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		<title>By: capeguy</title>
		<link>http://www.keo.co.za/2010/02/08/kissing-newlands-goodbye/#comment-1510956</link>
		<dc:creator>capeguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 16:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once again, the IRT stations and new Volvo buses will provide a high capacity shuttle between the new Civic IRT station under construction and the new Stadium IRT station under construction.

Why is this difficult to understand?

The Golden Arrow bus shuttle, a temporary measure was used, to test the route, with the final test event, testing the new buses, and stations.

The train line will not go all the way, it costs too much and the demand from the CBD to the stadium apart from match days does not support the cost.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once again, the IRT stations and new Volvo buses will provide a high capacity shuttle between the new Civic IRT station under construction and the new Stadium IRT station under construction.</p>
<p>Why is this difficult to understand?</p>
<p>The Golden Arrow bus shuttle, a temporary measure was used, to test the route, with the final test event, testing the new buses, and stations.</p>
<p>The train line will not go all the way, it costs too much and the demand from the CBD to the stadium apart from match days does not support the cost.</p>
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		<title>By: KevinRack</title>
		<link>http://www.keo.co.za/2010/02/08/kissing-newlands-goodbye/#comment-1510276</link>
		<dc:creator>KevinRack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 07:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All train lines lead to Cape Town not Green Point. Try walking form CT station to Green Point. 
How can an international stadium have no public transport! Yeah buses and taxis but it should be seamless, this is definetly retarded not having a train line. For gods sakes you could have built one, even a tram line.
Sooo stupid it seams some one with political clout wanted there and once agiain the punter is ignored.
No to transfering Newlands until the train line goes all the way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All train lines lead to Cape Town not Green Point. Try walking form CT station to Green Point.<br />
How can an international stadium have no public transport! Yeah buses and taxis but it should be seamless, this is definetly retarded not having a train line. For gods sakes you could have built one, even a tram line.<br />
Sooo stupid it seams some one with political clout wanted there and once agiain the punter is ignored.<br />
No to transfering Newlands until the train line goes all the way.</p>
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		<title>By: capeguy</title>
		<link>http://www.keo.co.za/2010/02/08/kissing-newlands-goodbye/#comment-1510091</link>
		<dc:creator>capeguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 22:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that are classic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that are classic.</p>
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		<title>By: katman</title>
		<link>http://www.keo.co.za/2010/02/08/kissing-newlands-goodbye/#comment-1510065</link>
		<dc:creator>katman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 19:06:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1510058&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Karoolander&lt;/a&gt;: &quot;Where is all the idiots&quot; indeed?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1510058" rel="nofollow">Karoolander</a>: &#8220;Where is all the idiots&#8221; indeed?</p>
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		<title>By: Karoolander</title>
		<link>http://www.keo.co.za/2010/02/08/kissing-newlands-goodbye/#comment-1510058</link>
		<dc:creator>Karoolander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 17:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where is all the idiots that was laughing at the supposed color change for the Bulls?

Now they are panicking, because they might lose their home.

Shame</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where is all the idiots that was laughing at the supposed color change for the Bulls?</p>
<p>Now they are panicking, because they might lose their home.</p>
<p>Shame</p>
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		<title>By: capeguy</title>
		<link>http://www.keo.co.za/2010/02/08/kissing-newlands-goodbye/#comment-1510050</link>
		<dc:creator>capeguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 16:38:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All train lines lead to Cape Town. So most areas in Cape Town have access to the stadium. A high capacity IRT shuttle system is under construction to move spectators from Cape Town station.

You simply cannot compare access.

e.g. from Athlone, you have to go via Cape Town station, and the same applies to many other routes and suburbs. The station is in the process of a R450 million makeover, with new glass IRT bus stations outside the stadium and at the Civic Centre.

