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		<title>By: Stormer23</title>
		<link>http://www.keo.co.za/2010/01/25/bulls-best-for-lions-clash/#comment-1500999</link>
		<dc:creator>Stormer23</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 13:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see we have 67 people in the league. Going very well.

Come on guys! Go onto Supersport - Home page - Dream League - set up a team - go to league tab - and the join league - enter the league code: 154 729 776 923 68 (no spaces)

Lets see who the real rugby brains are</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see we have 67 people in the league. Going very well.</p>
<p>Come on guys! Go onto Supersport &#8211; Home page &#8211; Dream League &#8211; set up a team &#8211; go to league tab &#8211; and the join league &#8211; enter the league code: 154 729 776 923 68 (no spaces)</p>
<p>Lets see who the real rugby brains are</p>
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		<title>By: Ratel Brussow (MSIUR)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ratel Brussow (MSIUR)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 13:54:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bulls rumblings are very worrying (for a Shark supporter). They seem to be doing all the right things and seem VERY focused. The only weaknesses they have is no prop depth and pretty unspectacular outside backs. Kirchner is the only man there with some spark. To replace him with solid, boring wacko would be a mistake as 8 and 9 would then be your only game breakers. I expect Morne to play a kicking game, again people will call him 1 dimensional, when actually his running and distribution should be a strength.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bulls rumblings are very worrying (for a Shark supporter). They seem to be doing all the right things and seem VERY focused. The only weaknesses they have is no prop depth and pretty unspectacular outside backs. Kirchner is the only man there with some spark. To replace him with solid, boring wacko would be a mistake as 8 and 9 would then be your only game breakers. I expect Morne to play a kicking game, again people will call him 1 dimensional, when actually his running and distribution should be a strength.</p>
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		<title>By: gunther</title>
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		<dc:creator>gunther</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 11:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1500118&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;katman&lt;/a&gt;: 

a pyramid scheme....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1500118" rel="nofollow">katman</a>: </p>
<p>a pyramid scheme&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Brigadier Van Zyl</title>
		<link>http://www.keo.co.za/2010/01/25/bulls-best-for-lions-clash/#comment-1500127</link>
		<dc:creator>Brigadier Van Zyl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 10:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1500123&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Taahirah&lt;/a&gt;: 

I think it is a little early to say that Van Heerver has no heart as he is very young, but he definately needs to harden up sharpish. But the Bulls coaching do &quot;aggression&quot; very well...so he&#039;ll probably play like a teenager possessed this season.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1500123" rel="nofollow">Taahirah</a>: </p>
<p>I think it is a little early to say that Van Heerver has no heart as he is very young, but he definately needs to harden up sharpish. But the Bulls coaching do &#8220;aggression&#8221; very well&#8230;so he&#8217;ll probably play like a teenager possessed this season.</p>
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		<title>By: Taahirah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Taahirah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 10:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1500078&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Brigadier Van Zyl&lt;/a&gt;: Agree with you Brigadier. Akona has to be first-choice for the right wing position. If Tac&#039;s argument about Jaco&#039;s 2007 form is to be upheld he needs to aply that consistently. Akona is a lethal finisher and fits brilliantly into the Bulls game plan. Van den Heever&#039;s nickname is shadow coz that&#039;s what he resembles on defence. I clutch my heart every time someone runs at him. Will not ever forget the disdainful manner in which Mapoe manhandled him en route to the tryline in the pool match last year. He has pace but no heart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1500078" rel="nofollow">Brigadier Van Zyl</a>: Agree with you Brigadier. Akona has to be first-choice for the right wing position. If Tac&#8217;s argument about Jaco&#8217;s 2007 form is to be upheld he needs to aply that consistently. Akona is a lethal finisher and fits brilliantly into the Bulls game plan. Van den Heever&#8217;s nickname is shadow coz that&#8217;s what he resembles on defence. I clutch my heart every time someone runs at him. Will not ever forget the disdainful manner in which Mapoe manhandled him en route to the tryline in the pool match last year. He has pace but no heart.</p>
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		<title>By: Brigadier Van Zyl</title>
		<link>http://www.keo.co.za/2010/01/25/bulls-best-for-lions-clash/#comment-1500122</link>
		<dc:creator>Brigadier Van Zyl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 10:42:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>very long term invetment that one...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>very long term invetment that one&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: katman</title>
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		<dc:creator>katman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 10:39:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1500115&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Brigadier Van Zyl&lt;/a&gt;: Nope, it’s an investment. And when it finally pays out, I’ll be able to retire (emotionally speaking, of course).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1500115" rel="nofollow">Brigadier Van Zyl</a>: Nope, it’s an investment. And when it finally pays out, I’ll be able to retire (emotionally speaking, of course).</p>
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		<title>By: Brigadier Van Zyl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brigadier Van Zyl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 10:35:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1500112&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;katman&lt;/a&gt;: 

...how come you supporting the Lions then?

