Comments on: Pure genius http://www.keo.co.za/2009/12/10/pure-genius/ An independent look at South African rugby Thu, 09 Feb 2012 05:30:33 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Guns http://www.keo.co.za/2009/12/10/pure-genius/#comment-1484140 Guns Thu, 17 Dec 2009 14:22:44 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=48455#comment-1484140 @<a href="#comment-1481037" rel="nofollow">graeme1</a>: wow you are clearly quite a stupid person and a real true racist. @graeme1: wow you are clearly quite a stupid person and a real true racist.

]]> By: Hurricane http://www.keo.co.za/2009/12/10/pure-genius/#comment-1483366 Hurricane Tue, 15 Dec 2009 11:04:52 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=48455#comment-1483366 @<a href="#comment-1482681" rel="nofollow">Big Hit</a>: sorry Big Hit didnt know you had finally come out of the closet,cos i dont watch Piri's ass. Well done. Leonard was doing really well before he got injured in 2007 i think it was,and has been struggling to get fit and stay injury free. I wouldnt call him crap,seemed to do the Job in the NH,mind you for NZ thats not saying much. @Big Hit:
sorry Big Hit didnt know you had finally come out of the closet,cos i dont watch Piri’s ***. Well done.
Leonard was doing really well before he got injured in 2007 i think it was,and has been struggling to get fit and stay injury free. I wouldnt call him ****,seemed to do the Job in the NH,mind you for NZ thats not saying much.

]]> By: Big Hit http://www.keo.co.za/2009/12/10/pure-genius/#comment-1482681 Big Hit Mon, 14 Dec 2009 09:05:41 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=48455#comment-1482681 @<a href="#comment-1482638" rel="nofollow">Hurricane</a>: PdP? is that some sort of weird cross between FDP and PDV? :) Leonard is crap, Ellis is crap, Cowan is just about average and Weepu is a fatass...let's not beat around the bush Kelleher and Marshall are still your best 9s. @Hurricane: PdP? is that some sort of weird cross between FDP and PDV? :) Leonard is ****, Ellis is ****, Cowan is just about average and Weepu is a fatass…let’s not beat around the bush Kelleher and Marshall are still your best 9s.

]]> By: Hurricane http://www.keo.co.za/2009/12/10/pure-genius/#comment-1482638 Hurricane Mon, 14 Dec 2009 08:04:54 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=48455#comment-1482638 @<a href="#comment-1482599" rel="nofollow">Big Hit</a>: All i was saying that this year was not the best for FdP,where as some people think he has been the best player on the planet for the last 3-4 years,and that in itself is wrong. As i said in the Baa Baas game if you watched it Leonard outplayed FdP,but it does not mean Leonard is a better player,i never said that.Maybe you should re read my post,or even open both eyes when reading a comment from a kiwi. We shall see when Leonard gets a bit more game time and stays infury free.Leonard is a good player,and if you think PdP is 3 to 4 times better than him then your hate for all Kiwi is really clouding your judgement @Big Hit:
All i was saying that this year was not the best for FdP,where as some people think he has been the best player on the planet for the last 3-4 years,and that in itself is wrong.
As i said in the Baa Baas game if you watched it Leonard outplayed FdP,but it does not mean Leonard is a better player,i never said that.Maybe you should re read my post,or even open both eyes when reading a comment from a kiwi.
We shall see when Leonard gets a bit more game time and stays infury free.Leonard is a good player,and if you think PdP is 3 to 4 times better than him then your hate for all Kiwi is really clouding your judgement

]]> By: Big Hit http://www.keo.co.za/2009/12/10/pure-genius/#comment-1482599 Big Hit Mon, 14 Dec 2009 05:03:02 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=48455#comment-1482599 @<a href="#comment-1482584" rel="nofollow">Hurricane</a>: FDP at 50% is still three times the player Leonard is, you're judging FDP by his own high standards. @Hurricane: FDP at 50% is still three times the player Leonard is, you’re judging FDP by his own high standards.

