Comments on: CJ fated to carry front row http://www.keo.co.za/2009/11/11/cj-fated-to-carry-front-row/ An independent look at South African rugby Thu, 18 Mar 2010 01:44:20 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: David http://www.keo.co.za/2009/11/11/cj-fated-to-carry-front-row/#comment-1458428 David Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:09:18 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=46357#comment-1458428 #<a href="#comment-1458398" rel="nofollow">247 Hondo</a>: Do you know what you're talking about? So long as SA field their top 150 players, SARU can do whatever they like to the identity of the teams. #247 Hondo:
Do you know what you’re talking about? So long as SA field their top 150 players, SARU can do whatever they like to the identity of the teams.

]]> By: Hondo http://www.keo.co.za/2009/11/11/cj-fated-to-carry-front-row/#comment-1458398 Hondo Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:21:01 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=46357#comment-1458398 #<a href="#comment-1458393" rel="nofollow">244 gray</a>: Any change will need the approval of the ANZAR Partners And the big money sponsors There will be a lot of 3rd world rethoric in the next few days to hear but my guess the TV sponsors will not agree to a further diluting of the competition, i.e: the Kings to replace the Cheetahs Someone already tried it before #244 gray:
Any change will need the approval of the ANZAR Partners
And the big money sponsors
There will be a lot of 3rd world rethoric in the next few days to hear but my guess the TV sponsors will not agree to a further diluting of the competition, i.e: the Kings to replace the Cheetahs
Someone already tried it before

]]> By: skopskiet http://www.keo.co.za/2009/11/11/cj-fated-to-carry-front-row/#comment-1458396 skopskiet Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:20:22 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=46357#comment-1458396 so after all this debate and consternation about achilles heels in front rows and inside centers and full backs, not to mention 8th men, what everybody going to cry about if we lose? Who's gonna catch the chop if in spite of all the snot n trane, all the re treading of front rows, full backs, centers and 8th men, we still come a cropper, then who gonna get it in the neck. Well your guess is as good as mind. . . Right? so after all this debate and consternation about achilles heels in front rows and inside centers and full backs, not to mention 8th men, what everybody going to cry about if we lose? Who’s gonna catch the chop if in spite of all the snot n trane, all the re treading of front rows, full backs, centers and 8th men, we still come a cropper, then who gonna get it in the neck.

Well your guess is as good as mind. . . Right?

]]> By: Hondo http://www.keo.co.za/2009/11/11/cj-fated-to-carry-front-row/#comment-1458395 Hondo Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:15:30 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=46357#comment-1458395 The French will drill the starting Boks' front row, even the fumes loaded head of FdV suddenly realised it And then they have Marconnet and Swerzsky on the bench. Wayne Barens is a good technical referee imo, if the Boks scrum faltered as many expected, the bench front row will have to be hurried on, question is how soon will take place the demolition job by the French. Another issue is that Botha is not playing more than 50 minutes and without him the Boks scrum not the same. The French will drill the starting Boks’ front row, even the fumes loaded head of FdV suddenly realised it
And then they have Marconnet and Swerzsky on the bench.
Wayne Barens is a good technical referee imo, if the Boks scrum faltered as many expected, the bench front row will have to be hurried on, question is how soon will take place the demolition job by the French.
Another issue is that Botha is not playing more than 50 minutes and without him the Boks scrum not the same.

]]> By: gray http://www.keo.co.za/2009/11/11/cj-fated-to-carry-front-row/#comment-1458393 gray Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:09:07 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=46357#comment-1458393 True. No surprize. But would have been very good for SA rugby imo.Now there will probably be alot of infighting. SARU promised kings will play. One of the other unions will most likely have to go. Truely Sorry. True. No surprize. But would have been very good for SA rugby imo.Now there will probably be alot of infighting. SARU promised kings will play. One of the other unions will most likely have to go. Truely Sorry.

]]> By: Transformation http://www.keo.co.za/2009/11/11/cj-fated-to-carry-front-row/#comment-1458392 Transformation Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:03:20 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=46357#comment-1458392 #<a href="#comment-1458389" rel="nofollow">241 gray</a>: that's no suprise... #241 gray: that’s no suprise…

]]> By: David http://www.keo.co.za/2009/11/11/cj-fated-to-carry-front-row/#comment-1458391 David Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:01:26 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=46357#comment-1458391 #<a href="#comment-1458389" rel="nofollow">241 gray</a>: What a surprise. :roll: So now SARU have got to finally make some tough decisions. #241 gray:
What a surprise. :roll:
So now SARU have got to finally make some tough decisions.