Big,big,huge,massive mistake?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1500112" rel="nofollow">katman</a>: </p>
<p>&#8230;how come you supporting the Lions then?</p>
<p>Big,big,huge,massive mistake?</p>
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		<title>By: Brigadier Van Zyl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brigadier Van Zyl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 10:34:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m also quite keen to see some more of that lock Flip van Mervwe. Got injured during the CC but looked potentially the part if he get&#039;s some game time.

and hopefully that Bees Roux adds something to our frontrow as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m also quite keen to see some more of that lock Flip van Mervwe. Got injured during the CC but looked potentially the part if he get&#8217;s some game time.</p>
<p>and hopefully that Bees Roux adds something to our frontrow as well.</p>
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		<title>By: katman</title>
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		<dc:creator>katman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 10:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1500104&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Tacitus&lt;/a&gt;: Wrong. No sentence ever starts “katman, you mistake…” I never mistake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1500104" rel="nofollow">Tacitus</a>: Wrong. No sentence ever starts “katman, you mistake…” I never mistake.</p>
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		<title>By: Tacitus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tacitus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 10:27:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1500103&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Brigadier Van Zyl&lt;/a&gt;: 

I hope Kirchner settles down. But I expect a spear tackle red card or a ball skewing off his boot into the stands next to him every time he gets involved in the action.

Once he sorts out his consistency issues, I will feel more comfortable with him. You do know that the Bulls only bought him after the Sharks outbid them for Odwa Ndungane&#039;s services, right?

When Roets left, the Bulls first plan was to replace him with Odwa at fullback. When that didn&#039;t work out, they got Kirchner.

The guy must just take a chill pill before each game. When he is settled down, he is a good player. But when he gets excited, warning lights start to flash on my TV screen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1500103" rel="nofollow">Brigadier Van Zyl</a>: </p>
<p>I hope Kirchner settles down. But I expect a spear tackle red card or a ball skewing off his boot into the stands next to him every time he gets involved in the action.</p>
<p>Once he sorts out his consistency issues, I will feel more comfortable with him. You do know that the Bulls only bought him after the Sharks outbid them for Odwa Ndungane&#8217;s services, right?</p>
<p>When Roets left, the Bulls first plan was to replace him with Odwa at fullback. When that didn&#8217;t work out, they got Kirchner.</p>
<p>The guy must just take a chill pill before each game. When he is settled down, he is a good player. But when he gets excited, warning lights start to flash on my TV screen.</p>
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		<title>By: Tacitus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tacitus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 10:23:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1500099&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;katman&lt;/a&gt;: 

And you mistake Jaco&#039;s performance at flyhalf for the Boks with his performance at fullback for the Bulls.

Like Frans Steyn, he is no flyhalf. But he is a very good fullback. Look at the Bulls 2007 season again. If he brings that same level of performance to the table, he is a better option than Kirchner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1500099" rel="nofollow">katman</a>: </p>
<p>And you mistake Jaco&#8217;s performance at flyhalf for the Boks with his performance at fullback for the Bulls.</p>
<p>Like Frans Steyn, he is no flyhalf. But he is a very good fullback. Look at the Bulls 2007 season again. If he brings that same level of performance to the table, he is a better option than Kirchner.</p>
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		<title>By: Brigadier Van Zyl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brigadier Van Zyl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 10:22:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1500099&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;katman&lt;/a&gt;: 

Wacko Jaco was man of the match in the final 10 minutes of the 2007 S14 final.

a legend in his own life time. did you EVER climb rugby posts that fast.

truely jaco of nazereth</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1500099" rel="nofollow">katman</a>: </p>
<p>Wacko Jaco was man of the match in the final 10 minutes of the 2007 S14 final.</p>
<p>a legend in his own life time. did you EVER climb rugby posts that fast.</p>
<p>truely jaco of nazereth</p>
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		<title>By: Brigadier Van Zyl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brigadier Van Zyl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 10:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roets definately should have earned a bok call up at some or other stage.

But I&#039;d take Kirchener over either of the 2(Jaco who has had some monumental Clown moments). He&#039;s as brave as Roets ever was with great field position but much quicker and attack minded.  Kirchener was a model of consistency last season, first season he had a couple shockers addmitedly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roets definately should have earned a bok call up at some or other stage.</p>
<p>But I&#8217;d take Kirchener over either of the 2(Jaco who has had some monumental Clown moments). He&#8217;s as brave as Roets ever was with great field position but much quicker and attack minded.  Kirchener was a model of consistency last season, first season he had a couple shockers addmitedly.</p>
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		<title>By: katman</title>
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		<dc:creator>katman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 10:18:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1500091&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Tacitus&lt;/a&gt;: You&#039;re putting way too much faith in Jaco of Nazareth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1500091" rel="nofollow">Tacitus</a>: You&#8217;re putting way too much faith in Jaco of Nazareth.</p>
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		<title>By: Tacitus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tacitus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 10:10:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1500078&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Brigadier Van Zyl&lt;/a&gt;: 

A few comments:

We need some real pace on the wing. Akona is good, but he is a slowpoke, and Hougaard, good as he is, is a scrumhalf. So whichever of those two play on the one wing, we need van den Heever on the other.

