelter rugby
1 Aug 2009, 18:03 pm
Bismark swatting off 2 AB’s…
1 Aug 2009, 18:03 pm
#269 mindispower: Muliaina’s foot was on the ground. Ross was unlucky. Bad call by the ref.
1 Aug 2009, 18:04 pm
I can’t remember when last I saw an AB team make so many basic errors…
1 Aug 2009, 18:04 pm
One thing is for sure, there will not be ABs peaking between World cups, blessing in disguise.
1 Aug 2009, 18:05 pm
Bakkies thanking Hore for the throw [s]
1 Aug 2009, 18:05 pm
High tackle by Nonu
1 Aug 2009, 18:05 pm
Another try goes begging
Small bits of executioooooooooon lads
1 Aug 2009, 18:06 pm
#277 skopskiet: 100% correct. That is exactly what I am seeing.
1 Aug 2009, 18:06 pm
Due to sins in a previous life I am condemned to watch with kiwi commentary. It is like watching one game and listening to commentary on another. After 5 mins of winging about how FdP put his hands in the scrum to steal the ball Smithy eventually concedes error after actually watching replay.
Go Bokke.
1 Aug 2009, 18:06 pm
#268 timo:
Doofis…I was slanting Saffa-guy…stay out of our personal banter..we go back a long way…
If you read my post again…and you have an inkling of an ability to read…then you’d see where i was aimed at…
1 Aug 2009, 18:06 pm
here comes the habana bunny
1 Aug 2009, 18:06 pm
NZ really low at the moment Two subs in the 43rd moment.
1 Aug 2009, 18:07 pm
must just grind it out from here no fancy business
1 Aug 2009, 18:07 pm
That should be a penalty to NZ. Hands in by Smith.
1 Aug 2009, 18:07 pm
#264 Saffa_Guy: President Of The PdV Supporters Club:
Ha-Ha…
You been in the UK for too long…that weather is getting to you…
How you been otherwise?
1 Aug 2009, 18:08 pm
Who would have thought the All Blacks would play “Helter Skelter” rugby.
LOL
1 Aug 2009, 18:08 pm
#291 sglazer: Yup. Probably lowest in a decade, it seems.
1 Aug 2009, 18:08 pm
This period of play certainly belongs to the Boks.
1 Aug 2009, 18:09 pm
What a kick from Piri from 5 /7 meters from his tryline…kicked it 15 meters from his tryline…
1 Aug 2009, 18:09 pm
#294 Hmmm:
All good
Just getting more gatvol of life over here
Need to get me *** home
Go toy-toy with the okes on TV
1 Aug 2009, 18:10 pm
#298 Hmmm:
How you been?
See you been popping around the Keo Springer Show lately …
1 Aug 2009, 18:11 pm
unlucky Stey
1 Aug 2009, 18:11 pm
Are they deliberately not kicking out?
1 Aug 2009, 18:12 pm
David you back yet?
1 Aug 2009, 18:12 pm
Did not really look like the Bokke were trying to score a try there? I hope they don’t do their “we have won” “tactical” play….
1 Aug 2009, 18:13 pm
i think Ross knocked it backwards though but finally good attack for the ABs
1 Aug 2009, 18:13 pm
botha carded, game swinging NZ’s way
1 Aug 2009, 18:13 pm
Bokke 22 – AB’s 16
1 Aug 2009, 18:13 pm
That is so ridiculous, it is pathetic. Ref is ***** in a number of ways.
1 Aug 2009, 18:13 pm
22-16
1 Aug 2009, 18:13 pm
#304 Hmmm: Agreed! Why would they start that now?
1 Aug 2009, 18:13 pm
Bakkies yellow…SA’s first professional foul….
1 Aug 2009, 18:14 pm
Bollocks!
1 Aug 2009, 18:14 pm
game on, go Blacks!
1 Aug 2009, 18:14 pm
Guys make the tackles. When they run from stupid places it is our advnatge.
Fk. Bakkies off.
1 Aug 2009, 18:14 pm
Bokke maak dit vir hulself weer moeilik.
1 Aug 2009, 18:14 pm
bakkies die armbande sal weer uitgehaal word
1 Aug 2009, 18:15 pm
Fdp stuffing around around the fringes instead of swinging the ball when we had them on the rack and now they run it out from their own try line almost score a try and get 3 points from it and we get a yellow card as a result. Distribution behind the scrum is far too slow.
1 Aug 2009, 18:15 pm
Ah ****!! Here we go again.
1 Aug 2009, 18:16 pm
Bakkies arsef*cked again
1 Aug 2009, 18:16 pm
This is why Pienaar is better.
1 Aug 2009, 18:17 pm
#320 Ezee-23:
Dont be so fickle
Morne is playing well
And i’m a Pienaar fan
1 Aug 2009, 18:18 pm
#299 Saffa_Guy: President Of The PdV Supporters Club:
Ha-Ha…I can see you toy-toying…funny sight…
1 Aug 2009, 18:19 pm
Point coming for SA
1 Aug 2009, 18:19 pm
Bokke 25 – AB’s 16
1 Aug 2009, 18:19 pm
#320 Ezee-23: bollocks
1 Aug 2009, 18:19 pm
25-16 Boks look strong enough in the scrum with 7
1 Aug 2009, 18:19 pm
As if MaCaw gone dumb…he never made silly mistakes like this before…and he did it last week too…continuing playing the ball on the ground…
1 Aug 2009, 18:20 pm
#317 skopskiet: Bullsh*t comment again. You got a FdP hangup?
Whats that now:
JW
JS
now FdP.
1 Aug 2009, 18:20 pm
Good work Heindrich
1 Aug 2009, 18:21 pm
#320 EZEE-23
Better than 22 points against the ABs?
Wait, make that 25.
1 Aug 2009, 18:21 pm
excellent steal brussouw
1 Aug 2009, 18:21 pm
Ja jake was reg ‘n fetcher is nie nodig nie.
1 Aug 2009, 18:21 pm
Dartangnan Brussow. Bloody great player. World class.
1 Aug 2009, 18:21 pm
Game changer Brussow
1 Aug 2009, 18:21 pm
MSteyn hold the individual record against the AB’s…for a SA donno if for everyone…
1 Aug 2009, 18:22 pm
#321 Saffa_Guy: President Of The PdV Supporters Club: I know he’s playing well but I just wish the two could merge and make 1 flyhalf. Maybe I am too harsh!
1 Aug 2009, 18:22 pm
Great talent, that man Heinrich.
1 Aug 2009, 18:22 pm
Am no longer going to describe myself as being “Short”
Rather I am of “Low Centre Of Gravity” (like Brussouw)
Reckon it will impress the ladies
1 Aug 2009, 18:22 pm
We need Bakkies back! We’ve been hanging on nicely.
1 Aug 2009, 18:22 pm
And how composed does Morne look?
1 Aug 2009, 18:23 pm
#300 Saffa_Guy: President Of The PdV Supporters Club:
Yeh…was looking for some spice…LoL
Or was it to visit you? LoL
1 Aug 2009, 18:24 pm
#330 stormer in a teacup: The missed drop-goals were frustrating. I think I may have been too harsh.
1 Aug 2009, 18:24 pm
#388 SAFFA
Depends how low you are in the centre. Hehe
1 Aug 2009, 18:24 pm
#338 Saffa_Guy: President Of The PdV Supporters Club:
Does wifey read keo?
1 Aug 2009, 18:24 pm
The guys are moeg!
1 Aug 2009, 18:25 pm
McAlister on.
1 Aug 2009, 18:25 pm
#341 Hmmm:
Rob’s place is enjoyable just a little to civil for me liking
Enjoy the odd bit of bare knuckle boxing and eccentricty in this mental ward
1 Aug 2009, 18:25 pm
Good work John. Keep the game plan in everyone’s mind.
1 Aug 2009, 18:25 pm
#342 EZEE-23
Ja, we set ourselves high standards, don’t we?
1 Aug 2009, 18:25 pm
Spies is playing well, the crowd salutes bakkies what a sight that is
1 Aug 2009, 18:26 pm
Bokke 25 – AB’s 19
1 Aug 2009, 18:26 pm
#344 Hmmm:
Lets keep it a guys secret
1 Aug 2009, 18:26 pm
huge kick mcalister, 1 try game now
1 Aug 2009, 18:26 pm
Great kick Luke. Excellent strike of the ball.
1 Aug 2009, 18:26 pm
good kick, McAllister
1 Aug 2009, 18:26 pm
Donald replaced by McAllister to make the 50 odd meter kick (after the penalty was awarded)…slotted…
Bokke 25 – 19 AB
1 Aug 2009, 18:26 pm
Great kick.
1 Aug 2009, 18:27 pm
#350 timo: Spies is enormous today.
1 Aug 2009, 18:27 pm
Excellent kick Mcphallister
1 Aug 2009, 18:27 pm
After a shocking start to the game, the Black wings are dictating play. SA have to shut them down, starve them of ball.
1 Aug 2009, 18:27 pm
watch the game again Fdp had every opportunity to spin the ball when we had them on the rack on their try line and end result is they come away with a penalty in our 22.
Simply because we didn’t spin the ball. Ab’s with amount of territory and possession as we have had would have closed this game out by now. And its all because we didn’t spin it when they were on the rack early this half that it still a 6 point ball game.
1 Aug 2009, 18:28 pm
JFourie making another tackle causing a knock by the AB’s…
1 Aug 2009, 18:29 pm
#352 Saffa_Guy: President Of The PdV Supporters Club:
Secret safe here Mr…but then again…Keo.co.za has made the news papers before…
1 Aug 2009, 18:29 pm
Bring it on Morne.
1 Aug 2009, 18:29 pm
Morne 28 – AB’s 13
1 Aug 2009, 18:30 pm
#361 skopskiet: FDP keeping it tight, in fairness the centres haven’t made many breaks in the last 4/5 games when they did get ball
1 Aug 2009, 18:30 pm
In die middel cyril !
1 Aug 2009, 18:30 pm
Funny enough, so overall woefully playing ABs with huge penatly count are just 9 points behind the supposedly best team in the world in their own backyard.
1 Aug 2009, 18:30 pm
So is the award going to be: “Man Of The Match” or “Morne Of The Match” …?
1 Aug 2009, 18:30 pm
The Morne Steyn show. all 28 points. Quite amazing.
1 Aug 2009, 18:30 pm
Morne 28 – AB’s 19 sorry
1 Aug 2009, 18:31 pm
AB’s penalised again at the breakdown…
MSteyn slots the penalty…
Bokke 28 – 19 AB;s
1 Aug 2009, 18:31 pm
Good call on danie
1 Aug 2009, 18:31 pm
Still being tormented by AB fan club commentary. Was burning virgins during the Inquisition really that bad?
1 Aug 2009, 18:31 pm
#365 Senga: not good to steal 6 points from ABs
1 Aug 2009, 18:31 pm
Professional foul NZ. Lucky to get away with that.
1 Aug 2009, 18:31 pm
nice pass Weepu
1 Aug 2009, 18:32 pm
Beeeeeeeeaaaaaast
1 Aug 2009, 18:32 pm
#361 skopskiet: Skop put your dentures back. You are mumbling.
FdP huge influence on territorial play. Klaar!!!!
1 Aug 2009, 18:32 pm
Beast a flying machine
1 Aug 2009, 18:32 pm
Bakkies is a legend
1 Aug 2009, 18:32 pm
Mooi Snorre: Danie vir Juan
Beast jou vleuel !
1 Aug 2009, 18:33 pm
Try coming …
1 Aug 2009, 18:33 pm
All-Blacks are diving over the top of the rucks all the time! Cheating ********!
1 Aug 2009, 18:33 pm
Piri makes arguably the best srumhalf pass in test history…from a ruck about 13 meters in passing in straight into the deadball line behind he poles….
1 Aug 2009, 18:33 pm
Boks soaked up pressure magnificently when playing with 14.
1 Aug 2009, 18:33 pm
#375 Nils: I live in a dream world
1 Aug 2009, 18:33 pm
#369 SAFFA
Good call.
1 Aug 2009, 18:33 pm
poor from Bismarck
1 Aug 2009, 18:33 pm
here comes k@k
1 Aug 2009, 18:33 pm
Bismarck really dumb here.
1 Aug 2009, 18:33 pm
Bismarck cool it buddy
1 Aug 2009, 18:34 pm
He’s had a brilliant game
1 Aug 2009, 18:34 pm
Oh JdV!!! What are you doing?
1 Aug 2009, 18:34 pm
another dodgy kiwi lineout….oooo….
1 Aug 2009, 18:34 pm
#387 Senga: it should be good enough for you anyway, as ABs are awful today (and for most of the time this year).
1 Aug 2009, 18:35 pm
our backline don’t know how to break advantage line. We dominating at attrition and pressure rugby but when ball comes out to backline no shape at all. If back line and wings could get some shape and momentum this game would be dead and buried by now. Pienaar and Jacobs would help to get some ‘structure’ into this stagnant back line.
1 Aug 2009, 18:35 pm
Joel just summed up the Bok game plan well
Accurate kicking, huge pressure
Conditions difficult for moving the ball
And its working
1 Aug 2009, 18:35 pm
PDV, as long as you don’t take Mossie off.
1 Aug 2009, 18:35 pm
Another professional foul by NZ
1 Aug 2009, 18:35 pm
hehe, bakkies the head-ripper
1 Aug 2009, 18:35 pm
Dg time mabe
1 Aug 2009, 18:35 pm
Snor has improved his substitutions no end. Mooi skoot.
1 Aug 2009, 18:36 pm
#369 Saffa_Guy: President Of The PdV Supporters Club:
Well unless someone else in the Bokke side score something…LoL
1 Aug 2009, 18:36 pm
Adi on, now the Boks can send it wide
1 Aug 2009, 18:36 pm
looks like ABs leave SA with no points.
