Super start
15 Feb 2010
Clarity at the breakdown, reward for the attacking side and a sizzler in Bloemfontein were the stand out features in round one of the Super 14, writes Keo in his weekly Business Day column.
Six away wins also told its own story about the respective strengths and, as in most seasons, there is a distinct top six and bottom eight look about the sides.
Results aside, the weekend was glorious because of how the breakdown was officiated.
Last year no player wanted to carry the ball into contact, for fear of being isolated in the tackle and not having enough time to release the ball. That was the primary reason teams refused to risk attacking and relied instead on a kick and charge approach.
Last season everything favoured the defensive side and a low risk attitude. Tries were minimal, scores of 6-0 resurfaced, viewership dropped and Super Rugby was more like Super boring.
In round one we saw a massive improvement primarily because of the adjustment at the breakdown, which allows the tackled player to place the ball and demands of the tackler to allow for that. It has given the attacking player confidence again when going to ground and it has also freed up the static ball that was a feature of last season’s competition.
This past weekend was a bit like watching the early days of Super Rugby when attack was a more effective weapon than defence and tries were a greater reward than penalties.
The referees, for the most, got it right in round one, although the greatest irritant to spectators and coaches must be how referees coach and manage the flow of the game instead of applying the laws and whistling what they see in front of them.
If a player infringes, penalize him. Why warn him? It means the ill disciplined and clueless (when it comes to the basic laws of the game) get a free ride while the disciplined players get no reward for their application to the laws.
If a player is in front of the kicker, penalize him. Instead we get referees screaming out ‘freeze’. It is the same with a player going offside. Too often a player is guilty but the referee cautions him to get back onside, when he simply should be penalizing the player.
Defending champions the Bulls were impressive in Bloemfontein, but it needed an equally positive approach from the Cheetahs and an outstanding refereeing performance from Jonathan Kaplan to allow for the 51-34 spectacle.
Kaplan was decisive, calm and appreciative of the positive intent of both teams. The Bulls, so often criticized as one-dimensional, are everything but that. We saw it last season when they produced the most stunning and ruthless display in the final and very little seems to have changed in between seasons.
Morne Steyn gets better as a flyhalf each time he plays and those who label him a kicking flyhalf need to open their eyes. He has balance and more strings to his bow than just kicking.
The usual suspects in the Bulls were good and perhaps this is the season when Bulls centre Wynand Olivier forces his way into the Test team as a regular starter. Oliver was outstanding in attack and defence and with Olivier, Fourie du Preez, Victor Matfield and Pierre Spies all operating at maximum it will take a very good team to beat the Bulls this season.
Of the overseas teams the Crusaders and Hurricanes will again lead the charge, while the Brumbies will be difficult to beat in Canberra, if not as difficult to overcome when in South Africa.
Very little seems to have changed with the Stormers and Lions, while the Cheetahs don’t have the depth to trouble too many teams. The Sharks were abysmal and while the weather was a contributing factor it is obvious something is not gelling in the Sharks set-up. They were diabolical in the pre-season and there was not much improvement against an equally out of sorts Chiefs. Neither side deserved to win in Durban.
The Stormers started with a flurry against the Lions and ended with a whimper. It is nothing new for the Stormers to lose second halves or go scoreless but if the Capetonians have serious aspirations of a winning the title they will need to be a darn side better than they were in Johannesburg.
They were poor and the Lions were even poorer. The excuse that this is an inexperienced Lions team is also nonsense. The side that played in Johannesburg was decidedly stronger than the one that beat Western Province in the final round of the Currie Cup.
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15 Feb 2010, 12:01 pm
This Dragon is vrek goed!
Stegmann cleans up Vodacom Bulls match awards
15 February 2010 (11:22)
Deon Stegmann is fast becoming the Silent Assassin of the Vodacom Bulls team. Stegmann received most of the usual post match awards given to the players by the team management after each Vodacom Super 14 match, in this case their opening fixture against the Vodacom Cheetahs.
Stegmman roped in the awards for most cleans, most tackles and was handed the Bumble Bee award, given for an exceptional act during the match.
Stegmann’s tackle on Cheetahs winger, Jongi Nokwe, where he dislodged the ball from the flyer, turned the tide in the match and prevented the Cheetahs from gaining momentum after a good phase of attack.
The awards are:
Bison (most cleans): Deon Stegmann (20 in 80 min),(2nd) Victor Matfield (18 in 80 min).
Sniper (most tackles): Stegmann (16 in 80min), (2nd) Pierre Spies (11 in 80min), Pedrie Wannenburg (11 in 54min)
Hitman (biggest tackle): Pierre Spies (on Adriaan Strauss)
Ant (best back): Wynand Olivier
Workhorse (biggest work rate): Pedrie Wannenburg
Bumble Bee (exceptional effort): Deon Stegmann.
General review (Johan van Graan, forwards coach)
First phase play: “The scrums went very well and we are pleased. There is still room for improvement, but we did score four of our tries from scrums and it is good to see that the hard work in this department of play is bearing fruit. All credit to the players, who executed on the field what we worked on at training.”
Attack: “We adapted very well to the new applications of the law. Referee Jonathan Kaplan was consistent and that helped a lot. We took the ball through many phases and scored some spectacular tries in the process.”
15 Feb 2010, 12:13 pm
Chiefs are going to leave SA with maybe 2 wins. That’s gonna set them up nicely once they’re back home.
15 Feb 2010, 12:20 pm
Early in the season, but steggie had the better of the contest against Brussouw
He is growing in to be a exceptional player!
Some useless info: In Grey Bloem 1st team he was in the back row with
8 = Stegmann
7 = Straus(now hooker for FS)
6 = Brussouw
15 Feb 2010, 12:21 pm
Great column, keo. Agree full-heartedly.
15 Feb 2010, 12:23 pm
The yelling of “FREEZE!!” is embarrassing.
Like a cop in a bad 80′s action movie.
15 Feb 2010, 12:23 pm
@Tacitus: Def 2 wins!
15 Feb 2010, 12:28 pm
I can’t comment on anything.
Am still recovering from Scotland loss to Wales in the LAST FREAKIN’ SECOND OF THE FREAKIN’ GAME!!!
15 Feb 2010, 12:30 pm
@Dawn: Who cares?….. suppose many a shark fan shares your speechlessness!!
15 Feb 2010, 12:30 pm
@The_Green_Machine_is_a_Mean_Machine: It’s just a matter of time before the ref starts screaming at ruck offenders to “put your fcking hands where I can see them!”
15 Feb 2010, 12:32 pm
@Tisme:
I do.
15 Feb 2010, 12:42 pm
@Dawn: In that case my condolences
15 Feb 2010, 12:45 pm
@katman: Why are you guys playing Carlos ahead of a young up and coming black talented flyhalf?. To me, it looks like Muir is back to his best.
15 Feb 2010, 12:45 pm
The Bulls are playing the most Attractive rugby of all the SA teams.
So what will they call Bulls rugby now that it is not one dimensional and forward dominating any more.
Boring because they always win by a large margin…
15 Feb 2010, 12:46 pm
Wicket, sehwag caught !
15 Feb 2010, 12:48 pm
@XhosaKid: Carlos is part Maori, so our boxes are ticked. Next question?
