Ireland 15 Springboks 10
28 Nov 2009
Keo.co.za brought you live commentary from the Boks’ last European Tour Test at Croke Park.
80 mins: The Boks attempt a set-piece move towards the left side of the field, but Ireland hold on. After three phases, Rossouw is penalised for an illegal clearance at the ruck, handing Ireland a hard-fought victory. Ireland win 15-10!
79 mins: With two minutes left, O’Learly kicks possession away and gives the Boks another opportunity. The visitors run the ball into Ireland’s 22 and find themselves 5m from the try line. Ireland, however, defend strongly and the Boks are awarded a scrum.
78 mins: The Boks spend a good period in the Irish half, but they fail to put an effective attack together. With two minutes left, Jean de Villiers is pushed into touch. That could prove to be the Boks’ last opportunity to steal victory.
68 mins: Pienaar gets his first opportunity at goal, but his kick hits the post.
66 mins: Sexton kicks Ireland into a five-point lead with his fifth penalty of the game. 15-10 to Ireland!
64 mins: Peter de Villiers has decided to run the changes. He brings on four fresh players within two minutes, which sees Ruan Pienaar at pivot and Bismarck du Plessis at hooker and John Smit moved to tighthead.
60 mins: The Boks’ ill-discipline is preventing them from building momentum and allowing Ireland to play most of the match in their half.
50 mins: The touch judge calls for a penalty, saying he spotted Andries Bekker dropping his knee on a Irish player at the ruck. Sexton then kicks Ireland into the lead. 12-10 to Ireland!
48 mins: Steyn is penalised for a high tackle on O’Driscoll. This allows Sexton to kick over his third penalty. 10-9 to the Boks!
44 mins: The Boks’ dominance at the scrums continues as they are awarded an early penalty after the break, but Steyn uncharacteristically misses his third successive kick. Only four points ahead, this could prove costly.
Half-time: Ireland 6 Springboks 10
39 mins: Ireland are penalised again, this time 60m from the posts. Steyn attempts another ambitious kick, but fails to reach his target again. O’Leary clears the ball and Owens blows for half-time.
38 mins: Du Preez is pushed off the ball by O’Driscoll while the two players try to claim an up and under, which gives Steyn a chance to convert a long-range three-pointer. The Bok flyhalf’s attempt, however, misses the target by inches as the ball falls short.
29 mins: Brussow makes a good steal, but Owens penalises the flank, saying he was in an offside position. Sexton reduces the deficit to four points, with another fine strike. 10-6 to the Boks!
24 mins: Boks build momentum and find themselves back inside Ireland’s half. From a breakdown at the 22, Steyn slots his second drop goal attempt. 10-3 to the Boks!
21 mins: Outstanding defence from the Boks keep Ireland out after several attempts from 5m out, but the home side is penalised for holding on. A big turning point in the game as Boks look fired up after their strong defensive efforts.
19 mins: A trademark Brian O’Driscoll break creates a try-scoring opportunity for the home side. Ireland work themselves 5m out from the try line, but a strong defence from the visitors restricts Ireland from crossing the chalk, which results in a Irish scrum.
16 mins: Springbok try! Ireland are penalised after being driven back in the scrum in a kickable position, but Fourie du Preez opts for a quick tap. The scrumhalf almost makes the hash of things, but the Boks keep momentum. After the third breakdown, the ball is passed wide and Jaque Fourie puts Schalk Burger through the gap for the opening try. Steyn converts for the extras. 7-3 to the Boks!
14 mins: After four scrums, Boks have the clear upper hand.
8 mins: Ireland have the first opportunity to score points as the Boks are penalised at the breakdown in a kickable position. Pivot Jonathan Sexton successfully kicks his first attempt over from 45m out. 3-0 to Ireland!
4 mins: An early bust up between Heinrich Brussow and Rob Kearney makes it clear that this is a passionate clash. Referee Nigel Owens, however, forces his hand, saying he will not tolerate any further action off the ball.
2 mins: Ireland run the ball from the lineout, but good defence from the Boks forces the home side to lose the ball forward. This sets up a promising counter attack and Steyn attempts an early drop goal, but the kick is pulled wide.
1 min: Morne Steyn kicks off and Ireland claim possession. No 9 Tomas O’Leary clears from the base, but John Smit charged down the kick and the ball goes into touch.
Ireland – 15 Rob Kearney, 14 Tommy Bowe, 13 Brian O’Driscoll (c), 12 Paddy Wallace, 11 Keith Earls, 10 Jonathan Sexton, 9 Tomas O’Leary, 8 Jamie Heaslip, 7 David Wallace, 6 Stephen Ferris, 5 Paul O’Connell, 4 Donncha O’Callaghan, 3 John Hayes, 2 Jerry Flannery, 1 Cian Healy.
Subs: 16 Sean Cronin, 17 Tony Buckley, 18 Leo Cullen, 19 Sean O’Brien, 20 Peter Stringer, 21 Ronan O’Gara, 22 Gordon D’Arcy.
Springboks – 15 Zane Kirchner, 14 JP Pietersen, 13 Jaque Fourie, 12 Wynand Olivier, 11 Bryan Habana, 10 Morne Steyn, 9 Fourie du Preez, 8 Danie Rossouw, 7 Schalk Burger, 6 Heinrich Brussow, 5 Victor Matfield, 4 Andries Bekker, 3 BJ Botha, 2 John Smit (c), 1 Beast Mtawarira.
