Hayman seeks farm sweetener
9 Feb 2010
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Hayman seeks farm sweetener
The three parties responsible for Carl Hayman’s impending return to New Zealand will help the tighthead acquire a dairy farm to sweeten the deal.
Taranaki, the Hurricanes and the New Zealand Rugy Union have all been in talks with Hayman, who’s contract with English club Newcastle expires this May. According to reports Down Under, the 30-year-old Hayman will return to play for Taranaki in the 2010 New Zealand Cup.
It’s also been reported that the three parties would facilitate buying a dairy farm in the Taranaki province. Taranaki chairman Peter Crawford, however, claims to have not heard about this part of the deal, and said there would be no deal if the three parties and Hayman couldn’t come to an agreement.
‘If that does come up [the farm issue] we will seriously look at it, but it hasn’t been discussed,’ he told the Taranaki Times. ‘If we can get it to that stage we will be giving everything to get it done.’
Hurricanes chief executive Greg Peters told Fairfax Media it was wrong for anyone to suggest that a farm would be given to Hayman as part of any deal.
‘It is not a payment to Carl Hayman. It’s Taranaki facilitating him getting into a farm. That means pointing him in the right direction and, potentially through other means, to help him on to a farm. It doesn’t mean Taranaki’s buying him a farm. It’s part of the total package.’
Peters added that Hayman’s return would be long-term, in other words, the All Blacks prop is likely to be signed for two years.
‘It’s a statement that he wants to be part of the New Zealand framework. He’s not, as we understand it, going to just waltz back in for the Tri-Nations. He will play the New Zealand Cup and then be available for the end-of-year tour.’
This thread will be updated throughout the day.
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9 Feb 2010, 15:33 pm
@grant10:
The Sharks will have the PDV’s first choice front row… now why have I never heard you take him to task for that?
Nor for the fact he won’t allow over seas players in the 22?
You’re piss weak pal (with all due respect).
Dawn outed you the other night as not even watching local live games properly.
Not being nasty, just happy guys like you and your old boy toy JR don’t make the selections.
So why have you never taken PDV to task on Keo for the above?
You seem to blame Sharks supporters, Plumtree… or all and sundry before PDV… strange that!
9 Feb 2010, 15:34 pm
@stormer in a teacup:
9 Feb 2010, 15:34 pm
@Black Panther: Yip, but really…
How much can one oke harp on the same thing again and again and again and…
9 Feb 2010, 15:35 pm
@justrugby: (this is a fire fire extinguisher)
9 Feb 2010, 15:36 pm
How about we discuss whether John Smit should be playing at 3 or not. Seems to come up very rarely for discussion on this site.
9 Feb 2010, 15:37 pm
lions at ellis park will be very physical…stormers not sure about there 10…12 axis….and i see F Louw and Schalk struggling with injury.
Spencer ..if on form…may also fire up the lions….
Yes…stormers may be favorites….but altitude and Lion pride means a tough game. A 1 point away victory will make me very happy.
Sharks will beat Chiefs…..even if they turbo reverse….chiefs are slow starters and the weather going to assist sharks….who will keep it tight.
Bulls …cheetahs…..tough as well….bulls by 3 or 4 i reckon..cant believe Cheetahs choose tewis de bruyn over Sarel Pretorious.
9 Feb 2010, 15:38 pm
@Rum And Maple: Drum….Drum….Drum….Drum….Drum….Drum….Drum….Drum….Drum….Drum….Drum….Drum….Drum….Drum….Drum….Drum….Drum….Drum….Drum….Drum….Drum….Drum….Drum….Drum….Drum….Drum….Drum….Drum….Drum….Drum….Drum….Drum….
(a beaten drum)
9 Feb 2010, 15:39 pm
@Rebels_Shark:
Just say after me ……….JS is not a TH……….. JS is not a TH………….JS is not a TH……see not so bad is it !!!
You are now on the road to redemption !!
Fark my job here is tough !!
9 Feb 2010, 15:39 pm
@Rum And Maple: @153
well, he HAS just signed on for 2 more seasons so…..
