Benjamin dropped for bad mouth
12 Dec 2009
Ryno Benjamin was excluded from the Springbok Sevens team for using foul language.
Benjamin was withdrawn from the George event for disciplinary reasons on Thursday, and coach Paul Treu revealed the reason why.
‘He used foul language against me and at some members of the management team and the senior players heard it,’ said Treu. ‘This is something we as a team have addressed and the important thing now is for us a team to move forward.
‘This why we have someone here like Gavin Swanepoel [life coach], who is with the squad to assist with any situation like this. If there are any players who need assistance and help, we have the people here to assist our players.’
Meanwhile, the Boks face Fiji in the Cup quarter-final at 14:57 on Saturday in a repeat of last week’s Dubai quarter. The Boks beat Zimbabwe 29-5 and drew with Kenya 12-all in their second and third matches on Friday, but Kenya finished first in their group due to points difference.
86 Comments
12 Dec 2009, 09:39 am
foul mothed dragon
12 Dec 2009, 09:40 am
Drawing with Kenya … man. I know Kenya have improved, but you’d expect better. Hope they pull something out of the bag against Fiji.
12 Dec 2009, 09:44 am
Ryno Benjamin you have let the team down. You have let your supporters down. Ryno my favourite player too. One of our very best 7′s players. Now get your discipline back. Hope Ryno has learned by his mistake. The team needs him.
Good on you Paul Treu, Don’t take that nonense. Paul Treu a true gentleman and a great coach.
12 Dec 2009, 09:45 am
Beautiful day for a joint
12 Dec 2009, 09:45 am
sorry meant nonsense.
12 Dec 2009, 09:46 am
Djou ma se…
Foeitog, Ryno.
12 Dec 2009, 09:46 am
Sorry meant rugby
12 Dec 2009, 09:47 am
@kaksioek: 2 – Fiji going to be just too strong for us.
12 Dec 2009, 09:48 am
@TheTackler: Well Tackler trust you to be there quick on the gossip threads
12 Dec 2009, 09:52 am
@TheTackler: plonker
12 Dec 2009, 10:03 am
WTF?
12 Dec 2009, 11:50 am
@kaksioek: Kenya are a very, very good side. They can and have beaten all the big guns in 7s including Fiji, SA, NZ.
They are on the verge of getting consistency too. These “upsets” like Russia vs Aus will be more common due to 7s being an Olympic sport.
In the next few years I’d say watch the likes of Russia, China, USA who have great Olympic programs.
Funnily enough Kenya has a great Olympic legacy too – they will only get better.
12 Dec 2009, 11:54 am
I’m sorry, I can’t take 7s seriously if Benjamin is one of the “star” players in the team. Yuck
12 Dec 2009, 11:57 am
@Heavens Game: Agree. Remember Kenya has some brilliant runners. They are among the best runners in the world at any distance.
In 7′s speed is very important. Skill too but if you have the speed you can win many of these games.
Feel good to see Kenya doing well.
12 Dec 2009, 12:03 pm
@Puma: Yeah – more middle distance – but those middle distance runners still run fast and sustain it.
It is good – Zim also has some speedsters, I saw a try from a highlights package of their winger just blowing away the Fijians last week.
The Boks are very good too – they seem to have a good balance but their defense seems to lapse too often.
12 Dec 2009, 12:09 pm
@Heavens Game: 15 – Yes last year the blitz bokke defence was superb. We do have many new players. So maybe with more time together they will get better. We have some speedsters in our side too.
The Kenyans yes, are fast from the 10km up to the marathon. Then even in those distances you have to have speed training. Kenyans are tall too which helps in this game. They are just born to run. This is the game for them and feel really good they are doing well. Proud of our African brothers up north.
Never saw the Zim game so cant say.
12 Dec 2009, 12:12 pm
@Puma: Kenya play with a great style of rugby and the way they play with a good spirit wins them a lot of fans.
Kenya seems to be everyones second best team i.e. after their country.
12 Dec 2009, 12:15 pm
Kenya is predominantly good at the middle and longer distances but also won a bronze in the 4 X400m relay at the Olympics in 1968 and followed it up with a gold in the same number during 72.
12 Dec 2009, 12:20 pm
@Robzim: We all know they have an athletic legacy – 7s is the perfect code for them. Olympic time 2016, I reckon they are going to be formidable.