Subs: 16 Bismarck du Plessis, 17 CJ van der Linde, 18 Jean Deysel, 19 Dewald Potgieter, 20 Ruan Pienaar, 21 Jean de Villiers, 22 Francios Hougaard.
262 Comments
28 Nov 2009, 15:04 pm
firemans…here i come
Boks by 5
28 Nov 2009, 15:07 pm
Let’s go boys, do us proud! Boks 43 Ireland 18. Wynand, Schalk and ‘Dries to have big games!
28 Nov 2009, 15:18 pm
What colours will the Bokke play in this evening?
28 Nov 2009, 15:18 pm
al die whiskey in die wereld kan nie ireland van die bokke ret nie hierdie saturday
28 Nov 2009, 15:19 pm
I hope the Bokke bury the Choirboys whatever colours the play in!
28 Nov 2009, 15:24 pm
We need to run them ragged.
Don’t get suckered into some kind of physical, macho, mumbo jumbo.
Give the ball some air and let Habs, JPP, FDP, Mossie, Meisiekind and co do their thing.
Go Bokke!
28 Nov 2009, 15:45 pm
Has South africa checked who is singing the anthem…it could lose them the game!!
28 Nov 2009, 15:47 pm
go bokke!!!!
28 Nov 2009, 15:54 pm
Hardloop hulle dronk, Bokke.
Tyd om pub toe te gaan.
28 Nov 2009, 15:57 pm
If anybody has the link on Justin TV for this game when it starts thats would be much appreciated.
28 Nov 2009, 15:58 pm
@wallabie.: LOL we’re past that already. They can even send an inebriated Tom Jones with a stoned Stephen Jones on backing vocals…..nothing will stop the green machine today.
28 Nov 2009, 16:02 pm
@wallabie.: dont u have things to worry about ,mainly the fired up welsh dragons
28 Nov 2009, 16:05 pm
@NZINCHINA:
Can you receive it? I cannot get it for long in Shaghai.
28 Nov 2009, 16:07 pm
justin.tv/williams_kyle
28 Nov 2009, 16:07 pm
@AiDoc:
Big hit gave me a link last weekend and it worked for the whole game.
28 Nov 2009, 16:09 pm
@mbaxman93:
Not even their anthem will deter us…who are the welsh again?
28 Nov 2009, 16:12 pm
The latest odds are 4:5 for the Boks to win
Was 10:11, will be a close encounter
28 Nov 2009, 16:16 pm
@NZINCHINA:
It keeps asking me for money.
28 Nov 2009, 16:18 pm
ajoneslivetv.com
This is free
28 Nov 2009, 16:18 pm
Come on Boks!!! Just 1 more!!!!!
28 Nov 2009, 16:18 pm
@AiDoc:
Thats what usually happens to me but Big hits link did not.
28 Nov 2009, 16:21 pm
stream2watch.com/watch/3150/1/
28 Nov 2009, 16:24 pm
PEIT DE VILLEIRS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
just now
repoter: you’re undisputed chamipons in SH up against the the top team in Nh
PDV:aah no we’re undisputed champions of the WORLD we’ve got the world cup too
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
hahaha PDV!
28 Nov 2009, 16:25 pm
@AiDoc:
Cheers will try those.
28 Nov 2009, 16:26 pm
@NZINCHINA:
Are you a member of acrossthetasman ? You can download all the games there tomorrow.
28 Nov 2009, 16:27 pm
Come on Big Hit, I need the goddam link. NOW! Typical Pom – let’s you down when you need him most.
28 Nov 2009, 16:30 pm
@NZINCHINA:
Check out this page it may fix the problem.
stream2watch.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1&Itemid=5
28 Nov 2009, 16:36 pm
So who’s signing our anthem this time?
28 Nov 2009, 16:39 pm
… erm … that should be ‘singing’
28 Nov 2009, 16:41 pm
let the fun begin!
28 Nov 2009, 16:46 pm
link for live stream anyone? the ones given don’t work.. PLEASE! Im desperate
28 Nov 2009, 16:47 pm
this is gonna be an AWESOME game!
28 Nov 2009, 16:49 pm
justin tv forward slash project vanilla
28 Nov 2009, 16:50 pm
mist getting worse
28 Nov 2009, 16:50 pm
thanks man
28 Nov 2009, 16:52 pm
IRE 3 – Bokke 0 after 9
28 Nov 2009, 16:52 pm
G10, do you still think Smit is a better hooker than prop ?
28 Nov 2009, 16:52 pm
Perhaps Ruan may be a better bet at 10 for this game.
28 Nov 2009, 16:53 pm
@sglazer:
Cheers
28 Nov 2009, 16:54 pm
Fourie Du Preez and Morne Steyn f.ng up all the momentum again. Bring on a proper set of half backs these two palooka’s got no idea about attacking rugby. Kick kick kick kick and kick again. Where’s a proper scrum half and fly half like Adams and Pienaar. These two got no idea at all.
28 Nov 2009, 16:54 pm
First scrum!
28 Nov 2009, 16:56 pm
good first scrum indeeeeeed. well done *******!
28 Nov 2009, 16:56 pm
Steyn is hopeless busy losing this game from the fly half and scrum half channel. Don’t know how to get this back line going. Skop up in the air is about all we know.
