Joost given the boot
2 Nov 2009
SuperSport have fired Joost van der Westhuizen as a presenter/commentator after his confessions he made in his biography.
In the book Joost: The Man in the Mirror, the former Springbok scrumhalf admitted that he snorted drugs and featured in a sex video after denying it earlier this year.
SuperSport International spokesperson Clinton van der Berg said they have held meetings with Van der Westhuizen with regards to the matter and the two parties have agreed to part ways.
‘SuperSport has perused extracts from Joost van der Westhuizen’s biography and held discussions with him,’ said Van der Berg. ‘Following those discussions, SuperSport and Joost have mutually agreed to terminate the freelance agreement between them, forthwith.
‘SuperSport thanks Joost for his contributions as a commentator and presenter and wishes him all the best for the future. SuperSport shall make no further comment on this matter.’
Meanwhile, Van der Westhuizen has made a public apology in a recent interview with the Rapport.
‘I am very, very sorry that I lied. Please forgive me,’ he said.
218 Comments
2 Nov 2009, 08:44 am
sis man, some role model
2 Nov 2009, 08:46 am
Screw up, then write a book about it and make some money. A bit like Corne Krige.
2 Nov 2009, 08:46 am
Foek, did you read the sunday times yesterday?
2 Nov 2009, 08:47 am
Dead, dead shark-like eyes.
No feeling.
Never trusted him.
2 Nov 2009, 08:47 am
#3 Provincejoulekkading: no… what happened?
2 Nov 2009, 08:48 am
#2 CharlieBrown:
Fool.
You can’t compare the two.
2 Nov 2009, 08:48 am
#2 CharlieBrown:
2 Nov 2009, 08:49 am
#6 Dawn: He captained the Springboks on his test debut in a 101-0 victory over Italy in Durban
2 Nov 2009, 08:50 am
Honestly say that i am glad that he has eventually told the truth.
He will struggle to forgive himself….. Hansie did.
But then again – he has done some stupid things in life and some good things…… like i did.
It’s gonna be a uphill struggle ….. but like NIKE says on their posters………
There is no shortcut to a comeback!
Ek gaanie die ou met klippe gooi nie!
2 Nov 2009, 08:50 am
#8 SpringbokSarah:
I mean in terms of transgressions.
2 Nov 2009, 08:51 am
Firing him is ridiculous. Whoever said sportsmen are supposed to be saints? Regarding sportsmen and women as role models is stupid to begin with. Aside from having a career path that is in the limelight they are no different to the rest of us.
2 Nov 2009, 08:52 am
#5 SpringbokSarah: The dude(joost) talk talks about his wifes explosive diarrhea, thats not farking cool.
2 Nov 2009, 08:53 am
#10 Dawn: shame man… poor captain
#12 Provincejoulekkading: sis man
2 Nov 2009, 08:53 am
#2 CharlieBrown:
I suspect Joost released the book because of how desperate his financial situation is now (well from what I’ve read).
2 Nov 2009, 08:54 am
#11 Cyborg:
So you think lying around with prostitutes and taking drugs while you have a family at home and are an ex Springbok rugby player is the thing to do.
2 Nov 2009, 08:55 am
I’m now gonna go out and start ******** everything in sight, take some illegal substances, and wake up in the gutter.
Who cares.
2 Nov 2009, 08:57 am
Personally i feel this is a case of karma coming back to bite the man.
What i want to know is why hasn’t he been arrested for drug use? Last time i checked it was illegal.
2 Nov 2009, 08:58 am
those days anything went
2 Nov 2009, 08:58 am
#17 Ig:
Morning babes.
2 Nov 2009, 09:01 am
#19 Dawn: Hey Dawn – how goes it….
2 Nov 2009, 09:04 am
“Man in The Mirror”? ‘Scuse me for being a cynic but is this not cashing in on the Michael jackson…thing? A movie about the pop icon with the exact phrasing was released 5 years ago…
2 Nov 2009, 09:05 am
#20 Ig:
OK I suppose.
I don’t do Mondays.
2 Nov 2009, 09:06 am
#22 Dawn: No-one should have to do Mondays.
2 Nov 2009, 09:10 am
SuperSport fired him first and foremost because he’s a really poor commentator. This shnarfing bj video was just more bullets in the SuperSport gun.
Now I wish I can uncover Bros and Stransky’s video’d indiscretions, although I shudder to think what those would entail.
2 Nov 2009, 09:10 am
#11 Cyborg:
Yes you’re right, we all make mistakes. The only problem is that he was hired because he’s an ex Bok and a high profile figure. Most of the fuss had died down until the idiot went public in his book.
Super Sport had no choice but to fire him, then.
BTW, when his kids grow up, how do you think they’ll feel knowing there’s a book out there from their father, with all the sordid details?
2 Nov 2009, 09:12 am
#24 katman:
Moeilik.
2 Nov 2009, 09:13 am
#25 David:
That Cyborg comment is the stupidest I’ve ever seen.
No-one is thinking about the kids.
2 Nov 2009, 09:14 am
#24 katman:
Historical Currie Cup final stats between the Bulls and Cheetahs are now about 9-1 in favour of the Bulls.
Just thought I’d mention it to you, you being such a stats fundi and all.
2 Nov 2009, 09:16 am
#23 Ig:
Wanna join me for full house breakfast in Camps Bay?
2 Nov 2009, 09:19 am
Good stuff. Now if SuperSport could only find an excuse to get rid of more the rubbish..