]]> By: whatever http://www.keo.co.za/2009/12/10/pure-genius/#comment-1482586 whatever Sun, 13 Dec 2009 23:07:26 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=48455#comment-1482586 @<a href="#comment-1481989" rel="nofollow">Valkyrie</a>: mmmmm, and that makes you a.......? Substitute white for any colour of your choice. Just pathetic! @Valkyrie:

mmmmm, and that makes you a…….? Substitute white for any colour of your choice. Just pathetic!

]]> By: Hurricane http://www.keo.co.za/2009/12/10/pure-genius/#comment-1482584 Hurricane Sun, 13 Dec 2009 22:43:56 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=48455#comment-1482584 @<a href="#comment-1481940" rel="nofollow">BokiNZ</a>: Carter started the 2007 game against France under an injury cloud and was taken off half way through it. As for one player being better than the next cos of a RWC medal is down right stupid comment. RWC medal is team effort,always has been always will be. In 2007 i was actually one of the few that was asking us to play Nick Evans as he was having a cracker of a year,playing better than Carter that year. FDP 2009 was not as good as FdP 2007. He ended on a crap end note and didnt play good at all.As i said earlier on this thread Leonard outplay him against the Baa Baas. I only see 1-2 seasons,but the rest have been mediocre to satifactory,still better than the Halfbacks we have at ther moment. You said FDP has been the best 3 - 4 seasons,that means in 2005 he was a better player than Carter. 2005,no player in any of there careers have played 3tests against the best of the british like he did. @BokiNZ:
Carter started the 2007 game against France under an injury cloud and was taken off half way through it.
As for one player being better than the next cos of a RWC medal is down right stupid comment. RWC medal is team effort,always has been always will be.
In 2007 i was actually one of the few that was asking us to play Nick Evans as he was having a cracker of a year,playing better than Carter that year.
FDP 2009 was not as good as FdP 2007. He ended on a **** end note and didnt play good at all.As i said earlier on this thread Leonard outplay him against the Baa Baas.
I only see 1-2 seasons,but the rest have been mediocre to satifactory,still better than the Halfbacks we have at ther moment. You said FDP has been the best 3 – 4 seasons,that means in 2005 he was a better player than Carter. 2005,no player in any of there careers have played 3tests against the best of the british like he did.

]]> By: Storm outta hell http://www.keo.co.za/2009/12/10/pure-genius/#comment-1482258 Storm outta hell Sun, 13 Dec 2009 09:13:31 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=48455#comment-1482258 Those high-quality performances not so noticeable lately..? Those high-quality performances not so noticeable lately..?

]]> By: mark.a http://www.keo.co.za/2009/12/10/pure-genius/#comment-1482254 mark.a Sun, 13 Dec 2009 08:24:26 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=48455#comment-1482254 Oh boy, when an article starts with "Fourie du Preez has established himself as the finest player on the planet." we must know that it plans to sell on sensationalism. We really need mature sports journalism. Oh boy, when an article starts with “Fourie du Preez has established himself as the finest player on the planet.” we must know that it plans to sell on sensationalism. We really need mature sports journalism.

]]> By: grant10 http://www.keo.co.za/2009/12/10/pure-genius/#comment-1481994 grant10 Sat, 12 Dec 2009 09:55:07 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=48455#comment-1481994 @<a href="#comment-1481989" rel="nofollow">Valkyrie</a>: What the devil has got into you today? You far better than your last 2 posts... @Valkyrie: What the devil has got into you today?

You far better than your last 2 posts…

]]> By: Heavens Game http://www.keo.co.za/2009/12/10/pure-genius/#comment-1481991 Heavens Game Sat, 12 Dec 2009 09:51:34 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=48455#comment-1481991 @<a href="#comment-1481989" rel="nofollow">Valkyrie</a>: ? @Valkyrie: ?