Nah, G10 is to be admired. He knows, like any decent rugby guru-saddo, that the tight-5 is NOT the place to fudge skills and squeeze in to others jerseys. Your winger might double as a fullback, your centre can switch betw 12 & 13 and fill 11 & 14 at a squeeze, your loosies can be interchangeable.
But front row, especially, is a place reserved ONLY for specialists. And he knows it.
9 Feb 2010, 15:40 pm
@Dantalian: What, John Smit at 3, my word old chap, you’re a genius, that way we can play Bis at 2 and effectively have the best of both…you should become pdv’s technical advisor…LOL
9 Feb 2010, 15:40 pm
@Black Panther: problem is with Kaino he was hot and very cold last year, probably because he was the only Blues player who could really hold his head high… fatigue may have been a factor for him.. on his day our best 6 at the moment..
who would you have as 8? Soialo on last years form is no longer an option, messam has shown he doesnt have it as does Luaki…
also BP, how do you think Afeaki will go for the Chiefs?
9 Feb 2010, 15:40 pm
@Rebels_Shark: of course i have taken PDV on about that…..in fact i reckon he should be fired if he continues with the madness….
As for Dawn outing me….please man…we were watching stormers b against Boland….and i had a swedisg guest i was explaining rules to next to me…..
But you seem to be very judgemental and full of yourself. So be it.
9 Feb 2010, 15:40 pm
@grant10: You really shoul’d not be so negative on the Stormer’s chances.
I think if you just stick to your guns you will win it…
My Lions consist of are all new combos and need some time to gel…
The Lions will however come out firing, but, I do not think we’ll win it…
9 Feb 2010, 15:41 pm
@FireStraeuli: I have my moments.
9 Feb 2010, 15:43 pm
@Black Panther: I agree, would rather have JS @ 2 myself, but, I do not get sleepless nights because he plays @ 3.
9 Feb 2010, 15:44 pm
@Rum And Maple: Farking Gramatix…
Me struggles now big wiff da tale of English…
9 Feb 2010, 15:45 pm
@Black Panther: 159
Tough being a knowledgeable chap on keo…..
Dont know why i bother.
Truth of the matter is these kids debating here re probably just that….kids.
Anyway BP….you guys there in kiwiland on the right track…Kayman and Jack….that tight 5 will sadly be hard to beat, especially if we continue to pursue this path of insanity.
Rangerman is right about 1 thing though….a walk and a aDIP.
CHEERS ALL
OUTTA HERE
9 Feb 2010, 15:45 pm
Weak Chiefs side, some big names not available, Sharks will win a scrappy game because of the humidity, I have them by 8 !!
9 Feb 2010, 15:46 pm
@grant10: Cheers Grant…
Remember to take your pills!!!
9 Feb 2010, 15:48 pm
groundhog day here on keo…
some people never learn…
9 Feb 2010, 15:49 pm
@grant10: see how long you can hold your breath old timer.
my personal record is just on 12 minutes.
if you beat that, i will join your campaign for js to retire
disclaimer: i havent held my breath for 12 minutes and if grant ccomes up after 12 mins, 3 secs and has had an epiphany about js’s value at 3, yet cant communictae it to jr or the world at large because his lips are frozen and he loses digits to frosbite, i take no responibility.
9 Feb 2010, 15:50 pm
@gunther:
Exactly !!
9 Feb 2010, 15:51 pm
@rangerman: That’s Nasty…
He may just try it… he is so desperate for people to join his crusade…
9 Feb 2010, 15:51 pm
@gunther: scattergun approach is more like it.
we have been told the sneaky kiwis are not to be trusted, they will tell us they want js at 3 to confuse us. but when one agrees with the anti js stance, he is enlightened.
i love keo and its characters but grant keeps on coming on to me and calling me young lady. should i be worried?
9 Feb 2010, 15:52 pm
@Rum And Maple: ja, sorry grant.
DON’T DO IT!!!!
unless you want to
9 Feb 2010, 15:53 pm
ok, i am out.
jr and grant, just kidding around guys. rugby is starting and we will have plentsch more to talk about soon.
have a great day all!
