‘We’ve achieved nothing yet’
9 Mar 2010
Bulls coach Frans Ludeke says his champion side refuses to buy into the hype surrounding them.
Three wins from three, including a couple of comprehensive ones over some highly rated opposition. A fluent attack and improving defence and match winners across the track – the Bulls look the business.
In addition, they are heavily favoured to beat the Highlanders at Loftus on Saturday, stretching their unbeaten run at the ground to 14 matches. Yet Ludeke maintains perspective.
‘What have we done? We’ve won our home games. With the greatest humility, that is expected from a side who back themselves to contend for the title,’ Ludeke told keo.co.za.
‘We’ve achieved nothing yet. We haven’t toured Australasia, and we are still to play the Highlanders and Hurricanes at home. This tournament has a habit of humbling you if you get ahead of yourself and start believing the hype. We’re guarding against that, and we’re demanding an improved performance every time we step onto the field.’
Ludeke’s charges returned to training on Monday refreshed after a week where most of them were given the complete break. He said the benefits were patent in training, with the players exhibiting a fresh focus and looking sharp in their sessions.
The break also gave Ludeke the opportunity to consolidate his thinking regarding tactics and team selection, and to analyse the Highlanders closely. That analysis has lead him to identify the set phases and breakdown as their primary threats.
‘They’re a very good srcummaging unit and very competitive at the lineout. When those aspects of their game have operated well, they’ve asked big questions of some really good teams,’ he said.
‘They’re also one of the few teams who still contest the breakdown strongly despite the new law interpretations. They’re strong at the tackle point and counter-ruck with force. If they are able to slow the recycle it’ll be difficult for us to get the momentum that’s been at the heart of our success.
‘The guys are on high alert. They know they have to be switched on.’
Ludeke said they were focussed, although not exclusively, on shoring up their defence. They’ve leaked 10 tries in three matches, which is uncharacteristic for a side who have generally been one of the best defensive units over the last four years.
The Highlanders have punished teams who have had lapses in concentration or flat periods, and Ludeke was acutely aware of their penchant for the sucker punch.
‘It needs to be an accurate 80 minute performance on defence for us. We’ve probably let ourselves down slightly in that area and we can’t afford to rely on our attack to get us out of trouble,’ he said. ‘The best teams make themselves incredibly hard to score against and that’s what we are aspiring to.’
Ludeke has a selection conundrum in the back row with the return of No 8 Pierre Spies from injury. It is likely that he will thrust the hard running Springbok back into the fray immediately, but also has the option of playing Dewald Potgieter or Danie Rossouw there.
The combination of Rossouw (No 8), Pedrie Wannenberg (blindside flank) and Derick Kuun, who started against the Waratahs, looked cumbersome and unbalanced, and Ludeke should opt to reunite the regular trio of Spies, Potgieter and Deon Stegmann.
Outside of the back row reshuffle, there is unlikely to be any changes to the starting line-up who fronted the Tahs a fortnight ago.
By Ryan Vrede
225 Comments
9 Mar 2010, 08:09 am
No one achieved anything its round4. A lot of rugga to be played
9 Mar 2010, 08:18 am
I like his attitude…
same as in 2009….
there is no freebee in life.. .you got to work for it… but even then things can go wrong!
so let’s just take it game for game….
the losie is stocked full of Biltong and versnappings… will be there to watch…
let’ hope for the best.
9 Mar 2010, 08:23 am
Tell your fans with their big mouths that…
9 Mar 2010, 08:23 am
“Four wins from four starts” Um, ok.
9 Mar 2010, 08:23 am
Can someone confirm what the Bulls’ overseas fixture list looks like??
Who do they play away from home??
9 Mar 2010, 08:24 am
Jy is ‘n bevooregte man Staal om jouself in ‘n losie te bevind . Ek sal wel ook daar wees maar op die Pawiljoen.
Die Bulls moet net daarop bedag wees om nie met die afskop weer punte af te staan nie. As so iets teen die Stormers gebeur gaan hulle nie die agterstand kan uitwis nie . Die Stormers is op hierdie stadium na my mening die span wat die beste verdedig.
9 Mar 2010, 08:25 am
@wezz: lmao they won their bye by default
9 Mar 2010, 08:26 am
@SpringbokSarah: Thanks to the Reds and the Cheetahs
9 Mar 2010, 08:32 am
@SpringbokSarah: Unfortunately every-ones fans have big mouths!
Some of the Lions’ supporters have started talking their team up after 4 straight losses, and the Stormers have been hyped up by the Cape media and their fans since their first game of touch rugby in their first training session in January.
