And the winners are …
2 Dec 2009
Keo.co.za picks the real winners and losers of 2009.
THE HEROES
Test Player of the Year – How the IRB overlooked Fourie du Preez for their Player of the Year award in favour of Richie McCaw is perplexing. He was the fulcrum around which the Springboks rotated in the British & Irish Lions series and in the Tri-Nations. Seven of the nine judges are from the northern hemisphere, where the All Blacks are revered, while selection convenor John Eales is known to be anti-Bok. Testament to this is that he wanted Juan Martin Hernandez named World Player of the Year in 2007 ahead of the irrepressible Bryan Habana. Thankfully sanity prevailed that time, but it seems he has had his revenge. Despite the unbelievable call, Du Preez should be content in the knowledge that we think he’s the business. That’s all that matters. Victor Matfield was phenomenal and Heinrich Brüssow established himself as the finest openside flank on the planet in 2009, but Du Preez’s consistent brilliance earns him the prize.
Test Rookie of the Year – Who else but the prolific Morné Steyn. One should never underestimate the mental strength it took for him to come off the bench in the second Lions Test, have a short while to settle, then kick a 50m series-winning penalty to banish 12 years of heartache. He then carried his form into the Tri-Nations and showed that he had the aptitude to not only survive, but excel, against the world’s best players.
Test Young Gun of the Year – Since his rise to prominence in 2008, Dewald Potgieter had Springbok written all over him. He resembles a rookie Schalk Burger – bustling, powerful and fearless – and looks the natural successor to the Springbok treasure. His debut against Ireland was too brief to establish his capacity to play at Test level, but he’ll get more opportunities in future, and will develop into one of the great Springboks. Francois Hougaard didn’t show the full range of his ability on tour, but be assured, he is a quality scrumhalf, one who Fourie du Preez has tipped to succeed him.
Mighty Mouse Award – The physique of a juiced-up dwarf but the heart the size of South Africa and wonderful skills to boot – Heinrich Brüssow turned in some sensational performances in 2009. When he was burning white hot he was unstoppable, and even when he was ordinary he still made his presence felt, particularly at the breakdown. By the end of the season, the France and Ireland players couldn’t stop talking about him as the primary threat, which bears testament to the telling impact he’s made in 2009. Schalk who? Nah, kidding, but if Brüssow is anywhere near as good as he was this season in 2010, there may not be so much jest to that statement when you read this awards piece next year.
Test Try of the Year – Jaque Fourie’s two-fingered salute to the Springbok coaching staff for omitting him from the starting line-up against the Lions. He came on, as a wing, and negotiated a number of defenders en route to the try that dragged the Springboks back into the contest, and ultimately saw them go on to win the series. Brilliant.
Coach of the Year – John Smit held the Springboks together and even made the substitution calls during the second Test after the coaching staff’s ‘mare at King’s Park. Read between the lines of his book and you’ll reach the same conclusion: without Smitty, the Boks are on auto-pilot.
With special mentions to: The Springbok Sevens side for winning their first ever title.
THE VILLAINS
The Foot in Mouth Award – He’s toned it down over the last six months, but the king retains his crown purely for the madcap utterances during the Lions series. From allusions to ballet to eye-gouging lions on the highveld, Peter de Villiers entertained as much as he embarrassed.
The Sultans of Spin – The British and Irish media for dubbing the Lions tour a resounding success despite a 2-1 scoreline in favour of the Boks. Those who are interested should visit their local newsagent for a look at tour books written by respected journalists that unequivocally claim the Lions so nearly won the series 3-0. Laughable.
The Wet Nappy Whinge Award – This accolade goes to a player referred to by some Boks as ‘The Wanker of the Tour’. Mike Phillips niggled on the field and was the sorest of losers off it after the Lions went down in Pretoria.
The Brain Explosion Award – Sireli Naqelevuki for his high-tackle in the dying seconds of the Currie Cup semi-final. When will he prove worth the money and effort Province produced to extract him from Fiji?
With special mention to: The IRB Awards panel – Honestly, what were you drinking when you named Richie McCaw the Player of the Year? He missed half the Tri-Nations through injury and was captain of a Crusaders side that bowed out in the Super 14 semi-finals. Fourie du Preez and Brian O’Driscoll were the only players in this race.
Worst boots-to-performance ratio - The most impressive thing about Lote Tuqiri’s rugby these days is his flashy boots.
Dirtiest attempt at a moustache – Matt Giteau’s was pretty gross and Drew Mitchell won’t keep any photos of his, but the dirtiest Movember effort goes to Corey Jane.
By Jon Cardinelli and Ryan Vrede
326 Comments
2 Dec 2009, 05:24 am
Best blogger?
2 Dec 2009, 05:28 am
This JWWW home spin website is starting to read like a joke. Can’t you guys start couching your JW propaganda spin just a little more subtly or do you have to keep blurting it out with every syllable and sentence uttered?
2 Dec 2009, 05:32 am
This is hilarious…
“Test Player of the Year – How the IRB overlooked Fourie du Preez for their Player of the Year award in favour of Richie McCaw is perplexing. He was the fulcrum around which the Springboks rotated in the British & Irish Lions series and in the Tri-Nations. Seven of the nine judges are from the northern hemisphere, where the All Blacks are revered, while selection convenor John Eales is known to be anti-Bok. Testament to this is that he wanted Juan Martin Hernandez named World Player of the Year in 2007 ahead of the irrepressible Bryan Habana. Thankfully sanity prevailed that time, but it seems he has had his revenge. Despite the unbelievable call, Du Preez should be content in the knowledge that we think he’s the business. That’s all that matters. Victor Matfield was phenomenal and Heinrich Brüssow established himself as the finest openside flank on the planet in 2009, but Du Preez’s consistent brilliance earns him the prize.”
the part where NH are pro Black and John Eales is ant-bok.
Who smoked drugs and made this up.
It seems there is always an excuse for a Bok loss or loss of selection.
FDP is not that great he does not have a consistent effect on his side than what MCaw does.
2 Dec 2009, 05:35 am
Hernandez is a good player playing in a team of somewhat mediocrity.
Its not him choosing sides. we all kbnow how good hernandex was in the world cup.
Habana was on the receiving end of strong Bok side whilst hernandez made the Pumas look good.
Hernandez is a playmaker and Habana is a catch and run player.
2 Dec 2009, 05:38 am
The Wet Nappy Whinge Award – the Boks after losing to Ireland. eye gouge affair. And the national anthem singer distracted us.
2 Dec 2009, 05:45 am
@wallabie.: you forgot the armband saga, the travel excuses, quotas, Aussie/NZ reffing alliance (NH division), PDV… just scraping the surface…
2 Dec 2009, 05:45 am
@wallabie.:
mmmm wallaby you are showing your bias now (Is that not what we are talking about?) The AB’s shout eye gouge, with no video proof and they are not whinging? Come on mate, your trawling is getting tedious.
2 Dec 2009, 05:51 am
@poppa69:
yeah, you pooftas only mention travel when you play a game back in NZ after a short roadtrip to Africa. Why do you use it as an excuse then?
Forward passes, refs, travel (when it suits you) are all excuses I’ve heard from your lot as well ya schmuck. Add to that injuries, rotation, sack the coach cause he lost the WC and you have a sack of excuses just as high as the next team!
Time to do your rounds again…………go check all the doors are locked.
2 Dec 2009, 05:53 am
Would sure be a nice change when everyone starts getting just a little bit objective.
I guess patriotism and objectivity don’t usually go hand in hand but I’m sure we could still all try. Just a little.
2 Dec 2009, 05:54 am
@whatever: I cant have locked them all, your the one idiot that got out of his cage…
vatso katvis!!!
2 Dec 2009, 05:54 am
@whatever: Seems as if you live in NZ, why when you have such a problem with kiwis?
2 Dec 2009, 05:55 am
@skopskiet: Well said
2 Dec 2009, 05:58 am
@Waster:
Where did you read that mate? Read the full transcript and then come talk to me. No beef with the country or the people in general, just some of the a-holes who come on here having a go at my country and team. Just defending things dude!
2 Dec 2009, 05:59 am
@poppa69:
So, poppa why did you run your country? Real reason?
2 Dec 2009, 06:00 am
@whatever: because you moved there, and we already have enough ugly sheilas, but you must be happy with your Miss Ugly NZ award… congrats on that too…
2 Dec 2009, 06:01 am
@whatever: I just guessed, some of us actually come here to get unbiased opinions, like from Skopskiet,
Got to agree that it is a scary prospect if Brussow keeps on as he is going, good to see
2 Dec 2009, 06:03 am
@poppa69:
Good, don’t come back either dude, cause we taking over. At least I like shielas….
2 Dec 2009, 06:04 am
@Waster:
Hehe, unbiased opinions from skopskiet? Stick around dude, you in for a bumpy ride
2 Dec 2009, 06:04 am
@whatever: why did you leave SA ?? the fall of apartheid not to your liking huh?
2 Dec 2009, 06:06 am
@whatever: Been sticking around for a long time, just don’t post often, read number 9 for what I mean
2 Dec 2009, 06:06 am
@poppa69:
No, just felt like shagg’n some ugly shiela’s and there wern’t any in SA………..so I came to NZ. You know the old “hunt the grunt” comp?
2 Dec 2009, 06:06 am
@Waster:
He does have his momments……….
2 Dec 2009, 06:07 am
@whatever: hahaha no ugly sheilas in SA… thanks, proof that you are DELUSIONAL… try living in the real world mate..
2 Dec 2009, 06:08 am
What an intellectually stimulating start to the day. Such razor sharp wit and subtle verbal ripostes.
2 Dec 2009, 06:09 am
@whatever: I read some purely nasty stuff on here, at least his point is valid
2 Dec 2009, 06:10 am
@poppa69:
Enjoy your night shift dude. I must run. By the way, they paying you minimum wage there?
2 Dec 2009, 06:11 am
so its alright whatever for you to defend your country, but when we do it its not ok… quick, get back into your straight jacket and take some more medication…
you still havent answered why you left SA, guess my assumption was right huh…
2 Dec 2009, 06:12 am
@Waster:
he does have some good posts, occasional wit to, but unbiased? not really. Ask him about JW
2 Dec 2009, 06:12 am
@whatever: running off from the fight again mate… all bluster no substance, typical!
2 Dec 2009, 06:12 am
@poppa69: Entirely too many people like him in NZ
2 Dec 2009, 06:13 am
@poppa69:
No mate, decided that having a 9mm pointed at my head twice was once too many times. Reasonable decision I would have thought? But when it comes to reason, you were obviously not in the que!
2 Dec 2009, 06:15 am
@Waster:
Bud, I got no beef with you. How come it’s now okay for you to generalise? Two faced doos!
2 Dec 2009, 06:15 am
@Waster:
Oh, get use to it, there’s more comming. Maybe you should head over the ditch as well??