1 Aug 2009, 18:36 pm
Good luck adi
1 Aug 2009, 18:37 pm
Ek dink nie ons gaan vir Jean mis.
1 Aug 2009, 18:37 pm
Are we going to have a 2nd game in a row that is 28 – 19…LoL
1 Aug 2009, 18:38 pm
great clear out Habana
1 Aug 2009, 18:38 pm
It’s gonna be a long flight to Auckland
1 Aug 2009, 18:38 pm
It must be noted, conditions are difficult
And we have a new flyhalf whose strength is more suited towards kicking than running
So for today, this conservative approach is the sound approach
1 Aug 2009, 18:38 pm
Habana’s rucking skills are impressive.
1 Aug 2009, 18:38 pm
kom boys get the try and kill the blacks
1 Aug 2009, 18:38 pm
Hope Qantas stocks a lot of tissues on their flights
1 Aug 2009, 18:39 pm
Score to SA coming …
1 Aug 2009, 18:39 pm
that could have been given as a try to habana. he took mcaw out got his hands on the ball which was behind the line?
1 Aug 2009, 18:40 pm
JFourie deserves a try…he has been awesome…
1 Aug 2009, 18:40 pm
blacks are in yellow country
1 Aug 2009, 18:40 pm
Morne 31 – AB’s 19
1 Aug 2009, 18:40 pm
#415 yzerfontein: I wanna laugh but not ready to call it yet.
1 Aug 2009, 18:40 pm
surely the game now
1 Aug 2009, 18:41 pm
SA the team to beat for the next year or two. Keep it coming Boks. Create a legacy. It’s all there if you want it.
1 Aug 2009, 18:41 pm
Morne just a try to become the biggest points scorer in a green try and that against the all blacks
1 Aug 2009, 18:41 pm
Ek dink nie MS moet ons losskakel wees nie … eerder Earl Rose
1 Aug 2009, 18:41 pm
that’s it, Boks win. Awful ABs, better but not by that much Boks.
3N still wide open.
1 Aug 2009, 18:41 pm
Bokke are BOSS – totally out pressure the Kiwi’s
1 Aug 2009, 18:41 pm
MSteyn…holds the highest individual score in 3N history…
1 Aug 2009, 18:41 pm
Another SA score coming …
1 Aug 2009, 18:42 pm
Would like to see the breakdown stats
)
Suspect we gonna look good
And this against the best in the business
We no longer just aggressive at the collision
We skilled to!
(Some gooood coaching and selection
1 Aug 2009, 18:42 pm
Domonated through total pressure and authority
1 Aug 2009, 18:42 pm
Murray Mixtup has now taken to calling calls against the ABs as alleged. Help me Rhonda, Help help me Rhonda.
1 Aug 2009, 18:42 pm
#420 Senga: Funny!
1 Aug 2009, 18:43 pm
Smith smashed by Steyn…BAM!
1 Aug 2009, 18:43 pm
Morne 31 ABs 19
1 Aug 2009, 18:43 pm
its getting tragic now
1 Aug 2009, 18:44 pm
Here it comes … 7 points
1 Aug 2009, 18:44 pm
Is Sivivatu familie van Knockalivaku ?
1 Aug 2009, 18:44 pm
Willy Hyena’s called it quits – wise man
1 Aug 2009, 18:45 pm
MSteyn…holds the highest individual score in 3N history…in his first 3N start…
1 Aug 2009, 18:45 pm
On behalf on all SA fans…. thanks again suzie.
1 Aug 2009, 18:45 pm
what a captain
1 Aug 2009, 18:46 pm
Ricky, some magic and all is forgiven
1 Aug 2009, 18:46 pm
Another awesome cross defensive tackle from JFourie knocking the ball loose…
1 Aug 2009, 18:46 pm
hope pdv did not lose the plot now
1 Aug 2009, 18:46 pm
#441 stormer in a teacup: no no not Suzie – it was the “jet lag”
1 Aug 2009, 18:47 pm
Smitty, take a bow, you legend.
1 Aug 2009, 18:47 pm
Come on Boks, more points
1 Aug 2009, 18:47 pm
Olivier bear hug tackle LOL
1 Aug 2009, 18:47 pm
rokocoko with the elbow to Olivier’s face
1 Aug 2009, 18:47 pm
congratulations SA , with the ref in your pocket you were the better team…
1 Aug 2009, 18:48 pm
That Brussouw sure can fetch beers
1 Aug 2009, 18:48 pm
Three more points coming
1 Aug 2009, 18:48 pm
Bruuuuussssooooowwwww you beauty
1 Aug 2009, 18:48 pm
All replacements on the bench…hope this does not let the AB’s score…
Especially Ralapele cozz he is physically poor…
1 Aug 2009, 18:48 pm
Brussouw & MS – men of the match. Smitty you legend.
1 Aug 2009, 18:48 pm
haha AB’s throwing their toys out
1 Aug 2009, 18:48 pm
Brussow !
1 Aug 2009, 18:48 pm
NZ errors forced by pure bOk pressure and anyone that says different – on your bike
1 Aug 2009, 18:49 pm
Brussow. Bloody hell. Just brilliant. Such strong upper body strength.
Burger has no chance of starting again.
1 Aug 2009, 18:49 pm
#451 poppa69:
We paid him with Kruger Rands
You okes can try a bag of kiwi fruit when we down in NZ
1 Aug 2009, 18:49 pm
he missed!
1 Aug 2009, 18:49 pm
Thanks boys, did us proud.
Thank you All Blacks. Never gave up.
Viva South Africa viva.
Viva rugby viva…………
MOTM is Morne or Assegai.
1 Aug 2009, 18:49 pm
31-19, I told you Boks were better from 1 to 15
1 Aug 2009, 18:49 pm
BOKKE!!!
1 Aug 2009, 18:49 pm
Steyn to rub he salt…
but misses???
1 Aug 2009, 18:49 pm
ABs a bonus point if they score a try, don’t concede a point and find out their mother is a virgin.
1 Aug 2009, 18:49 pm
Well done Boks.
Well done Morne Steyn. Congratulations. Must be MoM.
Barney. Nice job boet.
1 Aug 2009, 18:49 pm
Well done Bokke! congrats John Smit. Morne you beauty!
1 Aug 2009, 18:50 pm
#451 poppa69: Cry baby, as always.
1 Aug 2009, 18:50 pm
bok beflok julle ysters julle maak my lekker kry
1 Aug 2009, 18:50 pm
What’s that red of McCaw’s face – didn’t do his lipstick properly?
1 Aug 2009, 18:51 pm
MORNE OF THE MATCH: MORNE STEYN
TEAM OF THE MATCH: BOKKETEAS
HISTORY MAKER: PDVEEEE!
1 Aug 2009, 18:51 pm
We still havent finished one game off, i suppose the hapless aussies wil now again have to bear the brunt of that frustration lol. I am saying it here if we dont have rain in Cape town 50 is coming up. Its time we erase that 49-0 in any case.
1 Aug 2009, 18:51 pm
#458 Big Hit: and as usual the biggest suck up known to SA voices his pleasure, dont you get sick of the taste of SA on your brown tongue Big Hit ???
thank you ref, you certainly were the difference, another 2 to 1 penalty count… bravo, happened in 07 we were reffed out of the game, happened again tonight..
1 Aug 2009, 18:51 pm
Bokke 31 – 19 AB’s
Final score…
1 Aug 2009, 18:51 pm
NZ dictated from the wings
1 Aug 2009, 18:51 pm
And how fast is Beast. Like a bleddy black Spies.
1 Aug 2009, 18:51 pm
Congratulations, South Africa, deserved win and good pressure. And piss-poor ABs today.
cheers
1 Aug 2009, 18:51 pm
#451 POPPA69
Not so much the ref in the pocket as the points on the board.
1 Aug 2009, 18:51 pm
Worst ALL BLACK performance I have ever seen. Unbelivable option taking in our own half, poor handling and terrible dicipline.
Nice cheating by holding our flankers on the scrum. That is a quality ploy to give Pier Spies a bit of extra room.
**** The SPRINGBOKS are AWESOME with Henric Brussow. The best fetcher going around at the moment! Brings an new element to your game. Skulk can piss off
1 Aug 2009, 18:51 pm
Brilliant!!!
1 Aug 2009, 18:52 pm
33 years of pain ended thanks for Morne Steyn! Here’s a big up yours to all you Morne doubters! I can’t help but think he may of the makings of the best Bok fly-halves around.
1 Aug 2009, 18:52 pm
#464 Big Hit: Nobody likes a know-all……..
1 Aug 2009, 18:52 pm
#471 bdb: BDB, go back to stringing up black people mate… seems all your countrymen are good for !!!!!
1 Aug 2009, 18:52 pm
Wonder if Graham Hendry will chicken out of fronting up to the media again…pakpokpokpok
1 Aug 2009, 18:52 pm
#473 Saffa_Guy: President Of The PdV Supporters Club:
OOPS, OVERLOOKED
OUR GCAPTAIN OF THE DECADE: SMITTY!
1 Aug 2009, 18:52 pm
Brussow and Steyn killed the Ab machine.
Now tell some famous coach about a small fetching no. 6, you reckon he might have gotten the message by now? Brussow is the difference between a win and a loss in this environment. And Morne Steyn has got to be Mom.
1 Aug 2009, 18:52 pm
#474 timo:
We did that last year…Coca Cola park!!!!
1 Aug 2009, 18:53 pm
#475 poppa69: yellow cards in our favour as well?
1 Aug 2009, 18:53 pm
#481 NZMaori: Actually you can. Cheating my foot!
1 Aug 2009, 18:53 pm
#479 Nils: Thanks Nils. Good luck to you and the AB’s.
1 Aug 2009, 18:53 pm
#475 poppa69: Poppa, I disagree. While ref eased Boks task by yellowing Ross I do not think ABs should blame anyone but themselves, so many unforced errors and silly decisions on their own tryline.
Frankly, ABs did not deserve a point from this game, alas.
1 Aug 2009, 18:53 pm
#485 poppa69: Come on bud. That’s beyond banter. Apology due please.
1 Aug 2009, 18:54 pm
#488 skopskiet: you talking about Jake White or Piet Snor?
1 Aug 2009, 18:54 pm
To echo the the NZ media this Bokketea team has added new dimensions to their play
Bring on the Aussies
Next week gonna be a cracker
1 Aug 2009, 18:54 pm
#475 POPPA69
N0-one gets tired of the taste of SA.
1 Aug 2009, 18:54 pm
#485 poppa69: Cry me a river, be a good sportsman, mate ?
1 Aug 2009, 18:54 pm
#488 skopskiet: Oh for goodness sake give it a break.
We have just won dammit!!!!
1 Aug 2009, 18:54 pm
#474 timo: We already erased that last year by handing the Aussies the mother of all ***-whoopings at Ellis Park – 53-3!
1 Aug 2009, 18:54 pm
#491 Senga: I agree bakkies didnt deserve his, but game was over at half time, you know it , I know it… all I was asking for was consistency, but I know none of you guys will admit you got the rub of the green, again!!!
1 Aug 2009, 18:54 pm
#481 NZMaori:
Well they had to cozz Kaino was breaking off before he ball was put into the scrum to halter Spies!??!
1 Aug 2009, 18:54 pm
#492 sglazer: Thanks, man, cheers for you, too. ABs will bounce back, it just seems will require more time than anticipated. they are into deep ***** now, still others aren’t THAT much better to fall into despair. for now.
1 Aug 2009, 18:55 pm
#478 SodaJoe: True dat
1 Aug 2009, 18:55 pm
#493 Nils: I think we got the rub of the green some of the game.
But overall the best team won.
AB’s made terrible mistakes and stupid decisions. I have never seen that from an AB team before. Ever.
1 Aug 2009, 18:55 pm
#503 Hmmm: so was farkin smit, but dont let the farkin truth blind you champ… seems only one side got penalised for it…
1 Aug 2009, 18:56 pm
#488 skopskiet: You were one of them who was doubting Morne Steyn…now you’re licking his arse – Skop is a hypocrite of note!
1 Aug 2009, 18:56 pm
#475 poppa69:
Come on Popps, you are better than that………
1 Aug 2009, 18:56 pm
The AB’s must clean their game up. Lots of professional fouls. Many not called by the ref.
1 Aug 2009, 18:56 pm
#505 SodaJoe: yes, i agree. better team won and abs were kak. which do not happen every day.
1 Aug 2009, 18:57 pm
#509 whatever: sorry whatever, but if you guys won fair and square you know Id be the first to congratulate, but I cant when its so bleedin obvious…
1 Aug 2009, 18:58 pm
#507 Crouching Tiger Hidden Bokke: He just called Morne MoM. How’s that hypocritical?
1 Aug 2009, 18:58 pm
#503 Nils: Rebuilding. Every team goes through it. probably won’t be long. Also, I think the AB’s decided not to peak between world cups. I feel for you and your team.
1 Aug 2009, 18:58 pm
#485 poppa69:
Thats a shocker dude……….???
1 Aug 2009, 18:58 pm
Boks by 12……what a prediction, wish i had put some money on it!
1 Aug 2009, 18:58 pm
#451 poppa69:
With or without…
Did the ref knock on passes?
Did the ref miss the kicks?
Did the ref cheat at the breakdown?
Did the ref give SA 2 yellow cards?
There is only one right answer above!!!
And non in favour of the Bokke!!!!
1 Aug 2009, 18:59 pm
#475 poppa69: your boys never gave up poppa, you should be proud. Can’t win them all.
1 Aug 2009, 18:59 pm
#511 poppa69: No problem with your disappointment. But the “stringing up..” reference still requires an apology.
1 Aug 2009, 18:59 pm
History will I’m sure, show that this team is really the product of both Jake and PdV, so those you champion one or the other should reflect on this.