2 Nov 2009, 09:23 am
The most unprofessional commentating job I’ve had the misfortune to experience, was Bob Skinstad during the Bulls/WP semi final.
He was so biased it was embarrassing to listen to. Every call by the referee against WP was questioned, and the emotion in his voice when WP did something good was a dead giveaway.
Luckily, Matthew Pierce – despite not being a Bulls fan – was professional enough to try and give a neutral account of the game.
To hear Skinstad’s grudging admission when Pearce pointed out the unsporting behaviour of the Newlands crowd was sickening, really.
He really pissed me off throughout that match.
2 Nov 2009, 09:26 am
#31 Tacitus:
Blah blah you hate WP and everything remotely associated with it except the stupid Blue Bulls supporting cullarts.
2 Nov 2009, 09:27 am
#32 Dawn:
Why so angry, Dawnie? Bulls spoil your weekend?
2 Nov 2009, 09:28 am
#33 Tacitus:
No.
I didn’t get laid.
2 Nov 2009, 09:34 am
#34 Dawn:
That’s more info than I needed to hear.
2 Nov 2009, 09:37 am
#34 Dawn:
You should have given Jooste a call.
2 Nov 2009, 09:37 am
Good luck to Joost and his family.
2 Nov 2009, 09:44 am
#36 David:
Gimme credit for some taste.
2 Nov 2009, 09:45 am
#35 Tacitus:
I have ways to shut you up effectively.
2 Nov 2009, 09:45 am
My initial reaction was that a persons private life shouldn’t have an affect on their career.
Then again why should Supersport’s reputation be smeared by an employee’s behaviour?
Joost was a freelance commentator for Supersport that pretty much means that they could discontinue his employment at anytime for any reason.
Joost showed his maturity levels when he stated “A beautiful woman is making sexual advances and you have a pregnant wife at home what would you do?” Well Joost I would have gone home to my pregnant wife only an immature self obsessed *** would have opted to snort drugs and get a quick gobble.
2 Nov 2009, 09:46 am
#36 David:
Where do you get off making a comment like this anyway.
2 Nov 2009, 09:47 am
I never liked Joost’s commentating style anyway but to fire him because of what has emerged here is a bit unfair if you ask me.
None of us know what Clinton Vd Berg does to titillate himself and neither should we because it’s his personal business but why be so judgemental on Joost?
2 Nov 2009, 09:49 am
#31 Tacitus: Well I can clearly hear the emotion in your voice as you type your passionate criticism of Skinstad. You’re positively quivering.
But well done to your team anyway. They were pretty good on the day and deserved the victory.
2 Nov 2009, 09:52 am
#42 Jozi:
Am I missing something here?
In the testosterone laden Moftus blue-air is this type of behaviour acceptable?
2 Nov 2009, 09:52 am
#43 katman:
You’re very perceptive indeed. And there I thought I was hiding my feelings pretty well.
Thanks for the congratulations. As I mentioned earlier, my 15 point winning margin prediction wasn’t too far off the mark, in the end.
Although after 20 minutes I was really hoping for another Chiefs result.
2 Nov 2009, 09:54 am
#40 DEE DAH: I didn’t get that bit either. Was he implying that having a pregnant wife at home was a mitigating circumstance for his behaviour? Because I thought it was the other way round – that having your wife carry your child made you fiercely loyal and protective of your family. Maybe I’m just old fashioned.
2 Nov 2009, 09:54 am
#44 Dawn:
Let me venture into this Joost discussion by saying that I still admire him for his rugby skills, but my respect for him as a human being has plummeted.
Frankly, I don’t believe him when he says this was the only time he stepped over the line.
But, I hope he can turn his life around an become a good father and husband.
That’s all I have to say on the matter.
2 Nov 2009, 09:59 am
#47 Tacitus:
As all rugby players should be discussed, what happens between the 4 white lines. This is afterall a rugby website, I am sure You or Huisgenoot has a blog on celebrities and their lifestyles.
He f-ed up, he has to own up – good luck to him.
2 Nov 2009, 09:59 am
#44 Dawn: I’m not saying it is but what has that got to do with him and his ability to comment on the game that he played for so many years and a game which he obviously knows very well.
His private life is his private life. I agree what he did was wrong but is the criteria for being a freelance journo with supersport a pastor like reputation?
2 Nov 2009, 09:59 am
a mans weakness is a mans weakness even US presidents mostly come short, not to mention South African ones. Jfk and Marilynne, Bill Clinton and Monica, JZ and his house guest. Joost and the pro. Role models, ha, such things you only find in fairy tales. When it comes down to brass farthing’s its usually the hormones that have the last laugh.
2 Nov 2009, 10:02 am
#48 PissAnt:
Indeed. However, I would be dishonest if I said my antipathy towards some other rugby players sprouted purely from their performances on the field.
The tattooed WP captain comes to mind, for example, and a few others.
So what’s good for the goose, must be good for the gander.
2 Nov 2009, 10:03 am
#49 Jozi: If his ability to commentate was the main criteria, he would have been kicked out after his first SuperSport gig. Let’s face it, he got by on his celebrity status alone. As do a bunch of others.
2 Nov 2009, 10:04 am
all the best joost, how were you supposed to know that the woman was taping the bloody thing? Lol…eish!!!
2 Nov 2009, 10:05 am
#41 Dawn:
I was just trying to be helpfull.
#42 Jozi:
We don’t know what Clinton does because he’s not stupid or self centred enough to write a book about it.
