Comments on: PdV to blame for Leicester disgrace

By: RaynoG

RaynoG — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 07:15:55 +0000

#388 Brentie1: No buts Brentie, and no crying shame if he hadn’t because he did.
On SuperRugby it was confirmed (not that we never knew) that Jake inherited his Springboks from Peter who was u21 coach at the time.
All Peter is doing is getting his old squad back.
In today’s Cape Times 13.11.09 John Smit: “Sadly, if you strip a lot of the criticism bare about Peter, you’ll find its racist. Unfortunately the old-school mentality that a black coach cant possibly be better than a white coach still lingers.”
The Springbok captain is basically labelling you all racists (not that we never knew) I guess we can expect calls for John Smit to be stripped from the captaincy and dropped from the team. So sad.
Peter’s got nothing to prove. He’s the best Bok coach our generation has seen.
Accept it and enjoy the success Peter has bestowed upon us…!

By: Cobusvj

Cobusvj — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 11:04:00 +0000

Ashley Johnson played well in other areas, but his performance (along with the flankers) during scrums was pitiful… that the locks and props didn’t give them a wake-up ‘klap’ and told them to scrum was a miracle! It was 5 vs 8 the whole time!!!

By: Taahirah

Taahirah — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 06:56:00 +0000

So John Smit says that 90% of criticism (especially the media)against PDV is coz of racists who cant except that a black coach knows more than a white one…
Any comments? Keo?

And that Luke Watson was a cancer within the Springboks…

hmmmmm…

By: Dunx

Dunx — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 06:10:07 +0000

well smit needs to be on the field and he was a brilliant hooker until they moved him, if he cant play all 80 mins let him come on in the 2nd half, the problem is that we dont have another player with experience who is a quality captain, matfield is leaving same time as smit and even he isn’t that gr8 we need to find a leader who is a quality player and leader we need to start looking at our loosies in sa as they make the best captains as they’re always at the font of the battle

By: wpw

wpw — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 05:16:14 +0000

#384 greatest13gerber:

I agree!!

Wynand Olivier should never represent the Boks again!!!

By: wpw

wpw — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 05:15:11 +0000

Was it not **** Muir who coached this midweek team??

Why is Div responsible??

Where were all the experienced players??

Wynand, Gurthro, Pienaar, Rossouw??

Why blame the players of colour if 90% of the team didn’t perform???

By: Brentie1

Brentie1 — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:40:27 +0000

385. Rayno
You are right,he did achieve that,but it would have been a crying shame if he hadn’t.He after all inherited the World Champions.
The fact is that he has not put a decent team on the park based solely on his and his co-selectors selection.

By: Kankowski.team

Kankowski.team — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 14:53:23 +0000

Bemoan the lack of practise and game time together, but the Dirttrackers that played friday night were a disgrace to the Springbok Jersey! If the Barbarians, who are a bunch of internationals who dont all speak the same language, can gel in a week why cant our “future” Springboks? Its a lack of talent and the incorrect selections… Shame on PDiv, **** and teh rest of the “Merit” Selection team….

By: The Dude

The Dude — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 09:31:44 +0000

Dont forget Jake lost Tour matches left right & centre before lifting a World Cup. I too had my doubts about Peter but the man deliverd. So no complaints from me…

By: Rayno

Rayno — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 05:55:31 +0000

This Grant Balls guy is talking testacles. After one experimental tour match he says -”PdV & **** are slowly but surely ruining what was once a promising career” The guy just delivered the B&I lions series, Trinations (including an All Black whitewash) and number 1 ranking in the world… Hello. Grant Balls has the memory of a Goldfish and PdV is our Fort Knox. Anyone for more humble pie…?

By: greatest13gerber

greatest13gerber — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 05:25:21 +0000

far too many quotass

Yes. Scrum absolute DISGRACE.

By: Bouts

Bouts — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:31:12 +0000

#364 Papoose: Really? Can’t remember anyone labeling Johnson a ‘quota’ player!

As I (and most other) predicted, the front row was pathetic. Cheetahs destroyed both Sharks and Bulls front row… and Jannie is 2nd choice over there! Both of them should never have left the prop factory (FS)… their skills have dropped to something laughable!