1 Aug 2009, 18:59 pm
Pienaar still first choice I think. Morne for wet games and on the bench.
1 Aug 2009, 18:59 pm
Smit – a true South African legend!
1 Aug 2009, 19:00 pm
#511 poppa69:
From my seat I also had problems with the ref mate, but you can’t blame the ref here. Your boys were second best. Simple!
1 Aug 2009, 19:00 pm
#517 Big Hit: Agreed. They played awfully, but never without pride.
1 Aug 2009, 19:00 pm
#506 poppa69:
Your shoulder must be bound (touching)…not your finger tips…go check again…want me to send you a recording of the game!!!
1 Aug 2009, 19:00 pm
as a man who likes ruan i must say morras you da man.continue like this and you will be a legend,just keep out of huisgenoot congrats
1 Aug 2009, 19:01 pm
#519 stormer in a teacup: Bollocks.
1 Aug 2009, 19:01 pm
#485 poppa69: You owe us an apology Poppa69. This is disgusting.
1 Aug 2009, 19:01 pm
#520 sglazer: Nope. He did enough to hold on to the jersey. In all facets.
Biggest disappointment today was JdV.
1 Aug 2009, 19:01 pm
#516 Hmmm:
And to add…
Did the ref play 60% odd of the game in his own half!!!
1 Aug 2009, 19:02 pm
#520 sglazer: What?! Morne Steyn just single-handedly demolish the ABs and you’re still not convinced…eish!!
1 Aug 2009, 19:02 pm
#527 sglazer: yup.
1 Aug 2009, 19:03 pm
#517 Hmmm: did the ref yellow a man that was completely correct in kicking the ball that wasnt in the ruck ?
did the ref award a certain 3 points while the man was still trying to take the ball in the air ??
what was the penalty count ? seemed whenever the black had the ball on attack, SA were angels, when SA had the ball, the hand couldnt come up quick enough…
yes he cheated at the breakdown, only pinging one side for their infringements , a la 07… but cool, if the rest of the world can only beat the ABs by cheating
FAIR FARKIN SHAKE OF THE SAV !!!
1 Aug 2009, 19:03 pm
#522 whatever:
He was a bit technical and issued a lot of penalties (against both teams)…
The Ross and Bakkies yellows a bit harsh..although not incorrect…was within the law…
1 Aug 2009, 19:04 pm
#532 poppa69: apologize. Be a man. Like your team.
1 Aug 2009, 19:04 pm
#532 poppa69: ref was a complete lottery poppa, NZ had a few harsh calls but the territory was 72% to 28% to SA, can’t be argued with.
1 Aug 2009, 19:04 pm
If anyone thought PDV was on the way out,they are wrong.
Henry is more likely to get his marching orders.
Must be hard to find a decent front row with Oliver,Meeuws,
Heyman all applying their trade overseas.
He wouldn’t go wrong in bringing Chris Jack back at lock,
because Thorne and Ross simply dont cope and that is the long
and short of the ABs story,they are simply no match for the
Boks up front.
1 Aug 2009, 19:04 pm
#532 poppa69:
aaahhhh sour grapes…….disappointing dude!
1 Aug 2009, 19:04 pm
#528 SodaJoe: It’s great to have Morne, but I still think Ruan brings more to the game, bar kicking of course.
JDV made some good tackles, but didn’t break the line. Our backline did not fire. It was scattered, but I suppose it didn’t let them through.
1 Aug 2009, 19:05 pm
#501 POPPA69
Your pain is showing, no harm in that, but a bit of sensitivity won’t hurt. We got the rub of the green, at times. but look at the stats. the Boks dominated territory, posession and time in opposition 22, therefore, no arguing with the outcome.
1 Aug 2009, 19:05 pm
#534 Hmmm: not incorrect… the ball was behind the last feet at the ruck, which in my books constitutes that it was available.. the fact Ross got there first must have annoyed the ref, hence the yellow card.. pathetic
and I agree, Bakkies should never have been…
1 Aug 2009, 19:06 pm
As we are blessed in the midfield
We are also blessed with young flyhalf talent
Rather than running down the one above the other
We should rather focus on ways to utilise the fortunate situation to our advantage
Not only a rugby lesson, a life lesson
1 Aug 2009, 19:06 pm
#513 sglazer: yes, and this is the thing which pleases me – that ABs do not risk any premature peaking in the near future as it’s hard to peak from WC (ant that’s not World cup
)
And ABs cannot really blame the ref today, yes, he made some crucial decisions (like Ross carding) which swung game in Boks way but I honestly do not see how ABs would have won this game apart from big upset try from moment of brilliance – ABs were awful for almost all game, bar some bright moments.
1 Aug 2009, 19:06 pm
#532 poppa69: I know how you feel and I feel for you. But your thought was insulting and disgusting.
1 Aug 2009, 19:07 pm
#540 stormer in a teacup: because of the piggy backs, look again without the blind parochialism and you will see IM right…
1 Aug 2009, 19:07 pm
Ref gave Boks 2 yellows. Nonu should have been yellow’d at the end of the 1st half. AB constantly giving away penalties in their own 22 yet no yellow in the second half.
Yeah right, the ref was against them.
Grow up. Boks were better.
1 Aug 2009, 19:07 pm
South Africa won quite easily at the end. I was really hoping for a real contest.Blame the rain? The All Blacks were ratled through out the second half. Certainly SA deserved to win no doubt. Congratulation to PdV as well. Hope people suffering from PHD (pull him down) syndrome will give him the respect he deserves.
But All Blacks will be back, mark my words.
1 Aug 2009, 19:08 pm
#544 sglazer: alright Glazer, I apologise for that, was uncalled for and if I had the time again I wouldnt have said it…
1 Aug 2009, 19:08 pm
#538 sglazer: I am a Ruan fan. I just don’t think he has 31 points in him. Against the AB’s.
1 Aug 2009, 19:09 pm
Boks were better!
2 wins in a row.
Number one in the rankings.
Zero bonus points for the All Blacks!
1 Aug 2009, 19:10 pm
alright, outta here.
Congrats, SA folks, and enjoy the moment!
P.S. ABs will be back. When? I do not know. But they will. Just wait.
Cheers
1 Aug 2009, 19:10 pm
#547 poppa69: well done. nothing less than what I expected from you.
1 Aug 2009, 19:10 pm
bye everyone.
1 Aug 2009, 19:10 pm
#542 Nils: I agree. NZ have lost some key frontline players to Europe and are struggling to fill these holes.
1 Aug 2009, 19:11 pm
#532 poppa69:
No
No
Why?
SA got penalised quite a bit too…but in the first 20 NZ made purposeful infringements…”professional fouls” when on the back foot…
The AB’s did counter very well…but knocked he ball on whenever it looked like they were going to score…
What were the handling errors by the AB’s? close to 30? Not even mentioning incomplete passes…not even mentioning being dumb (running out of you goaline just to be tackled back/not marking the ball in the 22 fielding wel chased kicks)
Naas Botha just showed now in the post match analysis how the AB’s purposefully blocked ball carriers…froze the picture where the AB;s were looking at the would be SA defender and moving in front!!!!
You cannot use the penalty count as an excuse why the ref was bad…when the AB’s purposefully played the spoiling game…
1 Aug 2009, 19:11 pm
#540 poppa69: Get a grip on your emotions. You letting yourself down and trying to rationalize your comments.
1 Aug 2009, 19:11 pm
#547 poppa69: Thank you. I know you’re hurting. That feeling is awful. I wish you well. NZ will be back.
1 Aug 2009, 19:12 pm
one only has to look at the penalty that got SA from 28-19 to 31-19…
the ball was knocked on by SA in the ensuing play before the penalty, tell me Im wrong and I will never grace this blog again…
1 Aug 2009, 19:12 pm
#544 POPPA69
You are blasting your own post, china. What are you on about?
1 Aug 2009, 19:13 pm
#553 sglazer: Blaaa, Blaaa, Blaaa, Blaaa – lets give credit where its due – its not because of this or that – its simple only one reason – the BOKKE performance was fantastic – simple good game paln which placed pressure on the Kiwi’s and they folded – PDV and team – great.
1 Aug 2009, 19:14 pm
#540 poppa69:
So then the ref was consistent!!!!
Two yellow card for professional fouls!!! Even though we as spectators feels they were harsh!!!
1 Aug 2009, 19:14 pm
Have to question the ABs tactics though. What on earth were they trying to do in those conditions? At times it looked like 7s when NZ attacked, totally disjointed and lacking in leadership. Full credit to the Boks for another disciplined and controlled display, it really was men against boys out there.
1 Aug 2009, 19:15 pm
Forget about the Ref.It was painfully clear for all to see
the Abs were outplayed,out muscled up front.Unless they find
a pack to match the Boks not even Dan Carter at his brilliant best will be able to rescue them.
Their wingers with space denied looked quite ordinary
1 Aug 2009, 19:16 pm
#557 POPPA69
You are so wrong, you have Phd in wrongness at the university of the SoWrong. But please don’t leave. It is the darkness that makes us appreciate the light.
1 Aug 2009, 19:16 pm
#561 Hmmm: consistent was he. what was the final penalty count ??
1 Aug 2009, 19:17 pm
#544 poppa69:
Commiseration Poppa
The man in the middle is once again the point of focus. Bakkies and Roos certainly did not deserve the cards. Something must be done about the referees. They must not be in the limelight after each contests. Very sad.
All Blacks are out of the competition I should think. But you never know, with three games to go. Can happen but very unlikely.
1 Aug 2009, 19:17 pm
#524 Hmmm: How do you bind with your shoulder? Have you never played rugby? I get what you mean thou. I think being bound should be still pusinh against the prop infront of you
1 Aug 2009, 19:17 pm
#557 poppa69: Mate give it up. I see where you’re coming from with a few of your points, but you can’t seriously be suggesting the ref was the difference between the sides!? Look at the mistakes made by the ABs, look at the territory and possession stats and the penalties conceded. Fact is the team giving pressure more often than not gets the rub of the green with the referee. NZ have benefited from this in the past, suck it up and quit whining!
1 Aug 2009, 19:17 pm
#564 stormer in a teacup: how am I so wrong stormer, detail it for me ???
1 Aug 2009, 19:18 pm
Can never understand why an opposition supporter would come onto a Saffa site and spoil the warm feeling of Bokke supporters.
Why not just stuff off and come back tomorrow to dissect the game.
For now we just want to enjoy the moment FFS.
1 Aug 2009, 19:18 pm
The team going backwards gives away more penalties.
The team losing the collisions give away more penalties.
The team under the pump gives away more penalties.
1 Aug 2009, 19:19 pm
Congrats to the Boks and South African fans. We were outplayed again today.
1 Aug 2009, 19:19 pm
#397 skopskiet: The team was playing the conditions. The AB’s were ‘breaking the line more often and look what it brought them. Don’t let your prejudice against certain players cloud your judgement!
1 Aug 2009, 19:19 pm
#557 poppa69: ploppa, floppa, succka – what ever you want to be called, lets rewind to the NZ try, phase before the try – what about the forward pass that was not blown ……the Bokke won and there is nothing, but nothing that changes that – win was from pressure that got the Kiwi’s into a flap – looking forward to away wins – if you a Saffa, start supporting instead of stagging, if not – get off the blog..chop
1 Aug 2009, 19:19 pm
#559 Rugbystud: Without doubt this SA team is stronger than the AB’s. And what makes it impressive is that it has been forged on endurance from extra travel in Super Rugby and the Tri-Nations. It has hardened the players.
Now they can create a legacy that could last all the way to the next world cup.
1 Aug 2009, 19:19 pm
#564 POPPA69
The penalty count was as follows; Ab infringements = penalty. Bok infringements = penalty. The way it should be.
1 Aug 2009, 19:19 pm
#568 jonnymain: ok Johnny, so how do you explain 07 if the team giving most pressure doesnt get the penalties ??????????
1 Aug 2009, 19:19 pm
#540 poppa69:
Oh and the ball was inside Bismark’s right leg!!!!! So a def penalty…but yellow was harsh…
1 Aug 2009, 19:19 pm
#557 poppa69: Ever thought about being a ref? I’m sure you’d be great at it. Fact is the blacks couldn’t get on the front foot and made some pretty poor decisions. Handling errors and shocking line-outs were your worst enemy, not the ref. It’s like Wayne Barnes all over again, have a bit of grace dude.
1 Aug 2009, 19:20 pm
#565 Peter Mkata: Why? He is damn set on spoiling our fun.
Like a bloody kindergarten tot.
1 Aug 2009, 19:21 pm
#571 Dantalian: like the French in 07, open your other farkin blind eye…
1 Aug 2009, 19:21 pm
Just the coaching staff with their inexperience are a current weakness. The bench is wrong.
1 Aug 2009, 19:21 pm
#568 poppa69: Bowls viewing on channel – 00000
1 Aug 2009, 19:21 pm
#564 poppa69:
That just says the discipline of the teams were not consistent…
1 Aug 2009, 19:22 pm
#576 poppa69: I’d stop posting now if I were you! Like some salt with your chips?
1 Aug 2009, 19:22 pm
#578 Hmmm: Ive already siad Bakkies yellow was harsh… so whats your farken point ?
1 Aug 2009, 19:22 pm
#571 chch: Cheers pal
1 Aug 2009, 19:23 pm
#566 NZMaori:
Did you miss the part in inverted coma’s????
“touching”
Have you ever read before?
1 Aug 2009, 19:23 pm
#580 poppa69: Open yours dear fellow. Your team lost to a better team. Be an adult about it.
1 Aug 2009, 19:24 pm
#500 Crouching Tiger Hidden Bokke: Its just i get this feelings that someone is gonna get a moerse hiding soon, wait that actually what old snor said last year. I sure can see that happening. The aussies just does not have the guts of the AB’s they hung in there. They did look a bit like headless chooks though lol. The pass by mealamu man that was just a classic. Doubt even Victor could have caught that. Morne kicked but I think Victor huants these guys.