15 Feb 2010, 12:48 pm
@XhosaKid:
I also rate Burton he did very well when he came on.
But all teams need 2 good players in each position, Carlos will give him lots of guidance and help him develop to be a great flyhalf, maybe even Springbok.
BTW he is not black.
15 Feb 2010, 12:50 pm
Tendulkar also out Come on Proteas!!
15 Feb 2010, 12:51 pm
may i remind those who are waxing lyrical about the new interpretations, that 2010 round one saw 30 tries, compared to 45 tries in the same round last year.
15 Feb 2010, 12:54 pm
@ad_oz: true, and more than a third of those tries were scored in the Bulls vs Cheetahs game!
15 Feb 2010, 12:54 pm
@Tisme: sorry meant “just less than a third”
15 Feb 2010, 12:59 pm
@Staal: I do not want to burst your bubble but seriously where on earth did you get those statistics??? If they are from the Bulls management and Co. they are seriously delusional. Suggest they have been sniffing the high-air or something. NOWHERE is there ANY statistical evidence to ratify these figures.
Bulls guys ticking boxes may have been holding more than their pencil
Suggest you research online and see the sham those stats really are.
15 Feb 2010, 13:00 pm
@XhosaKid:
The Lions should make way for the Kings next year
15 Feb 2010, 13:00 pm
Great first round of rugby, looking forward to more of it.
15 Feb 2010, 13:01 pm
“If a player infringes, penalize him. Why warn him?”
Couldn’t agree more…
we’re always saying that if a player is giving away 3 points every few minutes his team and coach are going to do something about it…
yellow-carding guys for repeated technical infringements skews a game…
just keep penasiling them and soon they’ll be 20 points down and having to think about not infringing…
15 Feb 2010, 13:02 pm
@mxhosa: What’s this – a xhosa indaba?
15 Feb 2010, 13:04 pm
@katman: Having watched the game from the stadium,the difference was quiet remarkable when Burton came on for Carlos.
15 Feb 2010, 13:05 pm
@RugbyRulz:
blues v canes – 3 tries
force v brumbies – 3
cheetahs v bulls – 8 (+1 pen try)
crusaders v highlanders – 6
reds v tahs – 4 (+1 pen try)
lions v stormers – 3
sharks v chiefs – 1
28 tries and 2 penalty tries.
that’s ratified i’d say.
15 Feb 2010, 13:05 pm
@Dawn: @7
gutted
15 Feb 2010, 13:06 pm
@RugbyRulz:
Those are from the Bulls management post match technical review. They only relate to Bulls players, not to the Cheetahs, who will have to pay their own technical analyst to do their own analysis for them.
On what basis, may I ask, do you disagree with these stats?
15 Feb 2010, 13:08 pm
@katman: indaba = Zulu; Imbizo = Xhosa
15 Feb 2010, 13:09 pm
@katman:
haha yeah and “you have the right to stfu to the scrumhalves
@XhosaKid:
Burton looked good…was abvious that he wasn’t always a Lion
15 Feb 2010, 13:09 pm
@XhosaKid:
Bosberaad = Afrikaans.
15 Feb 2010, 13:10 pm
@XhosaKid: I like this Burton kid very much and would like to see him do well at the Lions. But you must also compare the possession the Lions were securing in the 2nd half to the meager pickings they had in the first. Carlos didn’t have an awful lot to work with.
15 Feb 2010, 13:12 pm
@RugbyRulz: got it from the Bull site….. if you got a problem with it… phone them….
15 Feb 2010, 13:13 pm
@katman:
Which games do you think the Lions can realistically target for a win this season?
(I know, I know, the Bulls game will be on that realistic list of yours, but let’s look past them for a moment and tell me geniunely who the Lions can beat with “Instinctive Muir” at the helm?
15 Feb 2010, 13:17 pm
@Tacitus:
They are going to get flogged away from home, lets give them the wooden spoon now.
15 Feb 2010, 13:18 pm
@katman: Francis left the Bulls to get exposure at the Lions…
now he doesn’t even get gametime and he will go from a S14 winner go to a Wooden spooner?
or is that the Cheaters?
ya— donnow how the head honcho’s think this gonna work…
15 Feb 2010, 13:20 pm
can any one tell me how Earl Rose played on Saturday, there is something about his face that causes me to only see how very **** he is… has got that please punch me in the face look!?
15 Feb 2010, 13:20 pm
Yeah good column Keo.
15 Feb 2010, 13:23 pm
@Tacitus: Highlanders, Bulls, Cheetahs and Reds are must wins. But we’re also targeting the Force and Sharks.
15 Feb 2010, 13:23 pm
SA will have one team in the semi’s this year like last year.
15 Feb 2010, 13:24 pm
What happen to the prediction competition on keo?
15 Feb 2010, 13:26 pm
Its fair to expect a bit more chatter from the refs in these first few rounds regarding the new breakdown and scrum. As for shouting ‘freeze’, surely we can have the lino’s enforcing a strict offside line as in football ?! And while theyre at it, lets push the offside line back another 5metres.
Great starting round to the S14 in 2010.
15 Feb 2010, 13:27 pm
@NZINCHINA:
Agreed.
15 Feb 2010, 13:28 pm
@Tacitus: @XhosaKid: Pow-wow – Cherokee Indian
15 Feb 2010, 13:28 pm
@katman:
I see. So 6 wins at a minimum for the Lions then, this year, hey?
That’s what, 6 more than last year?
15 Feb 2010, 13:29 pm
@THEBokFan:
Yes, forgot about that one. Although you actually used an offensive term there, I think. The PC terminology now is Native American, from what I’ve read.
15 Feb 2010, 13:31 pm
As a Stormers supporter there is only one team to beat this year and that’s the Bulls ! these guys know’s how to play there rugby. It was a team on the field and they played outstanding rugby so early in the season. There structures are in placed and everything is just going smooth. The Stormers will have to dig deep if they wanne make the top 4 this year. Crusaders look dangerous again and they will take a step upwards that’s for sure. So at the moment the two teams to watch is the Bulls and Crusaders. Looks like it’s going to be another good year for the Bulls.
15 Feb 2010, 13:33 pm
@Tacitus: No, 4 wins minimum. Sharks and Force are possibles.
And we won 3 last year. Didn’t take an IT boffin to research that.
15 Feb 2010, 13:36 pm
They must also target skew feeds on scrum ball. But I agree with Keo, the ref must blow the laws and the players will learn.
15 Feb 2010, 13:38 pm
@Sonito:
Agreed you would have thought Leonard would have learn’t his lesson from the Bokke test last year, he was putting the ball under the 2nd row against the Sharks.
15 Feb 2010, 13:39 pm
@katman:
Sorry. I should have researched it properly, then.
I always say that a bad draw is one where you get to play both the Cheetahs and Lions at your home field.
Why? Well because you would have won those games anyway, whether home or away, so in effect it is two of your 6 home games wasted.
A good draw is when you get to play both the Lions and Cheetahs away, because that’s two away wins on a platter. And in their stead you get to focus on knocking over some of the heavyweights at home.
15 Feb 2010, 13:43 pm
@Andre_WP: # 48. It’s way to early to predict that!
