Halfpenny joins AB detractors
4 Nov 2009
Wales wing Leigh Halfpenny says New Zealand are no longer a side you place on the pedestal.
Coach Warren Gatland spoke earlier in the week about the All Blacks losing their “aura of invincibility” and it seems his players aren’t afraid to have a dig either. New Zealand relinquished their Tri-Nations crown this year and haven’t won a World Cup since 1987.
‘I think the time where players were in awe of them has gone and it’s definitely about us and not them,’ Halfpenny told The Western Mail. ‘We are quietly confident that it could be a good time to get a win after 50-plus years.’
New Zealand thumped Wales 29-9 in the last match between the two nations thanks to a second-half fightback. Wales led 9-6 at half-time, and Halfpenny said they will take heart from that showing.
‘We have definitely gained belief from last season that they are not invincible. We had them on the ropes until halftime.
‘Every game you play you learn from and, as a squad, we definitely learned from that experience. We have to have the belief this time that we can go out and play for the full 80 minutes and get a result. Anything other than a win will be a disappointment.’
Halfpenny added that his comments should not be construed as a lack of respect for the Blacks.
‘They are a superb team and everyone wants to play them. The haka is pretty special and it was great seeing that up close for the first time last season.’
84 Comments
4 Nov 2009, 10:55 am
56 years since the Dragons last managed a win over NZ.
Keep talking Leigh Halfwit……….you are just what the AB’s need, …………….motivation.
4 Nov 2009, 10:56 am
BUT…the AB’s will still crush your Welsh bravado in a blink of an eye.
4 Nov 2009, 10:58 am
#1 cane:
Tell ‘em straight Cane…
4 Nov 2009, 10:58 am
“Wales wing Leigh Halfpenny says New Zealand are no longer a side you place on the pedestal.”
The more Welsh keep saying that, the stronger impression they themselves keep placing ABs on the pedestal. Otherwise, why keep banging on and on about it?
56 years are really pressing, it seems. It’s ok, 57 years will not look much worse.
4 Nov 2009, 11:00 am
#4 Nils:
True…
4 Nov 2009, 11:02 am
Proverbs 13:3
“He who guards his mouth guards his life. He who opens wide his mouth brings about his own destruction.”
4 Nov 2009, 11:03 am
#6 Kietzphat:
Amen…
4 Nov 2009, 11:08 am
Jy gaan op jou moer kry kleingeld.
4 Nov 2009, 11:10 am
#8 PissAnt:
Very funny… Kleingeld.
4 Nov 2009, 11:11 am
#1 cane: lol you sound upset 1/2p thinks you’re **** cane
4 Nov 2009, 11:13 am
All Blacks will win. Have no doubt about it.
Go ABs.
4 Nov 2009, 11:15 am
Wales are going to look really stupid when they lose on Saturday.
4 Nov 2009, 11:16 am
Will the AB’s be doing their hokey cokey in the change room again?
4 Nov 2009, 11:17 am
#12 Dantalian: Rather, they will look as usual. Pretenders.
4 Nov 2009, 11:17 am
#11 Puma:
I hope NZ give it to Wales and let that surly-faced Gatland know that he actually is a twerp.
4 Nov 2009, 11:18 am
What is it about the NH teams and their tendency to shoot their mouths off at the first opportunity? especially the ones in the vicinity of the mud islands.
I can’t wait for the verbals to start when the bokke get their campaign under way.
4 Nov 2009, 11:29 am
Wales are no France or RSA… they’ll get pomped again!
4 Nov 2009, 11:31 am
big mouth riding on the coat tails of sa and france. the ab’s will thump them to prove that even a bad ab team is better than most welsh teams.
4 Nov 2009, 11:35 am
#18 Knersboy: Yeah an injured Lion is far more dangerous than a healthy, aggressive maltese poodle.
4 Nov 2009, 11:40 am
#17 bryce_in_oz:
Not even with the Welsh crowd singing of Land of our Fathers with gusto, not even with all the memories of the Welsh rugby halcyon days of Gareth Edwards and Barry John, not even all the bravado and myth of the tough Welsh coal miners etc will change the fact that the southern hemisphere Tri Nations teams make them pay big time most of the time.
It hurts them, but it’s too bad. Leigh Halfpenny knows it too.