1 Aug 2009, 19:24 pm
Ive always been gracious in defeat the 2 years Ive been on here, unlike many farkin SA’s in victory…
1 Aug 2009, 19:25 pm
#585 poppa69:
That we both had one!!!
But we were not crying about Bakkies’ even though both cost 3 points!!!!
1 Aug 2009, 19:25 pm
#580 poppa69: Your team was suffocated by a better team. They gave all they got and came up short. Nothing to do with the ref.
1 Aug 2009, 19:25 pm
#574 sglazer: Lets hope, but there are also so special players that have only come in to the game – it really is exciting..
1 Aug 2009, 19:25 pm
#589 Dantalian: hahah thats a farkin joke… be an adult about it, like the last ten years whenever SA lost…
1 Aug 2009, 19:25 pm
And if you need some more food for thought Poppa, just think how difficult it was to pick a MOTM for the Boks. So many candidates. Steyn, Fourie, Brussouw, Bakkies, Bismark, all great performances. I know you are dissapointed, but give credit where it is due.
1 Aug 2009, 19:25 pm
#552 SodaJoe: later soda
1 Aug 2009, 19:26 pm
#593 Dantalian: ok, so when SA’s lose, its ok to blame the ref, when NZ lose, its not ok to blame the ref…
you guys are pathetic!!!
1 Aug 2009, 19:27 pm
#571 chch:
Thanks CHCH…
poppa69 says we won because of the ref!!! LoL
But what is up with your team and their deliberate infringements (mostly in the first 20)…seems they were not focusing on the right things?
1 Aug 2009, 19:27 pm
#590 poppa69: Nob chop – I dont think you know were you are – where are you do you know…??
1 Aug 2009, 19:27 pm
#594 poppa69: What was that my mother taught me about two wrongs?
Take in on the chin old chap. No disgrace losing to a better side.
1 Aug 2009, 19:27 pm
#596 JockBok: why should I jock, SA’s havent in the past… have they ??
1 Aug 2009, 19:28 pm
#597 poppa69: There will always be some people who blame the ref.
And they are always from the losing side.
Be strong. The Boks were better on the day.
1 Aug 2009, 19:29 pm
#600 Rugbystud: FARK YOU !!!!
1 Aug 2009, 19:29 pm
#597 poppa69:
We all said the ref was harsh..but in no ones favor…look at your team for your answers…
1 Aug 2009, 19:31 pm
#605 Hmmm: really, why is it that no one has still posted the actual penalty count, could it be theres some truth in my statement ??
1 Aug 2009, 19:31 pm
#580 POPPA69.
You really are a gem. Now turning on your logic.
1. #568. your answer is in your own question.
2, Reflexively returning to 2007.
Nobody benefits by trying to rewrite history.
A little more acceptance will probably amke for a happier POPPA.
1 Aug 2009, 19:31 pm
#601 poppa69: I feel your pain bud. We have felt it for many years now. Your team will come back!
Well done PdV and our team, you guys are MAGIC! Morne you are a thoroughbred no 10!
1 Aug 2009, 19:31 pm
#603 Dantalian: I know, Ive seen MANY MANY MANY SA”s use it in the past… so whats your point ???
1 Aug 2009, 19:32 pm
#603 poppa69: That just proves you lost – sorry bud but I am not a ring raider and quioet frankly your agrument is poor and your team looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooost – go home you ignorant chop!!!!!!!!!!!
1 Aug 2009, 19:32 pm
#485 poppa69: Ouch … does losing hurt that much? What drivel …
Your team cracked under pressure – that’s all. No need to belittle yourself with such responses – it reflects more on you than your target … us boers … 
1 Aug 2009, 19:33 pm
#605 poppa69: Just because the weaker team gives away more penalties doesn’t mean the ref wasn’t fair.
It means they weren’t up to the task and had to resort to underhand tactics to try and stay in the game.
Happens all the time.
1 Aug 2009, 19:33 pm
#608 poppa69: That easy – Mc.. chop was poor – Brussow is a demon!!!!!!!
Bye now
1 Aug 2009, 19:33 pm
#608 poppa69: I’ll give you a moment to mull it over.
1 Aug 2009, 19:33 pm
#532 poppa69: And you never saw McAllisters check on Jean de Villiers chasing a up-and-under … for instance?
1 Aug 2009, 19:34 pm
#603 poppa69: Poppa, jy tree op soos ‘n poppie en nie ‘n poppa nie, en as jy so aangaan, gaan daar nou nou ‘n aar in jou kop ‘poppa’.
1 Aug 2009, 19:34 pm
#605 poppa69: Nobody has bothered because your argument is flawed. The ABs were pinged more because they infringed more, it’s fairly simple really. The team defending for most of the match tends to give up more penalties.
1 Aug 2009, 19:34 pm
#601 poppa69: I think they have mate. You’re p!ssed and I don’t blame you. But you should be looking to your own sides failings, because there are plently of them. I know stats can be misleading, but have a look at the line out and handling errors, these don’t lie and are down to no one but yourself. Refs often get it wrong, and today he got a few things wrong for both sides, but ultimately the AB’s only have themselves to blame. I’m sure you’ll see it this way when you’re over your dissapointment.
Bottom line. The Boks played well, The Blacks didn’t.
1 Aug 2009, 19:34 pm
Poppal has lost it……….
1 Aug 2009, 19:35 pm
#605 poppa69:
No cozz we never argued that you conceded more….but cozz you cheated more….not because he ref made stuff up!!!!!
1 Aug 2009, 19:35 pm
Must be the ref that caused the AB lineout to be shite for 3 games in a row.
Piss poor for a top class international side.
1 Aug 2009, 19:35 pm
#616 bdb: care to translate, I dont speak afrikaans…???
1 Aug 2009, 19:36 pm
#598 Hmmm:
Must be confusing for our players when the primary objective is for the coach to keep his job
1 Aug 2009, 19:36 pm
#618 Bul-a-Bhloo:
I don’t think he will get that!!!
1 Aug 2009, 19:36 pm
#579 Bul-a-Bhloo:
Come on man, man is in pain. He will come right – just give him a break!
On a serious note he has a point about officiating standard – inconsistencies. I do not think the refs are cheats but man the inconcistencies are spoiling the game.
1 Aug 2009, 19:36 pm
#616 jonnymain: I reckon Scotland could have turned over the AB’s today Jonny, hey?
Okay, only kidding
1 Aug 2009, 19:37 pm
Gents – does Poppa realise 69 is a poss in the shower…well maybe not
1 Aug 2009, 19:37 pm
And to be frank the Boks also made a lot of mistakes and conditions were poor.
All Blacks can count themselves lucky to get of so lightly.
1 Aug 2009, 19:38 pm
#619 Hmmm: He is trying to understand what you have stated……
1 Aug 2009, 19:38 pm
#627 Rugbystud: I guesss youd know all about that, being the bend over boy everyone talks about…
1 Aug 2009, 19:38 pm
#593 Rugbystud: It’s just the thinking of the coaching staff that is a concern. The thinking around the bench is wrong. Thankfully there’s hope they will learn.
1 Aug 2009, 19:39 pm
#627 Dantalian: Absolutely
1 Aug 2009, 19:39 pm
#564 poppa69: Aaag jeez man. Are you suggesting that if a ref is consistent the penalty count will always be even??? Get over your disappointment and talk sense!!
1 Aug 2009, 19:39 pm
#622 chch:
I don’t know enough about that to comment…but surely sad to see AB’s using spoiling tactics so much it seemed like the primary game plan…
And sad if that is the case…
Can you rebuild in 2 years before the WC with a new coach if it comes to that?
1 Aug 2009, 19:39 pm
South Africa:
15 Frans Steyn, 8.5
14 JP Pietersen,7
13 Jaque Fourie, 9
12 Jean de Villiers,5
11 Bryan Habana,8
10 Morné Steyn, 8.5
9 Fourie du Preez,8
8 Pierre Spies,6.5
7 Juan Smith,7
6 Heinrich Brüssow,8.5
5 Victor Matfield,7
4 Bakkies Botha,8.5
3 John Smit (captain),8
2 Bismarck du Plessis,9
1 Tendai Mtawarira.8
Replacements:
16 Chiliboy Ralepelle,
17 Jannie du Plessis,7
18 Andries Bekker,
19 Danie Rossouw,
20 Ricky Januarie,
21 Adi Jacobs,
22 Wynand Olivier
no reserves really warrant a rating they played way to little except maybe jannie dup that played longer then the others
1 Aug 2009, 19:39 pm
#621 poppa69: snack ! crackle ! pop(pa) ! … You have lost it my friend, but I have allready forgiven you, mate.
1 Aug 2009, 19:40 pm
#629 poppa69: Welcome back, are you still sore from last night, it must really hurt having a double wammy…
1 Aug 2009, 19:41 pm
#590 poppa69: Well that statement will not be true in the future will it?
1 Aug 2009, 19:41 pm
#625 JockBok: Haha steady mate! ABs seem to have lost the ability to mix the rough stuff with the flashy – they were all over the place today. To be honest the Boks are only now starting to fulfil their true potential, this should have been happening last year but I suppose the transition phase of a new coaching team has to be taken in to account. Can see the Wallabies posing more of a threat this season to the Boks, absolutely vital the boys don’t lose focus and let them in the door next week!
1 Aug 2009, 19:41 pm
#634 sharks_lover: SL, wie sal jy volgende week boklosskakel speel ?
1 Aug 2009, 19:42 pm
#634 sharks_lover:
J Fourie only 9??????
Who was this dumb person doing the scoring…
1 Aug 2009, 19:42 pm
#632 kwaailight: He does not have the brain power and it has been established that he has a hormone problem
1 Aug 2009, 19:42 pm
#624 Peter Mkata: Nonsense. He is magnanimous as long as his team is winning and a real d00s when they are well buried.
Best he stuffs off and comes back when he has better control of his emotions…….
He is spoiling our fun on our site!
1 Aug 2009, 19:43 pm
the fact is the blacks tight 5 are not up to it.no tighthead is good enough at 21 ross not phisycal at all.both hookers are not a match for bismarck.only woodcock was up to standard,and the loosies suffered because of it
1 Aug 2009, 19:44 pm
#625 Peter Mkata: Peter, its all good mate, I appreciate you kindness, but no need mate…
The fact that the “BEST BOK TEam” ever has won two tests against the SA “labelled worst AB team ever” really gets to them more then me…
That the cream of SA talent (maybe the best team ever I heard on these blogs) could only put a 15 point win against a NZ side that is so out of sorts must damage their psyche no end…
que sera sera
Im much prouder of my teams history then they will ever be, any team that suffers the ignominy of not scoring a point against the Aussies, well, nothing further needs be added…
and then 50 by the English…
Congrats SA, a good win…
1 Aug 2009, 19:44 pm
#642 Bul-a-Bhloo: Atleast Poppa is here to face the music and not absent like so many others!
1 Aug 2009, 19:45 pm
#643 smallies72: Don’t you think Bismark has stepped up his game not only in th etight but also loose – steeling ball was great.
1 Aug 2009, 19:46 pm
#628 Rugbystud:
Oh he is not going to get it…that was like the 7 post on that…I just did not want to come across rude by not answering…
1 Aug 2009, 19:46 pm
Just got back and only missed 10 minutes of the game. There was a pub next to where my wifes cars’ battery had failed!
I see Poppa69 is moaning again. The ref was tough but consistent. What are you moaning about Poppa, I haven’t had a chance to read the whole thread. I wonder how Cane will feel when he wakes up in the morning?
The Boks harrassing was awesome and we all know the ABs panic under pressure.
One thing though, I think our guys should get some tighter shorts, like the ABs. I lost count of the number of desperate tackles the ABs made by grabbing a Boks shorts.
1 Aug 2009, 19:47 pm
#643 Bul-a-Bhloo: really, was I magnanimous last week when I congratulated the SA’s for their convincing victory ?? must have missed that one huh ??????
1 Aug 2009, 19:47 pm
en hoe het ek geweet jy sal dit vra??
#639 bdb: kinda sad really as i can sit with you and show you quite a few errors etc by morne , infact our wings only got the ball twice ,
fact is i have told you before i have no problem who starts , ruan or morne, to me either way we have a excellent no 10 on the field
and to answer your question , id still play morne
ruan firstly must heal that injury first , and work on his confidence when kicking
i ask you this question,, do you think PS played well today ??
1 Aug 2009, 19:47 pm
#644 poppa69: What’s your opinion of the current AB side?
1 Aug 2009, 19:47 pm
#645 AB Bullsbok Show respect in Victory guys!: Better he is absent so we can celebrate our win……
1 Aug 2009, 19:47 pm
#638 jonnymain: Didn’t see the Aus-AB game but I believe the Aussies played well and the Blacks only came right towards the end. But the Boks must surely be confident now and that counts for much. They managed to contain the Blacks in their own half and also close them down when they looked dangerous when they sliced through the midfield once or twice. Brussouw really is a diamond and counters McCaw to the point of nulifying him. Boks by 10-15 for me.
1 Aug 2009, 19:48 pm
#640 Hmmm:
well he and bismark were huge
and i was calling for jaque as MOM
1 Aug 2009, 19:49 pm
#644 poppa69: You bent and on something ? – Have you ever won a world cup ??????
1 Aug 2009, 19:50 pm
#648 David: cane didn’t feel too good before he fell asleep so I’m not sure he’ll be much better in the morning
Forgive Poppa, we’ve all been in his position, it’s a real ***** and sometimes we need to vent.