15 Feb 2010, 13:44 pm
@NZINCHINA:
You cant let little things like that go because it is frustrating for the Fans and thats when we start thinking the ref is cheating. Ref’s must blow the laws and thats that.
15 Feb 2010, 13:46 pm
Disagree, the new law interpretations ruined all but one match. All its done is make the refs more pedantic at the ruck area.
Why do we let these ANZACS have so much say? We pay for everything.
I hated the ELVs, but I’d rather have them than this.
15 Feb 2010, 13:49 pm
@Tacitus:
I reckon the Bulls need to worry less about the draw and a little more about shoring up that porous defence they displayed on saturday.
A better side than the Cheetahs would have caused them some real problems.
They did look very good on attack though.
15 Feb 2010, 13:50 pm
@Sonito:
Yes they have to, for whats it worth i’ve never thought an SA or Aus ref has cheated when reffing a NZ team, Barnsey didnt cheat he just had a bad game, I get the feeling on this site that every time an SA team loses with an Aussie or NZ ref they are cheating a bit ridiculous really.
15 Feb 2010, 13:51 pm
@Kobus Kitty:
You hate everything and everybody KKK.
15 Feb 2010, 13:53 pm
@NZINCHINA:
I dont have a problem with the NZ refs but I cant say I have ever seen a good Aussie ref. The Aussie refs seem to lack culture when it comes to Rugby.
15 Feb 2010, 13:55 pm
@Sonito:
NZ refs lack quality and experieince at the moment but to suggest they cheat is way over the top as many on this board do.
15 Feb 2010, 13:56 pm
@Tacitus: The Bulls seem to be the only team that make such a fuss about home vs away games. For everyone else it’s just another game. Now I know you’ll say that’s because you’ve got such a fanatical support base in Pretoria. But I think the truth lies closer to the fact that, for the Bulls, anything beyond Midrand is far from home and requires a permission letter from your mom and a tearful send-off. Most of them appear to live at home, even if that means getting bust for drugs by your own mother. So, the impact of your little away and home games calculations and explanations are kind of lost on the rest of us.
15 Feb 2010, 14:09 pm
@katman:
He should remember if he’s old enough that it wasn’t so long ago that the Bulls couldn’t buy a win and were the whipping boys of super rugby, things can change very quickly being a Blues supporter I remember the glory days of 96/97 a few quality players retire and its all down hill.
15 Feb 2010, 14:09 pm
“The usual suspects in the Bulls were good and perhaps this is the season when Bulls centre Wynand Olivier forces his way into the Test team as a regular starter”
Dream on!
15 Feb 2010, 14:14 pm
@Sonito:
Hey.
Don’t knock Steve.
15 Feb 2010, 14:15 pm
@Mighty Horua: Biggott
15 Feb 2010, 14:18 pm
@Tacitus: I fully agree with you. The more easy away games you have the better. I think you should include teams like the Force and Reds into your equation, and maybe even the Highlanders.
And before anybody says that playing the Highlanders away is hard, think about how hard it is to play the Bulls or Crusaders away.
On the other hand Darren: If you don’t aspire to win the Super 14 (Cheetahs, Lions), then you want easy home games. Just to get that log boost.
15 Feb 2010, 14:18 pm
@NZINCHINA: Exactly. While Tacitus might like to rub it in, it’s not my style to point out that, for example, the Bulls had a 5-year run from 1998 to 2002 that went: second-last, last, second-last, last, last. I mean, no one has come even close to this kind of capitulation, but I’m not petty enough to harp on about it.
15 Feb 2010, 14:19 pm
@katman: LOL! Katman on the money!
15 Feb 2010, 14:20 pm
Would rather play Peter Grant at 12 than this BlouHol!
15 Feb 2010, 14:20 pm
@Mighty Horua: Not a fan of Meisiekind, but DAMN did he play well on friday.
15 Feb 2010, 14:21 pm
@Mighty Horua: For the Boks!
15 Feb 2010, 14:21 pm
@katman: Hey! Isn’t that the great Heineke Meyer’s reign you are referring to? LOL! PLus during that time. If memory serves the Bulls achieved what no other Super franchise has ever managed. Going a whole season without a single win. Not even one. That takes some doing. LOL!
15 Feb 2010, 14:22 pm
@Staal: Thank you for clarification regarding the statistics. I am finding them dubious as I cannot find any statistical analysis online that come close to support them. I did not watch the Bulls game and will not be able to gauge how reputable they are until I have seen a replay. Again thank you.
15 Feb 2010, 14:22 pm
@Cide: Pathetic opposition, i would say.
15 Feb 2010, 14:23 pm
@katman: Maybe your union should start by employing a laywer from PTA to get the wording right on your player contracts…. after that is done maybe get a good coach….. and then maybe some players tied into those contracts….. work on your feeder structures….. and then maybe you could have some time to think about home and away games…… so it is quite understandable that you dont make such a big fuss about it….. you lose both anyway!
15 Feb 2010, 14:23 pm
@rossoneri: lol
15 Feb 2010, 14:25 pm
I don’t see how anyone can deny that Olivier had a fantastic game on Saturday. If he continues this form, he should crack the Bok team regularly.
15 Feb 2010, 14:26 pm
@katman:
Crikey I didn’t know those exact stats I just knew when they came down our way they got thumped. They are a quality side but are a long long way behind the Crusaders in dominating this competition, if they get back to back titles this year it will be a great achievement.
15 Feb 2010, 14:28 pm
@katman: my old Katman….. the big difference is that the Bulls learnt from their dismal form from 1998 – 2002, the Lions didnt (dont)…… maybe we should rename the Lions to The Ostriches as you seem to have your heads in the sand (arse is prob more like it) and dont seem to learn from any of your mistakes…… rather stupid dont you think?
15 Feb 2010, 14:30 pm
@Tacitus: As stated in my reply to Staal ( post 73 ) I can’t find any online stat site that backs the Bulls management stats. Not one.
15 Feb 2010, 14:30 pm
@katman:
You are getting lost in your own bullshit.
@Mighty Horua:
You are disillutional at best !!!
15 Feb 2010, 14:30 pm
I must say…the new laws are great…it works!
I actually got up early on Sat morning to watch some footy…not like last year.
Damn that Bulls are a good side…they just adapt so well to everything…last year with the kicking and this weekend with their running game. I am so jealous of them.
Anyways…this past weekend’s rugby was really fun to watch.
15 Feb 2010, 14:31 pm
Never been a fan of Nokwe’s workrate. He has always seemed to rely on pace out wide and not really looked for work, but this weekend I was really impressed by his involvement and commitment. This could be a watershed season for him.
15 Feb 2010, 14:32 pm
@stormer in a teacup: must say….he did really well.
15 Feb 2010, 14:33 pm
@stormer in a teacup:
I was not a fan of Nokwe’s till last currie cup, he really has improved his work rate and physicality.
15 Feb 2010, 14:33 pm
@katman:
Got their finishes from 3/4/5 and 6?
15 Feb 2010, 14:35 pm
@Ned: With Mapoe on the other wing the Cheetahs can ask a lot of questions this season if they get the ball out quickly.
