Leicester 22 SA XV 17
Keo.co.za brought you live commentary from the Springboks’ end-of-year tour opener at Welford Road.
80 mins: South Africa run through numerous phases as they move towards the try line, but a strong Leicester defence keeps them at bay. Odwa Ndungane eventually loses the ball forward and Lote Tuqiri dives over the touchline with the ball. The Leicester players celebrate as they played four minutes into extra time. Leicester beat South Africa 22-17!
79 mins: Leicester drive the ball forward through their heavies as try to waste time, but they concede a penalty to the South Africans with a minute to play. Pienaar kicks for touch to give his side a lineout in Leicester’s 22m area.
77 mins: South Africa are awarded a crucial penalty in Leicester’s 22m area. Pienaar bags the three points, which sees the visitors need a converted try to achieve victory. 22-17 to Leicester!
65 mins: After a frustrating period of play, South Africa decide to go for posts when they are awarded a penalty in the last quarter. Pienaar slots the attemot to score their first points of the second stanza. 22-14 to Leicester!
58 mins: Leicester receive their third penalty after South Africa struggle to compete at the scrums. Youngs kicks the home side into a 11-point lead. 22-11 to Leicester!
52 mins: After being dominated at the scrums, the Leicester forwards start to rule the air battle at the lineouts.
45 mins: Heinke van der Merwe comes on for Steenkamp in his prefered loosehead position, but Castrogiovanni still destroys him in the scrum and earns his side a penalty. Leicester score the first points of the second half as Youngs converts the goal attempt. 19-11 to Leicester!
Half-time: Leicester 16 South Africa 11
40 mins: Mauger concedes a penalty on the stroke of half-time for obstructing the South Africans from chasing the ball. Pienaar kicks the three-pointer to leave South Africa trailing by five points at the break. 16-11 to Leicester!
39 mins: Ill discipline costs the visitors as Youngs converts his third penalty. 16-8 to Leicester!
38 mins: South Africa penalised again after being out-scrummed by the Leicester front row. Guthro Steenkamp a major concern as Martin Castrogiovanni has the clear upper hand.
33 mins: Leicester are awarded a penalty on the 50m line after the South African pack were out-scrummed. Youngs bags the three points with an impressive attempt. 13-8 to Leicester!
27 mins: Leicester try! A poor clearance from Pienaar allowed Leicester to run a counter attack. A swift switch from centre Manu Tuilagi put wing Lucas Amorosino through for their first five-pointer. Youngs converted the try to put the home side in the lead. 10-8 to Leicester!
20 mins: Captain Chilliboy Ralepelle leaves the field early after suffering an injury in a scrum. Bandise Maku comes on to replace the skipper.
10 mins: Leicester hit right back as Youngs makes up for his woeful miss earlier in the game by slotting his second attempt. 8-3 to South Africa!
8 mins: South African try! After a good kick and chase from South Africa, the secure possession in Leicester’s 22m area, although it seemed centre Juan de Jongh interfered with the receiver. Fullback Earl Rose then puts a chip through, which is gather by wing Jongi Nokwe, and the Bok flyer dives over for the opening try. 8-0 to South Africa!
5 mins: Ruan Pienaar puts the visitors ahead after South Africa were awarded a penalty in front of the posts. 3-0 to South Africa!
2 mins: South Africa concede an early penalty in a kickable position, but scrumhalf Ben Youngs pushes his attempt wide.
1 min: Deep kickoff from pivot Aaron Mauger, which is received by Ashley Johnson. The No 8 secures possession as he sets up the first phase. Ruan Pienaar then kicks a good clearance back into Leicester’s half.
Leicester – 15 Scott Hamilton, 14 Lucas Amorosino, 13 Andy Forsyth, 12 Manu Tuilagi, 11 Johne Murphy, 10 Aaron Mauger (c), 9 Ben Youngs, 8 Brett Deacon, 7 Ben Pienaar, 6 Geoff Parling, 5 Ben Kay, 4 Calum Green, 3 Martin Castrogiovanni, 2 Mefin Davies,1 Marcos Ayerza.
Subs: 16 George Chuter, 17 Dan Cole, 18 Tom Armes, 19 Dan Hemingway, 20 James Grindal, 21 Greig Tonks, 22 Lote Tuqiri.
South Africa XV – 15 Earl Rose, 14 Odwa Ndungane, 13 Juan de Jongh, 12 Wynand Olivier, 11 Jongi Nokwe, 10 Ruan Pienaar, 9 Heini Adams, 8 Ashley Johnson, 7 Davon Raubenheimer, 6 Dewald Potgieter, 5 Andries Bekker, 4 Danie Rossouw, 3 Jannie du Plessis, 2 Chiliboy Ralepelle (c), 1 Gurthro Steenkamp.
Subs: 16 Bandise Maku, 17 Heinke van der Merwe, 18 Alistair Hargreaves, 19 Jean Deysel, 20 Francois Hougaard, 21 Meyer Bosman, 22 Riaan Viljoen.
November 6th, 2009 at 8:10 pm
SA! dragons
November 6th, 2009 at 8:21 pm
Good luck to our Dirt Trackers Bok team.
November 6th, 2009 at 8:48 pm
Go BOKKE!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 6th, 2009 at 9:00 pm
I think you should rather call them the boks.
November 6th, 2009 at 9:01 pm
chilli boy and Ashley should have a blinder tonight.
November 6th, 2009 at 9:02 pm
Is this k/o time right?
November 6th, 2009 at 9:02 pm
Go bokke!
November 6th, 2009 at 9:06 pm
AT LAST THE TIME HAS COME !
EARL’S TIME HAS COME !
STAND UP ! WHEREVER YOU ARE STAND UP !
JOIN ME AND START CHANTING AS LOUD AS YOU CAN
EARL EARL EARL EARL EARL EARL EARL !
WE ARE ABOUT TO SEE THE BIRTH OF SHEER GENIUS !
EARL THE WHOLE OF SOUTH AFRICA IS WITH YOU !
WE LOVE YOU MORE THAN WE LOVE OUR CHILDREN !
TONIGHT HE IS BIGGER THAN THE BOKKE JERSEY !
November 6th, 2009 at 9:13 pm
He he he “love him more than we love our children”? Now i’ve heard it all.
November 6th, 2009 at 9:14 pm
#6 Big Hit:
Yip, it should be 19h30 in your time. We are 2 ahead.
November 6th, 2009 at 9:15 pm
#9 theOracle: YES WE DO ! WE WOULD GLADLY TRADE OUR OWN YOUNGSTERS FOR A PAIR OF EARLS BOKKE SOCKS ! EAAAAAARRRLLLL !
November 6th, 2009 at 9:16 pm
Lets hope Heinke destroys when he comes on and Earl gets a couple of high balls tonight..
November 6th, 2009 at 9:18 pm
Rugby genius,I hope for ur sake Earl plays well tonight cause u are the only person on this site singing his praises. So lets hope we are all proved wrong tonight but I doubt it’.
November 6th, 2009 at 9:19 pm
#12 Winston: High balls – low balls – it doesn’t matter ! Join the rugby world in saluting and cheering our diamond Earl .
November 6th, 2009 at 9:19 pm
#4 Wezwp: Read on rugby 365 they call them Bok Dirt Tracker team. kinda like we used to call our Dirt Tracker team years back. Nothing wrong with it.
Good luck to our boys in green and gold.
November 6th, 2009 at 9:19 pm
#10 Robzim: ok, thought you were only 1 ahead.
November 6th, 2009 at 9:20 pm
#13 Winston: NO ! Me and MILLIONS of other Earl fanatics around the world !
November 6th, 2009 at 9:23 pm
Look,jokes aside Rugby genius,what is it that u see in Earl that makes u think he is the greatest.. U speak of him like he is greater than Dan Carter,I think he was a very good junior player and can do the odd good thing here and then but he just too many silly things for me. But lets see what he does tonight..
November 6th, 2009 at 9:24 pm
Big Hit,its one hour in our winter and your summer,but two hours in our summer and your winter.. Geography lesson for the day.:-)
November 6th, 2009 at 9:24 pm
#16 Big Hit: not since the uk clocks changed the other day
November 6th, 2009 at 9:25 pm
#18 Winston: he has received a lot of bad press and this has had a negative impact on his game ! Today he shall show the world what a star he is !
November 6th, 2009 at 9:25 pm
nice stadium
November 6th, 2009 at 9:27 pm
#20 Waz: #19 Winston: thanks, explains a lot. link is justin.tv/stusportsextra/popout if anyone needs it
November 6th, 2009 at 9:29 pm
go EARL south africa is fully behind you, take the opportunity with both hands!
November 6th, 2009 at 9:29 pm
At the end of the day the Earl Rose subject has been flogged to death,just like Smit playing at 3,lets see how it goes tonight..
November 6th, 2009 at 9:33 pm
lol what’s the point in playing the national anthem for Tigers?
November 6th, 2009 at 9:34 pm
go bokke!!!!!
November 6th, 2009 at 9:34 pm
eish stuart dickinson
November 6th, 2009 at 9:34 pm
#23 Big Hit: Thanks bud. Loading it up now.
November 6th, 2009 at 9:35 pm
#29 SodaJoe: was hoping you’d be around to get it, good work, hope it lasts the full 80
November 6th, 2009 at 9:37 pm
that was such a k@k kick!!! Even ruan can’t mess up worse than that!
November 6th, 2009 at 9:38 pm
#31 Transformation: go easy he’s just a kid
, bright start from A.Johnson
November 6th, 2009 at 9:39 pm
Olivier boshed
November 6th, 2009 at 9:42 pm
earl rose baby!!!
November 6th, 2009 at 9:42 pm
lol Rose is a genius, perfect up and under, perfect grubber
November 6th, 2009 at 9:43 pm
the pearl !
November 6th, 2009 at 9:43 pm
Great Gary-Owen. Lovely grubber. Nice boys.
November 6th, 2009 at 9:43 pm
Nice kick from Ruan. Good crowd no booing. We should learn from that.
First try. Boks. Nice little kick by Rose there to set that try up.
November 6th, 2009 at 9:43 pm
Rose pulls a Fourie du Preez – learning fast.
November 6th, 2009 at 9:44 pm
EARL IS A RUGBY GOD !
EAT HUMBLE PIES ALL YOU FOOLS WHO INSULTED THE KING !
November 6th, 2009 at 9:45 pm
all the quotas showing how its done Raubenheimer Johnson Adams Rose De Jongh and Nokwe rounding it off. Stick that in your pipe and smoke hard.
November 6th, 2009 at 9:45 pm
welcome to international rugby Heinie – get rid of it quickly.
November 6th, 2009 at 9:46 pm
That was some very good play from Earl Rose.
November 6th, 2009 at 9:49 pm
Funny. People say Earl is no hoper and after one move he is a genius.
Well done, by the way, Mr. Rose, very well done. But no, you ain’t genius.
November 6th, 2009 at 9:53 pm
this tuliagi is a mountain!! Fark
November 6th, 2009 at 9:53 pm
Very impressed with the loose forwards so far. The team seems to have geled somewhat in the short time they had available.
November 6th, 2009 at 9:55 pm
Olivier is going to have a long night
November 6th, 2009 at 9:55 pm
Dirt tracker’s doing ok so far tackling well. Johnson and Raubenheimer looking fine.
November 6th, 2009 at 9:56 pm
Jannie is taking shots in the scrum not looking good there
November 6th, 2009 at 9:56 pm
Ralephelle off injured
November 6th, 2009 at 9:57 pm
chili gone already
November 6th, 2009 at 9:57 pm
There goes injury prone Chili. I feel for him really. Always injured.
November 6th, 2009 at 9:58 pm
Chiliboy is a walking injury
Raubenheimer has been anonymous
November 6th, 2009 at 9:59 pm
I reckon Chilli is getting tips from government officials, do as little as possible yet get paid and honored at the highest level
November 6th, 2009 at 10:00 pm
Good tackle Heini
November 6th, 2009 at 10:01 pm
great break Youngs, more Rose genius too
November 6th, 2009 at 10:02 pm
Rose is having a cracker, very technical
November 6th, 2009 at 10:02 pm
Rose is so ridiculous.
Either he’s amazing (seldomly) or he’s abysmal
November 6th, 2009 at 10:02 pm
nice running game so far. Rose done nothing wrong yet showing some touches of class surprisingly.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:03 pm
#54 Waz: WHy are you even here?
November 6th, 2009 at 10:03 pm
10-8 leicester, game on really
November 6th, 2009 at 10:03 pm
Amorisino the Argie scores the try, great work Tuilagi
November 6th, 2009 at 10:03 pm
I am enjoying the fact that alot of the youngsters have been carrying their CC form into this game. Especially Johnson he has been everywhere. I do feel for Chilli I think the whole of SA would like to see what he can do with an extended run
November 6th, 2009 at 10:03 pm
Young Tugilani,chap is playing well
November 6th, 2009 at 10:04 pm
poor bok tackling – desperate kick from Ruaan
November 6th, 2009 at 10:04 pm
ran past odwa like he wasnt even there.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:04 pm
#54 Waz: same can be said of jannie du plessis,the biggest quota,earning big bucks for being ****** useless.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:04 pm
No defence from our side. Run right through our players like they not there.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:05 pm
#66 WP_: Snap. A few more too just like they were not even on the park.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:05 pm
EARL IS THE BEST THING WE HAVE THERE ! EARL IS MAKING THIS MATCH HIS OWN LIKE I PREDICTED !
November 6th, 2009 at 10:06 pm
Guthro getting dominated in the scrums. Hardly surprising. yawn
November 6th, 2009 at 10:07 pm
Jannie Dup is a marshmallow tonight I think Heinke will be a bit nervous that Eastern European dude looks strong
November 6th, 2009 at 10:07 pm
boks are a team never played together before, clear as day, no cohesion, no passion, no play for each other. not pretty to watch and want to turn off the telly, but cant, support the boys in white(green) thru thick and thin.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:07 pm
How full is the stadium??
November 6th, 2009 at 10:08 pm
Tuilagi is the danger man. Knew it before kick off don’t let that giant get a head of steam or its tickets.
Bok’s playing nicely just not putting the last pass in off the break. Few opportunities got away already.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:08 pm
Haha yeah Puma was more than just Odwa, but he was the last one
November 6th, 2009 at 10:08 pm
rugbygenius, are you earls mum?
November 6th, 2009 at 10:09 pm
Leicester scrum monstering
November 6th, 2009 at 10:09 pm
Tigers are missing 12 of their first choice players and winning. ?
November 6th, 2009 at 10:09 pm
Guthro is sooooo weak in the scrums. effing hell!
November 6th, 2009 at 10:10 pm
Gurthro is being introduced to his backside…
November 6th, 2009 at 10:10 pm
13-8
November 6th, 2009 at 10:11 pm
Ouch. It looks, I was way too optimistic (following Aussie B side demolishing Gloucester), predicting +17 for the visitors. This can go either way.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:11 pm
ruan’s tactical kicking is not up to scratch! He is costing us field position!
November 6th, 2009 at 10:11 pm
#67 Valkyrie: I agree wholeheartedly
November 6th, 2009 at 10:11 pm
#79 jockstrap: South Africa are missing probably about the same. So many should have been selected but were not. So stupid not to select on merit should always select the best players.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:12 pm
#81 WPTID
LOL, so true!
November 6th, 2009 at 10:12 pm
#83 Nils:
Even If Leicester are missing 12 players they’re a different beast to Gloucester.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:13 pm
Dickenson blowing inconsistently if we go in like that he blows us. Then lets them go off their feet with disdain.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:13 pm
Potgieter and Raubenheimer has gone missing since the first 10 mins. They are killing us at the beakdowns cause neither of those 2 are there on time
November 6th, 2009 at 10:13 pm
Pienaar cost the try what a terrible kick, ndugane cant tackle as usual, and Rose possible the best player so far – Interesting times. Johnson looks good but out scrum is getting a hiding
November 6th, 2009 at 10:13 pm
Yup Puma. This is just what we feared. You dont pick your next best, you’re lining yourself up to be embarrased.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:14 pm
#83 Nils: Nils this is not our B side. Too many selected that should never ever have even got on the plane. About 8 that should have made that team and not there. Maybe 10. This is SA and we live with the quota thing all the time. Not fair on the ones that have proved themselves in CC should have been rewarded but no we have to select certain players in this country. Shame really on the good players left behind.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:15 pm
Eish, it is not fun seeing a Bok pack getting shunted around like this…
November 6th, 2009 at 10:15 pm
Leicester commit a lot of men to the rucks. We should use this to our advantage!
Dickinson is Springbok kryptonite! What a tosser
November 6th, 2009 at 10:15 pm
Martin Castrogiovanni arguably the best prop in the NH.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:16 pm
Guthro is being murdered. **** threatening to send him off. Might be the best thing.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:16 pm
Its seems that Ashley is just ‘there’ in the contacts… he doesnt seem to be imposing his potential force
November 6th, 2009 at 10:16 pm
#92 WP_: Agre 100%. The ones that should have been selected must be just shaking their heads.
PdV hope he is very proud of himself. Selecting players that should never have got a selection.
Too many missing. Far too many.
Hope they can pick it up a bit but just don’t think they look like they will for now that is.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:16 pm
this raubenheimer dude is nowhere!!!! Is he evn in the game?
November 6th, 2009 at 10:17 pm
JS: Certainly sowing up out lot – wonder if Heinke will come on straight away after the break
November 6th, 2009 at 10:17 pm
16-8
November 6th, 2009 at 10:18 pm
Mauger you idiot
November 6th, 2009 at 10:18 pm
#94 WP Till I Die: This is not a Bok side WTID. Not by a long shot. Most of the 2nd best never got selected. We all know it and that my friend is a damn shame on those players and us the supporters that have to watch this.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:18 pm
WOO-HOO, I’m Irish but COME ON TIGERS!!!
November 6th, 2009 at 10:18 pm
16-11 HT
November 6th, 2009 at 10:18 pm
Front row woes gonna kill us Jannie Pup and Gurthro getting drilled with a little help from Dickenson. The first team not going to fare much better with Smit and who?
Dickenson intent to nail this bok team all the old bias shining through.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:19 pm
#81 WP Till I Die:
re-introduced…
4 penalties given away by du plessis
boks being bullied in contact..
this could be a long evening …
November 6th, 2009 at 10:19 pm
Aw come on, Puma, stop whining. This match is not over yet.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:20 pm
Leicester C are playing quite well.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:20 pm
Puma et al: It might not be the side you like, but its the side selected we now have a chance to see how much heart they have!!!!!
been disappointed with pienaar and the centres havent done much. ndugane has never impressed but I certainly didnt think our scrum get smashed about. Very frustrating
November 6th, 2009 at 10:21 pm
WHERE ARE YOU EARL HATERS ? WHERE ARE YOU ??????????????
EATING HUMBLE PIE !
EARL IS PERFECTION DEFINED !
WE LOVE YOU EARL !
November 6th, 2009 at 10:22 pm
Joe pieterson surely deserves to be in this team at fullback with ruan at scrumhalf and Earl at flyhalf. Potgieter always has been an overrated player in my opinion.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:22 pm
Anybody that still believes that Jannie du P, and Guthro deserve to be there head of WP Nel, and Wian should beshot right away, ditto for Chillipip/Maku!!
Team should have been!!
1. Wian du P
2. Strauss/Liebenberg
3. WP Nel
4. Sykes
5. Bekker
6. Louw
7. Deysel
8. Johnson
9. SarelPretorius
10. Ruan/JL Pottie
11. Nokwe
12. Olivier
13. De Jongh
14. Mapoe
15. Viljoen
Though admittedly Earl hasn’t done anything wrong YET??? It’s bound to happen soon, wether today or tomorow, that’s the problem with Earl… u know it’s gonna happen, you just don’t know when!!
November 6th, 2009 at 10:22 pm
#107 skopskiet: in fairness skop, I don’t see Dickinson driving the Bok scrum back
If Grant10 wants to see what a retreating scrum really looks like, this is it.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:22 pm
The scrums were sad to watch. Where’s WP Nel and Wickus Blaauw
November 6th, 2009 at 10:23 pm
#104 Puma:
Its a bit early for Hari-kari isnt it, Puma ?
November 6th, 2009 at 10:23 pm
#88 jockstrap: Completely different.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:23 pm
SA could be much better, where is that fella Stegman, why is he not the understudy to Brussouw. they are such similar players, and whats with Guthro, how bad is he in the scrum and and and, ahh what the heck, go boks go, i have to support you even if i recon half the team dont deserve to be there. go boks goooooooooooooooooooooooo
November 6th, 2009 at 10:23 pm
#107 skopskiet:
Yip, Jannie Pap got a new friend called Guthrow Pap now that Chilli very Pap has injured himself for the zillionth time.
The best player so far for SA is Ashley Johnson.
The Italian prop is having good fun tonight.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:23 pm
Rugby genius – yes he has done well but its only the first half… I like him but still think he is too much of a liability
If they take out tuilagi or keep him on check we should win this
November 6th, 2009 at 10:23 pm
#112 rugbygenius: it’s ironic but Earl has probably been SA’s best player
November 6th, 2009 at 10:24 pm
So far good games by Bekker, Russouw, Johnson, Adams, Olivier and Rose.
It’s a ptiy that de jongh has not had any chances so far.
