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	<title>Comments on: Ireland put the boot in</title>
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		<title>By: jonnymain</title>
		<link>http://www.keo.co.za/2009/11/28/ireland-put-the-boot-in/#comment-1475462</link>
		<dc:creator>jonnymain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 06:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1475101&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Atreides&lt;/a&gt;: You need a solid scrum for so many reasons, but agree you also need a player who can contribute in the tight-loose and do the lifting in the lineouts. If BJ can&#039;t do these things as well as he can scrum then he is no good, but one thing is clear for me - PDV cannot in the name of good sense pick Smit as tighthead next year. The difference in the scrums was clear for all to see, a proper tighthead is needed but one who can also do damage with the ball in hand around the fringes and clean out the rucks when required. BJ may not be the answer to our prayers here but JS clearly isn&#039;t!

The Boks also need to play the match situation better than they did on Saturday. Kearney and Bowe are superb under the high ball as a rule so why keep punting it to them? They are not Sivivatu and Rockocoko! It worked in the 3N against the ABs but that doesn&#039;t make it alright for other teams. How many times did the Boks kick away decent possession? When Pienaar replaced Steyn I thought that would signal the end of the negative Blou Bul tactics but it didn&#039;t! Some variation Boks please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1475101" rel="nofollow">Atreides</a>: You need a solid scrum for so many reasons, but agree you also need a player who can contribute in the tight-loose and do the lifting in the lineouts. If BJ can&#8217;t do these things as well as he can scrum then he is no good, but one thing is clear for me &#8211; PDV cannot in the name of good sense pick Smit as tighthead next year. The difference in the scrums was clear for all to see, a proper tighthead is needed but one who can also do damage with the ball in hand around the fringes and clean out the rucks when required. BJ may not be the answer to our prayers here but JS clearly isn&#8217;t!</p>
<p>The Boks also need to play the match situation better than they did on Saturday. Kearney and Bowe are superb under the high ball as a rule so why keep punting it to them? They are not Sivivatu and Rockocoko! It worked in the 3N against the ABs but that doesn&#8217;t make it alright for other teams. How many times did the Boks kick away decent possession? When Pienaar replaced Steyn I thought that would signal the end of the negative Blou Bul tactics but it didn&#8217;t! Some variation Boks please.</p>
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		<title>By: wallabie.</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 23:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1474406&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;grant10&lt;/a&gt;: 

You need to take your medication...right now is a good time!!</description>
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<p>You need to take your medication&#8230;right now is a good time!!</p>
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		<title>By: wallabie.</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 23:46:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1474403&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;grant10&lt;/a&gt;: 

:lol:

Is it stupidity or arrogance when one thinks they are higher than the other.
Maybe you played at a higher level but you could have been the useless player in the team that kept letting the team down.

Ranger may have been the player who was excellent that made the local team look professionals.

Have you met Ranger, have you played against Ranger?

If not...then you are childish!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1474403" rel="nofollow">grant10</a>: </p>
<p> <img src='http://www.keo.co.za/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Is it stupidity or arrogance when one thinks they are higher than the other.<br />
Maybe you played at a higher level but you could have been the useless player in the team that kept letting the team down.</p>
<p>Ranger may have been the player who was excellent that made the local team look professionals.</p>
<p>Have you met Ranger, have you played against Ranger?</p>
<p>If not&#8230;then you are childish!!</p>
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		<title>By: SjamBok</title>
		<link>http://www.keo.co.za/2009/11/28/ireland-put-the-boot-in/#comment-1475308</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 21:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1475101&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Atreides&lt;/a&gt;: Its simple- we need to be good in all aspects of the set pieces - not just one of them - forr securing your own possession.  I reckon lineouts is the most important, but scrums do a lot for morale. 

But this counts for nothing is you can DO BUGGER ALL with said possession...

And the complete lack of variation in  our game plan can either be laid at the feet of the coaches, or Morne Steyn. Lack of variaton makes us easy to defnd against.  You need tomake a team expect ioe thing , and produce another.

As soon as Ruaan Pienaar came on, and started varying play down the wings, it kept them guessing and we made good ground. In fact within two phases we nearly had a try by Beast.

But did Pienaar play like that under orders, or because he has a better sense of variation and what is required of an international flyhalf?  Did Morne play like that under orders, or because he was too lazy to change play?