]]> By: gray http://www.keo.co.za/2009/11/11/cj-fated-to-carry-front-row/#comment-1458389 gray Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:58:38 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=46357#comment-1458389 Kings lost bid. Kings lost bid.

]]> By: justrugby http://www.keo.co.za/2009/11/11/cj-fated-to-carry-front-row/#comment-1458387 justrugby Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:53:03 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=46357#comment-1458387 #<a href="#comment-1458373" rel="nofollow">239 David</a>: Spot on David !! #239 David:

Spot on David !!

]]> By: David http://www.keo.co.za/2009/11/11/cj-fated-to-carry-front-row/#comment-1458373 David Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:33:37 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=46357#comment-1458373 #<a href="#comment-1458348" rel="nofollow">238 justrugby</a>: JS should rather have moved to LH tha TH. The only problem was Beast. Even before the WC Regan Hoskins reckoned that was his best position. I think the fact that he'd played TH at Claremont and we were short of a TH influenced the decision. #238 justrugby:
JS should rather have moved to LH tha TH. The only problem was Beast. Even before the WC Regan Hoskins reckoned that was his best position. I think the fact that he’d played TH at Claremont and we were short of a TH influenced the decision.

]]> By: justrugby http://www.keo.co.za/2009/11/11/cj-fated-to-carry-front-row/#comment-1458348 justrugby Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:08:12 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=46357#comment-1458348 #<a href="#comment-1458344" rel="nofollow">236 sharks_lover</a>: No one has ever doubted his qualities as a leader and as a person.....he is phenomenal. The question is purely around his technique/ability as a TH, nothing more nothing less !! I also believe it is an unhealthy situation to have the side so dependent on one persons ability to lead the side. JS the man..... his ability at 2, the leader and gentleman has never been disputed !! #236 sharks_lover:

No one has ever doubted his qualities as a leader and as a person…..he is phenomenal.

The question is purely around his technique/ability as a TH, nothing more nothing less !!

I also believe it is an unhealthy situation to have the side so dependent on one persons ability to lead the side.

JS the man….. his ability at 2, the leader and gentleman has never been disputed !!

]]> By: china http://www.keo.co.za/2009/11/11/cj-fated-to-carry-front-row/#comment-1458347 china Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:07:17 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=46357#comment-1458347 #<a href="#comment-1458344" rel="nofollow">237 sharks_lover</a>: love your work. smit has earned respect..and especialy from people who live their lives angry - either liking or disliking everything they see...who the sooner they realise..to accept most things just how they are ...will live a richer life. A suicide bomber runs in t a shop and yells, "you"ve all got 30 seconds to get out!!", the tortoise at the back of the shop shouts, you C*****NT!!. sorry still dronk #237 sharks_lover: love your work. smit has earned respect..and especialy from people who live their lives angry – either liking or disliking everything they see…who the sooner they realise..to accept most things just how they are …will live a richer life.
A suicide bomber runs in t a shop and yells, “you”ve all got 30 seconds to get out!!”, the tortoise at the back of the shop shouts, you C*****NT!!.