1 Aug 2009, 19:50 pm
POPPA
We love your posts. ad another dimension to the view. We as rugby fans also understand your pain…. but its time you showed some grace. It will benefit you in the long term. Be honest, the ref did not cost you the game. You were beaten by a better team. That is what sport is about. Be proud, your boys went out and fought like the excellent combatants that they are. They will admit their failures, otherwise they will never progrss. They will be back,but this moment belongs to the Boks. Peace bro.
1 Aug 2009, 19:51 pm
#649 poppa69: Don’t miss much of what you say, you so damn persistent.
Go to bed and try to restore your dignity tomorrow. You can plead temporary insanity. We will forgive.
1 Aug 2009, 19:51 pm
#644 poppa69:
Definitely not the best Bok team ever!!!!
1 Aug 2009, 19:51 pm
#653 JockBok: Difference for me will be in the tight 5, where I actually rate the Aussies more highly than the current ABs, and the error count. Can’t see the Aussies making as many silly mistakes and trying to play from inside their own 22.
1 Aug 2009, 19:51 pm
#647 Hmmm: You got to worry about them for a sec and then have a whiskey and say – tough and turn the steak….
1 Aug 2009, 19:52 pm
#649 poppa69: Hehehe … you’ve wiped that one clean off the table this time … I am surprised you managed to spell ‘magnanimous’ this time …
1 Aug 2009, 19:53 pm
#650 sharks_lover: Spies het baie goed gespeel, soos Bob en Wiese ook opgemerk het, klassieke agsteman spel, veral in die nat weer.
Volgende spelers het vir my uitgestaan:
FS
JF
skakelpaar
Bismark
Bakkies
Brussow
1 Aug 2009, 19:54 pm
#644 poppa69: Remember, SA teams have had by far the more onerous travel schedules in Super Rugby and Tri-Nations, and it has been during this period that NZ have pushed ahead.
1 Aug 2009, 19:54 pm
#654 sharks_lover:
Yeh Bismark tackled Kaino twice and stole the ball and 1 other time…
They were massive…Mills/Joe/Sivi took a few hard cross defensive hits from J Fourie….
1 Aug 2009, 19:56 pm
#633 Hmmm:
No. The extension has now been given to GH. We through the French trophy to win a game and keep GHs job. It was one of the lamest moments in my All Black memory.
Everyone here is watching Rugby League. I even had some bar twat earlier today trying to tell me that South Sydney vs Brisbane Broncos was local sport and so he could not change the channel. When I pointed out that we had one League side on the competition and they were just a renamed Auckland who got the position through money because the Canterbury League side had actually won the last three seasons before Auckland got awarded the spot and also that we were in a bar with friggen 200 pictures of the Canterbury side on the wall I thought he was going to throw me out. The idiot also seemed to think that having Aussie Rules on 6 TVs while the rugby was on 2 was fine too. The new generation of New Zealanders seems to include an additional 10% Bogans and 10% Pee Heads. TV3 and the bend over and take someone elses culture up your arse attitude is something I used to make fun of Australians for. The NZRU are have made it all about World Cups and it has killed the game to a large extent.
It is had to see the glory days of crowds coming back in NZ. With less support it is hard to imagine that we will ever dominate again
1 Aug 2009, 19:56 pm
#662 kwaailight: How did he do that. He just revealed that it was a loaded congratulation all along.
Or do you actually agree with his conduct tonight?
To me his true colors came through big time.
1 Aug 2009, 19:56 pm
#663 bdb: kyk na my ratings dan sal jy sien ons stem meestal saam
what did dissapoint me a bit about spies is he tried to much on his own , the same move over and over
but yes he didnt play badly
1 Aug 2009, 19:57 pm
#656 Rugbystud: yep, in 87
#652 jonnymain: my opinion of the current side ? not a scratch on what they were, but when you look at the forwards and understand that half of them are either new or coming back from injury, not too bad really… the fact that they will improve with game time together is a good thing, because I dont believe SA can play to any higher level… they have peaked, and many of them if they win the 3Ns this year will be off… love to see SA have to handle the same situation…
#659 Bul-a-Bhloo: no need to plead anything, I wear my heart on my sleeve, always have, always will, and Im willing to die for that, are you ???
1 Aug 2009, 19:57 pm
#644 poppa69:
Poppa, you must know by now that we are by and large one eyed and the word humble is non existent in our vocabulary. Beating the All Blacks is not something that happens every now and then. Even my boys are rubbing it on me.
What I would like to see now is the reaction of Keo’s typist considering their recent campaign to rid us of PdV as a Bok coach.
1 Aug 2009, 19:57 pm
Our bench, our backline penetration, and blooding replacements for our frontline players at the right time, these are our main challenges.
1 Aug 2009, 19:57 pm
2-0 to the Boks.
World order restored.
Die Kaap is weer hollands.
1 Aug 2009, 19:57 pm
#663 bdb: Agreed. I’d even go further and say it was one of his best games in the Green and Gold.
1 Aug 2009, 19:57 pm
#660 jonnymain: Yep, roll on next weekend. I’m so bluddy chuffed I managed to get DStv sorted out cos I’m in Togo for the next 9 months or so. Rugby on tap and no Mrs to get on my case about cutting the grass or painting the garden fence. Ah, weekends are good again. Pity Supersport are ignoring the Currie Cup though.
1 Aug 2009, 19:58 pm
#665 Hmmm: agreed . JF was huge and showed hunger to do well
FS is become some fullback , ur thoughts?
and hmmm i know robD hates him lol , but what a loss for the sharks
1 Aug 2009, 19:59 pm
#668 sharks_lover: Julle moet FS terugkoop en net heelagter speel. Daai franse gaan sy kop deurmekaar maak en hom weer losskakel speel.
1 Aug 2009, 20:00 pm
#676 bdb:
1 Aug 2009, 20:01 pm
#666 chch: sorry for grammar, spelling and rant
1 Aug 2009, 20:01 pm
#668 Bul-a-Bhloo: my true colours huh… so, you are willing to judge me on one weeks of posting, not the 2 years were I have been more then gracious and fair in my posts… think that says more about you then it ever will about me…
1 Aug 2009, 20:01 pm
Frans Steyn was hugely instrumental in turning the tide of this game. Twice he kicked up field from a defensive situation from our own 22 which resulted in points.
We were trailing in the first half when F. Steyn booted it up from our defense when they were on the attack once right into the corner which turned into points.
1 Aug 2009, 20:02 pm
#667 Bul-a-Bhloo: Mate, take the moral high ground if you want to, but what shone through in Poppa’s posts were that of a supporter who is clearly hurting. I’ve seen plenty of it on here over the years as the Boks were on the receiving end from the ABs.
AB fans are going to have to accept that their team is no longer the benchmark in world rugby. They should be proud that for the last 4 to 5 years they were, but just like the Boks had to, the ABs need to go away, rethink and earn the mantle of best team in the world. Until then, I’m sure you can pass on some tips about how to deal with the disappointment of losing.
I could too, but i’d bore them with all the experience I have of dealing with Scotland’s losses
1 Aug 2009, 20:03 pm
#669 poppa69: I was willing to die much more than you my friend, where it counted.
But what has that to do with your very bad manners. **** off and let us enjoy our victory, no need for you to hang around. It’s a Saffa party this week.
1 Aug 2009, 20:04 pm
#675 sharks_lover:
He has found some calmness!!! I agree…that brilliance still and calmness…not to mention his long punts…
And he makes very few mistakes…if any…
He should just find his running game then he will be one of the worlds best ever…
1 Aug 2009, 20:04 pm
#682 stodders: cheers Stodders, but I’ll fight my own battles my friend… Im big enough to take all the comments… DO appreciate the thought though…
1 Aug 2009, 20:04 pm
#680 skopskiet: thanks skoppie and i did tell you how we would play today mate didnt i??
i also think not many are giving beast and smitty much credit for their efforts out there
and yes maybe people should now leave pdv alone and stand 200% behind him and the team
nothing can be perfect but they are getting things more right then wrong
1 Aug 2009, 20:05 pm
#681 stodders: Well said mate!
1 Aug 2009, 20:05 pm
When you have a look at this AB side, they’re not that different to last years. A new 10, like us. Hayman is gone, but Beast is still a relative newcomer. The only other difference in the pack is Isaac Ross instead of Ali.
The backline is about the same as usual with Conrad Smith always the first choice 13 when fit.
On our side, we’re missing Schalk and Monty. So I don’t understand why the ABs are at such a disadvantage. The reality is, they still have the players but the Boks have upped they’re game as a team.
1 Aug 2009, 20:05 pm
#681 stodders: I understand the hurt. Remember we had many years of hurt at the hands of the AB’s.
What I don’t understand is the bad manners. By all means celebrate with us but don’t spoil our party. All I’m asking.
1 Aug 2009, 20:06 pm
#683 Hmmm: agreed mate and i think that will come as he feels more at home in the position
he and jaque put a lot of pressure on the kiwis from the up and unders
1 Aug 2009, 20:06 pm
#669 poppa69: Interesting point that – I agree the ABs will get better over time, but I’m not sure the Boks have peaked yet. They have only really started to play to their potential now. Will be interesting to see what happens in the rest of the 3N series, it certainly isn’t over yet and only a victory or 2 on tour for the Boks will be good enough from here.
1 Aug 2009, 20:06 pm
#669 poppa69: Mate, I used to doubt the Boks could get better, but I have to hold my hands up and say that they have pushed on.
Can they get better? I think so. Their game plan is currently very basic and they are not converting chances when in their opponents 22.
But right now, the Boks have the best tactical kicking game in the world, one of (if not the) best goalkicker in the world in Morne Steyn, the best lineout, a pretty good scrum, a brilliant fetcher who is able to nullify the likes of McCaw and probably the best defence in world rugby.
If they can improve their backline play, which is still to stagnant, they can improve. But with the above facets of play being so good, I don’t even think they need to improve their backline that much to maintain their winning streak.
What I can say though, is that until the ABs fix their lineout, they won’t be beating the Boks any time soon.
1 Aug 2009, 20:08 pm
I have not been on here for a while but Poppa has always been a good poster/blogger on here. I do get his point in terms of where the balance lies as I thought we had it tough last week. The thing is that I think we have to play well and lose (and be robbed) before we can mention the referee.
1 Aug 2009, 20:08 pm
#689 Bul-a-Bhloo: oh please, how many times have Saffas complained about the raw deal, I do it once in 2 years and suddenly Im the devil…
my bad nmanners, what a farkin joke….
1 Aug 2009, 20:09 pm
#666 chch:
That is sad if true…
Hope that you guys are able to turn that around…world rugby needs a great AB team…
1 Aug 2009, 20:10 pm
#674 JockBok: Ah the bachelor life! I’ve been living it for the past month – it’s overrated! Can’t wait for Friday, back off to Gods own country for my summer holiday. Hope it rains plenty
1 Aug 2009, 20:12 pm
Ek wil net vir PDV en die Bokke geluk wens- goeie flok. Ek wens die wen maak al die kritici TJOEPSTIL!
1 Aug 2009, 20:12 pm
#693 poppa69: “my bad nmanners, what a farkin joke…”
I rest my case your Honor.
Best I go to another thread. He is getting tedious.
1 Aug 2009, 20:12 pm
#693 poppa69: poppa relax mate every one complains , like you are today and have before so have our guys,, its normal
to be honest though you guys are to blame urself
wrong coach , deans??
we know from super 14 there is a lot of players that could have been there that are not
i can tell you this , with RD as coach this AB team would have been very different
1 Aug 2009, 20:12 pm
this ganging up on Poppa is unnecessary. He feels the momentum was taken away from his team by some pedantic officiating. It has happened to us much in the past too. Ab’s were pressured into mistakes but there were a few telling moments which turned the game away from them and towards us. In the end the attritional aspect of the pressure amounted to too much for them, but they just missed a few scoring opportunities early on which would have resulted in a completely different set of circumstances.
1 Aug 2009, 20:12 pm
#687 David: David,
It reminds me a bit of the Boks in 2006. The players were available, but they were short of form or the combinations just weren’t gelling. It clicked in 2007 to win a world cup just enough, but then it broke again in 2008.
This year, the strongest Bok team is available, and all the players are match hardened, fit and have been playing lots of rugby. They are in form and play as a team. Praise should go to the Bok coaching team for that.
The ABs on the other hand are not playing like a team this year, whereas they were last year. They are still capable of much better, but when up against a very good team like the Boks are right now, being off form is not going to win it for you. I think there’ll be plenty of blood letting back in NZ over the next couple of weeks, and a different AB gameplan rolled out the next time the play.
McCaw, So’oialo and Hore will be better for the game time. Carter may be available to play at 10 (even though I think Doanld has been ok and is not the root of their problems). But in the next two weeks, I expect them to be focusing on their forwards, as that is why their backline is not functioning. Without parity up front, they just aren’t effective.
1 Aug 2009, 20:13 pm
#688 Bul-a-Bhloo:
The Bully boys in the Bok team were massive today.
Morne really surprised me – even experts like me can be wrong
Spies too, not my type of no 8 (he never passes!) but he was very good under the wet conditions and controlled the ball very well at the back of a pack that went backwards a few times.
He also carried the ball up extremely well.
Poppa is just hurting.
He is in fact an OK guy.
It must be hard on Keo if you are sort of standing on your own as he is doing today.
1 Aug 2009, 20:14 pm
#689 sharks_lover:
He definitely has the makings of it…
He kicks the ball further than anyone is history…and now he has found some accuracy too…
He defends well (unlike a Jantjies)…
As soon as he brings in his running game…he will be a legend….
And he is only 22/23!??!
1 Aug 2009, 20:14 pm
#680 skopskiet:
True Skoppie. I was never a fan of his especially with Winning Ways crowning him prematurely El Suprimo. Had a poor season last year. Think PdV influence is coming through. He was quoted as saying so himself. The fact that he knows his position is FB. That did a lot of good to his self confidence.