4 Nov 2009, 11:45 am
Anyone here been to a Test Match in Cardiff?
I understand it is a Humbling and Awe-inspiring experience. Almost Spiritual.
4 Nov 2009, 11:47 am
#20 The Jinxta:
Hi Jinx,
New Nik I see.
Welcome back, we missed You.
4 Nov 2009, 11:49 am
#21 cane:
Gatland wants another awe inspiriing humbling experience. He knows its what he needs.
4 Nov 2009, 11:51 am
#19 Jozi: LOL
4 Nov 2009, 11:51 am
#22 cane:
Ah, just a variation of the same theme I guess.
Hope you’re well in NZ and enjoying life.
4 Nov 2009, 11:52 am
#19 Jozi:
Ouch!! Hahahahaha!
4 Nov 2009, 11:56 am
The halfwit better believe his comments will be construed as a lack of respect for the AB’s…I expect to hear all the same old sorry excuses from Gatland and co…..’if only this or if only that..’
4 Nov 2009, 12:01 pm
Anyone know where I can exchange my Keo$ for Zimbabwean$.
4 Nov 2009, 12:21 pm
#21 cane: I’ve been there last year when the Boks won 20 to 15 it is quite a experience, it’s amazing when they sing but to be honest the atmosphere at any of the big SA stadiums are better the majority of the match . It’s only when they sing when you get goose bumps. but the normal people are very nice and friendly, congratulating us Bok supporters after the match.
Oh-ja and it’s very cold in there!!
4 Nov 2009, 12:21 pm
“…….until Half(penny) time………..”
4 Nov 2009, 12:23 pm
#21 cane:
Best Rugby City bar none.
4 Nov 2009, 12:26 pm
#29 JA-JA: Sorry have to add this is from my point of view and I’m not saying it’s **** will definitely go there again if I get a chance, it’s worth it. It’s a good place to hang round in afterwards as well, beautiful town, or the area surrounding the Stadium.
4 Nov 2009, 12:28 pm
Nah, I rate it actually. Good on Gats for trying to raise their own standards and good on the team for taking on the positive attitude. Its sort of like a Welsh Haka but said in funny accents and runs for 1 week instead of 1 min. The pained-faces come later.
Think win, talk win, play to win.
For 80mins.
Not 40mins.
aka Halfpenny Time.
4 Nov 2009, 12:29 pm
No other team runs to the papers before every all black game saying they arnt invincible, lost there aura, all that sort of rubbish, it shows already that the welsh are finished.
look if the french or boks were playing the blacks they would belive in themselves and would not hold the Blacks on a pedestal but they wouldnt have to run to the media to declare there team talk. As one Nz journo put it a few years ago “Wales the village idiots of rugby”
4 Nov 2009, 12:29 pm
no such thing as a bad AB team, the boyos are going to get 50 put past them.
oi yoi.
4 Nov 2009, 12:35 pm
#33 WakaNathan: you rate it because it plays into NZ’s hands, post 27 by Stormer outta hell sums it up perfectly.
#35 cab: not 50 probably 20 or 30
4 Nov 2009, 12:53 pm
#29 JA-JA:
Thank You Jar Jar.
When I win the Lottery I will take in 2 Test Match Venues.
Millennium Stadium, Cardiff.
Kings Park, Durban.
And if budgetary constraints allow…….Newlands and Murrayfield.
4 Nov 2009, 12:57 pm
#35 cab:
Up North we SH Teams cannot put 50 on them.
I’ll be happy with a 1 point win.
This is Wales. They have Pride and there Home Crowd will lift them.
4 Nov 2009, 12:59 pm
#31 WakaNathan:
Thank You Waka.
4 Nov 2009, 13:00 pm
#38 cane:
The welsh can have all the pride they want, this is still a very good AB side.
4 Nov 2009, 13:18 pm
#36 Big Hit:
****. I rate it because theyre trying to believe in themselves. Its a fairly good starting point if you do want to win.
You wouldnt find Boks or France saying that because they are teams on a different level and different rivalries with ABs than Wales. Stormer merely points at that ABs remain strong favourites, but Im sure the odds will still show this as a 2-horse race.
It doesnt ‘play in to NZs hands’. The game still comes down to 15 individuals at the end of the day, not halfquotes from Halfpenny.