I watched a documentary on the training regime for their runners, at altitude – quite hardcore. If that rubs off on their 7s side and more people start playing the game…
12 Dec 2009, 12:36 pm
Boks played poorly against Kenia, even when we were behind there was no urgency, would stand for 15 seconds deciding who we were gonna pass the penalty to.
12 Dec 2009, 12:40 pm
@Heavens Game:
It is cool.
I think they might do well against the Aussies this afternoon as long as they can keep their discipline.
12 Dec 2009, 12:43 pm
@Robzim: It will be good – good game on now Zim vs Russia
12 Dec 2009, 12:44 pm
@Robzim: Extra time
12 Dec 2009, 12:45 pm
Russia wins
12 Dec 2009, 12:55 pm
I always wonder if Treu couldn’t be better utilised somewhere in union…
12 Dec 2009, 12:58 pm
Oz Vs Kenya.
NZ Vs Pomgolia.
SA Vs Fiji.
Samoa Vs Argentina.
Anything could happen here………and probably will.
12 Dec 2009, 13:00 pm
apart from todd clever, are there any real yanks in this usa team?
12 Dec 2009, 13:01 pm
@cane: How you Cannie? Hope well.
Yip, anything could happen in those games. All are good teams.
Fiji looking the business tough. Playing really well. Also Kenya could beat Oz. Somehow don’t see our Blitz Bokke beating Fiji.
12 Dec 2009, 13:02 pm
meant though.
12 Dec 2009, 13:04 pm
SA dream team?
Kankowski
Schalk Britz
Spies
Aplon
Habana
Juries
Kockott
Ebersohn
Koster
Mapoe
12 Dec 2009, 13:05 pm
@Heavens Game: 17 – Heavens, Yip, think this is the game for them to excel in. Feel good to see them playing well.
You right think Kenya is everyones 2nd side.
12 Dec 2009, 13:08 pm
@Robzim: Hi Rob, That could be some team. Brent Russell was great at 7′s too.
12 Dec 2009, 13:09 pm
@Robzim: at last someone has found a rugby code for kanko to excell in.i think treu should call him up immediately because he will become a superstar in this form of the game.
12 Dec 2009, 13:09 pm
@charo: Not sure Charo, They never looked that good though.
Is Todd Clever still going to play for the Lions next year?
12 Dec 2009, 13:13 pm
anybody knows how rassie’s favourite,sireli, been doing thus far in the competition?
12 Dec 2009, 13:16 pm
@Robzim:
rob, wouldn’t have kockott there, rather brent russell or joe pietersen.
would also have jpp for koster.
still, a bloody good team
12 Dec 2009, 13:17 pm
Sireli played for about 4 minutes against Australia.
Looked quite trim and “walked” over for a try during a runaway victory.
12 Dec 2009, 13:18 pm
@Valkyrie: yes kankowski would excel in sevens, he is powderpuff in union
12 Dec 2009, 13:20 pm
@Transformation:
don’t know if richie mccaw would agree after that classic hand off while scoring against crusaders
12 Dec 2009, 13:21 pm
@Puma:
“”Also Kenya could beat Oz.”"
Could !
I think they will Cougar.
7′s will become a great Olympic Sport. More variable results than 15′s even now. And by the time it gets to the Olympics, many more Teams will be contenders.
12 Dec 2009, 13:26 pm
@charo:
#36
Hi,
Yip, maybe, there are also a few others, I think one can easily pick two sides of about equal strength.I wonder if they are going to look at including the top guns when sevens becomes an Olympic sport.
Maybe they should, that gold means a lot and is getting scarce in this place these days.
12 Dec 2009, 13:28 pm
@Robzim:
hope they do proper genetic testing this time.
would be a disgrace if a bunch of females won the gold medal
12 Dec 2009, 13:30 pm
@charo: i hope they start with meisiekind.lol
12 Dec 2009, 13:36 pm
@charo:
#42
They better.
The other day I watched some underwater rugby at a local swimming pool. They play it in the 5m section, 5 a side.
The best player was a girl, she seemed to be able to hold her breath for about 4 minutes at a time.
Closest thing to a real mermaid I ever saw.
12 Dec 2009, 13:44 pm
@charo: hey charo, how’s the gold coast?
12 Dec 2009, 14:54 pm
Maybe Ryno should not come down to Namaqualand as often as he does. He probably thought he was just speaking Algemeen Beskaafde Afrikaans.
12 Dec 2009, 15:04 pm
My ultimate 7′s team would be…….