Even without the stations complete and using GA buses instead, the shuttle system was described by many as painless and even flawless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All train lines lead to Cape Town. So most areas in Cape Town have access to the stadium. A high capacity IRT shuttle system is under construction to move spectators from Cape Town station.</p>
<p>You simply cannot compare access.</p>
<p>e.g. from Athlone, you have to go via Cape Town station, and the same applies to many other routes and suburbs. The station is in the process of a R450 million makeover, with new glass IRT bus stations outside the stadium and at the Civic Centre.</p>
<p>Even without the stations complete and using GA buses instead, the shuttle system was described by many as painless and even flawless.</p>
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		<title>By: SpringbokSarah</title>
		<link>http://www.keo.co.za/2010/02/08/kissing-newlands-goodbye/#comment-1510020</link>
		<dc:creator>SpringbokSarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 14:45:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>here&#039;s a thought... give Newlands a make over... 

if you think there is so many problems with the stadium and it is so out of date (fail to see how, grass is grass), just vamp it up. Move to green point in the mean time while Newlands is getting a make over and move back once it has been completed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>here&#8217;s a thought&#8230; give Newlands a make over&#8230; </p>
<p>if you think there is so many problems with the stadium and it is so out of date (fail to see how, grass is grass), just vamp it up. Move to green point in the mean time while Newlands is getting a make over and move back once it has been completed.</p>
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		<title>By: KevinRack</title>
		<link>http://www.keo.co.za/2010/02/08/kissing-newlands-goodbye/#comment-1509294</link>
		<dc:creator>KevinRack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 02:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there relaible public transprt to the venue? All of us that train it in from all over and converge on Newlands stadium dont have the advantge of cars. Is there a train station at the venue. No, so therefore all the other arguments dont count in my opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there relaible public transprt to the venue? All of us that train it in from all over and converge on Newlands stadium dont have the advantge of cars. Is there a train station at the venue. No, so therefore all the other arguments dont count in my opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: capeguy</title>
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		<dc:creator>capeguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 22:17:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can assure you, every single seat at Cape Town stadium has better views than Newlands. It was designed so that each seat is within 190 metres, with excellent sightlines for the human eye.

International teams, football and rugby would die for this stadium.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can assure you, every single seat at Cape Town stadium has better views than Newlands. It was designed so that each seat is within 190 metres, with excellent sightlines for the human eye.</p>
<p>International teams, football and rugby would die for this stadium.</p>
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		<title>By: Die Dier</title>
		<link>http://www.keo.co.za/2010/02/08/kissing-newlands-goodbye/#comment-1509274</link>
		<dc:creator>Die Dier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 22:11:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I havent read all the entries , hence just commenting on the article: Both stadias have their own pro&#039;s and cons.I think for the time being one or two currie cup and maybe a test could be played there and see how it goes.With regards to the atmosphere etc etc in the new stadium: What if our teams play kak and the stadiums cant gather 15k plus? Less income will be made.The result: the &quot;brand new&quot; stadium falling apart like everything else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I havent read all the entries , hence just commenting on the article: Both stadias have their own pro&#8217;s and cons.I think for the time being one or two currie cup and maybe a test could be played there and see how it goes.With regards to the atmosphere etc etc in the new stadium: What if our teams play kak and the stadiums cant gather 15k plus? Less income will be made.The result: the &#8220;brand new&#8221; stadium falling apart like everything else.</p>
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		<title>By: whatever</title>
		<link>http://www.keo.co.za/2010/02/08/kissing-newlands-goodbye/#comment-1509254</link>
		<dc:creator>whatever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 20:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1509246&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;blueboy&lt;/a&gt;: 

You for real?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1509246" rel="nofollow">blueboy</a>: </p>
<p>You for real?</p>
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		<title>By: whatever</title>
		<link>http://www.keo.co.za/2010/02/08/kissing-newlands-goodbye/#comment-1509253</link>
		<dc:creator>whatever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 20:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1509237&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;TASSIES&lt;/a&gt;: 

Nothing like a &quot;carpark&quot; shout when playing on the field closest to the old zoo........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1509237" rel="nofollow">TASSIES</a>: </p>
<p>Nothing like a &#8220;carpark&#8221; shout when playing on the field closest to the old zoo&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Brigadier Van Zyl</title>
		<link>http://www.keo.co.za/2010/02/08/kissing-newlands-goodbye/#comment-1509250</link>
		<dc:creator>Brigadier Van Zyl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 20:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1509234&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;TASSIES&lt;/a&gt;: 

I still remember when everyone used to hang out in the car park of the old Newland&#039;s Sun before hitting their sportsbar witha boerewors roll.

