Collins rates Ricky
14 Dec 2009
Stand-in Ospreys captain Jerry Collins says Ricky Januarie showed his class in the recent 62-7 hammering of Viadana.
Januarie is on a three-month loan to the Welsh club with the hope that he will rediscover some form. Injuries to the frontline scrumhalves meant he was rushed into the weekend’s fixture, but he didn’t let his team-mates down.
‘He was good, he pretty much got off the plane and had to play. That’s a tough ask for any player,’ Collins told the Western Mail. ‘He was pretty much playing blindfolded.
‘But we stressed up front all week that to make his job easier we had to just play, get the ball on the front foot and deliver it. Ricky has been around a long time, he knows how to play and we are pleased to have him. A player of his calibre knows what’s expected of him and what needs to be done.
‘We didn’t want to complicate things for him and he was happy to get a try in his first game.’
Januarie battled to nail down a starting spot towards the end of the 2009 Super 14, and Dewald Duvenhage continued to keep him on the bench during the back end of the Currie Cup. Januarie also missed the end-of-year tour with national coach Peter de Villiers offering the explanation: ‘I already know what I have in Ricky.’
After the win over Viadana, Januarie said he’s glad to be back on the park.
‘In my time with the Ospreys I will be playing rugby, which is important. I haven’t played for five weeks and my last game was the Currie Cup semi-final.
‘Playing for three months for the Ospreys is going to be good for me, it will help me to get back into fitness.’
147 Comments
14 Dec 2009, 11:21 am
cool stuff Jerry…
let’s hope Ricky finds his mojo there and brings it back to Cape Town…!!
14 Dec 2009, 11:30 am
@ufo:
His ‘mojo’ will come back if the bugger gets back into shape. Its as simple as that.
He’s an explosive player when fit, and that’s what makes him good, if he’s out of shape, he doesn’t have the technical ability to make up for it.
14 Dec 2009, 11:35 am
Those knocks to the head are finally taking their toll on old Jerry…
14 Dec 2009, 11:44 am
@PissAnt: Aw c’mon Ant.
14 Dec 2009, 11:47 am
i wonder why the ospreys didn’t contract the heir apparent Francois Hougaard?
14 Dec 2009, 11:48 am
@Provincejoulekkading:
Bwahaha.
Ja old poor Ricky…
Would love to have him back in decent form so good luck to him.
But this interview I hardly read anything about Collins raving about him, he is simply stated what is expected of a professional player.
Will judge Ricky once he is back/
14 Dec 2009, 11:50 am
He just picked up a bit of wait… he”ll lose it, he’ll regain his speed… but Duvies is younger and more energetic…Ricky might still have some problems making the staring XV
14 Dec 2009, 11:55 am
@PissAnt:
He landed in Ireland a day before the game and couldn’t practice with the team and yet he performed well.
If that is ‘what is expected pf a professional player’ then I wish we had more in SA.
14 Dec 2009, 12:02 pm
@SpringbokSarah:
Duvenage is not that good. He does the basics well but that’s about it.
14 Dec 2009, 12:11 pm
@wpw: I think he’s good… remember all greats started by doing the basics well and building on that
14 Dec 2009, 12:22 pm
@SpringbokSarah:
You think he’s good or good looking???
14 Dec 2009, 13:03 pm
Him not being at home is enough of a blessing for WP rugby , remember how he looked this year after the holidays , he will come back sharper and leaner
14 Dec 2009, 14:54 pm
@Transformation:
Because he has a contract with the Bulls?
14 Dec 2009, 15:06 pm
Francois Hougaard is overrated and should never have toured with the Boks recently.
14 Dec 2009, 15:13 pm
@wpw: #8 I think you’ll find Ricky is putting the H into W(h)ales, not Ireland.
14 Dec 2009, 15:18 pm
@wpw: he’s a very good player…and he’s kind of cute
14 Dec 2009, 15:19 pm
@kaksioek:
Oh dear!!!
14 Dec 2009, 15:20 pm
@SpringbokSarah:
Hoe het ek geweet???
14 Dec 2009, 15:22 pm
@wpw: well the fact I am a 16 year old girl probably does help… hey Stormers have a lot of hot guys… beach training sessions are always fun
14 Dec 2009, 15:28 pm
@SpringbokSarah:
I know Sarah. I happen to be one of your FB buddies!!!
14 Dec 2009, 15:30 pm
I don’t think I can ever bring myself to rate Januarie. Even when he plays well he isn’t consistent. I don’t think he’ll ever be a test player. Especially that SA probably has the widest selection of scrumhalves in the world. FDP, Vermaak, Kockott, Sarel Pretorious and I think Duvenhage isn’t too bad either. I don’t think Ricky will ever make the Bok squad again because of this, so hopefully he will start playing well over-seas and get a nice contract over there.