15 Feb 2010, 14:35 pm
@RugbyRulz: Try thebulls.co.za, as stated it is their own internal stats that their technical analyst had on the game
15 Feb 2010, 14:35 pm
@Tisme: The Bulls success lay in sticking to the coach through the worse and worst of times. Are you saying the Lions ought to have kept Loffie, and in 2015 they will start seeing things turn around, after going through at least one season of losing every single match they play?
I just do not think that Lions supporters or the franchise have the patience you Bulls guys do.
15 Feb 2010, 14:36 pm
@Tisme: How do you know the Lions aren’t busy learning? The Bulls had the worst run of any team ever for 5 long years (1998 – 2002), and only five long years later (2007) did they show any sign of “learning” from this traumatic experience. And this success has only lasted for 3 seasons.
Remember those charts that show how life began – the early crustaceans and the reptiles, dinosaurs, apes etc until you got to man? Remember what an insignificant little sliver man’s history made up? Well the Bull’s recent success is that very sliver. Don’t you forget this.
15 Feb 2010, 14:37 pm
@Kobus Kitty: I have not watched all the games this past weekend but of those I did I am convinced the RETURN to the ‘Laws of Rugby’ are indeed an improvement. About the only real difference is RUCKING has gone. Quick ball is definite, confidence to run has returned and kicking is where it should be… territorial or for safety.
Looks the way to go for sure… ELVes are the myth Big Hit thought them to be.
15 Feb 2010, 14:39 pm
lookout for jaco pretorius to have a big season…..with the ball getting more width he will shine
15 Feb 2010, 14:40 pm
@stormer in a teacup: Jonghi has his moments. He has let him down too often though
15 Feb 2010, 14:40 pm
@rossoneri: Not entirely true, Heyneke was fired during that time, and had two different coaches during that time, in mitigating (not excusing) Heyneke’s wife was fighting cancer…. it was only after the structures Heyneke worked so hard to be put in place that the turn-around came about
Players need to worry only about the game, not coaches, contracts, top management etc etc
15 Feb 2010, 14:41 pm
@Brigadier Van Zyl:
Congrats to him. He got his first try in his whole life. He should retire now, while he is ahead.
15 Feb 2010, 14:42 pm
@Brigadier Van Zyl: What about that other famous Bulls player and Springbok Flyhalf(2006)…..Jaco vd Westhuizen. What about his season? Is he not going to shine?
15 Feb 2010, 14:43 pm
@Tisme: Thank you, I am sure the stats are exactly as stated by the Bulls team of experts. The only problem is there is no statistical evidence on any other site to support them. This is where the stats become blurry.
Nevermind… explaining to people you need statistics from another source to back the said stats (Bulls in-house stats) up is where the credibility of fudging is cleaned up. But hey! Post match feel good stuff is all motivational.
15 Feb 2010, 14:44 pm
@katman:
bulls where uber kak at superrugby….but won the CC in 1998 and 2002.
some sort of success surely?
cheetahs current situation would be a closer comparison….certainly not the lions.
15 Feb 2010, 14:44 pm
@NZINCHINA: Not sure – I don’t have the page open anymore. But after 2002 they had a few years of mid-table finishes before reaching the semis around 2005/2006.
15 Feb 2010, 14:45 pm
@katman: Then they are very sloooooow learners!
what ppl dont understand is that no union will be succsessful in Super Rugby if the dont preform well in their domestic competitions be competitive in the Vodacom Cup, Currie Cup and then that confidence of being the best in SA will flow over to the S14(15)
Untill the Lions dont focus on being a complete Union serving all competitions competitively they will be NOWHERE!!
15 Feb 2010, 14:45 pm
@rossoneri: It is not even about the coach. It is really the backroom team, the people running the business side who determine these things.The Bulls reorganised their internal structures and backed Meyer after putting him on the coaching roundabout with Pretorius.
The Lions have been in this woeful state for so long because they have run like a cake sale rather than a professional sporting franchise. Witness the debacle over improper contracting. Witness the number of players chewing their arms off to get out of there. A strong Lions side can only be good for SA rugby but the changes have to start with the pampoens in the offices.
15 Feb 2010, 14:45 pm
Yes, well summed up. Saw Leonard repeatedly offend on the put-in, with the ref conveniently looking the other way. Not that it would have made a difference, but also that forward pass in the Bulls game.
But all in all, some good, some bad. The surprise of the weekend was the Reds, played really well against a good ‘Tahs team. That Genia chap is dynamite. If that mentally disturbed flyhalf of theirs had kicked a few more it would have been a lock for the win…..
15 Feb 2010, 14:46 pm
@Cide: Hahahahahahaha. You are bad dude!
15 Feb 2010, 14:47 pm
@katman:
Cheers, have been to the magnificent Ellis park and its a real shame their team don’t do it justice.
15 Feb 2010, 14:47 pm
@Cide:
he is a good player, if he can get back the form he showed with the lions he could be a genuine contender.
@rossoneri: ja nutjob.co makes for a brilliant impact player because,simply put…he is a frikken nutjob.
15 Feb 2010, 14:48 pm
@stormersboy: Quade might have been charged with theft, but he had some amazing touches in that game. Very creative, more so that Berick Barnes who was the Reds number 1 flyhalf.
15 Feb 2010, 14:48 pm
WhatEVER happened to Fudge.
15 Feb 2010, 14:51 pm
@Dawn: Eaten by Matt Dunning.
15 Feb 2010, 14:51 pm
@Brigadier Van Zyl: LOL! You know, with the Bulls doing so well, and purely for entertainment value, why don’t you Bulls play Jac vd Westhuizen instead of Morne Steyn in one game. He is a Sprinbok after all and Jake rated him in 2006. The Bulls could always score a big score against another team to make up for whatever Jaco will do.
15 Feb 2010, 14:52 pm
@stormer in a teacup: That guy just doesn’t build muscle, no matter what!
15 Feb 2010, 14:52 pm
@RugbyRulz: rulz, i cant understand how you can choose to dispute stats if you havent seen the game?
more importantly why would you want to?
are you a stats freak? what was it, the number of tackles that got up your nose? if you look at the final score, it may give an indication of what type of game it was.
15 Feb 2010, 14:53 pm
@rossoneri:
got to give it to him though, he was great for the boks in 2004.
15 Feb 2010, 14:53 pm
@rossoneri:
Don’t get too carried away the Bulls aren’t that far ahead of the rest.
15 Feb 2010, 14:54 pm
@rangerman:
Was that you chucking that jug?
15 Feb 2010, 14:55 pm
@rangerman: Why is the subject so touchy?
Not one rugby site can back the stats. Not even the fanciful Fantasy Rugby sites embellish that way.
You obviously have taken a little look or I would never have drawn a peep from you.
15 Feb 2010, 14:58 pm
@Dawn:
pretty sure I read he is injured…
but don’t despair
he will be back…!!
15 Feb 2010, 15:01 pm
@rossoneri: LOL! why dont the ab’s just play donald in every test instaead of dan carter?
the anger is strong in you.
15 Feb 2010, 15:04 pm
Where’s Mr. Xhosa?
I’d like an explanation please:
Mthatha – A 41-year-old mortuary assistant has been arrested for alleged violation of corpses, Eastern Cape police said on Monday.
Superintendent Mzukisi Fatyela said the man was arrested on Sunday after another worker allegedly caught him with his pants down in the mortuary.