sorry still dronk

]]> By: sharks_lover http://www.keo.co.za/2009/11/11/cj-fated-to-carry-front-row/#comment-1458344 sharks_lover Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:54:58 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=46357#comment-1458344 just a something for some of those that have no idea what smitty means to the bok team and this comes from a player and he aint a shark Select Region FixturesResultsTest match (Kick-off is GMT) Friday, November 13: Wales v Samoa (19.30) France v SA (19.45) Saturday, November 14: Italy v NZ (14.00) England v Argentina (14.30) Scotland v Fiji (14.30) Sunday, November 15: Ireland v Australia (15.00) LIVE COVERAGE more Fixtures TestsSaturday, November 7: England 9-18 Australia Wales 12-19 New Zealand Air NZ CupFinal: Saturday, November 7: Canterbury 28-20 Wellington Tour MatchFriday, Nov 6: Leicester 22-17 SA Currie CupFinal: Saturday, October 31: Blue Bulls 36-24 FS Cheetahs LIVE COVERAGE more Results Newsletter Unsubscribe South AfricaNews | Profile | Anthem | Fixtures | Results | Habana: 'What Smit means to the Boks' Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:46 Bok flyer: Bryan Habana and his mentor Peter de Villiers The world of rugby will only truly appreciate the value of Springbok captain John Smit once he retires. This, along with other plaudits heaped on Smit and Bok coach Peter de Villiers come from record-breaking wing Bryan Habana in the third and final instalment of his chat with rugby365.com editor Jan de Koning. (For Habana's views on his much talked-about move to Cape Town, CLICK HERE, or get his thoughts on the Boks' year-end tour by CLICKING HERE.) Habana regards it as a privilege to have been mentored by De Villiers, while Smit he regards as a "very special person". "The results [of the Bok team] in itself probably say what they mean to the team," said Habana about his coach and captain. "For me, personally, I have had a relationship with Peter [de Villiers] since 2004, when he was my Under-21 coach and we [South Africa U21] went to Scotland," the 26-year-old Bok flyer added. "What I have been able to learn from Peter, not only on the field, but off it as well, the relationship I have been able to build with him over the last five years has been special. "When I first became a Springbok [in 2004] he was one of the first guys I SMS'd; to give him a call and have a chat to him about all of it. He is a fantastic person." Habana feels that the Bok coach's strong principles have also contributed to the success of the team. "He really stands by what he believes in and that lends itself to the success of where the Springboks are at the moment," said the new WP signing. "I am very fortunate and privileged that he has always backed me - when he could easily have let me go or not picked me. "I've been privileged to have been part of his plans and I really do owe him a lot to where I am now as a rugby player. I really am appreciative to what he has been able to lend, not only as a coach, but as a person as well." Habana said Smit - the captain, player and person - has been a success in every team he has been involved in. "I don't even know where to start with John [Smit]," he told rugby365.com. "The world of rugby will only fully understand what John Smit has meant to the Springbok side when he hangs up his boots one day. "I've been able to become a friend with John off the field as well. The other day he was on his way to Pretoria Boys [High School, Smit's alma mater] and we had about a 20 minute chat just about life. "John is a fantastic person and the way he has been able to bring this side together is great. It is not the easiest thing to bring a Springbok side together - where you have players from different unions, players from different cultural backgrounds, different diversities, to bring them together, to form success," added Habana. "The way John has been able [to do that], since 2004, is probably something that not many people would have been able to do. "He has been through four Springboks coaches [Harry Viljoen, Rudolf Straeuli, Jake White and Peter de Villiers]. Throughout his reign [as captain] he has been able to be succesful. "The reason why he is the most capped Test captain of all time is because he has values and principles that he lends towards the success of any team that he is involved in. "You look at the Sharks, their success - getting close to winning the Super 14, winning the Currie Cup last year. "He is a fantastic guy off the field, probably one of the most well-spoken players you will get in world rugby. "I definitely take my hat off to both of them [De Villiers and Smit]," Habana concluded. * For Habana's full bio, CLICK HERE! just a something for some of those that have no idea what smitty means to the bok team

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Habana: ‘What Smit means to the Boks’
Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:46

Bok flyer: Bryan Habana and his mentor Peter de Villiers

The world of rugby will only truly appreciate the value of Springbok captain John Smit once he retires.

This, along with other plaudits heaped on Smit and Bok coach Peter de Villiers come from record-breaking wing Bryan Habana in the third and final instalment of his chat with rugby365.com editor Jan de Koning.

(For Habana’s views on his much talked-about move to Cape Town, CLICK HERE, or get his thoughts on the Boks’ year-end tour by CLICKING HERE.)

Habana regards it as a privilege to have been mentored by De Villiers, while Smit he regards as a “very special person”.

“The results [of the Bok team] in itself probably say what they mean to the team,” said Habana about his coach and captain.

“For me, personally, I have had a relationship with Peter [de Villiers] since 2004, when he was my Under-21 coach and we [South Africa U21] went to Scotland,” the 26-year-old Bok flyer added.

“What I have been able to learn from Peter, not only on the field, but off it as well, the relationship I have been able to build with him over the last five years has been special.

“When I first became a Springbok [in 2004] he was one of the first guys I SMS’d; to give him a call and have a chat to him about all of it. He is a fantastic person.”

Habana feels that the Bok coach’s strong principles have also contributed to the success of the team.

“He really stands by what he believes in and that lends itself to the success of where the Springboks are at the moment,” said the new WP signing.

“I am very fortunate and privileged that he has always backed me – when he could easily have let me go or not picked me.

“I’ve been privileged to have been part of his plans and I really do owe him a lot to where I am now as a rugby player. I really am appreciative to what he has been able to lend, not only as a coach, but as a person as well.”

Habana said Smit – the captain, player and person – has been a success in every team he has been involved in.

“I don’t even know where to start with John [Smit],” he told rugby365.com.

“The world of rugby will only fully understand what John Smit has meant to the Springbok side when he hangs up his boots one day.

“I’ve been able to become a friend with John off the field as well. The other day he was on his way to Pretoria Boys [High School, Smit's alma mater] and we had about a 20 minute chat just about life.

“John is a fantastic person and the way he has been able to bring this side together is great. It is not the easiest thing to bring a Springbok side together – where you have players from different unions, players from different cultural backgrounds, different diversities, to bring them together, to form success,” added Habana.