1. Pierre Spies.
2. Ryan Kankowski.
3. Jean Deysel.
4. Brent Russell.
5. Francois Steyn.
6. Bryan Habana.
7. Jean DeVilliers (c).
12 Dec 2009, 15:15 pm
@Karma-zaf: that team is too white and will only exists in your dreams mate!is habana the token black?lol.
12 Dec 2009, 15:17 pm
@Karma-zaf: #47
Are you for real?
12 Dec 2009, 15:21 pm
@nama1: he should change his nick to karma-dof!
12 Dec 2009, 15:52 pm
Treu is a k@k coach.
12 Dec 2009, 16:38 pm
@SABC: #51
Catch any fish yet? Try again.
12 Dec 2009, 17:57 pm
Treu desrved the indignity for picking a felon such as Benjamin
Rose and Benjamin to appear in court
Tuesday, September 09 Print Golden Lions
rugby players Earl Rose and Ryno Benjamin will appear in the Randburg magistrates court today on alleged drug dealing charges.
The two Lions players will appear in the dock alongside two other co-accused in charges relating to their arrest on 31 January of this year.
Rose and Benjamin were arrested in January after being found in a flat in Fontainebleau, Randburg which contained a significant amount of illegal substances.
The amount of drugs found in the flat has prompted the state to prosecute the players on intent to deal charges.
A Golden Lions representative claimed that the drugs had been “planted”.
“We are aware of the charges against them. But according to our own lawyers’ investigation into the case, the drugs were planted on the players,” GLRU chief executive Manie Reyneke told the Beeld newspaper on Monday.
“We are convinced the case against them won’t continue.” he said.
With thanks to the Beeld.
12 Dec 2009, 18:05 pm
@Hondo: LOL!
12 Dec 2009, 18:10 pm
@Hondo: Sounds like an open and shut case according to Manie:
Ryno: “I have no f#in idea how the f#in drugs ended up under my f#in bed, f#”
Judge: “They must have been planted then – case dismissed.”
12 Dec 2009, 18:13 pm
@kwas: LOL!
Ryno: F%^# your Honour! I f%^# pass on f%^# grass!
12 Dec 2009, 19:03 pm
@Hondo: well this country has had killers, racists, wife-beaters and drug sniffers. You on the other hand are an unadulterated doos!
12 Dec 2009, 19:05 pm
@Hondo:#53
This is probably thr 10th time this past week that you posted that piece. It must give you quite a hard-on hence the repetition.
Give us the reports in the Beeld of Japie Mulder having *** with under age girls as well to camouflage your blatant bias against rugby players of colour.
Or Bullet trying to drown his ex-wife.
Or Johan Roux trying to do Joost’s wife in with a few thousand bucks.
Or Johan le Roux trying to con SARS with his export business.
12 Dec 2009, 19:11 pm
@nama1: Slow down! Didn’t know there was any racial connections?
12 Dec 2009, 19:11 pm
potty mouth
is he dropped or out of the sevens squad
in the real world you use foul language with your boss you are fired!!
12 Dec 2009, 19:20 pm
@Johan Fourie: #59
This is Hondo we talking about here, Johan.
Why do you think he keep on repeating that piece?
12 Dec 2009, 19:35 pm
“Treu desrved the indignity for picking a felon such as Benjamin” (Hondo, p53)
felon (plural felons)
1. A person convicted of a felony. (Wiki)
I don’t think that Benjamin was convicted of the charges brought against him, Hondo.
But as we know, you are not going to allow facts to stand in your way if you have an opportunity to denigrate certain kind of players, are you?
12 Dec 2009, 19:41 pm
@fish out of water: #60
I think he should be chuck out of the squad for the whole season and forced to apologise to Treu, his team mates and the management team before he can be considered again.
12 Dec 2009, 19:55 pm
Well, they’re playing like a bunch of morons. For the second tournament in a row. But as long as they use good clean language while they do so, I suppose it’s alright.
12 Dec 2009, 20:19 pm
@nama1:
Rest assured he won’t be convicted, for obvious reasons
And it’s not his 1st, there were fe investigations prior to that in CT against him in 2005.
How’s January’s case progresses? just curious
12 Dec 2009, 20:26 pm
@Johan Fourie: @kwas:
More of the same,
I don’t watch the 7s but if a felon such as Benjamon is picked to represent his country, someone may raise the integrity issue I would imagine?
@nama1:
Call it the education gap
Those players NO LONGER represent their country, they are private individuals, Benjamin persumably represents SA while there is a drug trafficking case against him?
Have you discussed the difference in the local sheben?