“We called a doctor on Monday to examine the corpses and the doctor confirms they were violated,” he said.
He said there were three bodies and tests conducted revealed he had allegedly violated two.
He was due to appear in the Mthatha Magistrate’s Court on Tuesday.
15 Feb 2010, 15:05 pm
@NZINCHINA: no, i was actually disgusted mate.
@RugbyRulz: i am not a bulls fan rulz, i just dont understand why the stats got so far up your nose?
you call them fanciful but havent even seen the game???????
but if stats are your thing then carry on by all means, just try and show us some kind of reason as to why you think they are so far fetched please.
me? i couldnt be bothered trying to prove published stats wrong, i will rely on you for that.
15 Feb 2010, 15:05 pm
@Tacitus: hectic, but whats that got to do with a blogger here tac?
15 Feb 2010, 15:06 pm
@rossoneri: I think they will play wacko against the Lions! or maybe even go play with 12 men, just not to get 100 on the board
15 Feb 2010, 15:07 pm
@Tacitus: Ha ha!
15 Feb 2010, 15:09 pm
@rangerman:
Maybe nothing. I just thought Mr. Xhosa, being so keen to identify himself by his ethnic origin, would like to comment on this bit of news from Mthatha…
15 Feb 2010, 15:09 pm
@rangerman:
Just joking Ranger read your post last night re incident, happens everywhere unfortunately.Your Sharks look a weaker than last year they will need to really pick up their game to make the sem’s from here.
15 Feb 2010, 15:09 pm
@Tacitus: @rangerman:
That’s a bit underhanded from Tacitus.
He merely goes and repeats what hater did in the past when she asked some of the more right-wing guys on here whether they also go out to Skielik and shoot children…
Not on, Tacitus, you should know better.
15 Feb 2010, 15:10 pm
@Tacitus:
Other than KEO where do you get your news from, what a great find?
15 Feb 2010, 15:12 pm
@rangerman: Sorry if I appear to be getting up your nose. You see my friend when in business I must rely on good solid information from my researchers before I can draw up a tender. Now if the research is dubious (cannot be ratified) I stand to rodger myself, colleagues and my company. Not to mention the possibility of opening my firm up to litigation when not upholding said tender (quotation).
It may seem nothing to you and all the gullible people of the world but it does matter.
15 Feb 2010, 15:13 pm
@Tacitus:
I’ve heard of about five incidents previously involving mortuary assistants in South Africa, from all across the country.
What’s the point?
15 Feb 2010, 15:14 pm
On that note rangerman I will leave the matter. There is no point as the issue falls on deaf ears.
15 Feb 2010, 15:14 pm
@WP Till I Die:
Come now. That’s certainly not my intention. This is a lighthearted diversion. I’m certainly not implying that Mr. Xhosa associates with this kind of thing.
I was merely asking for his comments on this, just like I’d ask Stodders for his comments if such an article originated from Glasgow.
But I will happily retract my question, if it causes me to be painted with the same brush as that Hater chap.
Really, this story had me struggling not to laugh. Anyway, sorry for disturbing the monotony then. Consider my question withdrawn.
15 Feb 2010, 15:15 pm
Come on, Tac, you’re smarter than that.
“being so keen to identify himself by his ethnic origin” – this is something you’ve done on numerous occasions as well, defending the Blue Bulls culture and Afrikaner culture in general.
Now you open the door to be equated to every single incident of wrongdoing by an Afrikaner?!?
15 Feb 2010, 15:17 pm
@WP Till I Die: Yes, and it’s not just a Xhosa thing. One of those five was a Greek called George Fakidikakis.
15 Feb 2010, 15:18 pm
@Tacitus:
The problem is that the mood/inflection behind a post is not always apparent and can be misread/misunderstood.
I also thought the story was quite funny.
I heard of an incident where a woman went for a pap smear, and they discovered dead cells during the exam. This was extremely strange for the physicians involve.
Transpired the wife’s husband was an assistant at a mortuary – he’d been having unprotected intercourse with the corpses at the mortuary and then proceeding to do the same with his wife.
Pretty sickening.
15 Feb 2010, 15:19 pm
@WP Till I Die:
So tell me truthfully. If this story came from Sydney, would you not be having a go at every Aussie blogger and his mate about it? Irrespective of where he happens to reside today?
Come on now. Stop with the feigned indignation.
15 Feb 2010, 15:19 pm
@rossoneri: He’s a good player. I saw him a year ago playing for Aus against the Baba’s and was extremely impressed. Barnes didn’t have an amazing game, but he’d still be my no 1 choice with Git at 12.
If Cooper could get his kicking stats up he’ll be pushing very hard on barnes….also his kicking out of hand can do with some improvement.
15 Feb 2010, 15:19 pm
hehehehehehehe, thats funny Katman
15 Feb 2010, 15:21 pm
This is fantastic Kiwi’s shag sheep and Saffa’s shag corpes, will dine out on this one for years to come.
15 Feb 2010, 15:21 pm
@Tacitus: Thats why I dont buy or read the Daily Sun, anyway, I reckon WPTID and Ranger have answered.
15 Feb 2010, 15:21 pm
@Tacitus:
I’m just saying – be careful, if you are willing to dish it out you must be able to take it too.
I understand now that your intention is quite innocent, the problem is we have such a sensitive society in South Africa.
Maybe I’m just trying to be too PC.
Ah, fark it.
15 Feb 2010, 15:22 pm
And even if it was a Xhosa thing… if this whole Zuma affair has taught me one thing it is that you cannot mock a man’s culture. Polygamy, necrophilia, lang-arm – each to his own.
15 Feb 2010, 15:22 pm
@WP Till I Die:
I always thought Hater returned as Rossoneri ?
Am I wrong ?
15 Feb 2010, 15:22 pm
@XhosaKid:
Look relax. It’s a funny story. Nothing more.
15 Feb 2010, 15:23 pm
Aaaaghf Fark…. now Nzinchina knows! 8-()
15 Feb 2010, 15:23 pm
@Blouste:
I think so, yes.
15 Feb 2010, 15:24 pm
@Tisme:
Thanks to Tac…I’m sure NCINCHINA is now pasting it all over Silver Fern!
15 Feb 2010, 15:26 pm
@WP Till I Die:
@WP Till I Die:
You got it BP and the boys are going to love this one……
15 Feb 2010, 15:27 pm
@WP Till I Die: Dont worry, will not attract to much attention…. he wont post with a picture of a sheep
15 Feb 2010, 15:28 pm
@Tacitus: actually, its quiet a funny story, you could have thrown that at all South Africans not necessarly Xhosa,there was no need for “ethnicity”, its just soared the joke, anyway moving along, howz Pretoria West today.
15 Feb 2010, 15:32 pm
Did someone mention Die SON?
That’s where Simon gets hs stuff from.
15 Feb 2010, 15:33 pm
@Tacitus: Snaaks ek stem maar los die goed vir die ape, klink asof jy bietjie meer klas het al is jy n bul
15 Feb 2010, 15:33 pm
Did you hear the one about the Saffa and the corpse?
