Steyn backs a marked man
12 Nov 2009
Morné Steyn has scoffed at the widely held perception that Adi Jacobs is a defensive liability.
Jacobs has an opportunity to establish himself in the starting line-up in light of Jean de Villiers’s decision to join Munster, effectively ruling himself out of contention for selection.
However, while the 29-year-old’s prowess on attack is well known, it’s his defensive capabilities that continue to be questioned. Those concerns are now amplified with him starting in the defensively demanding position of inside centre.
The French coaching staff and players have made not-so-veiled suggestions that they plan to target Jacobs, who they seem to perceive as defensively vulnerable.
The British & Irish Lions’ midfield pair of Jamie Roberts and Brian O’Driscoll consciously attacked the diminutive (by international standards) Jacobs during the Test series in mid year, and while it would be unfair to say they profited greatly from that avenue of attack, Jacobs was hardly imposing at the tackle point, which allowed them to offload in contact and in so doing ensure continuity on attack.
France’s primary strike-runners, including the 105kg outside centre Yann David, will surely have implicit instructions to test Jacobs, but Springbok flyhalf Steyn has no concerns about his ability to front the challenge.
‘I don’t think Adi is vulnerable at all,’ Steyn told keo.co.za. ‘He knows what to expect, we all do, and that’s a physical onslaught from some big boys in their side. Adi is ready.’
Steyn did, however, temper those assertions by stressing that it would take a collective effort to blunt the attacking ambitions of Les Tricolores.
‘It’s important that we work as a unit in defence and help Adi out because we’re aware that they will look to target him,’ Steyn explained.
‘Our defensive pattern helps create opportunities for the double hit and if we can execute a couple of those on their big ball-carriers we’ll have the opportunity to turn over possession and counter-attack.
‘Adi has a senior player in Jaque Fourie on his outside and I’ll be doing my best to help him as well. It’s a team effort, we won’t allow them to isolate one of our players.’
Steyn said that after playing a full season with De Villiers on his outside, playing with Jacobs would require some adjusting. He also predicted that it would take ‘a couple of games’ for Jacobs to become accustomed to the demands of playing 12 at Test level.
‘He’s played most of his rugby at outside centre in recent years, so naturally he’ll have to adjust because the roles are very different. That doesn’t happen overnight, and like any player must be given the opportunity to settle in a new position, so must Adi.’
France’s attack is expected to centre primarily on forward play – manifested through the pursuit of set piece and breakdown domination – as well as tactical kicking. Steyn, however, noted that their penchant for the expansive in the back division should made them tricky to prepare for.
‘I don’t really know what to expect from them,’ he said. ‘They are equally capable of playing a direct, percentage-based style, which I think they will do, as they are throwing it wide. It’s a case of wait and see, but we’re prepared either way.
‘I suspect it’ll be a battle of the kickers, where they’ll look to pin us in our half and play from there,’ he continued. ‘They’ve got very good players to execute their kicking pattern, and if they do play a tactical game we’ll have to give support to our back three.’
By Ryan Vrede
103 Comments
12 Nov 2009, 10:26 am
I like the way Morne handles himself in the press……comes across as very mature and sensible !
12 Nov 2009, 10:26 am
I’ve seen Jean de Villiers and Jacque Fourie regulalrly fall off tackles yet their defensive prowess is never questioned. Give Adi a chance before bringing him down. Lets start supporting our dragons.
12 Nov 2009, 10:29 am
Defend as a unit….key.
12 Nov 2009, 10:30 am
go adi -your country got ure back my friend
12 Nov 2009, 10:32 am
#2 Cyborg: Defending and tackling are different. No one here seems to appreciate that.
12 Nov 2009, 10:35 am
Go Adi! These French centres may be big but arent they still quite young? Use that journeyman experience my man!
Everyone makes defensive mistakes, remember Tait running through Mossie, Frans and Butch in the RWC Final. Only to be finally tackled by a conditioned Vic!
12 Nov 2009, 10:43 am
This is rich coming from Morne Steyn, the biggest nancy-boy when is comes to tackling.