2 Nov 2009, 10:05 am
#51 Tacitus:
The WP captain is no longer a problem.
He’s gone.
2 Nov 2009, 10:06 am
#52 katman: Hahahahaha….ok on that one you’re right.
2 Nov 2009, 10:06 am
#51 Tacitus:
Yes, indeed.
2 Nov 2009, 10:06 am
#54 David:
Your version of helpful borders on offensive.
2 Nov 2009, 10:07 am
#6 Dawn: True, Joost was a far better player. He was a better captain too, never knocked his own player out and never disgraced the Boks whilest playing, which is more than can be said for ‘Staaldraad’ Krige.
What they do personally though i don’t care about.
2 Nov 2009, 10:07 am
Bunch of poncies here today.
“Indeeding” all over the place.
2 Nov 2009, 10:09 am
#58 Dawn:
And your revelations about your weekends disappointment was the height of good taste.
2 Nov 2009, 10:10 am
60 Dawn, not for long……
2 Nov 2009, 10:10 am
#60 Dawn:
I have registered that word as my personal trademark.
I was using it long before anyone else, and will continue to do so!
2 Nov 2009, 10:10 am
#50 skopskiet: I think sporting role models can exist, I can’t imagine Bryan Habana for example, getting involved in something like that off the field, many others too. Not judging JVdW tho, cast no stones and all that
2 Nov 2009, 10:12 am
#59 CharlieBrown:
Fine.
Let’s petition the Vatican for Joost’s beatification.
2 Nov 2009, 10:12 am
#61 David:
I deal in facts.
Who said anything about good taste.
2 Nov 2009, 10:16 am
Joost at least yourre still loved in your hometown Danville.
2 Nov 2009, 10:16 am
#64 Big Hit: That’s only if you live in a glass house. Is there something you’d like to get off your chest?
2 Nov 2009, 10:18 am
#64 Big Hit: You see BH it’s that sort of thinking that made some people hysterical when Hansie admitted to his indescretions. It’s not wise to put these sports people on a pedestal they are human after all.
for all we know Habs may have already done the dirty with some poppie in bloem. To be honest I don’t care about such things all I want to see is a sportman perform to the best of his abilities on the field of play.
2 Nov 2009, 10:19 am
#68 katman: it’s a biblical quote as opposed to the glass house one, “let he who is without sin, cast the first stone”.
2 Nov 2009, 10:20 am
#69 Jozi:
Well I DO care, and I will continue to put these guys on a pedestal, and hold them to the high standards I have for myself.
And if they disappoint me one by one, well, so be it.
But my view of how people SHOULD live their lives, will never change.
2 Nov 2009, 10:20 am
Supersport should’ve fired him a while back. Not because of the *** scandal but because he is a really **** commentator
2 Nov 2009, 10:20 am
Red undies with holes, white socks and a few lines of white powder. All boxes ticked for a good ol Danville ho-down.
2 Nov 2009, 10:22 am
#73 Slappes:
I sense a lot of hate there, mate.
2 Nov 2009, 10:23 am
#74 Tacitus:
I sense a lot of hate when you talk about WP.
What’s different.
2 Nov 2009, 10:24 am
The *** part of the scandal is one thing, Joos only answers to Amore for that, the drug taking is another issue though.
he has admitted that if it was available he would use it.
we all know the Joos was projected and perceived by most Afrikaans people as the golden boy with the clean cut, God serving image.
That is what has been tarnished and a whole lot of dad’s now need to explain to their kids why their hero did what he did.
But he has apologised and more than that he cannot do, I doubt whether he will save his marriage, but good luck to all of them, hope in the end it works out for all of them !!
2 Nov 2009, 10:25 am
#75 Dawn:
Good question. Let me think about it a bit in order to formulate a good reply.
At the moment, you’ve pretty much got me.
2 Nov 2009, 10:26 am
what a doos. always has been and always will be. supersport should have booted him ages ago.
i am not sure who outside of pretoria would want to read his book
2 Nov 2009, 10:26 am
#69 Jozi: personally I don’t think the idea that sportsmen can or should be role models should be entirely thrown out because of a few wayward individuals. I do take your point however.
2 Nov 2009, 10:27 am
#71 Tacitus: I understand what you’re saying but these are sports people Tac not Religious leaders or presidents/prime ministers.
My moral convictions are mine alone, I cannot go around trying to force them on other people. I don’t drink alocohol for example and I get asked why my response is; I don’t like the taste of it and I also don’t like how people behave once they’re drunk but I cannot expect everyone around me to be like that.
2 Nov 2009, 10:28 am
#73 Slappes:
was it not the socks that had holes in them….I think you are letting your imagination run riot….
2 Nov 2009, 10:28 am
Die Blou Bul vreetie vannie vloer affie!
2 Nov 2009, 10:29 am
I don’t agree with what he did, and it’s none of my business.
But the fact that he didn’t have the balls to come clean when caught with his pants down, now that leaves a bad taste in the mouth and will make it damn near impossible to regain and credibility he might have had.
But good luck to his wife and kids.
2 Nov 2009, 10:29 am
#76 justrugby: if amor had any sense she would have given him the boot
2 Nov 2009, 10:32 am
what i dont read anywhere is a well done to the ref ???
amazing how many were saying kaplan is kak and would end up favouring one of the teams
he did neither and made for a great spectacle
WELL DONE MR KAPLAN you are the worlds no 1 ref
2 Nov 2009, 10:33 am
Maybe a few full colour ‘action shots’ of his off the field activities might help shift a few more copies of his book.