The Bulls will do well to ignore the hype of their fans and keep their feet safely on the ground.
9 Mar 2010, 08:38 am
I agree, nog baie rugby wat gespeel moet word. Must work on their verdediging.
Four wins from four starts? Make that three, but still top of the log met ‘m game in hand.
9 Mar 2010, 08:38 am
just keep doing what you’re doing Frans and players… dominate the S14…
and really hope you guys travel well and klap the ANZACS at home too…!!
9 Mar 2010, 08:50 am
Well he has to say that, but we all know that he’s sleeping better than any of the other coaches at the moment. And well he should.
Interresting one to throw out there for comment, iafrica.com released their team of the week this morning (courtesy Iafrica.com):
iafrica.com Team of the Week, Round Four:
15 – Stefan Terblanche (Sharks):
He may have his critics and has lost a yard or two of his pace, but he was not out of position once and played a big role in steadying the Sharks’ ship when it was floundering.
Bubbling under: Hennie Daniller (Cheetahs)
14 – Lelia Masaga (Chiefs):
There’s never been doubt about his talent. He’s now hit a rich vein of form.
Bubbling under: Lionel Mapoe (Cheetahs)
13 – Robbie Fruean (Crusaders):
One of the brightest young prospects in this year’s competition. He may well be around for a long time top come and earn more than just a handful of senior international caps.
Bubbling under: Morgan Turinui (Reds)
12 – Meyer Bosman (Cheetahs):
He may not be the most consistent player around, but when he is on song, he is an awesome sight.
Bubbling under: Ryan Crotty (Crusaders)
11 – Bryan Habana (Stormers):
It was an easy decision. Simply the best left wing in the world.
Bubbling under: Jongi Nokwe (Cheetahs)
10 – Dan Carter (Crusaders):
Simply the best!
Bubbling under: Quade Cooper (Reds)
9 – Will Genia (Reds):
Tough call to make and it certainly caused plenty debate. Genia again showed how vital he is to the Reds’ cause.
Bubbling under: Dewaldt Duvenage (Stormers)
8 – Ryan Kankowski (Sharks):
He is playing some of his best rugby at present and if his teammates can follow his example the Sharks will be on the winning track in no time at all.
Bubbling under: Kieran Read (Crusaders)
7 – Juan Smith (Cheetahs):
He was immense on both attack and defence and his return has played a big role in the Cheetahs’ improved form this year.
Bubbling under: Daniel Braid (Reds)
6 – Schalk Burger (Stormers):
The Stormers need his physical presence and overall energy.
Bubbling under: Rocky Elsom (Brumbies)
5 – Andries Bekker (Stormers):
The manner in which he is beginning to ‘throw his weight around’ in the contact situation gives him the one dimension his critics said he always lacked.
Bubbling under: Walti Vermeulen (Cheetahs)
4 – Ben Hand (Brumbies):
This was another very tough decision. Ben certainly didn’t win Hands down.
Bubbling under: Anton van Zyl (Stormers)
3 – Owen Franks (Crusaders):
We did debate this one a bit as well and while WP Nel made some strong claims, the Crusaders prop out-scrummed him (figuratively, of course!).
Bubbling under: WP Nel (Cheetahs)
2 – Deon Fourie (Stormers):
Another position where the competition was tough and the debate lasted for some time.
Bubbling under: Tatafu Polota-Nau (Waratahs)
1 – Ben Robinson (Waratahs):
The front row was a really tough call to make in all three positions. Robinson was up against a World Cup-winning Springbok, who will now find a few dents in his reputation.
Bubbling under: Ben Alexander (Brumbies)
Some food for debate there. Let the provincialism begin!
9 Mar 2010, 08:53 am
Blue Bulls – Season Tickets
Two Jews walk into the Loftus Versveld ticket office and ask to buy season tickets.
The Lady behind the counter asks “Are you circumcised?”
The Jew replies “Yes, of course!”
The lady then says “I’m sorry, sir, but you have to be a complete **** to be a Blue Bulls fan…”
9 Mar 2010, 08:58 am
I met Ludeke at a wedding last year.
A very humble, soft-spoken, decent man.
9 Mar 2010, 09:00 am
Albert Einstein arrives at a party and introduces himself to the first person he sees and asks, “What is your IQ?”
to which the man answers “241.”
“That is wonderful!,” says Albert. “We will talk about the Grand Unification Theory and the mysteries of the Universe. We will have much to discuss!”
Next Albert introduces himself to a woman and asks, “What is your IQ?”
To which the lady answers, “144.”
“That is great!” responds Albert. “We can discuss politics and current affairs. We will have much to discuss!”