I think Adi’s defensive lines aren’t as good as De Villiers’ but he can certainly tackle as well if not better. Our loose forwards are going to be kept busy I think, so it will really depend on those defensive lines, herding players across to the wings and getting Bryan and JP to hit them with handbags.
12 Nov 2009, 10:49 am
i wonder how fast this Jan david is, nonu is over 100kg and is not great on defense, once turned hes quite poor actualy, so who knows, maybe adi can outsmart this greenhorn
12 Nov 2009, 10:52 am
Easy this…..
Why are Schalla’s defende never questioned?…..
Then ask yourdelf … why is Adi’s questioned?…..
12 Nov 2009, 10:53 am
eish – sorry spelling
12 Nov 2009, 10:58 am
I am not worried at all about Adi’s defence. We need to do more attacking imo. We cant let them dictate how we play, we need to impose our style of play on them.
We need to get them on the back foot early so that FDP and MS can kick them back into their own half. This is the remedy so that we do not have to make too many tackles.
Adi to run rings around these overgrown greenhorns!!!
Go Bokke!!!
12 Nov 2009, 10:59 am
You never see smoke without fire.
12 Nov 2009, 11:04 am
Like that, our team are like a band of brothers. Going to look out for each other. Good. They will have a plan to sort out that huge French centre. Just like we had a plan to bring down Lomu who never scored a try against us. Defend like a pack.
12 Nov 2009, 11:09 am
#12 dr dre:
Or you never see smoke without chronic hey Dre?
12 Nov 2009, 11:13 am
#12 dr dre: dry ice
12 Nov 2009, 11:28 am
#14 usualsuspect: The Dre has spoken.
Lie down on the floor now, your all gonna die.
12 Nov 2009, 11:29 am
The French approach will be predictable: a frenzied approach in the first 15 mins, both physical and through running rugby, trying to unsettle one of the most experienced teams ever! FdP and Vic are going to be critical in the facets of play they are unmatched in, namely, the lineout and the back of the scrum (box kicks, sniping runs etc). Any centre combination that involves Jaque Fourie is kind of stable, in my honest opinion. Jacobs really will have to defend like mad, though. The Boks must make it a point that the French crowd never influences the match in any way.
12 Nov 2009, 11:36 am
#14 usualsuspect: Or …You never see Adi Jacobs without a missed tackle?
12 Nov 2009, 11:38 am
Oh please, lets hope they run at Adi. Easiest thing to defend when a guy runs at you.
French sound like they are going to be adopting the dumbest strategy on earth.
All media hype = ZERO SUBSTANCE !!
Boks by 12.
12 Nov 2009, 11:41 am
#7 Vundu:
go look at steyn’s stats and then have a little think about your post…. by the way the boks don’t play the drift defence as a rule….
12 Nov 2009, 11:43 am
Muppits are chilled these times. Its the only game i know i wont miss this year. There is optimism and my guess is that its 50/50 game.
Whoever wins wont do so by more than 6 points. 22-18 either side.
It represents a different challenge and i think Adi should do well.
JdV chose not to play the French, dont know if this was out of superstition. First time he played for the Boks was against Le Bleus and he crocked his knee, second time was in WC 07 and there he did his bicep or something.
Twice bitten.
12 Nov 2009, 11:49 am
YES!! another Adi article! keep ‘em coming boys!
12 Nov 2009, 11:51 am
#21 Nguni Stud: Negative, bicep injury was against Samoa. He didn’t not choose to play France, he chose not to play for the Boks full stop by going overseas.
12 Nov 2009, 11:52 am
Jean cant defend either. So I am sure adi will do fine, Schalk will be close by with an airial attack to cover any one that dare to break the line.
12 Nov 2009, 11:54 am
#21 Nguni Stud: He also played in the series win in 2005 and overseas loss end of 2005. Four times bitten, twice lost, once won and once drawn.