28 Nov 2009, 16:57 pm
J Smit is the biggest d00s ever.. k@k at its best! So he also can’t ride bike, cause he said throwing into line outs is like riding a bike …. fat b@stard…. MAKU! MAKU!!
28 Nov 2009, 16:58 pm
Yeh!!!!!!!!! Schalkie!
28 Nov 2009, 16:58 pm
Try Schalk!!!!!!!!!
28 Nov 2009, 16:58 pm
Schalk Burger you monster!
28 Nov 2009, 16:58 pm
Schalk scores from the backline!
28 Nov 2009, 16:59 pm
SA 7 – IRE 3 after 16
28 Nov 2009, 16:59 pm
@Xhosaskid:
Speak sense you puf00n
28 Nov 2009, 16:59 pm
What is Burger thinking.
28 Nov 2009, 17:00 pm
about time thats better. Now just keep running at them and we take this game easy in our stride. Kick it up in the air and give them the momentum back.
28 Nov 2009, 17:00 pm
And Burger drops the ball.
28 Nov 2009, 17:01 pm
TAFFYIX you must be a shark …. uninformed supporter. Maku !!!!!
28 Nov 2009, 17:01 pm
Schalkie you legend! Brilliant
28 Nov 2009, 17:02 pm
@Xhosaskid: 54
Whatever mate…
Lets just enjoy the game
28 Nov 2009, 17:02 pm
Desperate defence – keep them out PLEASE!!!!
28 Nov 2009, 17:03 pm
Geez, Nigel, when two players are shielding the runner from tacklers, that’s obstruction
28 Nov 2009, 17:03 pm
Our scrum is dominating! John Smit you legend. XhosaKid get off the drugs
28 Nov 2009, 17:03 pm
Okay!!!
28 Nov 2009, 17:05 pm
Phew! relief
28 Nov 2009, 17:05 pm
Brilliant defence from the Boks.
28 Nov 2009, 17:06 pm
Haha, temp seems to be rising!
28 Nov 2009, 17:07 pm
Drop goal Morne Steyn SA 10 Ireland 3 23 minutes
28 Nov 2009, 17:07 pm
SA 10 – IRE 3 after 23
28 Nov 2009, 17:07 pm
drop! 10-3 yes!
28 Nov 2009, 17:07 pm
Morne Steyn you beauty!!!
28 Nov 2009, 17:08 pm
Geez, you guys are fast!
28 Nov 2009, 17:11 pm
Steyn has put in two huge tackles.
28 Nov 2009, 17:11 pm
lol Habana must keep the moustache
28 Nov 2009, 17:11 pm
@BlouBokkie: 70
Hell no!!! lol
28 Nov 2009, 17:14 pm
SA 10 – IRE 6 after 29
28 Nov 2009, 17:14 pm
10-6
28 Nov 2009, 17:14 pm
damn Ireland 6 SA 10 @29 minutes
28 Nov 2009, 17:15 pm
Brussow off his feet.
28 Nov 2009, 17:15 pm
@TaffyIX: Yes! Don’t you think it makes him look erm….distinguished?
28 Nov 2009, 17:15 pm
Burger looking much beter today IMO.
28 Nov 2009, 17:16 pm
lol BBC commentator just called Habana Obama…
28 Nov 2009, 17:16 pm
@BlouBokkie:
sort of! haha
28 Nov 2009, 17:17 pm
50/50 calls are going against us right now. Referee needs to show fairness here.
28 Nov 2009, 17:18 pm
Nice steal Schalk!
28 Nov 2009, 17:19 pm
Brilliant tackling Bokke!
28 Nov 2009, 17:20 pm
Nice objectivity from the ref here.
28 Nov 2009, 17:20 pm
hmmmm. Bowe tackled Fourie without the ball!
28 Nov 2009, 17:23 pm
If we can get our lineouts going then we’ll win convincingly.
BoD is an idiot for that one and at least the ref saw that one.
28 Nov 2009, 17:24 pm
Brian O’Driscoll very naughty.
28 Nov 2009, 17:24 pm
Has anyone got a picture yet. The vanilla project does not exist according to my ISP.
28 Nov 2009, 17:25 pm
@AiDoc: It’s streaming
28 Nov 2009, 17:26 pm
I’ll say this early – these IRB f@#%*ng refs are on the take – that’s the only explanation for this pathetic screeching excuse of a welshman – **** this game and the IRB!!
28 Nov 2009, 17:26 pm
can you guys please post a link?
28 Nov 2009, 17:27 pm
@sglazer: would you mind sharing a link?
28 Nov 2009, 17:29 pm
Jaque Fourie having a great game. World class. WO decent on defense.
Scrum is dominating
28 Nov 2009, 17:29 pm
justin . tv forward slash projectvanilla
It’s a bit sticky though [!]
28 Nov 2009, 17:30 pm
@sglazer: thanks a lot! I’ll give it a try.
28 Nov 2009, 17:30 pm
@AiDoc:
I’ve got it no problem.
28 Nov 2009, 17:30 pm
@Sports_Fan: Ed the Lion has put one on Rugby Talk..something about Justin TV project vanilla!
28 Nov 2009, 17:32 pm
Keep it tight and slow boys! No stupid subs please!
Curse Smal for out lineout woes:)
28 Nov 2009, 17:33 pm
Suprisingly WO has done rather well, but I would like to see Jean there.