2 Nov 2009, 10:34 am
#76 justrugby:
I think Amore needs Joost….she is a very expensive girl…mind you I believe the U boat commander’s finances are dwindling…so who knows…
2 Nov 2009, 10:35 am
#76 justrugby: I agree. I attended a meeting where he spoke about his faith. I am also sure he has been on the front of Huisgenoot with Amor, looking like the perfect family man. In this situation he created a persona for himself that obviously benefited him. When he contradicts that, he must pay the price.
2 Nov 2009, 10:36 am
Do punters even listen to RSA scribes after the bulshite Snor and Hoskins have fed them>
2 Nov 2009, 10:36 am
When the Bokke toured NZ in 94′ this guy was shagging my girlfriends sister, he was a w*nker then and it would seem he still is.
2 Nov 2009, 10:36 am
#88 WOLFMAN21: people firstly lets not judge as we all make mistakes in life
but fact is yes joost has dissapointed many fans , young and old
2 Nov 2009, 10:37 am
Congratulations to the Bulls on their Currie Cup triumph!!
Well done to the Cheetahs for making a close game of it… Put’s into perspective the Bulls S14 win and the state of SA rugby!
On topic…
Never been a big Joost fan but have to acknowldge his rugby achievements…
However, I think this whole thing has been blown way OTT by the media… Like everyone here I condemn cheating on your spouse… but heck… if they had to fire every rugby player, business exec, politician or priest who has done the same there’d be very few Chiefs and a helluva lot of Indians…
2 Nov 2009, 10:39 am
#83 Dantalian:
jeez you think you have a bad taste in your mouth?
what about the poppy in the video?
I suspect she is still gargling listerine as we speak…
2 Nov 2009, 10:40 am
#91 sharks_lover: Dude, like I said, I am not judging Joost, I am just stating that he portrayed himself as a God-fearing family man, which played a role in his popularity. If he contradicts that, he should pay the price, such as being fired from Supersport.
2 Nov 2009, 10:41 am
SO he admits it was him with the holes in the underwear?
2 Nov 2009, 10:41 am
#92 ufo: true ufo
look at steve stof suier
nasty botha etc
they all have dark little secrets and i am sure many more
naas lied about his child and said not his till it was proven medically it is his child
and now a new child in the cape maybe???
anyhows like i said i aint gonna sit in here and judge anyone
2 Nov 2009, 10:41 am
#90 NZINCHINA:
He was probably just trying to improve the rugby gene pool in NZ.
2 Nov 2009, 10:43 am
#94 WOLFMAN21: woah never said you judged boet
we re-iterating what you said
2 Nov 2009, 10:45 am
wolfie sorry mate i just read back how i stated it no wonder ya thought i was saying you were judging
2 Nov 2009, 10:45 am
#97 David:
lord knows its been a while since they’ve had a decent scrumhalf…
2 Nov 2009, 10:50 am
NZinCH, mate thats not true, he in fact was shagging both sisters.
2 Nov 2009, 10:51 am
Heard John Robbie says Joost wasn’t only the best scrummie ever….
he says he was one of the 5 best rugby players ever in the world and maybe the best….
2 Nov 2009, 10:51 am
well maybe some here got the highest standards of human morality going as their compass of life. Perhaps some these good men follow the good book to the letter and woe betide the next. Its these self made pedestals that are the bane of a poor red blooded males conscience because only they know deep down what thoughts pervade their secret thinking. Now tell me which sportsman or president or pastor or politician or principled prince of fortune passes the true test. I know for a fact I don’t. I guess all you are saying is its relative to how principled and how morally upright you set your bar of morality. If you asking a human sports person to become a god, you practically begging him to fail and more often than not they’ll oblige your expectation.
2 Nov 2009, 10:53 am
#101 Slappes:
2 Nov 2009, 10:53 am
#17 Ig:
You need proof.
2 Nov 2009, 10:54 am
#102 Staal:
This from a man who lives forever in the shadow of Gareth Edwards as a B&IL scrumhalf.
2 Nov 2009, 10:55 am
Joost, Percy, Hansie, Dalton, Mulder, Small, wie nog ookal?
You looking for role models then sportsmen should perhaps be last on your list, like everyone else, they only human.
2 Nov 2009, 10:57 am
#93 gunther:
2 Nov 2009, 10:58 am
#99 sharks_lover: No worries dude!
2 Nov 2009, 10:58 am
#102 Staal:
sounds like John Robbie must have been ‘hangin’ with Joost too.
2 Nov 2009, 10:59 am
#107 skopskiet: Dead right Skop but the Media knows that there are people out there who love their heroes hence they build them up then destroy them. It’s been happening for as long as I can remember.
2 Nov 2009, 11:01 am
congrats to the bulls
2 Nov 2009, 11:01 am
How did they come up with the title of the book?
2 Nov 2009, 11:03 am
#21 BishopsOD:
The title refers to a poem by Dale Wimbrow called, The guy in the glass. It has nothing to do with MJ.
Kitch Christie gave the 1995 WC squad the poem to read as part of their preparation. The message being that after all is said and done, you still have to answer to the man in the mirror, YOU.
2 Nov 2009, 11:04 am
#106 David: hehehehehehe – but he has seen a few…..
2 Nov 2009, 11:04 am
#107 skopskiet:
You forgot to add Henry Tromp to your list, he’s right up there with Hansie.