12 Nov 2009, 11:58 am
#18 dr dre: or butchered drop goal attempt
12 Nov 2009, 12:03 pm
Adi’s defense will always be questioned unless he grows another 15cm. He an awesome player who’s been underrated his entire career.
In my mind his defense has always been sound except when hes played with an injured shoulder.
12 Nov 2009, 12:04 pm
Like it or not, he’s the guy. Lets back him. The way morne carries himself in the press is very encouraging. He’s on his way to becoming a great. Classy. Looks a bit like Simon Cowell though. That’s the only negative thing I can think of….
12 Nov 2009, 12:05 pm
I’m starting to appreciate Steyn more and more now. He’s a real team player with a calm and mature head on his shoulders.
Adi had one bad defensive game against the Lions (whilst carrying a shoulder injury). He’s fronted against the likes of Nonu and others just fine. But he is small and considered a quota selection by many so makes for an easy target for the Press. I’ve seen Jaque Fourie fall off plenty tackles including games in the British Lions tour.
Let’s give Adi a chance and see how he goes because he has plenty to offer on attack, and we’re a lot weaker there than on defence….
12 Nov 2009, 12:06 pm
Adi played for quite some time with an injury and that affected his play.
Hopefully he has recovered fully by now and look forward to this one.
I think he enjoys attacking more than the defense, but has shown in the past that he has the exp to defend effectively.
It is unlikely that he will dominate in the collisions but that’s not his primary role.
It will be interesting to see if the Frogs can contain him in midfield.
French really talking up this game, so it will be a fantastic game to watch tomorrow night. Trying to isolate a player before the game merely serves as motivation.
12 Nov 2009, 12:09 pm
eish – how was adi’s effeort in the CC semi when Pottie said to him ….THANKS for coming… game over!
12 Nov 2009, 12:14 pm
Ok mense – cheers. Sien later. Gou gou n lekker pepper fillet aanval!
12 Nov 2009, 12:21 pm
#2 Cyborg: u took the words right out of my mouth!!!
12 Nov 2009, 12:23 pm
Adi will be fine, he had one bad game now he becomes the target of piss poor defence.
We should focus and comment on the area where we will come short tom night. The scrums. We are not scrumming correctly and this is going to cost us a game soon. The frogs have some huge fire power on the bench and the bokka are going to stuggle after 60 minutes.
I really hope that this gets sorted out soon though. Beast is a problem area, he is not binding properly and seems to drift inwards after contact and this makes his shoulder drop.
Anyway, lets trust that attention has been given to this area.
Go Butcher Boys – That name is kinda growing on me.
12 Nov 2009, 12:24 pm
#29 Yetirat: Well said
12 Nov 2009, 12:32 pm
All jokes aside!
Go Adi – flatten those Frogs! France in France – mmmmmmm!
12 Nov 2009, 12:38 pm
#36 dr dre: Adi is a huge talent, he will be fine and he has the teams backing.
The scrum boys, the scum.
12 Nov 2009, 12:46 pm
I was thiking, when last did we play France? Was a long time ago. They have not “felt the wrath” of this new bok side yet so they dont really know what to expect.
There has also been very little talk about the fetchers and stealing the ball. Brussow must have a blinder, Morne must slot evey penalty within 60 meters. Bakkis must clear the ruck like he did against England in the world cup and for gods sake, Beast must scrum properly like the first game against the Lions.
Go my Butcher boys.
12 Nov 2009, 12:46 pm
Not so much about Jacobs who IS a liability if you ever bothered to watch rugby, then I recommend the 2nd Test against the Lions where he was breached 6 times over 15 minutes
It’s the combo of FdP, Styen, Jacobs and Kirshner that will invite any test team to reap it apart.
Has anybody seen M Styen ever tackling somebody?
12 Nov 2009, 12:49 pm
Best form of defense is attack. Retain ball, starve them of ball, and you don’t need to worry about who falls off tackles. Run them ragged first half and let your bench finish them off the last 15 minutes. 105kg centers do not like to tackle all night, and after their fair share of tackles their attack becomes blunted because you have tired backs
12 Nov 2009, 12:50 pm
#28 stormersboy:
“Rugby players should do their talking on the field” ~ old French Wisdom
Seriously, a player who has no record of defending his line should not come to the defence of a confirmed tackles’ faker such as Jacob!