12 Dec 2009, 20:32 pm
@Hondo: #65
Fact of the matter is that he has not been convicted of any crime and therefore cannot be called a “felon”
January will appear in court on January 22, I think.
What are you implying? That every time a person of colour is acquitted in a court of law, it is because of his colour?
12 Dec 2009, 20:42 pm
@Hondo: #66
Not keen on visiting shebeens, oubaas. Actually there are none where I live.
12 Dec 2009, 20:43 pm
@nama1: why would you waste your time with this antiquated fossil? He thinks he is john wayne so no amount of rational thought will penetrate his obtuse mind.
12 Dec 2009, 20:47 pm
Hondo, do you think the charge of driving under the influence made against Andre Pretorius a few years ago (while he was the incumbent Bok flyhalf) was later withdrawn because of his colour?
12 Dec 2009, 20:53 pm
@Pearl Rose: #69
He is good for a laugh sometimes. Don’t allow yourself to get worked up by him.
12 Dec 2009, 20:56 pm
@nama1: i know he is a wind-up merchant. I guess the springboks goal kicking coach is also a “felon”
12 Dec 2009, 21:02 pm
Earl Rose also has a drug related charge to atend to early next year in the Johannesburg High Court
12 Dec 2009, 21:05 pm
@Pearl Rose:
He ought to be if you believe Hondo’s definition of a felon. But then again, he is a bit paler so he is probably not one.
12 Dec 2009, 22:19 pm
@nama1: I reckon Ryno and Ricky must be proud of Quade.
12 Dec 2009, 22:31 pm
@kwas: the same way joost must be rooting for tiger.
13 Dec 2009, 02:20 am
Too many orks in the RSA sevens side… a team of big fast players will always dominate a team of fast orks… other than the odd miracle…
13 Dec 2009, 07:45 am
@bryce_in_oz: Orks?
“The Orks are a race from the fictional Warhammer 40,000 universe. They are described as being tall, muscular humanoids, with green skin and a penchant for violence.”
Green skin? Sies man.
13 Dec 2009, 09:00 am
phillip burger should be in the sa 7s team
13 Dec 2009, 09:39 am
@klippies101:
He was… and brilliant… he moved on…
13 Dec 2009, 11:02 am
@bryce_in_oz: non-tackling Orks…and piss-poor tactics…kicking for line-out ball when the opposite side has far better(taller) lineout jumpers..
poor coaching
poor decision making
poor tackling
Did not deserve to leave George with anything..!!
13 Dec 2009, 19:58 pm
@kwas: #375
As proud as you are of ET, yes?
13 Dec 2009, 21:45 pm
@nama1: As a matter of fact, yes, I am proud of that little alien, he defines my childhood. Closest thing to ET these days probably Wall-E, but just not the same heartwarming character. Who will ever forget those iconic words ‘ET phone home’. Man, I am getting all emotional just thinking about it. ET fan forever!
13 Dec 2009, 22:39 pm
@kwas:
Die onderstaande is wat ‘n blogger genaamd Kwas skryf op PRAAG se website. Is julle dieselfde persoon?
“Die volk is opsoek na leiding. Iemand om die teuels op te tel. Ek is jonk en ongeskoold in SA politici, so ek kan nie name noem of gebeurtenisse herhaal nie, maar die soeke is daar.
Die jong afrikaner van vandag weet nie waar hy vandaan kom en hoekom hy nou so onderdruk word nie. Ons moet oppas dat hulle, soos ek, dit nie maar net aanvaar omdat daar nie ‘n ander uitweg is nie.
ET is beslis die enigste leier wat ek kan sien wat geraas maak namens die afrikaner volk, maar stem saam dat hy sy party sal moet herstruktureer.”
Ek dink nie hy/jy praat hier van ‘n ruimtewesentjie wat wil huis toe gaan nie, of hoe?
14 Dec 2009, 10:05 am
We won the Sevens Championship under Paul Treu last season…
How does he suddenly become a kak coach…?
Of course it has nothing to do with the attitude and execution of the players…
Once again… when we do well and win… the players are fantastic… when we do badly and lose… the coach is kak…
great to see all the knowledgeable analytical rugby brains at work…
14 Dec 2009, 17:58 pm
Treu is not a kak coach.
NZ and Fiji have retained the cores of their squads from last year, most other nations,incl SA have not got that core avalible for whatever reason
Our guys need to gell properly and develop a “team understanding” and then and only then will they play to their potential.
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