2 Nov 2009, 11:05 am
#115 Staal:
Yes, but through the bottom of the glass.
2 Nov 2009, 11:06 am
#113 Dantalian:
joost wanted to take advantage of the current michael jackson hysteria…
2 Nov 2009, 11:06 am
#107 skopskiet: Whilst nobody is perfect, I don’t agree that a sportsman cannot also be a role model. Your Bryan Habanas, Richie McCaws, Os Du Randts, why shouldn’t kids look up to them and want to follow the example they set both on with their play and off the field with their manners, humility and good grace.
2 Nov 2009, 11:07 am
#114 nama1:
He should’ve called it The Guy In The Glass, then.
All comparisons with MJ wouldn’t have happened.
2 Nov 2009, 11:08 am
#114 nama1:
But then everyone would’ve thought Joost was Alkolis Anoniem.
2 Nov 2009, 11:08 am
#118 gunther: I see.
2 Nov 2009, 11:10 am
#119 Big Hit:
it’s all good and well to be looked up to but would you like to live your life always looking over your shoulder hoping someone is’nt watching you
2 Nov 2009, 11:10 am
He should have called it ‘Hoereer en bekeer… en doen dit weer’.
2 Nov 2009, 11:11 am
#120 Dawn:
Hey Dawn…
Surely he should’ve called it…
“The Guy in the Video…!!”
farking smilies…
2 Nov 2009, 11:16 am
#113 Dantalian: The name came to him as he bent forward over, rolled up 50 in hand.
2 Nov 2009, 11:17 am
#124 Dantalian: lol
2 Nov 2009, 11:17 am
#126 katman: Makes a lot of sense.
2 Nov 2009, 11:24 am
I think it’s a good title given the circumstances around his personal life. At the end of the day, he does have to explain anything to any of us but himself and his family.
In any case, Joost is much bigger in Pretoria than MJ. His supporters have probably never heard a song by MJ with that name! I mean, anybody who listens to Liefling, come on …
2 Nov 2009, 11:24 am
#126 katman:
indeed …. rolled up fifties are for second hand car salesman on the west rand and washed-up sports …personally I would never go below a leopard on the basis that they have been handled by fewer people…
2 Nov 2009, 11:24 am
BH until just recently Percy was part of that top echelon list of role model do gooders, then something slipped between cup and lip and down the spiral of morality we tumble.
Maybe some people are born with the good grace to be perfect role models, maybe something in their upbringing or inherent human psyche is above the pitfalls that beset others faced with temptation or their own human weakness and are able to stand up tall and not succumb. I wouldn’t start such immeasurable expectations on anyone, obviously there are degrees to righteousness and morality but even kings and prophets have been found wanting when push came to shove.
Who said but for the grace of who go I. Fame and fortune can be a bugger especially to someone not conditioned adequately to handle it.
Everyone makes their own bed and circumstance, but the mind is such it don’t take much to lose ones footing if you scrambling close to the edge of super stardom. Individuals are who they are, being a sportsman or woman hardly comes into the reckoning when it comes to determining morality or lack of it.
2 Nov 2009, 11:28 am
#129 nama1:
Thinking about it, Liefling is probably playing day and night in the Joost household.
“Liefling, kan ons nie maar vergeet en vergewe…”
How apt.
2 Nov 2009, 11:28 am
Joost and Amor has until very recently been branded as South Africa’s own Beckhams. It is in the light of this aborted initiative that I suggest they call the next print run of the book: From Beckhams to Bokkoms.
2 Nov 2009, 11:30 am
…or ‘Van hoer tot in my moer’
2 Nov 2009, 11:40 am
Personally I would have given the book a black cover with a curved, swoosh like line of white powder running across it. Beneath would be the words: Joost did it.
2 Nov 2009, 11:48 am
Katman, Dantalion
farkin funny!
2 Nov 2009, 11:51 am
or three stripes on the cover
with an acronym for All Day I Dream About ***..
2 Nov 2009, 11:53 am
Well well…………………
Great Rugby player. Maybe the most instinctive halfback ever.
Always looked dodgy though.
Those beady eyes were too close together. He looked like a grave robber from some 1950′s horror flick.
Let he who has no guilt, cast the first stone.
Mind you ……..a good old fashioned stoning, brings us all together.
2 Nov 2009, 11:58 am
#138 cane:
Ja.
Amazing what coke does for your instincts.
2 Nov 2009, 11:59 am
#138 cane: As Robert Zimmerman famously said, Everybody Must Get Stoned.
2 Nov 2009, 12:00 pm
#138 cane:
His eyes aren’t too close together.
They are dead. Lifeless.
No spark.
Nothing there.
2 Nov 2009, 12:01 pm
i don’t blame joost.what else can you do in a rubbish dump like pretoria, but to screw everything moving on two or four legs.
2 Nov 2009, 12:09 pm
#139 Dawn:
#140 katman:
All else aside, this Man was one of the greatest Boks EVER. One of the Top 3 halfbacks ever.
The Coke doesn’t surprise me. Young men with time on their hands, and a bucket full of cash will usually get into some kind of mischief.
But the *** video!
On a personal Note………Welcome back Dawn. I havn’t seen you about for a while. I’m glad we didn’t lose you.
2 Nov 2009, 12:09 pm
John Robbie weren’t far wrong. Joost possibly the ultimate of go forward scrum halves ever. I reckon in my all time team he’d be there way ahead of Fdp.
But then sporting prowess got sweet f’all to do with morality and human conscience.