Full srop
12 Nov 2009, 12:50 pm
#38 Fidget: Brussouw can be nulled; proven in CC final when he made plenty tackles, attended plenty rucks, but didn’t have a single steal
12 Nov 2009, 12:54 pm
steyn will help ad!what a joker.very rich coming from a guy that excecuted a few gayish-looking tackles against the british and irish lions backline players.
12 Nov 2009, 12:54 pm
#40 Richie_7:
Nonsense
I remember centres such as Daniel Herbert, Matt Burke (when played there)our own Pieter Muller and Jappie Mulder and France’s Juajion to name few centres from the past who tackled anything moving non stop through out
Jamie Roberts still does it all game long!
12 Nov 2009, 12:57 pm
#42 Richie_7:
Easy Richie
that was under Jonathan Kaplan’s watchful eyes
With Barens as the test referee Brussouw will have a field day
12 Nov 2009, 12:59 pm
#43 Valkyrie:
at least he made the tackles…
12 Nov 2009, 13:01 pm
#13 Puma:
tis true, Puma, that the Boks kept Jonah out. But that wasnt all his game, he also drew defenders like bees to the honeypot.
Lomus ABs vs Boks
Played 12
Won 7.
12 Nov 2009, 13:02 pm
#43 Valkyrie: What’s a gayish looking tackle?
12 Nov 2009, 13:02 pm
#44 Hondo: Sorry, don’t remember of the centers you mentioned being 21, 105kg’s, and tackling for 80 mins in their first tests. You trying to tell me if Mossie runs at him all night he won’t start slipping tackles?
12 Nov 2009, 13:04 pm
#45 Hondo: Actually, with Barnes officiating Brussouw will need to ensure he says within the laws. Barnes tends to get yellow card fever
12 Nov 2009, 13:05 pm
Its quite obvious.
Jacobs should be at centre and Fourie inside at 12.
Presumably thats the way theyll up on D. So noone needs to fret.
Unless he doesnt.
Fourie could be devastating at 12, and Jacobs is very dangerous at 13. Why not ?
12 Nov 2009, 13:06 pm
#50 Richie_7:
mos def
12 Nov 2009, 13:09 pm
at the end of the day it will be left to the legend schalk burger to prevent steyn and adi seriously injuring themselves and then you get moegoes here on keo calling for burger to be banished from bok rugby!
12 Nov 2009, 13:11 pm
Anybody who says Steyn can’t tackle has not watched his carreer and is merely judging him on one missed tackle which resulted in a try against NZ. He was on as a sub an very new to the set-up.
#42 Richie_7: Cheetahs had most of the possession. Hard to turnover your own ball.
12 Nov 2009, 13:11 pm
#47 WakaNathan: He was a awesome player Waka. Boks just worked it out to hunt in packs to bring him down and low, tackled him around the ankle area. If you tackled him higher or one on one he would just haver run over the player.
Always rememer world cup 1995 when he just ran over Cat like he was not even there. Cat’s heart must have frozen…hahaha.
Lomu was well respected here and around the world.
Never seen this centre that is going to play for France. Think we will have worked something out to cover for Adi.
12 Nov 2009, 13:12 pm
#53 Valkyrie: After his tackle on du Preez in the CC semi final, I wished he were English so he could be knighted
12 Nov 2009, 13:12 pm
#51 WakaNathan: Fourie slips plenty of tackles himself, but he makes a concerted effort to get his guy when he does.
Why not just pick players in their positions and then not have to worry about different offensive and defensive alignments?
12 Nov 2009, 13:13 pm
#54 Ratel Brussow (MSIUR): 4 tries to the Bulls. Clearly missed 4 oppurtunities there
12 Nov 2009, 13:15 pm
#58 Richie_7: Those were mostly from their own turn-over ball and created from deep inside their half. Did you watch the game?