14 Dec 2009, 15:32 pm
@wpw: oh ****… I didn’t know that… you lot should really tell me these things
14 Dec 2009, 15:41 pm
I think Januarie is passed his prime both physically and mentally. Collins was impressed with his performance against Viadana. Who the heck is Viadana? Regardless Januarie is extremely gifted on his day. His day only comes once or twice a year unfortunately. Even those days are becomming less and less now that he is becomming older.
14 Dec 2009, 15:54 pm
Tygervalley Mcdonalds is making a huge loss this festive season. No Ricky No Bonus! Wonder if Wales have any Mcdonalds joints, or should that be McJones.
14 Dec 2009, 15:56 pm
@Slappes: ha ha… I actually think it’s more due to the beer
14 Dec 2009, 16:06 pm
Sarah, when hes done guzzling he normally cleans out Mcdonalds. Bad combo. btw did you know that blogger Gunther is the nightshift manager at Mcdonalds?
14 Dec 2009, 16:15 pm
I can’t believe some of the comments I’m seeing on this thread! Is this how you treat a Bok player who’s put in some good service for his country? Its pathetic how you okes love to kick a player when he’s down. Look at the kak that gets hurled at Jacobs and Januarie when they’re having a bad year but all the excuses under the sun are made for Spies or Olivier.
2008 was a phenomenal year for RJ. I seem to remember him having a significant role in each of our major victories that year. Thanks RJ’s moment of genius at Hamilton we won in NZ for the first time in 10 years! I wonder how far that went to helping the Boks psyche this year. He was on fire against Aus in Ellis Park and got MOM at Twickenham after we stuffed the Poms. No FdP in that game if I remember. He was feisty and tenacious the whole game. So yes he’s out of form but give the guy some goddamn respect. He’s done things on the rugby pitch most of us here can only dream of.
14 Dec 2009, 16:16 pm
@Slappes: Okes like you make me sick.
14 Dec 2009, 16:21 pm
Crouchy, you wanna puke?
14 Dec 2009, 16:21 pm
Stadig met die dop daar in Walles… die bierglase is grooter daar!
14 Dec 2009, 16:42 pm
Very good move this for Ricky, it really is.
He’ll be back for the S14. Match Fit and hopefully in good condition.
I just hope he completely drop the booz and stuff and just focus on his rugby now and leave all that **** on the back seat.
Anyways, Good Luck over there Ricky.
14 Dec 2009, 16:43 pm
@wpw: can you smell the K@K you are talking??? Please man…
14 Dec 2009, 16:45 pm
Francois Hougaard is the next big thing…this kid is raw talent. Every true rugby man, who played the game at a decent level could tell you that much. But, he needs to be mentored and luckily he’s at the Bulls where Fourie Du Preez can keep an eye on the boy.
14 Dec 2009, 16:58 pm
@Crouching Tiger Hidden Bokke: I agree.
I watch Adi in particular very carefully and I’m shocked how much criticism the guy gets when he does the slightest thing wrong. And very little praise for his exceptional distribution and finishing. He is definitely not an inside centre but makes an awesome 13 in my opinion. J Fourie must move to fullback as when need his class and pace at the back
As for Ricky he really does offer something different (when hes fit) and in a think he still has a few games in him for the Boks
14 Dec 2009, 17:32 pm
@Bok fan:
1. Adi can ONLY pass the ball to his LEFT, he doesn’t pass to the blind side and HARDLY ever scrambles to his right!
2. Adi gets away with a lot of FWD passes which I believe aren’t intentional, simply his passing technique not good enough for his pass to be thrown lateral
3. He dropped on average 4 balls a Test per 80 minutes during the B&ILs and the Tri Nations
4. Adi turned over the ball to the opposition on average 5 times per test per 80 minutes.
I spare you the statistics of his defensive shortcomings and lack of tackling
14 Dec 2009, 17:33 pm
We need Ricky back in form. We need a good second for FdP. Guys like Hougaard, Vermaak, Duvenhage etc will get their chance in the future. I would prefer 2 experienced, IN FORM, scrummies for the WC. If Ricky is fit and in form, I’ll play him as back-up to Fourie.
Jacobs is a 13, not 12. But our best combo is de Villiers/Fourie. F.Steyn shouild be 15.
14 Dec 2009, 17:37 pm
@wpw: Copy, Paste, and Print that comment. Frame it. I have a funny feeling it will come back to bite you in the a$# one day. Perhaps he shouldn;t have gone on tour, but he is not over rated. He is a huge talent.
14 Dec 2009, 17:38 pm
@Ned:
A wistful thinking, we shall see, the quota system will ensure his place in the WP match XXII anyway.