...that was way back when the Pig and Whistle used to rock...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1509234" rel="nofollow">TASSIES</a>: </p>
<p>I still remember when everyone used to hang out in the car park of the old Newland&#8217;s Sun before hitting their sportsbar witha boerewors roll.</p>
<p>&#8230;that was way back when the Pig and Whistle used to rock&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: blueboy</title>
		<link>http://www.keo.co.za/2010/02/08/kissing-newlands-goodbye/#comment-1509246</link>
		<dc:creator>blueboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 20:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who gives a toss where the 2nd raters move to they could move to robben island or even better into the ocean who would miss them instead of the stormers they could call themselves the floaters as they are better at floating than storming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who gives a toss where the 2nd raters move to they could move to robben island or even better into the ocean who would miss them instead of the stormers they could call themselves the floaters as they are better at floating than storming.</p>
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		<title>By: katman</title>
		<link>http://www.keo.co.za/2010/02/08/kissing-newlands-goodbye/#comment-1509242</link>
		<dc:creator>katman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 20:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It really is a no-brainer. The new stadium is miles ahead. And the money made by selling off Newlands for residential and commercial development can pay off all debt, including the money they owe the GLRU for Jaque Fourie.

I think the traditionalists who don&#039;t want to budge have heard horror stories about the whores and drugs and queers of Green Point and are afraid it might rub off on them over the course of an 80 minute game of rugby.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It really is a no-brainer. The new stadium is miles ahead. And the money made by selling off Newlands for residential and commercial development can pay off all debt, including the money they owe the GLRU for Jaque Fourie.</p>
<p>I think the traditionalists who don&#8217;t want to budge have heard horror stories about the whores and drugs and <acronym title="Keep it clean!">******</acronym> of Green Point and are afraid it might rub off on them over the course of an 80 minute game of rugby.</p>
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		<title>By: whatever</title>
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		<dc:creator>whatever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 20:23:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mmmmmmm, this would be very sad indeed. Spent many Saturdays in the terraces below the main stand. And the anouncer has been around for ever........but, if it&#039;s time to go then so be it. As long as the Stormers don&#039;t treat it as an away game :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mmmmmmm, this would be very sad indeed. Spent many Saturdays in the terraces below the main stand. And the anouncer has been around for ever&#8230;&#8230;..but, if it&#8217;s time to go then so be it. As long as the Stormers don&#8217;t treat it as an away game <img src='http://www.keo.co.za/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: stormedwolf</title>
		<link>http://www.keo.co.za/2010/02/08/kissing-newlands-goodbye/#comment-1509239</link>
		<dc:creator>stormedwolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 20:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TASSIES: from experiance i beg to differ but I wont lie I have enjoyed many a fines evening in the changin rooms and it is good messy fun... A U a U a UCT</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TASSIES: from experiance i beg to differ but I wont lie I have enjoyed many a fines evening in the changin rooms and it is good messy fun&#8230; A U a U a UCT</p>
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		<title>By: TASSIES</title>
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		<dc:creator>TASSIES</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 20:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1509232&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;stormedwolf&lt;/a&gt;: bad idea. Nothing like playing beneath Jammie Steps, in a howling north wester.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1509232" rel="nofollow">stormedwolf</a>: bad idea. Nothing like playing beneath Jammie Steps, in a howling north wester.</p>
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		<title>By: TASSIES</title>
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		<dc:creator>TASSIES</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 20:15:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1509229&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Brigadier Van Zyl&lt;/a&gt;: well it does have Forries Brig. Unique I&#039;d say. Maybe they should just keep Newlands for that asset alone. Personally drank many girls pretty there. Great talent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1509229" rel="nofollow">Brigadier Van Zyl</a>: well it does have Forries Brig. Unique I&#8217;d say. Maybe they should just keep Newlands for that asset alone. Personally drank many girls pretty there. Great talent.</p>
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		<title>By: stormedwolf</title>
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		<dc:creator>stormedwolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 20:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry COLISEUM!!! 

but either way, I like the way it sounds of blood being spilt by schalk decapitaiting his prey...

O another idea would be to get UCT involved in Newlands... Really annoying watching such talented ikeys players having to play against a brick wall (wind) for 40 minutes every match and with small crowds!! could be a good idea considering American Universities host 40-80 000 students and basketball/american football... would only increase the professionalism, standards and tradition of club rugby!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry COLISEUM!!! </p>
<p>but either way, I like the way it sounds of blood being spilt by schalk decapitaiting his prey&#8230;</p>
<p>O another idea would be to get UCT involved in Newlands&#8230; Really annoying watching such talented ikeys players having to play against a brick wall (wind) for 40 minutes every match and with small crowds!! could be a good idea considering American Universities host 40-80 000 students and basketball/american football&#8230; would only increase the professionalism, standards and tradition of club rugby!!</p>
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