12 Nov 2009, 13:15 pm
#48 stormer in a teacup:
LOL bud, just pissed myself. I was also wondering what kinda tackle that is.
12 Nov 2009, 13:16 pm
#46 gunther: yes, but only after the chaps were 3metres past him!
12 Nov 2009, 13:17 pm
#59 Ratel Brussow (MSIUR): Yes I did. Shall I Google and get you the exact number of Bulls rucks? Or have you already thought of an excuse for each of them too?
12 Nov 2009, 13:22 pm
#62 Richie_7: That would be a nice stat. Great game wasn’t it. The 2 differing styles were great to watch. FS unlucky in the end. In my opinion it was easier to T/o FS ball, because of their attacking running style. Whilst the Bulls preferred a defensive forward and kicking style which made T/o much harder. Maybe you disagree?
12 Nov 2009, 13:31 pm
#63 Ratel Brussow (MSIUR): Actually, I thought the Bulls were completely outplayed and very lucky with their tries:
Try 1 knock on by Bulls before ref awarded penalty to Bulls
Try 2 forward pass from du Preez to Habana
Try 3 Habana in front of kicker
Cheetahs try disallowed near the end when linesman confirmed ball did not travel 5 meters. Replays show prop’s feet behind 5m line.
I was very dissapointed for the Cheetahs players. I definitely think they played all the rugby
12 Nov 2009, 13:34 pm
#64 Richie_7: Yup, taken from Dan Retief’s column:
“The Cheetahs can rightly be said to have played all the rugby, they were in control of the ball for an inordinate amount of time, they played in Bulls’ territory for the greater percentage of the match yet they ended up too far in arrears to really make a match of it as the Bulls picked off three tries in the space of 13 minutes from the 4th to the 17th.”
I’m out of here, I just think the game must be looked at in context of the bigger picture.
12 Nov 2009, 13:39 pm
Slightly off topic,
Does anyone know when and where the boks will be training whilst in Dublin?
12 Nov 2009, 13:44 pm
#64 Richie_7: I agree with you. I’m a WP supporter and historically cant stand the boertjies from the north. So every time i bring up what you just said, everyone says I’m a sore looser or I’m just dissing the bulls.
Its freeking true. The bulls were lucky to get a early start like they did. The cheetahs were very unlucky and could have been diffrent, especially that last try that was not allowed. The forward pass to Habana for him to score was also pathetic and the darn lazy lineman should have been in line with the ball to pick it up. It was no doubt a forward pass. ****, i also lost 500 bucks on them boys. I really thought they were in for a good chance.
12 Nov 2009, 13:45 pm
#66 DubBok: On grass, somewhere in Dublin.
Just kidding. Are you going to be there you lucky devil?
12 Nov 2009, 13:54 pm
4 words. Peter Grant, Wyand Olivier
12 Nov 2009, 13:59 pm
#69 Travelling Shark: and your point is bud?
12 Nov 2009, 14:04 pm
#67 Fidget:
you are certainly displaying all the symptoms of a sore looser
if only
what if
but then
they were lucky
it was the ref….
i suggest antibiotics or perhaps an innoculation to prevent further outbreaks of this condition…
12 Nov 2009, 14:05 pm
#69 Travelling Shark: Get with it chap, that was the call all through 2008. No way i want Grant at 10 when we can have Steyn in 2009.
WO has had chances and not really done much at Intl level, lets give Adi a chance first. If he fails beg FS back failing that JdV.
12 Nov 2009, 14:08 pm
#23 MUTANT
I know JdV got injured in our first WC game against Samoa. That was in France.
The issue raised was mere speculation along superstitious lines seeing that some people still believe in Fridat the 13th.
Twas nothing really
12 Nov 2009, 14:12 pm
#39 Hondo: I used this on another thread recently but it applies here as well.
here are some stats from scrum dot com
According to scrums website Adi missed no tackles (made 7)during the first test and jaque missed one even though he was on the field for a shorter time period.
go to scrum dot com . look for the lions tour and look for the match details.