2 Dec 2009, 06:16 am
@Waster: I doubt that… honestly, its because he gets on his high horse about how we all attack his country, but its never the reverse, oh no… hes never derogatory about the country that provides him relative safety and a decent standard of living…
2 Dec 2009, 06:16 am
@David: Yeah sorry for my part in that, only usually come on here to read about rugby
2 Dec 2009, 06:18 am
@poppa69:
Yeah, yeah, yeah, just like Oz let you in and allowed you onto the dol until your cousin found you a cushy little security job. Get a life…..
2 Dec 2009, 06:21 am
@whatever: shame then they didnt actually pull the trigger mate, would have done us all a huge favour… as Ive told you countless times, I was head hunted to come to Aus, and I never bag it like you do NZ… it must be hard for you to fathom that some of us actually are good at our jobs, not lazy layabouts such as yourself…
Ive got a life, the fact your jealous of it says it all… lookout, hes got a cap gun, he may shoot you!!
2 Dec 2009, 06:23 am
@poppa69: What do you think of Pocock? Has he usurped George Smith for good? Is he potentially as good as Brussow?
2 Dec 2009, 06:24 am
ryan vrede & john cardinelli are undoubtedly the biggest tossers in south africa, our own Dumb & Dumber! How this guy won any journalism award just shows how low the standard of journalism is in our country!
Thank you to the IRB panel for not giving Fourie du Preez the award, saved us from another SARugby magazine cover with du preez’s receeding hairline & forlon mug.
2 Dec 2009, 06:25 am
@whatever: Do you support your local team in NZ? I mean club and provincial level rather than s14
2 Dec 2009, 06:27 am
@Waster: I think hes a decent player… not as good as Brussouw, who I genuinely think can surpass the feats of MCCaw, depending on the support he has around him… I think Pocock will be the preferred option, simply because he is willing to learn from the coach.. I think the senior aussie players have had too much sway in the past, and because of that are causing rifts in the Aussie camp… just my observations though.
2 Dec 2009, 06:27 am
@poppa69: hi pops, i see you’re still thundering on about things apartheid…
do you know what the outcome of steve hansen’s claim that “tony definitely got a facial” after the frnch game?
2 Dec 2009, 06:30 am
@poppa69: Yeah fair enough, I didn’t really rate him as high myself but I must keep a better look out,
2 Dec 2009, 06:32 am
@Transformation: hey Trans, nah mate… was just giving it to whatever, seems its the only type of discussion he enjoys… I dont know what is happening with that allegation, I didnt see it in the game or on any replays whatsoever.. but Ive never seen woodcock react that way before..
2 Dec 2009, 06:36 am
@Waster:
He is better than Brussow!
2 Dec 2009, 06:36 am
@Waster:
Looks like the Wobblies have decided that they need another African, like Gregan, to take them into the WC. Probably preparing for the influx of all the Saffas they’re trying to bring into the game in Australia.
2 Dec 2009, 06:38 am
@poppa69:
you say not as good as brussow but can surpass Macaw. maccaw is the best no doubt.
Brussow is okay but not excellent.
2 Dec 2009, 06:39 am
@David: thats the 22 year old lock isnt it ? even got a mention on the news here a few weeks back..
2 Dec 2009, 06:39 am
@David: Are you referring to Genia? Excellent player, even looks like Gregan which bloody reminds me every time of the “Four more years” incident.
2 Dec 2009, 06:40 am
@wallabie.: I meant Brussouw could surpass McCaw with the right people to complement his game… as with all flankers, if their supports arent up to it then they will always struggle in a game…
2 Dec 2009, 06:41 am
@wallabie.: You have to play consistantly well for a long time to be considered like McCaw and George Smith, Brussow definitely the most dynamic loosie I have seen from SA tho
2 Dec 2009, 06:42 am
@poppa69:
watch Brussow…he will be lost in a year or two.
2 Dec 2009, 06:43 am
Test Young gun of the year is a player who played a fraction of one test in which he did nothing in particular?
How about Ben Alexander, who accepted the burden of shifting from loosehead to tighthead and has helped turn the Wallabies scrum from the laughing stock of world rugby to one that demolished almost every team they played against?
Or David Pocock, the 20yr old who was MOTM against the Grand Slam champions and only team undefeated all season?
2 Dec 2009, 06:46 am
The Brain Explosion Award – how the heck could Nakalauqu(sp) get this award ahead of the convicted face mugger Burger? Well I guess the WP spin doctors (JC and Ryan) will do anything to protect their golden boy.
Dirtiest attempt at a moustache – In my book this has to go to Habana for that hideous thing that he stuck on his lip.
2 Dec 2009, 06:47 am
@DonutDunning: Yeah in spite of Australia’s horrible year, the scrum has been a huge leap forward, not an easy thing to do changing front row position either.
2 Dec 2009, 06:48 am
who is dewald potgieter?
2 Dec 2009, 06:50 am
@poppa69:
He’s one of them. The Aussie scouts, though, have been attending our youth and age group touraments in their droves. Looks like they’re targeting young rugby players, as part of their immigration drive, in the same way as they are any profession where there’s a shortage.
2 Dec 2009, 06:52 am
@wallabie.: I should have said potentially… like all newcomers the rest of the world are now aware of his talents, and its always harder the 2nd year at this level in any sport…
2 Dec 2009, 06:55 am
@David: Hes a big boy too… never seen him play… I guess with this age of professionalism we are going to see more and more of it… especially Aussie raiding NZ and SA… it is not one of their main sports here, so they do punch well above their weight…
@wallabie.: I watched Potgeiter in the S14 this year, he looks very much a talented player the few times I seen him… is a strong runner with vision and links really well.. a player of the future for sure..
2 Dec 2009, 06:56 am
@DonutDunning:
He also captained the emerging Boks when they drew against the B&IL.
Brussow still has a way to go before being compared to McCaw and Smith at their height. He’s a different type of player though as the other two are both distributors and link men as well as consumate ball stealers.
2 Dec 2009, 06:56 am
Dirtiest attempt at a mullet – Pick a kiwi from the hills
2 Dec 2009, 07:03 am
@poppa69:
Potgieter is going to pose a problem for us. He’s a lot closer to a George Smith type of player than he is a blindside. His prefered position is 8th man, where his skills really stand out. The problem is fitting him in to a balanced loose trio where there are so many contenders of differing skills and physical attributes. Dewald is a shade on the small side compared to most of todays international 8s and blindsides, so I wouldn’t be surprised if he was played more at openside.
2 Dec 2009, 07:04 am
@RedLion: Clint Newland, hands down
2 Dec 2009, 07:30 am
@David: I didnt know his preferred position was 8… agree he is a little small for that role, seems as a whole players are getting bigger..
2 Dec 2009, 07:35 am
No credit to PDV eh? I wonder if thats because this site has no business connection to him…
2 Dec 2009, 07:40 am
There is no doubt that “Dewald Potgieter” has talent but is he really better than the likes of Duanne Vermuelen, Jean Deysel or Willem Alberts who are all currently much stronger than him as ball carriers and at the breakdown point.
It was very evident on this tour how easily we were out muscled at the breakdown and I’m afraid Dewald was one of though who would appear needs to allot of gym work before he can honestly claim to be of true international standard, mainly because of his size and upper body strength. There is nothing wrong with his commitment or efforts but his effectiveness is found wanting.
I agree with most the comments before that his only real chance is at 6, unfortunately for him there are heaps of very good young number 6′s around in this country which may hinder his international aspirations.
2 Dec 2009, 07:41 am
@RedLion: I also thought so, but fortunately I was listening to the commentators he did it in support of Movember month in support of I think it was cancer month (maybe I should have listened better
) it should be off by today 
2 Dec 2009, 07:46 am
@Sharksgirl: movember was for mens depression this year I believe
2 Dec 2009, 07:52 am
@poppa69:
Yeah, when you consider the guy is 1.90m and weighs 108kg and is still considered a bit too small for a flank, it makes you think. Thank god I’m not still playing the game.
2 Dec 2009, 07:57 am
@iceman:
Dewalds main strength, over the others, is his intelligent play as a link man and ability to find space. Which is something we’ve sorely lacked since the loss of Big Joe and Bobby.
2 Dec 2009, 08:08 am
@poppa69: Men’s depression? is there such a thing?
2 Dec 2009, 08:09 am
@Sharksgirl:
yeah, its living with woman that drives us to it lmfao
2 Dec 2009, 08:15 am
@poppa69:
What can I say, you can’t live with us but you can’t live without us! And then who sais its a mans world? 
2 Dec 2009, 08:20 am
So many ANZACS on, go blog on your own sites. Wallabie, you are a convict.
2 Dec 2009, 08:26 am
Brussow is a tremendous fetcher a skill that SA hasnt had a lot in supply over the last few years. He still needs tpo develop to be considered better than McCaw or Smith who have played at the highest levels for a long time.
FDP simply got tripped up in the home stretch by being involved in a dreadful november test series while McCaw started slower but came roaring home . I can believe iyt simply because evry year McCaw has been involved in international rugby he has been in contention for player of the year. he is a phenomenon.. a force of nature , George is bloody excellebnt as well and a credit to Tonga and australian rugby.
2 Dec 2009, 08:34 am
Test Player of the Year – FdP
Test Rookie of the Year – Heinrich Brussow
Test Young Gun of the Year – Heinrich Brussow
Mighty Mouse Award – Earl Rose
Test Try of the Year – Jaques Fourie
Try of the Year – Fabian Juries (Cheetahs vs Bulls)
Coach of the Year – PdViva!
The Foot in Mouth Award – Jake “I wouldn’t pick Heinrich Brussow!” White…
The Sultans of Spin – Keo & Co’s Winning Ways…
The Wet Nappy Whinge Award – The Bills…
The Brain Explosion Award – Schalk Burger
With special mention to – Paddy O’Brien…
Worst boots-to-performance ratio – Frumpy Robbie Deans and Jim (gone blank) in their ill-fitting gray suits and tan shoes…!!
Dirtiest attempt at a moustache – Stephen Moore’s Hitler impersonation
2 Dec 2009, 08:35 am
got my brain back in my head…
Jim Williams…
2 Dec 2009, 08:37 am
One of the worst articles I’ve ever seen on this steadily declining blog.
Morne Steyn had a mare during this End of Year Tour and showed himself to be a very limited player. Potgieter did notghing of note in the dirt-trackers outfit so for him to be named as “test Young Gun of the Year” for a brief cameo against Ireland is equally laughable.
Francois Hougaard single-handedly lost the dirt-trackers game when he came on at scrummie for Heinie yet he gets a special mention. The insinuation that John Smit has coached the Springboks this year is insulting and gutter journalism of the highest order.
2 Dec 2009, 08:41 am
Burp!
2 Dec 2009, 08:47 am
Why is there so much fuss always made about Richie McCaw?He often does illegal things on the field, but does not get penalised for it.Does that make one a great player,when you can cheat and get away with it.Same with George Smith.