15 Feb 2010, 15:33 pm
On a side note, apparently our President’s inbox has been flooded by thousands of anti-crime e-mails…
15 Feb 2010, 15:36 pm
The Springboks have been nominated by the global media for the prestigious 2010 Laureus World Team of the Year award…
WELL DONE BOKKE!!!
15 Feb 2010, 15:37 pm
Going to be a good S14, looks like the Bulls will carry the flag but its still early days.
Sharks past its prime, time to rebuild. Cheetahs always saves their best effort for the Bulls and the Lions are kak
Will wait for this weekends game to judge the Stormers
15 Feb 2010, 15:38 pm
Latest headline in Die SON …
Someone got into a brawl with a tokoloshe.
Damn I gotta start buying that paper.
15 Feb 2010, 15:38 pm
Wow! ******** corpses has now became comedy!!!! Sorry, I don’t care in which country this takes place, but I can’t see the humour in a story like that. Tac, where would you say is the punchline? Or do you see this as dry South African humour?
15 Feb 2010, 15:39 pm
@Amerifikaner:
I give up. OK? Geez!
15 Feb 2010, 15:40 pm
@Amerifikaner: Deadpan humour.
15 Feb 2010, 15:42 pm
@Blouste: What would you like to know Blouste. Are you guys having a little skinner speculating? I know Puma and Vuurtjie break their heads about it all. Here I am ask away.
15 Feb 2010, 15:44 pm
@Dawn: Classic Son headline. Almost as crazy as Hansie saying the devil made him match fix.
15 Feb 2010, 15:44 pm
@rossoneri:
Hi, are you hater ?
15 Feb 2010, 15:45 pm
@Dantalian: Rotten sense of humour.
15 Feb 2010, 15:45 pm
@RugbyRulz: Why not ask the other unions why they don’t do their own stats, maybe they are run like k@k businesses!!!
15 Feb 2010, 15:47 pm
@Dawn: My best headline from Die Son has to be: “Tikkop het my hond gepomp”
15 Feb 2010, 15:47 pm
i was into necrophilia until some c*nt split on me.
ok,ok i know.
old joke
15 Feb 2010, 15:49 pm
Well, don’t blame us. You’ve set pretty high standards for the rest of us. Over the years you have lived by such a high moral standard on this blog and your rugby knowledge is highly regarded. It’s just that this was so far below your usual high standards.
15 Feb 2010, 15:49 pm
@katman: Amper so goed soos Dominee naai dorp aan die brand
15 Feb 2010, 15:50 pm
The last post was meant for Tacicus.
15 Feb 2010, 15:51 pm
Tacitus that is. Jeez. It’s early morning here in the western hemisphere.
15 Feb 2010, 15:51 pm
@Gary: Can’t read that and not buy the paper.
15 Feb 2010, 15:51 pm
obviously necrophilia removes the need for foreplay (and honestly some women are RIDICULOUS in that department)…
however on the whole probably not a good thing…
15 Feb 2010, 15:54 pm
@gunther:
Your assuming the corpses were female.
15 Feb 2010, 15:54 pm
Some strange people on here
15 Feb 2010, 15:54 pm
Tim Hancox XV: 15 Israel Dagg, 14 Wandile Mjekevu, 13 Jaque Fourie, 12 Wynand Olivier, 11 Zac Guildford, 10 Dan Carter, 9 Will Genia, 8 Wycliff Palu, 7 James Horwill, 6 Liam Messam, 5 Andries Bekker, 4 Danie Rossouw, 3 John Afoa, 2 Andrew Hore, 1 Ben Daley.
Team of the weekend from a guy @ rugby365 … brilliant mjekevu …. you are the prince of wings..not that carel oke …. mjekuvu had a blinder …best wing play since Super rugby started in 1994(1995 or whenever) … PDV should play him wing in the Bok team this year
15 Feb 2010, 15:54 pm
@katman:
Yep, saw that.
You should take a tour around Die Burger gebou sometime.
Die Burger floor is very quiet and sedate with geharde joernaliste doing their thing.
Get out on Die SON floor and you think you in another world.
Daar gaan dit rof.
15 Feb 2010, 15:55 pm
@NZINCHINA:
I would imagine…
15 Feb 2010, 15:55 pm
@katman: Verseker, lyk my om kommin te wees is die in ding. Daardie band uit die Kaap uit die Antwoord het aanhangers die wereld oor, my kop is te klein om dit te verstaan
15 Feb 2010, 15:55 pm
@gunther:
What would you know about foreplay.
15 Feb 2010, 15:56 pm
@Gary: Daai is next level beats, for sure.
15 Feb 2010, 15:56 pm
@gunther:
and if women are RIDICULOUS in the foreplay department, good on them!
Men haven’t shone in that area either.
Just get on with it man. What’s with the foreplay twaddle.
15 Feb 2010, 15:57 pm
@Amerifikaner:
I honestly don’t understand how this article is now some kind of reflection on MY values? I just copied and pasted the thing and now you make it sound like I dreamed it up in some sick fantasy?
I read it.
I blinked and read it again, just to make sure my eyes weren’t deceiving me.
I saw which town it was from.
The town made me think of Mr. Xhosa and Xhosakid.
I thought I’d get their thoughts on the matter.
There. Now you have my entire thought process on the matter. So do I pass or fail?
15 Feb 2010, 15:58 pm
Breaking news just released from the Sharks Camp. J Smit has resigned from international rugby.
15 Feb 2010, 15:58 pm
@NZINCHINA:
gulp …. ***** me its worse than I thought….
15 Feb 2010, 15:58 pm
I’ve seen ‘die antwoord’. What I want to know is wat was die vraag?
15 Feb 2010, 15:58 pm
@Dawn: I actually worked there for a short period about 12 years ago (Die Burger, not Die Son).
15 Feb 2010, 15:59 pm
@Tacitus:
This is brilliant far better than talking about boring old Bulls stats from the weekend – thanks mate.
15 Feb 2010, 16:00 pm
@katman: Gaan kyk n bietjie op watkykjy hulle nuwe hit single “Jou ma se p#s in n fishpaste jar” Nogal n foto ook by
Dan kom die spul nog uit die Kaap ook, solank ons rugbyspelers net nie skandes maak nie
15 Feb 2010, 16:00 pm
@Blouste: Ofcourse. Why?
15 Feb 2010, 16:00 pm
@katman:
I would consider it an honour to have worked at Die SON.
15 Feb 2010, 16:01 pm
@THE Shark: LOL
He should resign from any rugby if they play him at 3 !
15 Feb 2010, 16:01 pm
@Dawn:
too much foreplay is the equivalent of pigging out on to much starch and then not having room for dessert…
it makes no sense….
besides as my mate tiger says if you can’t reach the green with a 3 iron you ain’t going to do it with a wedge…
15 Feb 2010, 16:01 pm
@Gary:
Sounds like a song the guys from RT would write.
15 Feb 2010, 16:01 pm
Nothing like cracking open a cold one after a hard day’s work. Clearly the guy in the article feels the same way
15 Feb 2010, 16:02 pm
@Richie_7:
wrong but funny.
15 Feb 2010, 16:03 pm
@Richie_7:
Ha ha
15 Feb 2010, 16:03 pm
@rossoneri:
I’m just curious.
Thank you for answering honestly. Appreciate.