9 Feb 2010, 15:53 pm
@justrugby: has the chiefs side been named already?
9 Feb 2010, 15:54 pm
@rangerman: Well I will not worry if I were you…
Grant is clearly BONKERS!!!
How else can you reason his Anti-JS crusade…
9 Feb 2010, 15:54 pm
@rangerman:
Unlike you who can breathe and talk through his arse while his head is still stuck in the sand !!
9 Feb 2010, 15:54 pm
@poppa69: @161
no, no8 is absolutely a problem for us. Ive never been Soaiolos biggest fan, altho he is a warrior and spills claret for the jersey. I hear he’s bulked up considerably and power was always his problem, couldnt breach the advan line enough.
Read, well he’s a 6. So is Messam, yet like Jerry C, he’s too short to factor as a lineout option (key to no6).
Kaino, yep, too hot’n'cold. Ive always been weary of him since he was intro’ed as ‘the next Michael Jones’. Well Im sure he said a huge THANKS for that one. But he can play a blinder on his day and had a few superb Tests in ’09. Persevere with him, experience will be key and he’s slowly getting it.
Please forget Lauaki. His early season “Ive forgotten about ABs” was a cringeworthy cry for help. And that interview he gave as Capt should surely have nailed Fozzies credentials to the dunny.
Havent seen enough of Afeaki, to be honest. You like ?
Bring Back Buck ?
@Rum And Maple:
Good, because I dont get sleepless nights when he’s on the pitch either.
@grant10:
Yep, might just take a dip myself, the snowflakes are about to arrive here Im told.
9 Feb 2010, 15:55 pm
@rangerman: Cheers, see later…
9 Feb 2010, 15:55 pm
@rangerman:
I think he is just lonely junior turbo doesn’t strike me as the affectionate type…
which is, admittedly, unusual for cape town…
9 Feb 2010, 15:55 pm
Maybe with G10 we should employ the tactics which has a proven track record with Bulls fans….
….give him anada chance…
lol
9 Feb 2010, 15:59 pm
OK. I’m out…
See tomorrow…
9 Feb 2010, 15:59 pm
@FireStraeuli: You hear that Straeuli…..
Drum….Drum….Drum….Drum….Drum….Drum….Drum….Drum….Drum….Drum….Drum….Drum….Drum….Drum….Drum….Drum….Drum….Drum….Drum….Drum….Drum….Drum….Drum….Drum….Drum….Drum….Drum….Drum….Drum….Drum….Drum….Drum….
The joke has now entered the turbo reverse category on keo…
it’s a beaten drum….
and btw…
stop with the beaten drum…drum…drum….drum
Self implosion imminent.
9 Feb 2010, 16:00 pm
@poppa69:
Just what I read on the Selction posers for Plum, thread, see below !!!
Turning his attention to the Chiefs, Reece-Edwards is fully aware of the attacking threat the Kiwis pose, even without Mils Muliaina and Lelia Masaga.
‘We lost two pre-season matches which was a big concern for a lot of people, but we weren’t unhappy in terms of our aims.
‘We know they have fantastic backs, but their strength can also be negated by the weather. From our perspective, it’s more of a case of looking at our own attack, rather than looking at it defensively. We know we have to look for extra bonus points this season.
‘There are a couple of big names missing from the Chiefs, but the quality is still there.’
9 Feb 2010, 16:01 pm
@Black Panther: believe me, Im not wanting Luaki back there, hes had more then enough chances to prove that he just isnt up to it…
wanting to get a look at Viliami Ma’afu, apparently had a good provincial season with NH.
Havent seen any of Afeaki either, thought you may have.
9 Feb 2010, 16:05 pm
@justrugby: cool… still think they will have a formidable team, the likes of kahui, leonard, Sivi, Callum Bruce etc… question marks over some new forwards my only concern, but I believe they will beat the sharks this weekend..
9 Feb 2010, 16:08 pm
@poppa69:
look out for Nanai-Williams, a good Counties boy. He could barry burn them up on the fast tracks of SA.