I rate January BUT not as a scrumhalf.
And in the first place, whom did January excell against? Against Clermont? Leinster?? or Saracens?
Thumping a no name Italian rugby team is hardly a yardstick to evaluate his newly found capabilities
Hold judgement!
14 Dec 2009, 17:41 pm
Can anyone tell me why Mapoe was over looked for the tour? In my opinion he is our second best 11, and he is still young enough to move to 14, where JP is not performing at the moment.
14 Dec 2009, 17:50 pm
@rich1: i guess ricky must be out of contract with wp/stormers then?
14 Dec 2009, 17:52 pm
@Bok fan:
I checked for you:
Adi Jacobs was dropped for the 3rd Test against The Lions and spent the whole TriNation series on the bench, he came back against France and that was a sorry tale, the futility of picking him was raised on Keo.co.za few times last month.
Now, Adi was dropped from the BoksXV by a coach who is not white, so it landed him into a hot water with the quota monitoring fellas, you have to assume it was done for a valid reason!
14 Dec 2009, 17:53 pm
@Johan Fourie: 11 – Johan, I think all of us wondered why Mapoe never got selected. JPP not playing well at the moment. Well he never played well on the eoyt. I would have had Mapoe start at 14.
Mapoe has huge talent. Probably will get a call up next year. Well hope he does. Lets see how he plays in the S14. Think he will be one to watch.
14 Dec 2009, 17:53 pm
@Crouching Tiger Hidden Bokke: well said crouchy!
14 Dec 2009, 17:55 pm
@wpw: well said
Francois Hougaard is definitely the most over rated player in sa ruggas
total blasphemy he earned his 1st cap for boks already
14 Dec 2009, 17:56 pm
@Puma: Agree Puma. Lets hope JP comes back to form. It’s not really bad form, just think he needs to get more involved in play. Lazy at times.
Bulls should have signed Mapoe!
14 Dec 2009, 17:56 pm
@Puma:
I concur!
14 Dec 2009, 17:58 pm
@Crouching Tiger Hidden Bokke: couldnt have said it bette myself
there’s something disconcerting abt the way we kick players like Januarie, Adi when they’re down but players till want Meisikind to have another chance
and APPLAUD Frncois Hougaard earning a cap
very very disconcerting!!!
14 Dec 2009, 17:59 pm
@Johan Fourie: Hey!!!!!!! What you mean Bulls should have signed him…hehehe Was hoping the Sharks would sign Mapoe
(You know those Free Staters love Durbs..hehe) Serious though, he is one for the future for sure. Superb player.
JPP will be back. One thing about him he has great defence. Just this eoyt never played well.
14 Dec 2009, 18:00 pm
@Papoose: He should not have been picked for the EOYT, but he is a huge talent. When Joost retired I thought we would never be able to replace him. Now look at FdP. Way better than Joost. Next year Hougaard will continue to improve, and the next year. Watch him by 2012!
14 Dec 2009, 18:02 pm
@Puma: LOL!
14 Dec 2009, 18:06 pm
@Papoose: Was January in form this year? Read my earlier comment about Ricky. Some people keep on kicking John Smit, FdP, Schalk Burger….. All good, cream will rise to the top. Nothing to do with race. Read my comment regarding Mapoe.
14 Dec 2009, 18:15 pm
@Johan Fourie: @49
no doubt he’s a talent
huge potential
it was too early for him to earn his cap when we have such quality in the wings
my distaste has nothing to with him as a person but moreso how quickly other talents get the “quota” tag as soon as the shoe is on the other foot
14 Dec 2009, 18:20 pm
@Johan Fourie: @51
let me 1st say Julius is nt my best friend hehehe
the vitriol brandished to ricky is truely undeserved and unwarranted. yes he lost form, lets nt be so fickle, MOM performance when we trounced England 08! same with Pienaar.
they are talents tht offer an alternative to the current crop and we have the lierty to change the gameplan with those type of players
i’ll preach this till the chickens come home to roost. we dont value enough having different styles of players on the bench so we make tactical substitutions and nt timing substitutions.
Mallet was one of the few who got it right. thts y i’ll always wish those 2 a speedy recovery to form and nt kick them while they’re down!!!
14 Dec 2009, 18:26 pm
@Papoose: hougaard earn his first cap as a super quota! Everyone is aware of that, after the royal **** up he single handedly engineered against saracens he gets patted on the back with a CAP!!! Even frans ludeke was probably flummoxed by that one, cos he dropped the palooka & shifted him around the backline in the currie cup!