The second test Adi missed 1 out of 4 and Jaque made the 1 tackle he attempted.
The third test Fourie missed none but Olivier missed 2 of 8 he attempted.
So does this prove that you have your facts wrong about Adi’s tackling abilities? Or do you just believe whatever charachter assasination keo and his ilk dish up without basing it on facts.
The stats thus proves that Wynand was a poorer tackler than Adi but you dont blast Wynand for the same thing.
Adi’s weakness is not that he cant tackle. He doesnt impose himself at tackle point. he wont tackle someone backwards, but they dont run through him like some would like us to believe. if there is a critiscm of his defence it would be that when he tackles, he should not allow the player to make one or 2 strides while being brought down.
12 Nov 2009, 14:17 pm
MUTANT – Take it easy
Head-to-head record between France and South Africa ahead of their international in Toulouse on Friday:
Played: 36
France wins: 10
South Africa wins: 20
Drawn: 06
Highest scores: France 36-26, 2006; South Africa 52-10, 1997
Biggest wins: France 30-10, 2002; South Africa 52-10, 1997
Last five results:
2006: Cape Town: FRA 36-26
2005: Paris: FRA 26-20
2005: Port Elizabeth: RSA 27-13
2005: Durban: Drn 30-30
2002: Marseille: FRA 30-10
What does the recent record suggest for Saturday?
12 Nov 2009, 14:17 pm
#71 gunther: I know, i am a sore loser especially when it hurts my pocket. The illness is certainly not pleasant and displays signs of a weak character but then again, as Who Cares Says, who cares….
cheers folks, until tomorrow.
12 Nov 2009, 14:21 pm
Die Blou Bul eetie vannie vloer affie….. net die midweek team!
12 Nov 2009, 14:21 pm
Scheme the boks are in for it. It will be a different challenge. One they have not heard in quite a bit.
I’d like to single out at least 5 players that should give boks a headache on Friday night and these are;
Clerc and Heymans, Harinodorquay and Dussatoir.
It will be mobility that will do us more than the expected tight 5 battle.
12 Nov 2009, 14:22 pm
Wynand O has really not done much at international level and adi has the capabilities of having a blinder, tons of talent and passion. I agree, give the fellow a chance – lets see.
12 Nov 2009, 14:30 pm
#77 Staal: and dont forget caveman after 60 minutes.
The frogs are barking up the wrong tree though, calling us The Butcher Boys. I believe this was a mistake. Smity has a history of dishing out Rugby leasons if you rub the team up the wrong way. England WC 36.0
Boys, this is a special team and on the right day, they will run the Frogs sick, no matter where the game is played.
The weather is going to play a big part though and i hope it is a least a little dry.
12 Nov 2009, 14:31 pm
#78 Nguni Stud: I agree it will be a battle but:
Brussouw better than Dusatoir (personal opinion i know)
Burger better than Haranodiqui (fact)
Habana better than Clerc (absolute fact)
Petersen just as good as Heymans….
We’ll be ok. Saffers by nature are pessimistic. I reckon Boks to win it.
12 Nov 2009, 14:31 pm
Sorrym, i meant to reply to Nguni Stud.
12 Nov 2009, 14:35 pm
#78 Nguni Stud: 4 is not at least 5
12 Nov 2009, 14:37 pm
#81 Cheetha Champs: Thats my point, at Loftus, it’s not so far fetched to say that the boks could put 50 past this frog side on a good day.
Just because we playing on their turf, some of us panic. Yes, its not our conditions and the frogs recon they are cabable of beating us. As Naas say, “we must remember that it still grass, played at loftus or in Russia”
12 Nov 2009, 14:49 pm
#84 Fidget: it’s all about cool heads, avoiding panic and keeping to the game plan…something this team has managed to do against far better sides than France
boks by 15
12 Nov 2009, 14:51 pm
#74 moedeloos:
go to sa rugby
jacobs missed 4 tackles in the first two matches…
lies and damned statistics…
12 Nov 2009, 14:57 pm
The people that have a misconception about AD tackling is KEO.co.za and many that eat off the palm of KEO.co.za.