Jannie has to seriously sharpen up on his discipline, costing us a lot of points
November 6th, 2009 at 10:24 pm
The Bok scrum, is being taken round the back of the woodsheds
November 6th, 2009 at 10:24 pm
#115 Big Hit:
#116 WP_:
Castro fidel’ed em !
that is scrummaging, boys and girls, enjoy the rest of the Lesson.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:24 pm
#116 WP_: sitting somewhere in SA saying ‘I told you so’ most probably
November 6th, 2009 at 10:25 pm
I find it very difficult to say this, but in a way I hope this ‘Bok’ team gets klapped …. just to teach that hopeless Helium Snor that a Springbok squad must NEVER contain players that do not belong there. Guthro showed in the CC he is a has been and so is Jannie duP.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:25 pm
#125 WakaNathan: I actually think it’s the other side, although Castro is getting the credit
November 6th, 2009 at 10:26 pm
Tight five is under to much pressure. You really cant expect our flankers to do their job when the front trio are being scrummed to submission.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:26 pm
bring heinke on immediately!the shark is useless,toothless ****** shark!
November 6th, 2009 at 10:27 pm
The Springbok team should eventually win though.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:27 pm
#121 armchair coach: Why What single thing has our Early done wrong ! Not one !
#122 Big Hit: NOT IRONY ! Sheer brilliance ! And I yes I predicted it ! Me ! hahahahahahaha !
November 6th, 2009 at 10:27 pm
I can’t wait till SA come up against Ireland’s new prop Cian Healy. They won’t know what hit em.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:27 pm
As I said earlier in the week, this has got to be the worst Springbok Team of all time!
They will be very, very lucky to win this game!
November 6th, 2009 at 10:28 pm
DWARSLAT: the dirt tracker games dont matter – and he has been probably our best coach since readmission if you go on results, if you stick to public speaking possibly the worst…..
I will never go against my team no matter what… BOKKE
November 6th, 2009 at 10:28 pm
#93 Puma: ffs, you’re such a hypocritical whiner! Is jannie du plessis the best tighthead in the country? Is riaan viljoen better than joe pietersen? They were selected to play tonight, are they also quota? **** man you’re annoying with your constant moaning! If you differ with the coach’s selections, fine you have every right to, but don’t talk k@k about quotas!
November 6th, 2009 at 10:28 pm
Dwarslat, that “useless Helium Snor” is coach of the year, and one of the most successful this year…
November 6th, 2009 at 10:28 pm
Probably jinxed us now.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:29 pm
Raubenheimer is a kak quota.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:29 pm
Will bring on Heinke for either of the 2 props but rather Jannie as Guthrow is at least making some tackles and not giving away penalties. Potgieter needs to step up now
November 6th, 2009 at 10:29 pm
Boks must still be backed to comer back and take this. Surely. Their superior fitness will grow and wont be questioned on D. Surely.
Leicester C pack looking beefy.
Ive seen this Argie Leicester C winger before and he was horrible. Think they shld ask ques’s of him physically and watch the cracks appear, he looks like a World-beater at the moment.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:30 pm
@133 Jockstrap are you guys not picking the SA man?? Brett Wilkinson???
We will see and I will be there to enjoy the pummeling we give you
November 6th, 2009 at 10:30 pm
I’m not watching the game. However I’m not surprised at the commentary I’m reading. Jannie Dup is not a tighthead’s backside. I was never a TH either but WTF, who the hell is selecting these boys to do a job they are very obviously ill-equipped to perform? Even this dom old hooker can see this thing. More of the same.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:30 pm
this could end up rather embarrassing chaps
November 6th, 2009 at 10:31 pm
#126
haha, yeah Big Hit, hopefully this will teach PdV to know better when picking front rowers.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:31 pm
Puma is ‘n regte moangat soms.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:31 pm
Put Earl in the squad for the french and irish games.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:31 pm
#137 WP Till I Die: Coach of the year is just window dressing …. the real Bokke coached themselves.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:31 pm
Rose looks good
November 6th, 2009 at 10:33 pm
Worrying signs for Boks.Front row not up to scratch.
It is clear to see that there are a number of passengers.
It is a shame that players like Mapoe and Pietersen were
left at home.Raubenheimer has to pull up his socks.There are a number of loosies back home who can count themselves as
unlucky.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:33 pm
Tuilagi key man
November 6th, 2009 at 10:33 pm
DWARSLAT: if thats the case why hasnt that happened before?? It is certainly been the best team we have seen….
November 6th, 2009 at 10:33 pm
De Jongh missing a tackle
November 6th, 2009 at 10:34 pm
#141 WakaNathan: I wouldn’t bet on it. This side would probably not be competitive in the Currie Cup I’m afraid. Let the final scoreline be the ultimate arbiter.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:34 pm
Just at least be happy the hookers found their jumpers.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:34 pm
Tiger now have a problem. Who do they play at 12 next week ?
November 6th, 2009 at 10:34 pm
Get rid of rubbish Raubenheimer, bring on Deysel!
November 6th, 2009 at 10:34 pm
Quote of the night: He has done more for Nottingham than Robin Hood……
November 6th, 2009 at 10:34 pm
#148 Dwarslat: Idiot
November 6th, 2009 at 10:34 pm
these whining Sa so called supporters should check who’s letting the side down. None of the quotas only the seasoned bok’s like Steenkamp, Du Plessis, Pienaar and Ndungane have been the problem.
Not Johnson, Nokwe, Adams, De Jongh or Rose. Its same old f.up front row woes and that has nothing to do with quotas thats to do with poor selection not playing Nel or Du Preez or Blaauw or Buys.
J. Dup and Steenkamp the problem as in the A team Smit and Beast will be our Achilles heel too.
Tuilagi is their go to man in the backs and their front row is eating ours alive.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:35 pm
Bring on the bench quick.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:35 pm
Bok pack humiliated at scrum time
November 6th, 2009 at 10:36 pm
i might turn the telly off after all.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:37 pm
Earl Rose is Sa’s number one fullback. heinke the white quota getting man handled.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:37 pm
our scrum: destroyed
November 6th, 2009 at 10:37 pm
#142 armchair coach:
Nah we have a young guy from Leinster who’s being keeping CJ Van der Linde out of the starting line up since he came back. CIAN HEALY remember the name he’s going to be a star. Can’t wait for the game.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:37 pm
Give up not going to watch this ****. Who selected this team?
Where is Mapoe, Vermeulen, Alberts, J. Pietersen, WP. Nel. Sykes. Who else must have missed some names.
Always select on merit.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:38 pm
good play Johnson
November 6th, 2009 at 10:38 pm
Heinke getting drukked by the Italian just as bad.
Come Bokke show some grit you gonna do it
November 6th, 2009 at 10:38 pm
The lineout is now fecked !!!
November 6th, 2009 at 10:38 pm
de villiers and muir looking like they ate bad sushi for lunch…
November 6th, 2009 at 10:39 pm
#164 Wezwp: Should have had WP Nel not Heinke he has not played since APRIL. WHO the heck selects like that. Get rid of the stupid selectors. They know nothing.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:39 pm
#160 skopskiet: What about our ‘captain’ Rallepele….? And our ‘3rd best’ hooker in SA – Maku….?
November 6th, 2009 at 10:39 pm
danie ha ha
November 6th, 2009 at 10:40 pm
we get a good drive on and danie has a moment
November 6th, 2009 at 10:40 pm
JS: Played golf with Brett Wilkinson almost burst out laughing when I heard he was a prop 4 years ago, he is incredibly mobile, he used to be a scrumhalf – big loss for SA and nervous if you got better than him
November 6th, 2009 at 10:40 pm
#125 WakaNathan,
Wonderful in the scrums, that man.
Rugby ‘Genius’,
I hope you are aware of the irony in your name. King of knee-jerk would be more fiting.
#136,
Don’t you have better things to do in your life than commenting on anything race-related you don’t like?
It is true that there are quite a few white faces in the squad that should not be there, and vice versa. Same goes for the rest.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:40 pm
Danie Rossouw killing us . No respect for the jersey. He still sour grapes cos he not with matfield and co.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:41 pm
go boks goooooo, play your bleeding hearts out.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:41 pm
if this side loses to a Leicester 2nd XV it answers a lot of questions about our depth and particularly depth in transformation. Pity but true. Still a lot of work to be done in this department afraid. Maybe its game time. Maybe its something else. Who knows?
November 6th, 2009 at 10:41 pm
#148 Dwarslat: you have to do better than that now plonker.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:41 pm
CCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEe OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNn, bokke, play.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:41 pm
#171 gunther: The excuses will come why they left out the 2nd best Bok squad. I could name a 2nd team that would be as good as our first but they are not there. Why do we have to put up with this rubbish of poor selections just because some players have to play WHY? Then we have Muir coaching this side. Where is Gold? Here in SA still. So who has coached the forwards? Muir? It is a joke and so are many of these players. Bugger feel mad about the selections.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:41 pm
more good play from Johnson
November 6th, 2009 at 10:41 pm
Johnson having a cracker…
November 6th, 2009 at 10:42 pm
#184 Big Hit: always a post ahead of me!
November 6th, 2009 at 10:43 pm
Ashley Johnson you beauty. Cant say the same about the rest.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:43 pm
Johnson certainly pick of the forwards
November 6th, 2009 at 10:43 pm
Puma and some others you like little f.ng girls get lost switch the Tv off second grade supporters.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:44 pm
#180 TASSIES: Howzit Tassies. Too many left out that should have been selected.
Vermeulen, Sykes, Alberts, J. Pietersen, Mapoe, WP. Nel many more left out. Not fair on those that played some good rugby and now sitting at home for guys that have not even played S14.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:44 pm
#183 Puma:
mate coach picks the team our job is to get behind them we will never all agree…I am enjoying ashley johnson
November 6th, 2009 at 10:44 pm
Hamilton you twat
November 6th, 2009 at 10:44 pm
another professional foul?
November 6th, 2009 at 10:45 pm
#189 skopskiet: You get lost. This is not our 2nd team and you know it. At least I speak the truth.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:45 pm
Certainly hope yer not incl Ashley Johnson in the ‘quota’ category, this guy is magic.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:45 pm
Ball ripped from Danie rossouw and deysel twice in two minutes.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:46 pm
#189 skopskiet: agree skop, should support your team through thick and thin
November 6th, 2009 at 10:46 pm
#191 gunther: I am behind them but we would have done better with the better players there.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:46 pm
Ball got taken away from Danie R TWICE like candy from a baby…
November 6th, 2009 at 10:47 pm
Danie Roussouw showing why he isnt in the first team, hardly passed the ball when we need him – the balance needs to shift ASAP
November 6th, 2009 at 10:47 pm
#183 Puma: ffs why don’t you just bugger off and go cry in a corner!
November 6th, 2009 at 10:47 pm
do we think the coaches/selectors choose a side prepared to chuck a game? Because, by the sound of it, this is such a side. I mean Leicester is not even at full strength.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:47 pm
ok boks are playing hard now, but no cohesion, go bokke go.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:47 pm
We are being physically outplayed here.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:48 pm
#195 WakaNathan: He is and deserves to be there but a lot should not have been selected above others Waka. It is frustrating to say the least. So many should have been there now sit and twiddle their thumbs at home. Great players too.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:48 pm
why the f@ck doesnt the ball get to the wings.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:48 pm
God i have missed these tour games for so long its brillent.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:49 pm
The ref aint helping.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:49 pm
#204 WP Till I Die: perhaps it has something to do with the inexperience of the side, the lack of cohesion. They look down right under coached.
Perhaps the coaching team of Smit, Matfield and some of the other senior players haven’t had anything to do with this team…
November 6th, 2009 at 10:49 pm
#201 Valkyrie: So you think this is a team selected on merit? We would have creamed this team with the right players there.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:49 pm
#195 WakaNathan: nope. He’s worth his place. No question.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:49 pm
ruan is k@k….
November 6th, 2009 at 10:49 pm
Danie Rossouw thinks he’s a flyhalf. Can’t stop turning the ball over. Rubbish stuff from him…
November 6th, 2009 at 10:50 pm
Some are going to be stiff and sore after this match – never mind the bruised ego’s.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:50 pm
Deysel a beast, Tuqiri on
November 6th, 2009 at 10:50 pm
we needed that miss…. now where isthe brilliance going to come from?? not pienaar…… FFS pienaar
November 6th, 2009 at 10:50 pm
#189 skopskiet: 1st grade supporters. 2nd grade team based on friendships and skin color.
Our best 2nd string would never lose against a team 4th on their log. We are world champions after all.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:51 pm
Tuqiri looking nervous – attack him !
November 6th, 2009 at 10:51 pm
#207 west: would be better if most of the players were picked on merit and looked as if they had actually been coached.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:51 pm
Just remember our definite 2nd team starters are the ones playing k@k. Pienaar has always bn k@k since he played fullback in tri nations. Hes form is gone and wont come back sgain.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:52 pm
#218 WakaNathan: lol he looks like Roko with dreads
November 6th, 2009 at 10:52 pm
we are getting owned. also we never win with “the excellent” Stu Dickinson
November 6th, 2009 at 10:52 pm
MARTIN CASTROGIOVANNI
November 6th, 2009 at 10:52 pm
#205 Puma:
I dont think ’so many’. Definitely Chiliboy and perhaps that new no9. But all the other ones are there/abouts.
Magic Johnson !!!
November 6th, 2009 at 10:52 pm
DESTROYED DESTROYED WHAT A SCRUM
November 6th, 2009 at 10:52 pm
this could be the end of JDP’s Bok career
November 6th, 2009 at 10:52 pm
#218 WakaNathan: he’ll be chumping at the bit, Boks in trouble here
November 6th, 2009 at 10:53 pm
only god and PdV know why Danie Rossouw still plays for SA.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:53 pm
#219, that’s why I knew we had a big chance of losing this, most players in this team (including whites: Jannie Duplessis..) shouldn’t be there. This is a disgrace.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:53 pm
22-11
November 6th, 2009 at 10:53 pm
Yet again, Stuart Dickenson is making sure South Africa will lose!
In the 10 SA tests that he reffed, a top tier team like SA could only win 2 tests against lowly Wales and once against Georgia.
What a farce? Dickenson should be shot on the spot!
November 6th, 2009 at 10:53 pm
#201 Valkyrie: Cant you handle an alternative opinion. For my money, he makes a valid point. Now go and tell me to piss off as well for telling it like it is. When they lose, perhaps you’d like to explain the merits.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:53 pm
#225 west: their pushing before the balls in, should be a bok penalty
November 6th, 2009 at 10:53 pm
leicester c beating sa d
November 6th, 2009 at 10:54 pm
Time for Meer Bosman we need something to happen in the centre
November 6th, 2009 at 10:54 pm
I am the walrus!!!
November 6th, 2009 at 10:54 pm
ha ha thats a bok scrum, skop keep it civil would you.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:54 pm
AAAAAND RUAN PIENAAR KICKS THE BALL OUT ON THE FULL.
What a useless team, Super Quota. Jean Deysel is the only one who has looked good.
I hope Ruan Pienaar never makes the proper Springbok team. Useless filth.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:54 pm
the quotas in the team are Jannie Du Plessis, Gurthro Steenkamp, Heinke not doing much better, Danie Roussouw, Odwa Ndungane, Ruan Pienaar. Getting killed up front thats the issue. Smit going to struggle just as bad if not worse.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:54 pm
#221 Big Hit:
ah BH, I remember so fondly your commentary last year during the ‘Munster C’ match. Your tone seems a little less….how can we say……provocative tonight. But surely Leicester C are an English team and Munster C only an Irish team.
What gives ?
November 6th, 2009 at 10:55 pm
#231 Hier kom groot k..: Nothing to do with how useless your forward pack is????blame the ref i remember you guys blaming honis when you lost 49.0 to Aus LOL
November 6th, 2009 at 10:55 pm
lord ruan is playing like tiger woods on crutches ..
November 6th, 2009 at 10:56 pm
#210 Puma: the coach selects the team and we have to live it but for you to go on like a woman with a wet panty is becoming rather tiresome.post after post you moaning and bitching about the same thing.get a ****** life man!
November 6th, 2009 at 10:56 pm
Wynand is also nothing special.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:56 pm
Please, there are so many quotas in this team I think I’ll get sick. Johnson is doing well.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:56 pm
Valkyrie,
His comment is not unreasonable, shut up.
Why are PDV’s fans always so damn touchy?
November 6th, 2009 at 10:57 pm
why should the springboks stop talking to the ref when he is chesting them? I hate stuart dickinson!
November 6th, 2009 at 10:58 pm
#231 Hier kom groot k..: Or tackled like McHugh?
RSA XV have been ouplayed today, get over it. Or blame the ref.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:58 pm
Pienaar is so scared of missing kicks, from a decent way out he was refusing to kick them, instead he’d take the quick tap. What a pathetic player.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:58 pm
When was the last time a world cup holder lost to a clun team, if my memory serves met right it was Aussie in 1992 lost to swansea and munster on tour
November 6th, 2009 at 10:58 pm
#228 Robzim:
his time has come an gone its embarrassing actually….
November 6th, 2009 at 10:58 pm
We cant send week teams like this and call them the Boks.
Something must be done about S **** the ref it always feels he blows against us. He watched as they pulled Johnsons hair and did nothing that causes bad vibes and was quick to blow up Roussow.
This is a joke, number three bulls hooker not even number one what a waste of time and money for the SA supporters.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:59 pm
Leicester not allowing themselves to be bullied… Hougaard looks the real deal – clever rugby player
November 6th, 2009 at 10:59 pm
Sorry i met a club team to excited
November 6th, 2009 at 10:59 pm
That Italian front row is a real beast. The Bulls should buy him with the money the are saving next season not having Habana!
November 6th, 2009 at 10:59 pm
Mako, Raubenheimer, De Jongh! Names to inspire dread in the worlds great rugby nations!
November 6th, 2009 at 10:59 pm
geez just got back wtf happened?
November 6th, 2009 at 10:59 pm
boks have no COHESION. playing with heart. ah the nerves.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:59 pm
Is Ruan Pienaar the lesser talented Jaco? I think so.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:59 pm
Bokks need to play their game, don’t get sucked into how Leister are playing
November 6th, 2009 at 10:59 pm
#240 WakaNathan: Nah, because the opposition is SA dirttrackers, not NZ’s. That’s why.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:00 pm
poster 255, castro is good but our props are shite at the mo
November 6th, 2009 at 11:00 pm
Who is the future Springbok captain? Is it Chiliboy or Maku? I think both show great skill….. ….
November 6th, 2009 at 11:00 pm
Leicester have constantly gone offsides like that, so annoying!
November 6th, 2009 at 11:00 pm
WTF, these leicester players can’t stop coming from the side, it’s the 5th time in 5 minutes, and it’s stopping the boks from playing, it should be a yellow by now
November 6th, 2009 at 11:01 pm
#249 Kobus Kitty:
He is a good player but has lost all his confidence.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:01 pm
#240 WakaNathan: I don’t think I was provocative that night, perhaps you’re over-sensitive? I did give hurricane some stick about it a couple of days later but he deserved it
November 6th, 2009 at 11:01 pm
It’s been a hard days night and I’ve been working like a dog.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:01 pm
gooooooooooooooooooooo bokke goooooooooooooooooooooooo
green blooooood yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, gooooooooooooo
November 6th, 2009 at 11:01 pm
Pienaar going for posts now… turns down ones infront but takes very hard ones…
November 6th, 2009 at 11:01 pm
#263 Kobus Kitty: Great skill to be kak you mean….?
November 6th, 2009 at 11:02 pm
Sorry to say the Boks are pounded up front,because they
simply dont know how to scrum and the loosies are not supporting the tight five.
Let us face it the Boks are looking lost and this to me is
the worrying part of PDV’s tennure so far that everytime
he has to put a team on the park without the inherited Springbok core he is found wanting.
This is just a repeat of the third test against BIL and
Dickinson is just having a nightmare as referee.He certainly
must be the worst referee to have set foot on a rugby field.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:02 pm
#257 SodaJoe:
They scrummed us to pieces
November 6th, 2009 at 11:02 pm
Hang on a second! This isn’t just any old run-of-the-mill invitational dragged-off-the-streets raap-en-skraap sommer enige ou skaap South African XV.
These are the real-deal Springboks.
And they are being humiliatingly whacked by Leicester.
Sis, man!
It’s a disgrace.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:02 pm
Leicester have been pushing the rules all the way dickinson should have sent someone off by now but one of us will get the yellow…. f@ck I sound like puma
November 6th, 2009 at 11:02 pm
#265 Pirlet BEL: b-but…Stu Dickinson…
November 6th, 2009 at 11:02 pm
stu dicky, where is da yellow card. left it in oz mate.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:03 pm
Who are the de merits in this team Tassies? Name them lets see who shouldn’t be there. Only ones letting the side down are seasoned bok’s not new ones.
Steenkamp
Du Plessis
Roussouw
Ndungane
Pienaar has made some hash ups
None of the new players played badly yet
November 6th, 2009 at 11:03 pm
go bokkies, pleeeeeeeeeeeeeze, pleeeeeeeez
November 6th, 2009 at 11:03 pm
Guys,
Stop the bitching it is as bad as the performance on the pitch that you are crying about. Let’s face facts:
. This experimental Bok team has been together for about a week and a team that would get drilled in the CC
. midweek games are always going to be tough
. not one of the combinations have played together
. STOP Blaming the ref
. The arrogance of the coaching team (collective) of not mixing seniors with these fresh faces is going to get them what they deserve a hiding
. lets stop the **** about white this quota that. It’s pointless and gets u nowhere
Give Leicester boys some credit here
November 6th, 2009 at 11:04 pm
#257 SodaJoe:
its pretty messy and thats just this blog….