Wian’s on his way to Europe already… make the call, and get WP Nel there as well, and a true captain in Adrian Strauss.

By: AndrewBK

AndrewBK — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 19:39:08 +0000

i have one last post regarding this game. if we look back on some of the great tours of the UK and Ireland in the past, such as the grand slam winning Aussies in 1984 and the All Blacks in 1978, you will notice that they too lost to club sides. does this make them “a disgrace?” in fact, the Aussie side of 1984 is recongnised as one of the best ever. yet they lost 4 (count em) games to club sides… so lets stop being pathetic and using this as a platform to attack PDV who thus far this year has not let us down in the international area. post over.

By: Mbhubesi

Mbhubesi — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 19:05:14 +0000

PDV is succumbing to pressure from higher authorities, to put more players of colour in the Bok team. The thing is though, he not being as vocal against it as Jake White was!

On the other hand, the Bok midweek team were terrible last night. The talent was there, but the players never showed up. So I think PDV should not be solely to blame for last night. Steenkamp, Jannie, Rossouw, PIENAAR… all seasoned Bok players had poor games.

I think Chilliboy should spend a year out of the Bok fold, and Maku to move to the Lions, then possibly it could be seen whether they really are potentially international class. Raubenheimer was a victim of a lack of transformation in the junior levels. An excellent prospect as a junior, he has taken a worse dive than Chilliboy at senior level. Because there is such little transformation in the period between junior level rugby and senior level rugby, we are seeing PDV having to enforce it within the Springboks! Things much change in this respect in SA rugby!

By: SpringbokSarah

SpringbokSarah — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 18:08:02 +0000

What? Not Luke Watson?

By: The Bill

The Bill — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:13:38 +0000

what does / did **** Muir do? Can someone show me the value he brings as a bok backline coach?

Unless he does defence as well, he provide sweet F all on attack. Last 5 minutes, the players did not even have the guts or confidence to send the ball wide. That is as shameful as the scruming effort. It might even be worse because at least you can hold your hand up & say well done Castro Giavani.

By: catleya

catleya — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 16:21:12 +0000

#375 sharks_lover: Yes, 5 times he secured ball at a ruck/maul/scrum/lineout/spilt ball situation which had been in the other team's possession untill then, so I guess you missed some. And yes Pottie lost one ball he took into a ruck, but so did Danie (2) and Deysel(2, not one.) And Pottie missed one tackle where there was obstruction from a scrum by the Tigers flanker, resulting in the scrummy making good ground, but that was due to obstruction. and then there was one instance where the Tigers win ger stepped inside some four meters before the tackle , so he was cut off from his outside support and forced inside by Pottie where the support on the inside tackled him. So technically it was not a missed tackle. My friend, you will never sell Deysel to me as a 7 flanker for the Boks. Go look at Rugby 365. I am not the only one who sees what it see. Let's rather agree to disagree and leave it be on this note. Maybe you should explain why the Sharks have put feelers out to him long before the Alberts option came up.

By: sharkteeth

sharkteeth — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 16:17:20 +0000

#370 Objective 101: how can say rose was bad when he set up the only try w scored ofthe nigt ,he was far better than any 1 could have expected and out of all the backs looked possbley the best -potgieter imo was very ordinary ,trid hard but had very litle efect -deysel and johnson where the only forwards worth a mention-potgieter overated,just to small #363 catleya: turnverswon ?5 no ways man never !thats rubish we had no possesion -5 turn overs lol ,maybe ure being biast -when they had a knock on and he picked it up ,that doesnt count ey

By: Papoose

Papoose — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 15:37:06 +0000

#370 Objective how can you say Rose was abysmal? He gets a lot of stick, some deserved. But he didn’t play badly and was one of the few backs who showed any imagination last night, he did get caught out of position a couple of times though

By: sharks_lover

sharks_lover — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 15:20:32 +0000

#363 catleya: catleya pottie 5 turn overs??

what you been smoking mate??

we only won 2 turn overs all night which happened in the first 10 min of the game

its not about potgieter bashing

go watch with unbiased eyes and watch all of his play

you will also see him lose a ball in the rucks , just like deysel lost one and rossouw 2