15 Feb 2010, 16:04 pm
@gunther:
You haven’t explained why women are RIDICULOUS at foreplay.
15 Feb 2010, 16:05 pm
@Richie_7:
Thats just **** funny…
15 Feb 2010, 16:05 pm
@Gary: Some of it is really crude, but they’ve nailed some tracks. Check out Liewe Maatjies on their site (I don’t think there’s a video yet). Pretty good, musically and lyrically.
15 Feb 2010, 16:06 pm
@Dawn:
So you’ve been peeking.
Strange, never saw you there.
Strange conclusion…
15 Feb 2010, 16:07 pm
@Xhosa-Kid:
eita nto yakhuthi!Ndicela ubuza uphuma phi?
15 Feb 2010, 16:09 pm
@Dawn: LOL!!, on a more serious point: What Daily Sun/ Die Son have achieved in terms of promoting literacy and/or the habit of reading in the townships is quiet phenominal.All of a sudden, guys who wouldn’t touch a newspaper even if their lives depended on it, are now reading.
Grannys, uncles etc etc who take the trains to the suburb every morning are now knuckling down and reading, even those who cant read are buying the paper and are giving it to the schoolkids in the trains to narrate the stories, everyone wins, the kid gets to practice reading, a generation that never went to school gets excited about buying a “newspaper”.
I wish government can say, THANK YOU, Daily Sun.
15 Feb 2010, 16:10 pm
@Blouste:
Ag come on.
“Jou ma se p#s in n fishpaste jar”
That’s EXACTLY what they’d say.
I didn’t have to go there to know this.
They did it here.
15 Feb 2010, 16:10 pm
@katman: Jack Parow het sy oomblikke, hou net nie van sulke afrikaanse redneck tronkvoels wat ewe skielik fashion geword het nie maar sal gaan check dankie. Hulle het tot n Fransie lookalike in een van hulle videos, nee man
15 Feb 2010, 16:11 pm
@NZINCHINA: @58
*hearty belly chuckle*
15 Feb 2010, 16:11 pm
@XhosaKid:
Precisely.
I agree 110%!
Next stop, Charles Dickens, hopefully.
15 Feb 2010, 16:12 pm
I thought I had explained it adequately…
unfortunately I am unavailable for a personal consultation….
as you know thursdays is pilates night….
15 Feb 2010, 16:12 pm
@Dantalian: Die vraag was wat is meer kommin as n bloubul supporter met n paar blou ballas agter sy cortina
15 Feb 2010, 16:12 pm
@Black Panther:
Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, thought you’d like that mate.
15 Feb 2010, 16:13 pm
@Dawn:
Never saw it, but hey, if you say so…
15 Feb 2010, 16:15 pm
@Gary:
‘n Province supporter met sy tjommie sin in sy hand…
15 Feb 2010, 16:16 pm
@Gary: Jack Parow is meer ‘n openlike parodie van zef Afrikaner kultuur. Dis veronderstel om ‘n joke te wees en mens lag vir die slim lirieke. Mens lag (soortvan) vir Die Antwoord ook, maar dis ‘n effense ongemaklike laggie omdat dit meer eg voorkom.
15 Feb 2010, 16:17 pm
@Blouste: Julle bulle supporters praat darem lekker stories vandag, van dooie mense spyker tot jou tjommie se draad trek. All class
15 Feb 2010, 16:17 pm
Keo,
“Morne Steyn gets better as a flyhalf each time he plays” ?
3 months aren’t that long time, have we already forgotten the Morne Styen of the 2009 EOYT?
15 Feb 2010, 16:17 pm
@Dawn: great!!, “The tale of two townships”.
15 Feb 2010, 16:17 pm
Gotta run, found out some interesting things about SA culture tonight – until next time.
15 Feb 2010, 16:18 pm
@katman: Ding is van die antwoord hulle is regtig soos hulle voorkom, maak my ongemaklik jy is reg.
15 Feb 2010, 16:20 pm
@Gary:
Jy het ‘n vraag gevra, ek het die moeite gedoen om hom vir jou te antwoord.
As jy nie verstaan nie, vra weer, ek sal vir jou probeer verduidelik.
15 Feb 2010, 16:20 pm
@NZINCHINA: @146
@WP Till I Die:@133
oh, jeez, thanks fellas.
not only did that turn my lunch, but it also made me think that shagging sheep was better than something else afterall.
15 Feb 2010, 16:21 pm
@Blouste: Ek verstaan nie, ek het gese kommin, nie sif nie
15 Feb 2010, 16:21 pm
@usualsuspect: Born eRhawutini, ndakhulela eGcuwa, in fact,yonke infundo yamabanga aphantsi ndiyenze eGcuwa and some other parts ze Mpuma Koloni, sikhule kunye no-”Transformation”, ndilapha where it all started.
15 Feb 2010, 16:21 pm
@NZINCHINA: I am mocking Jaco. Everyone knows he is plain cookoo.
@rangerman: Just having some fun at Jaco’s expense, and reminding the Bulls that they might be on the top, but it’s a long season and they have had their rough times too.
15 Feb 2010, 16:23 pm
@Gary:
Fyn lyn tussen die twee…
As jy jou wil uitgee vir ‘n toffie, moet jy bereid wees om gekou te word…
15 Feb 2010, 16:25 pm
@Blouste: Nee ou maar nie sulke **** grappie nie, waarvan die mond vol is loop die mond oor
15 Feb 2010, 16:26 pm
@Blouste: Bloubul filosofie. Diep.
15 Feb 2010, 16:27 pm
@Blouste: Wat jy en jou tjommie Tac se is sif, kommin is n kabouter by die voorhek
15 Feb 2010, 16:30 pm
@Gary: ‘n Shark supporter met ‘n haai fin op die dak van sy cortina bakkie!!
15 Feb 2010, 16:33 pm
@JA-JA: Was n paar jaar gelede op Kingspark toe Natal teen WP gespeel het en een supporter het n gehekelde piesang teussen sy bene vasgemaak, dis great stuff. So het ons almal maar ons supporters, vat hulle eerder voor ek die klomp All Black supporters op Nuweland vat
15 Feb 2010, 16:36 pm
@Gary:
En dit wat jy probeer impliseer is stereotiep en veralgemening, of moet ons nou vir mekaar begin vertel hoe kommin/sif of wat ook al jou verduideliking daarvoor is elke span se ondersteuners is…
Swak ou poging tot sensasie, uitdeel kan jy, maar sukkel met die ontvang gedeelte sien ek…
15 Feb 2010, 16:36 pm
@rossoneri:
I think the lesson all teams should learn from the bulls is that they were absolute ****, the worst of the sa franchises, but they did something about it. they achieved their goals with hard work and patience, even their staunchest critics would struggle to deny that their future looks very good…not something to crow about but something the other teams could do well to emulate…
15 Feb 2010, 16:36 pm
@Gary: Gehekelde piesang? Nie geweet mense hekel nog nie.
15 Feb 2010, 16:39 pm
@Gary:
Fool.
15 Feb 2010, 16:40 pm
@Gary:LOL!!! Het die man ‘n kondoily gehad vir die gehekelde piesang?
15 Feb 2010, 16:41 pm
kondoily = gehekelde kondoom
15 Feb 2010, 16:43 pm
@Blouste: Ontspan julle Bulle is ok as julle slaap.
