Deans angered by slack finish
19 Sep 2009
Robbie Deans was not a happy man with the way his Wallabies side gave up towards the end of their Test against New Zealand.
The result was still in the balance heading into the final 10 minutes, but once the All Blacks broke clear, Australian heads began to drop. The final try to Ma’a Nonu saw a number of weak tackles brushed off, something that did not impress the Wallabies coach.
‘After the All Blacks scored we rolled over and that was disappointing,’ said Deans. ‘When the game went out of our reach we departed the contest. I guess how damaging that is will depend on the response.’
The Wallabies were coming off a convincing victory over the Springboks, but didn’t have the same intensity as in Brisbane.
‘The margins are small in Test rugby and as we alluded to prior to the game. You have to earn your stripes in every outing – we were looking for the next job when the first job hadn’t been done,’ he said.
‘The All Blacks were hugely desperate, they played very well. We had a lot of hope but not a lot of intensity against an All Blacks side that was under the pump and didn’t want to be the first side to lose three matches at home.
‘But the most disappointing thing from our position was we capitulated when the game was gone.’
39 Comments
19 Sep 2009, 18:34 pm
Kiwi Dragons!
19 Sep 2009, 22:57 pm
Spies got Nonu a number of times on the cover defense, 5 wallabies couldn’t stop Nonu!
20 Sep 2009, 00:08 am
I’d also be angered with that performance if I was there coach.
They’ve taken two heavy defects, one to each team, in the last two years. Robbie cant be please with that.
53-8 vs. Boks
33-6 vs. All Blacks
20 Sep 2009, 00:14 am
I’m clearly drunk.
Words should be: their, defeats, pleased
20 Sep 2009, 02:28 am
#4 WP_: Don’t worry about the typos. Nobody here is scrutinising the posts except TheTackler, and that dude has major issues.
20 Sep 2009, 03:52 am
maybe the wallabies need a new coach i think
20 Sep 2009, 06:08 am
#5 Quagmire: The mere fact that I’m watching over you pilgrims and your abuse of good spelling and grammar automatically means that you ALL feel the need to up your game quite substantially. That’s a good thing. I’m the hawk keeping all the itinerant sparrows nervous enough to think long and hard about their next flight. Heh! Heh!
20 Sep 2009, 10:03 am
The aussies are a young team and to expect consistency from them at this stage is like expecting the Kavaliers to beat the Bulls.
The result against the Boks proves they have the players but the coaching staff need to take a leaf out of the Boks coaching manual and build up their experience. Come 2011 the aussies will be one of the tornament favourites
20 Sep 2009, 10:04 am
Along with the Boks and France. Based on this season the AB’s should find consistency and lose in the quarters again
20 Sep 2009, 10:48 am
#8 DEE DAH: You having a laugh, the AB just simply showed how easy it is to dismantle them.
If Barnes and Matt G go then that team will be completely useless.
As WP siad in a previous listing
Tri Naions Standings:
No 1 – South Africa
No 2 – Day light
No 3 – AB
No 4 – Day light
No 5 – Whinging Aussies.
20 Sep 2009, 10:49 am
#9 DEE DAH: haha you wish- the
boks got flogged by the Wallys who made the Boks look the same way we made the Wallys look last nite– a mess. We all know we have seen the best game the Boks have had for years, all against two teams who were at odds and evens and in a mess and this is the sole reason the Boks have had the year they, playing teams in a bit of mess and alot of luck. The proof of the pudding D Dah will be how you roll out the carpet next year, the year that will tell us who will be hot and who will not.IMO, the Boks have a certain Star quality about them, Shooting star and history shows that only about every 6 years or so when other teams are developing and re building do they tend do well. If you doubt me have alook at the trend my friend– 3/14 tri-nations, 2/6 ranked no1, luck in the finals at the WC to only have to play England, luck against the Lions, and deserved wins at the S14 and 7′s, which are not the National teams. If I were the Bok m’ment, I would be buying powder for a lot of sweaty palm sensations as us Kiwis regroup, and get ready to smash you all back into place- No 2. But good luck and talk next year.
20 Sep 2009, 10:57 am
#11 captain fantail: You also live in a dream world, as you put it “teams who were at odds and evens and in a mess” – this is from pressure that cannot be absorbed…..and the AB did not deserve to be in the WC – cause you were fairly beaten so don’t get on the band wagan as the wallies.Everbody who is anybody admits that te Bokke are the best team in the worrd and at the tim ethey won teh WC – so get over it….
20 Sep 2009, 11:11 am
Thanks Quagmire, tackler has issues. Grow up tackler.
I agree with rugbystud.
and by the way the boks were hardly flogged mate, stop getting carried away. In that game v the aussies it was 9-6 until the 65th minute and their 2nd try was from an aussie knock on. I’m not one for excuses but you can not say that is was a hammering mate, the Boks were out passioned, very understandable in the middle week of a 3 week tour (something you kiwi’s never have to endure!) and were only 1 try off the pace.
