Comments on: Improved Proteas down Zim http://www.keo.co.za/2009/11/11/improved-proteas-down-zim/ An independent look at South African rugby Thu, 09 Feb 2012 14:33:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: carol http://www.keo.co.za/2009/11/11/improved-proteas-down-zim/#comment-1469249 carol Sun, 22 Nov 2009 21:47:47 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=46376#comment-1469249 Can't complain Roy, winter does bring a few benefits....eg: rugby. I saw the Boks play Saracens last Tuesday...ouch.. Monty OK? Can’t complain Roy, winter does bring a few benefits….eg: rugby. I saw the Boks play Saracens last Tuesday…ouch..

Monty OK?

]]> By: Roy http://www.keo.co.za/2009/11/11/improved-proteas-down-zim/#comment-1469248 Roy Sun, 22 Nov 2009 21:41:00 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=46376#comment-1469248 Hi Carol - all well your side? Hi Carol – all well your side?

]]> By: carol http://www.keo.co.za/2009/11/11/improved-proteas-down-zim/#comment-1469247 carol Sun, 22 Nov 2009 21:36:09 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=46376#comment-1469247 56. Roy, are you looking for your reply button?? :lol: Saw you and just had to say 'Hi'...you OK ? 56. Roy, are you looking for your reply button?? :lol:

Saw you and just had to say ‘Hi’…you OK ?

]]> By: Roy http://www.keo.co.za/2009/11/11/improved-proteas-down-zim/#comment-1469246 Roy Sun, 22 Nov 2009 21:33:52 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=46376#comment-1469246 just a test just a test

]]> By: WP_ http://www.keo.co.za/2009/11/11/improved-proteas-down-zim/#comment-1459505 WP_ Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:56:48 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=46376#comment-1459505 Ya Hashim did score a few tons a few years ago. Big ones too against NZ. But agreed he hasnt shown that temperament in a while. Against the Aussies he got some 50's and 60's but you're right no biggies... But I have confidence in him, he's got loads of talent and he's got a good head on his shoulders and there's no reason why he cant a great Ya Hashim did score a few tons a few years ago. Big ones too against NZ. But agreed he hasnt shown that temperament in a while. Against the Aussies he got some 50′s and 60′s but you’re right no biggies…

But I have confidence in him, he’s got loads of talent and he’s got a good head on his shoulders and there’s no reason why he cant a great

]]> By: Die_Valk http://www.keo.co.za/2009/11/11/improved-proteas-down-zim/#comment-1459418 Die_Valk Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:27:52 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=46376#comment-1459418 #53, Hasim needs to sort out his temperament. It's like watching the old AB. A lot of pretty little knocks, but rarely a ton. #53,

Hasim needs to sort out his temperament. It’s like watching the old AB.

A lot of pretty little knocks, but rarely a ton.

]]> By: WP_ http://www.keo.co.za/2009/11/11/improved-proteas-down-zim/#comment-1458430 WP_ Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:11:13 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=46376#comment-1458430 51 Die Valk I agree with nearly everything you said there! I've said similar things in the past. Very astute analysis. You sound like someone who knows their cricket. Good on ya. :) Kallis has got everything, he's just superb in all formats. Must be one of the best all rounders of all time, if not the best. And when he's on form with the bat in hand, there's no one better to watch in terms of pure cricket shots and technical brilliance. Every shot looks like a page out of the coaching manual. Such a treat to watch. Exciting times lie ahead with youngsters of the calibre of AB and JP who will be around for a long time. It will be scary for opposition bowling attacks in future with these two coming in at 3 and 4 when in their prime. Not forgetting Hashim Amla, we have a great future ahead. Agreed, JP must not be put under too much pressure just yet as he still learning in the Test frame but if he sorts out those technical deficiencies you alluded too there is no reason why he cant be one of the best of the players on the planet. 51 Die Valk

I agree with nearly everything you said there! I’ve said similar things in the past. Very astute analysis.

You sound like someone who knows their cricket. Good on ya. :)

Kallis has got everything, he’s just superb in all formats. Must be one of the best all rounders of all time, if not the best. And when he’s on form with the bat in hand, there’s no one better to watch in terms of pure cricket shots and technical brilliance. Every shot looks like a page out of the coaching manual. Such a treat to watch.

Exciting times lie ahead with youngsters of the calibre of AB and JP who will be around for a long time.

It will be scary for opposition bowling attacks in future with these two coming in at 3 and 4 when in their prime. Not forgetting Hashim Amla, we have a great future ahead.