I cannot figure it out myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1475101" rel="nofollow">Atreides</a>: Its simple- we need to be good in all aspects of the set pieces &#8211; not just one of them &#8211; forr securing your own possession.  I reckon lineouts is the most important, but scrums do a lot for morale. </p>
<p>But this counts for nothing is you can DO BUGGER ALL with said possession&#8230;</p>
<p>And the complete lack of variation in  our game plan can either be laid at the feet of the coaches, or Morne Steyn. Lack of variaton makes us easy to defnd against.  You need tomake a team expect ioe thing , and produce another.</p>
<p>As soon as Ruaan Pienaar came on, and started varying play down the wings, it kept them guessing and we made good ground. In fact within two phases we nearly had a try by Beast.</p>
<p>But did Pienaar play like that under orders, or because he has a better sense of variation and what is required of an international flyhalf?  Did Morne play like that under orders, or because he was too lazy to change play?</p>
<p>I cannot figure it out myself.</p>
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		<title>By: SjamBok</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 20:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1474482&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;catleya&lt;/a&gt;: Nice post- every onelese on this site are acting like a bunch of 12 years olds with hangovers...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1474482" rel="nofollow">catleya</a>: Nice post- every onelese on this site are acting like a bunch of 12 years olds with hangovers&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Atreides</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:31:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing that had me seeing red and spitting bile and acid: A few minutes left in the game, JdV breaks down the left wing and gets into some serious pace. JPP on his shoulder when he makes the break, he SLOWS DOWN to a canter, leaving Jean to sprint into space on his own, looking around for the offload while the laziest springbok ever to wear a Bok jersey jogs along 5 metres behind!! JdV Goes to ground and JP half-arsedly joins the ruck - absolutely a massive try opportunity left out there to rot - I mean WTF!!!!???? Anyone else see it the way i did? Or did I miss something?