Fingers crossed that daMalmuncher hits his targets, vital fringers like him come on BIG this season. pressure pressure pressure !
Also Latimer. If McCaw goes down, we need him to step up.
Cheifs like Sweeney never let anyone down. And who is the no12 again ? he’s a handy organiser.
The only player we want in 1 piece is King Kahui, a potential RWC star.
9 Feb 2010, 16:16 pm
@Black Panther: Callum bruce is the 2nd 5 I believe.. unless they want the Duck there (orders from higher up??) hope not..
yep, know the potential Nanai has. I have been praying all off season that someone, somewhere in NZ has taken Aled aside and forced him to throw darts all day every day… such promise..
most of these guys are young, so it is pleasing to see that even with all these defections to the Nh we have new blood coming through, shame we didnt keep a few older heads to assist their development, but we are blessed that we have astute rugby people all through the game to pick up some of that slack..
9 Feb 2010, 16:16 pm
@poppa69:
Will be a very interesting game, I will go with the home side, not sure Chiefs have mentally overcome the scarring that the Bulls inflicted on them in the final.
9 Feb 2010, 16:21 pm
@justrugby: yeah, it is a concern, but what better way to put that behind you then by playing a team that isnt quite sure of itself either..first hit out of the season and a few players will have a point to prove, especially to the SA public… I think the game could swing on one or two mistakes.. tough one to call actually..
9 Feb 2010, 16:25 pm
@poppa69:
Bruce Wayne, thats the one.
SURELY someone has glued a ball’n'string to Aled over the off-season because he NEEDS to own this season. And where better place to start than again Bismarck. Or Big Bum.
The loss of the 2nd-tier guys over past 15yrs has been a massive drawback for NZ rugby, those old heads that test out the new fellas. Imagine likes of Jerry still bashing scones, Jack schooling locks, Mauger sharing his knowledge etc.
9 Feb 2010, 16:27 pm
@poppa69: @190
btw – you had me quite excited until you mentioned the Duck. Go ahead, break my day !
Maybe we can export him in to the Engl team, he’s certainly a classic Engl 10, no ?
9 Feb 2010, 16:36 pm
You’d have to be a tool to want to try and make a living out of dairy, even if you are close to Australia’ where the food revolution of organics has long taken over and they demand the best price in the world for their pristine produce.
9 Feb 2010, 16:41 pm
@Black Panther: hopefully Aled is smart enough to realise he can make the posi his own and has done the work, nothing like gametime to prove it though… Im still a fan of the *****, was a very below par season for him last year..
Donald as the eng 10, huh… hed be a superstar there, and think how easily he’d slot in, half the backline would probably be familiar with his calls
9 Feb 2010, 16:44 pm
@Rebels_Shark:
Oh yes, and since when did Kiwis take dairy farming advice from Safas ?
Unless youre thick, ignorant or both, you would have read that dairy farmers have had a boom decade on the back of commodity prices going thru the roof and Chinas middle classes buying tanker loads of the stuff.
NZ has these horizon’less fields of bizarre green stuff all over the place that cows and, yes, sheep seem to thrive on. Its called ‘grass’.
9 Feb 2010, 16:47 pm
@poppa69:
The only things I really like about the ***** is his name and that ‘mo. And the fact he’s a farmer from Taranaki.
His throwing was woeful in ’09. NEXT !
9 Feb 2010, 16:52 pm
@Black Panther: I liked the work he does around the park, no nonsense and not afraid to get stuck in.. agree totally on his season last year, but everyones allowed one bad one.. big test for him this year
9 Feb 2010, 17:05 pm
@Black Panther:
Hey farkwit, I’m an Aussie, look up Blackmores Wagyu.
And more to the point, the world’s most sought after lamb is in fact a RSA strain, perfected by us Aussies too in Dorper.
Then you need to look into the current best graded goat meat in the top end restaurant market, yep Yarpie strain perfected by Aussies too!
You still want to argue farming of world class produce with an Aussie with RSA connections?
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