Albert goes to another gentleman and asks, “What is your IQ?” to which the man answers, “16.”
Albert responds, “Hoe gaan dit met die Bulle”?
9 Mar 2010, 09:23 am
People
Who the heck is Patrizio.
9 Mar 2010, 09:34 am
well “it is not rock science” frans
nobody achieves anything after 3 games of super rugby.
9 Mar 2010, 09:36 am
@Transformation:
What’s your problem?
9 Mar 2010, 09:43 am
@Tacitus: you have a real problem if you think by posting my thoughts i have a problem.
9 Mar 2010, 09:44 am
@Tacitus: I would like your take on this, maybe staal’s as well?
I think we can all agree that Ludeke was **** at the lions, and i for one shat myself when he was appointed as coach for the bulls….. now the question is:
Was he always a good coach at a bad union
Is he still a bad coach with senior players
Is his success due to the influence of HM
Is his success due to the structures at the BB union
?
9 Mar 2010, 09:45 am
@Transformation:
Why the denigrating language to Frans’s humble, down to earth statement? What need drives you to make such an unprovoked post?
9 Mar 2010, 09:46 am
@brains_trust: Einstein walks further and comes accross R2D2.
“What’s your IQ?”
“Sorry, I’m don’t have a brain, and I need at least half a brain to have an IQ!”
Einstein-very apologetically, replies:”Shame, you must be brains_trusts twin boet. Be sure to convey my sympathy when you see him next!”
9 Mar 2010, 09:51 am
@Tisme:
Was he a good coach at a bad union?
Hell, I think that one is self-explanatory. Nothing has changed, if you look at the trophy closet.
No guys, you will go a very long way to find a better coach or one more in tune with his players.
9 Mar 2010, 09:54 am
It will be four from four after this weekend – 20 points on the log too. Need another 16 to make sure of playoffs.
9 Mar 2010, 09:54 am
@Tisme:
I think the impact of coaches is overrated. In the English premiership they did a study which concluded that the exhorbitant fees paid to club managers are really unjustified, as they had very little impact on the performance of their teams. Instead, it was found that the performance of teams was largely correlated to the amount of money they spent on player aquisitions.
I think what DOES make a difference, is the “fit” between players, coaches, structures, team environment, team culture and management.
Frans fits perfectly into the current Bulls environment. I think he is as good a coach as Jake White, or John Plumtree or Robbie Deans. But I think that Frans can do better in the Bulls unique environment than any of those other coaches would be able to do.
Heyeneke’s brilliance was his ability to build the necessary structures to get the Bulls player base to the top again as well as his ability to emotionally motivate his players. Frans joined them at the right time to continue where Heyneke left off, and is doing an adimirable job.
Pick the most suitable coach, not the one with the best credentials. As an example, what has Robbie Deans achieved with Australia? What has Nick Mallet achieved with Italy? What is **** Muir achieving at the Lions?
Frans could go ahead and build a 10 year legacy of success and achievement at the Bulls. Why? Because he is more SUITABLE to coaching us than the likes of Alan Solomans (who Keo was backing at the time), or Jake White or other coaches of their ilk.
It’s about the right fit, in the end.
9 Mar 2010, 09:58 am
“What have we done? We’ve won our home games. With the greatest humility”
shame then that some, not all, of your fans dont share that humility…
9 Mar 2010, 09:59 am
@Tacitus:
so what you are saying is that a bone-head ******** coach is most suited to the Bulls culture – I AGREE 100%
9 Mar 2010, 10:00 am
@Bill Reyts: ah yes, beaten them before kickoff, always the best way to win a game… still, with four Saffas in control of this one, I guess Id have to agree with you
9 Mar 2010, 10:00 am
@Tacitus: lol…his statement is neither humble nor down-to-earth, in fact it is simply prosaic, akin to stuff like “rome wasn’t built in a day”
9 Mar 2010, 10:01 am
@poppa69: Oh I’m not a Bull by the way! Just know it is going to happen.
9 Mar 2010, 10:01 am
@Transformation:
Get that chip of your shoulder.
9 Mar 2010, 10:02 am
@Tacitus: Thanks for your view
9 Mar 2010, 10:02 am
so what you are saying is that a b0ne-head d-u-t-c-h-m-a-n coach is most suited to the Bulls culture – I AGREE 100%
9 Mar 2010, 10:05 am
KEO is giving away Patrizio’s new album.
Who is Patrizio.
9 Mar 2010, 10:06 am
@Bill Reyts: like you did last year when the highlanders beat them? being the team to beat, every team will raise a notch to try to knock them over..