*&amp;*(*^*&amp;%*^!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing that had me seeing red and spitting bile and acid: A few minutes left in the game, JdV breaks down the left wing and gets into some serious pace. JPP on his shoulder when he makes the break, he SLOWS DOWN to a canter, leaving Jean to sprint into space on his own, looking around for the offload while the laziest springbok ever to wear a Bok jersey jogs along 5 metres behind!! JdV Goes to ground and JP half-arsedly joins the ruck &#8211; absolutely a massive try opportunity left out there to rot &#8211; I mean WTF!!!!???? Anyone else see it the way i did? Or did I miss something?</p>
<p>*&amp;*(*^*&amp;%*^!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Atreides</title>
		<link>http://www.keo.co.za/2009/11/28/ireland-put-the-boot-in/#comment-1475101</link>
		<dc:creator>Atreides</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:26:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1474406&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;grant10&lt;/a&gt;: Pretty garbage responses from you Grant, to a very valid question...you&#039;ve been preaching the gospel of good scrums=won games for months, but I agree with Ranger, BJ was all but invisible. And where does go-forward in the scrum get us when all our scrummie and flyhalf or wings do is box kick or up and under???? Or give it to WO who runs sideways like a crab into touch? Scrum domination is an important part of a well rounded team, but the concept that it is the overiding factor in rugby success died out with the dinosaurs. Last night proved that. We creamed them in the scrums in the first half and what did it get us? A measly 4 point lead, and we couldn&#039;t put a single point on in the second....What about our borng one-dimensional kick an dhunt? What about our lineouts which sucked? Or them smashing us in the rucks and dominating the physical contests? These all contributed to the loss,not ONLY that BJ went off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1474406" rel="nofollow">grant10</a>: Pretty garbage responses from you Grant, to a very valid question&#8230;you&#8217;ve been preaching the gospel of good scrums=won games for months, but I agree with Ranger, BJ was all but invisible. And where does go-forward in the scrum get us when all our scrummie and flyhalf or wings do is box kick or up and under???? Or give it to WO who runs sideways like a crab into touch? Scrum domination is an important part of a well rounded team, but the concept that it is the overiding factor in rugby success died out with the dinosaurs. Last night proved that. We creamed them in the scrums in the first half and what did it get us? A measly 4 point lead, and we couldn&#8217;t put a single point on in the second&#8230;.What about our borng one-dimensional kick an dhunt? What about our lineouts which sucked? Or them smashing us in the rucks and dominating the physical contests? These all contributed to the loss,not ONLY that BJ went off.</p>
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		<title>By: Valkyrie</title>
		<link>http://www.keo.co.za/2009/11/28/ireland-put-the-boot-in/#comment-1475019</link>
		<dc:creator>Valkyrie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1474924&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;DDP&lt;/a&gt;: don&#039;t see ghosts behind every tree now mate.if you are irish enjoy the victory but i have to say you guys are a funny bunch out there in the green isles.i see your rugby experts are talking about the world cup again just like in 2006 when you beat the boks and the aussies and we all now know what the end result was.i just love irish optimism!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1474924" rel="nofollow">DDP</a>: don&#8217;t see ghosts behind every tree now mate.if you are irish enjoy the victory but i have to say you guys are a funny bunch out there in the green isles.i see your rugby experts are talking about the world cup again just like in 2006 when you beat the boks and the aussies and we all now know what the end result was.i just love irish optimism!</p>
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		<title>By: Hondo</title>
		<link>http://www.keo.co.za/2009/11/28/ireland-put-the-boot-in/#comment-1475001</link>
		<dc:creator>Hondo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:18:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1474581&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Slumtown&lt;/a&gt;: 
So,
Ebersohn&#039;s weight is an issue but Aplon&#039; weight is adequate?
Wow</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1474581" rel="nofollow">Slumtown</a>:<br />
So,<br />
Ebersohn&#8217;s weight is an issue but Aplon&#8217; weight is adequate?<br />
Wow</p>
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		<title>By: Crouching Tiger Hidden Bokke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crouching Tiger Hidden Bokke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1474998&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Hondo&lt;/a&gt;: Johnson should&#039;ve at least been on the bench. Would&#039;ve been very interested to see him, Deysel and Brussouw playing as a loose trio,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1474998" rel="nofollow">Hondo</a>: Johnson should&#8217;ve at least been on the bench. Would&#8217;ve been very interested to see him, Deysel and Brussouw playing as a loose trio,</p>
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		<title>By: Crouching Tiger Hidden Bokke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crouching Tiger Hidden Bokke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:16:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1474924&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;DDP&lt;/a&gt;: How exactly did we get our asses handed to us? Ireland failed to score one try! It was all down to their 16th man - mr moffie Nigel Owens! We were really poor but Ireland got nowhere near to crossing our line. The refereeing yesterday was a disgrace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1474924" rel="nofollow">DDP</a>: How exactly did we get our asses handed to us? Ireland failed to score one try! It was all down to their 16th man &#8211; mr moffie Nigel Owens! We were really poor but Ireland got nowhere near to crossing our line. The refereeing yesterday was a disgrace.</p>
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		<title>By: Hondo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hondo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1474579&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Slumtown&lt;/a&gt;: 
I agree wholesaly
My point is, if someone does insist on players of colour, they need the credentials FIRST
Albert, Vermulen and Spies are in contention but Johnson can come 4th or 5th, all the three 1st choice have history of long injuries so Johonson may get the nod on merit!
He plays the game the way it should</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1474579" rel="nofollow">Slumtown</a>:<br />
I agree wholesaly<br />
My point is, if someone does insist on players of colour, they need the credentials FIRST<br />
Albert, Vermulen and Spies are in contention but Johnson can come 4th or 5th, all the three 1st choice have history of long injuries so Johonson may get the nod on merit!<br />
He plays the game the way it should</p>
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		<title>By: DDP</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 11:19:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hope you guys noticed how the South African players ran straight down the tunnel and refused to clap the Irish team off. Pretty petty I would say. Got their asses handed to them and ran away crying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hope you guys noticed how the South African players ran straight down the tunnel and refused to clap the Irish team off. Pretty petty I would say. Got their asses handed to them and ran away crying.</p>
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		<title>By: jonnymain</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 08:22:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1474464&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;rangerman&lt;/a&gt;: @&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1474439&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;grant10&lt;/a&gt;: Eish! :-) hope the heads aren&#039;t too sore this morning. Cricket is on and it&#039;s a lovely day!

What does this tour tell us about the Boks? Not a lot. SA have never been that good at travelling have they? FWIW I would use 2010 to blood the next gen of player, Bekker for Matfield is my bolter for PDV selection shocks next season. Vic is an awesome player but he won&#039;t make 2011 in peak condition so Bekker must play now. Smit may choose to retire which I am fine with, what a player and what a leader but he also won&#039;t make 2011 in my view.