Either way, they’re both better than Jacobs.
28 Nov 2009, 17:34 pm
Ireland are strong on the counter attack. Signs of a long season for SA.
28 Nov 2009, 17:36 pm
Transformation
I hope you can see how MUCH we miss Frans Steyn right now. He would have kicked both over. I like Kirchner but Frans is miles ahead when it comes to BMT to any other fullback in SA.
28 Nov 2009, 17:37 pm
@savethespringbok:
Miles ahead, except for perhaps Terblanche?
28 Nov 2009, 17:38 pm
Morne Steyn not our answer at fly half. This kick and chase game going to sink us. If we were running this game wide all day long we’d be way ahead by now. This up and under **** is going to kill springbok rugby. M. Steyn not the answer to our back line stagnancy he’s the cause of it, and Fdp not much better. Get some proper running distributing half backs into this side. Fdp and Steyn busy killing our back line game. Kick and chase is not rugby. Carry on with this rubbish and prepare to lose.
28 Nov 2009, 17:39 pm
Did anyone see the knock from the fullback just before BOD played Fourie without the ball?
Getting good feed from myp2p.eu
28 Nov 2009, 17:40 pm
@TaffyIX: when has Terreblanche won anything for the Sharks, especially under pressure… the only thing he is miles ahead of Steyn is age
28 Nov 2009, 17:42 pm
We must thank Ireland for the metres gained from their woeful handling.
28 Nov 2009, 17:43 pm
hahahaha, WHAT A SCRUM!!!!
28 Nov 2009, 17:44 pm
Morne what’s up bru!?
28 Nov 2009, 17:45 pm
irish commentator: “blood substitution cj van der lind for beast xxxx???”
28 Nov 2009, 17:47 pm
who else can kick…..what the hell morne steyn?
28 Nov 2009, 17:48 pm
thats a bullshit call for a high tackle…
28 Nov 2009, 17:48 pm
What the f*ck?
28 Nov 2009, 17:48 pm
SA 10 – IRE 9 after 47
28 Nov 2009, 17:49 pm
that was NOT high!
28 Nov 2009, 17:49 pm
Contrary to what the Irish commentators are saying, that was NOT high
28 Nov 2009, 17:50 pm
never high! what the hell??
28 Nov 2009, 17:51 pm
now we are going to play against the ref and begin to think about 3 attempts missed. Ireland tails up, do I hate their commentators though……….
28 Nov 2009, 17:52 pm
Are you guys blind, that was a high tackle, anything around the neck
28 Nov 2009, 17:52 pm
Steyn costing us a game. Commentator “steyn deserved that…..”
28 Nov 2009, 17:53 pm
we’re simply not playing well enough to win this game
28 Nov 2009, 17:53 pm
I saw that one but it wasn’t that bad. He dropped him? from where?
28 Nov 2009, 17:53 pm
bekker taking on bakkies enforcing role there…
28 Nov 2009, 17:53 pm
SA 10 – IRE 12 after 51
28 Nov 2009, 17:54 pm
BO***CKS!
28 Nov 2009, 17:54 pm
Before we start blaming the officials…..
I still believe that we are good enough to win this.
28 Nov 2009, 17:56 pm
Jaque Fourie losing the ball in the tackle
28 Nov 2009, 17:59 pm
Boks discipline are letting them down
28 Nov 2009, 18:01 pm
morne steyn having a huge defensive game…so much for him costing us the match…
28 Nov 2009, 18:03 pm
Did anyone esle see that obstruction on the side of the ruck? What the f*ck is going on here. The linesmen have spotted everything and missed that one.
28 Nov 2009, 18:03 pm
Mmm Bokke looking a little tired. Still thinking we can win this. Ref is having a good game I think.
28 Nov 2009, 18:03 pm
Stupid Danie Rossouw
28 Nov 2009, 18:04 pm
I would not have taken off Steyn. And neither BJ.
28 Nov 2009, 18:04 pm
There’s no way our Boks want to win this – we look like we’re making up time…Ireland look hungry – why is this always the case – other teams always look hungrier than us WTF!!!!!
28 Nov 2009, 18:05 pm
I know what we should do. Why don’t we kick some more up-and-unders.
I mean … it’s been working so well this far
28 Nov 2009, 18:05 pm
Hope we dont need to kick for goal, Ruan is on at 10. fok, please prove me wrong bud
28 Nov 2009, 18:05 pm
Nigel Owens having a better game than his fellow officials.
28 Nov 2009, 18:06 pm
WE’ve got to STOP kicking the ball away – GAD DAMMIT!
28 Nov 2009, 18:07 pm
YES!!! welcome back Jean!
28 Nov 2009, 18:07 pm
Why the **** did stupid helium bring Bismark on?
WTF! penalties, missed throw ins, weaker scrum.
28 Nov 2009, 18:07 pm
we’re croaked – we suck today!
28 Nov 2009, 18:08 pm
Our scrums considerably weaker.
28 Nov 2009, 18:08 pm
See … we should kick more…
F*ck….
28 Nov 2009, 18:08 pm
Well done Ruan. Stupid twat
28 Nov 2009, 18:09 pm
Time to mute the Irish commentators [s]
28 Nov 2009, 18:09 pm
Game over – f**king done man, these guys should have their pay docked for this tour – they have no interest in winning, I mean, this is Ireland – teaching us a lesson…
28 Nov 2009, 18:09 pm
It was in his possesion!! What the f*ck ref!!