There’s a great 60′s folk song written by Phil Oches and made famous by Joan Baez would go down well as the moralists compass for all high rolling sporting celebrities, politicians, princes and popes alike. Goes like this. Am sure bro cane would likely appreciate the content.
Show me the prison, show me the jail, show me the prisoner who’s life has gone stale, and I’ll show you young man with so many reasons why, there but for fortune, go you or I.
Show me the alley, show me the drain, show me the hobo who sleeps out in the rain, and I’ll show you young man with so many reasons why, there but for fortune go you or I.
Show me the whisky stains on the floor, show me the drunkard as he stumbles through the door, and I’ll show you young man with so many reasons why, there but for fortune go you or I.
Show me the country where the bombs had to fall, show me the ruins of those buildings once so tall, yes n I’ll show you young man with so many reasons why, there but for fortune go you or I. You and I.
2 Nov 2009, 12:17 pm
#144 skopskiet:
Wow, that takes me back. I prefered Judy Collins though, when it came to folk, rather than Joan Baez and her “songs for swinging virgins” voice.
2 Nov 2009, 12:17 pm
#76 justrugby: Buts thats the reality – pray to ****** – but its all just a sham to keep the likes of Tacci interested and swooning over their heroes – the reality is i suspect plenty of these – ‘i thanks god for my good play’ are just as hypocritical and dodge as Joost was.
2 Nov 2009, 12:18 pm
#125 ufo: “The man in camera” or “Video Referee” are my suggestions.
2 Nov 2009, 12:21 pm
#141 Dawn:
That is a better description………..see we need you here to help us illiterates express ourselves.
If Joost was a Rock Star he would be……….Nick Cave.
If Joost was a Movie Star he would be……Lee Van Cleef.
If Joost was a Politician………**** Cheney.
If Joost was an Artist…….he would be a sick *******.
But Joost was a Rugby player………….and a fookin great one.
2 Nov 2009, 12:23 pm
#148 cane:
If Joost was a Rock Star he would be……….Nick Cave.
Jooste is ***?
2 Nov 2009, 12:24 pm
#148 cane: Joost was a good rugby player – but in light of the force thet Fourie Du Preez has become – Joost is a pale shade of good compared to a true great.
2 Nov 2009, 12:24 pm
#149 David: Nick Cave isn’t ***.
2 Nov 2009, 12:24 pm
#103 skopskiet:
thats too weak, there are many that control their hormones.
ppl’s trust is at stake, and depending on what sort of person you dealing with, broken trust is more painful than anything else. the cheating husband, dont have anyone else to answer to but himself, i understand it, but you cop the blame. not the hormones fault, but your own.
2 Nov 2009, 12:24 pm
Just ask PJ Harvey.
2 Nov 2009, 12:26 pm
na David Joan Baez the queen of folk and traditional song from Spanish to English folk songs. She had or still has a voice of an angel. Loved Bob Dylan more than he knew what to do with, she actually put him on the map. Judy Collins, Joni Mitchell, Buffy Saint Marie, all great, but none in Joan’s class for me. Greatest tho was an unknown black ghetto singer by name of Odetta she power punched her soul full voice through the tin shanty walls and onto the Carnegie Hall stage.
2 Nov 2009, 12:27 pm
#146 Ig:
Would you like to join me for full house breakfast in Camps Bay?
2 Nov 2009, 12:28 pm
#149 David:
If Joost was a rock Star he would be Celine Dion
If Joost was a movie star he would be….Person4 run over by truck
If Joost was a Politician………W – the stupidity factor is to hard to miss.
If Joost was an Artist…….he would be living back in Danville with Stan.
2 Nov 2009, 12:28 pm
#155 Dawn: No can do – slaving at the behest of a coporate.
2 Nov 2009, 12:32 pm
#154 skopskiet:
Odetta wasn’t that unknown, but I agree a great voice. For me, Baez’ voice was almost too pure for some of the songs she sang compared to Collins and Buffy.
2 Nov 2009, 12:35 pm
ok cab, so its power of conscience and moral conviction over hormones. Of course the power of rational discrimination says follow the moral law, not the instinctual animal driving fetish. That is of course the model of civilization, yet who amongst us is perfectly civilized, not I said the Walrus to the knave.
Not looking for a cop out, just suggesting look within for perfection, it don’t exist in pedestal platitude parading sports personalities.
2 Nov 2009, 12:35 pm
#150 Ig:
Joost shone in the Greatest Era of 3N Halfbacks. Against the Great Justin and Immortal George.
FdeP does not have this kind of benchmark to judge against.
2 Nov 2009, 12:36 pm
#158 David: I can dig that whole era of folk music and what Joan Baez stood for, but she’s just to shrill and trilly for my liking.
2 Nov 2009, 12:38 pm
#159 skopskiet:
i dont see how anyone needs to look within or be a saint to realise that cheating on your most nearest and dearest, esp if they worship you, is wrong and one of the nastiest selfish things one person can do to another.
2 Nov 2009, 12:38 pm
anyway gotta go do some work, and battery getting low. See you around.
2 Nov 2009, 12:40 pm
#157 Ig:
So am I.
But … that wasn’t the question.
Breakfast or not?
2 Nov 2009, 12:40 pm
Judy Collins kom nie naby Joan Baez’s se hakskene nie.
2 Nov 2009, 12:41 pm
their are consquences to our actions, forgetting about the divinity aspect, morality has grown up as guide to ppl’s happiness, they sow the seeds of their own destruction by doing negative actions and have no-one else to blame but themself.
what i cant understand with these okes is why they simply dont come to some sort of arrangement with their wife that they want to pomp others.