14 Dec 2009, 18:26 pm
@Papoose: But that is not completely accurate Papoose. Many “white” players endure the same. Wynand for one. He really plays well at the Bulls, but struggle with the Boks. That is why he isn’t the 1st choice. Morne Steyn was the best 10 in the Tri-Nations and S14, yet people critisize him for being one dimentional. Fact is the Bulls scored more tries with him at 10 than with any other flyhalf. Remember, the guys are instructed to play a certain game plan.
If someone is off form, like January was this year, he should be dropped. Same goes for Schalk Burger. Brussouw is in the seat, Burger must now either outplay him or Juan Smith. Jacques Fourie is in the seat (like Jacobs was last year), now AD must outplay him.
Colour of skin plays NO role in my mind when selecting players.
14 Dec 2009, 18:29 pm
@Papoose: Agree on that. But their is a big difference between kicking a player and stating the facts. Both Ricky and AD have the ability to come back, no doubt. Lets hope they do, because we need them to. We need 30 players capable of playing in a WC Final.
14 Dec 2009, 18:35 pm
@Transformation: Stop with this “quota” thing please. It is so yesteryear. The reason Ludeke moved Hougaard around was because FdP and Heini Adams are the 2 1st choise 9′s.
Point is, Hougaard didn’t pick himself, PdV did. Can you blame Hougaard for having a poor tour? No, he was moved around in the backline, and he is still young. How would any younster perform in the same situation? It was a wrong decision to play him in the eoyt.
14 Dec 2009, 18:44 pm
@Hondo:#35
What is WO’s weaknesses, Mr Rugby Analyst.
14 Dec 2009, 18:48 pm
@nama1: May I answer that?
He isn’t the most creative player
He tends to hold on to the ball too long
He tends to step inside to much(defences knows this)
14 Dec 2009, 18:50 pm
@nama1: His strengths are:
Strong defence
High workrate
Good finisher
Wins many turnovers
14 Dec 2009, 18:53 pm
@Johan Fourie:
So what is Adi’s strengths, if any?
14 Dec 2009, 18:55 pm
@nama1: Many.
Good finisher
Reads the game well
Good finisher
Brilliant in broken play
14 Dec 2009, 18:57 pm
@nama1: One question? Why do you always defend “coloured” players, but never “white” players? If I’m wrong and I missed you defending them, I apologise.
14 Dec 2009, 19:03 pm
good grief again with the colour story, I swear you never learn
14 Dec 2009, 19:06 pm
@Johan Fourie: you’re right JF “quota” is so last year but when you have mark keohane writing articles saying that the selection of raubenheimer, maku & chiliboy should bring shame to all black people in this country, you are a unique species. Should meisiekind or jaco vd westhuizen’s selection brought shame to all white people is this country?
14 Dec 2009, 19:08 pm
@SpringbokSarah: Sorry about that. New here. Just noticed a few things. Seems to me there are certain lines drwan on this blog. Not here to talk politics, just rugby. Just wish the players could cover their bodies in clothing so that no one can see whether they are white, black or coloured. Wear AFL helmets? LOL!
14 Dec 2009, 19:09 pm
@Slappes: Who’s Gunther?
14 Dec 2009, 19:11 pm
@Johan Fourie:
You are wrong and your apology is accepted.
When a person like Hondo spread his poison about certain players (coincidently mostly players of colour) somebody has to challenge him, that’s all.
14 Dec 2009, 19:12 pm
@Johan Fourie: watch Invictus. Be colorblind.
(which is 1 of the songs in Invictus)
14 Dec 2009, 19:12 pm
@Pearl Rose: No. The players didn’t pick themselves. Players should be selected on merit, and merit only. And I always thought Keo was an advocate for change? I just dont think that 2 wrongs make a right. It becomes a visious circle.
14 Dec 2009, 19:13 pm
@SpringbokSarah:
your local Mcdonalds night manager…
14 Dec 2009, 19:14 pm
@nama1: True, but then you do the same. So maybe he feels the same about you? Can you see my point?
Thanks for accepting my apology!
14 Dec 2009, 19:15 pm
@SpringbokSarah: Will do! Did you see it? Do you think it is a fair description of actual events?
14 Dec 2009, 19:20 pm
@gunther: oh helloooooooooooo oops my bad… btw there are 2 McDonalds near me…
@Johan Fourie: I did! I lOVED it! So I went again yesterday… wouldn’t know about accuracy… I was like 2… not even, I was a month away from 2
14 Dec 2009, 19:25 pm
@SpringbokSarah: Oh ok! Will go see it. In the past I’ve always been disappointed with “sport movies”. Never looks real, especially if you know the sport and have seen the real thing. But lets see!
14 Dec 2009, 19:29 pm
@SpringbokSarah: I watched the 95 Final at the Fountains in Pretoria with suppliers for the company I worked for. The power went of just before the start of extra time, so we all ran out to our cars to listen on the radio. It came back on just before Stransky’s drop. The trip home to Randburg was unbelievable! Fortunatly I taped the game.