Vertel liewers vir ons wie gaan julle kry in Jaco Pretorius se plek die naweek
15 Feb 2010, 16:47 pm
@Dawn: genuine, dit het tot n curve ingehad
15 Feb 2010, 16:48 pm
n bietjie na die linkerkant toe
15 Feb 2010, 16:49 pm
@Gary:
Pretorius is geen “great loss” nie, in teen deel hy het nog nie regtig iets by die Bulle beteken imo nie.
Dink hulle sal F.Hougaard oorweeg.
Stefan Dippenaar sal ook goed doen.
En hulle kan JL Potgieter inbring na binne senter en meisiekind uitskuif.
Sal moet sien wat die coach besluit…
15 Feb 2010, 16:53 pm
Goieste – wat de hel het mettie thread gebeur?
15 Feb 2010, 16:55 pm
@Blouste: Dink Hougaard word gewaste by julle want as FdP die dag n besering kry is die Bokke in die moeilikheid en daardie mannetjie het die X faktor vir n skrumskakel.
Stem oor Pretorius, het hom gerate by die leeus maar om daar te shine is seker ook nie moeilik nie geen disrispek
15 Feb 2010, 16:56 pm
@Staal: happy hour by teazers in Pretoria
15 Feb 2010, 16:58 pm
@Gary:
Hougaard gaan Fourie opvolg, no doubt…
Sal hierdie S14 ook speel as Fourie gerus word.
Hy word net nou uit posisie gespeel weens beserings, maar sal deurkom, moenie stres nie.
Hy moet net geduld he tot volgende jaar.
Sal tien teen een in die CC ook daar speel.
15 Feb 2010, 17:02 pm
@Blouste: Hoop vir julle en die bokke se part hy word nie die volgende Ruan nie. Maar om die S14 te wen beteken dit jy moet diepte he
Anyways moet gaan slaap, geniet die seisoen. Julle lyk goed
Danie vir die banter, spot maar net
15 Feb 2010, 17:03 pm
@Gary: danie = dankie
15 Feb 2010, 17:12 pm
Super start maybe…things just looking a tad predictable…much like 2009…
15 Feb 2010, 17:28 pm
@Blouste: if the bulls intention is for hougaard to be du Preez successor then i think playing him at wing is doing him more harm than good. look at what happend to Pienaar. Get rid of Adams (though i do rate him aswel)and let hougaard focus soley at scrumhalf. If i were the bulls id make an offer to Mapoe that he cant refuse, hes work rate is very impressive.
15 Feb 2010, 18:25 pm
@Mustard:
Mapoe would be a great buy…
15 Feb 2010, 18:32 pm
@Blouste: He would be a great Bok…off the bench at first…
15 Feb 2010, 19:17 pm
Cape Town – Chaos erupted at the V&A Waterfront on Monday when former Springbok captain and SuperSport presenter, Bob Skinstad, was arrested.
Journalists at the venue were quick to react, grabbing their tape recorders as they started firing questions at the two armed policemen who handcuffed Skinstad and escorted him into a police van.
The commanding officer refused to comment as to the exact charges, except to say “Mr Skinstad cannot be giving out free school shoes to children. Just imagine if every child thinks they should now have a pair of school shoes. And for free. What would happen? There would be dancing in the streets and that is not right. ”
An anonymous rugby fan in his late 40s, who was passing by at the time said, “I was shocked. Just the other day I was watching Bob on TV thinking what a likeable, decent guy he is and then I see him being dragged off in handcuffs by the police. It was terrible to see.”
It has since emerged that Skinstad, who prefers to be called Bob, is being charged with a “positivity” crime – using the media to raise awareness for the millions of schoolchildren who are subjected to the daily pain and humiliation of having to go to school without school shoes. In fact, in most cases, children who do not have uniform or shoes do not attend school.
Says Bob: “What child wants to go to school when they know they will be teased, when they know that they will stand out? I believe every child has the right to own a pair of school shoes because it’s an important step in giving children a sense of pride and dignity, thus enhancing the child’s education.”
Determined to “walk the talk”, Bob started the “bobsforgood foundation” along with his good friend, Ron Rutland. The foundation is driven by a single concept – to put shoes on the seven million children in South Africa that do not have shoes. Bob is fully committed in providing beneficiaries with shoes made in South African, by South African women who were once disadvantaged themselves. It’s about supporting everything that is South African. It’s a win-win situation for children and our economy.
So serious is Bob about this issue, that he is willing to “go to jail” for the cause.
Over the next five days, Bob will be housed in a constricted jail cell at the V&A Waterfront’s Barrow Court in the shopping mall. He will be released from jail on February 20 when the next leg of his awareness campaign – Walk This Way – will begin.
15 Feb 2010, 20:11 pm
Sharks 2010 Super14 Squad is
1 Willem Alberts
2 Jacques Botes
3 Craig Burden
4 Deon Carstens
5 Patric Cilliers
6 Keegan Daniel
7 Jean Deysel
8 Bismark Duplessis
9 Jannie Duplessis
10 Monty Dumond
11 Alistair Hargreaves
12 Wiehahn Herbst
13 Adrian Jacobs
14 Ryan Kanowski
15 Rory Cockott
26 Patrick Lambie
17 Louis Ludick
18 Charl Mcleod
19 Gerhard Mostert
20 Tendai Mtawarira
21 Johann Muller
22 Waylon Murray
23 Lwazi Mvovo
24 Skholiwe Ndlovu
25 Odwa Ndugane
26 Ruan Pienaar
27 JP Pietersen
28 Michael Rhodes
29 John Smit (capt)
30 Andries Strauss
31 Riaan Swannepoel
32 Steven Sykes
33 Stefan Terblanche
34 Luzuko Vulindlu
15 Feb 2010, 20:12 pm
CALLINGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG fransieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee , Butchyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy <barrittttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt come home pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
15 Feb 2010, 20:19 pm
Thread of the year. Kommin kabouters!
15 Feb 2010, 22:00 pm
I don’t agree with the “new laws” or how they are applied. Bring back rucking… otherwise let’s just call it rugby league and be done with it. I really did not enjoy the rugby last weekend. It’s all about the ref now, boring.
16 Feb 2010, 00:55 am
I agree with Mr Grumpy Outlander about rucking, but OTOHD (new abreviation, thanks Naasty) I enjoyed the weekend, some very hard rugby played, some big hits and hard runs..great to see back.
I believe the game breakdown will get a bit competitive at the breakdown, the guys are all a bit gunshy at the moment. I noticed the flankers didnt have such an impact on the game, which as much as I like good flankers, its nice to see the workload being spread around.
So far so good….
BTW all those guys whinging that the new interpretation was just another ANZAC plot might conciderthinking before speaking, wait watch and see. I recon this interpretation suits the SA teams better as later on the clean out and counter rucking will come more and more into play.
16 Feb 2010, 04:20 am
Muffy, agreed the new laws will diefinetly suit our big boois not having to go down on the ground the whole time. It takes a lot of effort when getting up.
Rucking should be allowed. The off side line needs better policing.
The refs should be rated too. If a player is poor he is dropped, and so should it apply to refs.
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