2 Nov 2009, 12:41 pm
#160 cane: Thats a matter of opinion….Justin was trash of the highest order – one only needs to look at the stamping on Kellehers hand at the time he was threatening Justin on his jersey for the AB’s….Gregan on the other hand was a gentleman both on and off the field and by far the better of all three. Joost lost all credability when he went back on his contract with Cardiff (i think) – it was a clear indication that his word meant shite.
2 Nov 2009, 12:42 pm
#160 cane: Yep, Piri Weepu and Richard Wigglesworth don’t quite carry the same aura.
2 Nov 2009, 12:42 pm
You young people know nuttin.
2 Nov 2009, 12:43 pm
#160 cane: You would be hard pressed to find a better srummie in the game in the last 20 years than Fourie Du Preez
2 Nov 2009, 12:43 pm
anyone who thinks Joan Baez is shrill aint heard her sing. She done gigs with Mercedes Sosa on live stage and more than held her own. Voice of a lark or nightingale, one in a billion.
So long, out.
You win cab, no cop out for a cheating husband, none whatsoever.
2 Nov 2009, 12:44 pm
#154 skopskiet:
Chestnut brown canary
Ruby throated sparrow
Sing the song don’t be long
Thrill me to the marrow.
Voices of the angels, ring around the moonlight
Asking me, said she’s so free
How can you catch the sparrow?
Lacy, lilting, lyric, losing love, lamenting
Change my life, make it right
Be my lady.
.Suite: Judy Blue Eyes.
By Crosby Stills and Nash.
The Judy is none other the Ms Collins.
2 Nov 2009, 12:44 pm
#168 katman:
Wigglesworth!
I see your point.
2 Nov 2009, 12:44 pm
#160 cane: Mike Phillips gave him a good run for his money.
2 Nov 2009, 12:45 pm
#172 cane:
Ja.
Joan was too classy to sleep with them all.
2 Nov 2009, 12:46 pm
Dawnie ken haar musiek, luister na haar.
2 Nov 2009, 12:46 pm
#168 katman: You playing in the new league?
2 Nov 2009, 12:47 pm
#156 Ig:
I’m beginning to get the picture here Igster.
2 Nov 2009, 12:48 pm
#50 . So is Monica Lewinski still going out with her South African boyfriend, Sakkie de Kok?
2 Nov 2009, 12:49 pm
#173 Dawn: Sounds like one of the Harry Potter clans. It’s almost as bad as the England bowler, Ryan Sidebottom.
I don’t want to even think of the origin of that surname.
2 Nov 2009, 12:49 pm
#179 superba:
lol
2 Nov 2009, 12:50 pm
Joost prefers Judy Boucher.
2 Nov 2009, 12:50 pm
#177 Ig:
Would you like to share Cane’s couch with me?
2 Nov 2009, 12:51 pm
yep cane Suite Judy Blue Eyes well for all I knew it was Ms Mitchell not Ms Collins. After all was her that wrote theme song for Woodstock not ms Collins.
2 Nov 2009, 12:51 pm
#180 katman:
Wigglesworth and Sidebottom.
Attorneys at Large.
2 Nov 2009, 12:52 pm
#184 skopskiet:
Joni Mitchell?
2 Nov 2009, 12:52 pm
#183 Dawn: Sounds like plan – my fiancee might be a little jealous
2 Nov 2009, 12:53 pm
#185 Dawn:
Wigglesworth Sidebottom and Weepu.
2 Nov 2009, 12:56 pm
I can’t believe HM Keo has just rehashed his old “token black player selection” thread.
All he did was change the names from last year.
I ain’t going there.
2 Nov 2009, 12:59 pm
#187 Ig:
OK
This is how you play it.
We share the couch.
Months later, you blame the devil, crystal meth, and write a book.
2 Nov 2009, 12:59 pm
#177 Ig: I don’t think I’m quite there yet. The pick-up games expose me. What day is league?
2 Nov 2009, 13:00 pm
#190 Dawn: Got ya….i will start working on some holey underwear for the tabloids.
2 Nov 2009, 13:01 pm
#191 katman: Tonight – its a whole mix up league – designed to get new folks playing – so all the experienced players are spread out and bunched with newbies – good league to play in to get up to speed – starts tonight.
2 Nov 2009, 13:01 pm
#184 skopskiet:
Joni Mitchell.
Judy Collins.
But by the time we got to Woodstock…….Who new the difference……….
For you Younger readers out there.
Oh……..forget it.
Fook me………… Joni was a beautiful woman.
2 Nov 2009, 13:01 pm
Joos jou D**s
2 Nov 2009, 13:01 pm
Joost and Honibal perhaps best attacking half back pairing ever. You go a long way to beat that. Doubt Fdp and MS come anywhere remotely close.
Divan or Wright and Naas or M. Du Plessis almost there, or Farr Jones and Lynagh, Gregan and Larkham, De Villiers and Visagie, Edwards and John. But Joost and Honibal when they cooked the oppo were scrambling all over the place.
2 Nov 2009, 13:04 pm
#196 skopskiet: You honestly expect me to believe that Joost is better than Fourie ? Sorry Skop – and don’t get me wrong – Joost was a good player but he is miles behind Fourie when it comes to being a scrummie.
And tacking on a flyhalf – doesn’t change that equation.