14 Dec 2009, 19:33 pm
@Johan Fourie: #72
When have you seen me do the same as him?
You say that you are new here. Maybe you should wait a little longer before making statements like that. I guarantee you, you can’t for a minute compare me with Hondo.
14 Dec 2009, 19:35 pm
@Johan Fourie: I suppose so… but there’s a lot of heart tugging moments. It’s a feel good film… and believe it or not I was so bloody nervous when they were playing the final… even though I knew what was gonna happen
14 Dec 2009, 19:38 pm
@nama1: Sometimes it is easier for someone on the outside to notice things. By “challenging” him you do the same. Instead of argueing a players performance/ability/value, you attack other players. It is for that reason that I compare you to anyone from the “other side”.
14 Dec 2009, 19:38 pm
@SpringbokSarah: LOL! Sounds good!
14 Dec 2009, 19:41 pm
@Johan Fourie: it really is good… my sister who knows nothing about rugby (apart from the fact the guys are big) even liked it
14 Dec 2009, 19:46 pm
@SpringbokSarah: Sarah, Do they get the South African accents right?
Most of those American movies they make of SA never get our accent right. I just cringe when they try to speak with our accent.
Blood Diamond our friends that live in the States said the SA accents were perfect in that and actually it was not. LdC only got it sometimes.
Anyhow still going to see the movie on Wednesday. Believe the rugby scenes are not realistic. But will just take it as it comes.
14 Dec 2009, 19:47 pm
@Puma: 82 – Think the SA that have lived in the States for a long time have forgotten what our accent sounds like.
14 Dec 2009, 19:49 pm
@Puma: Untill we watch a video of Casper de Vries!
14 Dec 2009, 19:51 pm
@Puma: THEY DID! I was really happy with the accents… Morgan’s Afrikaans is lacking… but Mr Mandela’s accent is even harder so we can forgive him for that. It was nothing like Leo’s which was insulting.
14 Dec 2009, 19:53 pm
@Puma: he he… too bad really… American accents work on my nerves
14 Dec 2009, 19:54 pm
i am also going to see it wednesday
14 Dec 2009, 19:55 pm
bloody off season kills me….
14 Dec 2009, 19:55 pm
@Johan Fourie: Yip..hehe.
Going to see Invictus on Wednesday. Just hear that the rugby scenes are not realistic. So that will be kinda off putting a bit. Heard that all the players look so short even the forwards…….
Why did Eastwood not select some rugby players here to play in that movie? Would have been more realistic the rugby part. Then not sure how much the rugby part plays. Think it is more about Nelson Mandela.
Freeman looks so much like him so hope he plays the part well.
14 Dec 2009, 19:57 pm
@grant10: Me too and that is my birthday. Getting old now Grant……hehehe. Years flying by like crazy.
14 Dec 2009, 19:58 pm
@Puma: You are right. It looks a bit silly on the podium with Madiba being taller than Francois. Sean Fitzpatrick should have played in the movie, he is a GREAT actor! LOL!
14 Dec 2009, 20:00 pm
@grant10: what do you mean off season? Stormers have been training… they only get a break from Friday
@Puma: don’t think about relating it to size, but rather about to what was going on in S.A, the emotions that were in the air, how horrible the Springboks were, and how they were able to defy the odds and become the world champions.
AND THAT’S WHY WE ALL NEED TO SUPPORT BAFANA
14 Dec 2009, 20:00 pm
@SpringbokSarah: Okay so the accents then are a bit better than Leo’s. Then it will be a bit better.
Still just want to see it for what it is really about that era.
Loved that world cup. Was awesome. Only just came back to this country, been back about 6 months so I was emotional about the whole thing. Actually brings back some beautiful memories. I watched it with my brother that passed away in 2003. Sort of will always remember him too that day. So it sure will bring back some awesome memories.
14 Dec 2009, 20:03 pm
@Johan Fourie: Fitzie……hehe. You are 100% correct there. What a player though. Got under our skin but he was one of NZ great captains.
Will always remember that jumbo going over the stadium. Damn that was awesome.
14 Dec 2009, 20:04 pm
@Puma: aawwwwee… now don’t be like me and go and cry now… second thought, take tissues with just in case
14 Dec 2009, 20:06 pm
@SpringbokSarah: Sarah, You see that is nonsense. Boks were not that horrible at the time. That I think is where Eastwood got it a bit wrong. We were not the favourites but were never a bad team as I have read they make us out to be and only winning on emotion. We won it fair and square. Our defence was outstanding that day. We matched the ABs the whole way. We were probably the first team they played that was up to them. The other teams they just knocked over easy until they got to play us.