2 Dec 2009, 08:52 am
Coach of the year: Paul Treu.
2 Dec 2009, 08:52 am
KEO and your evil minions
You bunch of unadulterated racists.
Where are the black people in your so-called “best” list.
2 Dec 2009, 08:53 am
Fools.
2 Dec 2009, 08:55 am
Agreed on the moustaches though.
SOOOOO last century.
2 Dec 2009, 08:56 am
@PissAnt:
True… I forgot Paul Treu…!!
2 Dec 2009, 09:02 am
Now I know why I dont read SA rugby mags anymore. The regular propaganda-like garbage in would put you completely off… I’ll use the extra R23.95 for some fish ‘n chips instead!
2 Dec 2009, 09:02 am
@Dawn: Do you want another category then? Quota player of the year?
2 Dec 2009, 09:02 am
@Dawn:
Hehehe,,,
Please Kinddly notice: Keo talks rugby proper here for a change
2 Dec 2009, 09:05 am
HAHAHAHA. The funniest thing written there. Coach of the year: John Smit.
lol, but sooo true. I salute you John, you make helium moustache face look good.
2 Dec 2009, 09:05 am
hahhaa
week in week out it seems we the bloggers are getting more and more fed up with the trash being dripped out by Keo and his scribes
yet we keep coming back for more
i dont know whether thats a good thing
maybe it is so that the truth comes out ..cos lets face it, if it wasnt for us..this gutter journalism would fly unchallenged
if a coach allows input from his world cup winners and captain..then coach of the yr is John Smit???
BLASPHEMY!
2 Dec 2009, 09:11 am
@Papoose: There’s only one thing that PdV is good at, and that’s creating a relaxed ad happy team environment. At all other levels, he’s hopeless. His tactics are naive and inflexible; his selections are questionable; his player management is dreadful; and his public profile is embarrassing.
2 Dec 2009, 09:12 am
@Sidewinder:
Why not?
There have to be a couple out there.
Obviously Keo and his fools missed them.
2 Dec 2009, 09:13 am
@Hondo:
Yes.
I kinnddly noticed.
White people rule rugby.
2 Dec 2009, 09:15 am
Why don’t they have the best and worst bloggers.
I would be proud to count myself among the Villains.
2 Dec 2009, 09:15 am
Test Player of the Year – FdP
Test Rookie of the Year – Heinrich Brussow
Test Young Gun of the Year – Jonathan Sexton
Mighty Mouse Award – Earl Rose
Test Try of the Year – All Blacks (against France) take your pick
Try of the Year – Spies (Bulls vs Chiefs)
Coach of the Year – Snor
The Foot in Mouth Award – Graham henry (Boks play boring rugby-then lose 3-0 and Boks only team in tri-nations to get bonus pt for 4 tries LOL)
The Sultans of Spin – Keo,his scribes and JWWW…
The Brain Explosion Award – Schalk Burger
With special mention to – BIL’s whining (very very poor)…
Dirtiest attempt at a moustache – Pdv, Pdiddy,Piet Snor,Helium,wee Maestro hehehehhehehehehehe (evil Laugh)
2 Dec 2009, 09:17 am
Anthem singer of the year :
Ras Dumisane.
The sole cause of the downfall of Springbok rugby into perpetuity.
2 Dec 2009, 09:17 am
@iceman:
Potgieter has some brain work that makes up for the 5 cm and 5 kg he gives away to Albert and Dyesel, not sure about Vermulen, his extra speed counts in too
I would like to add F louw from WP to the list.
Guess what? it were Ashley Johnson and Ruabenheimer who made the tour ahead of Albert, Vermulen and Louw, isn’t it wonderful?
2 Dec 2009, 09:18 am
@Dawn: Yes, but the whole point of quota players is that we must pretend that they are not quota players. We’re always expected to convince ourselves that players chosen for their colour are in fact chosen for their talent. A category called “Best quota player” kind of defeats the purpose.
2 Dec 2009, 09:20 am
@Sidewinder:
As Bob says ….. If The Cap Fits …….
2 Dec 2009, 09:26 am
@Dawn: They’ve got a separate list. And the cullerds got no list because of the Delicious Ceres and Rawsonville shitstorms.
2 Dec 2009, 09:26 am
@Papoose: #90
Thing is Keo and Co are viewing their opinions… Bought or otherwise… Just like all of us with all our own biases, hidden agendas and commercial interests… So who are we to really complain about them… sure… disagree with what they say…
But no other rugby site is as true to the principle of freedom of expression by the people who post on it…
and for that I genuinely admire Keo and his writers…
seriously..
2 Dec 2009, 09:26 am
@WP_:
The Sydney Morning Herald, the Auckland Herald and the London’s Daily Telegraphs repeated it some 4 months ago with details, they all stated it came from reliable sources
inside the Boks camp!
Have fun
2 Dec 2009, 09:27 am
My scenario: Boks vs All Blacks. Boks lead by one point. Stuart Dickenson is the ref! He awards AB’s a very dubious penalty in the last minute.
A) DC scores. AB win. Do we blame PdV?
B) DC misses. Boks win. Do we praise John Smit, Morne Steyn, FdP etc etc or give credit to PdV. What do you think Keo?
2 Dec 2009, 09:28 am
@Dawn: @Dawn: Black Quota Player Of The Year: Davon Raubenheimer
Happy now?
White Quota Player Of The Year it’s toss up between Herkie Kruger & Andries Strauss
2 Dec 2009, 09:31 am
@katman:
OK.
I give.
Thugs we are.
2 Dec 2009, 09:33 am
@RaynoG:
Blame P de V, of course.
@Pearl Rose:
Cool your jets.
Don’t mess with me.
2 Dec 2009, 09:34 am
It really looks like JC threw this together in two minutes after too many beers.
2 Dec 2009, 09:41 am
Coach of the year : John Smit.
And then there’s this:
“but the dirtiest Movember effort goes to Corey Jane.
By Jon Cardinelli and Ryan Vrede”
It’s November.
2 Dec 2009, 09:45 am
Congrats Jon and Ryan , you just took over from Simon and the worst jouro’s of the year LOL , read between the line ??? One up from “open Secrets” I guess !!
Did FDp not just say a few days ago state that he a large part of his decision to stay on is because of the bok management ???
You guys are a joke , this site is a joke nowadays with your **** 2 minute noodle reporting
2 Dec 2009, 09:45 am
What a kak article. Just agenda driven digs at Pdv. Pathetic.@Dawn: JC is working for his Xmas bonus. There is a minimum of Pdv hatred driven articles that must be written in a week and he was falling behind.
2 Dec 2009, 09:46 am
@poppa69: Nice….
2 Dec 2009, 09:50 am
@Dawn: the ‘mo’ in Movember stands for moustache – mo is short for moustache.
use it – don’t use it.
2 Dec 2009, 09:51 am
@Transformation: What I don’t understand is why the Boks got crucified here yesterday for doing the same thing as Woodcock?? In neither instances is there any evidence either way, but no-ones flaying Woodcock in the media about “sullying a player’s good name ” bla bla…I’ve only seen Brussow react that way once before, ironically when Woodcock attacked his face in Durban – and that I DID see
2 Dec 2009, 09:55 am
@Atreides: But did the Bok support staff jump into the fight with Brussouw when they say foul play? You cannot say that Tony is lying, when clearly there were witnesses.
2 Dec 2009, 09:56 am
Apologies : say = saw.
2 Dec 2009, 09:57 am
@DonutDunning: Pocock looks monstrously strong….he’s gonna cause us big headaches in years to come
2 Dec 2009, 10:06 am
@the peanut gallery:
Whatever
The article is ****.
Die SON could do better.
2 Dec 2009, 10:08 am
@rossoneri: You misunderstood me. I said it yesterday too, if a player alleges something like that, it’s the duty of the management to take it up with the authorities…it MUST be taken seriously. I’m not saying Woodcock is lying at all, in fact I believe more likely than not he wasn’t. Just don’t like the fact that immediately the Boks are accused of making up stories and fabricating charges (in itself a serious allegation), yet TW has no such accusations levelled against him? Why? See my point? The reaction to Woodcock by the media and authorities is as it should be.
2 Dec 2009, 10:08 am
@Dawn: They call it Movember where every one grows a mustache to support prostate cancer. Do you live under a rock?
2 Dec 2009, 10:09 am
@PissAnt: What about Ludeke. S14 and CC winner.
Wouldn’t that be shock to some people?
Suppose he is also plaughing (sp.) with his predecessor’s kallers.
2 Dec 2009, 10:09 am
@Breakdown Boy:
What if I do.
2 Dec 2009, 10:09 am
@sparticus: I think FDV wanted to leave because of the poor season last year, both the Bulls and the boks.
2 Dec 2009, 10:10 am
@skopskiet#2: OMG skoppie, these days an article doesn’t even have to make the merest mention of JW (this one doesn’t even come close) for you to unleash your hatred and bitterness for the poor fellow. Lol, get a grip on reality mate, there are bigger issues out there
2 Dec 2009, 10:11 am
@Dawn: It is silly…however I do agree Mccaw was not the most deserving….but neither was FdP. BoD was robbed I believe.
2 Dec 2009, 10:15 am
BWAHAHAHA!
Read what this poor demented kiwi blogger wrote a little earlier in this thread:
16. Waster :
December 2nd, 2009 at 6:01 am
@whatever: I just guessed, some of us actually come here to get unbiased opinions, like from Skopskiet
Poor guy, guess it’s just because he’s new, he’ll soon learn the words skopskiet and unbiased are like oil and water around these parts.
2 Dec 2009, 10:16 am
Nothing really going on in the world of rugby. Now you guys have to come up with something to generate hits.
Congratulations. It looks as if you will end up around 300.
2 Dec 2009, 10:17 am
@Atreides: Are you saying there is truth to this IRB and the world of rugby treats the Boks less than fair?
2 Dec 2009, 10:22 am
Maybe the heading should have read: And the Whiners are…
My no.1 would be: Keo
2 Dec 2009, 10:26 am
Fatigue,
Bad Anthem,
Terrible refereeing,
Lack of match preperation,
Bad weather,
Fatigue,
False eye-gouging accusations,
Paul O’Connell learning Afrikaans,
Did I mention fatigue…?…. (Well Keo did about 475 times in the last month)
Oh but wait it was the B&I Lions who whinged and made excuses……
The delusion on this site knows no bounds……..
2 Dec 2009, 10:30 am
@rossoneri: I don’t believe that for a second, no…I am not one of the Saffas who buys into conspiracy theories, never have. But I do question why on one hand a player is immediately accused of lying, but another player in the same situation doesn’t.