#37 cane:
Much as Murrayfield is my spiritual 2nd Home (if I was a British MP, Id consider ‘flipping’ it), its is by no means 1 of the Great Stadium/City Rugby Towns. Cardiff is so magic because its right IN the middle of town, ON the river, and SURROUNDED in bars. No schlep from here to there. And the locals just love and KNOW their footy, not like half-interested Jocks in Edinburgh & corporate Poms at Twickenham. I suppose Cardiff is a bit like Wellington, but just with a better stadium for rugby.
4 Nov 2009, 13:20 pm
I think these comments are born out of a deep seated inferiority complex that the NH teams (bar France) seem to suffer from.
A good healthy respect for the opposition and a strong belief in your own abillities is the best approach imo. We love playing the AB but we never right them off.
4 Nov 2009, 13:20 pm
#40 cab:
True Cab, I think Graham Henry taking over as Forwards Coach has made a big difference.
The AB’s have their Mojo back……….(whatever a mojo is).
4 Nov 2009, 13:21 pm
#37 cane:
The funniest quips come from Newlands. The atmosphere is better than Kings Park (which is also good btw). Newlands is like a carnival and there’s plenty laughs unless the Boks are losing of course.
The Millenium Stadium is a spiritual experience, (although the Bulls boykies would dispute that)
Twickers has that “tradition” thang.
Lansdowne Rd or Croke Park are a well behaved bunch…the least booing from the crowd.
Eden Park has that hardnosed truth feel I imagine. Full blown NZ passion.
The Western Cape is the laugh province of SA. Dark humour at its best. ( Eish…even local AB supporters!!!)Chris Jack met some and was blown away by the craziness of it all.
Cane, may you win the NZ lottery and visit these shores. You will have no problem hanging out here.
4 Nov 2009, 13:28 pm
#44 The Jinxta:
Yes, Newlands is the 1 SA rugby-town I want to experience, looks sensational. As does Kings Park. The concept of braais in situ is condusive to a good time, mirrored in different ways by the old Boot Parties at Eden Park (gone now unfort) and what can be found at HQ on the Middlesex 7s Day (sensational ……atleast it was 10+ yrs ago when I 1st went).
Must visit Ellis Park too, not because its a a good town necessarily but because its Ellis Park which us Kiwis revere above all others, like Everest.
4 Nov 2009, 13:28 pm
#41 WakaNathan: no stormer is saying that all these needless public quotes will be used by the NZ coaches to motivate the team, the mental aspect of test rugby is impt. I agree you wouldn’t find the Boks, France or any of the other teams saying this stuff publicly. I’m going to have a good laugh at Gatland when his team gets beat.
4 Nov 2009, 13:30 pm
#46 Big Hit:
Well I disagree that it will in any way be used as ‘motivation’ either by the Players or the Management. That is already instilled in the Jersey, it goes with the territory.
4 Nov 2009, 13:33 pm
i think gatland’s actually a bit of a fool, he’s said a few things which would make our lot mighty proud, then again its all part of the gamesmanship, perhaps he’s also a maestro?
4 Nov 2009, 13:34 pm
#46 Big Hit: The thing is if they loose they’ll just say they didnt play to their potential… how many times have we heard that before.
4 Nov 2009, 13:35 pm
#48 cab: I was just thinking that if Jake was still coach he might say something like that. Remember the comments about the Wallabie pack.
4 Nov 2009, 13:37 pm
Quietly confident…???
This guy obviously doesn’t understand the term… Could he be any louder…?
What can we say…? With a name like Halfpenny, he doesn’t even get to have his tuppence (2c) worth…!!
I think the ABs are gonna give Wales a warm klap!! (hot smack… for our NZ friends)
4 Nov 2009, 13:37 pm
#48 cab: a top coach no doubt, I just don’t think he understands the media game very well. The old ‘Welsh don’t like the Irish’ went down like a lead balloon in the press, Wales inevitably lost after that one, at home too.
4 Nov 2009, 13:44 pm
When in the history of rugby union has slagging off the All Blacks been a successful tactic?
Thank God Wales wear red because we wouldn’t want any kids or namby pambys psychologically damaged when the All Blacks make the leek eaters bleed!
AB’s will put 50 past them
4 Nov 2009, 13:44 pm
#50 Test:
yeah exactly
#52 Big Hit:
he’s def improved wales, but he’s not short of a quip especially on the tours, and yet all the Bokke have seen mostly is big talk from him.