]]> By: Valkyrie http://www.keo.co.za/2009/12/10/pure-genius/#comment-1481989 Valkyrie Sat, 12 Dec 2009 09:44:38 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=48455#comment-1481989 @<a href="#comment-1481938" rel="nofollow">charo</a>: don't call me boet ,you white racist kunt!do you get it! @charo: don’t call me boet ,you white racist ****!do you get it!

]]> By: BokiNZ http://www.keo.co.za/2009/12/10/pure-genius/#comment-1481963 BokiNZ Fri, 11 Dec 2009 23:24:56 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=48455#comment-1481963 @<a href="#comment-1481956" rel="nofollow">charo</a>: uhmm...agree, if not with the incumbent at the time. Think Carter had the crown still firmly fitted on his brow up to then. But you right about the kiwi superlatives...more their media than the man on the street, but even so. Have you noticed that any other team or player that could be making such claims, becomes then "arguably"...? Or one of the...Would've been comical if it weren't so annoying! :lol: @charo: uhmm…agree, if not with the incumbent at the time. Think Carter had the crown still firmly fitted on his brow up to then. But you right about the kiwi superlatives…more their media than the man on the street, but even so. Have you noticed that any other team or player that could be making such claims, becomes then “arguably”…? Or one of the…Would’ve been comical if it weren’t so annoying! :lol:

]]> By: BokiNZ http://www.keo.co.za/2009/12/10/pure-genius/#comment-1481962 BokiNZ Fri, 11 Dec 2009 23:16:54 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=48455#comment-1481962 @<a href="#comment-1481957" rel="nofollow">Nils</a>: BOD? Nah! Definitely not! Good as he may have been for Ireland, he needed to take a Bok scalp from the Lions tour to have achieved that. One of the better performers for the yr? Sure! Player of the yr? No! Mind you...so was the player that ended up with accolade! But...I'll leave you be! You already in for a sleepness night, just for me saying that! Hope I didn't re-open any scars/wounds re Cardiff? For that reason I bid you a peacefull nite! Cheers mate @Nils: BOD? Nah! Definitely not! Good as he may have been for Ireland, he needed to take a Bok scalp from the Lions tour to have achieved that. One of the better performers for the yr? Sure! Player of the yr? No! Mind you…so was the player that ended up with accolade! But…I’ll leave you be! You already in for a sleepness night, just for me saying that! Hope I didn’t re-open any scars/wounds re Cardiff? For that reason I bid you a peacefull nite!

Cheers mate

]]> By: Nils http://www.keo.co.za/2009/12/10/pure-genius/#comment-1481960 Nils Fri, 11 Dec 2009 23:02:14 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=48455#comment-1481960 @<a href="#comment-1481954" rel="nofollow">BokiNZ</a>: I'm off, it's deep night here, cheers and have a good day! @BokiNZ: I’m off, it’s deep night here, cheers and have a good day!

]]> By: Nils http://www.keo.co.za/2009/12/10/pure-genius/#comment-1481959 Nils Fri, 11 Dec 2009 22:59:39 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=48455#comment-1481959 @<a href="#comment-1481954" rel="nofollow">BokiNZ</a>: "Cardiff being the low. Which means there can be another high…not 2011 though." You know, he went off injured. But I agree, this was low indeed. As for 2011, write them off freely, no problems. ;) @BokiNZ: “Cardiff being the low. Which means there can be another high…not 2011 though.”