28 Nov 2009, 18:09 pm
SA 10 – IRE 15 after 65
28 Nov 2009, 18:09 pm
You guys are way over the top with your comments. Were either brilliant or terrible. How about some nuance.
28 Nov 2009, 18:10 pm
This is hard to watch. I get a minute every now and then and it looks like the S14 final in Christchurch.
28 Nov 2009, 18:10 pm
Have faith b0ys.
28 Nov 2009, 18:11 pm
how biased and ridiculous can commentators be!!!!!!!!!!!!!
“SA boring us to death with kicking for 63 minutes….”
we are playing NO rugby but that was not necessary, who the hell do they think they are???? irish asshholes
28 Nov 2009, 18:11 pm
@Sports_Fan: Your comments are disrespectful to rugby and Ireland.
Grow up.
28 Nov 2009, 18:11 pm
@Sports_Fan:
They’re tired.
28 Nov 2009, 18:12 pm
the bumbling boks are rather embarrassing.
where does the problem lie, with the players or the coaches?
28 Nov 2009, 18:12 pm
@AiDoc: yeah I know, I just hate seeing us lose!
28 Nov 2009, 18:13 pm
@allamapstieks: listen chump, go to Ireland if you want to support them…
28 Nov 2009, 18:14 pm
Pienaar misses a tackle, Pietersen tackles well again.
28 Nov 2009, 18:14 pm
@savethespringbok: yeah, I muted them a long time ago – I thought the Aussie commentators were bad, but these guys are right up there.
28 Nov 2009, 18:15 pm
Oi! Try to enjoy the rugby guys!
Boks are still in this ffs!
28 Nov 2009, 18:15 pm
@fish out of water: I think they’re tired…who knows!
28 Nov 2009, 18:15 pm
@Sports_Fan: It’s got nothing to do with who I support, its got to do with decency. We don’t need nobheads for fans.
28 Nov 2009, 18:15 pm
@AiDoc: Agreed.
28 Nov 2009, 18:16 pm
@Sports_Fan: How old are you boetman?
28 Nov 2009, 18:16 pm
As much tackles Morne Steyn made he also missed a few as well
28 Nov 2009, 18:17 pm
We could still win this. Need to settle the nerves.
28 Nov 2009, 18:17 pm
We need a breakaway try and good-night nurse
28 Nov 2009, 18:17 pm
@fish out of water: During the game? Why are you here. F*ck off buddy!
28 Nov 2009, 18:17 pm
@allamapstieks: with a name like yours maybe you should answer that very question – lightweight!
28 Nov 2009, 18:18 pm
I thought that the kicks would stop when Pienaar came on, but he’s just as bad as Steyn.
WTF!!???!?
28 Nov 2009, 18:18 pm
Bismarck steals it.
28 Nov 2009, 18:19 pm
And then we hold on to it.
28 Nov 2009, 18:19 pm
The trick to beating Ireland is to wear black. IT BRINGS BACK THE CHILD HOOD MEMories of nuns and other bu g gers.
28 Nov 2009, 18:19 pm
Looks like 3 losses in a row to Ireland in Ireland.
28 Nov 2009, 18:20 pm
Who to blame now, the senior players ?
28 Nov 2009, 18:20 pm
Were still in it.
28 Nov 2009, 18:20 pm
He said “hands off” and they kept them there but then he goes and blows against us. 50/50 calls were against us all game and thats what I’m basing this supposed loss on.
28 Nov 2009, 18:21 pm
Calm down guys. It is an end of year tour. See it for what it is. Indiscipline is costing us.
28 Nov 2009, 18:21 pm
It aint over yet
28 Nov 2009, 18:22 pm
We need a global season. NH sends tired teams to the South at the end of their season and vice-versa.
28 Nov 2009, 18:22 pm
Boks completely outplayed today thanks to Div’s 1-dimensional kicking game. Possession kicked away at every opportunity.
28 Nov 2009, 18:22 pm
@AiDoc: Thats a disgusting and inappropriate comment for a rugby board
28 Nov 2009, 18:22 pm
@Charlie:
No the administrators for making them play 11 months a year.
28 Nov 2009, 18:23 pm
reasons why SA lost.
1.the ref
2.Tim Noakes said so
3.John Robbie said so
4.winning against NH sides is not so important
5.the crowd
6.to many games
28 Nov 2009, 18:23 pm
Come on Boks.
28 Nov 2009, 18:24 pm
We look so good with ball in hand, but it’s too little too late
28 Nov 2009, 18:24 pm
@Jiggie: the guys may be tired but there is no excuse for them playing as they are
you don’t expect the test team to be making such silly club level errors. sure they are tired but they are also look under coached.
28 Nov 2009, 18:24 pm
@Slai:
The truth hurts but it will set you free!
28 Nov 2009, 18:24 pm
Oh my f*cking word Bryan!!!
28 Nov 2009, 18:24 pm
@Kryger: yup
28 Nov 2009, 18:25 pm
Well most professions are 11 months work and 1 month leave.
28 Nov 2009, 18:25 pm
A bit bipolar from Bob Skinstad. He was doom and gloom for most of this half.