November 6th, 2009 at 11:04 pm
I have to confess, I’m not even watching this contest. Simply because it was not a side selected on merit. It shows. The fact that some of the players failing dismally are not the same as those expected to fail, is not the point. The team was selected on criteria not normally associated with winning. So they probably wont.
That is why I’m not bothering to watch.
Take Australia against Gloucester. They were selected on the basis of a need to win the game. And they did. Easily.
The Springbok side selected to compete against Leicester 2nd’s wasn’t.
Anybody prepared to challenge me on that? Please be my guest.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:04 pm
grant10 i hope you can see the potgieter is not ready to deputise heinrich brussow!
November 6th, 2009 at 11:05 pm
#252 robofthecape: A. Strauss from the Cheetahs should have been the hooker on this tour. We all know that but he is not there.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:05 pm
Gonna grind out the minutes now.
How embarrassing losing to a club team.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:05 pm
Stegman should be there. We’re missing a real no6
November 6th, 2009 at 11:06 pm
#239 skopskiet: of course heinke is having a difficult time, he is on the wrong side of the scrum. The locks are also not fronting up in the scrum either.
God this is a kerap game.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:06 pm
#282 TASSIES: Amen. WELL SAID TASSIES. I for one agree with you 100%
November 6th, 2009 at 11:07 pm
Still think Leicester are rubbish? Our loosies are struggling big time.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:07 pm
How much is P Divvy missing the Cheetah-props du Preez and Nel…. Oi vey…!
November 6th, 2009 at 11:08 pm
NEVER IN SOUTH AFRICAN RUGBY HISTORY HAS THERE EVER BEEN A MORE RACIST SELCTION AS THIS TEAM AND TOUR, NEVER IN SA RUGBY HISTORY HAS A COACH BEEN MORE OBVIOUS IN HIS RACISM AS PIETER DE VILLIERS WHAT A DISGRACE TONIGHT IS!!! FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME IN MY LIFE I AM EMBARRASSED TO BE A SPRINGBOK SUPPORTER WHERE IS WP NEL, WIAN DU PREEZ OH SORRY YOU RACIST PIECE OF DOG DIRT PIETER HITLER DE VILLIERS CANT PICK THEM THEY ARE WHITE BUM HOLE WE DESERVE TO LOSE WITH THIS TEAM.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:08 pm
Sh*t happens!!
November 6th, 2009 at 11:08 pm
Oi vey. Rubbish. Getting worse.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:08 pm
#286 Pirlet BEL: YES him too. Why was he not selected? They were going to play our best fetcher here and then got caught out with a injury to the Test side. Brussow was dropped even from our Test side only to be put back in because of a injury there. Stegmann should have played here tonight. No question.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:08 pm
so, what’s the worst Bok side you’ve ever seen?
November 6th, 2009 at 11:08 pm
sharks and bulls players are big ***-ups in this game,no wonder one got shown up in the cc and the other was lucky to win it.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:09 pm
Potgieter shown up as a club-level player tonight…
November 6th, 2009 at 11:09 pm
Boks imploding, not good
November 6th, 2009 at 11:09 pm
Youngs is excellent
November 6th, 2009 at 11:09 pm
The overrated Deysel loses it and gets turned over. Sigh.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:09 pm
#291 bluealligator: Give us all a break with you bullsh*t.
Get a hint and go away.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:10 pm
name the players that shouldn’t be there Tassies come on there’s your challenge. Should have sacked all the die hard dinosaurs and played new ones we would have done better.
D. Roussouw
R. Pienaar
O. Ndungane
G. Steenkamp
J. Du Plessis
Those the players should have been left behind. Who are your merit players that you want in instead.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:11 pm
The Bokke lost to a club
November 6th, 2009 at 11:11 pm
Ashley J – take a bow
November 6th, 2009 at 11:11 pm
take the points
November 6th, 2009 at 11:11 pm
#293 SodaJoe: It is Joe, then expected this with the team that got selected. Not good we have to select our best. Every other country does just that. Not here in SA we never will.
Even in the Test side. JdV and Frans Steyn should still have got selected even if they are playing overseas.
This is embarrassing. I feel angry as a supporter. They let us down by not selecting the best. Our 2nd best would have creamed this team.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:11 pm
#295 AndrewBK: this one but then again the most racist coach in history picked them hey
November 6th, 2009 at 11:11 pm
Ruan if you ever needed to show you can kick under pressure do it now.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:12 pm
Potgieter is trying but not up to this level. Sure its a scratch Bok team, but Leicester have done very well. At least give them some credit. They are a club team but do play in the Heineken (European) Cup – they are not *******…..
November 6th, 2009 at 11:12 pm
#304 panniepeet: Yes he has played very well.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:12 pm
#300 WP_:
Yip, he is just as overrated as some of the so-called quotas.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:12 pm
Has anyone hit the post more than RP?
November 6th, 2009 at 11:13 pm
Maku shouldnt be there either, or Raubenheimer
November 6th, 2009 at 11:13 pm
We dont deserve to win this – the Leicester side is good and have played well. Questions about our front row need to be asked and we need to address this ASAP
as for Blue alligator the biggest let downs have been JDP, Roussouw and Pienaar so not sure where the race bit come from? Oh and ndugane but he is always ****
November 6th, 2009 at 11:13 pm
#282 TASSIES: getting a thumping like this isn’t going to be good for any of the newbies. This is like boys against men.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:13 pm
#278 skopskiet:
hi Skop. As you well know, this is a team sport. Lets start at the front row………and move to flyhalf shall we…..and then we can address the rest. In any man’s book, this is a kak side. Poorly selected and the result is probably no surprised to some. Poor reflection on the coaching/selection. Just my opinion old chap.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:13 pm
#309 Hambafrika:
The problem is that this is there B- team!!
November 6th, 2009 at 11:13 pm
good scrum boks, not over yet
November 6th, 2009 at 11:13 pm
Sheez, am I glad I didn’t make the trip from London to Leicester today… Doesn’t bode well for the support at Wembley when these w*nkers play Saracens
November 6th, 2009 at 11:13 pm
#309 Hambafrika: Yes and they have been playing together much longer than this scratch team that only have trained for 3 days. Still saying that if we took the players that should have got selected we would have won tonight.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:13 pm
Hmmmm so Dickinson has it in for the boks
November 6th, 2009 at 11:13 pm
it might be worth noting that the biggest disappointment was not person everyone thought would suck the most (Earl Rose) but rather the more established players that have let us down big time.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:13 pm
puma you and Tassies like a bunch of cry babies
Anybody think this is a second grade club side think again. Our first team would have been annihilated up front by this front row as bad.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:13 pm
Last Chance Saloon.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:14 pm
#307 bluealligator: Your sh*t is stinking up the place.
Who let this guy in.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:14 pm
#312 SodaJoe:
i think he aims for the posts themselves rather than between them, its unfortunate really…
November 6th, 2009 at 11:14 pm
#317 Robzim: And our C or D team.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:14 pm
who selected this palooka bok team? Arrogance in the extreme!
November 6th, 2009 at 11:15 pm
#316 TASSIES:
Hi Tassies,
Unfortunately I agree with u.
I have no problem with them picking emerging or experimental sides but what p#ssed me off is that Hoskins is trying to sell this as a merit only side.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:15 pm
i was gonna say to the guys before the game started, watch out, i have watched leicester play and they can play, and our team tonight has not played together, some are there on merit, some not, but so be it, Some of you said we gonna walk over Leicester, you probably dont have satelite because they are a good team, the boks are so uncohesive and it shows they are not used to each other. and that brings me to my last point, the A Bok team has issues in the front row. and i think we will be shown up in the scrums. Goooooooooooooooooo bokke goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
November 6th, 2009 at 11:15 pm
#291 bluealligator: Well said Bluealligator. Its as clear as the nose on your face yet everyone is skirting around the blatant bullshit that is this teams selection. Its the beginning of the end.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:15 pm
game over
November 6th, 2009 at 11:15 pm
Will Leicester C choke ?
November 6th, 2009 at 11:15 pm
Yup Robzim. Where’s Duane Vermeulen when you need him?
November 6th, 2009 at 11:15 pm
#317 Robzim: Yes, but still a powerful side. There are lots of players in the international frame. Just because they are not household names in the S Hemisphere does not mean they cant win on any day? They have beaten the Boks playing Bok rugby……
November 6th, 2009 at 11:15 pm
#301 Ezee-23: In a word you racist pig you bugger off PDV makes Hitler look like an Amnesty international spearhead
November 6th, 2009 at 11:16 pm
Good Win Leicester!!!This team is kak. Joe p should be there.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:16 pm
here we go, last chance to steal it back
November 6th, 2009 at 11:16 pm
No depth in SA rugby. NZ are a shoo-in to win the 2011 RWC on home turf. The Yarpies are absolutely bloody useless. Getting horribly reamed by Leicester??? How embarrassing for Piet Helium and his shabby team of woolly-woofters?
November 6th, 2009 at 11:16 pm
#302 skopskiet: Stop talking ****.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:17 pm
#323 skopskiet: Skop this is a good side we are playing. I am frustrated that some of our 2nd best players never got selected. You know there are many that never and if they did we would have won tonight. Why select players ahead of players that really should have been there.
We will lose them to overseas they not going sit and take this. I don’t blame them either.
Where is Vermeulen, Sykes, Alberts. WP. Nel. A. Strauss, J. Pietersen damn there are many more I must have missed out.
I would never pay to see a team not selected on merit. NEVER.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:18 pm
#331 bok2007: You too? Save it for another day. It’s a waste of space at this moment in time.
Go Away!!!
November 6th, 2009 at 11:18 pm
#341 Puma: Mapoe should have been there too.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:19 pm
#325 Ezee-23: You did you piece of rectal offal
November 6th, 2009 at 11:19 pm
intense
November 6th, 2009 at 11:19 pm
swing it dammit!!
November 6th, 2009 at 11:20 pm
#331 bok2007: Yep that is the crux of the matter.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:20 pm
useless. they didn’t even have a run, what the heck.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:20 pm
what a win! Cockerill didn’t even smile haha
November 6th, 2009 at 11:21 pm
What a disgrace
November 6th, 2009 at 11:21 pm
this is the longest phase by the boks ever
November 6th, 2009 at 11:21 pm
#336 bluealligator: now you are getting ****** ridiculous!too much witblits and mampoer china?
November 6th, 2009 at 11:21 pm
So poor. As exciting as the last 3 minutes were we were bereft of a plan and went no where.
Bugger.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:21 pm
Congratulations, Leicester! Well done.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:21 pm
Stop complaining fellas. The Boks will only win against Italy on this tour. Don`t worry, it`s all meaningless in the end. But we will take stick from the potato peelers when we go down at Croke Park. Go have Xmas, switch off the tv and go relax, this tour is an experiment. The NH play their hearts out, good for them. We are the the best team in the world and nobody can change that.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:21 pm
#336 bluealligator: How’d you figure that?
My problem is that your rhetoric is taking up the space of those who are writing updates on the actual game. Some of us aren’t anywhere near a satellite dish and come here for live updates on the game.
So F*ck Off!!! Please….
November 6th, 2009 at 11:22 pm
Are these brit commentators always so pathetic? Trying to make it out like their little club side beat the Tri-nations winning Springbok team? Shows a sign of no hope.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:22 pm
It makes no difference what side was selected – you are still playing for your country and (I would expect) doing your best……………..
November 6th, 2009 at 11:22 pm
He wins the tri nations he is a saviour. He lose to leicester with a c team he is the worst coach in the world and a racist pig.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:22 pm
#333 WakaNathan: Waka mate this is our C or D team. If you were South African you would feel as frustrated as all of us here. Why we have to put up with this is just not good enough for the supporters that come and pay money to see the best.
They left out about 10 of our players that should have been there. Not good enough. I for one wont watch another SA team that is not selected on Merit.
Will rather watch cricket or golf or anything else. Rugby in SA will lose their supporters if we don’t select our best. We going to lose those players that play great rugby and just get overlooked.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:22 pm
YES WE LOST BUT EARL WAS IMMENSE !
I GO TO BE WITH THE BIGGEST SMILE OF MY LIFE
I’M HAPPIER THAN MY WEDDING DAY
HAPPIER THAN THE BIRTH OF MY CHILDRENS
EARL EARL EARL EARL !
November 6th, 2009 at 11:23 pm
QUOTA QUOTA QUOTA QUOTA QUOTA QUOTA QUOTA QUOTA QUOTA QUOTA QUOTA QUOTA QUOTA
I think we’ll call this team Springbok Q.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:23 pm
#306 Puma: It always hurts to lose. Every time. This is no different.
Obviously poor selections cost us this.
Not a Springbok team.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:23 pm
#357 Kobus Kitty: Will Greenwood was a good player, rubbish behind the mike – agreed.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:23 pm
#339 TheTackler: NZ won’t win the World Cup – even if it’s just them and Koekenaap u/13 in the tournament… All Blacks, Proteas and Sharks are the biggest chokers in sport today.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:23 pm
Johnson best of the lot by a country mile
November 6th, 2009 at 11:24 pm
#361 rugbygenius: ag shurrup man. You always “shout” – just have a normal intelligent conversation.
Lose the caps and exclamation marks.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:24 pm
Congratulations Leicester, good scalp.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:25 pm
#302 skopskiet: How about a decent front row to start. The FS CC front row would be a good starting point. Then I’d have a back three (CC back row) which would include Potgieter and Johnson but might include Deysel and/or Vermeulen for a better balance. Heinie at 9 is fine but an ill-comfort Ruan at 10 is a disaster(IMO) and wrecks the huge potential of the two centers selected. I dont have a problem with Ndungane(either of the twins) because they work hard and are genuine rugby players/thinkers allbeit slow. But I do have a problem with Earl rose because I think he is a disruptive force and is certainly no star in the making. One of the most inconsistent players I’ve ever seen. Simply put, he is ****. The head coach has a soft spot for this idiot.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:25 pm
Is Pienaar worthy to play in a womans division?
November 6th, 2009 at 11:25 pm
#287 fish out of water: ****, heinke came on as a loosehead in place of Guthro!!!
Not blaming Heinke, how can you bring a prop straight from injury on tour!!! He hasn’t played since April????
November 6th, 2009 at 11:25 pm
#367 SodaJoe: HOW CAN I STOP SHOUTING WHEN MY BOY EARL PLAYED THE WAY HE DID !
i’M SORRY SIR BUT THIS IS TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO GOOD !
AND ASH DID SO WELL !
November 6th, 2009 at 11:25 pm
#367 SodaJoe:
ditchwater…
November 6th, 2009 at 11:25 pm
frankly i don’t care. the only games that matter are France, Italy and Ireland. lets hope this shocks us out of this “we’re invincible” mindset that we have found ourselves in.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:25 pm
#360 Puma: 100% true.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:26 pm
#357 Kobus Kitty: It will go down in History that Leiceter beat the Boks not our 3rd or 4th team. We should always select our best.
Ag, I give up. Rather watch something else when our team is not selected on merit. Never again. To sit up this late and watch rubbish never again.
Those that were left behind you know you deserved to be there and I feel for you okes.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:26 pm
Its an experiment tour. I dnt mind the lose. Ashley Johnson and Earl rose to be drafted into the senior team.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:26 pm
#361
Settle the eff down! Earl was solid, but anything but immense!
November 6th, 2009 at 11:26 pm
#372 rugbygenius: please.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:26 pm
I`m new to this site but can quickly see that the guy call “Tackler” is an absolute bitter idiot. I would bet money he`s a saffa that emigrated to the UK. You are a sad *** my son. You have no class.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:26 pm
Yes RG he played well….. Stand out was Ashley Johnson so we can maybe leave Roussouw out the 22?? Although he can lock, not seeing too much positives and the way it ended just confirms Ndugane is so shite he couldnt catch swine flu!!!!!
Deysel didnt impress me Pienaar deserves to be in the second team
November 6th, 2009 at 11:26 pm
#374 AndrewBK:
The real Boks are invincible, the things that played today however…. ewww
November 6th, 2009 at 11:27 pm
#373 gunther: aye
November 6th, 2009 at 11:27 pm
#361 rugbygenius: Your childrens must be very proud.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:27 pm
I am watching in England on Sky, they cant stop saying leister beat the World Champs not cool
November 6th, 2009 at 11:28 pm
#373 gunther: How did Earl actually play? I saw a super gary-owen and grubber wher we scored then had to do some work.
(I also thought it was De Jongh though …)
November 6th, 2009 at 11:28 pm
he was f@kn brilliant earl rose. You dont describe his flair as solid.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:29 pm
#385 robofthecape: They are sort of within their rights to. Irritating. Enjoy the papers tomorrow.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:29 pm
#363 SodaJoe: It hurts Joe, Especially when you know if some got selected we probably would have won. It hurts bad. I feel for those players sitting at home watching this wishing they were on that field playing.
Ag, just not ever going to watch another SA team that is not selected on merit. Enough is enough. Feel bad about this. Knew it would happen after seeing who the Tigers had in their team.
This is not building for the WC not at all. Would have been if those other players come along. Pity.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:30 pm
#379 SodaJoe:
#378 WP_: No sir I refuse ! How dare people insult Our Diamond Man Earl ! Everyone was expecting him to mess up and he was SOLID ! Tonight he showed them ! And I was right ! Me ! King of all rugby pundits ! Me and Earl sit on cloud nine tonight happy that we proved the world wrong !
Greatness is ours !
November 6th, 2009 at 11:30 pm
#385 robofthecape: well technically they did…
November 6th, 2009 at 11:30 pm
What’s Pete helium going to say about this? Excuses, excuses, excuses…
November 6th, 2009 at 11:30 pm
sorry Tassies man but the need to get fresh players in is rife and I have no qualms about Johnson Adams Hargreaves De Jongh Hougaard Viljoen even Rose had a good game.
The problem is same as its been since the past 7 to 8 years in the Nh tours. Front row.
The players that were **** today are the players I’ve said get rid of like J. Dup etc and Roussouw.
Pienaar had a poor game and Rose had a blinder. Johnson stood up. So did most the other new guys.
Problem with our set up is we don’t use the backs we try grind it up front with one on one drives . Never going to win like that.
Even Hougaard late in the game should have swung it we may have done some damage instead of this relentless aimless pick and drive nonsense. But that is a Bok malady been ingrained in our rugby since god knows when.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:30 pm
#385 robofthecape: It’s true though. Not Leicester’s fault we picked a political (AND very kak) side to play them.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:30 pm
Rose didnt see much of the ball but was very good when he didlay his hands on it
November 6th, 2009 at 11:30 pm
#386 SodaJoe: Not a single mistake . Played the perfect game at Fullback. No errors ! Just perfections !
November 6th, 2009 at 11:30 pm
Wp_ Everyone knows you a little racist. Francois hougaard should be back up to fdp
November 6th, 2009 at 11:31 pm
#389 Puma: Well I disagree – I think that it does help build for the future. It can’t hurt.
I am getting increasingly worried about the front row. Leaving WP Nel & Wian Du Preez out is looking increasingly foolish. Especially in NH.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:31 pm
#361 rugbygenius: very happy for earl….and for you.*** those earl haters man.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:31 pm
#385 robofthecape: That is what they will say forever. That was not the world champs idiots. That is excatly what makes me so angry about the daft selections.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:31 pm
#395 armchair coach: USELESS FORWARDS ! Cost my Earl showing the World true perfection ! Potgeiter and Russow are villains !
November 6th, 2009 at 11:31 pm
#386 SodaJoe:
earl had one of the best games I have seen him play, he is no 15 though….team should have been earl at 10 joe p at 15 … ruan is a riddle wraped in an enigma stuffed into a basket case…ashley johnson looked very good as well…
November 6th, 2009 at 11:31 pm
#396 rugbygenius: Ok now lose the exclamation marks.
Thanks.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:32 pm
Were there any positives?
November 6th, 2009 at 11:32 pm
#389 Puma: it hurts and it’s blind as heck, but hopefully the shame will demonstrate exactly why it’s not a good idea to do the same thing to the 1st team… this alone is worth 100 losses like this.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:32 pm
Behind a loosing pack our backs had a torrid time.Clearly
this team has major problems in the front row.So it is
unfair to blame Pienaar and co.
The Boks were scrumming far to high and are loosies were standing up instead of throwing their weight behind the
lock and front row.
Tactical kicking left a lot to be desired.The Cheetahs would
have put the Tigers away.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:32 pm
#376 Puma:
I suppose its good for PdV to see who has the goods and who doesn’t, take these games that don’t mean much to try players instead of tests like Jake did often. But players like Chiliboy, Maku, Adams, Rose, the griquas flanker are in the team, questions must be asked if PdV is just reaching… certain requirements of the TOKEN player.
Thoughts on the match: Ashley Johnson is the only token player that impressed, and if he continues with the way he’s playing he should be in the real Springboks. Ruan Pienaar is not fit to tie Earl Rose’s boot laces, and Earl Rose is not fit to clean Morne Steyn’s bathroom. So think about that.
Bekker thinks he’s a wing, get in the ruck you lanky woman.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:32 pm
#399 Valkyrie: Sir I salute you ! Thank you for being man enought to admit that !