14 Dec 2009, 20:07 pm
@Puma: Ja, what a day that was! Actually, what a month that was! From the opening game against Australia, to Dalton’s and Hendrik’s bans, that almost French try in the semi, the hype about Lomu, Jouba’s oxygen tank episode…. And then the climax in the final!
14 Dec 2009, 20:07 pm
@SpringbokSarah: I will have to Sarah, Have picked up a headcold from the damn aircon. So the eyes are streaming already
14 Dec 2009, 20:09 pm
@Johan Fourie: Johan, It was a fabulous time. I loved every minute of it. Watched the opening game while on holiday in the Berg. Remember we all watched in a big hall……hahaha. No tv’s in the bedrooms that time….hehe. But it was great watching as they had a huge fire going, winter had started and the Berg gets really cold that time of year.
Loved the whole vibe around the country. Was awesome.
14 Dec 2009, 20:12 pm
@SpringbokSarah: Sarah, We will all support Bafana. I know I will but really don’t see them making it past the first round. Football is played by so many countries and so many coming here are way better than us. We just have to enjoy the moment while our team is still in. If they make the 2nd round for me that will be enough to make me proud of them.
14 Dec 2009, 20:12 pm
@Puma: Agree! We were a well drilled unit. Perhaps we didnt have many world stars in our team, but as a unit they were good. They knew exactly how to beat Australia and New Zealand. Actually, before the WC I spoke to Japie Mulder and Hennie le Roux and they both saw England as the major threat. Reason for that they said was Englands physicall forward pack and Rob Andrew, Carling, Guscott, and Underwood. If you look back at that semi against NZ, Lomu won the game for NZ. Without Lomu, England might have won that game.
14 Dec 2009, 20:12 pm
@Puma: about a year before each world cup the jokes come out… what’s the difference between the Bokke and a Samoosa? What’s the difference between Monty and Cinderella?… and remember the movie is based on the book “playing the enemy” which has actually been retitled to Invictus
@Puma: you sure it’s the aircon? you can tell me
14 Dec 2009, 20:16 pm
@Puma: not we all… I’m the only 1 in Durbanville supporting them!… sad really. They’re making this giant jersey thing which is gonna be filled with the fans messages… went with some of the Stormers to go and sign it… was fun
14 Dec 2009, 20:17 pm
@SpringbokSarah: Answer please?
14 Dec 2009, 20:21 pm
@Johan Fourie: what was the question?
14 Dec 2009, 20:23 pm
@Johan Fourie: 101 – Johan, Exactly we were not a bad team and actaully was up for that tourney. Especially after beating Oz in the opening game.
Yip, Will always remember Lomou running over Cat..LOL. We worked him out though. Although have read that James Small said when he saw Lomu next to him walking out the tunnel his heart almost froze……..hahaha. Thinking he was a giant. He never ever crossed our line ever the great Lomu
14 Dec 2009, 20:24 pm
106 -@Puma:sorry typos there. meant Lomu and actually.
14 Dec 2009, 20:25 pm
@SpringbokSarah: Those 2 jokes you talked about?
14 Dec 2009, 20:26 pm
@SpringbokSarah: 102 – Have read that book Sarah, So hope it is as good.
Yip, this cold is from the aircon. Always get it when I have the aircon on full blast. So pleased it is a cold day here today and could turn it off.
14 Dec 2009, 20:27 pm
@SpringbokSarah: 103 – Well that is sad then Sarah, I think a lot will support them once the tourney starts. Such a big tourney and the vibe will be awesome.
14 Dec 2009, 20:29 pm
@Puma: And all that fear was for nothing! Lomu never crossed the Bok line in something like 12 tests?
14 Dec 2009, 20:30 pm
@Johan Fourie: oh!
The difference between the Boks and a samoosa is a samoosa has 3 points, boks have none
the difference between Cinderella and Monty is at least Cinderella got to the ball
@Puma: lol then why would you put it on full blast?
@Puma: it really is… need to buy me a Bafana top! Even though I really don’t dig soccer, they’re still my country
14 Dec 2009, 20:31 pm
@SpringbokSarah: OOOOOH! Little funny! LOL!
14 Dec 2009, 20:37 pm
@Johan Fourie: don’t laugh, that’s my most capped Bok of all time, shame poor Monty
14 Dec 2009, 20:43 pm
@SpringbokSarah: Monty is great!
14 Dec 2009, 21:09 pm
has collins being smoking some shite with the gunja man who sang our anthem
14 Dec 2009, 21:17 pm
The World is ending in 2012
14 Dec 2009, 21:20 pm
@Karma-zaf: so say the ancient south americans and nostrodamus – an amazing coincidence that
14 Dec 2009, 21:26 pm
@Karma-zaf: but that’s after 2011 so what you worried about
14 Dec 2009, 21:30 pm
@Karma-zaf: Will you please give me everything you own, seeing that the world will end. I can pick it up on Dec 31, 2011. I’ll let you have enough to live from till 31 Dec 2012.