28 Nov 2009, 18:26 pm
I hope we score so we can shut up our own stupid fans
28 Nov 2009, 18:26 pm
It’s a long season plus SA have the extra travel in the Super 14 and Tri-Nations
28 Nov 2009, 18:27 pm
@Charlie: In a suit and tie
28 Nov 2009, 18:28 pm
Booooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
28 Nov 2009, 18:28 pm
@sglazer:
The travel is not a reason anymore with five franchises and three home games.
28 Nov 2009, 18:28 pm
Big scrum here boys!!!! SPARTANS!!!!!
28 Nov 2009, 18:28 pm
@allamapstieks:
agreed
28 Nov 2009, 18:29 pm
@AiDoc: It is. Do the math.
28 Nov 2009, 18:29 pm
Scrummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
28 Nov 2009, 18:29 pm
Why the boks lost: 5 first team players not playing.
28 Nov 2009, 18:30 pm
Damn…. well played Irish.
Enjoy the holiday Boks! You certainly need it lol
28 Nov 2009, 18:30 pm
What the f*ck was that? Are you kidding me?
28 Nov 2009, 18:30 pm
Well done Ireland.
The one thing I hate about our team is just like England we seem to have very many ungracious and arrogant fans.
It was a mistake to BJ Botha off the field. John Smit’s throwing in was terrible.
28 Nov 2009, 18:30 pm
The heroes of our SH season, FdP and M Steyn, cost us our NH tour.
28 Nov 2009, 18:31 pm
Morne Steyn 1/10
28 Nov 2009, 18:31 pm
The travel is exactly the same for everyone. You do the math and you will find that Europe is closer to RSA than Australasia via Hong Kong.
28 Nov 2009, 18:32 pm
Thanks to the Paddies, NZ no 1 all summer long.
28 Nov 2009, 18:34 pm
Bismark rating 0.5/10
De villiers is a ****** for taking Smit
28 Nov 2009, 18:34 pm
too much rugby for the key players. No New Zealander played in a S14 final, British and Irish Lions series, and then a domestic final altogether> I am talking about players such as Matfield, Du Preez, Bakkies, Habana, Morne Steyn, and then no Pierre Spies. Key players not firing due to too much good rugby in one year. But hats off to Ireland, they played very well and took their chances. definitely not better than the Boks, that is for sure. I would much rather lose to Ireland, than lose the BIL.
28 Nov 2009, 18:36 pm
NZ to lose to France.
Dont count your chickens
28 Nov 2009, 18:37 pm
@savethespringbok: Yeah … that is the bottom line. Our players are knackered.
28 Nov 2009, 18:37 pm
For moving Smit to 3 I mean
28 Nov 2009, 18:38 pm
We can`t beat Ireland or France away from home. This has been a fact for a few seasons now. In general, we strugggle to beat any side away from home. We do not have a great team. The up-and-under rubbish worked in the SH but not in the NH where those guys are used to this kind of play. We need to change our game plan promply because this **** is not going to work next year against the AB`s and Aus either. We lose to Ireland FFS.
28 Nov 2009, 18:38 pm
Dont think too much rugby is a good excuse. It’s there job!
28 Nov 2009, 18:38 pm
There was talk a few years back of the boks joining the six nations, maybe you guys should Italy need someone to battle for the wooden spoon haha
28 Nov 2009, 18:39 pm
Steyn ).03/10
Du Preez 1.5/10
Tactics 0/10
Meisiekind -9/10
28 Nov 2009, 18:40 pm
That was the worst Bok performance I’ve seen this team perform since 2007.
drop the lot, styart again
Smit – ous
Matfield – ous
CJ – ous
Roussouw – ous
Burger – hang in by your finger nails.
Fdp – M.Steyn drop them get some proper half backs that know how the f’ck to get a back line working.. those two palooka’s lost this game with every up and under kick they could muster. Slow useless service. get rid of those two overrated hasbeens
Start again.. get a new captain.. should be Watson.. and get shot of this bunch of overrated useless idiots. the lot of them.
28 Nov 2009, 18:40 pm
@WP_:
Even if we lose it won’t matter for the rankings.
28 Nov 2009, 18:44 pm
Even the useless Aussies are better travellers than our palookas. Bloody useless headless chickens.
28 Nov 2009, 18:45 pm
Well done the Oirish! Bad luck Boks but I guess this as on the cards.
So it was all Kanko’s fault? He wasn’t playing today.
Where the Boks went wrong:
Kirschwasser 0 – Frans 10 no comparison. Strange they didn’t call on Frans as Zane is out of his element and league.
Dannie 0 – Spies 5 – Kanko 10. In soft underfoot Kanko is far better than these tow. Not even debatable.
Schalk, scored 1 try otherwise not on the field. 1 point. Why didn’t they put on Deysel???
Bekker 0 – Bakkies 10 – Was bekker on the field? No line takes (and that’s his strong point!). Otherwise totally anonymous.
And the best part:
M Steyn shows he is no where near international standard. Last week, ah it was the ball…. I guess he’s best bet is to play Gridiron where he can kick and then leave the field. It was awsemome how the Boks had ‘go forward’ when Ruan came on. Almost won the match against all odds. M. Steyn should only play in the SH. He simply is not up to scratch in conditions other than dry. Probably missed more conversions, drops and line kicks on the winter tour than anyone before him.
Biggest problem is that with FDP, MS and JF JPP is never going to see the ball. They cannot play to the right.