November 6th, 2009 at 11:32 pm
#404 Ezee-23: Ashley Johnson
November 6th, 2009 at 11:33 pm
Stuart Dickenson is a disgrace to word rugby. He should be removed from the IRB referees panel. Talk about a blatant cheat
November 6th, 2009 at 11:33 pm
#402 gunther: I rate Ashley Johnson actually very good player, with exceptional hands and not shy of doing some hard work.
Jannie Poep got creamed every time I watched him.
I expected more from Bekker.
Ruan. The Darryl Cullinan of rugby. Breaks your heart.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:33 pm
#395 armchair coach: Roses positional kicking was average and he was caught out of position more than once. Didn’t do much in the backline either,
November 6th, 2009 at 11:34 pm
#410 23player: Stop bitching and moaning – nothing to do with ****-in-son. We were kak. End of.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:34 pm
these ****** sharks and bulls players are useless to say the least.jeez i’m becoming like puma now.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:34 pm
#398 SodaJoe: Joe, If we had Vermeulen, Alberts, WP. Nel, A. Strauss, Sykes, J. Pietersen, Mapoe, Vermaak and even Kockott (Adams is 30 already) and a few others, yes then we were building towards the world cup as those are our future Bok players not some of these players. It was a waste of time really. Then maybe not now we know for sure some must NEVER play at this level again EVER.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:35 pm
#387 Wezwp: Yes, yes yes ! Preach on my brother .
November 6th, 2009 at 11:35 pm
i don’t rate Bekker at all, lets just pull the plug on that project and start grooming someone else i reckon.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:35 pm
#382 Kobus Kitty: How embarrassing the world champion b team losing to b team leicester, that must make you want to vomit aye?
And then at the start of this season you give the ab’s supporters sh*t for losing to france.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:35 pm
You know what? No-one in SA had heard of anyone in the Leicester team. No-one in England had heard of anyone (maybe 1 or 2) in the Bok team. The word ‘underestimation’ also springs to mind. Boks get a lesson (in who is capable of wearing the jersey), Tigers get a scalp. Game is over guys, get a beer or go to bed.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:35 pm
Chiliboy, the noble Springbok captain. He will lead us to 2011 with his 62 minutes of rugby.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:36 pm
Brenti so what you trying to say is potgieter is a overrated twat……along with danie,deysel, and raubenheimer. Theres no excuse for the kak way pienaar kicked.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:36 pm
Once again a Bok team absolutely anhilated in the set scrums….embarressed beyond recognition….
But lets leave it gents….grant 10 is an alarmist and a panic mechanic??
Now the chickens coming home to roost….we are being humiliated come scrum time and the cancer spreads through the team…..
Next week…same ting….but lets leave it …heads buried in the sand….J Smit and Jannie Du Plessis?? FFS …rather lets find the strongest loosehead and tighthead now…this is a fark up of note….never have i seen a bok scrum go backwards as much as in 2009…..
I tell you we will be drilled in 2011 unless we acknowledge the problems….the WC gonna be played in these conditions,,,not Farken Loftus….wake up SA!!!!!
November 6th, 2009 at 11:36 pm
#329 Robzim: Hi Rob. nice to chat again. Yup. This was no Springbok side. It showed. They would’ve probably lost to False Bay. I don’t blame the players. They were chosen and did their best one supposes. The system and the coaches/selectors is where one needs to aim one’s invective. If they want to trial players then all good. But don’t call them Springboks if they have no chance of cutting it. These guys would have taken carrots from a S14 side and that doesn’t merit a Springbok cap. Not in my book. This was a fraud.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:36 pm
#415 Puma: Aye. Wow how bad was Oddjob. Man. Mapoe must be so upset.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:36 pm
#411 SodaJoe: Johnson had a number of strong runs. Technically he was woeful in the set pieces and breakdown.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:36 pm
#411 SodaJoe: Ashley was very good tonight. We need more like him.
Just hope our test Boks are better. Think we will miss JdV and Frans Steyn.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:37 pm
#390
You’re less of a genius and more of a ******. Well done, good for you. As you’re the only person in the world who knows anything about rugby. Now Shut up.
The fact that Earl was decent and you go on like he’s just played the game on his life says little for your standards of fullback play and the quality of Earl as a player.
To be in the Bok squad proper you have to be CONSISTENT! Something Earl is NOT at this stage.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:37 pm
#422 grant10: aye. What can I say.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:37 pm
Ezee: Positives
1. Ashley Johnson had a stormer and is a find for the future
2. Earl Rose is off to a great start which we need as Pienaar was so shocking
3. PDV may well be on the phone calling for back to the front row – it was as obvious as a Lions supporter out of JHB (there arent many they stick out like a sore thumb) that we have a massive weakness there and all the sidews will target us there
November 6th, 2009 at 11:37 pm
#411 SodaJoe:
the whole front row was like a bad dream…. as for ruan that’s the problem with talent at this level its just not enough on its own….you need balls too…
November 6th, 2009 at 11:38 pm
#418 Hitlar:
No, this isn’t a b team. Team q.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:38 pm
#424 SodaJoe: Yes agree, Said to G10 that Mapoe should have got selected ahead of Odwa. Mvovo from the Sharks should have got selected ahead of Odwa. Watch out for him next year. Mvovo should not have been dropped in the CC when Odwa came back. He is going to be awesome.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:39 pm
I dnt recall jannie dup being consistent yet he in the bok squad @Wp
November 6th, 2009 at 11:40 pm
it was time coming Dickenson helped their cause and they a more together professional unit on the day. But our youngsters did ok except inexperience and frenetic option taking killed our chances. I can tell you our first team might have suffered in the front row against this side as bad.
We living under delusions of grandeur thinking we invincible when we are far from it. All round.
And Puma you saying this is our C Or D team you talking ****. This is our 2nd team.
The players should have been blooded are players some us been baying for for long. Its you that want J. Dup and D. Roussouw in your team. Those the players should have been shown the door way back already.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:40 pm
#417 AndrewBK: Now, who cares who you rate or not
November 6th, 2009 at 11:40 pm
one thing this game has proved that potgieter and deysel are not even worthy to clean luke watson’s booths!
November 6th, 2009 at 11:40 pm
#409 AndrewBK: So judging from what I’ve read so far Earl Rose and Ashley Johnson were the only positives.
Wow!
Looks like Earl Rose has gone and proved me wrong.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:40 pm
That was pathetic. Oregan Hoskins that a merit side??? Oh Yeeeesss!! What bullsh!t. Both black and white quotas. What a useless performance. I had a gut feel we would be steamrollered.
I think the real Bok front row would have shat bricks against this Leicester team. We have to wake up and realise that our scrumming is shite with these selections.
Beast, Bismarck and Smitty may get hammered hard in the scrums vs Frogs and Paddys. Don’t want to be negative but we think PDivvy is missing a beat. Big **** is going to come down.
Wian Du Preez, WP Nel and that Lions TH Buys are sorely missed.
Btw…Ruan is a scrumhalf. That’s his heart. Its not flyhalf. Tiger Pienaar is an clumsy flyhalf.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:41 pm
#423 TASSIES: A fraud for sure.
Enjoyed that saying……hehe.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:41 pm
Shocking!!What could Helium possibly have learnt from this?
That Guthro is a has been!!
Chillipip is a walking wounded!!
Jannie dup overrated!!!
Heinke confidence taken a hammeing after this debacle!!
Ruaan is a 9 at best!!
Potgieter too small for international rugby!!
Heini definately not the 2nd best scrumhalf, maybe 5th !!!
Doubt if the Cheetah’s front row would have been pummeled like that!!
a Loose trio of Deysel, Louw/Stegmann, Johnson would have been better served..
Helium has shown his naiveity!!!
November 6th, 2009 at 11:41 pm
#437 Ezee-23: We all make mistakes Sir. Many questioned Earl. This is just the start . By the end of this tour – we shall all know !
November 6th, 2009 at 11:41 pm
Evening Skop, G10 and Puma and everybody else I missed.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:41 pm
#418 Hitlar: that was no world champion b team – there were some b team players but most of that team was developmental.
This should have been an A team not the Springboks.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:42 pm
we were lucky against B Lions….we were humiliated in scrums vs aussies….but listen to big hit…who will tell you scrums not important….kak man…thats the start of the ****….they are fooling us like they fooled us into not playing a fetcher!!!!
A team must scrum!! We cant !! We will win some…but the wheels will come off….Listen to the lessons…..find a front row….or its all over rover!!
November 6th, 2009 at 11:42 pm
Rugby genius dont waste your time with Wp iho no one knows more about rugby.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:42 pm
Well there we have it! Tough to be in that situation, almost no time to prepare, no combinations, different weather and conditions etc.
Chili lasted not even 20 min. Why was Meisiekind then made captain?
Pienaar’s playing at 9 at Sharks again counted against him.
Scrumming nothing but embarrassing, becoming a real problem for Boks. Someone needs to do something. Tight 5 not delivering usually has ripple effect, no different tonight.
You will be forgiven for thinking that Leicester has just won the world cup, but that’s how much it means to them. Boks just could not get it together.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:43 pm
Agree Wez. Jannie Dup shouldnt be there!
November 6th, 2009 at 11:43 pm
#438 The Jinxta: Howzit Jinx, Beast may not even make the tour. On the news tonight he does not have a passport? Or citizenship yet? How can that be when he has played 19 games for the Boks already. They said they might have to pull him out the squad. Would be a shame for him really.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:44 pm
#435 Boerboel: the comments section of this website is for people to post their comments numbnuts
November 6th, 2009 at 11:45 pm
#393 skopskiet: Skoppie, I’m inclined to agree with most of what you say. I just think that the Bok jersey should be respected a little more and the team chosen to represent us should be of a higher standard, against all takers. In the past 100 years, I cannot think of a Bok team which would have succumbed to a Leceister 2nd XV in such a fashion. It’s an insult to the blazer. And us. I have lost respect for the coaches.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:45 pm
#442 Boerboel: Hi BB…
November 6th, 2009 at 11:46 pm
“Springbok” rugby… bwaahahahaha!
Whacked by tiny little Leicester!
November 6th, 2009 at 11:46 pm
#444 grant10: Not just the scrums G10 we were **** almost everywhere and Pienaar must not be back up FH either. Should always select the best to tour. Too many left behind at home. That hurts me how the hell does it feel to the players that never got selected that should have been there?
Well now they think they have beaten the world champions and not the SA 3rd or 4th team.
Will never watch another game with players that are not selected on merit. Not good enough. Especially for the supporters that paid to watch that game.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:47 pm
Be quiet wez. Stop whining
November 6th, 2009 at 11:47 pm
#422 grant10: jannie dup should never come near a bok jersey,what a useless shark plonker and quota.time for smith to retire and go out with dignity.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:47 pm
#448 Puma:
They’d be wise to send Wian Du Preez. If you can’t scrum in the NH you are toast. Boks are in for a huge surprise.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:48 pm
Now everyone can see how superior the french and english league is to the currie cup. Only team that makes us a proud rugby nation is our first choice.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:48 pm
#450 TASSIES: So when is the coach allowed to experiment?
Surely you have to allow him that.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:49 pm
#434 skopskiet: Do you seriously believe that the Springbok B team would not beat Leicester with plenty to spare?
They would.
This is not the Springbok B team (at least not as it would be selected by a coach who can look beyond the colour of a player’s skin).
Simple as that.
It is quite shocking that in 2009 the Bok team is selected along racist lines.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:51 pm
It pains me to admit that Earl Rose was one of about three SA players who did something right.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:51 pm
#452 TheTackler:
No one on this site will understand how much pain you endured this year.
Trinations 2009:
Boks 3 – ABs 0
November 6th, 2009 at 11:51 pm
Ruan Pienaar, Danie Rossouw, Deysel etc Was seriously exposed. These players dont deserve to start a test. The coached knew something we didnt thats why they played this game.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:51 pm
Guthro Steenkamp should too never get close to a Bok jersey ever again!
The overrated, has been is past him best and was introduced to his arse this evening! Eish!
November 6th, 2009 at 11:51 pm
#434 skopskiet: nope Skop, this is not our B team. No way hozey. This was a developmental team allright. Not a Springbok B team. Checks the result old boy. That speaks for itself. But on closer analysis, this was not even a C side when one considers the balance. Where was P Grant for example?
November 6th, 2009 at 11:53 pm
#453 Puma: #455 Valkyrie: Started in the scrums Puma…say what you like….the cancer starts in the scrums!!
I have been crucified by wankers on this site who call me a doos …fark them….no one wants to acknowledge the reality till we get embarressed…well i am farking the moer in and embarressed by this lily livered downright pansie display by this Bok scrum….sucks man!
And the ‘real’ bok front row just as slapgat!…We better wake up and smell the coffee…soon i tell you!..
Ruan is so lame…he has no interest any more….he wants 9….where was J L P tonight…he would have put his body on the line…Where was Mapoe.?
And where the fark was WP nel and Wiaan Du Preez….
No…i am dik the moer in….French will take our scrum down next week….i am even kak scared of the bloody italians….
But mention scrumming and you are a traitor in SA…..
November 6th, 2009 at 11:53 pm
#459 kaksioek: One loss and it’s the end of the world. There were few positives in this game, how about looking at them?
Lets all calm down, it’s not 2011 yet.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:54 pm
#449 AndrewBK: Andrew & Boerie Roll. You are 2 of the better guys here. be cool, you’re pretty similar actually.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:54 pm
You guys must remember how **** the Springbok b team is. They almost lost to fiji and usa and samoa with jake white as coach at the world cup.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:54 pm
pienaar -shocking my gosh-time to get him prosthetic pair of testicles-deysel was great -slowed down ball carried well-forwards should haveben cheetahs front row sykes bekker stegman deysel rosouw -vermaak -d jong -expected more however bcks had no ball -early wasn bad =D
November 6th, 2009 at 11:54 pm
#460 katman: yes yes yes . Its okay sir. We all make mistakes .
November 6th, 2009 at 11:55 pm
#456 The Jinxta: aye.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:55 pm
#456 The Jinxta: Jinx we have to do with who is there. Just like tonight.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:55 pm
We were up against a half southern hemisphere team named Leicester tonight.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:56 pm
#427 WP_: here I agree. Earl would win a prize for inconsistency. One swallow doesn’t make a ……. springs to mind. I’d give him 10 our of 10 for embarrassment most of the time. Beating up women doesn’t help me to love him either.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:56 pm
#468 Wezwp: We have improved since then. We had a good 2nd team but they were not there.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:57 pm
I tell you 1 thing…Earl Rose played a decent game tonight….the only bloody bok with balls…and de Jongh at least tackled…Johnson was good but has to do more at set scrums.!
November 6th, 2009 at 11:58 pm
wicus blaaw, joe p and wp loose trio shouldv been there.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:58 pm
#467 SodaJoe: ya, just a bit cranky from the game, sorry about that BB.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:58 pm
#462 Wezwp:
It all started in the front row. Loosies cannot perform if the scrum goes backwards by a hundred miles an hour. The same goes for the halfbacks etc.
This must be the worst Springbok front row in a very long time. The scary thought is that they will probably give the A team’s front row a good run for their money.
We have better front rowers though. They sit in Bloem and Cape Town while a few are overseas.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:58 pm
#465 grant10: Where were about 10 players that should have been there? Here sitting at home watchin the game on TV. That is why we lost. If we don’t select on merit we will always get creamed.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:58 pm
Unfortunately teams will be increasingly chosen along racial lines. Results will be secondary. And theres not a damn thing any of us rugger lovers (people who play and watch sports for the simple love of it and to momentarily escape things like bullshit and politics and malema) can do about it.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:58 pm
pdv will be happy with this practice game.he will at least feel vindicated with earl’s selection.these games are nice if its just to see who is up to the challenge.jake white used test matches as practice games and i will never forgive the **** for costing me 65euro for that shambles.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:59 pm
#465 grant10: y ut grant this scrum was realy ba tonight -usualy ure having a go at the a team -lol deeeep breath!maybe oz needs to come helps us now
November 6th, 2009 at 11:59 pm
#477
Agreed Wez!
November 6th, 2009 at 11:59 pm
#476 grant10: music to my ears . thank you sir .
November 7th, 2009 at 12:00 am
#465 grant10: I’m packing down with you on this one boet. Front row remains a problem. TH in particular. Where the **** are they? It only I had a 100kg 15 year old to train!!!!!!! We’d make fame and fortune together wearing a green jersey.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:00 am
#478 AndrewBK: I thought Bekker had a very poor game in truth. But he would be in the bunch.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:00 am
Only improvement since then is heinreich and beast.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:01 am
well i am so embarressed by this bloody weak kneed front row .Never have i seen a bok front row reverse in reverse like 2009….i dont give a fark how we won and who we beat…a scrum like we got gonna cost us….forget 2011….this is a disaster….
PDV …go beg CJ and BJ….this is a crisis !!
November 7th, 2009 at 12:01 am
#479 Robzim: aye
November 7th, 2009 at 12:01 am
#465 grant10: Take a deeeeep breath!!
But I agree our scrum was murdered tonight.
The so-called legend Heinke has been shown up. I am sad to say that my prediction the other night was unfortunately true.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:02 am
#462 Wezwp: Deysel was fine. Hope he stays on.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:03 am
#491 Boerboel: Boerboel, how could PdV select Heinke? He has not played since April? Then to top it he has never played TH. Phew!!! the mind boggles. Poor, poor selections for this Dirt Tracker side.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:03 am
#485 rugbygenius:
Hey, your hero is talented, we all know that.
The only problem is that he hardly ever play two good matches in a row.
If he can become more consistent, he might still make it.
For now, I have my doubts, but he was very good tonight.
So lets see what he does next week.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:04 am
earl continued his good form after stirling performances for the lions in their last few currie cup games.based on those performances he deserved to be in the bok squad.keep up the good work earl.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:04 am
anyone remember when Connaught took our reserve Wc team to the wire by a ball hair. Or Nz taken to the wire by Munster. Well this Tigers side would have creamed Connaught.
Our guys played ok apart from our front row. Thats what did us and Dickenson blowing the rucks in their favor all game long.
Those crying that this is a racially devised D team you talking out your hats. The quota players were actually seasoned spring bok players like Ndungane Steenkamp Du Plessis Pienaar Ralepelle and Roussouw. None of the quotas you crying about played poorly at all. Look at your kak stalwarts thats who’s gotta go and next in line is J. Smit. If he comes up against anything like this Italian stallion tonight he sees his *** same as J. Dup or Gurthro saw tonight. Heinke got drilled as bad.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:05 am
#494 Robzim: Thanks for the shout out boss. Yes Earl era has arrived . Next week he will destroy again ,
November 7th, 2009 at 12:05 am
Just hope the absence of jdv and francois steyn wont hurt us to much. They were afterall our first choice inside centers going into the last world cup.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:05 am
#492 Puma: lol deysels by far better than potgieter
after brussow smith spies burger h is the next best-selections ned to be corrected -transformation is a good thing just no to the detriment of south african rugby
November 7th, 2009 at 12:07 am
#496 skopskiet: not a good game at all meyer tought them the secret of the bulls -very similar
November 7th, 2009 at 12:07 am
Big Hoit says we dont need a scrum….Big Hit no fool….he wants us to believe that….some sentimental wallys here want J Smit in the team because he is a good captain….let me say it loud and farken clear….this aint tiddlywinks!!!!
This aint farken chess!!!
Those euro front rows are mean sons of ******* and we are being HUMILIATED!!!!!!!
Wake up PDV , **** AND GARY….2007 is over …the lions tour is over!!
2011 is close….we are playing in kiwiland….we need a scrum doctor and a proper 3 and 1 who can scrum….
Spies …brussow …will be nullified if going backwards….as will fdp and MS….
Catch a wake up…..J Smit off bench…or retire….get BJ and Cj back…get heinke fit …and leave at loosehead…..
November 7th, 2009 at 12:08 am
deysel is just a good vodacom cup player and should really be on dirtbin’s beaches working up a tan.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:08 am
#493 Puma: But he played loosehead tonight as he replaced Guthro.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:09 am
#458 Ezee-23: experiment is one thing. Being down-right stupid is quite another. Tours like this require momentum and confidence. This was never going to contribute towards that. Don’t be surprised if the tour gets off to a bad start and the trend continues. That’s how these things work sometimes. But I digress. This effort was an embarrassment to the Bok jersey.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:09 am
#487 SodaJoe: yes true… i just got a bad feeling about him this year. when he’s come on as a replacement in the tests this year, i feel we lost something out there, like we were noticeably weaker. but hey, this is just what i think….!
November 7th, 2009 at 12:10 am
#496 skopskiet: So, what did you make of the captain’s effort tonight? Give me a break. He certainly got his, as is customary.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:11 am
#499 sharkteeth: Well I wont be sitting up watching this team play their next game. Not me. Rather looking forward to the Cricket now. This was just rubbish not just the scrums everything was rubbish to watch.
Deysel should be kept and put on the bench for the tests. PdV should have selected JdV and F. Steyn too. Going to be very weak at centre with Adi. He is not in good form. Hope that we are better with our Test squad. They are tired too especially the Bulls Boks.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:13 am
its a good thing we got klapped because otherwise this painful blindness will never get exposed.
Needed to draft new players in long ago. We been trading on old has been’s far too long. Bok A team going to get hammered by France up front watch.
Puma name the 10 players that should have been in and take out 10 that went in their place.