4 Nov 2009, 13:51 pm
Halfpenny’s got a big mouth for a little boy. I think Sivivatu and co are going to make him eat those words though
4 Nov 2009, 13:51 pm
#48 cab:
never the maestro club is very exclusive. How dare you lump Gatland with PDV 
4 Nov 2009, 13:53 pm
#56 Jozi:
yeah true, no-one can apply the use of metaphor quite like The Greatest.
4 Nov 2009, 13:56 pm
#49 Test:
so, then they have nothing to lose. All upside then.
Gatlands far from a fool. Eddie Jones did the same, Woodward before 2003. Bob Dwyer. Jake White. None of these men are fools.
The fact that Wales are more than likely to lose means nowt. They certainly wont win if they DO say the aura remains, the battle is already lost.
The Boks dont need to say it because that mentality the ABs have is also sewn deep in to the fabric of the Green’n'Gold Jersey. The Lions too.
There is also part-Mourinho is Gatlands psychology – he wants to take most of the media attention himself and there deflect the pressure from the players, to give them the best opportunity to win. Like all great coaches, he remains slightly detached from the team and allows his co-coaches like S.Edwards to be his eyes’n'ears, closer to the players.
Talk big, play big. Win.
4 Nov 2009, 14:21 pm
#55 rich1: well he probably would but he’s banned
4 Nov 2009, 14:43 pm
nope the Boks dont see any AB aura at all, black is to the springbok what red is to the bull, they lift their game to another level becuase they know they can beat them and have done so for most of their history or at least its been evens.
4 Nov 2009, 14:54 pm
NZ have 1 more World Cup than Wales has, or will ever have.
Give those dirty miners a smack, Richie
4 Nov 2009, 15:07 pm
Hope the AB’s beat the **** outa Wales.
4 Nov 2009, 16:36 pm
Wallis gaan hulle gatte sien. Wanneer gaan hulle leer hulle moenie windgat raak voor games teen die suidelike halfrond nie?
Krieketscore….
4 Nov 2009, 18:48 pm
All Blacks to klap Wales hectic, leaving snot marks all over the Millenium Stadium.
4 Nov 2009, 19:37 pm
I think without Dan the man the All Blacks would have won by about 10 points or so but now with the maestro there and Smith back in mid field who is very under rated I think the Blacks will win by at least 20 points.. Although the Blacks are seconds behind us at the moment,they dont play to win,they play to hammer opposition so can see Wales making many excuses come Sunday..
4 Nov 2009, 20:25 pm
The All Blacks will demolish Wales. Such confidence is meaningless vs reality, Halfpenny is palying with Fire. . Everbody has begun to believe the AB’s have crunbled after lossing to an organised Bok side 3 times, for the first time in ages..
4 Nov 2009, 20:44 pm
Leigh Halfpenny may be right, but the NH sides have not yet earned the right to say that. Let’s see if he can still talk after the game.
4 Nov 2009, 20:44 pm
#15 The Jinxta: Have no doubt Jinxie. ABs will beat Wales. ABs by 10. Somthing like that.
4 Nov 2009, 20:48 pm
#37 cane: Cane you win that lottery mate and come and enjoy the best vibe and biggest braai party at a rugby game at Kings Park with me.
4 Nov 2009, 20:54 pm
Halfpenny don’t be dof. Why aggravate the men in black unnecessarily.
4 Nov 2009, 21:25 pm
Heart with Wales….money elsewhere.
5 Nov 2009, 00:56 am
The welsh are lekker groot bek for a team that consistently loses to southern hemisphere teams.
5 Nov 2009, 07:09 am
The problem with the Welsh is errm the Players, they seem to believe in there own Hype (of which they have none)
Everyone likes Welsh rugby, the people are great, stadium is awesome, just over the last few years they walk the talk like they are the number 1 side in the world…
So Wales will get a snotklap…
The biggest mouths on the B&I lions tour this year were the Welsh, and all they did were get smashed backwards in every tackle. nothing will change.