What is your opinion of PdV thus far as a coach considering the recent campaign to rid us of him as a national coach. And the senior players?
1 Aug 2009, 20:14 pm
#700 skopskiet: nah its necessary Skop, Im being a bad loser… I can admit that…
enjoy your website boys…
1 Aug 2009, 20:15 pm
Poppa…..remember the old addage, ‘you show me a good loser and i’ll show you a loser’
I HATE losing so i know how you feel!
1 Aug 2009, 20:16 pm
#704 poppa69: poppa?
answer me damnit
1 Aug 2009, 20:16 pm
#698 sharks_lover: Maybe. It does seem that the AB coaches have gone a bit stale in their thinking. Maybe they needed a shot up the arse like this double loss to focus the minds again. They are the most successful coaching team still employed.
This is their biggest challenge though to date. Time will tell if they are up to rebuilding the ABs.
Just wanted to make a point. The ABs may no longer be the best team in the world, but they are still in the top 2 or 3. They can’t be accused of peaking between world cups either. So it’s not a complete disaster, even though for AB fans who have grown fat on their test win record in recent years, it must feel that way.
1 Aug 2009, 20:20 pm
All hail to Peter and his team!!!! What is Peter’s winning % now? Does anybody know?
1 Aug 2009, 20:21 pm
#701 Robzim: True Rob. I got no beef with the fellow.
Should just dissappear until we finished celebrating.
Rugby: There were a number of gladiators today. Lot of them not for what you saw but rather what they did for the greater good. JdV one example. Sure he missed two tackles but he was huge in the game otherwise.
1 Aug 2009, 20:21 pm
#681 stodders:
I think everyone here excepts that we are not number 1. I do think that the people who have walked away from rugby are very lame though
#687 David:
I think Ross, Ali and Big Bad Brad can happily share the 2 spots. Yes Smith is number 1 despite the 3 year Toeava experiment (experiment or naked photos of GH).
NZ has good players but really lacks a great 1st team.
1 Aug 2009, 20:21 pm
Btw Boks fans, how does the feeling of securing the 3 match series against the ABs and confirming your status as the better of the two teams compare with winning a world cup?
Just interested how much it means to you.
1 Aug 2009, 20:22 pm
#710 chch: What do you mean walked away from rugby?
1 Aug 2009, 20:24 pm
Well done Kiwis, you managed to avoid getting 50 against you two weeks in a row now.
A lesser team would have been thumped today.
1 Aug 2009, 20:25 pm
#704 poppa69: Of course we will.
What’s the story about pulling your hand out of a bucket of water and looking for the hole afterwards?
We don’t cotton onto emotional blackmail. Stay if you want go if you want. No problem.
BUT let us enjoy our win, FFS!!!
1 Aug 2009, 20:25 pm
#707 stodders: Agreed mate, one thing people tend to forget is that there always will be huge respect between Boks and Kiwi’s.
For me , obviously i am glad the Kiwi management are stuffing themselves in the eye by not choosing prolly the best coach in the world in Deans.
In saying that the players should also be blamed as they make the mistakes on the field , and i understand Poppa is annoyed sad etc as we are when we lose,
I swear i can sit with you and re watch this game and i can show you where the ref nailed the Boks , and i dont say purposefully , not at all
Fact is though the players are letting the team down with stupid mistakes all the time
1 Aug 2009, 20:26 pm
#710 chch: You can factor in Chris Jack as well I think. He will be energised after his NH sojourn and could very well go through to the world cup.
NZ need all the experience they can get at the mo!
I think the biggest thing you guys need to change is your 10/12 axis and kicking game. With Carter being unavailable, your lack of a kicking game has been exposed.
Playing Nonu at 12 is only a good idea if your pack are providing front foot ball, which they aren’t when playing the Boks or French. I think NZ need the second play maker in McAllister to play 12, with Nonu being an excellent impact substitution covering 12,13 and wing.
You also need to look at replacing Rokocoko. He has lost his verve when attacking and is unsafe under the high ball and slow to turn. You need a Doug Howlett in your ranks. Someone who isn’t flash but ho has a high work ethic and can finish.
1 Aug 2009, 20:26 pm
#711 stodders: Means a helluva lot.
But World cups are special. Very special.
1 Aug 2009, 20:26 pm
Evening all,
Well done to our Bokke. Good win. No bonus point to the ABs either. Oz will be smiling. OZ will be another kettle of fish altogether next week.
Brilliant by Morne Steyn. Played superb and brilliant kicking at posts. Think he has now just won the FH position. Felt very safe watching him taking the kicks. Still feel for Ruan but when someone comes on in your place and plays like that, then you just have to play better to fight for the position back. Going to be tough for Ruan. Think Morne will be our FH after tonights game.
Frans Steyn has proved he is our best FB since Percy left. He gets better and better all the time playing FB. Why did they not play him there last year already? We all knew that is where he would play his best rugby. Just hope the coach keeps selecting him until the world cup. Even if he moves off to France.
H. Brussow is just awesome. No space for S. Burger at openside anymore.
J. Fourie was superb and is our best 13.
Our wings not getting enough ball but their defence is brilliant. Habs defence is magnificent.
Our lineouts once again superb. Bakkies and Victor the best in the world there. Spies too had a massive game. So did Beast. How was Beast carrying the ball? Looked like a wing….hehe. Never mind a Loosehead.
If I missed out anyone sorry, they all were great tonight.
Well done to John on this 60th cap being captain. What a captain he is too. The BEST in the world. Please Plum you need to give the captaincy back to John at the Sharks, he is way, way better than Muller as captain.
To my kiwi friends. ABs will be back. Hard luck my mates but your team will be back. All Blacks never stay down for long. Not sure why your team always tried to run the ball right on our line? It sort of reminded me of the Boks last year playing the helter-skelter. ABs will be a better side back home in NZ I have no doubt.
Well thats my 2 cents worth.
Hope you all having a great evening. I know I am
1 Aug 2009, 20:26 pm
#711 stodders: mate any win against the blacks is humongous….
But lets not talk about the 3 nations yet . lots of water to flow first
1 Aug 2009, 20:27 pm
#711 stodders:
World Cup better…
1 Aug 2009, 20:27 pm
#664 sglazer: Travel in either direction is exactly the same distance. The so-called “disadvantage” is just a hoary old myth and a totally lame excuse.
At least the ABs aren’t peaking between world cups any more!
1 Aug 2009, 20:27 pm
#715 sharks_lover: I actually thought that the Boks, because they were in control, were getting the 50/50 calls in their favour. Just my opinion.
1 Aug 2009, 20:28 pm
#711 stodders:
Please do not go there. Mentioned earlier on that we are one eyed and humbleness does not exist in our vocab. That is a Saffa rugby fan.
1 Aug 2009, 20:29 pm
Stodders, any win anywhere does it for me, the world cup is really a seperate comp. to year in year out test matches , but our world cup record is second to none and something to be very proud of.
95 winner
99 third
2003 nowhere
2007 winner
a 50% win ratio …aussies come close with a 33% win ratio eng and nz distant third with 16%
Let the records speak for theselves
1 Aug 2009, 20:30 pm
#712 stodders:
Many people who used to follow rugby now just follow the Aussie League. Rugby attendances here are really low. North Harbour sold adult tickets at NZ$10 and children free today ….. or else you would have been looking at a very empty stadium.
1 Aug 2009, 20:31 pm
#721 TheTackler: No it is not.
There is a difference traveling east to west and west to east.
1 Aug 2009, 20:31 pm
#718 Puma: last paragraph meant your line.
1 Aug 2009, 20:32 pm
#680 skopskiet: Boks need to sort out their attack. Today’s conditions suited M.Steyn but I think Pienaar should return, the backs looked so devoid of creativity. Trouble is M.Steyn has to be on the field somewhere for the points he offers.
1 Aug 2009, 20:32 pm
#722 stodders: Think the ref was fair tonight. It went both ways fair and square.
1 Aug 2009, 20:33 pm
#729 Puma: Agreed. Great performance by your boys. I imagine you are very proud.
Anyays, i’m off. Enjoy your night.
1 Aug 2009, 20:34 pm
#727 Puma: hiyas bro
nice win for the boks and the sharks huh
deysel in my eyes soon for 7 in the boks
again yesterday he was brillaint and took no less then 9 balls off the cheetahs
a 7 fetcher with brussouw?? and bismark?? eish eish farking eish lol
1 Aug 2009, 20:34 pm
#721 TheTackler: lol tackler you crack me up
1 Aug 2009, 20:34 pm
#728 Big Hit: that be a fact
1 Aug 2009, 20:35 pm
I still say the fairest way to play the tri nations is a mini tournament in one country every year excluding world cup years, 2012 in aus, 2013 in sa, 2014 in new zealand, you take a full touring side and play midweek games against the provinces best of both worlds ….touring and tournaments rolled into one, but far to logical to ever happen,
1 Aug 2009, 20:35 pm
Dantalian they had the 95 final on espn today all tears and what not again yes wc is very special
1 Aug 2009, 20:37 pm
#721 TheTackler:
Proven scientific fact the further you travel east is worse than traveling west..
1 Aug 2009, 20:39 pm
#721 TheTackler: So what do you say about the ref, Oom Tackles?
1 Aug 2009, 20:40 pm
#731 sharks_lover: didn’t realise Deysel won that many turnovers, thought him, Terblanche and Kockett had big games. Their class shone through. Deysel and Burger will be putting pressure on Smith’s Bok place.
1 Aug 2009, 20:41 pm
#704 poppa69: Don’t worry my friend. I understand. Us SA have been there many times with our Boks. Your team will be back. Never seen a AB side stay down.
Boks for now just have such a incredible team. It could all change next week. So we must be humble in victory too.
You are a good oke here. I hope many people who blog here have read many of or past posts. You always support Boks when the ABs are not playing them. Today I understand your disappointment.
1 Aug 2009, 20:41 pm
#738 Big Hit: yup i watched the game again this am and was shocked to see just how many turn overs he won
plus the amount of tackles he put in i think spies deysel and brussouw could be some trio
1 Aug 2009, 20:43 pm
#739 Puma: Poppa is cool, Wakanathan on the other hand…………
1 Aug 2009, 20:43 pm
#730 stodders: Yes very proud.
#731 sharks_lover: Brilliant weekend.
I missed most of the Sharks game last night. My signal for dstv just went off. So watched some of the highlights now.
Yip, Think Deysel is a future 7 he is brilliant. So is D. Potgieter.
1 Aug 2009, 20:43 pm
#739 Puma: amen
1 Aug 2009, 20:43 pm
#716 stodders:
The Nonu thing is exactly what I have been thinking and I think what Deans would have done. If Brett had progressed from 2 years ago then we would have been looking at playing two first-fives side by side at 10 and 12. In Nonu we have the other extreme at it really works very badly with Donald. McAllister is the obvious solution.
GH has not made an effort to bring McAllister into the 12 slot. He seemed to think of him as a 1st five only. McAllister had an initially bad return and GH did not really give him a chance. Very annoying when you consider how players like Toeava had stayed in the side.
GH also does not know what to do with the number 9 thing. Lenard and Cowan are similar and are better nines than Weepu but Weepu has the better kicking game. We also lack kicking power from the back with Mils (MacDonald always had better distance and was better in a kicking dual). You would think that with kicking being an issue in other areas that the need to play a more skillful 12 with better kicking ability would be obvious.
1 Aug 2009, 20:43 pm
#741 JL1: Yes poppa is a really good oke here.
1 Aug 2009, 20:44 pm
Okay cheers all. Have my visitors here now. So will have to log off now.
GO BOKKE.
1 Aug 2009, 20:47 pm
#718 Puma: Goeie opsomming.
#731 sharks_lover: Wanneer is Schalk Burger weer beskikbaar ?
1 Aug 2009, 20:50 pm
#744 chch:
McAllister did do well at 12 few years back…
1 Aug 2009, 20:51 pm
#746 Puma: He lost it after the final whistle tonight. The tread is there for all to see. Bad manners to say the least.
1 Aug 2009, 20:51 pm
I am off back to sleep too. I can dream of a parallel universe where Robbie Deans is AB coach after GHs dignified decision not to run against him
1 Aug 2009, 20:56 pm
#741 JL1: wakanutter will be funny next week, I think this might actually tip him over the edge
1 Aug 2009, 20:58 pm
#748 Hmmm:
He did and I think that he can do again.
1 Aug 2009, 20:58 pm
#726 The-Pill: A kilometre west to east is the same as a kilometre east to west. Any jetlag is overcome within a week, anyway. After that one week, you’ve got no excuse, even if you’re one of the few who suffer jetlag. Most frequent travellers soon get over jetlag anyway. It’s only the raw newbies to timezone travel who ever get bad jetlag.
Naah, “travel disadvantage” is just a myth like mermaid fins, hens’ teeth and ubuntu.
1 Aug 2009, 20:59 pm
#753 TheTackler: What about a cheating ref?
1 Aug 2009, 20:59 pm
#751 Big Hit: He will not be humble or you will not see him on this site
ABs are going down like Aussies in cricket
1 Aug 2009, 21:01 pm
Surprised by some of the comment from fellow New Zealanders. Do you sincerely not understand why we tried to run it from everywhere? PDV, when asked prior to the match what he thought the ABs would do, said exactly that – that they’d run from everywhere. Proving that despite his gaff-prone comments, he is nobody’s fool.
Henry’s tactics were correct. The execution was abjectly poor, and that was because the Springboks were superb in the pressure they applied.
Faced with a team boasting three of the top five territorial kicking backs in the world, and the most dominant lineout since rugby went professional, do none of you understand that you’re only option is to keep the ball in play and hope to run them off their feet? What? You think Stephen Donald is the man to take them on in a kicking duel? Or that Isaac Ross (that little queen), is going to take Matfield apart?