Boks are the team of 2009 and there isn&#039;t a blogger alive who would argue otherwise, this tour changes nothing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1474464" rel="nofollow">rangerman</a>: @<a href="#comment-1474439" rel="nofollow">grant10</a>: Eish! <img src='http://www.keo.co.za/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  hope the heads aren&#8217;t too sore this morning. Cricket is on and it&#8217;s a lovely day!</p>
<p>What does this tour tell us about the Boks? Not a lot. SA have never been that good at travelling have they? FWIW I would use 2010 to blood the next gen of player, Bekker for Matfield is my bolter for PDV selection shocks next season. Vic is an awesome player but he won&#8217;t make 2011 in peak condition so Bekker must play now. Smit may choose to retire which I am fine with, what a player and what a leader but he also won&#8217;t make 2011 in my view.</p>
<p>Boks are the team of 2009 and there isn&#8217;t a blogger alive who would argue otherwise, this tour changes nothing!</p>
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		<title>By: husky</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 07:56:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Rangerman - funny to expose that Gwant10 makes a million posts but is hardly analytical, but there again keow is really a pace for ranters like skoppie, xhosa etc who love to use words like useless, pathetic, hopeless etc about players who are in the world top 10, sure they have bad games. Also very funny to see thatthe kick &amp; chase is John Smit&#039;s idea/ It&#039;s that tik again bru, particularly the cheap stuff. Stay away from tik and keo.

Catleya - nice thinking.

My little take. We lack super coaching. Ireland and ou Gert saw us coming and while we spent the week developing the scrum; we forgot the lineout. I&#039;ll go with Ranger - rather a weakish scrum than hopeless lineout!

We need to realise that the world moves on. Kick and chase worked against NZ and Oz who had some inexperienced players (Oz) and weren&#039;t expecting it (NZ). So their return tactics have sharpened up. Kearney is fantastic under the high ball and we have few real chasers (Kirchner did well). We let him get the ball then tackle, tackle, tackle. Not so clever.

Like Jake&#039;s rush defence SA need to move on. We have many excellent players (despite wot grant, skoppie et al rant about). All they need is coaching. PdV is an excellent motivator but we need a few people as tacticians, analysts, individual coaches (not a woodward tribe though). DM and GG are good but not excellent or that experienced.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Rangerman &#8211; funny to expose that Gwant10 makes a million posts but is hardly analytical, but there again keow is really a pace for ranters like skoppie, xhosa etc who love to use words like useless, pathetic, hopeless etc about players who are in the world top 10, sure they have bad games. Also very funny to see thatthe kick &amp; chase is John Smit&#8217;s idea/ It&#8217;s that tik again bru, particularly the cheap stuff. Stay away from tik and keo.</p>
<p>Catleya &#8211; nice thinking.</p>
<p>My little take. We lack super coaching. Ireland and ou Gert saw us coming and while we spent the week developing the scrum; we forgot the lineout. I&#8217;ll go with Ranger &#8211; rather a weakish scrum than hopeless lineout!</p>
<p>We need to realise that the world moves on. Kick and chase worked against NZ and Oz who had some inexperienced players (Oz) and weren&#8217;t expecting it (NZ). So their return tactics have sharpened up. Kearney is fantastic under the high ball and we have few real chasers (Kirchner did well). We let him get the ball then tackle, tackle, tackle. Not so clever.</p>
<p>Like Jake&#8217;s rush defence SA need to move on. We have many excellent players (despite wot grant, skoppie et al rant about). All they need is coaching. PdV is an excellent motivator but we need a few people as tacticians, analysts, individual coaches (not a woodward tribe though). DM and GG are good but not excellent or that experienced.</p>
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		<title>By: Slumtown</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 01:45:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My current best team would be:
first choice/ sub

1 Beast/ Wian du Preez
2 Smit/ Bismarck
3 BJ/ WP Nel
4 Bakkies/ Anton van Zyl
5 Mallet/ Becker
6 Brussouw/ Potgieter
7 Smith/ Deysel
8 Spies/ Alberts
9 Fourie du Preez (if he stops kicking)/ Jano Vermaak
10 M Steyn (no choices)/ Peter Grant???
11 Habana/ Nokwe or Chavanga
12 Jean de Villiers/ Wynand Olivier
13 Jacques Fourie/ Juan de Jongh
14 Lionel Mapoe/ JP Pietersen
15 Frans Steyn/ Louis Ludik