5 Nov 2009, 12:58 pm
gees, reading this thread Wales dont stand a chance in hell… hmmmm last time NZ were such overwhelming favourites they got beaten by a pommy ref
… who is the ref for this game?
although I too think NZ will win, 6 changes can be quite disruptive, especially to a team that has had disruptions all season long… still, I dont believe Wales can win, they may again go into halftime with a lead, but I think that would be more good fortune then good management…
excited for Guildford, deserves his spot and I hope he takes it with both hands…
still dont know why we have Tialumpa playing, the guy is a bookend that lumbers laboriously around the field… put Franks in there and let him gain experience, Tialumpa will not(or shouldnt) be in the cartels plans for 2011, he is hopeless…
5 Nov 2009, 14:03 pm
#74 poppa69: Craig Joubert reffing, Barnesy’s working with the England team
Looking forward to seeing Guildford playing, Tialumpa looks like an angry frog during the haka, well worth watching
5 Nov 2009, 17:25 pm
#75 Big Hit:
Craig Joubert makes Barnesy look like an Old Pro.
Craig Joubert masks should be sold on Halloween.
Craig Joubert is in the next Saw movie.
Craig Joubert eats Children for breakfast.
Craig Joubert made Emperor Palpatine turn to the Dark Side.
5 Nov 2009, 17:39 pm
#76 WakaNathan: he’s not that bad is he? he gave NZ all the scrum calls in the first fixture of the year. I like Joubert as a ref, preferable to Kaplan and Jonker on the test stage, M.Lawrence my most preferred ref. Unfortunately we have the other Lawrence this weekend…
5 Nov 2009, 17:48 pm
the taffs don;t have the firepower to stop the kiwis even if they play kak.
the kiwis will revert to stampkar rugby and the taffs don’t have the pack.
…and that is one of the reasons the Kiwis are hating us.We will not roll over and play dead for them anymore.
Try and imagine how pissed they were when their uber-skilled Chiefs got destroyed at altitude by 50 points.
South Africa not only has always had the players….but now has any number of experienced and competant coaches across the board who know how to prepares their players.
The days of Robbie Deans ooh-ing,aaying-and-grunting-a-lot to 7 Super championships are long gone.
They hate us because they fear us….even the useless arse Taffs are jumping on the bandwagon.
5 Nov 2009, 17:50 pm
and anyway, isn’t that poepol Phillips ahead of Halfpenny in the pecking list?
5 Nov 2009, 17:55 pm
#78 Brigadier Van Zyl: Post of the year Brigadier!
5 Nov 2009, 18:02 pm
#79 Brigadier Van Zyl: Phillips is injured, perhaps until February.
5 Nov 2009, 19:01 pm
#77 Big Hit:
Joubert & Plonker are the Laurel & Hardy of the Ref World, both desperate to out-hopeless each other. It matters not whether Joubert has whistled for or against my team, BH, that misses the point (again). He makes too many random calls, too, often to even make me look past the thin veneer of ‘the firmer I blow the whistle the more I look in control’. Bloody ‘opeless, e is.
Mark Lawrence is the best but even he makes bad calls. Ooh, Mark, 1 min you have enough doubts to ask for the TMO, the next you dont – cmon, surely the fact the TMO was slow surely meant there was ALOT of doubt. Poor decision all round.
Bryce Lawrence is just an annoying little cretin. However he does often get calls right, far more than Laurel & Hardy for starters.
But on the Hopeless Scale, Ive got Joubert nudging out Barnesy with another small blow of the pea back to Plonker.
Id take Chris White and the mad Frenchman any day if I couldnt have M.Lawrence.
Craig Joubert made Hannibal Cannibal cry.
5 Nov 2009, 19:09 pm
#82 WakaNathan: No refs no rugby.
There’s too much bitching about refs imo.
Tough gig.
Need to be really really fit. Need to have the eyes of a hawk. Need to have eyes in teh back of your head. Need to take no **** from mouthy guys. Need to know how the scrum actually works.
I am on their side.
I see little bias, they call it as they see it.
Some “styles” we like, some we don’t.
5 Nov 2009, 19:11 pm
#82 WakaNathan: I have no problem with Lawrence overruling the TMO, as far as I know it was a Japanese TMO so he had no idea whether he was going to respond.
I think you have legitimate complaints about Jonker but Joubert is amongst the best imo. Don’t rate White at all, Barnesy is twice the referee, clearly Paddy O’Brien agrees. The Frenchman would be good if he could speak better English, top ref imo. Bryce Lawrence isn’t the worst, but pretty tempramental.
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