Lament the execution, and hate the fact the Boks are this good, but think a bit about questioning the tactics. Henry is the most successful coach we’ve ever had. Just because his team were handed their arses doesn’t mean he became a fool overnight.
Well done South Africa – that was a mighty performance.
1 Aug 2009, 21:02 pm
#754 Beertjie: That ref was reminded all the time by the AR’s, he was really pathetic
1 Aug 2009, 21:04 pm
#755 JL1:
Please do not make reference to the Australian cricket team and ABs in the same sentence. We may have lost but I don’t remember half the AB side being ********
1 Aug 2009, 21:04 pm
#756 The Old Enemy: I take my hat off to you…very accurate in your summary
1 Aug 2009, 21:05 pm
#758 chch: Sorry,
1 Aug 2009, 21:06 pm
#756 The Old Enemy: was the tactic of running it from everywhere in the wet really correct? also you’d have to question Henry being in charge when NZ had their worst WC result ever.
1 Aug 2009, 21:08 pm
#758 chch: If half the players in the AB squad were ********, that would equal the amount of AHs in the Aussie cricket team.
1 Aug 2009, 21:09 pm
#756 The Old Enemy: Excellent post. Well summed up and why the AB’s will be back sooner than later. Realizing the problem is the start of the cure.
Boks managed to mount the pressure unbelievably and it went from there….
1 Aug 2009, 21:12 pm
Kan iemand my sê wanneer is Burger se ‘ban’ verby ? Hou ons die lostrio soos hy nou is, of kan hy verbeter word ?
1 Aug 2009, 21:12 pm
#756 The Old Enemy: It is not essential that we beat the Boks at the kicking game but it is essential that we have a kicking game
1 Aug 2009, 21:14 pm
#764 bdb: Schalk vir Juan nog 4 weke of 3
1 Aug 2009, 21:19 pm
#766 JL1: Ek sal eerder vir Schalk saam met Dane op die bank sit. Imagine, jy haal vir Bakkies en Juan af en Danie en Schalk kom op. SB is ook goeie cover vir 6, 7 en 8.
1 Aug 2009, 21:20 pm
#754 Beertjie: What cheating ref? That — along with imaginary “travel disadvantage” — is a traditional yarpie excuse. Ever since neutral refs came along refs haven’t cheated. Cheating refs are a myth.
1 Aug 2009, 21:21 pm
#766 JL1: As dit solank is, sal ek nie vir Schalk inbring nie, laat hy maar die WP help om die semi’s te maak. Juan se ervaring is goed vir die jong lostrio.
Sal dan vir Dewald kies as back-up, maar omdat hy beseer is, vir Deysel.
Snorre sal dalk nog vir Daniesourus daar kies.
1 Aug 2009, 21:22 pm
#767 Beertjie: Dit kan mooi werk.
1 Aug 2009, 21:22 pm
#768 TheTackler: ‘Cheating refs are a myth.’
that include Barnesy tackles?
1 Aug 2009, 21:24 pm
#769 bdb: Danie was massive op verdediging toe hy opkom.
1 Aug 2009, 21:26 pm
#768 TheTackler: I think you’ll need to educate your new countrymen on that one this week. You can start with Poppa.
1 Aug 2009, 21:27 pm
#772 Bul-a-Bhloo: Ja, ‘oom’ Danie is ‘n legend.
1 Aug 2009, 21:28 pm
#768 TheTackler: And you can add another myth: Suzie !
1 Aug 2009, 21:30 pm
#771 Big Hit: Barnesy didn’t cheat. He wasn’t remotely competent at test level, but he certainly didn’t cheat. He did his best to be fair.
1 Aug 2009, 21:32 pm
#756 The Old Enemy: Quite correct, if any of those forays into our 22 (and there were enough of them to make a sizable difference to the outcome of the game, not least of all the one where JP stopped Cowan with the high tackle) then it could have very much been a different ballgame altogether.
AB’s tactics were correct but conditions determined that more balls were going to slip and passes not sticking than if it were dry, so in the end the up and under bombs worked, the pressure told and the rub of the green went our way.
It seems AB’s were outclassed on the day, but not quite so, the pressure percentage game worked in the conditions, and the running game didn’t, but until the last quarter it was still anyone’s game, and quite a few AB attacks were stopped at the last line of defense. Also some pretty poor options taken when overlaps were beckoning and strike runners opted for inside breaks instead of sending it wide.
1 Aug 2009, 21:33 pm
#775 bdb: A South African security guard assigned to the team has written a book backing up claims by All Black coach Laurie Mains that the All Blacks were got at before the cup final – suggesting their food was poisoned.
Rory Steyn, a former head of security for South African president Nelson Mandela, revives the poisoning suggestion in his book, One Step Behind Mandela, the Story of Rory Steyn.
The All Blacks lost 15-12 in an epic final which went into extra time against the host nation, a late dropped goal giving the Springboks victory.
Several of the All Blacks had been ill before the match with Jeff Wilson and Andrew Mehrtens among the worst affected. A weak Wilson had to be replaced before the match finished.
Afterwards there were claims from the All Blacks’ camp of food poisoning.
This theory was largely rejected until the recent release of Steyn’s book.
Mains, now coaching in South Africa, was unavailable to comment on Thursday.
The first real support for his often repeated claims of deliberate food poisoning at the team’s hotel comes in a chapter titled “The All Blacks and Food Poisoning”.
Mains had alleged his players were got at by a waitress called Suzie.
On the Thursday before the Saturday final in Johannesburg, most of the All Blacks went to a cinema complex. Steyn accompanied prop Richard Loe.
Loe vomited immediately after the movie while Wilson had severe stomach cramps.
Steyn said he knew then he had a serious problem on his hands.
“We raced back to the hotel and when I got up to the doctor’s room it looked like a battle zone – like a scene from a war movie,” Steyn says in the book.
“Players were lying all over the place and the doctor and physio were walking around injecting them.
“I was a police officer, I worked with facts. What my eyes told me that night was that the team had deliberately been poisoned.”
Steyn said medical staff were able to get most of the players back to playing shape apart from Mehrtens and Wilson.
He said the “illness” which had swept through the team had a major impact on the All Blacks’ preparation for the final.
“I had to endure accusations of complicity in this, from New Zealand officials, and I was very angry that this was allowed to happen in my country – to people in my care,” Steyn said.
The security man says the All Blacks were the best team in the competition – “against the Ellis’ Park altitude and against food poisoning they ran South Africa close into extra time, so close.
“Laurie Mains, now the highly popular coach of the Cats, says that he’ll go to his grave wondering what would have happened if the All Blacks had not been sick,” Steyn said in the book.
Mains employed a private investigator in an attempt to get to the bottom of the mystery.
Steyn said the investigator reported back that a Far Eastern betting syndicate had paid a waitress called Suzie at the All Blacks’ hotel to put something in their water.
“South African rugby fans remained sceptical of this theory and preferred to put it down to sour Kiwi grapes,” Steyn said.
“To my fellow South Africans I want to say this: Stop all those cheap jokes about Suzie, the food poisoning and whingeing Kiwis. It happened. There is no doubt that the All Blacks were poisoned two days before the final.
1 Aug 2009, 21:35 pm
Een swaeltjie maak nie ‘n somer nie, maar een Carter maak wel ‘n groot verskil aan ‘n AB span. Met hom daar sou die AB’s baie beter kon speel in die nat omstandighede. Sou nogsteeds nie gewen het nie, maar sou baie beter vir hu gegaan het.
1 Aug 2009, 21:36 pm
#776 TheTackler: his best was good enough
1 Aug 2009, 21:36 pm
#761 Big Hit: I think so Big Hit. It is hard for me argue this successfully when the execution was so terrible and when the South African performance was so commanding. But the try to Ross in the first half seemed to show that this was the only way to take on the Springboks. They’re a side so sure of their systems that to unsettle them you need to break the game open to a point where those systems are not applicable.
The weather was, you also have to understand, not bad by NZ standards. And it was a day game, unlike the rugby in NZ. So the conditions provided no explanation as to why paid professionals thought fit to send passes from the base of a ruck sailing over the in goal and into the stands behind for no apparent reason.
#765 chch: No argument there, but the reality was we didn’t have players on the park with a kicking game. So you have to play to that reality don’t you?
1 Aug 2009, 21:38 pm
#780 Big Hit: For Eton U14C versus Harrow U14C, no doubt.
1 Aug 2009, 21:39 pm
#778 TheTackler: Oh boy, now I started something …
What is next: the earth is flat and there were no moon landing ?
1 Aug 2009, 21:41 pm
The ABs played stupid rugby considering the conditions and I now question McCaw as captain. ooking at them and to add Dan Carter will make them a different prospect. Great tactics and effort although our inability to create anything even after 8+ phases in one instance is an eye opener as to Pienaar’s creative value, but let’s not take anything away from Morne, great kicking display.
My men of the match in order
Bakkies
Bismarck
Spies
Brussow
1 Aug 2009, 21:43 pm
#784 Shakes: JF en FS kan jy ook byvoeg.
1 Aug 2009, 21:45 pm
#778 TheTackler:
“I was a police officer, I worked with facts. What my eyes told me that night was that the team had deliberately been poisoned.”
So that is his only “fact” on which he base the whole story – what his eyes told him” Luckely it was not a tape worm that told him.
LMAO!
1 Aug 2009, 21:49 pm
#781 The Old Enemy: a lot of the poor NZ execution came from Bok pressure, the NZ pack couldn’t quite get physical parity.
Which ex-black recently said they needed to toughen up? whoever it was, was right I think. Sending in the likes of young Ross and the 21 year old Franks to take on the best pack in the world was a mistake in my opinion especially with Woodcock and Hore in poor form. Surely there were some other more powerful options?
1 Aug 2009, 21:50 pm
#782 TheTackler: high enough standard, I reckon Eton would give the ABs a game these days
1 Aug 2009, 21:51 pm
#787 Big Hit: Where is Hayman, or is he finished with the AB’s. Great prop !
1 Aug 2009, 21:53 pm
#785 bdb: still have a moerse smile on my face. Morne kicked the goals but hey no backline player deserve a mention before any of the forwards. One of the best overall pack performances I’ve seen in years from the Boks. Juan Smith needs to be managed if he is to play a part in 2011. He was the only one looking slightly tired.
1 Aug 2009, 21:53 pm
big hit no tighthead is ready at 21 and ross is not up for it only thorn is the buisness that is the main prob of the blacks a weak tight 5
1 Aug 2009, 21:55 pm
#789 bdb: he’ll be back for the World Cup, currently playing in the GP for £350k a year.
1 Aug 2009, 21:56 pm
#787 Big Hit: Absolutely. I’m not suggesting for a minute the New Zealanders self-destructed. They were beaten and those mistakes were forced by the Boks.
I’ve just read the article just posted reflecting comments from John Smith and Peter De Villiers. They seem to be observing the same thing in this regard.
Franks and Ross are it sadly. Such is New Zealand’s domestic game. Players either make high honours very young or they take flight and go to Europe to earn better money. The days of there being some old grafter who might not be the first pick, but who is a steady replacement, are I suspect gone.
1 Aug 2009, 21:56 pm
Nou ja, dit is 1 Augustus. Waaroor kan ons reeds bly wees:
1. SA span (Bulls) wen die S14
2. SA sewes wêreld kampioene
3. SA wen BIL toer
4. SA wen toetsreeks teen NZ in SA
5. SA nr.1 op wêreldranglys
As die sokker- en krieket paloekas nou net wil wakker skrik !
Geluk Snorre en die Bokke !
Lekker slaap almal.
1 Aug 2009, 21:57 pm
#791 smallies72: yeah sending that lighter five in against physical brutes like Beast, Bismarck, Smit, Botha, Matfield was a huge task that they were never going to manage.
1 Aug 2009, 21:58 pm
#793 The Old Enemy: yeah I understad, still Chris Jack is playing good rugby for WP it won’t be long until he’s back and Hayman/Williams to return. It’s not all doom and gloom on that front.
1 Aug 2009, 22:01 pm
big hit did you see habs kleen out mcaw at a ruck in the last 5 min.now that is comitment
1 Aug 2009, 22:03 pm
#797 smallies72: yeah it was rare to see a winger cleaning out forwards at ruck time but he did a pretty good job, McCaw went flying
1 Aug 2009, 22:09 pm
big hit i realy like the way he is playing at the moment.he gets stuck in and does not shy away from the nasty stuff i think he is the most complete winger in sa if not the world at the moment
1 Aug 2009, 22:21 pm
i see Sir Stodders is still trying to work out wtf just happened?
1 Aug 2009, 22:23 pm
#788 Big Hit: Eton might beat Abergavenny Blind school. If the ABs aren’t given a tinkling bell in the ball, that is. If they are, the Etonian Chinless Wonders are doomed, I tell you, DOOMED.
1 Aug 2009, 23:06 pm
687. David
In South Africa it used to be if the Bulls and WP are
strong South African rugby is strong.Today if the
Bulls and the Sharks are strong South African rugby
is strong.
In New Zeeland if the Crusaders were strong,New Zeeland
rugby was strong.With the Crusaders declining so is
New Zeeland rugby.
The mere fact is,they simply dont have a forward pack to mix it up front.Ther backs are never going to be in the game
as long as they have to back pedal.
Now think about this,if the back lines could switch at half time,Morne and every one outside him would have been under
tremendous pressure and the ABS would have been running riot.
2 Aug 2009, 02:02 am
#753 TheTackler: As ever you are so wrong, jet lag does have an adverse effect, and there is a significant difference between East-West and West-East jet lag.
Many studies show that heading east is worse than heading west. In tests of U.S. Army soldiers who transferred between the U.S. and Germany, it took three days for the soldiers who flew home to the U.S. to adjust to time and environmental changes. Those transferring eastward to Germany took eight days to adapt, according to the 1983 study in the journal Aviation, Space and Environmental Medicine.