Most the slap gat’s tonight were Sharks and Bulls stalwarts. Common who you would have dropped if you were coach last week. Now is easy to talk in hind sight. Name the players you would have taken and those you would have dropped.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:13 am
#503 Boerboel: I know but he was selected to play TH. He was not up to playing LH. You can not expect much from a player that has not played any rugby since April. What fool selects a player that has not played rugby since then? Crazy, crazy. I just shake my head at the selections of this team.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:14 am
well….i saw this coming…earlier today some oke scalling me a doos for saying our kak scrumming gonna come back to bite us…we the big manne…..the champs…who cares if we cant scrum…as long as we win….
Fark me…who is crying now??
Bloody fools wanting to go into games with wallys for props….stupid man….Jannie du plessis??
ag i am so the moer in a i am outta here….
November 7th, 2009 at 12:15 am
Puma you an old f.ng grand mother go watch cricket. Supporters like you we can do without. Go watch skittle sticks please will be a welcome change to be spared your incessant whining
November 7th, 2009 at 12:16 am
#509 Puma: Exactly, he should not have been there.
Anyways, I’m going to sleep, had a long week.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:16 am
#501 grant10: afraid you’re right. We’ve been humming that tune for quite a while now and nobody’s listening. Anyway I’m off to the pit. Cheers guys.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:17 am
#508 skopskiet: fekkin twat. “We been trading on old has been’s far too long”
What the ones who have just won the tri nations? Go put yourself down you jaundiced, one-eyed tosser.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:17 am
#511 skopskiet:
Yeah and **** of you old fuddy, duddy, tiddlywinks, tittytwistter wanker. You are a real sour cnut are you not?
November 7th, 2009 at 12:19 am
Overrated
Rose
johnson
Raubenheimer
De jongh
Pienaar at 10
and Bekker
November 7th, 2009 at 12:19 am
#508 skopskiet: Where was, Vermeulen, Sykes, WP. Nel, Mapoe, F. Juries, A. Strauss, J. Pietersen, P. Grant, Alberts, Mvovo. Plenty should have got selected ahead of a lot of those players Skop. Look it hurts me to see a South African team play like that knowing we have the players at home that could have creamed that team if they got selected. I know I went on and on but want to see our best playing not our 3rd or 4th team.
Now Leicester bragging they have beaten the world champs. They beat our 3rd or 4th team. Heard them all singing LIONS, LIONS. Damn it got me angry. Are they that daft to think they played our best? If it was our first side that is sitting at home they would have got a big hiding and our 2nd side would have done so too.
Select the best I don’t care what colour a player is Skop, just want the best there.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:19 am
#515 Xkreni-WP: Ag nee sies man
November 7th, 2009 at 12:21 am
#508 skopskiet:
Yet the Bulls won the 3N, CC, S14,and the WC under your hero Jake. Oh, lets not forget a Lions scalp as well. Twat
November 7th, 2009 at 12:22 am
nag Boerboel
Jannie Dup shouldn’t been there since 2007
Gurthro Steenkamp off bench
Roussouw should have been put to pasture long ago
Chili is frilly history
Ndungane is second grade. Jakes no 2 right wing
Olivier so so
H. Van der Merwe should be in Joburg and Wp Nel or Buys in Europe. So too W. Du Plessis or Blaauw.
As for Hargreaves, Adams, Johnson, Viljoen, De Jongh, Hougaard they all deserve their place
not the old doos has been’s though.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:23 am
Cheers Tassies, Boerboel and all.
I too am out of here.
Looking forward to the tests that is it, not going to watch the Dirt Trackers again. Only want to see players there playing on merit.
Bring on the cricket. Cant wait. England should be here very soon.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:24 am
bulls and shark players were kuk tonight just like puma and bluealligator!this will be the last bok touring team with so many overrated bull and especially shark players in it.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:24 am
Deysel is no Bok’s arse. I’m sorry but he was poor. Along with Raubenheimer, Maku, Jannie (weak), Guthro (absolute horse ****), Danie wasnt great, Potgeiter made loads of tackles but we were beaten on the ground.
Ashley was superb! P Div better get his head out of his arse on some of these bizarre selections!
November 7th, 2009 at 12:24 am
grant & puma, please you “senior bloggers” you are carrying on like a bunch of whatyoumacallits…so the experimental team that had 3 practise sessions together took on leicester, captained by aaron mauger & played badly. It is what it is, now we know what more we need to work on. Would you have been happier if that was tiaan liebenberg, wian du preez & wp nel being shunted tonight?
My bet is you would still be moaning like you are.you guys say you’ve played sport before, so get over it!
November 7th, 2009 at 12:26 am
#524 Transie
Point is, they wouldnt have.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:27 am
#495 Valkyrie: Bud. This is why it’s hard to take you seriously. I have no issue with you touting Earl Rose. Good for you.
But talk sense, comment objectively.
This post is just rubbish. If you know anything about rugby, or even watched any games you would know this not to be true.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:27 am
#524 Transformation:
lol you and your senior bloggers!
November 7th, 2009 at 12:27 am
French front row gonna be the Boks front row Rubicon…..
They get taken out ….Smitty must do the honarable thing….it is embarressing to see a bok front row humiliated ….personally tonight i was shocked….appalled and disillusioned….what the hell is happening to our scrumming???
Good heavens !! Farken speechless i tell you!
November 7th, 2009 at 12:27 am
#511 skopskiet: The truth hurts hey skop!!
If we selected on merit we would have won. Now that is the truth even if you don’t want to hear it. I know you feel the same in your heart old friend
November 7th, 2009 at 12:28 am
#526 SodaJoe:
ditchwater…
November 7th, 2009 at 12:28 am
#496 skopskiet: If you read the posts the cticism has very little racial element to it, remarkably non-racial. Just criticism of poor players across the color spectrum.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:29 am
#499 sharkteeth: Potgieter looked very limited it has to be said.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:29 am
#524 Transformation: Bok front row been shunted all farken season boet….and this cancer is becoming terminal….nuke it !!Or farken die!!
November 7th, 2009 at 12:31 am
x krenie jou ou doos f’akwit and bok 2007 same goes for you
Watch your heroes watch maar net. You think tonight was bad. Its sharks and Bulls front row that causing all the havoc in this team. Should be a Fs and Stormers outfit and we’d be sitting pretty.
J. Dup Sharks
G. Steenkamp Bulls
C. Ralepelle Bulls
D. Roussouw Bulls
J. Smit Sharks
These the overrated pansy prick’s that can’t scrum. Nobody else.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:31 am
#502 Valkyrie: I rest my case.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:31 am
#521 Puma: take a hike you moaning *****.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:32 am
517 Puma
Amen buddy. So true. Tonight was a disgrace for one reason only. The team was not fully picked on merit. Certain players were there because of the colour of their skin. How disgusting.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:32 am
#529 Puma: Go fk yourself puma… The weaklink was teh caoch who happened to by your tjommie..**** Muir..#528 grant10: Howzit Broer… I have been sitting on the another thread… #524 Transformation: Hows da brada
November 7th, 2009 at 12:33 am
#524 Transformation: Those guys would never have been shunted about Transie. If we took our 2nd best we would have won. Looke we only lost by 5 points our 2nd team would have creamed them. They sat at home watching on tv. Not good.
Now will watch the tests then get ready to watch the cricket. Bring it on England….
Not going to watch the Dirt Trackers again. Wont watch a team that is not selected on merit. Mapoe should have been a cert for this tour many others too.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:33 am
Well Gunther….you another bloody oke that reckons scrums mean buggerall….hope you had a bloody damascus road experience tonight as well…..doubt it though….still believe this is bloody pilates and salsa dancing i suppose!!
November 7th, 2009 at 12:33 am
#511 skopskiet: You can be such an arsehole.
You are welcome to have a go.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:34 am
#517 Puma: you talking about teams that “cream”, the players you say should’ve been there would’ve also had only 3 training sessions together, there’s no guarantee that they would’ve “creamed” anyone, don’t talk **** here puma. Did the sharks with all the quality & the boks you purport to have “cream” free state, that had demas, mapoe, bosman, potgieter in the backline vs jpp, ndungane, jmh, ruan, adi? Did they cream them…get over yourself man, it’s sport, the coach was experimenting with players he feels can play to his game plan & tactics and only had 3 training sessions to get them to learn his way of playing, ****!
November 7th, 2009 at 12:34 am
#540 grant10: Hi Grant, I somehow just knew you would not be too impressed with tonights result!!
November 7th, 2009 at 12:34 am
#538 Langenhoven: Same to you you have such a dirty mouth it never changes. Get a life your 65 pound a hour man…..hahaha.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:34 am
#537 WP_:
At least the Cobra’s won tonight. Brilliant 100 by Herch in 78 odd balls.
Fawk, at least some good news!
November 7th, 2009 at 12:34 am
#537 WP_: You displaying symptoms of sexual inadequacy again… **** Muir was the kant in the team… and if yoiu cannot it see it.. then its because dementia is setting in early
November 7th, 2009 at 12:35 am
#545 Robzim: Yip, That is my team I support so that is good news.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:35 am
#544 Puma: Got a life… obviously a lot better than yours
November 7th, 2009 at 12:36 am
#530 gunther: Oh bud. Now I get it. I am a doos. Ok. Thanks.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:36 am
this thread has descended into chaos
November 7th, 2009 at 12:36 am
#534 skopskiet: 100% with you….it starts in that weak kneed lame arse lily livered wynberg girls u 15 weak sodding front row….then its all a fark up…..
But no…we got the best cappie…how can you be a doos grant 10….?
Because i am not a blind sod….i see we get drilled in scrums and the kak effect it has,,,,but the weak kneed sentimental little wankers cant see the truth until we get whacked by a leicester 3 rd team….
FFS man…when are these wankers gonna open there blind eyes!!
November 7th, 2009 at 12:37 am
#547 Puma:
Hey Puma, the Cobra’s are WP and they beat the Dolphins who are the sharks?
Welcome on board,mate
November 7th, 2009 at 12:38 am
#547 Puma: puma dont let the trailor trash drag you to their level
ignore the racist rubbish
thats all they have done all night , made everything in here race issues
November 7th, 2009 at 12:38 am
#538 Langenhoven: Hi my man….long time no hear?
November 7th, 2009 at 12:38 am
#526 SodaJoe: and it’s extremely hard to take you serious you ****** dimwit.pdv himself said that earl rose probably was responsible for the lions revival in their last few games but what the ***, you ***** don’t in any case take him serious as well.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:38 am
#542 Transformation: They are all better players and would have won. Truth hurting you too Transie? You know they would have. Very bad selections cost us. We all know it only some wont admit it.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:39 am
#550 AndrewBK: No worries..The Almighty is here
November 7th, 2009 at 12:39 am
Puma the truth my boy is what you been too afraid of facing for so long. Now you calling for all those players Vermeulen, Grant, Alberts, Mapoe, Mel, Blaauw, W. Du Preez, Juries, J. Pietersen. Players that I’ve been calling for all along and telling you to get rid of your has been’s like Roussouw Du Plessis etc. Smit going to retire after this tour watch he’s going to get drilled up front.
So now all a sudden you seen the light some of us been screaming in your ear for 2 whole years already. Thats why you talk ****. You never called for Vermeulen Grant Watson Alberts Nel Blaauw Du Preez Van Zyl before now all a sudden these the players you want. So who you going to let go then common who you going to drop?
November 7th, 2009 at 12:39 am
WOULD YOU TWERPS STOP THRWOING ISNULTS ABOUT AND PUT YOUR RUDDY HANDBAGS DOWN…….
November 7th, 2009 at 12:40 am
Yeah Robzim
By all accounts Herschy was back to his very best. Great news for our Cobras! Wonderful stuff. Just need Kemp in some form now.
I just hope the Boks C team game taught Helium something. And that he’s not too arrogant to admit his hideous mistakes in selection.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:40 am
#552 Robzim: I know but support Cobras.
#553 sharks_lover: Thanks Sharky, That Langenhoven has such a dirty foul mouth. Never changes how some can even speak to such trash is hard to imagine.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:40 am
#555 Valkyrie:
Uncalled for. SodaJoe is one of the most balanced bloggers on here, not sure why you are slinging **** at him?
November 7th, 2009 at 12:40 am
AND IF I HAD A SPELL CHECK HERE IT WOULD HELP….. :LOL:
November 7th, 2009 at 12:41 am
#543 carol: no….its great for leicester…and a good wake up call to all the little fools here who call me a doos for saying we are not as good as we think\ we are….just hope wales and poms win as well….a few beers so sorry if my language a bit nuts1
November 7th, 2009 at 12:41 am
#552 Robzim: durban sport teams are going downhill very fast just like their fukked up city
November 7th, 2009 at 12:41 am
#561 Puma:
Out of interest, why on earth do you support the Cobras?
November 7th, 2009 at 12:41 am
#554 grant10: Long time Bro… decided to sit back and relax tonight.. watch some rugby etc.. and let off a bit of steam…
November 7th, 2009 at 12:42 am
#560 WP_:
personally I think its a ruse from the selectors sometimes to get the best out of gibbs you have to poke him with a sharp stick…
November 7th, 2009 at 12:42 am
#556 Puma: Puma, welcome to the madhouse…..
One loss and they loose it……!!!
November 7th, 2009 at 12:42 am
And I’m having trouble identifying the factions involved in this scrap – or is it a free-for-all?
November 7th, 2009 at 12:44 am
No one like a potty mouth!
When you start throwing swearwords around it means you dont have a big enough vocab to express yourself properly!
November 7th, 2009 at 12:44 am
#558 skopskiet: Truth hurting again Skop. Go check my posts when the selected this team. I called for all of those players to have been selected.
I wont watch this Dirt Trackers again. Most are not there on merit. So will give that game a miss. Wont waste my time.
Will watch the Tests and that is it.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:44 am
#552 Robzim: Hi Rob, shall we have a fight now….I will start
“Bob Dylan may have been a poet but he couldn’t sing” !!
November 7th, 2009 at 12:44 am
#559 carol: Its been a while darling… anbd lets face it… you got a smile on your face… Fk the handbags… this is exciting
November 7th, 2009 at 12:45 am
#569 carol: Carol I am angry with the daft selections. Most of those players should not have been selected. We will never get players only selected on merit in this country. It is a damn shame. We are all South African and should be seen that way but it will never be.
How you by the way? Did you enjoy the game?
November 7th, 2009 at 12:45 am
#570 WP Till I Die: Yeah, just go for it…..
November 7th, 2009 at 12:46 am
#567 Langenhoven: cool my man…hope its all good that side,,,,been busy here…..business picking up steadily….thank heavens!
November 7th, 2009 at 12:46 am
#562 WP Till I Die: don’t be a ****** doos now and only look at one side.if he wants to insult people on this blog he will have to accept that **** will come his way and by the way are you his ****** lawyer now!
November 7th, 2009 at 12:46 am
#564 grant10:
Hi Grant,
Your theory on the scrums are holding up well.
To make matters worst, out first Xv’s front row might even be worse
But why the poms???
November 7th, 2009 at 12:47 am
#566 WP Till I Die: Have for a long, long time. My sister and brother do and they live in Fish Hoek. So maybe that is why.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:47 am
I am ashamed to be a South African Supporter tonight. Not because of the loss or anything – I’m actually quite proud of the boys for the most. No, I am ashamed about the reaction of you bunch of hypocritical ignoramusses that come and spew your bias on this blog.
None of those guys picked themselves, and they gave it their all in the face of a week long tirade on this site about how pathetic they are and who else should have been in their place.
Fact is, even the Bok A side would have been clapped tonight, because their scrum is not much better than the B-side, and the truth is, honestly- WE WERE MOERED IN THE SCRUM.
That’s where it all started. And if the scrum is in reverese, your loosies are on their heels and on the back foot. So in the tackle, they end up un derneath the guy being tackled and are out of play. S how dopes your fetcher fetch when he has to tackle under these conditions the whole night. Even Brussow would have been butchered tonight. And WP Nel and Wian Dup are siting at home saying to themselves “thank God I wasn’t on that field tonight!” Because they know what happened.
Fact is, Leicester were clever. They picked a monster pack and proceeded to F@ck us up 6/love, 6/love.
Yes, some okes tried, and everybody is singing Ashley Johnson’s praize, but he was simply running around like a headless chicken like he has been doing the whole year, but lucky for him he was highly visible, so in most of your eyes that equates to being good. Fact is, the okes you are not seeing are the grafters, because in such a game they are the guys pulling off the tackles. I’m not knocking Ashley, because he tried his best, and for that I salute him.
Think guys, has your much faunted Jean Deysel who performs game after game and according to everybopdy id God’s gift to Sa rugby, suddenly turned into one of the powder puff girls? The answer is a clear no. This kind of thing happens in rugby sometimes. I’ve been there and done it- on both sides, dishing it out and receiving it.
Those forwards of Leicester would have run through a reinforced concrete wall tonight. It was in the stars- their moment of greatness. The cosmic table was set for them, and all the right planets aligned. And we were just unfortunate to be on the receiving end tonight. Yes, i certainly can’t explain it, because that very same Bok team on another night would probably put 40 points past them. But life’s a *****.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:47 am
#572 Puma: We get it, Puma. You’re not going to watch the B team. You don’t have to say it a million times FFS. Who are you trying to convince? Yourself, obviously.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:48 am
#573 carol:
Horses are dangerous biters and should be muzzled
November 7th, 2009 at 12:48 am
#564 grant10: It was the scrum mate…lol..and I got to admit, I did think you were a bit anal about the aspect… I take it all back. Tjommie forever!!
November 7th, 2009 at 12:48 am
#578 Valkyrie:
Becalm thee, Chooser of the Slain and Odin’s Companion.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:48 am
hehehe Chill Grantster!
Gunther
Hey mate, haha, yeah you make a great point about scaring Gibbs. And it works everytime!
102 off 76. That’s vintage Gibbs. Beautiful. I just wish I went down to Newlands tonight instead of staying home to watch the drivel served up from the Boks C.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:48 am
scary thing is the bok main manne front row just as slap as these bloody 3 weak kneed belly dancers we had tonight….
Never before have i seen a bok scrum turbo reverse….yes,,,,we have gone back….but fark me this was at a snot spoed!!!
November 7th, 2009 at 12:49 am
#575 Puma: You have been saying this for days, it is not the team you would take.
I believe in equality but you have to have talent too!!
Had to follow the match on RT!! Visitors here!! Did the new ground look OK?
November 7th, 2009 at 12:50 am
#587 grant10: I take it the meal out was spoilt somewhat by the result?
November 7th, 2009 at 12:50 am
#570 WP Till I Die: Free for all mate… its like the fight at the end of the wedding reception
November 7th, 2009 at 12:50 am
#572 Puma:
I think we all know by now you won’t watch the dirt trackers…you’ve said it about twenty times…
November 7th, 2009 at 12:51 am
#588 carol: It looked great.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:51 am
#583 Robzim: You will have to try harder than that!!
November 7th, 2009 at 12:52 am
#579 Robzim: I tell you Rob….i saw this **** coming….i farken knew the wheels would come off …and i tell you again….next week is D Day…if Smit and Beast dont man up….we gotta change….we are living in a fools paradise….every team gonna target us….in fact we are a bit of a joke come scrum time….
Smitty cant fix this at 3….its a nightmare and its happening…and no one got the balls to face up…
November 7th, 2009 at 12:52 am
Jislaaik, but we South African supporters are bad losers.
The internationals reading this blog must be laughing their bleeding heads off.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:52 am
#577 grant10: Good to know its happening mate… BY fking time.. I got some investments there that need to grow.. mainly property based
November 7th, 2009 at 12:52 am
#591 WP Till I Die: You want to hear it again
Ag, they were disappointing to watch WPTID.
Cant wait for the Tests
Then cant wait for the Cricket to start. Looking forward to that too.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:53 am
#538 Langenhoven:hey shaun duke longtime no see!
#533 grant10:all season grant?
#527 gunther:lol, i have to try everything to stop all this moaning man!
#525 WP_: we don’t know that.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:54 am
I also want to start a fight.
I cant wait for Julius to become next Pres of the Republic!
Who’s with me?
November 7th, 2009 at 12:55 am
#594 grant10:
Did you hear about the potential red tape issues with the Beast, travelling on his Zimbabwean passport?
November 7th, 2009 at 12:55 am
#593 carol:
But you are only a girl.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:55 am
#537 WP_:
Which ones let the team down you idiot name them. Which 2nd grade player of color let the team down fool you got rocks in your head same as Puma. The players that let the team down are Jakes glory selections. Steenkamp Du Plessis Roussouw Pienaar Ndungane Ralepelle. All 2007 Wc winners. Not one new player let them down, only old useless ou doos idiots like you n Puma cry about.
And just for Sofa Joe I got no time for cry baby bumkin fools. The exposure was going to happen sooner or later and its got f.all to do with exposing players like Johnson Raubenheimer Adams De Jongh Viljoen Hougaard. The rot is hanging onto dead beat f.up’s like Roussouw Du Plessis Steenkamp Ndungane and Pienaar should have never been dropped from Fh by Sharks or by Pdv, stupid ploy expecting him to get his game right in first outing under a front row back peddling like its in reverse gear all day long.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:56 am
Okay out of here. I must be the only sober one here. All the foul mouth swearing a bit much. Sometimes it always goes past banter here.