Big plus is that maybe Adi and Kanko are not that bad and that Bulls/WP players are not as good as their fans would want to believe?
28 Nov 2009, 18:47 pm
Sorry Lads,our game is far too one dimensional.Backline play
non existent.Tactical kicking and goal kicking not up to
scratch.
Once Steyn started missing penalty kicks, the Boks had nothing else to offer.So who and what is to blame.
Firstly very poor selections and even poorer coaching
because it all starts up front in the front row.
Because kicking plays such a vital role and once Steyn went of
the boil there was no back up goal kicker.Again poor selection. Why was Frans Steyn not called to play in this
vital match? He has shown that he can kick long range penalties. Kirchner had a good game but must be able
to take kicking over if fly half misses too many.
Why on earth resort to deep kick offs if no forward is able
to contest.Once again with the upper hand in the scrum our
loose forwards dont keep on scrumming and put the opposition
under pressure.To rely on Brussow’s solo efforts at the
breakdown is ludicrous.Far too many individual efforts.
28 Nov 2009, 18:50 pm
Drop FdP and M. Steyn that is where the cancer starts and ends.
Useless bunch of no hope half backs that know only one thing, boot to leather sweet f’all else. Kak sleg palooka rugby players the both of them. killed the game dead. idiots.
Start again.
get shot of the dead wood.. start again. Do it now or have 2 more years of snot n trane
Get shot of rubbish overrated players all of them.
28 Nov 2009, 18:50 pm
@skopskiet:
I agree with FDP/MS but what about Bekker? He was as useless as a pig at a Barmitzvah. Same goes for Burger. there on past exploits. He isn’t delivering. Scrub them both.
Houghard on the bench? Worst showing of any Bok in my recollection – why was he there?
The front row was great. The rest abysmal. Just shows that one needs brains for go forward. Not brawn.
No problem with FDP getting enough ball, just shows his limitations as well as Rousouws supposed ‘genius’ in the back line.
28 Nov 2009, 18:53 pm
This year we proved that we can win the 3N and that we can dominate NZ. I think that in 2010 we should have a rotation policy to build our depth and manage our top players.
We must also be smarter and more adaptable. Today there was very little of PdV’s total rugby – we were stuck in a rut and did not adapt to the game.
28 Nov 2009, 18:56 pm
You can only play as well as the opposition allow.
And to be fair lads, this is a VERY good Irish team. Well coached and full of leaders.
Lets just bite the bullet and accept that we were outplayed.
The days of Ireland being a **** team are LONG gone.
28 Nov 2009, 19:00 pm
@TaffyIX:
Thats an expression losers use to console each other after defeat. Ireland aren’t anything great, New Zealand would have ran them over today.
28 Nov 2009, 19:01 pm
@AiDoc:
There is a total of more games in the Super 14 and Tri-Nations that SA travel more. The end-of-year tours for NZ and Australia make up some of the ground, but not all. SA still travel more than NZ and Australia and the difference remains significant.
28 Nov 2009, 19:02 pm
For SA, the end-of-year tour should be used purely for introducing new talent to international rugby, with just a back-bone of experienced players.
28 Nov 2009, 19:04 pm
220. skopskiet
No FDP got very slow ball and with Ireland on the off side
line and pack not taking ball forward our 9 and 10 were
always going to be under pressure.
We have to adopt the All Blacks play and keep on driving the opposition backwards and control the ball in the pick and drive.The All Blacks did that very successful against the
heavy English pack.
The problem with South African rugby, far too many forwards
in the backline obstructing our backs.Ireland just were
more organised.Remember the Boks missed at least 12 points
in penalty kicks and needed only two to secure victory.
Now this was not a last minute arranged tour, so why were
the European rugby balls not flown in so that our kickers
could get used to them?
28 Nov 2009, 19:04 pm
@WP_: That’s simple, one-dimensional thinking
28 Nov 2009, 19:04 pm
This was an ideal opportunity for players like Earl Rose, Ashley Johnson and jonke Nokwe to stake their claim.At least they would have given it their all.
28 Nov 2009, 19:05 pm
@sglazer:
We have just been to Tokyo, Cardiff back to Italy over to England and now back to France and they still haven’t breached our try line, perhaps you just weren’t good enough on this tour thats why you have been beaten 4 times in 5 matches.
28 Nov 2009, 19:08 pm
@NZINCHINA:
sad but true
28 Nov 2009, 19:09 pm
Ireland is sh_t and the All Blacks would have crushed them today
28 Nov 2009, 19:10 pm
@NZINCHINA:
The travel is uneven. NZ travel less than SA. That’s why the Boks were tired on tour.
28 Nov 2009, 19:11 pm
@NZINCHINA:
True
I think the All blacks will once again be the team to beat next year.
28 Nov 2009, 19:12 pm
@sglazer:
What an excuse?
28 Nov 2009, 19:12 pm
tactics were awful. Ref pathetic.
Schalk had a good game. Bismark was atrocious when he came on, rubbish sub
28 Nov 2009, 19:13 pm
South Africa need to blood new players and fast as they risk making the same mistake Australia made post 91
28 Nov 2009, 19:14 pm
@rugby lover:
It’s an excuse when it’s a reflection of reality. SA travel more. They do. The leading players were tired on this tour.
Selections should have covered for this fact. In my opinion, we should be using the end-of-year tour to blood new players.