In 1980, NASA (in collaboration with the FAA, and at the request of Congress) established The NASA Ames Fatigue/Jet Lag Program to study the problem. set out “to collect systematic, scientific information on fatigue, sleep, circadian rhythms, and performance in flight operations.” Researchers determined that…when traveling westward, the circadian day is lengthened (or delayed) and promotes adjustment to the new time zone. Conversely, when flying eastward, the circadian day is shortened (or advanced), contrary to the natural tendencies of the internal clock.”
In a sporting context, In a study by researchers from the University of Massachusetts Medical School and the Brigham and Women’s Hospital in Boston, major league baseball teams from the West and East coasts were compared to see who had the best records for the season. The East coast teams had a higher winning percentage as compared to the West teams when traveling across country.
However, as seen from the quoted studies , the AB should have recovered before the first test (3 days). At altitude SA is at an admitted advantage. on the rare occasions you antipodeans play there.
2 Aug 2009, 03:20 am
Great work Boks you gave us a really scholacking last night, much to my disappointment but fully acknowledge the superiority on display. I was dubious after the first week’s game and even though we saw a more aggressive style from the AB’s the Boks dominated, kept their composure and came up with the points- Congratulations, you guys must be over the moon. If you can carry this forward the Tri-Nations will be yours and deservedly so. Great effort, great performance, great strength!!
I am proud to be beaten by a team that has had to lift and done so, so well
2 Aug 2009, 04:06 am
#803 utiskuzap: Yes, and there are countless studies in mental health publications on the adverse effect of time-zone travel, in both directions, on mental health. To illustrate the point, people with manic depression are strongly advised not to travel across time zones, for fear of life-threatening psychotic episodes.
With regard to rugby schedules, the main point is that SA players have to spend twice as long on the road across far time zones than their Australasian counterparts. NZ and Australia cross the Tasman Sea to play each other, and zip in and out of South Africa. This is a significant difference. The playing fields are uneven.
The players know it. NZ’s fine captain Mils Muliaina said as much in a recent interview: the SA players have by far the harder travel schedule when compared to NZ and Australia, and this has been the case for years [paraphrasing].
This has coincided with NZ pulling away from SA in the winning stakes.
Tackler is stuck on a superficial level of thinking. That’s his version of reality, but it’s the wrong one. Everyone creates their own reality, and that is Tackler’s. There are several other bloggers who hold the same wrong view.
SA journalists and commentators are afraid to focus on this for fear of being branded “whingers” etc. They do themselves and their country a disservice.
The positive for SA rugby is that the players are becoming harder and more suited to modern rugby schedules, as they adapt to the more trying environment. This may just work to SA’s advantage.
2 Aug 2009, 04:10 am
The most anyone has come up with on the other side of the debate is along the lines of Tackler’s linear and superficial logic, or immature rants about being cry-babies and the like.
2 Aug 2009, 05:43 am
More all
Congrats to the Boks – superbly played
2 Aug 2009, 09:55 am
Tackler can you please explain the demise of your All Black rugby team? What a load of tripe. Fire the coach and those two characters that sit on either side of him. Tackler you my friend please take your jacket and leave this blog before you get even more embarrassed by this rugger team supposedly called the All Blacks, huh what a load of rubbish, worse than school boy rugger.
2 Aug 2009, 10:12 am
wowow what a match by the Boks…..just superior, no other word to describe it. They really panicked the All Blacks, damn, how many times have we had to watch the Boks at sixes and sevens because of the ruthless AB’s, what a nice change to see us turn the tables! I thought they played wth great courage, but poor decisions, poor discipline and poor handling let them down….and the one-eyed, dogged approach of sticking to a game plan that wasn’t working really killed them
Ref wasn’t great, but fairly consitent and strict I thought
I’d love to ask Cane where all the filthy skullduggery from the Boks was? But I see he’s nowhere to be seen! Lol…and this isn’t gloating, but he really p****d me off with his comments about the boks yesterday….what was the penalty count, Cane? Where was all the pressure that was going to turn them into serial killers? Where was all the horrific violence our filthy criminal Boks were going to unleash? You owe every SA supporter here an apology for your disgusting remarks, and you’re a f***ng embarrassment to every decent kiwi supporter who blogs here.
To the other (cool) kiwi supporters, hard luck guys, you guys lost no honour in this defeat, but they’ll be back, that’s one thing you can count on. Your guys showed big heart, when everything else ‘clicks’ you guys will be back to winning ways….see you in NZ ina few weeks!
2 Aug 2009, 11:59 am
After this there can’t be too much debate about who our flyhalf is.
Morne beats the All Blacks all alone! And not just beats he scores 31 points, he thrashed them! It’s not normal!
2 Aug 2009, 12:20 pm
Firstly………..and this hurts….so forgive me if it takes a while before I spit it out.
Con…con……con…
I know I can it, if I focus.
Con…….No I’m choking….sorry. I’ll try again in a minute or two.
2 Aug 2009, 12:23 pm
#811 cane: No rush….we will wait all day for this one.
It’s going to be worth the wait.
2 Aug 2009, 12:24 pm
Congratulations SA, on what was a comprehesive and well deserved Victory.
There, a shot Johnny Walker and a piece of humble pie and all is possible.
P.S. Attreides I’ll get to you in due course.
2 Aug 2009, 12:26 pm
#805 sglazer: Bull. Hundreds — THOUSANDS — of business people are sitting in aircraft as you read this busy travelling across time zones. I’ve done it countless times. And the more you do it, the less affected you are by it — just like how frequent sailors don’t get seasick any more.
“Travel disadvantage” is the purest bunkum. And, for a newbie traveller, even the worst jetlag is totally gone in a week.
2 Aug 2009, 12:39 pm
I have to agree with Old Tickles.
It is the same distance from Germiston to Wellington…..as it is from Wellington to Germiston. Fact.
So when you travel East/West for a game or two…..you then have to travel return West/East for a game or two. Or vice-versa.
Where is the inequality!
There is none.
2 Aug 2009, 12:42 pm
If West-East travel across timezones is worse than East-West, then it bears remembering that the Antipodean teams all have to travel West-East on their way home and prepare for games while re-adjusting to their homeward travel in exactly the same way as the SA teams headed off on their away leg.
You don’t travel East-West from NZ to SA and then mysteriously just re-emerge home in NZ as if Scotty just beamed you back home with his Star Trek teleporter beam. You have to fly home and then play opponents who are, often, already waiting for you over there in a jetlag-free state.
The yarpies moan about “travel disadvantage” when what they really mean is “homesickness”.
And THAT is really so unprofessional and crybabyish from men who earn a handsome living playing rugby in foreign places!
After all, coming to play in a safe, hygienic, friendly first-world developed country is hardly anything you’d call proper hardship. Not like the Antipodeans who have to travel to a dangerous, hostile, unhygienic and violent third-world destination every time they come to play in Africa.
2 Aug 2009, 12:59 pm
#813 cane: cool…
2 Aug 2009, 13:16 pm
#816 TheTackler:
Easy Tickler…………..Phasers on stun.
2 Aug 2009, 13:22 pm
#817 Atreides:
“You owe every SA supporter here an apology for your disgusting remarks, and you’re a f***ng embarrassment to every decent kiwi supporter who blogs here”.
Well now Atty……it is just possible, you may take life too seriously.
I should be “commended” for trying to bring some passion and feeling into the lead-up, to what was a very important Test Match.
But do I ever get any THANKS!
2 Aug 2009, 13:55 pm
#250 poppa69: Ross’s play was not legal – it was not out of the ruck, and he came from an offside position. Combine it with the multitude of other AB’s illegalities, and you have a recipe for a yellow card.
And Mils had his one foot on the ground when JP tackled him. Fair go…
#481 NZMaori: Where do you think we learnt it from? ‘Yer man Richie!!
#485 poppa69: It seems we have moved on stringing up men in black jerseys…
#547 poppa69: apology accepted- spoken like a gentleman. The fact is that he AB forwards could not compete with the Boks tight 5 today and got frustrated by their lack of dominance at the breakdown due to Heinrich Brussow, whihc is why the lost the game for themselves through penalties. If they had more patience, and trsted their won defence, they would not give their game away 3 points at a time.
#684 poppa69: Actually Stodders was goiving you sage advice in a roundabout way. You should take it. And get used to coming down to a 60% winning margin,. AB’s have been spoilt the last few years with a 85% win ratio – and it went on a for a long time. But it certainly is not “normal procedure” for any team consistently. The star players you had have now left/retired or injured.
2 Aug 2009, 14:00 pm
#816 TheTackler: ja boet ek sien jou chill pille is weer op,luister ou piet afrika is leeu wereld jy konnie cope nie so bly still da in jou ou hoekie van die kiwis se land.jy weet koos jy krap my g@t.
2 Aug 2009, 18:05 pm
Tackler, you’re missing the main point again.
Imagine if NZ was playing against SA and Madagascar in the Tri-Nations. NZ would spend twice as long on tour on the other side of the world in Southern Africa as SA would in Australasia.
NZ would be on tour for four to five weeks in Southern Africa, whereas SA would be in and out of NZ in two weeks. SA would have a short trip to Madagascar for that leg of the tournament.
The situation is worse in the Super 14, where there are more teams in Australasia than in South Africa.
This is not a matter for debate. It’s fact. The players know it, the organizers of the tournaments know it, and so do all fair-minded people. Mils Muliaina said as much, as have other leading players from NZ and Australia.
The solution is an automatic point for the SA teams playing in those extra-travel games. An easy solution that is statistically legitimate.
2 Aug 2009, 18:06 pm
Correction: The situation is worse in the Super 14, where there are even more teams in Australasia compared to South Africa.
2 Aug 2009, 18:14 pm
sglazer even if you draw him a picture he will not,cannot understand.jy kan n perd water toe vat en al daai goed
2 Aug 2009, 20:05 pm
#824 smallies72: I live in hope. My concern is that people reading along decide upon the same faulty, superficial view as Tackler.
2 Aug 2009, 20:16 pm
sglazer luckely not all people are born with half a brain some even know how to use google.fear not.this is why i wanted the argies to join the comp so that the kiwis and aus can experiance the same thing
2 Aug 2009, 20:24 pm
#824 smallies72: #825 sglazer: oet there’s a world of difference between winning and whining.
It is what it is.
And Big Vic is on record saying is doesn’t matter. He should know.
2 Aug 2009, 21:22 pm
#827 SodaJoe: Not making it matter is one thing, and that’s the strength of this team, but the fact remains that the playing fields are uneven. Those who are grounded in the true reality know it.
Overcoming it is a strength, which is what Victor meant.
3 Aug 2009, 00:44 am
#809 Atreides: Yep agree, the ref wasnt exactly a great ref, more like a strict headmaster that expected all his students to abide by the rules and then punish for any infringement, but across the board pretty fair on both sides.
Dirty tatics etc, well it all seemed pretty clean as well but in defense of those who have raised the issue, myself included, it was Schalk who got pinged on International Television eye gouging, he belongs to the Boks and bought their name into disrepute- we all reacted to it so maybe you need to tell him and others to stop using dirty tatics and then no-one will say anything- Fair enough I reckon. Boks have a reputation for foul play more so than any other team I can recall.
If Richie McCaw was seen trying to put his fingers in someone’s eyes as blatantly as that pea brain Burger, well what a field day you lot would have with that- the difference is – do you really think McCaw would stoop?
3 Aug 2009, 01:20 am
#822 sglazer: If you spend time away from home as part of a team, it ought to be a case of “the longer, the better” as you get to bond better. There’s no jetlag beyond week one. You focus more and more intently on the job you are being paid to do, far away from home distractions.
The only ones who see this as a “disadvantage” are the mentally-weak crybabies who get all homesick. Well, boo hoo! Harden up.
3 Aug 2009, 01:35 am
#826 smallies72: Duhhh… the Argies don’t have ANY professional rugby in Argentina. Nil. Zip. Nada. Every single one of their pro rugby players — including every last Puma — earns his living playing pro rugby in UK/France where the winter rugby season is out of synch with the Southern Hemisphere.
So the Argies cannot possibly play in the S14/3N unless they have absolutely no off-season rest-and-recovery. As they are by far the weakest of the SH test teams already, to have them bear the extra burden of no R&R off-season would mean they would be even easier to beat.
They’d be the eternal whipping-boys of these competitions.
No point including them unless and until all of Argentina’s best rugby pros earn their rugby wages in Argentina rather than France.
3 Aug 2009, 03:06 am
#829 captain fantail:
Aaah, why do you always have to be such a negative doos? Sure Burger was reckless or even clumsy if you will. But he did not stand over the bloke and jam his finger in his eye like Richard Loe.
If anyone is pea brained, it was you blokes on Saturday thinking you could run in tries from your own 22. Now that was pea brained and even arrogant maybe??
3 Aug 2009, 04:38 am
Tackler you are a DORK !
3 Aug 2009, 06:43 am
#831 TheTackler:
The Tri Nations has been moved to a later date under the new SANZAR agreement so the Argentina players playing Europe would get an off-season. That point is completely invalid.
As for how well they’d do, NZ’s last game in Argentina ended 19-25.
Ultimately there aren’t enough teams in the Tri Nations and crowds are voting with their feet at the current 3 meetings per year format.
3 Aug 2009, 07:32 am
#830 TheTackler:
You’ve missed the main point again Tackler, which is the significantly uneven playing field in regard to relative travel schedules.
3 Aug 2009, 08:36 am
#829 captain fantail: YEa he did it and I think it was a ****** thing to do….although on the other side of the coin, they have cleaned up their act big time in the last few years (with the notable exception of Burger’s brain implosion) I think it puzzles a lot of Saffas to be honest, no-one saw that one coming!
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