2 Dec 2009, 10:30 am
Come on guys, could you be more professional. I know you had one to many drinks at the xmas part. There’s alot of hard work ahead. Just step your game up ahead of 2010.n
2 Dec 2009, 10:31 am
@rossoneri: Dude did you read my post? I thought I was being quite clear
2 Dec 2009, 10:32 am
@Atreides:doesn’t = isn’t
2 Dec 2009, 10:33 am
Let’s face it… EVERYONE whinges. It’s just that the B&I Lions whinged more than most.
2 Dec 2009, 10:41 am
I’ve never seen a juiced up dwarf.
2 Dec 2009, 10:48 am
I would also like to take this opportunity to register my disgust at FdP not being named player of the year.
Had he been playing in a black jersey the NH would have line up to kiss his arse or suck on his…..
2 Dec 2009, 10:50 am
I pretty much agree with all of these awards.
McCaw’s player of the year award was the most laughable of the lot. I can’t even remember a game where he had an impact. He seems a decent bloke he is probably embarrassed by the whole thing.
The BIL’s whinging was the most enjoyable part of the season though. They really did let themselves down on this tour. When they lost games they were unbearable and when they won they were even worse. They should have been drowned at birth.
I think Bobby Skinstadt deserved special mention in the hairy lip section, he looked like a *** porn star.
2 Dec 2009, 10:51 am
@wooden spoon:
You are the silly dude here…it was said with tongue in cheek!
get the humour!
2 Dec 2009, 10:59 am
Schalk Burger should definitely have taken out the ‘Dirtiest Mo’ award. He’s currently sporting something only previously seen in the ’70′s Porn movie industry.
2 Dec 2009, 11:01 am
@DEE DAH:
cant remember a game where McCaw had any impact ?
You clearly stopped watching in July…..word up – on the 5 Test tour of the ABs in NH, he’s collected 3 x MoM awards.
They usually award MoM’s for…..um…….IMPACT !
2 Dec 2009, 11:08 am
@DEE DAH:
Probably you were watching with your eyes closed.
2 Dec 2009, 11:11 am
so happens wooden spoon, yeah I am unbiased, its mostly one eyed JW *** kissing saffa’s and ex saffa’s like yourself who don’t really understand the meaning of the concept or the word ‘biased’ or ‘unbiased’. You see it takes an unmitigated view from an outsider, a Kiwi like Waster, to recognize what ‘unbiased’ actually means. Its pretty much wasted on fool idiot delinquents like yourself.
Oh . . and if you’re still unable to see the uninhibited JW propaganda spin working behind the sentences in this ‘and the winners are’. . report, then I’m afraid to have to inform you that you are actually far more blinded by your own bias than even I previously thought, . . even if you are a practicing barrister of Her Majesty’s Court.
Coach of the year . . John Smit . . Ha, how more pig headed deluded can any JWWW spin doctor scribe go and get?
2 Dec 2009, 11:16 am
“Coach of the Year – John Smit”
Poor effort, why denigrate the coach?
The boks have just been voted team of the year and the plaudits need to be given to the coaches too. The players have done so with Smit, Matfield and FdP all praising the fantastic environment facilited by the management.
The Greatest will have to stick another wortel up your gatte next year.
2 Dec 2009, 11:17 am
this article was either tongue in cheek or written under the influence of a narcotic – i suspect the latter.
eg brain explosion given based on a cc game?
surely ronan o gara should walk away with this one – unless the writer views weepee’s progress in the cc as more important than a bil tour result.
2 Dec 2009, 11:21 am
i see ou doos has beaten me to it, but am not quite sure how JW is too blame, i presume its a ***-for-tat lesson of some kind.
2 Dec 2009, 11:36 am
you not familiar with the fact that Mark Keohane gets all his inside *** bit propaganda fed to him directly these days by his current broeder in arms Herr Wiederzuin Himself. How behind the times can we be? Everything, yes absolutely everything spilling off the keyboards in this JWWW spin prop office machine is ratified and condoned, in fact propagated by chief whip officer MK and indirectly by Mr. Whoopsie himself, the one and only. . . yeah you guessed it. .
2 Dec 2009, 11:45 am
mr. whoopsie?
2 Dec 2009, 11:47 am
seems no one is proficient at reading between any lines no more, just like in the good old days when propaganda was rife and normal people like you and I were being fed bullsh!t in bucket loads about how kosher everything is up on the lily White surface, so the gullible dooby do’s of denial get hoodwinked into believing its all just innocent poor reporting we swallowing, and not some orchestrated attempt at a little bit of poison pen journalism aimed solely at overthrowing or denegrating the current coaching setup purely as a ploy to get His Highness enshrined as a DOR Dooby Do Nothing above the poor fella’s head.
2 Dec 2009, 11:50 am
yeah but somehow i dont think mr whoopsie compares to the national party in either intention or influence, however many anti-kris rabbits we see behind corners, i also dont think their are any betting sybdicates involved.
2 Dec 2009, 11:52 am
c.mon surely I don’t have to be getting any more insinuating or intuitive than I already have, read between the lines, it ain’t too difficult, all these dude’s are on the payroll of who exactly, who’s pulling which strings and which puppets are dancing to who’s or which tune?
2 Dec 2009, 11:56 am
Special mention of worst movember must go to Bobby Failstad.
2 Dec 2009, 11:56 am
i think you wrong, the puppets are paid by Keo, who has a website which allows you to spread your mad-*** suggestions freely, which the NP never ever did. Keo is seperate from mr whoopsie and probably has more dosh and power, i dont think mr whoopsie is as revered in white SA as you like to lead on, the afrikaners have never much liked him and every soutie and his dog wanted him gone in 2006 – so i think his influence is not nearly as great as you make out – i happened to believe he is a pretty good rugby coach.
2 Dec 2009, 11:58 am
@DEE DAH: Are you one of those who thinks Brussow out played McCaw right through the Super 14 etc? Here are some stats from the SA rugby website from this years super 14 (all based on per minutes played as McCaw was out with injury for a period)-
McCaw vs Brussow (all super 14 games)
Clean Breaks – McCaw 66% higher
Defense Beaten – McCaw 53% higher
Lineouts won – McCaw 5 times as many
Metres Gained – McCaw 41% more
Missed Tackles – Brussow 2 and a half times more tackles missed
Offloads – Brussow 3 times more
Penalties conceded – Brussow twice as many (but McCaw is the one who cheats??)
Runs per game – McCaw 60% more
Tackles Made – Brussow 22% more
Tries Scored – McCaw twice as many
T/O’s conceded – McCaw 60% more
I actually feel that Brussow is a fantastic player who has added hugely to the Bok performance. For me he was one of the major improvements in the Bok game this year. But to say that he was far superior to R McCaw this year is to ignore the facts.
To say that McCaw has had no impact would have to imply that Brussow had no impact either (based on the stats). Neither statement is correct.
As for the Player of the year, I also think from watching the games that McCaw was probably not the best choice, but it might be that if you check all the actual statistics his performance was better than was obvious.
2 Dec 2009, 12:07 pm
i should imagine in purely rugby terms mr whoopsie would probably be the first to commend the wee maestro on what he has been able to achieve this year, in fact my reading of the lines is that mr whoopsie has been painted into this evil figurehead of some sort of third force, by the real third force with the real political power and even the wee maestro swallowed that incorrectly initially. i think you will probably find mr whoopsie is a bit bitter at SARU and no-one else, but then again i dont have the all-seeing eye of the artist.
2 Dec 2009, 12:11 pm
M Keo and Mr. Whoopsie practically sleep together at night, MK probably gets a shake down spin off if Mr. Whoopsie gets the high chair job as Chief Dooby Do Nothing DOR Man at SARU, and then all the bases are covered, Pdv gets told when, how, and how high to jump, what to say, when to say it when he’s told and everybody goes laughing all the way to Banana Republic Bank with JS instituted as head coach in 2012, if not sooner, you know how it goes with all clandestine mafiosi operatives, like keep it in the family.
Besides that I concur its rather refreshing having a forum where you can go ahead and tell it how it actually IS.
2 Dec 2009, 12:13 pm
@aliboy:
Yes, but the award is based on test performances, otherwise we’d have players there based on Heineken Cup etc. McCaw had very very little influence in this years tests. I’ve forgotten, though, how he performed in last years EOYT which is included in this years award.
2 Dec 2009, 12:14 pm
chief dooby do?
2 Dec 2009, 12:14 pm
IDIOT BLOGGER OF THE YEAR AWARD: SKOPSKIET.
FDP you beauty!!!!!!!
2 Dec 2009, 12:16 pm
@aliboy:
But lets not forget who Brussow was playing for in the Super 14.
Its better to compare the two when playing for the Boks and the ABs.
2 Dec 2009, 12:18 pm
MK always had sources in SA rugby, always breaks the stories first, or used to, in fact he used to be alot more investigative before becoming chief of camelot and before mr whoopsie was admitted to the roundtable. in fact MK went thru a period where he was far more scathing of mr whoopsie than he has ever been of The Greatest.
2 Dec 2009, 12:21 pm
@aliboy: Brussouw outplayed McCaw when it really counted
in the tri-nations he made McCaw his B***h
2 Dec 2009, 12:23 pm
@aliboy:
Statistics always fool idiots!
Stats are like bikinis great to look at but they cover up the important bits.
2 Dec 2009, 12:26 pm
@WakaNathan:
Yawn
2 Dec 2009, 12:26 pm
@cab:
Yup, Mark was far hungrier then and also far more personally involved as a participant on the site. I think that most of the decent stuff is reserved for the mag nowadays, and the investigative journalism has given way to coffee table type stories or the C&P that’s fed here.
If it wasn’t for the bloggers, the site would have faded a long time ago for lack of decent content.
2 Dec 2009, 12:29 pm
While I completely agree with the spin by the British press, they have never been known for their balanced views on sport – being Irish I am used to it.
But I feel I have to say something about you including the Irish press in that statement because I don’t remember you citing one Irish article during the entire Lions series!
Try irishtimes.com for some of the better rugby coverage in Ireland.
2 Dec 2009, 12:29 pm
@skopskiet: I think you may be right skoppie. MK and JK with JS have their little fantasy story boarded already.
2 Dec 2009, 12:30 pm
@Just Another Paddy:
Shut up, go do your blogging on an irish blog.
I couldn’t agree more with this Keo article. More like it, please.
2 Dec 2009, 12:32 pm
@David:
probably alot easier lifestyle, good mag, big readership, more power so gets the mainstream quotes, makes less enemies, etc.
but yeah at his peak MK stirred more **** than ou doos could ever hope to accomplish.
2 Dec 2009, 12:34 pm
@aliboy:
Brussow had his way with McCaw all year. After the Crusaders/Cheetahs game this year, McCaw was bloodied and defeated. Brussow did it ALLLL NIIIGHT LONNNNG! and he did it to him in the Tri-Nations too.
But Brussow’s best performance this year was against France. Without him we would have lost by a lot more.