Tahs a good example, played really well against the Bulls and did trouble them, then they put in that awful performance against the sharks…
while I tend to agree with you that the Bulls SHOULD win this one, nothing is given in a game of rugby… how will the week off effect their timing? has it stalled the momentum they gathered from the first 3 games? will the players be over-confident given the landers poor form last week? will the landers raise their game due to being embarassed about their performance last week?
9 Mar 2010, 10:06 am
Brains trust
Was there ever a more ironic nom de plume?
9 Mar 2010, 10:07 am
@brains_trust: cool comment …
9 Mar 2010, 10:07 am
@Transformation: ag ou transie, you are so negative in anything that relates to the Bulls…… maybe you should give credit where it is due….. ag forget it….
The bulls would rather want to lose one of their home games like the Stormers to achieve something!
9 Mar 2010, 10:08 am
@Dawn: You will like him Dawn. Good looking Italian fellow with a half decent voice. Google him, tall, dark and relatively talented.
9 Mar 2010, 10:09 am
@poppa69: Trust me mate! 20 points after this weekend. It is given.
9 Mar 2010, 10:11 am
@Bill Reyts: 5 from the ref, 5 each from the touchies and the TMO..
I dont think its as clear cut as that, the landers know how to beat the bulls, and they have the size in the forwards to do it…I think it will be a lot closer then most imagine..
9 Mar 2010, 10:11 am
@gunther: whatever? do you want me to call a spade a shovel? – I call it as it is.
9 Mar 2010, 10:12 am
@Tacitus: #30 lol
oh, you saw it fit to also chip in with a cliche of you own (excuse the pun)
9 Mar 2010, 10:13 am
@poppa69: I hope you right.
9 Mar 2010, 10:13 am
brains trust
whatever?
are you like twelve years old ?
9 Mar 2010, 10:14 am
@Transformation: Its pretty cliche calling other peoples cliches cliche rather than addressing what they have to say.
9 Mar 2010, 10:14 am
@gunther: you bore me…
9 Mar 2010, 10:15 am
@gunther: Let him be. It is a waste om time saying anything to him.
9 Mar 2010, 10:15 am
@brains_trust: Oh so very very mature, does your mother know that you blog?
9 Mar 2010, 10:18 am
Brains trust
Keep talking out your bum and I’ll keep boring you,.
Bonehead..
9 Mar 2010, 10:19 am
@Tacitus: I absolutely agree with you on this one
9 Mar 2010, 10:22 am
Good coaches can replicate success at other teams
Mallet being case in point, the Italians have done better than expected – success!
Poor coaches remain poor coaches, and cannot hide behind great systems, players or back up staff
9 Mar 2010, 10:24 am
so anyhow, the Bulls – a very good team.
I think a great deal of credit needs to go to old Wynie Strydom. He often doesn’t get the credit he deserves. The management is top drawer.
9 Mar 2010, 10:26 am
opinions should be based on facts surely…
speculation is based on opinions which are based on speculations…
dit het iemand my geleer lank lank gelede….
9 Mar 2010, 10:28 am
@WOLFMAN21: #45 hi wolfie
, yoh that is a new one. School me, what is there to address in the phrase “get the chip off your shoulder”?
Especially on this blog where it used to deflect any sort of dissenting opinion.
9 Mar 2010, 10:33 am
@brains_trust:
“At least he is not an arrogant ****, Jewish or otherwise!”
He might be a bonehead ********, but he is probably te most down-to-earth, rooted, and quietly confident man I have had the privilege to meet. His people skills are probably his best asset and like Tac says, he is a perfect fit, especially with the current crop of players that make up our squad, senior or otherwise, which is why, to a man, they play for him, the brand and themselves, which is more than a certain coastal franchise to the east of us can say, not to speak of the oke in the south at the tip of the continent blowing a lot of hot air up all and sundries arses- worst of all is having to sit idly by and watch their supporters setting themselves up for hari-kiri mid-year by buying into his drivel.
Respect to Naka and **** for where they are apparently going, given the unique challenges inherent to their situations.
9 Mar 2010, 10:35 am
Burp!
Now.. that was well thought out…..
9 Mar 2010, 10:36 am
Ahhhhh…
The mighty Bulls team set to make it 4 out of 4…..
We will beat these Highlanders by 25 points. (Maybe 30 if you take into account that Cowan is not playing)
I more worried about the Hurricanes the Landers.
9 Mar 2010, 10:38 am
@Transformation: To be honest I was just trying to see how many times I could use Cliche in a sentence. Looking back on it, I could have squeezed in probably two more.
But to be fair, you are somewhat negatively minded towards the Bulls. Is there a reason for this?