Cheers all catch up some other time.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:56 am
#581 catleya: #584 Langenhoven: My mate….i tell you …i know f all about most things….but i am not a blind doos….you go back in scrums it affects everything….but these wankers who call me doos….fark them…tonight a lesson is hopefully learned….you cant scrum you may get lucky…but it will catch up…Leicester 3 rd team boet…thats the reality!!
November 7th, 2009 at 12:57 am
#592 Puma: Oh well you will have to look to the next fixture.
The trouble with the match on 17th at Wembley it is the ground is so huge it will look like the place is empty, can’t imagine there will be a full house for Bok II v Saracens.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:57 am
#581 catleya: YOu make to much sense mate… I am going to cut and paste your comment in my blogg (wall of fame)… I remember your bit on Luke Watson being the best loosie in the world.. Great argument structure… Well done.. You a warrior on the battlefield of ideas.. Long live
November 7th, 2009 at 12:57 am
Cheers Rob, Well done to the Cobras.
Looking forward to the cricket when England come. Should be great.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:57 am
#585 WP Till I Die: sorry bud but your mate just pissed me off there for a while ,i just gave credit to earl rose’s last few performances and the man started to insult me out of the blue that’s why i said look at both sides before making wild judgements.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:58 am
#604 grant10: This is your night mate.. I bow before thee
November 7th, 2009 at 12:58 am
You’d think we lost the World Cup final the way people are going on here.
This was an experimental SA XV coached by **** Muir. Tomorrow the sun will still shine and the sky will still be blue, water will still be wet and women will still have secrets.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:58 am
#589 carol: great meal…a bit too much booze though…LOL…all great….guests were as shocked as i was with the **** Bok performance.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:58 am
#595 WP Till I Die: I am having a good laugh!!! (Being an outsider)
November 7th, 2009 at 12:59 am
#605 carol: It is a great stadium Carol and so many ex-pats saffas living over there but not sure if they will go and watch that game after tonight.
Cheers Carol. Catch up tomorrow.
November 7th, 2009 at 1:00 am
#601 Robzim: “Oh Yeah, who are you calling a girl” ?
(Cummon Rob, you are going to have to try a bit harder here) !! Heheheh
November 7th, 2009 at 1:00 am
#594 grant10:
If they must learn the hard way, so be it.
Rather now then in 2011.
Jannie should stay in hospital and marry a nurse and start a family or something.
It was embarrassing out there.
I though Italians could only sing opera and make pizzas.
November 7th, 2009 at 1:00 am
#610 WP Till I Die:
lol gad you didn’t get that last bit mixed up…
November 7th, 2009 at 1:00 am
#596 Langenhoven: 2010 will be a good year…some football to watch as well…stadium looking real cool
November 7th, 2009 at 1:01 am
#607 Puma:
Cheers Puma, take it easy
November 7th, 2009 at 1:01 am
#616 gunther:
In my case, they’re always wet.
November 7th, 2009 at 1:01 am
#599 WP_: He is going to moer you.. rather find a malnurished 13yo girl to fight with
November 7th, 2009 at 1:01 am
#613 Puma: Look out for me in the crowd at the Wales match!! I will wave at the camera!!
November 7th, 2009 at 1:01 am
#604 grant10: And our 4th team.
Cheers Grant. Bok test side will be better. Most are selected on merit there.
November 7th, 2009 at 1:01 am
Skopskiet.
You’ve clearly been drinking old fast.
I’ll tell you who let the team down. Raubenheimer was terrible and anonymous, Jannie Dup and Guthro were smashed in the scrums, Danie wasnt great, Chili was a yet, Maku wasnt great – his throwing was poor.
November 7th, 2009 at 1:03 am
#598 Transformation: Yes…90% of scrums we under pressure…bloody weak we are man!
#600 WP Till I Die: No…wassup there?
November 7th, 2009 at 1:03 am
#619 WP Till I Die:
cheeky f*cker…
November 7th, 2009 at 1:03 am
#595 WP Till I Die:i’m laughing my head off & i’m a local!!
#556 Puma: what truth are you on about? are you that deluded to think the **** that comes out of your head is the only truth? come on puma i thought you had more sense than that. I asked you why didn’t the sharks “cream” free state in the semis with all their bokke back, you haven’t answered.
Just save face and shut chap, cos you’re being an embarrasment.
Ffs, you can moan…
November 7th, 2009 at 1:03 am
#621 carol: Send some pics to RT. Will be good to see Carol.
Okay out of here now. Sober for me and can see some have had too much to drink tonight.
I am back on my health diet. Only water tonigh….hehe.
Cheers once again Carol.
November 7th, 2009 at 1:04 am
#611 grant10: I nipped to the computer at half time and was amazed to see Tigers in the lead!
This is a blip – someone will tell PDV to read RT and Keo if he needs some advice….
He will get plenty of expert advice here to help him and his cronies with the next selection!!
November 7th, 2009 at 1:05 am
#627 Puma: OK will take my camera…can’t send them by phone tho!
November 7th, 2009 at 1:05 am
#614 carol:
A confused little girl pretending to be a bull but deep inside a stormer?
November 7th, 2009 at 1:05 am
Langhoven who are you talking about? Bring it on!
November 7th, 2009 at 1:06 am
well done leicester – played with a lot of heart.
haven’t bothered to read the 600 odd posts up to here but my observations;
1. quota u19 or u21 players are still quotas at senior level
2. this includes white guys
3. pdv is fuggin around with the bok emblem by playing these quotas
4. boks do not revere their heritage enough
5. we are not as good enough as a nation at rugby as we think we are
6.transformation? does that equate to lower standards?
7. in sa rugby, it is basically a white/coloured man’s game – with a few good african players sprinkled in. no other politically engineered combination will work.
8. did raubenheimer actually play?
9. earl rose was ok in my view.
time for a wake up after destroying the all blacks in 2009. if we are this bad, how bad are the pathetic kiwis?
November 7th, 2009 at 1:06 am
#617 grant10: Fifa chose teh world cup to be in June because its the Kakest time of the year in SA… They want to prove to the world that its best to have a world cup in the NH… You guys better get the heating switched on at full tilt… the Brits are not use to cold.. we live with central heating here… My place is at 22degress every day of the year
November 7th, 2009 at 1:07 am
#626 Transformation: Transie you making a fool of yourself. Grow up and have some manners. Is that the way your parent brought you up?
Then your girlfriend speaks the same and that is a girl. Also foul mouthed just like you and Langenhoven. Grow up and get some manners. You let yourself down big time talking like that. You let your parents down too.
Cheers little boy. Sober up too.
November 7th, 2009 at 1:07 am
#624 grant10:
And what rough Beast, its hour come round at last, slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?
November 7th, 2009 at 1:08 am
#615 Robzim: said that to a mate…rather tonight than in 2011 in a quarterfinal….but rob…okes dont learn…accept mediocrity all the time…it pi sses me off so bad….we are Boks ffs….where do we go back like tonite and against the wallabies??? Un bloody acceptable….and we just dont get it!!!
Makes me so mal!!
November 7th, 2009 at 1:09 am
#633 Langenhoven:
Howzit Shawn,
Where have u been lately?
Not enough fire for u on keo anymore?
How’s it going in London.
The pretty cousin still fine?
November 7th, 2009 at 1:10 am
#628 carol: we cant scrum….thats the deal….we cant BLOODY SCRUM!!!!!!!!!
November 7th, 2009 at 1:11 am
#632 charo: Hello Charo, Yip well said there Charo.
Remember to meet me at mecc sometime when you in Umhlanga. I can organize a golf game for you too. Not me with kak knees but have plenty mates that play there.
Cheers Charo, Catch up some other time.
November 7th, 2009 at 1:11 am
#634 Puma: Got proud parents mate… as for you.. Get real mate.. Faking is for woman
November 7th, 2009 at 1:12 am
No Wp
Danie, Jannie, And Gurthro the main culprits followed by Pienaar, Ndungane and Ralepelle. All Wc 2007 Stalwarts. Next in line is Smit and Beast going to see their asses. If they were scrumming tonight they would have been annihilated just the same as Gurthro Jannie and Heinke were.
So there you have the problem. Now watch Kanko Smit and Beast show their mettle against France. I simply can’t wait.
Johnson Adams Rose Nokwe Hargreaves Hougaard even Raubenheimer played Ok. It was your has been’s that f’d up worse than anyone not the D Team players you crying about.
November 7th, 2009 at 1:12 am
#630 Robzim: Thats better, but incorrect….
WP, only for Percy….then they treated him like an OAP so I gravitated to the Big Blue’s up North.
Where men are men!!
November 7th, 2009 at 1:13 am
#634 Puma:
I think you’re losing it – where did Transformation talk “foul-mouthed” as you put it? And why the hell bring in his girlfriend? I’ve been looking at Transformation’s posts, but fail to see this alleged content?
Nah, old man, I think you should rather go like you’ve been threatening for the past 20 minutes, you are making a fool of yourself now, charging windmills
November 7th, 2009 at 1:13 am
#636 grant10:
Yeah, you know, it got so bad I could not watch the last 20 minutes – switched the TV off and played chess against the computer (honestly)and checked the score on Keo every 5 seconds.
I cannot handle this sh@t anymore.
November 7th, 2009 at 1:14 am
#642 carol:
You do know they sing “Liefling” to each other, up there?
November 7th, 2009 at 1:15 am
PdV must be humble enough to admit his failings and mustnt be arrogant regarding his shocking selections
November 7th, 2009 at 1:16 am
#637 Robzim: London is cooking mate.. I am trying to solve the credit crunch all on my own… I need to curb my spending… Work is intense.. never been this busy ever.. but looking forward to Christmas… booked chrismas lunch in the restaurant on level 95 on the Eiffel Tower, Paris
November 7th, 2009 at 1:16 am
anyway….sorry if o lost it a bit…..red wine and beer lethal….add in Jannie Dup and Guthro and a reverse gear that is turbo charged and the recipe for a freak out is complete….better have another beer then get some sleep….
Best of luck to eng and wales tomorrow….carol…enjoy the game!
Outta here…
PS….I HOPE SOME OKES LEARNT A LESSON ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF SCRUMS….DONT BE FOOLED BY BIG HIT AND OTHERS WHO SAY ITS NOT IMPORTANT….IT IS THE FOUNDATION OF A TEAM
good nite.
November 7th, 2009 at 1:16 am
#638 grant10: Sounds like the scrums were a bit embarrasing!!!
November 7th, 2009 at 1:18 am
#648 grant10: Thanks Grant, I will….sleep well.
It will all seem better in the morning
November 7th, 2009 at 1:18 am
carol you simply a fence sitter and if I must say so you a bit of a groupie looking for attention from the wrong neck of the woods. But be my quest sorry to spell these things out as uncouth and bluntly as I do but sometimes some tough hard truths are better to swallow than sweet sugary lies.
November 7th, 2009 at 1:18 am
#637 Robzim: BTW.. got a couple of equally hot cousins in London also… you guys should arrange a group tour..
November 7th, 2009 at 1:18 am
#645 WP Till I Die: I don’t know what that means!!
November 7th, 2009 at 1:20 am
#651 skopskiet: Carol understands Bra Skop… You are a hero forever mate… Long Live!!
November 7th, 2009 at 1:21 am
#653 carol:
Neither do I….
November 7th, 2009 at 1:21 am
#634 Puma: lol…now that i’ve managed to curb your moaning, you’re on to my parents, my up bringing & my girlfriend? Lol…good night old bean, just don’t think you know it all when it comes to rugby, manage your urge to whine by being objective. There’s no reason for you to be wailing like a widow on this blog blaming quotas & non-merit selections for a EOYT mid-week experimental game where the team was blatantly under-cooked. In the 3rd lions test pdv experimented & the result was much the same, today he had 8 new caps & they struggled but earlier you were moaning like we’ve just lost the world cup because of selection blunders…
Get a grip! And please don’t ever talk about my parents
November 7th, 2009 at 1:21 am
#651 skopskiet: Oh Skop, a groupie, that’s the nicest thing anyone has said to me all day!!
Thanks my little possum….Mwahhhhhhh.
November 7th, 2009 at 1:21 am
#642 carol:
Why do you say men are men up North?
I thought you were impressed with the men you met in CT as well?
November 7th, 2009 at 1:21 am
Evenin’ all
November 7th, 2009 at 1:22 am
#640 Langenhoven: You let your parent down the way you speak Langenhoven. You must have the worst foul trash mouth here.
#643 WP Till I Die: WPTID scroll back and read Transie’s post to me. Well Hater had the most foul mouth here as a woman we all know that. Check Langenhovens post to me. You will have to scroll back a long way to read Langenhovens. He is always foul mouth. Never brought up correct to speak like that. Never.
You on the other hand WPTID are a decent bloke.
Cheers WPTID.
November 7th, 2009 at 1:23 am
#657 carol: You are so sweet;-)
November 7th, 2009 at 1:24 am
#652 Langenhoven:
We might just take u up on this.
If you can arrange for one to be a blonde I am sure Grant will also be very keen
November 7th, 2009 at 1:24 am
#659 JockBok: Welcome to the “House of Fun”!! Long tome no speak…
By the way, you may not be safe as it appears Skop thinks I am a ‘groupie’.
(What EXACTLY is a groupie anyway)?
November 7th, 2009 at 1:24 am
skop
What exactly did Raubenheimer actually do? I saw him twice, once he knocked the ball on and the 2nd time he missed a tackle.
And why did you say ‘Your has beens’ I didnt pick them!
November 7th, 2009 at 1:25 am
did Olivier play tonight it was little De Jongh the only one taking care of the monster Tuilagi.
Pienaar had a mare but it all started with G. Steenkamp and J. Du Plessis up front. Thats the nuts and bolts of the problem. 2007 Wc winning props that can’t scrum in the Nh. Simple as pie fix that and we halfway home and dry.
November 7th, 2009 at 1:25 am
#660 Puma: Fk you… since when have I ever been foul mouthed… bladdy doos
November 7th, 2009 at 1:27 am
#666 Langenhoven:
Is that post supposed to be ironic?
November 7th, 2009 at 1:27 am
#662 Robzim: I will arrange 5 blondes… and a lovely jamaican… for skop
November 7th, 2009 at 1:27 am
#658 Robzim: Now I have managed to offend you and I did not mean to do that!!
Hey, the Cape Town Crew were wonderful….(and very manly, even Skop, although he is being bloody rude to me tonight, miserable old git)!!
November 7th, 2009 at 1:27 am
#663 carol: Hey Carol. Yep, no reliable internet connection makes Jock a dull boy. But things are on the up so should be about a bit more. How’s you? Getting a hard time here by the looks of it…
November 7th, 2009 at 1:27 am
#667 WP Till I Die: LOL
November 7th, 2009 at 1:28 am
Ok, all, I’m off and into bed. Everybody just needs to relax
November 7th, 2009 at 1:29 am
#672 WP Till I Die: Cheers broer
November 7th, 2009 at 1:29 am
Just found a text on my phone from a mate saying “Who is the SA No 12″?
Wynand has a new English fan…..
November 7th, 2009 at 1:30 am
#668 Langenhoven: just arrange a loosehead and a tighthead that can scrum…i will come collect them….
And of course a blonde would be a most welcome fringe benefit….damm…feeling a bit wasted now….blonde sound asleep…3 beers left…what the hell…numbs the pain!
November 7th, 2009 at 1:31 am
#651 skopskiet: lol skop, why all this brutal honesty? Let’s tone it down a little.
November 7th, 2009 at 1:31 am
#669 carol:
I am not offended, I am still trying to offend you?
Getting a bit confused.
We have not had 670 posts for a long time.
This place still rules, do you admit?
November 7th, 2009 at 1:32 am
#660 Puma: you’ve got some serious issues that you need to deal with as soon as possible mate.you are some screwed-up ******.last time you accused a blogger of trying to kill you and i can see now that there is still no improvement in your behaviour.
November 7th, 2009 at 1:32 am
Ahhh, bugger it, I’m cracking open another beer and staying to watch the fireworks
November 7th, 2009 at 1:32 am
#670 JockBok: I’m fine thanks, it is just Friday Night throwing out of the pub time behaviour here……pretty funny!!
Skop adores me really!!
November 7th, 2009 at 1:33 am
#675 grant10: A blonde that is a bit of a loosehead with a tight… OK I will arrange
November 7th, 2009 at 1:33 am
#666 Langenhoven: Go read your post 538 or have you a short memory too. That was foul mouth trailer trash talk. If you think that is not foul mouth you just not thinking. Too drunk maybe.
#656 Transformation: Transie just grow up.
November 7th, 2009 at 1:34 am
01:30 AND keo is still pumping? Wow.
November 7th, 2009 at 1:34 am
#675 grant10: I was just going to go to bed too….
Shall we have another fight?
Kept the bloggers guessing here for weeks!!
November 7th, 2009 at 1:34 am
Wow, roger me sideways, this Pilsner Urquell is going down lovely.
November 7th, 2009 at 1:35 am
#677 Robzim: And … the Almighty popped in
November 7th, 2009 at 1:35 am
Raubenheimer and Maku put in some sterling efforts in the loose. In the tight we were drilled and Dickenson let them get all over the ruck ball on the wrong side, he was not fair in some of his calls.
The players played with guts but played stupid. They went into one on one drives isolating themselves. All of them. Johnson, Roussouw, Hougaard, Deysel, Bekker, Pienaar and Potgieter all tried busting up alone and not linking. That last twenty phase attack that got nowhere was always going nowhere because they simply don’t know how to link and spread it wide and probe gaps when required. Thats the pitiful reality of Sa rugby we still got zero confidence in our passing running game and we going to continue getting exposed as one dimensional fools until we can become a complete total rugby team. Our A team not much better. Kick n chase and moer mos voort, thats about all we know. Pdv and Muir letting the side down with zero back line drills whatsoever.
November 7th, 2009 at 1:37 am
#682 Puma: Have you got dementia young man… I have never ever been fking rude to you
November 7th, 2009 at 1:38 am
I think we need some conflict resolution on here!
In other news, I can see nothing but two Southern Hemisphere wins 2moro. Aus-Eng will be close. NZ Wales not as much.
November 7th, 2009 at 1:39 am
#677 Robzim: Keo does have its moments…RT however is a special place….
Ok I give up trying to fight with you….
Big article on Luke in the London Times yesterday, why does he insist on showing that tattoo at every opportunity?
November 7th, 2009 at 1:39 am
A housewife, an accountant and a lawyer were all asked the same question: What is two plus two?
The housewife: “4!”
The accountant: “I think it’s either 3 or 4. Let me run those figures through my spreadsheet one more time.”
The lawyer (after turning down the lights, pulling down the drapes, his voice hushed): “How much do you want it to be?”
November 7th, 2009 at 1:39 am
#683 WP_: I am entertaining
November 7th, 2009 at 1:40 am
#686 Langenhoven:
LoL, yeah, and I am going to have an almighty kopseer tomorrow!
November 7th, 2009 at 1:40 am
wynand olivier is just another blue bull show-pony.never rated him and after tonight i now know why,he is just a useless ****** arsehole and will only be good cc player.time pdv to leave this **** in pretoria
November 7th, 2009 at 1:41 am
#682 Puma: Puma, my man. How’s it going?
November 7th, 2009 at 1:41 am
will you drunks just keep up, the pace is flagging…..
November 7th, 2009 at 1:42 am
#691 WP Till I Die: A bit dry mate… but it does not matter.. I still chuckled.. the beers and JD went down well.. cleared the stocks… need to restock tomorrow
November 7th, 2009 at 1:42 am
You were clearly imagining things Skop. Raubenheimer did nothing. I was watching him closely as i’m not convinced he’s good enough and boy did he prove me so right!
November 7th, 2009 at 1:43 am
A lion in the Johannesburg Zoo was lying in the sun licking its butt when a visitor turned to the zookeeper and said: “That’s a lazy old lion, isn’t it?”
“No way!” says the zookeeper. “It’s the most ferocious, most dangerous beast in this zoo. Why, just an hour ago, it dragged a Blue Bulls fan into the cage and completely devoured him!”
“That’s incredible,” said the astonished visitor, “but why is it laying there licking its butt?”
“The poor thin is trying to get the taste out of its mouth.”
November 7th, 2009 at 1:43 am
#688 Langenhoven: So what does your post 538 say? Do you call that not rude? Go back and read it. That is trash foul mouth talk.
I think you are either drunk or have dementia if you cant remember that post. Now go back just scroll back its not hard and READ what you said. You alway come here with your filthy mouth.
#678 Valkyrie: Yes it was you that said a bullet was coming my way. All you did was change your nick. Think I am stupid. Remember you can get into serious trouble for saying things like that. My brothers murderers got caught on a blog bragging like that. They traced them to their cell numbers and that is how they found them. That was death threat that time you said that. Changing your nick means nothing you can be traced. Just be careful what you say.
November 7th, 2009 at 1:44 am
#690 carol: It’s a bit sad isn’t it. As much as I love the guy, he keeps presenting this image that does him no favours on a PR front. I suppose though, that it’s all a front aimed at making the turnstiles click.
November 7th, 2009 at 1:44 am
#690 carol:
You must stop your RT recruiting here – it is uncool.
We do not like those dudes – they are from a previous era
Did you see the Luke interview in England?
I will try and find the clip and send it to you – great speech, he already owns the place.
November 7th, 2009 at 1:44 am
#698 WP_: Did you watch Olivier also closely… He is kind of pretty.. ask carol
November 7th, 2009 at 1:45 am
you welcome Carol dearie what are friends for if not for telling the truth now n again even when it hurts a little bit. Thats why love comes with some tough swallowing every now and again.