The French I would like to think have targeted the smallest back in the backline which does not necessarily mean he cant tackle.
Sure, people have gripes about AD starting over Wynand, I am one of those people, but what i will not do is to create an imagined weakness to please my own weakness of assessing character.
AD could not be where he is if he didnt know how to tackle. At center whether inside or outside, there is no hiding place, if you cant tackle ala Jorrie Muller then you will be exposed then banished from Rugby.
12 Nov 2009, 15:05 pm
#86 gunther: please send me the link. i went there and could not find it.
12 Nov 2009, 15:13 pm
are any of Matfield’s ex team members playing for the French side?
12 Nov 2009, 15:19 pm
#88 moedeloos:
go to the home page click on the lions tab ad then players stats… its quite interesting there is not much to choose between the different centres…I think one problem adi has that the stats do not show is that even when he does tackle a player, they mange to pass/offload… that said I am fine with him at 12 i think he brings a lot on attack also with schalk there I think the french will find that channelas busy as the Champs Elysee during rush hour…
12 Nov 2009, 15:23 pm
Stormer in a teacup
Surely your response was a stormer in a teacup.
The message is clear enough
Take it easy though
Boks to lose by 5
12 Nov 2009, 15:29 pm
#86 gunther: I just went to sa rugby and found the Verusco stats for the entire series
Jacobs – made 18 missed 4 tackles (misses 18% of tackles attempted)
Fourie – made 16 missed 3 tackles (misses 18% of tackles attempted)
Olivier -made 13 missed 3 tackles (misses 23% of tackles attempted)
So the stats does not show that AD is as weak as you and Keo would like.
12 Nov 2009, 15:31 pm
#90 gunther: missed this post before i posted my last comment. I just wish that people would stop targetting players they dont like with baseless opinionated ****. Stick to the facts.
12 Nov 2009, 16:08 pm
#92 moedeloos: These Stats are still misleading – were crucial tackles made ? that is the question.
12 Nov 2009, 16:11 pm
Adi at 12 to me is an absurd selection and underlines PDV’s selection and coaching immaturity.
12 Nov 2009, 16:14 pm
#44 Hondo: Ja Hondo you have to bear in mind that that pearl of wisdom from richie_7 is from a Kiwi. That “strategy” doesnt take into consideration the big, strong Bok boys who love tackling, and how well the Boks have done by not having the ball in hand over the last few years.
#92 moedeloos: Nice stats – thanks Moedie. Stats can however prove anything you want them to – Adi has heart and passion and has proven his brilliance on attack (granted it was from #13) – stuff that cant be put into stats
So they can run at him all night, he WILL stop them, and when he runs around them, they will know
BOKKE!
12 Nov 2009, 16:16 pm
SGLAZER
Coaching Maturity – Lions Victory, Trinations Title, Beating All Black 3 games in a row Home/Away, No.1 Team in the World.
Thats immaturity from you boet.
12 Nov 2009, 18:38 pm
#95 sglazer: agreed
#97 von Giba: immaturity is more like giving the bok coach credit for the TEAM’s achievements. Its like praising Frans Ludeke for something he did not build. Bandise Maku , Earl Rose , Davon Raubenheimer. You can back those IMMATURE selections i will not ever
12 Nov 2009, 19:37 pm
#49 Richie_7:
Being tackled also takes its toll, ask Lomu
12 Nov 2009, 20:23 pm
#97,
Tool.
12 Nov 2009, 20:48 pm
#51 WakaNathan: I agree.
12 Nov 2009, 22:04 pm
WO at 12 ,JF at 13….Adi on the bench to cover both…would have seemed the best option.
However both Steyn and Jacobs while unlikely to knock a player back are good at the low tackle…something our butcher brutes like Burger,Roussouw,Spies etc often come short on.
13 Nov 2009, 07:31 am
Is Ashley around??
Did KEO make an apology yet??
Or are we still waiting??
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