2 Nov 2009, 13:05 pm
#193 Ig: I’ll be there tonight. Where were you last Monday?
2 Nov 2009, 13:06 pm
#190 Dawn:
Share the Couch by all means.
But don’t keep my family awake into the wee small hours of the morning.!
And you still have to pay for the tent site.
2 Nov 2009, 13:09 pm
#196 skopskiet:
You got that right Skoppie.
2 Nov 2009, 13:09 pm
#198 katman: Had a buddy out from Aus for a couple of days.
2 Nov 2009, 13:13 pm
#197 Ig: Joost is basically a Huisgenoot-friendly Robert Du Preez.
2 Nov 2009, 13:30 pm
Well, I came upon a child of God
He was walking along the road
And I asked him, Joost …..Tell me, where are you going?
This he told me
Said, I’m going down to Yasgur’s Farm,
Gonna join in a rock and roll band.
Got to get back to the land and set my soul free.
We are stardust, we are golden,
We are billion year old carbon,
And we got to get ourselves back to the garden.
By the time we got to Woodstock……………,
We were half a million strong …………,
CSN.
2 Nov 2009, 13:33 pm
#201 Ig:
You know, you white people.
Organise goeters on your own, when we organise stuff, you “can’t make it” cos you are “doing pilates”. Or whatever.
2 Nov 2009, 13:35 pm
#204 Dawn: Pilates?
Of the Calibbean?
2 Nov 2009, 13:38 pm
#205 katman:
Dit ook.
Or you have to trim your bonsai trees or go to the weightwatchers meeting or the anxiety support group meeting or whatever.
ANYTHING not to come to drinks.
2 Nov 2009, 13:44 pm
#206 Dawn: I’ve been out for drinks with cullerts before.
You take your eyes off your lager for 3 seconds and next thing you know it’s Sunday and you’re waking up behind an Athlone bus stop without your credit card, your nokia and your lekker new pumas.
2 Nov 2009, 13:47 pm
#184 skopskiet:
Suite Judy Blue Eyes definitely Judy Collins…
2c…
2 Nov 2009, 13:51 pm
Evenin’ ladies, been a while !
Joostie ? well well well.
Personally I reckon we shouldnt fudge the lines between what players do in their own private lives and their professional lives. They are ‘role models’ only in a sporting context as far as Im concerned, otherwise theyre just flesh’n'blood like you and me.
Also, I make a massive distinction between social drugs and performance drugs. I wont think any less of Agassi, for eg, for his dabbling (albeit that meth is a complete home-wrecker) but would have if it became known he was doing roids or EPO etc. Now those guys I dont respect 1 iota. I still think Matt Stevens had the book thrown at him way OTT, altho presumably tests showed he may have been doing it during matches ? I dunno, seemed grossly unfair to me.
Joost ? well, he will always be 1 of the alltime Great no9′s as far as Im concerned, competitive to the core. G.Edwards was faster, FdP has a better kicking game, Marshall was tougher, Sid Going less predictable…..but Joost, well he didnt have many weaknesses.
And the EYEs !
2 Nov 2009, 13:53 pm
#204 Dawn: Sheeesh time for a new battery the current one smells likes it been pissed on alll Monday
farking smilies
2 Nov 2009, 14:05 pm
#209 WakaNathan:
mate I think in the context of the situation the drugs joost were using were performance enhancing….
2 Nov 2009, 14:58 pm
#203 cane:
I see I started something. You also a Ms Collins fan?
2 Nov 2009, 18:03 pm
Neva been Joost biggest fan the man used to make me swear at the tv esp when he was complaining like a ou aunty about the selection of jonghi nokwe for the bokke haha but this is bad nobody deserves this he made a hellse mistake and while its easy for us to judge the ou i think we need to remember that he is a celeb and those okes get tempted/tested so much more than your average joe i would like to think i wouldnt make the same mistakes that he did but i dont know so i cant judge. I just wish he can get over this everything works out for the best for the man and his family.
2 Nov 2009, 18:51 pm
#141 Dawn: thats cos no one is home
2 Nov 2009, 21:20 pm
Welcome Home Waka
Ok yeah Ufo, Suite Judy Blue Eyes definitely Ms Collins, I mean how could Joni be called Judy, just don’t fit.
Yeah Cane those were the days my friend, them were the days when souls roamed free, no more no mas, its all about which stock is rising on the FTSE or Wall Str now, and legal eagles in pin striped suits and bowler hats chewing on fat cigars and each others bank bonds and mortgages.
Its been a long time coming, gonna be a long time gone.
But you know the darkest hour, is always just before the dawn. CSN.
2 Nov 2009, 22:37 pm
#205 katman: LOL!!!
#207 katman: LOL!!!
3 Nov 2009, 00:53 am
#215 skopskiet:
Cheers Skoppie
actually, the longer Im away from ‘home’ the more this feels like home. It only takes a couple of Big Hits entries and a S.Jones article about the Haka to remind me that such thought process is surely madness.
Whats been happenin around here in my absence ?
Hey, those CC Semis were absolute crackers, the Final slightly less so. The good people of NZ dont seem to be turning up the stadia in their droves any more to NPC but, funnily, everyone is watching and talking about them tho. The dimwits at NZRFU seem to have lost touch with what the man on the street thinks, @ssh*les.
3 Nov 2009, 01:55 am
all these pious attitudes on this blog -as if they have never transgressed. Joost is wrong and human – humans make mistakes. Let’s not get on our high horse too quickly
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