You most welcome to sidle up to your big breek BB pals but push comes to shove sometime or other one has to take a stand and decide where you really fit. I mean square pegs don’t fit round holes and all that and neither the other way round.
So it must be a little confusing running this a way and that a way with all your affections. I mean how many lovers can one person have, you either love this or you love that, you simply cannot always have your toast buttered both sides of every fence, unless perhaps if you come from the Cotswolds, maybe you get so ambi dexterous over there that you can love left right and center all at the same time.
November 7th, 2009 at 1:45 am
Nah not you Langenhoven. You have a really high opinion of yourself, which really has very little basis. Quite funny actually.
November 7th, 2009 at 1:46 am
#695 JockBok: Very well and with you JockBok?
I had my Scot mates here for 5 weeks in August. Was really fun to have them over. Always enjoy you Scots.
November 7th, 2009 at 1:46 am
#682 Puma:lol…come on puma, can’t you take a bit of robust banter? there was nothing foul mouthed about my posts, but what you’re used to is your “self-righteous i-know-it-all” rants being tolerated & entertained by some here. Today you lost perspective, and were “throwing your toys” like the kid you accuse me of being. Check yourself old bean WPTID has already nudged you…
#679 WP Till I Die: good thing you’re not sleeping…i’m so sober it’s embarrassing.
November 7th, 2009 at 1:46 am
#682 Puma: why don’t you *** off to bed you cry-baby piece of useless ****!your milkies and cookies are waiting for you.become a real man moan ‘gat’.
November 7th, 2009 at 1:47 am
#701 JockBok: It’s ok, they won’t understand it in Bath!!
It’s from another time and another place….
November 7th, 2009 at 1:48 am
#699 WP Till I Die: Tops the last one… but maybe its Puma that he ate
November 7th, 2009 at 1:49 am
#708 Valkyrie:
Whoa! That’s also uncalled for. No need to get insulting.
I agree that he can be a moaner, but no need to insult him personally in such a foul-mouthed manner. You score no points doing that…
I think you need to apologise.
November 7th, 2009 at 1:49 am
#703 Lang
You should stop trying to be funny. It doesnt quite work for you mate.
Olivier did do much either. Was very quiet.
November 7th, 2009 at 1:49 am
Langes they tell me you have a knock out cousin from Bellies or where exactly? Jong kaapse meide met egte rooi bloed in hulle veine, those are the lassies for me.
November 7th, 2009 at 1:49 am
#706 Puma: Fark mate, some things never change hey? Still the same loud mouth know alls knocking about on here thinking it’s cool to be a cyber space warrior. I dont’t know why you bother arguing with these muppets. They’d run a mile in real life if they didn’t have a computer to hide behind.
November 7th, 2009 at 1:50 am
#705 WP_: I am like ***** mate… I can pull a crowd of 5000 and make them eat fish
November 7th, 2009 at 1:50 am
#712 “…didnt do much…”
November 7th, 2009 at 1:51 am
#702 Robzim:
You must realise that Luke will be just another Saffa here!! There are lots and he will have to be amazing to stand out!! With Bath where they are now I doubt he will be able to shine!!
November 7th, 2009 at 1:51 am
#708 Valkyrie: Carry on like trash. You only let yourself down. So it was you that said that to me? Not good to say things like that on a blog ever. You can be traced. That was a death threat when you said that. Be careful of what you say here.
How old are you? You too should grow up.
Crikey some real trash on here tonight among some really decent people. How you trash keep coming here is quiet something else.
November 7th, 2009 at 1:52 am
#706 Puma: Ignore the nobs, you know who your friends are!!
November 7th, 2009 at 1:53 am
#715 Nope.
More like one of the dead fish
November 7th, 2009 at 1:54 am
#714 JockBok: I agree JockBok, Why I bother I have no idea. Normally I say nothing. Just maybe for once giving it back with manners though. Ag, wont say no more. Like Shark_Lover said I just go to their level by talking with them.
How is work up there in Africa? Are you enjoying it? I used to go up to there on Business many years back. Not where you are but a bit north.
November 7th, 2009 at 1:54 am
#713 skopskiet: Skop… Jaimacan Browns, kaapse chics, Brazilian hot bods… all the same and all in London
November 7th, 2009 at 1:54 am
#360 Puma:
Come on fella. When the ABs played Munster last yr it was virtually a C-team too if you consider the 18 x RWC ABs that had left the previous year.
No excuses. Your team got beat by a team that was, simply, hungrier.
And that Leicester team was playing ’squad members’ after 9 gone to England team and multiple injuries. It was a weak Leicester team with 1 or 3 quality players.
All it says is that SA doesnt have these incredible reserves that they kidded themselves they had. Their match day-22 is awesome but then it falls away quickly. Even Pienaar-Woods was horrible tonight.
The ABs 2nd/3rdss are equally as average without those foreign reserves. But they would have attacked the game more than the Boks did tonight. They beat Munster in more dangerous territory last season because they played positively til the end. The Boks tonight were bereft of ideas – that pick’n'drive at the end was woeful – and unless the 1st XV learn to vary their kicking-reliant tactics, their tryline could come under threat too.
Toulouse looms large. Wow, it will be some atmosphere there !!!!
November 7th, 2009 at 1:55 am
Ignore the idiots Puma.
They only bring you down to their low level of intellect, then beat you with their experience!
November 7th, 2009 at 1:55 am
#709 carol: Maybe! And maybe we can put it down to the PR machine drumming up some interest in a new signing, hoping to reverse recent fortunes and pull in afew more punters. I suppose I’d just hoped that Luke would get his head down and keep his mouth shut. Hoping that his performances would make the headlines and prove to everyone back home that he’s the player I know he is already.
November 7th, 2009 at 1:55 am
What are the odds of this getting to 1000 posts?
November 7th, 2009 at 1:57 am
#704 skopskiet: Skop, this is only a blog……..and, as I am English and do not have your round peg square hole mentality YOUR rules do NOT apply to me!!
Remember this….
November 7th, 2009 at 1:57 am
#721 Puma: You always say something… and it wasn’t me who used foul language…someone stole my nick and insulted you… I am going to complain… MY apologies..fking wnker..oops!!
November 7th, 2009 at 1:57 am
A woman was shopping in the local supermarket where she selected a quart of milk, eggs, a carton of juice, and a package of bacon. As she unloaded her items at the cash register to pay, a drunk standing behind her in line watched her place the four items on the belt and stated with assurance: “You must be single.”
The woman looked at the four items on the belt, saw nothing unusual about her selection and said: “That’s right. How on earth did you know?”
He replied: “Because you’re frickin’ ugly.”
November 7th, 2009 at 1:57 am
#718 Puma: no it was not me but what a pity, that blogger would have done us a favour because you are just an irritating ‘brommer’.
November 7th, 2009 at 1:58 am
#719 carol: I know Carol and those are not..
When this happens I wonder why I come back here. You don’t get this on RT.
I just enjoy some bloggers here. Rob, Cab, Jinx, Grant,Charo, JokBok, WP, Sodajoe, and Tassie and a few others. Should only really speak with my mates. Sometimes Skop I don’t take him serious but he is okay I read behind the lines with old skop I enjoy a lot of skoppies posts.
You sweet Carol I know I can speak with on the otherise..
November 7th, 2009 at 1:58 am
#717 carol:
He is an amazing player and leader , do not believe what you hear on the dark side.
As I said they are from a previous era – you must take their views with a fistful of salt.
One or 2 knows a bit, the rest suck big time.
(angry yet?)
November 7th, 2009 at 1:59 am
ok guess its getting long in the tooth now time to call it a night.
Had a suspicion this team were going to get thumped by Leicester who were up for an upset and Dickenson was aiming for it too. Nothing wrong getting taught some hard truth lessons in life. Is about time they got rid of the poetsers like J. Dup Roussouw and some others. Get in the real hungry ones now better late than never.
Night night
November 7th, 2009 at 1:59 am
#721 Puma: Things going well mate, thanks. Have had such an unreliable internet connection it makes blogging virtually impossible, but have recently had an upgrade at the hotel I’m staying at so hopefully will be able to chat a bit more.
I am in Ghana for a couple of days and just had the good fortune of meeting Charo and having a few beers watching the game. Pity about the result though
November 7th, 2009 at 1:59 am
#725 JockBok: Well good luck to him, it is a wonderful place to live. Hope he can improve Baths fortunes.
November 7th, 2009 at 2:00 am
#724 WP_: I’ve got a brilliant mind…Def no dead fish…My mom tells me that all the time…OK she is my mom
November 7th, 2009 at 2:01 am
#730 Valkyrie: It was you. So be careful never to say that to anyone again. Remember what I told you that my brothers murderers were traced like that.
November 7th, 2009 at 2:01 am
A blond farmer and his wife were lying in bed one evening. She was knitting and he was reading the latest issue of Animal Husbandry. He looked up from the page and said to her: “Did you know that humans are the only species in which the female achieves ******?”
She looked at him wistfully, smiled, and replied: “Oh, yeah? Prove it.”
The blond farmer frowned for a moment, then said: “OK.” He got up and walked out, leaving his wife with a confused look on her face. About a half hour later, he returned all tired and sweaty.
“Well,” he said: “I’m sure the cow and sheep didn’t ******, but the way that pig is always squealing, how can I tell?”
November 7th, 2009 at 2:01 am
#398 SodaJoe:
what front row ?
November 7th, 2009 at 2:01 am
wow, i have not read a thread like this in ages. what happened here, is it all because earl rose had a commendable game? Did any of you see that sidestep by the touchline?
November 7th, 2009 at 2:02 am
#719 carol: don’t you have a rightwing meeting on rt or a bnp meeting in some obscure english village to attend to?tired of sucking onto gbs’s balls?
November 7th, 2009 at 2:03 am
#729 WP Till I Die: Give that a 9 mate LOL… I bet Puma thinks you incredibly rude now
November 7th, 2009 at 2:03 am
#734 JockBok: Good that you got together with Charo. A good bloke Charo. Will meet up with him when he is in Umhlanga.
Pity about the result for sure. Maybe our Test Boks will do better. Hoping. Think they are tired too. A lot of the Bulls Boks will be very tired.
November 7th, 2009 at 2:04 am
#741 Valkyrie:
No, no, no. That is completely out of line. Please retract that comment.
November 7th, 2009 at 2:04 am
#732 Robzim: Angry……
Skop calls me a fence sitting groupie and tells me I have LOVERS (This is news to me, but also VERY exciting as I have never had a lover)!! Well not since I had a husband anyway!!
You tell me I am recruiting for RT when I was doing nothing of the sort…….
No I am not angry, amused….
Who are my lovers anyway, I feel I should know?
November 7th, 2009 at 2:04 am
#733 skopskiet: I’m surprised Vermuelen wasn’t taken along as no-one in SA is as hungry and ready as him, and I’m doubly surprised that you think Raubenheimer played well yet Roussouw’s time is over…
November 7th, 2009 at 2:04 am
#717 carol: hi carol, i read somewhere that you are a groupie, are you also into luke watson? You seem to be quite interested in what he is doing. He got married just a couple of months back, just so you know.
November 7th, 2009 at 2:05 am
#734 JockBok: How long you still up there BokJock?
November 7th, 2009 at 2:05 am
#741 Valkyrie: Yey at last the foul mouthed numpty has a go at me….come on big man dish it out…
You are a nob of note too!!
November 7th, 2009 at 2:05 am
#740 Pearl Rose: you are probably right.just gave credit to earl’s last few performances and the next moment sodajoe and his cronies tried to kick the living **** out of me!
November 7th, 2009 at 2:06 am
#436 Valkyrie:
Funny, we’ve had Potgeiter and Deysel rammed down our throats ALL season about them being the future stars – and they were **** tonight.
And yet every man and his mongrel dog have ridiculed Earl Rose as being a hopeless Quota, all season long – and he was classy tonight !
now what does that tell us ?
November 7th, 2009 at 2:07 am
Cheers all..#740 Pearl Rose:A bit late mate
#737 Puma: I got to go now… LOve you too Puma… fking dkhd..oops sorry never meant that
November 7th, 2009 at 2:07 am
#742 Langenhoven: I actually enjoy speaking with WPTID. A good decent bloke with a good sense of humour too.
November 7th, 2009 at 2:07 am
#747 Pearl Rose: It appears I am a groupie, news to me but makes a change. No, Luke is too bristly and has water melon arms…And he wore a kilt to his wedding (very suspect unless your name is Jockbok)!!
I’ll stick with Percy thanks….
November 7th, 2009 at 2:09 am
I’m outta here. Night all. Keep it clean on here alright? To all the drunks, I hope your heads arent too sore in the morning!
Anyway Cheers all.
November 7th, 2009 at 2:09 am
#460 katman:
oh surprise. If only you’d have asked we could have told you you dont know yer elbow from yer assh*le.
November 7th, 2009 at 2:10 am
It has been announced that, henceforth, lawyers will replace rats in laboratories, for the following reasons:
1. Lawyers reproduce faster.
2. The scientists don’t get attached to the lawyers.
3. A lawyer will do things a rat wouldn’t even consider.
November 7th, 2009 at 2:10 am
#753 Puma: See you on ‘The Otherside’….Sleep well.
November 7th, 2009 at 2:10 am
#745 carol:
Don’t know about the lovers but you said I must make you angry and I think I did with the assistance of the irresistible Skopskiet.
Puma still likes us though.
November 7th, 2009 at 2:10 am
Cheers Carol, JockBok and Waka. Out of here now.
November 7th, 2009 at 2:11 am
#741 Valkyrie: I’d imagine she is more tired of having to put up with keyboard heroes like you. Show a bit of respect pal, ffs!
November 7th, 2009 at 2:11 am
#706 Puma:
hi puma,
enjoyed a little social time with jockbok and his colleagues tonight.
please, ignore the lowlife from the cape flats..these guys have no culture and either end up in pollsmoor or refugees in uk.
they are the @rseholes of the world
November 7th, 2009 at 2:12 am
Night Chaps – Drink a pint of water before you head hits the pillow, you will thank me in the morning!!
November 7th, 2009 at 2:12 am
#754 carol:
Watson is a famous Anglo-Scottish surname of great antiquity, very popular in northern England and the Border Country – translated, it means “powerful warrior”…
November 7th, 2009 at 2:12 am
#755 WP_: Cheers WP. Me too probably one of the sober one here tonight. Hope all have a fat huge headache in the morning..
Forgot Cheers Rob.
November 7th, 2009 at 2:13 am
#748 Puma: Another 6 months or so…..then it’s of to Cameroon. It’s just not getting better I’m afraid!!!
November 7th, 2009 at 2:13 am
#759 Robzim:
Grrrrr, you got me!!
Night Rob – I owe you a mail, hope the fish are OK!! Mwahhh x
November 7th, 2009 at 2:14 am
#751 WakaNathan: very simple,you can take the stairs away from these people but you can’t stop them from still dreaming of pushing people down that stairs!
November 7th, 2009 at 2:14 am
Raubenheimer was pretty anonymous little out his league but so too was Potgieter Olivier Roussouw Pienaar Ndungane and especially Du Plessis and Steenkamp so he was in pretty good company tonight.
Perhaps if the scrum provided a platform these young loosie’s might have shown some deft play making and linking. That break through soft try started by their scrum half and taken through by center and wing to skin our defence set the tone for the rest of the match. We were drilled up front so rest of the team reverted to instinct which resulted in a every man for himself kind of strategy. Pity but hard lessons need hard swallowing and hopefully Muir and Gold and Pdv catch a big wake up. Leicester are a professional outfit and even playing some second tier players their front row class set the stage for the inevitable. Good lesson for Sa coaches to rather learn now than when on Wc 2011 doorstep. The honeymoon is over wakey wakey time boys.
November 7th, 2009 at 2:15 am
Cheers Puma!
Yes i’ll thank myself in tomorrow morning! Catch you around mate.
November 7th, 2009 at 2:15 am
#541 SodaJoe:
my my, the girls sure have got their fingernails sharpened tonight
November 7th, 2009 at 2:15 am
#767 carol:
See u.
November 7th, 2009 at 2:15 am
#764 WP Till I Die: My old Dad used to say ‘half the world is Scottish, and the other half wants to be’
November 7th, 2009 at 2:16 am
#762 charo: I know just got caught up in it tonight. Some just get me a bit angry but really should let it go like I normally just scroll by.
Cheers Charo. Catch up another time. Falling asleep here at my pc. Never been up this late on this blog here before.
November 7th, 2009 at 2:16 am
#765 Puma:
Take it easy man, cheers.
November 7th, 2009 at 2:17 am
#595 WP Till I Die:
havent stopped !
November 7th, 2009 at 2:18 am
A little boy was overheard talking to himself as he strutted through the backyard, wearing his baseball cap and toting a ball and bat: “I’m the greatest hitter in the world,” he announced.
Then, he tossed the ball into the air, swung at it, and missed.
“Strike one!” he yelled. Undaunted, he picked up the ball and said again: “I’m the greatest hitter in the world!”
He tossed the ball into the air. When it came down he swung again and missed.
“Strike two!” he cried.
The boy then paused a moment to examine his bat and ball carefully.
He spit on his hands and rubbed them together. He straightened his cap and said once more: “I’m the greatest hitter in the world!”
Again he tossed the ball up in the air and swung at it. He missed.
“Strike three!”
“Wow!” he exclaimed: “I’m the greatest pitcher in the world.
November 7th, 2009 at 2:19 am
#769 skopskiet: Yep, I was saying to Charo that the GP and NH rugby in general is all about strong defence, and the Boks just never had the line breakers to cause them problems.
November 7th, 2009 at 2:20 am
#773 JockBok: Before I go. I think the Scots are the best. That is why half my mates are all Scottish. Scotland like my 2nd home too. Should have gone over this month but will leave it for next year May. My mates son is getting married so will go over then.
Now really out of here. Cheers JockBok.
Now gone.
November 7th, 2009 at 2:20 am
#774 Puma: Cheers Puma, take it easy mate. Don’t let the b’stards grind you down…
November 7th, 2009 at 2:21 am
#776 WakaNathan:
Kia ora, WakaNathan. How’s your OE treating you?
November 7th, 2009 at 2:22 am
8 Duane Vermeulen, 7 Jean Deysel, 6 Dewald Potgieter (captain), 5 Wilhelm Steenkamp, 4 Steven Sykes, 3 Werner Kruger, 2 Tian Liebenberg, 1 Wian du Preez… had no problems against the might of the British Lions… Snor must have been asleep in that game!
November 7th, 2009 at 2:22 am
#762 charo: your people have been the arseholes of this world for a long time now mate.have you checked that 4bloemfontein ***** pleading to their black masters to be let into that former afrikaaner bastion freestate university.very funny to see them grovel on their four paws like the dogs that they are.
November 7th, 2009 at 2:23 am
#783 Valkyrie:
Unnecessary.
What does all this possibly achieve?
November 7th, 2009 at 2:24 am
#762 charo:wow, quite admirable language
#751 WakaNathan: it tells you nothing waka. Earl has had shockers like lauaki and then one day like today, he does everything right but he is touch & go…
deysel & potgieter were overwhelmed by the leicester forward who were hunting as a pack, even heinrich brussow would’ve been silenced by the barrage of bodies that was flying in from the side of rucks illegally! And the leicester guys were hardly supporting their weights & laid flat to seal the ball.
November 7th, 2009 at 2:25 am
#783 Valkyrie: South Africa will never be right until arzeholes like you stop bringing race into every discussion. Go and sleep it off dickweed, 2 black labels is just too much for your tiny brain to handle.
November 7th, 2009 at 2:27 am
Nasty loss tonight Ladies, that Leicester C pack simply owned the Boks.
Still, dont take your eye off the main prize:-
France at Toulouse. That is going to be some match.
Anyone going ?
November 7th, 2009 at 2:28 am
carol one more observation before I turn in. Those twits over the otherside have succeeded in indoctrinating your groupie mind even to the extent of seeing bogus bogey men where non reside. I must say I’m kind of disappointed in you for being so un ashamedly gullible to such hood winked extent. You think these fools are he men when you actually couldn’t be much further from the truth, but like square pegs and round holes, birds of certain feathers will always flock together no matter which side of the hemispheres they gather from. Language aint the barrier of empty consciousness its mentality and morality that count. You don’t know individuals from squat, you have no ideological reference by which to judge them but because your happy clap fraudulent gang of thieves tell you somebody is something you quite happy to go blindly along for the ideological ride. That my girl smacks not only of idiocy but also of very poor judgement of character which can’t bode too well for your very English credibility if you so easily duped by mob peer pressure.
November 7th, 2009 at 2:28 am
#773 JockBok: the scots are a useless nation and a bunch of cowards that loves to be ruled by her majesty,the queen of england.i’ve got more respect for the irish who refused to live under english rule and fought like real men to gain their freedom.
November 7th, 2009 at 2:28 am
#777 WP Till I Die:
howdy o level headed one.
thanks for the jokes while all around were losing their sanity…lol.
jockbok is a great asset to sa..a scot who married a beautiful (i imagine) afrikaans girl from stellenbosch.
was great to chat with him this evening
November 7th, 2009 at 2:31 am
#789 Valkyrie:
Are you condoning all acts perpetrated by the IRA, then?
November 7th, 2009 at 2:32 am
#785 Transformation:
yep, that would be it. No, lets not give the opposition tooooooo much credit huh.
