yeah bismarck’s fist posturing is also alot of rubbish, bladdy stupid, but the whole tour was ill-tempered and i was glad to see the back of the BIL who seemed liked whinging moaners from day 1.

That all said, the rugby was some of the best of the last few years.
electric atmosphere.

And BOD is amongst the worst of them – they all collectively need to grow a pair.

#5 west: showing that British and Irish habit of twisting facts again already I see? its not teh fact that your journalistst are a bunch of liars, its teh fact that the pblich wholeheartedly believe it and jum p in boots and all.

When you as a Bok coach a stupid question like “who would be in your Bok steam” do you think he should answer “well based on our analysis, Xis better than y, z is beter than a, etc” is acoach not allowed to stand up for his own players anymore? and STILL you only won because you cheated. see my comment above.

Think back to 2007 – we sent what was called the C-team to play Oz and NZ. Why couldnt that happen again? The pillars of the team are tired, there are players that have shown that they have the talent, yet we perserve with players such as Odwa, Adi, Rose and Chilliboy. We could have sent a young, inexperienced team to Europe that would give any team a good run, and as a world class coach with so much talent at his disposal you would expect him to have the balls (and talent) to choose a young team.

The team that faces Leicster is exactly what should have been playing against the French, expect for the 4 players mentioned above.
Mapoe for Odwa, Kuun for Chilli, Pietersen for Rose and Grant for Adi (provided Adi is playing 12, if 13 then Murray), Sykes for Hargreaves.

You cant build for the future if you pick the players that havent proved anything this year, this just makes players being left out dispondent and fuels the fire to leave for Europe where merit is everything the pay is incredible and they are given a fair chance.

SARU, how you keep stuffing up is beyond me… Or am I completely crazy and naive?

I thought some of the other Irish players behaved ok. Kearney played well etc

#3 Bagel: I with you man – the amount of **** and off-the-ball stuff from the B&I Lions was shocking. I wish we were playing England too so we could HAMMER them again like last year!

BOKKE!

Pienaar to cover 9 and 10, not 15. We need another specialist Fullback for the bench.

Geez coming to the right selections is slow with this group. At least now we have a specialist Fullback in the side.

He was effectively taken out of the breakdown last week by the Bulls and he’s going to have to adapt now that he’s a marked man, much like Habana had too.

We need a rock solid defense which Brussouw clearly offers more than Danie. Also Rossouw is quite easy to pick the ball off, and I don’t think giving to French prime counter-attacking oppertunities is advisible. Rossouw can be effective as a ball carrier but that’s hardly enough reason to pick him when we have Bissy, Beast, Kankow and even Bakkies for carriers.

PdV will be making a huge mistake if he doesn’t pick Brussouw, but I believe he will.

Ludicrous Frans has no defence

There is no defence for Frans Ludeke as Bulls coach. He should never have been

appointed in the first place.

Watching the hapless Wikus van Heerden try and encourage his players was a

flashback to the very same Van Heerden when he led the Lions when Ludeke’s

side limped from one embarrassing defeat to another. Poor old Wikus must have

thought those days were long gone.

I am sick and tired of hearing what a good guy Ludeke is. Those who have

interacted with Ludeke know he is a good guy, but that is not the qualification for a

Super rugby coaching job. I have mates who are good guys, but I’d never back

them to coach a Super rugby team.

Bulls team manager Ian Swartz, this website’s best mate during the Bulls good

times of 2007, has tried his utmost to defend the Bulls this season. He has resorted

to the petty in his interaction with Bulls beat writer Ryan Vrede. He has accused us

of getting personal with the team and of our criticism lacking substance.

Ian, it is time you got some perspective. In defending the Bulls head coach you are

making a *** of yourself. Yours is the credibility that is taking a pounding with every

attempt to put gloss on the ugliness of another Bulls disaster. How do you defend a

six try to three thumping against the Chiefs? How do you defend a 32 point

pounding against the rubble Reds? How the bloody hell do you even try and justify

the tournament champions giving up 50 points at Loftus against the Crusaders?

How can a team boasting Springboks Gurthro Steenkamp, Bakkies Botha, Danie

Rossouw, Wikus van Heerden and Pedrie Wannenburg be hammered up front

against a Chiefs pack that has struggled against every team? How can a team with

the luxury of the world’s best scrumhalf in Fourie du Preez appear so devoid of

spirit, of enterprise and of expression, be it on defence or attack?

Bulls Super 14 title-winning coach Heyneke Meyer may have left structures behind,

but structures don’t coach players. Todd Louden, the Australian who transformed

the Bulls back play, is now with the Waratahs. Coaches do make a difference.

Good coaches get quality out of limited teams. Bad coaches can make even the

best players look average. It is the case with Ludeke.

Every time a South African team gets smashed the conservatives complain that

quotas are killing our game. The obvious response to that is how you explain

Ludeke’s appointment in the first place? Heaven forbid if he was actually black!

He won three from 25 matches as coach of the Lions and Cats in Super rugby.

Two of those wins came against SA teams. This year his only two successes came

against SA teams. In successive weeks his Bulls have conceded more than 40

points against two of the weakest teams in the tournament.

The Bulls have been a disgrace in their championship defence. But all I keep on

hearing is what a nice guy Ludeke is. Quite frankly I’d rather hear he was an

******* and look at a league standing where the Bulls are in the top four and

playing the kind of rugby you expect from a champion.

I wrote it in a previous article after the Crusaders embarrassed the Bulls by scoring

50-plus in Pretoria that Ludeke should never have been appointed; let alone that he

has to go. However, when he does get the boot the same clever guys who actually

appointed him ahead of far more qualified coaches should get the sack with him.

We all know that is not going to happen because it is an administrative strength in

South African rugby for the amateurs running the game to revel in the good but

never take responsibility for the bad. Ludeke’s appointment was a case of jobs for

pals.

And it wasn’t one given to him by Meyer either. Meyer had no say in the

appointment of his successor because he feared accusations of bias. He must be

very thankful he did not give the deciding vote to Ludeke.

This talk of the Bulls being a young side is also absolute rubbish. The starting

line-up against the Chiefs included seven World Cup-winning Springboks and

another two Boks in Derick Hougaard and Wannenburg. There are far younger

and more inexperienced sides in this year’s competition.

I pity the players who still have two months left with Ludeke. Even more I feel for

the hapless Bulls supporters.

Posted by keo
22nd march 2008

anyways u guys could go back and forth, at the end of the day the boks are the best and hopefully when we beat the other sides enough they’ll actually believe it too.
bottom line.
thats not ‘arrogant’, (maybe a lil biased) but definitely true!!