2 Dec 2009, 12:39 pm
Yeah those where the days when MK and Mr. Whoopsie weren’t broeder’s in arms punching for the same cause and eating off the same table or sleeping in the same bed. In those days MK was a lot more objective than he’s recently become, these days keo.cn.za has just become another arm of the JWWW promo stable where JW is still looking for some meaningful avenue where he can exert his influence again.
Like Dooby Do Nothing DOR over Pdv’s head. Seeing even GLRU have now also suspended their all seeing consultancy services all eyes are now focussed on either unseating or upstaging or at least overseeing the out of his league poor Quota Coach puppet Pdv, like give him a hand up, you know how it goes when advanced thinking highly educated school master dictatorial’s who know it all and deignfully hand down all that superiorly learned knowledge and expertise they gathered whilst losing 49-0 and the rest.
2 Dec 2009, 12:44 pm
i dont think there has ever been a highly educated figure in SA rugby, apart from the doc and even thats relative, certainly not jake white. not sure what academic education has to do with rugby experience and knowledge in any case, but go on create that chippy strawman for all its worth. there;ve actually been some highly educated rugby players, Cobus visagie, the TH achor you constantly herald as new scrum coach, is but one of those.
2 Dec 2009, 12:49 pm
Agree with all – though John Smit for coach of the year is just there to generate hits and get the debate going. Otherwise good calls all round. Nothing wrong with McCaw getting player of the year though, he’s awesome
2 Dec 2009, 12:55 pm
your new no 4 lock at wp is highly educated, another unlikely kro-magnon man is anton oliver, the no-nonsense kiwi hooker who gave up rugby cos he got sick of it…crazy *******. there;ve been countless rhodes scholars that;ve played and captaained international rugby teams including david kirk and one of the greatest physcics of the 20th centurt that split the atom rutherford was a keen rugby player.
i’m afraid rugby was always a toff sport, its changing, but thats just the way it is.
2 Dec 2009, 12:56 pm
@cab: the Winning Ways spoils and the royalties from john smits’ book must be sweet for people to change their tune so dramatically!
Mediocrity triumphs
This entry was posted on Monday, December 4th, 2006
We are not a mediocre sporting nation that settles for second best. And what the Springboks have offered in the last 24 months has been second best, writes Keo in his Business Day column.
An opportunity was lost in not dismissing Jake White as Springbok coach. One victory, against an England side whose only success in their last nine internationals was against the Boks, has created an illusion of comfort.
The President’s Council determined that White was the right man to lead South Africa to the World Cup. They were comfortable in everything White was doing and expressed confidence in his so-called World Cup plan and in his team’s performances for 2006.
Apparently they also accepted White’s belief that Santa Claus lives.
Flying White to Cape Town from London to give him a pat on the back, at a cost of R40 000, was a farce and another example of the flaky fiscal discipline one associates with the South African Rugby Union.
The President’s Council, devoid of individuals with the rugby technical background, was ill-equipped to analyse White’s Boks. The structural weakness within the national organization was again exposed through the absence of a strong National Director of Rugby and a rugby technical committee. It is this Director of Rugby who should have led the inquisition into the national coach and Springbok rugby.
This person should have probed the details of White’s 59 percent success rate in 37 tests, which is less than the Boks historical test winning average of 62.24 percent. White’s success has dropped each year, from 69 percent to 66 percent to 41 percent in 2006. His selections have been poor; his choice of game plan equally poor and his refusal to change has stunted progress. These are all issues a rugby committee should have dissected.
Why could the Boks only score 18 tries in their last 11 tests? Why did they leak 33 tries in the same period? What was the explanation for crushing defeats at home against the French and All Blacks? How did the Springboks lose 49-0 to Australia in Brisbane and 32-15 to Ireland in Dublin? What technically was wrong with the Boks in Dublin that Ireland broke the Bok line on 18 occasions? Why were blokes picked and played out of position all year?
How difficult was White’s schedule when compared to the demands placed on Andre Markgraaff in 1996 when the Boks played the All Blacks five times, Australia twice and France twice in France? Or how different was it to Harry Viljoen’s 2001 when the Boks played the French three times, the All Blacks twice, Australia twice and a potent England at Twickenham? How different was it to every one of Nick Mallett’s years in charge or even Rudolf Straeuli’s? The fact is it wasn’t that much different and ever year the Boks have a difficult itinerary.
But it is expected that Springbok teams cope. Only New Zealand can compare with the production line of talent produced in South Africa. The expectation on the Boks is rightfully high and it is unacceptable when a Bok team gets thrashed twice in South Africa, as happened against France and New Zealand, and loses so easily against decent opposition away from home.
There should be a consequence to these results, which there was not otherwise White would not be the national coach this morning.
Asking everyone to be supportive of the national coach and to project an image of sunshine does not address the problems pointed out in this column. The Boks, in 2006, did not play good rugby and the national coach has not once given the public an explanation as to why this is the case.
The public should not be accepting of SARU press releases that state the coach explained to the President’s Council that his World Cup plan is on track. What plan? A plan that produced three wins in 10 against the major World Cup opposition? A plan based on picking 12 white players out of 15 on average every weekend?
Springbok teams cannot settle for second best and the paying public should never accommodate the kind of mediocrity the well paid White’s well paid professionals have produced.
In 2006 we’ve been forced to watch a clueless Bok team and then been subjected to the ramblings of a coach who has perfected the art of coming second and convinced the 14 provincial presidents that he has actually come first.
The New Year cannot come soon enough. Enjoy the man in the red suit with the white beard because he apparently also has a World Cup plan for White’s Boks.
This entry was posted on Monday, December 4th, 2006
2 Dec 2009, 12:56 pm
@cab:
Sorry to burst your bubble but Louis Luyt was an academic? He didn’t just get honourary degrees!
2 Dec 2009, 12:58 pm
The 2009 season does not start with BIL series in SA and end with Tri nations, I’m afraid, Mr. JC.
2 Dec 2009, 12:58 pm
@rich1:
Mate even your own ‘Reunion’ presenter wrote that he was surprised that McCaw got the award.
Awesome player no doubt, maybe a bit of justice for last year but it shouldn’t have to work like that.
2 Dec 2009, 13:01 pm
so basically……the journo’s on this site are not entitled to write an article withregards to whom, They feel, have been the outstanding performers this season have been?
well.
at least they appreciate the irony what passes for “freedom of speech and freedom of press” in South africa.
Not that I agree with all their choices.
But it would appear that unless Pieter De Villiers wins coach of the year (with an 8 from 12 record) and Heinie Adams unseats Fourie Du Preez…..they are somehow on a Jake White gravy train?
that sounds pretty bizarre.
inferiority complex anyone?
For my money, coach of the year should have been between Paul Treu and Frans Ludeke.
They both coached their sides to industry “firsts” this past season.
2 Dec 2009, 13:01 pm
@Transformation:
Nice post.
I agree that JW is massively overrated as a coach. He’s a fantastic organizer but should never ever be allowed to SELECT a team. You could say it worked out in the end but he made it very difficult for himself with some shocking selections.
The guy knows how to market himself though I’ll give him that.
2 Dec 2009, 13:02 pm
@Transformation:
Well that proves that Keo is consistant and when the Boks under perform he attacks the coach.
It also proves that the criticism of PDV is not racially motivated but rather targeted at the position he holds.
Thanks transformation the next time somebody pulls the race card on this site when PDV gets criticised we can haul this old chestnut out in order to dispel any concerns of racism or xenophobia.
2 Dec 2009, 13:05 pm
As an after thought….please keep up all the Blue Bull knocking. It is a sure fire method of ensuring further success and trophies for the men up north.
It’s when everyone starts kissing their arses, that’s when I get worried.
2 Dec 2009, 13:05 pm
i think you all miss the point, keo attacked white at a low period who subsequently went onto win the RWC and thereby prove his fitness, the team he assembled and the respect he retyrned were huge and led to ongoing experience and a winning mindset, or at least a competitive one which had not existed for some time.
i agree the current attacks on PdV are not racially motivated, but merely short0minded, the same as on white.
2 Dec 2009, 13:09 pm
sounds like something or someone, maybe its even me, thats yanking your chain.
This is usually how it goes when anyone goes along and prides themselves about something, like winning WC’s for instance, or getting Phd’s in chemistry or physics or psychology or rocket science, or even in human behaviour or sports science or rugby analysis. When people start getting all proud and educated about anything or about themselves and their achievements thats when sometimes they start overreacting to their own self worth. You see its great to be ambitious and positive and altruistic about life but when it becomes an all consuming passion for vainglory pride and self purpose, then it loses some of its do good altruist intent. Much better to be anonymous and incognito about ones ambitions and desires. Pride on the other hand to my way of thinking is more of a vice than a virtue.
2 Dec 2009, 13:18 pm
@DEE DAH: 180
You think the Boks underperformed against the Lions and in the 3Nations?
2 Dec 2009, 13:19 pm
i dont think so, you reveal something of yourself when yanking that chain too, especially when it is irrelevant and wrong.
you have painted a picture of white in your own minds eye which i believe is simply wrong and you largely dissaprove of him based on this mental construct.
i believe your dislike for JW is no rouse at all, it is intense and quite obsessive and quite unreasonable in fact.
2 Dec 2009, 13:22 pm
@skopskiet:
Easy Skop, don’t get upset,,,,
It was openly told by the Daily Telegraph, the NZ Herald and the Sydney Morning Herald 5 months ago with some attention for the details, they all quoted sources INSIDE the Boks’ camp,
It was never mentioned in S Africa for some obvious reasons.
Keo isn’t the first to blow the whistle on PdV
2 Dec 2009, 13:24 pm
what you are asking for is a person without ambition.
in that case, there is no point in watching rugby, since its all about success, and if there was any doubt about it in your particular case, there should be none cos no-one comes down harder on the Bok players when we lose – so give it a rest about all this vainglorious pride and all.
your athletic heros are all about winning, about breakiung records, about being the greatest.
also someone without ambition is someone without an ego, not someone who barks at every passing car on a blog.
absolute gyproctical nonsense
2 Dec 2009, 13:28 pm
Well it simply goes without saying that Heinie Adams is a far more team oriented and far better front foot ball distributing scrum half than Fourie Du Preez will ever be, only pity is he sat under Fdp’s highly rated privileged shadow for so long collecting mushrooms while Fdp was busy educating himself as to how to play rugby and and hone his passing skills. Also Pdv still one hundred percent superior hands on rugby coach than our overrated DOR Wannabee will or could ever be.
2 Dec 2009, 13:31 pm
the attacks on PDV are racist.
When the Boks win PDV is not praised in fact he is ridiculed when the boks lose he is ridiculed and blamed.
Thats racism…it seems no-one wants to give a black man the credit in this case PDV!
2 Dec 2009, 13:32 pm
you still dont have it in you to acknowlege you were wrong about this side, you were wrong about the world cup, you were wrong that they should retire when PdV took over and you are wrong today by taking cheapshots at a team who has done very well.