As for Zane. He is a clown. A clown that has some good moments, but equally one that has some terrible moments in between.

He is not Bok material at the moment, and Jaco vd Westhuizen is indeed better than him. How Kirchner became a Bok when Roets couldn&#039;t is a mystery. But I like the idea of Jaco on the bench, if only for the versatility he gives us. Backup for 10, 11,14 and 15.

Anyway, that&#039;s the way it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1500078" rel="nofollow">Brigadier Van Zyl</a>: </p>
<p>A few comments:</p>
<p>We need some real pace on the wing. Akona is good, but he is a slowpoke, and Hougaard, good as he is, is a scrumhalf. So whichever of those two play on the one wing, we need van den Heever on the other.</p>
<p>As for Zane. He is a clown. A clown that has some good moments, but equally one that has some terrible moments in between.</p>
<p>He is not Bok material at the moment, and Jaco vd Westhuizen is indeed better than him. How Kirchner became a Bok when Roets couldn&#8217;t is a mystery. But I like the idea of Jaco on the bench, if only for the versatility he gives us. Backup for 10, 11,14 and 15.</p>
<p>Anyway, that&#8217;s the way it is.</p>
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		<title>By: Brigadier Van Zyl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brigadier Van Zyl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 10:06:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guthro Steenkamps scrumming has never been that great but to my mind there is no better prop in the country that attacks the ruck area with his sort of aggression and venom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guthro Steenkamps scrumming has never been that great but to my mind there is no better prop in the country that attacks the ruck area with his sort of aggression and venom.</p>
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		<title>By: Brigadier Van Zyl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brigadier Van Zyl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 09:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1500078&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Brigadier Van Zyl&lt;/a&gt;: 

I still think we should have broken the bank to try get that Mapoe bloke, he looks like a Bulls player through and through.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1500078" rel="nofollow">Brigadier Van Zyl</a>: </p>
<p>I still think we should have broken the bank to try get that Mapoe bloke, he looks like a Bulls player through and through.</p>
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		<title>By: Brigadier Van Zyl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brigadier Van Zyl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 09:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tactitus you are talking pish now.

Ndgane has been a brilliant performer for the Bulls.
Van den Heever may be quick with a step but he looks like a pussy so far. Quite frankly,I&#039;d rather have Tiger Mangweni who also performed brilliantly with his limited opportunities...and he is not a pussy. Zane Kirchiner is way better than Jaco, in fact, another season like last will see him claim the Bok 15 as his own. Him and Milianu are the finest attacking fullbacks in the world, except Zane is a real nasty fcker on defence as well.

Nonetheless, wacko Jaco is brilliant option coming off the bench, Hougaard will become a super player and that Diepenaar as well as Watermeyer will in all likelyhood also become stars.

My primary issues are around our front row that has gained a reputation for being a soft touch at set piece scrum time.This needs to sort itself out because Spies is completely negated so long as he is always on the backfoot.

truth be told...we&#039;re short of the X(habana) factor to my mind but there is still enough quality to retain the trophy so long as we can get our best 22 selected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tactitus you are talking pish now.</p>
<p>Ndgane has been a brilliant performer for the Bulls.<br />
Van den Heever may be quick with a step but he looks like a <acronym title="Keep it clean!">*****</acronym> so far. Quite frankly,I&#8217;d rather have Tiger Mangweni who also performed brilliantly with his limited opportunities&#8230;and he is not a <acronym title="Keep it clean!">*****</acronym>. Zane Kirchiner is way better than Jaco, in fact, another season like last will see him claim the Bok 15 as his own. Him and Milianu are the finest attacking fullbacks in the world, except Zane is a real nasty fcker on defence as well.</p>
<p>Nonetheless, wacko Jaco is brilliant option coming off the bench, Hougaard will become a super player and that Diepenaar as well as Watermeyer will in all likelyhood also become stars.</p>
<p>My primary issues are around our front row that has gained a reputation for being a soft touch at set piece scrum time.This needs to sort itself out because Spies is completely negated so long as he is always on the backfoot.</p>
<p>truth be told&#8230;we&#8217;re short of the X(habana) factor to my mind but there is still enough quality to retain the trophy so long as we can get our best 22 selected.</p>
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		<title>By: katman</title>
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		<dc:creator>katman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 09:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1500033&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;BESTER&lt;/a&gt;: Exactly. And they still doubt us. Can&#039;t convince some people, hey.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1500033" rel="nofollow">BESTER</a>: Exactly. And they still doubt us. Can&#8217;t convince some people, hey.</p>
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