Lets try the Alex Ferguson method instead and blame the ref for being hopeless thereby deflecting the negative shortcomings of your own team.
As for ‘not even Brussow’, I seem to remember him getting repeatedly pinged at Durban vs NZ for doing exactly the same thing youre now accusing Leicester of, ie ’supporting their weight’ (aka bridging).
November 7th, 2009 at 2:32 am
#785 Transformation:
refer #783 if you are looking for admirable language.
need i say more?
November 7th, 2009 at 2:35 am
#789 Valkyrie: #783 Valkyrie: #768 Valkyrie: dude please tone down the rhetoric, not everyone is a raving racist…
November 7th, 2009 at 2:36 am
#789 Valkyrie: Hahahahaha, real tough men planting bombs under cars and shooting soldiers from 300m away. Miserable f’cking cowards, to a man.
But please, do tell me oh wise one, just how did SA become a multi-cultural paradise? Because the white men gave it back my friend. That’s how. Not because you burned a few types at a road block.
November 7th, 2009 at 2:36 am
#787 WakaNathan: agree with you wak.the bulls and shark players have been shown-up for just being overrated plain and simple,the bulls luckily won the currie cup and the next day they think that they are the best provincial side in the world… ****** laughable man.the sharks and their supporters have been the most deluded bunch of idiots this year thinking that the boks were so special but now we all know that they are just a bunch off overrated and quota{black and white) boks.
November 7th, 2009 at 2:39 am
#790 charo: Thanks mate, it was a real nice evening until the band kicked in and Leicester spoiled the party
But I’ll definately come and visit again soon. Maybe we need to mark the Stormers/Sharks game down as a definite.
November 7th, 2009 at 2:40 am
#788 skopskiet:
skoppie,
sorry mate but have to disagree with you.
carol is her own person and chooses where she socialises.
perhaps it is you who is lacking by judging someone simply by the company she chooses to keep in her time?
the majority of the folk on “rt” do not support the dark side but simply try to avoid some of the trash we have been exposed to on keo this evening.
i am not an advocate of one or the other, i prefer keo because it has more of an international flavour – but some of the remarks i have read tonight are not very short of downright gangsterism.
November 7th, 2009 at 2:42 am
OK all, I am out. For the count.
Let’s think before we post, hmmm kay?
November 7th, 2009 at 2:43 am
#798 charo: That’s the problem with Keo, you really have to sort the wheat from the chaff to have a decent discussion. And to be fair, it’s not always easy to hold back when you get such obviously easy targets as Valkyrie.
November 7th, 2009 at 2:45 am
#797 JockBok:
actually i enjoyed the band.
“no women no cry” was a special rendition.
one has to savour these moments in west africa.
November 7th, 2009 at 2:46 am
#795 JockBok: this is a very silly thing to say.
November 7th, 2009 at 2:48 am
#791 WP Till I Die: the ira was a legitimate organisation fighting for the freedom of their people and their country and michael collins bombing strategy against british soldiers forced the hand of the english at the end of the day that ’s why the republic is a free country today.the scots on the other hand are nothing but a bunch of cowards that are happy enough to tag along ubder english rule.long live the ira!long live!
November 7th, 2009 at 2:49 am
#801 charo: True, they were pretty good, and it is refreshing to enjoy African music in Africa in a situation where you don’t feel threatened or judged by the colour of your skin. One of the truly magical things about Togo/Ghana, you are a human being just like everyone else.
November 7th, 2009 at 2:52 am
#792 WakaNathan: lol. Eish waka i’d forgotten how verbose you can be. No mate i’m not deflecting anything from leicester, aaron mauger & scott hamilton kicked superbly & put under pressure where we had to play in our own half & they contested against rossouw & bekker.
They annihilated our scrum, so need for even mention that bit.
The breakdown is the only area where i feel we were hard done by stuart dickinson, the player with the scrum cap “hammond” or somethin like that, was constantly not entering through the gate. It didn’t help that our players isolated themselves & thus opened themselves up to being out hustled off the ball. There were instances where leicester simply shoved them off the ball like school kids, that was embarrasing.
All in all the experiment didn’t work, having had only 3 training session in the week vs a team that has some semblance of cohesion, balance & team spirit.
November 7th, 2009 at 2:52 am
#802 AndrewBK:
can you explain?
to me that was the truest post on this blog.
#803 Valkyrie:
somewhere in your miserable little life…you have been brainwashed to a single cell
November 7th, 2009 at 2:56 am
#805 Transformation:
that is the point i left out in my initial post – leceister counter-rucked us to oblivion. added to that dickenson let them get away with murder on the ruck offside rule. but it was our fault – we did not commit enough bodies – very much a saffa malaise i’m afraid
November 7th, 2009 at 2:57 am
#802 AndrewBK: I’m saying, perhaps in a clumsy way, that terrorism never wins.
#803 Valkyrie: lol, there are so many contradictions in such a short paragraph that I’m not sure where to start. But I suppose if you are comfortable enough to support a terrorist organisation and admit it to all and sundry, then I really have to say nothing to show you up as the fool and coward that you obviously are. Answer me one thing though, where does bravery come into planting a bomb in a busy street and detonating it from 10 miles away?
November 7th, 2009 at 2:59 am
#795 JockBok: scots will stay a bunch of cowards reduced to nothing by the english.in the republic their iraleaders like collins,pearse,connolly and others are honoured with bridges,streets buildings etc.named after them but in scotland they still wave the british flag with gusto as if it’s their own.bunch of ****** losers!
November 7th, 2009 at 3:00 am
#806 charo:
quote:
“But please, do tell me oh wise one, just how did SA become a multi-cultural paradise? Because the white men gave it back my friend. That’s how. Not because you burned a few types at a road block.”
this statement is suggesting that apartheid was a sustainable system, which it wasn’t. aside from that, the protests within the country attracted the focus of the international community, and which that came sanctions and pressure. no country can flourish in isolation, isolation of communities within it’s borders and isolation from the outside world. the system was deeply flawed and doomed to fail, there was none of this kind white men giving the land back out of the goodness of their hearts, it was inevitable.
November 7th, 2009 at 3:01 am
incredible how we go from a rugby game in welford road to the ira.
November 7th, 2009 at 3:02 am
#795 JockBok: nc nc nc…
November 7th, 2009 at 3:06 am
#804 JockBok: wow, how richly ironic, that’s what hugh masekela, miriam makeba etc said they felt like in europe & the united states back in the day… The more things change the more the stay the same.
November 7th, 2009 at 3:07 am
#810 AndrewBK:
in short, where else in the world has the first world minority handed over power to the third majority?
i cannot think of another example in the history of this planet.
truly remarkable.
the next problem is to make it succeed.
November 7th, 2009 at 3:08 am
#808 JockBok: the irish celebrate the easter rising,commonly known as the start of the beginning of the end of british rule, up to this day.this rising was started by brave ira men not afraid to die in fighting the english unlike the scots and welsh(to make you happy)who are very happy to have the queen of england’s foot on their throats.
November 7th, 2009 at 3:10 am
#809 Valkyrie: But it is our own. Have a look at the big blue bit at the back, that’s ours. You see, and I don’t expect you to understand this, we are a partnership and it’s a reciprocal arangement. If we wanted to change it, we would vote for change, and that is called democracy my small minded friend. It’s something that mature nations believe in and use to stop crazy minorities forcing their will on the majority. Like the IRA for example. A minority trying to force their way and their agenda onto a majority who don’t want it. Hence, we don’t give in and although it is tough at times, we don’t let cowardly little bombers bomb us into submission and sell out our citizens. DEMOCRACY!!!!
But hey, I’m assuming you’d respect a full on bombing campaign by the AWB?
November 7th, 2009 at 3:10 am
#813 Transformation:
oh puleeze transie!
we had an enjoyable evening – why the hell do you have to try to denigrate it.
chips anyone?
November 7th, 2009 at 3:10 am
don’t tell anyone but apparently there’s a rugby blog around here somewhere
November 7th, 2009 at 3:13 am
#818 AlanD:
well said
November 7th, 2009 at 3:15 am
#815 Valkyrie: I’m not sure if you are aware that Queen Elizabeth 2nd of England, is Queen Elizabeth 1st of Scotland. Crowned in a seperate ceremony and carrying on the tradition started by King James 6th of Scotland, who was asked to be King James 1st of England, and hence unite the monarchy?
Just wondering…
November 7th, 2009 at 3:17 am
#813 Transformation: True, and maybe the world is becoming a smaller place. But I’m pretty sure that the longer we harp on about race, the longer it will take.
November 7th, 2009 at 3:17 am
#811 AlanD: you can say that again aland…south africans of all kinds are a damaged bunch. I often say to my friends that one the first things the anc should’ve invested in was free psychiatric help for the masses. A lot of things that happened i this country are still affecting people mentally, from the inferior educaction that was designed not to produce thinking functional people but mere robots for a cheap labour system, to traumatic kidnappings & letter bombs…
The bust ups here on keo & the condescending retorts are just way of venting i guess…
November 7th, 2009 at 3:18 am
No Charo I’m not far wrong on this. A judgment call has been made on an individual who Carol has zero frame of reference of other than by what her indoctrinated opinionated right wing pals have told her and she gullibly swallows the induced indoctrination down whole. That simply tells me Carol doesn’t have an unbiased mind of her own but is so influenced by what a bunch of fool deluded idiots think about somebody whom she knows sweet f.all about that she goes along hook line and sinker for the joy ride.
Thats straight out indoctrinated groupie blindness talking nothing short of it I.m afraid.
November 7th, 2009 at 3:21 am
#816 JockBok: don’t make me laugh!you are a bunch of cowards that doesn’t have the will to be independent because you are so used to be ruled from westminister.you are the english queens’s whores so just accept it.
November 7th, 2009 at 3:23 am
#824 Valkyrie: that’s also a silly thing to say! aghh! this place becomes a madhouse after dark…
November 7th, 2009 at 3:29 am
#824 Valkyrie: Okay, so if we planted a few bombs and killed a few people, we would be heroes in your eyes? But what if the majority don’t want it? And also, what about facts? Don’t they count for anything? And what about the AWB? You haven’t answered that one, because according to you, they would be heroes fighting for a just cause, i.e. the minority imposing their will on the majority.
But just for you, my bigoted friend, a song by an Irish band who actually had to live through the bombs and the bullets. Read it and think for a moment before you make yourself more of a fool than you you already have.
Oh it must be so romantic
When the fighting’s over there
And they’re passing round the shamrock
And you’re all filled up with tears
“For the love of dear old Ireland”
That you’ve never even seen
You throw in twenty dollars
And sing “Wearing of the Green
[Chorus:]
Each dollar a bullet
Each victim someone’s son
And Americans kill Irishmen
As surely
As if they fired the gun
Now you’ve never stood on Belfast’s streets
And heard the bombs explode
Or hid beneath the blankets
When there’s riots down the road
No you’ve never had your best friend die
Or lost a favorite son
But you’ll stand there and tell us
Just what we’re doing wrong
Each false word a bullet
Each victim someone’s son
And Englishmen kill Irishmen
As surely
As if they fired the gun
From the minute that you’re born you’re told
To hate the other side
“They’re not like us, they’re not the same
We know because we’re right”
But can’t you see we’re all the same
There is no right and wrong
Why can’t we stop and realize
Just what we’re doing wrong
We’ve hated too much too long
Each old lie a bullet
Each victim someone’s son
And Irishmen kill Irishmen
As surely
As if they fired the gun
How can you convince yourself
That what you do is right?
When people are dying there
Night after night
Don’t you ever wonder
Why it still goes on?
The hopes and fears and all the tears
Are buried in your ground
Buried in your ground
Each rumour a bullet
Each victim someone’s son
And careless talk kills Irishmen
As surely
As if words fired the gun
Well it’s lasted for so long now
And so many have died
It’s such a part of my own life
Yet it leaves me mystified
How a people so intelligent
Friendly, kind and brave
Can throw themselves so willingly
Into an open grave
Each new day a bullet
Each victim someone’s son
And ignorance kills Irishmen
As surely
As if we fired the gun
November 7th, 2009 at 3:33 am
#821 JockBok:maybe
#818 AlanD:that was funny
#817 charo: oh come on charo, get over urself. You had a lekker evening with fellow bloggers, fine by me. But the additional it was so nice to be in an environment where you are not threatened & judged by the colour of your skin stuff is just low & unnecessary when people still need to organise groups to go watch a game @ loftus versveld to avoid being abused on their own! Don’t be so quick to offer the chips when your mate jockbock here was patting you on the back about how “free” and liberated you felt in the first african country to be liberated from colonialism…eish kuse kude engqinibeni!
November 7th, 2009 at 3:35 am
#823 skopskiet:
skoppie, it’s late for me (gmt) so it has to be very late for you.
#824 Valkyrie: mate, go to scotland and call the average jock a coward – there i dare you – maybe your cyber bravery will be exposed
#822 Transformation:
night transie – also time for you to hit the sack. come to west africa sometime and enjoy the local bands – you won’t be disappointed.
cheers jockbok – things to do tomorrow. travel safely back to lome. see you guys next time at my place
November 7th, 2009 at 3:37 am
#826 JockBok: barman….a dozen Guinness please
November 7th, 2009 at 3:38 am
#824 Valkyrie: You know, the funny thing is that I have voted for Independence many times, but have never felt the need to kill my fellow Scots who disagree with me. I have to accept that the majority don’t want it, and hopefully we can change their minds through debate and reason. The alternative is fascism and the result is terrorism. I’m surprised that a South African would support this path. Unless of course I’ve judged you wrong and you are indeed a member of the AWB???
November 7th, 2009 at 3:42 am
#827 Transformation:
lastly – you are far too cynical.
people here are not tainted with the sa thing – they have been doing their own thing for a long time now.
us oburonis are not seen as a threat – more a passport to a chance of emancipation – funnily enough.
November 7th, 2009 at 3:43 am
Keo will be so proud of you if he read all this **** on Sunday.
November 7th, 2009 at 3:46 am
#828 charo: cheers charo, i will be coming up to ghana soon, two of my mates who i met @ varsity & now are fellow professionals are from ghana, in kumasi & wineba…plus i’ve acquired the taste of the local food there like gari, shito, banku & jolof….
November 7th, 2009 at 3:48 am
#827 Transformation: Hopefully! And I started the comments about feeling ‘free’. It wasn’t meant to antagonise anyone, maybe just a comment which reflects my situation and my experience working in Togo. Maybe I now consider myself educated, maybe I now realise how much we have to do in SA to achieve the same levels. Maybe just a comment on how sick and tired I am of talking about race and not people.
#828 charo: Night Charo, thanks for a great evening and I’ll see you soon.
November 7th, 2009 at 3:49 am
I also find it somewhat ironic that some white European men find it not only amicable but also very appealing and satisfying to be able to enjoy the ambience and culture of a reasonably liberated black African society and civilization who strangely enough not very long ago were also under the choking dictatorial rule of their colonialist masters. What is even more ironic is that white men can enjoy themselves in black communities and cultures because they feel this sense of freedom and open instantaneous report of humanity in such environments yet black people can hardly ever if at all have similar feelings of freedom and open hearted responses within white communities and environments. Now ask yourself the million dollar question, who is in fact in essence the racist under such ironically obvious observations.? The black man or the white man, generally speaking of course? Its pretty obvious from where I take my viewpoint, not even a debate needs to be considered to spell out the obvious.
November 7th, 2009 at 3:50 am
#829 AlanD: Nice, but you can have the Guinness, I’ll have the Jamesons
November 7th, 2009 at 3:52 am
if=when
November 7th, 2009 at 3:54 am
#833 Transformation:
before i finally hit the sack.
kumasi (asante) is a great place – high in the hills and cool at night.
winneba is near cape coast – the area where the old university is and the slave castles – quite historic.
you will love it here.
November 7th, 2009 at 3:54 am
yeah its late, rather its early, and I.m also getting kinda tired now
So see you on the next shift
Dont be late
November 7th, 2009 at 3:58 am
#835 skopskiet: I’m not sure I get your point and I can’t see where the irony comes into it either. Simply put, I live in a country that resembles Khayaleitsha, but I can enter there and engage freely with anyone and everyone, whereas in Khayaleitsha, I would be rather scared. The point is, the rest of Africa is far more mature than South Africa, and it’s a wake up call experiencing it.
I took a friend, a black Togolese, to an Irish pub in Accra last night and he smiled from ear to ear all night, not shutting up about how he’d never been in such an environment where 99% of the people around him were white. So maybe you just need to move your reference point Skop, and stop judging everything from a South African point of view. It certainly helped me!
November 7th, 2009 at 4:04 am
#830 JockBok: i understand your problem down in scotland but the fact of the matter is that the majority of the irish supported the ira in their fight for freedom .you might consider them as a terror organisation but their people in 1916 saw them as freedom fighters.britain and america considerd the anc also as a terrorist organisation,nelson mandela was still a person non grata as per american legislation while into his presidency so what for you are terrorists are for others freedom fighter and heroes.good luck to your peaceful struggle for independence.
November 7th, 2009 at 4:05 am
Aw Valkyrie, have you gone? And I was so enjoying your reasoned debate.
November 7th, 2009 at 4:12 am
Whipped by Leicester…. Sis man!
November 7th, 2009 at 4:13 am
#841 Valkyrie: Excellent, you are still here. And coming up with a few good points too!!!
It appears we are arguing over different things. 1916 is a different kettle of dish altogether, and it would be hard to argue that the Irish were not justified in taking up arms to remove an unpopular colonial power. I’ll give you that one. Northern Ireland is another story however. And my people are not cowards my friend, apolitical and apathetic perhaps, but thankfully content to argue through a ballot box rather than using violence.
November 7th, 2009 at 4:16 am
#842 JockBok: out of here now.take it easy now and may the forces of peace be with you.
November 7th, 2009 at 4:17 am
precisely Jock bok it is a more mature openly respectful society because they haven’t been treated like down grade second class inferior citizens by a small minded insular fear ridden minority for a whole period of oppression through a whole series of generations subjected to such oppression. Why should we even have a Khyalitsha here when right across the road we have first world Somerset West with all the frills and first world trappings that come with it. Yet if you visit a Togonese household there you’d be made to feel most welcome and respected. Let a Togonese come visit the average white home in Somerset West for a reciprical bout of hospitality and check the fear and disdain that he’ll get subjected to. Get a load of the irony now? Catch my drift a little, or not quite yet?
Even a visit to the average Khyalitsha shack would result in more hospitality from the downtrodden poor to the upper crust white than the other way around even here. So again I ask the very simple question, who carries more resentment and racial intolerance towards his fellow man in general terms, the lowly humble black man or the privileged educated white? Answer don’t need rocket science to make the deduction.
November 7th, 2009 at 4:19 am
#845 Valkyrie: Thanks big boy. Be gentle with me next time.
November 7th, 2009 at 4:26 am
seems up there in Accra its the white man that is finally getting to terms with his inherent humanity and become civilized mingling with his fellow human associates. Down here its still largely you stay this side of the track and I’ll stay that side and never the twain shall meet, until they emigrate to Nz or Australia then they mingle like f.ng flies. Sies Tackler can say that again sies on you, chicken runner.
November 7th, 2009 at 4:28 am
definitely time for some shut eye now. Adios.
November 7th, 2009 at 4:37 am
#846 skopskiet: I catch your drift, but I’m not sure I agree with it mate. From a South African perspective, yes, I understand what you are saying, but there is fear, ignorance, and a lot of history involved in your example. A lot of water passed under the bridge, and from a black mans point of view, I can imagine it must be as intimidating going to a fancy Constantia house as it would be for me to go to Khayalitsha. I have been beofre, to a friends house, and I don’t mind telling you, I was scared. But it’s down to mistrust and ignorance, foisted on us for years by a government with a separatist agenda. And it’s too soon to change when the gulf between rich and poor is still largely associated in the minds as the gulf between black and white.
But comparing that to Togo requires a shift in mindset. It is desperately poor, yes, but the white/black situation has been replaced by have/have not’s. And the people I know and the contact I have had doesn’t compare because the same people are forced down by the people who replaced the colonialists, not a rich minority of whites. Rather a core of black politicians and businessmen who control the country and keep a hold through fear and AK47’s. This is their reference point and the people who control power, are their ‘whites’. I know they would be far more intimidated by visiting a fancy house owned by a rich black dude than they would coming to my place. I pose no threat to them, never have, and the colonialists are long gone so the colour of my skin doesn’t matter. But if I was the Minister of Energy, then it would be a different matter.
November 7th, 2009 at 4:39 am
#848 skopskiet: Exactly, you just said in two lines what I was trying to say in 200. Anyway, catch you later, time for some shut eye too.
November 7th, 2009 at 10:19 am
#846 skopskiet: Yes and there prolly are also more whites murdered and robbed here by blacks then Togonese murdered and robbed by whites in Togo.
November 7th, 2009 at 10:34 am
Leicester Tigers dished out lessons – a bitter pill (more like a suppository) but I hope South Africa take these lessons and learn…
November 7th, 2009 at 11:05 am
#805 Transformation:
“how verbose (I) can be…” ??!!!!
fella, my posts are like Dodos on a diet compared to yours !
November 8th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
not at all surprised, thought it would happen, even the next best in SA would struggle and they were not picked.
as per usual, our first XXII us far in front of their compatriots, but as per usual ppl judge our **** CC scrumming, which is no standard at all