Deal with the fact that the boks are the best team in the world and will be again next year.
20 Sep 2009, 11:50 am
#7 TheTackler: You flatter yourself far too much … what happens when your woman spells incorrectly – do you beat the hell out of her like the rest of your new NZ compatriots?
20 Sep 2009, 11:55 am
#11 captain fantail: The proof of the pudding is always “the next game” conveniently, isn’t it? Just like the proof of the pudding is ‘the next world cup’ for the AB’s. All the ‘blah blah blah’ doesn’t alter the fact – a 3-0 whitewash for the Boks against the AB’s. Spread your tail wider, fanny, and hide behind it. Or go have a drink and beat your wife.
20 Sep 2009, 12:28 pm
#15 CharlieBrown:
Have You Okes jailed that Bokke kiddy Fiddler yet?
20 Sep 2009, 12:35 pm
#13 WP_:
The longer the tour the better. Sleeping patterns and jet lag become less of an issue.
Did any of the Lions Touring Party whinge about Travel, Hotel Fatigue or 2nd Tour match Syndrome?
20 Sep 2009, 12:54 pm
#17 cane:
Cane you know there is no huge change in time zone from UK to SA
but yes the tour match syndrome is a funny one.
Laughter is, after all the best medicine.
20 Sep 2009, 12:58 pm
#17
Whatever, your bunch were bitching about the two week tour your guys had to “last out” for this year.
And what about the constant bitching and whining from the kiwi’s about the altitude factor and the ‘pains of playing on the highveld’ – is really quite pathetic. It really hardly makes a difference but its a convenient excuse for you guys whenever you lose.
20 Sep 2009, 13:07 pm
‘But the most disappointing thing from our position was we capitulated when the game was gone.’
the game was gone mate, did you want the team to capitulate in the change room?
20 Sep 2009, 13:08 pm
#19 WP_:
Playing on the Veld is a fact of life.
And we don’t whine about it. It’s just another challenge to be overcome.
The odd win that comes our way, against the Veldites, is thus all the more sweet.
And when we go to Brisbane, we do not invent things like “Hotel Fatigue”.
20 Sep 2009, 13:09 pm
#17 cane: in 2012 I expect many a kiwi to be blaming travel fatigue on many more loses.
20 Sep 2009, 13:16 pm
Dont be thick cane.
Our demanding travel schedule is also a fact of life. Its just another one of the challenges we have to overcome.
Any time you play a game at altitude there are always kiwi bitching about it, its focused on more than the match itself. Its always the highveld thats beaten you, not the opposition. Its a tired old excuse now.
And why would your boys get hotel fatigue in Brisbane, you just hope across the ditch to get there. And if you used your brain you would have recalled that the Boks actually stayed longer in Brisbane in order to avoid getting bored in a dump like Hamilton.
20 Sep 2009, 13:19 pm
…hop across…
20 Sep 2009, 13:53 pm
Your silence is deafining co-cane.
You know what i say is the truth.
20 Sep 2009, 17:34 pm
The reality though is that all of us Bok supporters have to admit that although this has been an excellent start, in order to claim ultimate equality with or supremacy over the other southern hemisphere teams – most notably the ABs, we will have to become as consistent – or moreso – as them.
We have lacked that consistency in the professional era. Considering there are these constant political sideshows – which are probably more of a factor than the travelling schedule or altitude, we have done pretty well. However, the AB aura is based on consistency which is undeniable. Their record speaks for itself. They will regain their composure and get organized and the Boks shouldn’t become complacent. They should be trying to build depth so that when Matfield, Smith and Dupreez depart, there are worthy successors. Hopefully the team management knows this.
20 Sep 2009, 18:51 pm
#11 captain fantail:
What a whinger… though you were a NZlander, not Australian. Really am going to enjoy watching NZ choke at home in 2011.
20 Sep 2009, 19:35 pm
#11 Captain Fannytail
You are an idiot of note. That was probably the most, one-eyed, short sighted, biased, dimwitted, factually wrong, conceited, bitching post I have ever read on this site.
And thats asking a lot, given the type of characters we get on here sometimes. So well done, moron.
21 Sep 2009, 05:05 am
#3 WP_: Dont forget that the Wallys left you with a 0 scoreline…but oh yeah, so have the AB’s, so it maybe worth considering( before we hear your deluge of excuses of course) that before you start poking others. I mean a Zero scoreline at international level is the most humiliating, embarrassing,unexplainable and redfaced thing any team can ever experience– even Itlay and Portugal get points on the board but the Boks at Zero- ???