Unfortunately our administrators are slow and unclear.
28 Nov 2009, 19:15 pm
@WP_:
I thought the ref did quite well.
Rather two calls from the touches that were a bit dubious.
28 Nov 2009, 19:15 pm
It’s not an excuse when it’s a reflection of reality …
28 Nov 2009, 19:16 pm
Anyone could see the Boks were slow today. The leading players are tired.
28 Nov 2009, 19:16 pm
@sglazer:
I really agree with blooding the new players.
The results could not have been worse in any case.
28 Nov 2009, 19:17 pm
Bok team to go forward
Vd Merwe, Beast
Liebenberg, Strauss
BJ, WP Nel, K.Buys
Sykes, Steenkamp
Bekker, Matfield
Brussow, Potgieter
Louw, Deysel
Vermeulen, Alberts
S. Pretorius
Pienaar
Habana
De Jongh
Fourie
Mapoe
Viljoen, F.Steyn
get shot of dead wood, do it.
28 Nov 2009, 19:24 pm
No rugby lover.
The ref missed a whole lot. The majority of it went against the Boks
28 Nov 2009, 19:24 pm
@NZINCHINA:
You have to look at the whole year, not just the end-of-year tours
28 Nov 2009, 19:27 pm
The AB`s see these tours as a mission to strengthen their rugby dominance over the NH. Our guys see it as a burden. This is the difference between us and them. We have lost our aura.
28 Nov 2009, 19:29 pm
@Springbokvel:
They travel less. Our leading players are tired. Our management does not adjust for this.
28 Nov 2009, 19:31 pm
YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!
Good game boys, this is probably the best time in Irish Rugby history. Good to see the players hugging it out at the end as well.
28 Nov 2009, 19:32 pm
@jockstrap:
We got it. Thanks [s].
28 Nov 2009, 19:33 pm
Kak we just soft in the f’ng head, bang broek sh’t scared chickens.
We should have won all 5 games on tour – NOT only ITALY.
Pathetic .. useless.. no ideas… kak sleg… zero strategy… skop en trek rugby all F’ng 80 minutes long..
Hopeless … usleless palookas.
FDP. Smit. M.Steyn. OUT
Start again, I’m telling you, we don’t get it right now its tickets for WC… all the way back to the drawing board,.. or read the writing on the wall loud and clear and START AGAIN NOW!
28 Nov 2009, 19:37 pm
We are not tired. We are ****. Lame excuse. Half the team had three weeks off before the first test on the tour and the others had 2 weeks off.
28 Nov 2009, 19:38 pm
People can’t blame the ref. He didn’t blow anything wrong just missed a couple things.
28 Nov 2009, 19:39 pm
250
That is De villiers fault! fire the useless palooka!
28 Nov 2009, 19:46 pm
@lightie:
Ya like the SA player dropping a Knee on and Irish players head. Also high tacklw WHILE OFFSIDE.
28 Nov 2009, 21:45 pm
Hmmm… the anthem-singing cost them the game. Again.
And the grass was too long. The light breeze wasn’t breezy enough. The young lady sitting in Row 11 wore a top that was too pink. The cop car driving past the stadium had a siren that broke the “world champions’” concentration just as they were preparing for a crucial scrum on the half-line. The loo paper in the chage-rooms was also too gritty. And the ref…
It’s the IRB’s fault.
29 Nov 2009, 04:14 am
@skopskiet: #215
I thought oom Danie had a good game.
VM was KAK.
FdP was KAK.
Morne was KAK.
WO was nog KAKKER.
Funny. The last three are all BB back line players.
@Kryger: #180
You forgot PdV.
29 Nov 2009, 04:42 am
@savethespringbok: #207
NZ players play in the S12 final nearly every year and then go to Europe and win their matches. Don’t be a KOEK man.
In the 52 minute J Fourie took up the ball and was tackled by the opposition. Next thing the Irish scrum-half passed the ball to one of his team-mates. I wonder if Hondo saw that because I’m sure he would’ve if it was ADI.
Boy. am I glad ADI did not play yesterday. I can’t wait to see who the fall guy will be on Sunday.
29 Nov 2009, 04:42 am
@skopskiet:
Skop @ 100.
You really ARE a very astute man. Just looking at yr comments and relating them to time in the match. Ive said the same thing about Steyn, not enough variation to win big matches, esp on away terms. Good player tho. Just not enough outside the awesome kicking skills. Atleast RP threatened the line, FFS. Didnt do it, but it felt like it was coming.
29 Nov 2009, 04:48 am
@allamapstieks:
@ 201 – You sir, give your countrymen a well overdue nod of respect and a firmer than usual handshake.
Puma, you are not the only one afterall.
Respec !
29 Nov 2009, 05:01 am
@Brentie1: #227
Are you saying that Morne “The Machine” Steyn could not get use to them in three weeks over there?
Let’s come up with another one, please.
No, stop the excuses. We lost against a better team on the day. ou cannot win if you don’t score points. In the 24th minute of the first half, Steyn dropped to give us a lead of 10-3. For the next 56minutes of the game, we scored ZERO points. Now you want to say it is the fault of the Bok management for not importing the Gilbert ball so that Morne can practise with it? When was he suppose to do it? The same week while he was practising with the “SA balls” for the CC final?
I REPEAT: WE LOST AGAINST A BETTER TEAM ON THE DAY.
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