Agreed, JP must not be put under too much pressure just yet as he still learning in the Test frame but if he sorts out those technical deficiencies you alluded too there is no reason why he cant be one of the best of the players on the planet.

]]> By: Die_Valk http://www.keo.co.za/2009/11/11/improved-proteas-down-zim/#comment-1458280 Die_Valk Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:47:52 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=46376#comment-1458280 Long live test cricket. And sleepless nights while watching the convicts getting done on their own back-yard!!! Long live test cricket. And sleepless nights while watching the convicts getting done on their own back-yard!!!

]]> By: Die_Valk http://www.keo.co.za/2009/11/11/improved-proteas-down-zim/#comment-1458276 Die_Valk Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:43:22 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=46376#comment-1458276 JP is undeniably the most talented batsman since AB to break through the ranks, but let's not put too much pressure on him. He's had a fantastic tour of Australia, but he does have a few notable weaknesses, like the short ball, which was exploited by the Aussies on the return tour. I know he has the temperament to be a long-term success like Kallis, but he's played oly 6 tests so far. A little perspective is needed. I love our tours to Australia, their grounds look unreal on camera. Almost as if it's animated. People still whining about Kallis' run rate are exposing their own lack of knowledge of the game. There have been better batsmen and bowlers than Kallis, but combine his bowling, slip-catching and batting and we are blessed with of the best players to ever play the game. How good was his second catch!? Brings back memories of Brain McMillan. JP is undeniably the most talented batsman since AB to break through the ranks, but let’s not put too much pressure on him.

He’s had a fantastic tour of Australia, but he does have a few notable weaknesses, like the short ball, which was exploited by the Aussies on the return tour. I know he has the temperament to be a long-term success like Kallis, but he’s played oly 6 tests so far. A little perspective is needed.

I love our tours to Australia, their grounds look unreal on camera. Almost as if it’s animated.

People still whining about Kallis’ run rate are exposing their own lack of knowledge of the game.

There have been better batsmen and bowlers than Kallis, but combine his bowling, slip-catching and batting and we are blessed with of the best players to ever play the game. How good was his second catch!? Brings back memories of Brain McMillan.

]]> By: gunther http://www.keo.co.za/2009/11/11/improved-proteas-down-zim/#comment-1457968 gunther Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:05:19 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=46376#comment-1457968 #<a href="#comment-1457890" rel="nofollow">46 flanka</a>: chill tiger we were talking about players with souh african connections... #46 flanka:

chill tiger we were talking about players with souh african connections…

]]> By: gecko http://www.keo.co.za/2009/11/11/improved-proteas-down-zim/#comment-1457931 gecko Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:46:42 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=46376#comment-1457931 The Kolpak rulings have changed, and nearly all the players lost their contract. The one expection - Rudolph. Allows him to stay, and then qualify. The Kolpak rulings have changed, and nearly all the players lost their contract. The one expection – Rudolph. Allows him to stay, and then qualify.

]]> By: WP_ http://www.keo.co.za/2009/11/11/improved-proteas-down-zim/#comment-1457923 WP_ Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:41:57 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=46376#comment-1457923 Ya he's been in great form over there and now here for the Titans in the MTN40 has Rudolph. He did get messed around here but hopefully he'll get another chance for the Proteas. I know that's complicated with his Kolpak deal. It would be very sad to see him playing for England however after his 30 odd tests for us. Ya he’s been in great form over there and now here for the Titans in the MTN40 has Rudolph.

He did get messed around here but hopefully he’ll get another chance for the Proteas. I know that’s complicated with his Kolpak deal.

It would be very sad to see him playing for England however after his 30 odd tests for us.

]]> By: gecko http://www.keo.co.za/2009/11/11/improved-proteas-down-zim/#comment-1457900 gecko Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:30:19 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=46376#comment-1457900 Ja not sure what is going on with Rudolph. He score heavily, and he qualifies next year. Can't really blame him with his first two test selection (India non-test game) and Oz (Ontong affair). If England picks him, I hope he averages 1.5. Ja not sure what is going on with Rudolph. He score heavily, and he qualifies next year. Can’t really blame him with his first two test selection (India non-test game) and Oz (Ontong affair). If England picks him, I hope he averages 1.5.