21 Sep 2009, 05:18 am
#28 WP_: Hey you have your opinion and i have mine. Mine are not targeted at the Boks personally, but more at the lower end of the intelligence scale that offers up their own brand of arrogance over winning a really wobbly series. As for your name calling, tell someone who really wants to hear your school girl language. The fact of the matter is, the
boks have had a great year, no doubt. If you think they had a great year playing teams who were fully represented on an even playing field you can think that. I dont think that either the AB’s or the Wallys have been anywhere near their true potential and I think that is why you won and with the margins you did shows that if we had been a ‘full force’ the story may have been different, which I will always consider to be the case. I dont think the Boks will improve that much and thats why I said we have seen their best game(s), if it wasnt their best game(s)why did the Wallys smack them so heavily and the AB’s nearly run them off in the last quarter and why were the margins so small for a team that is verging on ‘greatness’…PDV can talk up a goats *** for all I care, but the facts are in front of you to see, take heed or not I dont care WP, but I would say at a guess most supporters, Bok or not will know that what we have seen this series is far from the best the AB’s have and the Wallys so if you are so one eyed, short sighted, dim witted,conceited, arrogant and wish to remain in denial of the devastation which is looming- please be my guest but dont come crying here when it happens.
21 Sep 2009, 07:22 am
Oh Cap’n Fanny,
Whine, whine and whine. Excuses, excuses, excuses. As Deans says (but I’m sure you know better) the AB’s were despearte to win and all over the field, putting in numbers at every ruck. Add to that was Craig Joubert’s somewhat lenient approach to the AB’s going over the ball and selaing it off and his incredible patience with the scrums.
Sa lost to the Wally’s trying to play a runnin ggame whereas the AB’s played percentage rugby not unlike the Boks and brutalised the lightweight Oz backline.
G’day to you sir, after all NZ’ders are just Aussies in training.
21 Sep 2009, 07:54 am
#23 WP_: “Its always the highveld thats beaten you, not the opposition. Its a tired old excuse now.”
I have the suspicion highveld has beaten more often your own teams, not Kiwi ones.
#10 Rugbystud: Five nations already?
Then there is no place for Argies left.
21 Sep 2009, 07:57 am
#12 Rugbystud: “and the AB did not deserve to be in the WC – cause you were fairly beaten so don’t get on the band wagan as the wallies”
From now on you do not have any right to whinge about the ref, especially Barnes.
21 Sep 2009, 10:34 am
captain fantail – I do agree, when the Boks implode they do it well, however when they win the big games they do that well too! Consistency is the Boks biggest problem and the pressure to keep their performance’s up will mount for next year’s 3N. As we saw after 98 3N’s white wash, the Boks were exhausted the following year and lsot heavily in the 3N but faired well in the RWC!!
But for now we will take the 3 wins over the ABs this year as it ups the win Ratio a bit!!
21 Sep 2009, 10:40 am
#30 captain fantail: the Wallabies are at their true potential, they aren’t any good and haven’t been for years. I can never fathom why NZ get so excited about a win over Australia like it’s a huge achievement. The ABs can maybe gain something with Hayman if GP rugby doesn’t injure him but that’s about it, they have no more tough guys up front and the Boks are at the top they don’t need to improve.
21 Sep 2009, 10:49 am
#31 husky: This comment really gives me the Sh**ts#35 Big Hit: Thank you for that assessment, Whats your excuse with your England team? As for our performance on Saturday, Mentally and Physically we didn’t show up, why, I’ve got no idea, that performance left Deans and Aus wondering what the hell is going on. Can they improve, I don’t know after that last game as the problem seems mental.
21 Sep 2009, 10:57 am
#36 SAussie/QldRed: the problem isn’t mental in my opinion, and as has been alluded to in the Aussie press the problem is raw material in the forward pack and let’s face it, it has been for years. Maybe Vickerman can make a difference, beyond that I think the Wallabies are going to continue to struggle.
21 Sep 2009, 11:41 am
#37 Big Hit: Why would one man make a difference, Vickerman was playing when your team knocked us out of the WC, I seem to remember. I’m not so sure its not mental. They’ve matched the AB’s and Bokks before and beaten both teams and you can’t do that if you are weak up front period. Consistency is the key and hard to obtain. The TN is an uncompromising and brutal tournament and you can watch the game on the weeknd and say, the Wallabies are **** are easy beates but thats playing against one of the best sides in the world, and at home, who are desperate to win. I don’t think their that weak but they have some sole searching to do, I for one will hope they sort it out
21 Sep 2009, 11:53 am
#38 SAussie/QldRed: one man can make a difference, e.g. Hayman for NZ, or if you take Thorn out of the NZ pack now. That said, maybe Vickerman isn’t of the quality to make that much difference. I would point out that that England pack which knocked Australia out was the biggest and heaviest ever assembled probably of any nation ever, they were more of a tank than a forward pack.
I don’t think Australia are weak up front period, generally if they get close to parity in the forwards against any team they can win because their backs are better and more attacking than most nations. However, I do think they really have to play well above themselves to get close to that parity these days and that’s hard to do every game. I also don’t think NZ are that good this year, they struggled against France, laboured against Italy and went down 3-0 to the Boks and are also suffering from some front five weakness. I think Aus play NZ too much, 4 times a year against a team which is better (albeit marginally) is just too much and soul-destroying for the supporters and team.
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