14 Dec 2009, 21:39 pm
@Karma-zaf: Like it did in 2000 and before that.
Wonder what is the next significant date after 2012??
14 Dec 2009, 21:47 pm
@Karoolander: no seriously man there’s even a film about it, the film is called ’2012′.
14 Dec 2009, 21:51 pm
@byoboy: i’m being sarcastic there
14 Dec 2009, 22:27 pm
Think Jerry just being kind he knows Jan is a little fat hobbit who should play hooker lol. I miss the Collins and Burger clashes, two of the hardest men in rugby.
@byoboy: seen the movie some out of it ****, as long as we win the world cup, 2012 wont bother me to much hahaha.
14 Dec 2009, 22:48 pm
@Johan Fourie: @nama1:
Just been back from the EOYP,,, 60 people to attend to
Well, WO is NOT a No.12 start right there
He is a No.13 who plays at 12, hence why he almost always disappointing.
He has some attitude issue too, he needs to cut his hair to ditch that adonis look, he plays rugby and we had one Percy already.
One department WO is better than JF is his speed off the mark.
Trouble with the Boks is that JdV at 12 is a selfish, self centered person, seldom pass the ball on time, so he made the rest look bad.
The only true No. 12 in SA is Bosman Meyers after we lost Brad Barritt, too bad he is not a fixture, Watermayer and P Grant can surely step in with some adjustment.
Unfortunataly it will be someonelse there
15 Dec 2009, 06:57 am
Hahahaha
I know Hougaard has talent but I still think he is overrated.
He played most of his rugby on the wing and yet he still played scrumhalf on tour.
Those defending him are so predictable. When a black player is picked based on talent he is a quota and needs to first play S14 rugby, blah blah blah.
And yet guys like Meyer Bosman, Hougaard, even Schalk Burger were selected for the Boks before they played S14 rugby but hey, as long as they are not black its fine!!!
15 Dec 2009, 07:20 am
@wpw:
Yawn…….. soooo predictable, yawn………
15 Dec 2009, 08:08 am
@whatever:
Very intelligent response as always.
15 Dec 2009, 08:24 am
@nama1: yeah Hondo especially peeves me off with the hatred he spews
sometimes u just want to have rugby conversations but okes like him always STUFF IT UP
15 Dec 2009, 08:40 am
WPW … how the fukc can you compare Schalk with a quota? You have a serious chip on you shoulder. Obviously you are coloured and obviously you prefer coloured players to white players. Which is fine. But at least talk sense. You always post racist k@k but if a white guy prefers Hougaard above Ricky then he is a member of the KKK. Don’t you maybe think its more because Hougaard is a Blue Bull and most bloggers here are blue bull supporters? I’m sure all province supporters (black or white) preferes Ricky. Leave race out of it man …are you also one of those arsehole’s that shouts for the AB @ Newlands?
BTW Ricky was k@k all year .. Hougaard wasn’t better …i’d like to see Jano Vermaak there.
15 Dec 2009, 09:00 am
@Bokke:
Oh my Gawd!! When did I compare Schalk with a quota?? Let me guess, you support the Bulls right?? You drink brandy and coke right??
Bloody idiot!!
15 Dec 2009, 09:04 am
No puz I’m a province supporter ….
And yet guys like Meyer Bosman, Hougaard, even Schalk Burger were selected for the Boks before they played S14 rugby but hey, as long as they are not black its fine!!!
That is what you meant d00s ….
I gave give you 30+ black players who didn’t even make their CC side cause they are so k@k … but if they choose Bosman or Hougaard then you shout rape.
Go k@k on PDV’s head …he choose Hougaard before ricky, not us white ppl
15 Dec 2009, 09:56 am
@Bokke:
And once again you go assuming things. I did not say Ricki should have toured ahead of Hougaard you prick.
I too can name a list of black players who toured based on potential and at the time there was a HUGE outcry… only for these ‘quota players’ to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that they are good enough!!!
15 Dec 2009, 10:40 am
leave all the race baiting man
some people just dont get it and lets try and have rugby discussions
does any1 else feel we need to apply more tactical substitutions than timing subsitutions? eg. having (in form) ricky, and Pienaar on bench for FdP and MS?
15 Dec 2009, 11:33 am
@wpw:
Hougaard plays wing although he is a scrumhalf, your verdict is based on the party line of the ‘former’ underprivileged
Hougaard is a rare all around talant like Ruan Pienaar, can play anywhere, a ‘complete footballer’ as Dr Craven said
what that has to do with quota?, quota is Hinie Adams who was on all the games the Bulls lost in the Super14 and the CC competition in 2009
You want to be refarded, cut out the race agenda!