Some contentious choices but nothing is set in stone.
You could include a fit Heinke vd Merwe, CJ, Sarel Pretorius, Mvovo perhaps for future, Perhaps Ebersohn but size an issue, Aplon an option to consider - his defence in CC semi was huge, Juries perhaps, and really on current form its ridiculous excluding Stefan Terblanche</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My current best team would be:<br />
first choice/ sub</p>
<p>1 Beast/ Wian du Preez<br />
2 Smit/ Bismarck<br />
3 BJ/ WP Nel<br />
4 Bakkies/ Anton van Zyl<br />
5 Mallet/ Becker<br />
6 Brussouw/ Potgieter<br />
7 Smith/ Deysel<br />
8 Spies/ Alberts<br />
9 Fourie du Preez (if he stops kicking)/ Jano Vermaak<br />
10 M Steyn (no choices)/ Peter Grant???<br />
11 Habana/ Nokwe or Chavanga<br />
12 Jean de Villiers/ Wynand Olivier<br />
13 Jacques Fourie/ Juan de Jongh<br />
14 Lionel Mapoe/ JP Pietersen<br />
15 Frans Steyn/ Louis Ludik</p>
<p>Some contentious choices but nothing is set in stone.<br />
You could include a fit Heinke vd Merwe, CJ, Sarel Pretorius, Mvovo perhaps for future, Perhaps Ebersohn but size an issue, Aplon an option to consider &#8211; his defence in CC semi was huge, Juries perhaps, and really on current form its ridiculous excluding Stefan Terblanche</p>
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		<title>By: Slumtown</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 01:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1474569&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Hondo&lt;/a&gt;: Agree on Kirchner and Jantjes (what a useless fullback lets hope he doesnt return to the mix in 2010)
Johnson has potential but really if youre looking for extra beef at 8 then we need to be speaking of Alberts. For colour sake yes Johnson. But imho Alberts far better - if we´d had a combo of 6 Brussouw, 7 Deysel and 8 Alberts today with Bakkies at 4 it would have been a different thing.
Starting to agree with Skop about all the kicking from FDP and M Steyn as well as occasional stupid boots from other backline players and Kirchner. We just kicked the game away. It was pathetic to watch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1474569" rel="nofollow">Hondo</a>: Agree on Kirchner and Jantjes (what a useless fullback lets hope he doesnt return to the mix in 2010)<br />
Johnson has potential but really if youre looking for extra beef at 8 then we need to be speaking of Alberts. For colour sake yes Johnson. But imho Alberts far better &#8211; if we´d had a combo of 6 Brussouw, 7 Deysel and 8 Alberts today with Bakkies at 4 it would have been a different thing.<br />
Starting to agree with Skop about all the kicking from FDP and M Steyn as well as occasional stupid boots from other backline players and Kirchner. We just kicked the game away. It was pathetic to watch.</p>
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		<title>By: carol</title>
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		<dc:creator>carol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 01:34:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yikes!!!!

Pistols at dawn!!</description>
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<p>Pistols at dawn!!</p>
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		<title>By: Yetirat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yetirat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 01:32:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, this last loss has really put everyone in one helluva bad mood. Okes rauling left right and centre here.</description>
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		<title>By: Hondo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hondo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 00:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guys,
Money talks! 
As Pdv said: &quot;Money buys the whisky&quot;
I got it 4 out of 5 times RIGHT with the bookies, both results AND the spreads!
The Secret? a total non biased observation, let&#039;s drop all the colour preferences, it has no place in sport and thus must be condemned.
I say again, with Fran Styen at 15 and CJ/WdP @ LH the Boks would have won it by a 12-21 margin.
The Beast is detrimental to the tight game, a great source of enthropy and mayhem among the Boks&#039; forwards.
Kirshner is a giveaway, like another imposter Jantjes, plenty of action but no substance and no useful work.
If you insist on a colour &#039;balance&#039; then you need not look further than Mapoe and Johnson next season, Mapoe can step staright into JP position, Johnson needs to show that he can do more at tackling the ball carrier than merely jumping on the top of the mound but he has the attributes, the physics and the skills, too bad that Floor isn&#039;t 20kg heavier and 10 cm taller.
Raubenheimer, Adams, Maku, Nokwe? even PdV doesn&#039;t rate them, why should we?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guys,<br />
Money talks!<br />
As Pdv said: &#8220;Money buys the whisky&#8221;<br />
I got it 4 out of 5 times RIGHT with the bookies, both results AND the spreads!<br />
The Secret? a total non biased observation, let&#8217;s drop all the colour preferences, it has no place in sport and thus must be condemned.<br />
I say again, with Fran Styen at 15 and CJ/WdP @ LH the Boks would have won it by a 12-21 margin.<br />
The Beast is detrimental to the tight game, a great source of enthropy and mayhem among the Boks&#8217; forwards.<br />
Kirshner is a giveaway, like another imposter Jantjes, plenty of action but no substance and no useful work.<br />
If you insist on a colour &#8216;balance&#8217; then you need not look further than Mapoe and Johnson next season, Mapoe can step staright into JP position, Johnson needs to show that he can do more at tackling the ball carrier than merely jumping on the top of the mound but he has the attributes, the physics and the skills, too bad that Floor isn&#8217;t 20kg heavier and 10 cm taller.<br />
Raubenheimer, Adams, Maku, Nokwe? even PdV doesn&#8217;t rate them, why should we?</p>
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