As For FdP, his education or lack thereof has nothing to do with winning a S14, BIL and 3N – this very winter of your discontent, not bad at all for a mushroom
2 Dec 2009, 13:33 pm
@wallabie.:
yes, that is also true.
2 Dec 2009, 13:39 pm
You see there are those that yank chains and those that do.
Jake White said when he took over he would win the world cup and he delivered on that promise. Some ppl often seek to explain life’s injustices through luck, but those that succeed make their own ‘luck’. And i see nothing with admiting somone who has set out to achieve something, worked for it and achieved it. if only the riff-raff could follow suit.
2 Dec 2009, 13:47 pm
@Kobus Kitty:
I’m grand here thanks…..
No chance of you actually addressing my points or would you prefer to just tell me to shut up again…?…
Either way thanks in advance…….
2 Dec 2009, 13:49 pm
@Just Another Paddy: Please excuse some of our less civilized citizens, sometimes they embarass the rest of us
2 Dec 2009, 13:59 pm
yeah the chain yanking seems to be having its desired effect. Its good to get challenged on proud nothings because thats all it is, huge grandiose escapade’s at achievement for a particular cause. Strip it all down and see what you left with once all the pride and prejudice is dissipated to nothing like a huge big puff of smoke. No trophy’s in cabinets is worth a mans integrity or his soul, and back of all the chagrin and tooth gnashing is personal ego and only that.
To be wrong or right about rubbish especially has very little recourse to reality one little innocuous bit.
But to strip down ones importance before oneself, that accounts for far more than any cabinet filled with trophy’s or letters behind any glorified names.
So I’ll keep on challenging, and those with axes or ego’s to grind will come running for more of the same.
2 Dec 2009, 14:09 pm
yeah, well you;ll get some hard truths back.
Big difference in this life between the chain yankers and the doers.
2 Dec 2009, 14:15 pm
it usually takes the outsiders here, the Wallabies and the Hurricanes and the Waster’s and the Paddy’s to see anything with any degree of unbiased clarity. Its the poor deluded Saffa’s stewing in the indoctrinated soup who simply cannot see any wood for any trees. And who are the biggest braggarts of all? Well do I really have to spell it out?
2 Dec 2009, 14:22 pm
speak for yourself, i dont believe the south africans are any bugger braggards than anyone else. the kiwis are every but as one=eyed and whats more thety expect to win.
besides if you so transcental to all this winning and losing stuff, why is it you that inevtibaly throw the toys at everything in sight when we do lose?
why watch the game at all. as for a chain-yabk, dont be ridiculoys, someone just has to mention the words ‘jake white’ and you foaming at the mouth like a rabid budgy.
2 Dec 2009, 14:23 pm
far from you to be educating me about hard truths, thats for sure, still a long way to Tipperary for those that think its arrogant pride and achievement that rules creation. Keep pumping that iron till you can’t pump no more.
2 Dec 2009, 14:24 pm
@skopskiet:
yip seems like more than one of us can chain yank.
2 Dec 2009, 14:25 pm
We just got buzzed by a flight of SAAF JAS Gripens…
2 Dec 2009, 14:27 pm
@CenturionShark (aka LondonShark):
I’m not a Kiwi – I’m with the Boks. But even FdP can’t be upset about missing out on an award to McCaw. BOD is okay on the field but lets himself down with whinging off the field
2 Dec 2009, 14:27 pm
this
is
biased
tabloid
journalism
at
it’s
worst
bye blog, it was fun.
2 Dec 2009, 14:29 pm
In fact, we’ve had quite some military hardware flying over Cape Town the last while…some Agusta A109 helicopters and of course the bright, shiny-new JAS 39 Gripens fighter jets…
2 Dec 2009, 14:31 pm
yeah u chomping at the self important bit for all you’re worth, chomp chomp. Keep on chomping its all thats ever going to get you rid of that over zealous self worth arrogance of yours. Pity you can’t see it. . .yet, but it will come around.. no doubt.
2 Dec 2009, 14:35 pm
yeah and u still sitting on your arse bemoaning luck and the toilet bowl around you.
2 Dec 2009, 14:42 pm
@WP Till I Die:
that will make lesotho think twice about invading…
2 Dec 2009, 14:44 pm
@rich1:
Oh sorry, I thought you were from the dark side
Mmm, agree to disagree. IMO FDP was robbed.
2 Dec 2009, 14:44 pm
The skopskiet vs cab show is hilarious.
2 Dec 2009, 14:45 pm
@gunther:
LOL.
2 Dec 2009, 14:45 pm
@skopskiet: Skoppie the worst form of pride is “reverse humility” i.e when someone appears to be humble for the sake of gaining selfish recognition. Everyone of us has pride, be that pride in what we achieve,our abilities or where we belong etc. but its when that pride is demonstrated by the denigrating of others simply for the sake of boosting oneself or that it becomes a means of persuing self interest that it is damaging. Fdp’s style of play in that he puts a lot of faith in his own ability is not pride and doesn’t mean he is less of a team player than Adams. It may just show that he has a lot more confidence in his own ability and consequently is feared a lot more by the opposition than Heinie I would venture to say.
2 Dec 2009, 14:45 pm
@WP Till I Die:
I know. Skop though has some deep seated issues. Makes for a good laugh I will admit.
2 Dec 2009, 14:48 pm
bemoaning?? Huh? Who’s bemoaning? just simply sitting on my *** watching it go by as it actually is. The toilet bowl that is. Its you lot that bemoan and seek meaning and chase shadows of glorified achievement not knowing exactly how ephemeral it actually all is. You still under the illusion its all so emphatically real all this vain glorious achievement you’re chasing. Keep on I tell you, yank for all you can when the elusive flusher is all empty, thats when you’ll find out what in fact its all about.
Battery low. Out.
2 Dec 2009, 14:53 pm
@skopskiet:
Your battery is permanently low.
2 Dec 2009, 14:54 pm
yeah but you do chase something and you do nothing about it, except for sitting on your arse making proclamation of truth like big chief sitting bull and bemoan the toilet bowl, and instead begrudge others their successes who actually put in alot of effort and work into what they achieve and thus understably take pride. I;d be pretty proud of a world cup.
2 Dec 2009, 14:55 pm
thank the lord for the finite nature of the lithium battery….
2 Dec 2009, 15:02 pm
**** YOU KEO, YOU ARE THE WORST RUGBY ANALYST ON THE PLANET EVER, IT IS TIME TO ACCEPT THAT A NEW AGE HAS BEGUN AND THAT SA RUGBY IS RUN BY A BLACK MAN, OPEN YOUR COLLONIALIST EYES AND PULL YOUR BRAIN FROM YOUR ***, SO YOU TO CAN ARISE TO THE REALITY THAT RUGBY WILL NEVER BE CONTROLLED BY THE IMPERIALST NEVER EVER, EVER, YOU BLOODY *** KISSING WHINING, ONE DIMENSIONAL THIKING, SHORT SIGHTED SORRY EXCUSE FOR A RUGBT RACIST ANAYLIST.
2 Dec 2009, 15:05 pm
I ALMOST NEVER POST ON THIS SITE, BECUASE OF THIS KIND OF ****, YOU NEED SOME SCHOOLING YOU AND YOUR WHOLE GANG YOU IDIOTIC MORONS, I WONDER HOW YOU LOOK IN REAL LIFE MAYBE THAT WILL EXPLAIN YOUR BRAIN CAPACITY ( JUST JOKING ) MAYBE!!!?
2 Dec 2009, 15:11 pm
@graeme1: Well you’ve certainly shown yours by that tirade. The task of a journalist is to get people thinking about the issues and just as these boys are taking the current coaching set-up to task, the previous set up was equally questioned.
2 Dec 2009, 15:12 pm
@graeme1: Stop shouting you gave me a headache
2 Dec 2009, 15:24 pm
@graeme1: tsk tsk tsk ……
very mature mate , now go clean your nappy
2 Dec 2009, 16:09 pm
I must say skoppie as unbiased raised a chuckle from me. Balanced I can understand – chip on both shoulders. The JS for coach is just trolling keo rubbish. My view is that keo is just a cynical journo – knows the price of everything butthe value of nothing and would sell ma’s soul for a storey, his having been sold already. Nice to waffle on his site though, real time waster.
Saffers are a divisive lot and that is why we have never reached our rugby potential (let alone anything else). So now skoppie types will never acknowledge that jw’s team won the RWC, even though he wasn’t a great coach, just technically good. Also the skoppie clones will never acknowledge that PDV fluffed 2008 TN and just maybe JS et al influenced him to be a bit conservative and structured. Trouble is the Boks got stuck there – they need to move forward.
My thought – you can’t drive a car forward by looking in the rear view mirror (apologies Warren Buffet, I think). I reckon SA rugby (and everything else) should look and plan for the future, not keep grovelling in the rubbish of the past except to learn from it. Not happening yet.
2 Dec 2009, 16:47 pm
@Transformation: its amazing to see in clear daylight how wrong MK has been the way he was ranting on abt JW,
its funny to see how its the same ramblings going on abt PdV only difference is these rantings against PdV continue in a year when he won BIL and Tri-nations and New Zealand 3 duck
heaven forbid he has a year like White had
the assumption is that since he started off with a World Cup winning side they should be invincible
i dont see why that should be the case cos history has not shown that
even Aus didnt win tri nations as World champions I mean
it even took the 95 Boks 3 years as WC champions be4 they won tri nations.
These stats dont lie
Winners of the Tri Nations Championship
2008 New Zealand
2007 New Zealand
2006 New Zealand
2005 New Zealand
2004 South Africa
2003 New Zealand
2002 New Zealand
2001 Australia
2000 Australia
1999 New Zealand
1998 South Africa
1997 New Zealand
1996 New Zealand
2 Dec 2009, 16:49 pm
122. Breakdown Boy :
December 2nd, 2009 at 10:09 am
@sparticus: I think FDV wanted to leave because of the poor season last year, both the Bulls and the boks.
FDP own words quoted below –
“But the way things have gone made it difficult to contemplate quitting. The atmosphere that was set by the Springbok management was really wonderful. This Bok management is really some of the best ever and in that aspect I enjoy being part of the Springboks. They made it easier to make the decision.”
2 Dec 2009, 16:55 pm
@the peanut gallery: @112
Youve also missed the boat on the full picture there.
‘Movember’ is indeed about growing Mo’s. But in the aid of charity for postrate cancer, the biggest killing-cancer of males. It has been extremely successful in NZ & Australia with fellas getting sponsored to grow-a-mo for the month of November and then Competitions to see who is named ‘Mr Movember’.
Use it.
2 Dec 2009, 17:02 pm
@Papoose: this is the point where KEO became Jake White’s lackey, spotting potential riches, he ingraciated himself with great alacrity.
Don’t be a fool Jake … go on Sunday
This entry was posted on Wednesday, October 17th, 2007 at 6:17 am
Jake White would only be setting himself up for failure and frustration if he continued with the Boks in 2008.