15 Dec 2009, 11:37 am
@wpw:
Please name one (1)!
Yes, a one nonwhite player to tour with the Boks in Nov 09 that has a better potential than at least 3 white players who were left behind!
Please enlightened us
15 Dec 2009, 11:39 am
Sorry for the spells, I punch it on my personal laptop while trying to get the job done in the last week of the year
Merry Xmas and a Happy new year to all!
15 Dec 2009, 12:27 pm
@Bokke: you are a seriously sick individual that’s got some serious issues with coloured/black people. you remind me of barend strydom ,that cold blooded killer and leader of the wit-wolwe who could not not stop the comrades from taking over.your other beloved leader et and an awb brigade also got fukked in the bophuthatswana!that defeat still rates as the biggest humiliation for afrikaaner right-wing military aspirations and to have seen big pot-bellied afrikaaner men running out of the bophuthatswana was quite funny indeed!do you also wear torn green underpants like et?joost also had one with a hole in!now that’s the problem with your afrikaaner boys ,you’re personal hygiene standards leaves a lot to be desired!give up your racist rhetoric man and embrace democracy mate because you never gonna win the war!
15 Dec 2009, 12:38 pm
@Hondo:
Did I mention this particular tour??
15 Dec 2009, 12:40 pm
@Hondo:
What does ‘refarded’ mean??
15 Dec 2009, 15:06 pm
@Puma: Having watched the trailer, Morgan Freeman’s accent is pretty poor, especially for a method actor. He says Francois with an american twang. Really poor if you ask me. Tired of american directors and their half-hearted slapdash ‘interpretation’ of SA. Eastwood should’ve had dignity to draft in a South African director or producer at the very least. Wouldn’t be surprised if it isn’t a rugby version of Mean Machine, especially as they talk about SA beingthe underdogs when in actual fact the Boks really were outside favourites with the ABs as the front runners. Just another paycheck for Matt Damon. Did you hear him get pranked by Whackhead? That was classic.
15 Dec 2009, 15:13 pm
@Valkyrie: Hey! Cool your anti-afrikaaner sentiments! How can you call him a racist when you’re doing exactly the same thing yourself? I don’t tolerate racism and prejudice of any form that includes anti-white kak like this!
15 Dec 2009, 15:13 pm
@Crouching Tiger Hidden Bokke: what kind of exposure do you think the movie would have received with local actors? zero mate, so wise and smell the coffee, they are drinking blue mountain, not nescafe
15 Dec 2009, 15:46 pm
@BuckT: 143 – Eastwood could have used local rugby players. Would have made the rugby scenes far better. The big actors agree they needed them to sell the movie. Heard the forwards are as short the FH in the movie? Rugby lovers around the world will know that is stupid. We have plenty rugby players here that could have filled in for those scenes. Eastwood would still have sold the movie with M. Daman and Freeman in it.
15 Dec 2009, 15:56 pm
@Crouching Tiger Hidden Bokke: Yip, They never get our accent right making a movie about something in SA. I kinda cringe when I hear some of the accents over the years in movies that are supposed to be South African.
We were never a horrible team at the time either. How he could have had that in the movie and we only won on emotion was nonsense.
Rugby players like, Ruben Kruger, Joost, Mark Andrews, J. Mulder, H. Le Roux, A. Joubert, Kobus and a few others were actually very good rugby players. Pienaar too was a very good captain. At the time Joost was the best scrummie and Ruben to this day I think was our best Blindside we ever had. Mark Andrews then was the best in his position. A. Joubert for me was the best FB in world rugby then and probably still our best ever. So how they could have written in the script we were underdogs and a horrible team was just not true. All Blacks only really faced a good team once they faced us in that final. That final could have gone anyway it was that tight.
I suppose it sells movies that kinda thing. The underdogs win on emotion but that is it. That for me is not true about the 1995 team. We were not the favourites but never the underdogs.
Going to see the movie tomorrow and will see what it is like.
15 Dec 2009, 19:32 pm
Valkyrie all your posts are racist you d00s … btw, my race doesn’t have the reputation of having a bad smell, you and i both know what race does. The most likely reason being that blind ppl could also hate you. Now fukc off with your racist comments….you’ll come second. Are you really that naar that a white guy took your chick & work? SAP wannabe
17 Dec 2009, 08:58 am
@Johan Fourie: Without Lomu England might have won that game. What match were you watching? The ABs were all over England that day. They were the best team at the RWC , they just struck the Mandela factor on the day.
That same team went onto beat SA in a home series the next year and went onto dominate world rugby all without Lomu playing because of his kidney issues.
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