“The way John has been able [to do that], since 2004, is probably something that not many people would have been able to do.

“He has been through four Springboks coaches [Harry Viljoen, Rudolf Straeuli, Jake White and Peter de Villiers]. Throughout his reign [as captain] he has been able to be succesful.

“The reason why he is the most capped Test captain of all time is because he has values and principles that he lends towards the success of any team that he is involved in.

“You look at the Sharks, their success – getting close to winning the Super 14, winning the Currie Cup last year.

“He is a fantastic guy off the field, probably one of the most well-spoken players you will get in world rugby.

“I definitely take my hat off to both of them [De Villiers and Smit],” Habana concluded.

* For Habana’s full bio, CLICK HERE!

]]> By: china http://www.keo.co.za/2009/11/11/cj-fated-to-carry-front-row/#comment-1458341 china Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:52:35 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=46357#comment-1458341 a tip... never wash your windows with a half-brick a tip… never wash your windows with a half-brick

]]> By: Amerifikaner http://www.keo.co.za/2009/11/11/cj-fated-to-carry-front-row/#comment-1458339 Amerifikaner Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:46:44 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=46357#comment-1458339 Does anyone know what time this game starts? It is not being broadcast in the US and I want to get it on Justin.tv maybe? Does anyone know what time this game starts? It is not being broadcast in the US and I want to get it on Justin.tv maybe?

]]> By: china http://www.keo.co.za/2009/11/11/cj-fated-to-carry-front-row/#comment-1458338 china Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:46:17 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=46357#comment-1458338 oke walks in to a shop and says, "can I have a kitkat chunky", the lady at the shop reaches back and puts a kitkat chunky on the counter. the oke says, "I wanted a normal kitkat you fat b*tch!" salt..pinch oke walks in to a shop and says, “can I have a kitkat chunky”, the lady at the shop reaches back and puts a kitkat chunky on the counter. the oke says, “I wanted a normal kitkat you fat b*tch!”

salt..pinch

]]> By: china http://www.keo.co.za/2009/11/11/cj-fated-to-carry-front-row/#comment-1458333 china Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:42:14 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=46357#comment-1458333 just won a motza online playing the GGs in the UK from a laptop in Aus.stoked ekse cause I had no idea what I was doing. as much analyzing you okes do this game is going to be a cracker with the "french as favourites". ok I'm lekker dronk but BAKKIES YOU BEAUTY THIS IS YOUR GAME CHINA! ffffuck I'm so proud of the bokke at the moment...sooo much o tlak about and while we're winning. I love red fire engines and kiff racks.swallow my knob just won a motza online playing the GGs in the UK from a laptop in Aus.stoked ekse cause I had no idea what I was doing. as much analyzing you okes do this game is going to be a cracker with the “french as favourites”. ok I’m lekker dronk but BAKKIES YOU BEAUTY THIS IS YOUR GAME CHINA! ffffuck I’m so proud of the bokke at the moment…sooo much o tlak about and while we’re winning. I love red fire engines and kiff racks.swallow my knob

]]> By: Die_Valk http://www.keo.co.za/2009/11/11/cj-fated-to-carry-front-row/#comment-1458330 Die_Valk Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:31:20 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=46357#comment-1458330 PdV's front row has never had a tougher test. Make or break time for them as a unit. Kanko has never impressed me in the tight, physical match-ups and we will miss Jean's ability to make something out of nothing. Zane is a risk, not to say anything about Adi. Burger must stay disciplined. I hope to see a few Chabal monster tackles and runs. :) PdV’s front row has never had a tougher test. Make or break time for them as a unit. Kanko has never impressed me in the tight, physical match-ups and we will miss Jean’s ability to make something out of nothing. Zane is a risk, not to say anything about Adi. Burger must stay disciplined. I hope to see a few Chabal monster tackles and runs. :)

]]> By: bolandboy http://www.keo.co.za/2009/11/11/cj-fated-to-carry-front-row/#comment-1458259 bolandboy Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:25:17 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=46357#comment-1458259 #<a href="#comment-1458257" rel="nofollow">230 Valkyrie</a>: one dymensonal ;) #230 Valkyrie: one dymensonal ;)

]]> By: Valkyrie http://www.keo.co.za/2009/11/11/cj-fated-to-carry-front-row/#comment-1458257 Valkyrie Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:23:24 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=46357#comment-1458257 can't wait for friday!just hope that the wp/stormer winger gets enough ball,but with the one-dimensional blue bull flyhalf it probably won't happen. can’t wait for friday!just hope that the wp/stormer winger gets enough ball,but with the one-dimensional blue bull flyhalf it probably won’t happen.

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