A day before the Springboks beat Argentina in the World Cup semi-finals, Jake White, Cape Argus sports Editor Gary Lemke and I were walking back to the team hotel after a coffee at the Bercy Village.
“Watch out,” said Jake, pulling me out of the road as a car whizzed past. Then he turned to Gary and said: “A year ago I would have pushed him into the road.”
We all laughed but the truth is given an opportunity 12 months ago Jake probably would have pushed me into the road because I was among those who had written he should be given the bullet as Bok coach. I wrote he had nothing more to offer the Springboks and we needed something else.
The Boks had lost seven of their last eight Test matches and White, in my opinion, had only been consistent in his inconsistency. That was 12 months ago.
Did I get it wrong? I could argue that I didn’t but the fact of the matter is the Boks are in the World Cup final, so whatever spin I’d want to put on it, I didn’t get it right.
I could also argue, as some have, that the Boks would not be in the World Cup final had it not been for the input of former Wallabies coach Eddie Jones. Then again the counter is that Jones is only there because of White.
Whatever your view, whether you’ve applauded Jake White in the last four years, condemned him, screamed at him or felt for him, you can’t ignore the immense courage it has taken to survive as Bok coach.
No Bok coach in the history of the game had made it to four consecutive years or 40 Tests. White on Saturday will be in charge for a 52nd successive Test.
White is in Paris this week because he never wanted to be anywhere else in the final week of the World Cup. Springbok rugby is his passion and South African rugby is his love.
He has made his mistakes, suffered because of them, sacrificed the normality of being at home when his kids eat dinner and fought incredible forces within the South African game. But he has also triumphed on so many levels.
At the same time he has been left perplexed by a South African media that voted him media personality in one year and outcast the next.
No-one ever promised White it would be easy to coach the Springboks, but no-one ever told him it would be this hard.
Yet he still wants the job, despite the media intrusion on his life and the abuse that comes with losing 49-0, as the Boks did to Australia a year ago.
What makes a man want to put himself and those around him through that kind of turmoil? What makes a man want to save the guy who a year ago tortured him in print?
When the wise heads of South African rugby advertised White’s job a week ago, they asked for someone who could handle abnormality, intrusion and ridicule.
They did this at the time when an extraordinary character was busy negotiating the kind of social and political obstacles no other coach in world rugby can comprehend.
They did this without looking at what they already had – a guy who has absorbed the pressure, stumbled because of it, but is still standing.
There is no prouder South African in Paris this week than Jake White. But if he continues in South African rugby there will be no bigger fool.
When he hurried me across the road I did tell him that he needed to walk away once he’d won the World Cup.
South African rugby doesn’t deserve him. I couldn’t think of a bigger thank you to give him.
This entry was posted on Wednesday, October 17th, 2007 at 6:17 am
2 Dec 2009, 17:05 pm
ingraciated – ingratiated
2 Dec 2009, 17:54 pm
” has made his mistakes, suffered because of them, sacrificed the normality of being at home when his kids eat dinner and fought incredible forces within the South African game.”
Of course, at that time, we didn’t know he was shacked up with one of his mistresses in Paris”. I wonder if Mark new?
2 Dec 2009, 17:59 pm
@David: the poppie was there for the coffee! But mark had to only count the manne the time.
2 Dec 2009, 18:06 pm
Wankanathan:
“Prostrate” themselves is what the All Blacks do after the Boks have kicked their a$$es.
“prostate” cancer is what growing mos is about.
2 Dec 2009, 19:45 pm
My poor Sireli. It’s ok bud, come game day you can sit next to me… in the granstand… off the field
2 Dec 2009, 19:59 pm
@drew: @230
and making immature and inappropriate jokes about cancer seems to be a temptation too easy to ignore.
2 Dec 2009, 20:20 pm
@WakaNathan:
waka, didn’t see any joke about cancer in drew’s post.
he was simply making fun of your spelling of prostate
2 Dec 2009, 20:26 pm
skoppie clones? no such thing, skoppie comes only as one of a kind, no clones of skoppie banding about, not here or anywhere else for that matter.
Sorry to disappoint you husky but there ain’t no clones of skoppie anywhere else on this planet, you can be quite sure of that without any further concerns that might assail your thinking.
2 Dec 2009, 20:30 pm
@skopskiet: as you get with all brands… you get the cheap knock-offs
2 Dec 2009, 20:35 pm
I suppose princess Sarah but knock offs aren’t the original, not even if they try, certain patents are simply not cloneable.
2 Dec 2009, 20:38 pm
@skopskiet: that’s why they’re so cheap… lol
2 Dec 2009, 20:40 pm
@skopskiet: And thank fk for that.
2 Dec 2009, 20:47 pm
Yeah soda just like there no clones of anyone else, I doubt there any other Soda’s parading around anywhere either. Seems thats one of the beauties of nature, when it comes to humans unless you got an identical twin you’re more n likely one of a kind uniquely you.
2 Dec 2009, 20:59 pm
Sodajoes twin = Jimmy Abbot. The only other lions supporter I know.
2 Dec 2009, 21:05 pm
@SodaJoe: Soda, I hope you saw that I voted you as most amusing blogger on Keo last night….
You have to keep standards up as Gunther is breathing down your neck!!
2 Dec 2009, 21:05 pm
@Slappes: I didn’t even know the Lions had supporters until last year
2 Dec 2009, 21:06 pm
@SpringbokSarah: Hi Sarah, some good Percy shots in your ‘album’ on FB!!
2 Dec 2009, 21:07 pm
@SpringbokSarah: Lions supporters are very handsome Soda tells me!!
The ones on RT are, it has to be said!!
2 Dec 2009, 21:11 pm
@carol: that’s not even half of them!
@carol: ja and the loftus faithful are skinny
2 Dec 2009, 21:11 pm
@SpringbokSarah: shame that’s mean… let’s go with and Andries Bekker is short
2 Dec 2009, 21:11 pm
Sarah
yeah lions fans are extinct, but Jimmy and Soda are die hards. Very sad.
2 Dec 2009, 21:13 pm
the budget for Invictus was $60 million….
2 Dec 2009, 21:14 pm
@Slappes: rofl thought most of the would have moved to the Bulls
2 Dec 2009, 21:15 pm
Hi Carol, google Jimmy Abbot if you wanna see what Sodajoe looks like. Soda is a bit heavier these days though.
2 Dec 2009, 21:20 pm
@Slappes: I have never heard of Jimmy Abbot but he appears to be a rather porky baseball player!!
2 Dec 2009, 21:24 pm
Carol, he was a wrestler actually.
Soda needs a workout.
2 Dec 2009, 21:25 pm
ciao guys… need to clear out my school bag…
2 Dec 2009, 21:28 pm
hell, now we have some patent attorneys … wondrous.
the whole point of a patent is that you can reproduce it, but lets not get in the way of the artistry.
moreover, we can clone anything, yes including you special ones and even lukey himself.
bless the lord.
bullshitters unite
2 Dec 2009, 21:28 pm
See ya Saartjie!
2 Dec 2009, 21:33 pm
Cab, cloning is patented?
2 Dec 2009, 21:35 pm
@Slappes:
nah, cant be.
2 Dec 2009, 21:36 pm
Cab, does Jimmy Sodajoe Abbot take out a patent on his hairstyle?
2 Dec 2009, 21:37 pm
@carol:
jimmy abbot indeed soda is babe ruth…
2 Dec 2009, 21:38 pm
@Slappes:
lol, jimmy was horrendous.
is he still around?
at ellis he’d span about 3 seats.
2 Dec 2009, 21:43 pm
I am Jimmy Abbott’s evil twin.
2 Dec 2009, 21:43 pm
Cab, not sure but he did fill ellis park. Gunther
remember leon schuster getting klapped in Boksburg!
2 Dec 2009, 21:45 pm
Sodajoe, Carol reckons you need to lose weight mate.
2 Dec 2009, 21:47 pm
I married Wahl Bartman’s sister.
I was the anonymous bidder for Mark Spitz’s speedo.
Be very afraid.
2 Dec 2009, 21:48 pm
@Slappes: She’s never wrong that wee duck.
So have we all made peace with the universe yet, or are we still on a mission of death, destruction and self-pity?
2 Dec 2009, 21:50 pm
Wahl was one of the greats.
now thats a proper legend, head down, charge.
2 Dec 2009, 21:53 pm
I have some good news for everyone.
I went to see the end of the world movie 2012 with my son, and don’t worry everybody.
After all the apocalyptic chaos, the only place left standing is Cape Town. So you’re all good.
Cab, for you, the survivors get there by boat, so you are good to go. Don’t let Skoppie scare you.
Now I just have to navigate Invictus without looking like a crybaby.
2 Dec 2009, 21:53 pm
@husky: #222
“Also the skoppie clones will never acknowledge that PDV fluffed 2008 TN”
Some people on this site, the anti-PdV brigade still have not, and probably never will, acknowledge that the winning of the Lions and 3Nations series this year, was PdV’s doing.
Are you one of them?
@Transformation: #226
“When he hurried me across the road I did tell him that he needed to walk away once he’d won the World Cup.”
A few weeks ago he bitched about the fact that JW was not appointed after winning the WC. This week in his column he is promoting him as DOR.
Something is wrong with this chap.
2 Dec 2009, 21:54 pm
@cab: 7 okes on his back.
Either he was much faster than we thought, or he had the positional sense of a bat, coz he was always there.
2 Dec 2009, 21:56 pm
@SodaJoe:
lol, i;ll try not too.
what is invictus?
2 Dec 2009, 21:56 pm
Soda
clifton10 would outbid you. Wahl had a sister? What sports did she do – wrestling? 
2 Dec 2009, 22:03 pm
@Slappes: Wikepedia tells me Jimmy Abbott is a one handed baseball player!!
Wrestling would be tricky with one hand!!
@SodaJoe: Congratulations Soda Joe…..you are a winner in my book.
Now have to decide the game of the year…that I actually saw in person…
Contenders: 6 Nations Final- Wales v Ireland
1st Lions Test
2nd Lions Test
Mmmmm, off to the pub to think about this one!
2 Dec 2009, 22:05 pm
poor whal fell out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down..
2 Dec 2009, 22:07 pm
@cab: Invictus is the Clint Eastwood directed movie about the 1995 Rugby World Cup and how it united a nation. Morgan Freeman plays Mandela, and Matt Damon plays Francois Pienaar.
It is touted as an Oscar winner.
And guaranteed to make me blub.
2 Dec 2009, 22:08 pm
@Slappes: She just wrestles with me now. Bless.
2 Dec 2009, 22:09 pm
@carol: Lions Second Test had it all.
But I would use the discourse as a worthy reason to go to the pub.
2 Dec 2009, 22:09 pm
@Slappes:
a lot of people get klapped in boksburg…its a form of greeting for them…
2 Dec 2009, 22:09 pm
@gunther: Hey now.