]]> By: flanka http://www.keo.co.za/2009/11/11/improved-proteas-down-zim/#comment-1457890 flanka Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:23:35 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=46376#comment-1457890 #<a href="#comment-1457867" rel="nofollow">41 gunther</a>: andy flower moved to zim when he was like 1 month old so u can hardly say he has any ties to south african cricket, besides...his own country are the one's that need his help bad by the look of things! #41 gunther: andy flower moved to zim when he was like 1 month old so u can hardly say he has any ties to south african cricket, besides…his own country are the one’s that need his help bad by the look of things!

]]> By: WP_ http://www.keo.co.za/2009/11/11/improved-proteas-down-zim/#comment-1457889 WP_ Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:23:33 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=46376#comment-1457889 There are rumours that Jacques Rudolph will be picked for the Poms as soon as he qualifies in about a year I think. Hope he doesnt take them up on it. There are rumours that Jacques Rudolph will be picked for the Poms as soon as he qualifies in about a year I think.

Hope he doesnt take them up on it.

]]> By: Puma http://www.keo.co.za/2009/11/11/improved-proteas-down-zim/#comment-1457884 Puma Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:19:24 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=46376#comment-1457884 #<a href="#comment-1457873" rel="nofollow">42 gecko</a>: Soon the whole 11 will be saffas playing in a England jersey? :roll: :lol: Have to have a laugh but we are losing a lot of saffas everywhere not just in sport. Sad really but it will happen even more. Watch eventually Oz will have as many saffas in their rugby team. Think they will start to scout here from our schools. Get them over there while still young. Really cant see how they will fill another franchise in the S14. They just don't have enough players. #42 gecko: Soon the whole 11 will be saffas playing in a England jersey? :roll: :lol: Have to have a laugh but we are losing a lot of saffas everywhere not just in sport. Sad really but it will happen even more.

Watch eventually Oz will have as many saffas in their rugby team. Think they will start to scout here from our schools. Get them over there while still young. Really cant see how they will fill another franchise in the S14. They just don’t have enough players.

]]> By: gecko http://www.keo.co.za/2009/11/11/improved-proteas-down-zim/#comment-1457876 gecko Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:16:32 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=46376#comment-1457876 And you can add Chris Jordan - young fast bowler from West Indies they are grooming to play for England. And you can add Chris Jordan – young fast bowler from West Indies they are grooming to play for England.

]]> By: gecko http://www.keo.co.za/2009/11/11/improved-proteas-down-zim/#comment-1457873 gecko Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:14:18 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=46376#comment-1457873 There are 4, Strauss (left SA when 6, emigrated to Oz, parents lasted one year then moved to UK), Prior (English mom, left for UK when +/- 13, Pietersen & Trott (SA u/19)). Apart from that, they have Craig Kieswetter (SA u/19) in their performance squad - and he only qualifies for England next year. They have Stephen Moore playing for England A and they have Dawid Malan (born in UK while his dad was playing cricket here, but grew up in WP, playing for WP schools) in their performance squad. There is one more batsman nearly qualified for England, but his name escapes me now. There are 4, Strauss (left SA when 6, emigrated to Oz, parents lasted one year then moved to UK), Prior (English mom, left for UK when +/- 13, Pietersen & Trott (SA u/19)). Apart from that, they have Craig Kieswetter (SA u/19) in their performance squad – and he only qualifies for England next year. They have Stephen Moore playing for England A and they have Dawid Malan (born in UK while his dad was playing cricket here, but grew up in WP, playing for WP schools) in their performance squad.

There is one more batsman nearly qualified for England, but his name escapes me now.

]]> By: gunther http://www.keo.co.za/2009/11/11/improved-proteas-down-zim/#comment-1457867 gunther Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:11:39 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=46376#comment-1457867 not to mention coach andy flower...who was born in cape town... also if they had heir way alan donald would have been their bowling coach.... not to mention coach andy flower…who was born in cape town… also if they had heir way alan donald would have been their bowling coach….

]]> By: Puma http://www.keo.co.za/2009/11/11/improved-proteas-down-zim/#comment-1457853 Puma Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:01:12 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=46376#comment-1457853 #<a href="#comment-1457836" rel="nofollow">38 Lions_Soutie</a>: That is the only thing that worries me. Not game fit. In the Pro/20/odi maybe but not tests. #<a href="#comment-1457837" rel="nofollow">39 gecko</a>: There seems to be plenty of saffas in that England side. #38 Lions_Soutie: That is the only thing that worries me. Not game fit. In the Pro/20/odi maybe but not tests.

#39 gecko: There seems to be plenty of saffas in that England side.

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