You know, he went off injured. But I agree, this was low indeed. As for 2011, write them off freely, no problems. ;)

]]> By: Nils http://www.keo.co.za/2009/12/10/pure-genius/#comment-1481957 Nils Fri, 11 Dec 2009 22:54:37 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=48455#comment-1481957 @<a href="#comment-1481953" rel="nofollow">BokiNZ</a>: "Think ‘05 has been Carter’s climax and it’s been all downhill from there, Cardiff being the low." I would not say so. He has many very good games with Crusaders in 06 and 08. And not so few very good games with the ABs, including some notable thrashings of South Africa when he shined. Likewise, FDP shined in many games for the Bulls and Boks. As for the FDP best for last 3/4 seasons, well, he shone till 3N, he was poor thereafter. For that matter BOD shined more this year, as he was very good from the start till the end of the season, captaining the only unbeaten team this year. For me, BOD is player of the year. @BokiNZ: “Think ‘05 has been Carter’s climax and it’s been all downhill from there, Cardiff being the low.”

I would not say so. He has many very good games with Crusaders in 06 and 08. And not so few very good games with the ABs, including some notable thrashings of South Africa when he shined.

Likewise, FDP shined in many games for the Bulls and Boks.

As for the FDP best for last 3/4 seasons, well, he shone till 3N, he was poor thereafter.

For that matter BOD shined more this year, as he was very good from the start till the end of the season, captaining the only unbeaten team this year.

For me, BOD is player of the year.

]]> By: charo http://www.keo.co.za/2009/12/10/pure-genius/#comment-1481956 charo Fri, 11 Dec 2009 22:54:25 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=48455#comment-1481956 after the bok/pom pool game in rwc2007, i said that fdp had taken over the mantle of worlds best rugby player from chris latham. up to then latham was the best against allcomers. since rwc2007, dan the man has been brilliant but overall fourie du preez has been the standout rugby player on the planet (sorry for using overboard kiwi adjectives) after the bok/pom pool game in rwc2007, i said that fdp had taken over the mantle of worlds best rugby player from chris latham.
up to then latham was the best against allcomers.
since rwc2007, dan the man has been brilliant but overall fourie du preez has been the standout rugby player on the planet (sorry for using overboard kiwi adjectives)

]]> By: BokiNZ http://www.keo.co.za/2009/12/10/pure-genius/#comment-1481954 BokiNZ Fri, 11 Dec 2009 22:44:34 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=48455#comment-1481954 @<a href="#comment-1481952" rel="nofollow">Nils</a>: Now dissect Carter's track record since Nov '04 (as a courtesy) till now and see if you can come up with game after series, after yr of brilliant performances like that? Think '05 has been Carter's climax and it's been all downhill from there, Cardiff being the low. Which means there can be another high...not 2011 though :lol: @Nils: Now dissect Carter’s track record since Nov ’04 (as a courtesy) till now and see if you can come up with game after series, after yr of brilliant performances like that? Think ’05 has been Carter’s climax and it’s been all downhill from there, Cardiff being the low. Which means there can be another high…not 2011 though :lol:

]]> By: BokiNZ http://www.keo.co.za/2009/12/10/pure-genius/#comment-1481953 BokiNZ Fri, 11 Dec 2009 22:39:59 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=48455#comment-1481953 @<a href="#comment-1481951" rel="nofollow">Nils</a>: Wasn't saying FdP a legend either. What I AM saying is HE IS THE BEST PLAYER CURRENTLY and has been for the last 3/4 seasons. Carter '04...maybe, but Lions '05 much bigger occassion. Basically, he single-handedly beat the best of the British. OK, the fact that BOD got double-teamed didn't help, but will forever remain a mystery if he would've had anything to say to Carter in such sublime form. Which brings me to FdP...Similar performances (although different position) in both the WC and S14 Final. Therefore this article, in my mind is just deserves! @Nils: Wasn’t saying FdP a legend either. What I AM saying is HE IS THE BEST PLAYER CURRENTLY and has been for the last 3/4 seasons.

Carter ’04…maybe, but Lions ’05 much bigger occassion. Basically, he single-handedly beat the best of the British. OK, the fact that BOD got double-teamed didn’t help, but will forever remain a mystery if he would’ve had anything to say to Carter in such sublime form. Which brings me to FdP…Similar performances (although different position) in both the WC and S14 Final. Therefore this article, in my mind is just deserves!

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