2 Dec 2009, 22:10 pm
@gunther: Only the head butt. The rest is too ***.
2 Dec 2009, 22:12 pm
@SodaJoe:
LOL – you get choked up about the 95 RWC?
Amazing what they can do with those actors, saw a trailer and midget matt does not do too bad a job of FP it seems?
saw a show on stephen fry driving a taxi through montanna, wyoming and nebraska – very beautiful country around you actually.
2 Dec 2009, 22:14 pm
@SodaJoe:
ah the glasgow kiss….
2 Dec 2009, 22:18 pm
so nou ja mense.
2 Dec 2009, 22:19 pm
@nama1: LMAO…i know, i chuckle everytime i stumble upon some of his gems from way back!
Keo is one two-faced, fawning leprechaun…one thing i know though, if i was ever in business with him i would never trust him, it would only be business from an arms length, i hope saki macozoma & moss ngoasheng know the kind of chap their COO is over there @ HSM….
2 Dec 2009, 22:20 pm
@Transformation:
ah so saki and moss are the big boys?
2 Dec 2009, 22:20 pm
Gunther, Ja ou maat Boksburg is nie vir sussies nie. Hier klap ons jou reg en as jy nog staan moer ons jou met die wheelspanner.
2 Dec 2009, 22:30 pm
I am sure that everybody has been waiting for me rectify Keo’s twisted reality brought on by their delusional assumptions of grandeur. Ladies and gentleman herewith the awards
THE HEROES
Player of the Year – How the IRB overlooked Luke Watson for their Player of the Year award in favour of Richie McCaw is perplexing. He remains a Hero to the majority of south Africans as well as the less prejudiced rugby Fraternity
Rookie of the Year – Who else but the prolific Ashley Johnson. He is the first utility forward that can play in every position except Lock. Mapoe cam a close second
Young Gun of the Year – Definitely Juan Dejongh. Find of the year and competes with Ashley Johnson for the Rookie of the year
Mighty Mouse Award – This award without a doubt goes to Gio Aplon for his spear tackle on Victor Matfield
Try of the Year – Juan De Jongh takes this one again. His ability to find a try line through a crowded defence is phenomenal. His try against Sarries was special.
Coach of the Year – Paul Treu with PDV second. The record speaks for itself. While Keo believes that this should go to John Smit it has now become evident his first choice was in fact Jake White who supposedly impersonated **** Muir and infiltrated the boks to take charge of the team.
THE VILLAINS
The Foot in Mouth Award – Mark Keohane. How wrong is this twat with everything
The Sultans of Spin – Keo.co.za. These idiots still believe in an all white springbok team and spared nothing to illuminate average white players
The Wet Nappy Whinge Award – THis again has to be shared by the Keo Journo’s.
The Brain Explosion Award – The IRB rules committee . They reintroduced the maul to kill off the incentive to score tries
Worst boots-to-performance ratio – Frans Steyn Can kick 60 meters but knows fkall else about the game
Dirtiest attempt at a moustache – WTF has this got to do with rugby but then again trust the twats at Keo to come up with this kak.
Thank you all for reading
Shaun
2 Dec 2009, 22:31 pm
@cab: you bet, they’re the Safika in Highbury Safika Media…keo’s BEE partners, his “transformation” manne.
2 Dec 2009, 22:39 pm
@Langenhoven:
Do people read insignificant racist drivel from a delusional man who has bloated his self worth in his own eyes beyond the size of his mirror?
2 Dec 2009, 22:44 pm
288. whatever… Insignificant racist??..LMAO Fkofffff.. Remember that you are Exkreni’s no one supporter and that twat has openly declared himself to be a racist idiot.. Me thinks you are delusional too
2 Dec 2009, 22:46 pm
Be back in 30 minutes
2 Dec 2009, 22:47 pm
@Transformation:
so the real power is with the black manne?
strange thing, money.
2 Dec 2009, 22:51 pm
@Langenhoven:
Who cares what you think? Thats what you don’t seem to be able to grasp. Insignificant is the operative word. Bloated self opinion is the operative phrase.
2 Dec 2009, 22:51 pm
@Langenhoven:
Don’t rush!
2 Dec 2009, 22:58 pm
ho hum.
another night of racial bickering.
let it go people.
2 Dec 2009, 22:59 pm
@charo: @233
I never expect you to ‘get’ anything so Im no better or worse off. Oh yipee, Waka has a sp in his spiel about cancer, lets somehow turn that into a pisstake on the ABs.
Desperate times for new material these days isnt it.
2 Dec 2009, 23:03 pm
@WakaNathan: ag, you spelt it wrong.
get over yourself you pompous twat.
for once a “oh ja, i made a mistake, good one” would suffice.
your one upmanship must be tiring when the family gather for christmas…or the manne gather round the fire….or when you open your mouth and your eyes at the same time every day.
take it away now.
2 Dec 2009, 23:04 pm
i am off.
bored.
2 Dec 2009, 23:11 pm
@cab: i’m not sure how big their stake in HSM is, but those fellows are steady. They’re also standard bank’s BEE partners, Jaco Maree & Saki = peas in a pod. Standard bank bought shares in Safika Holdings, so these cats can never go down, the money just revolves and HSM must be part of that chain.
2 Dec 2009, 23:12 pm
@rangerman:
2 Dec 2009, 23:15 pm
292. whatever… I know you care darling
297. rangerman… It always gets exciting when I arrive..you are gonna miss out mate
2 Dec 2009, 23:20 pm
@rangerman:
thatha mzingeli, sisiduphunga lo mfana u-wakanathan, mtshele 
2 Dec 2009, 23:24 pm
301. Transformation
Moenie skinner nie
2 Dec 2009, 23:24 pm
Best back in world: Adam Ashley Cooper
Best forward: Bakkies
Best general: Fourie du Preez
Best trump card: Frans Steyn
Best spirit: Brian O’ Dooos
Best leader: McCaw
2 Dec 2009, 23:29 pm
@Langenhoven: @286
some comments:-
The Heroes
1. Quit the Luke fixation. Quite a good player. Also a confrontational fool. McCaw won deservedly by finishing the marathon in a sprint. Simple really.
2. YES – agree that Ashley Johnson and De Jongh were 2 of the best players on Boks tour. Sensational. Great try by De Jongh, what balance , guile and power. Johnson showed glimpses of stardom but with improvement req’d in his fitness to go 80min.
What I found most bemusing is that all those bloggers here desperate to convince us of ‘better players’ not selected……funnily enough, louder after the loss at Leicester C….. and yet the evidence in front of my eyes is that these so-called ‘quotas’ were in fact stars of the show, whereas those promoted by the same as ‘the future’ were in fact no such thing at all (with Potgeiter and Deysel excepted). The little black no9 was also showing promise too, despite his inexperience (I forget his name). Besides, which touring team of 35 doesnt have selectors ‘outisde pick’ written all over them. ?
The Villians
1. Keo ? well, his article titled ‘Boks badly exposed’ was an almost perfect summary of the tour. Noone gets it right all the time (I met Stephen Jones of the Times himself at Smits Fundraising Dinner in London last pm. Had to restrain myself. Other Kiwis and Safas didnt….) but Keo got that one bang on.
2 Dec 2009, 23:36 pm
304. WakaNathan… Keo never gets it right.. he stumples on a bit of wisdom once every 100 articles… but that is by accident and most of the time he does not understand what he wrote
2 Dec 2009, 23:45 pm
OK.. I have declared myself Keo Blogger of the Year.. Banned three times and still in control.. I think only Earl Rose has greater tenacity but then again, I could be wrong… maybe I get the award for the most Tenacious MFker too.
2 Dec 2009, 23:50 pm
OK cheers all.. I will be back over the weekend… Staff Dinner/christmas party tomorrow..
3 Dec 2009, 01:54 am
@graeme1: White people know how to use both upper and lower case, even if they can’t jump or dance.
3 Dec 2009, 05:30 am
What about the Quota player of the year award?
3 Dec 2009, 06:28 am
How about Biggest Looser Tosser Blogger on a Saffa site: Ohhhh, I think Tockles, WaNkanathan …
3 Dec 2009, 06:33 am
Sir Ritchie McCaw.
even you guys could get used to that, what ya reckon?
3 Dec 2009, 06:40 am
@whatever: South Africa doesn’t need you to defend it.
3 Dec 2009, 06:43 am
@whatever: “No mate, decided that having a 9mm pointed at my head twice was once too many times. Reasonable decision I would have thought? But when it comes to reason, you were obviously not in the que!”
So once was okay though? Get real – get a dictionary.
3 Dec 2009, 06:44 am
@KiaKahaNZ: Sounds more distinguished if it was “Sir Richard McCaw” in my opinion.
3 Dec 2009, 06:53 am
someones crying Lord – kumbaya
3 Dec 2009, 07:26 am
@Esoteric: Having a gun pointed at your head once in a sh*thole like SA is probably the national average.
3 Dec 2009, 09:16 am
@Esoteric:
I reckon I’ve met more people who claim to have had a gun pointed to their head, been in the special forces, shot somebody, killed somebody with a coathanger, drunk 500 bottles of whiskey in 1 day in South Africa than anywhere else in the world.
Scratch that I have only ever heard these claims in SA. After a while as a South African I begin to ask myself “where did all these Walter Mitty’s come from?”
3 Dec 2009, 10:09 am
haha, all positive awards go to South Africa and all negative ones to other countries
The ‘Unsporting media personalities that can’t get over losing to Ireland award’ goes to …… Jon Cardinelli and Ryan Vrede
3 Dec 2009, 10:10 am
@chch – welcome back Laulala:
Sorry, I meant to say ‘losing to Ireland yet again’
3 Dec 2009, 15:00 pm
@ all sharks supporters and banaboys: i think i must organise a meeting with julius malema and robert mugabe to explain to you what the future plans for sa rugby is. wake up it is coming very hard and very fact….
3 Dec 2009, 15:11 pm
@graeme1:
care to explain that in ordinary english?
3 Dec 2009, 18:14 pm
Wankanathan @232
actually, it was less of a joke & more a correction of your idiocy
3 Dec 2009, 18:31 pm
@drew:
Forgive me for not finding it amusing this week. I lost a friend of 36yrs to cancer on Tues. He was only 44, 2 young kids.
I suppose a simple spelling mistake was open game tho, no stoop too low round these parts.
3 Dec 2009, 18:58 pm
@WakaNathan:
Stephen Jones is not my favourite – what did the Kiwis and Saffas have to say to him?
3 Dec 2009, 21:24 pm
@Esoteric:
Don’t need your approval either tosser!
3 Dec 2009, 21:27 pm
@Esoteric:
You obviously never had the pleasure. After the first time, you reckon, ah well lightning does not strike the same place twice.
Yeah right!
Maybe you should get a life? perhaps on another planet?
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