9 Mar 2010, 10:38 am
Can’t wait for Saturday…!!! I will also be viewing the game from our company suite at Loftus….
9 Mar 2010, 10:38 am
@Staal: And well delivered.
9 Mar 2010, 10:39 am
You know, I’m the first one to knock Tacitus for his occasional Anti-Stormers posts but really, in this case he’s right. The Bulls are sitting pretty, and rightfully so. They have maximum points from 3 games and I don’t see them dropping the chance of another 5-pointer against the Highlanders. So they could secure a semi-spot before half the season is over.
And you know what? Good for them if they do.
I disagree with his view of the home stretch though. I think that the Sharks are a few “clicks” from gelling and i think that they’ll have a point to prove. Same from the Stormers. They may be in that do or die position that Tacitus reffers to and will have to consider the game an early Semi.
So the Bulls will make the semi’s this year, i don’t think theres much argument about that. But they may not have it ALL their own way. we’ll see.
And regardless of provincialism, they need to be congratulated, not ripped to shreds. We are all better than that.
9 Mar 2010, 10:42 am
Bulls 45 – 25 Landers
9 Mar 2010, 10:42 am
Landers to upset the apple cart, if nothing more then to wipe a few smiles of the smug faces after 3 games in a 14 round competition…
9 Mar 2010, 10:43 am
Bulls 63 – 29 Landers
9 Mar 2010, 10:44 am
quess who is in Top 5 superbru!!!!
9 Mar 2010, 10:44 am
I mean, 3 home games out of 4 all with a SA ref, gees… something about the get the yarpies we constantly hear of that just doesnt sit right with that first sentence…
9 Mar 2010, 10:46 am
STORMERSBOY,
Well said my friend…….
Thank you
9 Mar 2010, 10:47 am
A lot of anti-Bulls sentiment on this blog – mostly from Stormers fans.
Spoke to a fellow Bulls fan last week, and he said that he will support ONLY the Bulls, as the rest of the country’s franchises usually support whoever is playing against the Bulls.
A little over the top, but looking at some of the comments I’m afraid that I’ll have to agree to a certain extent.
However, I don’t see many Lions, Sharks or Cheetah supporters that are so vehemently anti-Bulls. Even the Kiwi/Aussie bloggers are more unbiased than you lot down in Cape Town.
What gives? Does the 75-14 thrashing still give you nightmares, or is it cupboard envy?
Can’t wait for the Newlands match. Going to be a blinder!
9 Mar 2010, 10:47 am
@poppa69: Perhaps before suggestion some improper has been occuring it might be worth seeing if there is a similar patern with other home teams? That would then allow you to see if it was a trend or if the Bulls were being aided in their current success.
9 Mar 2010, 10:49 am
POPPA69,
Are you jealous that your team is not in the same position?
We convert other team’s fans daily if you want to join. We had an initiation just last week of someone who wanted to start supporting the bulls. (Previously a Shark supporter)
9 Mar 2010, 10:49 am
Wolfman
Poppa is playing the devils avocado..
leave him be ..
9 Mar 2010, 10:52 am
Whining whining whining……..
BUUUUUUUUUUUULLLSS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
9 Mar 2010, 10:52 am
@WOLFMAN21: lighten up Wolfman, funny that you guys can cast aspersions of ANZAC collusion, which happens almost every day on this blog, take a look at the Sharks/Tahs thread if you need proof…but when we suggest the same thing its whats been happening the whole comp?
9 Mar 2010, 10:54 am
@Blouboerseun: nah mate, unlike people like kobus, I stick with my team through thick and thin..plus, my team still has more Super titles then you guys, so Im doing fine thanks, and its not the crusaders… and my team is going nowhere again this year, that I already know
9 Mar 2010, 10:55 am
POPPA,
Join us…. I know you want to…. come over to the blue side….
9 Mar 2010, 10:56 am
POPPA,
So you support the blues…..
I loved to watch them when Carlos was still playing for them…
9 Mar 2010, 10:57 am
@Gertjie die Brandweer Ertjie: Its actually true, most non-Bulls supporters will support any team playing the Bulls, even Aus and NZ teams. I know many such people.
I support a SA team against overseas teams, so it grates a bit, but then I look to our trophy cabinet and I feel better.
9 Mar 2010, 10:57 am
POPPA,
The Blues need a new coach I recon
9 Mar 2010, 10:58 am
@Blouboerseun: hahaha I wear a different shade of blue my friend…
look, while I do respect the way the bulls are playing and think they thoroughly deserve their success, its just some of the bulls fans predicting 40 point wins are beginning to sound like a few kiwi fans in that horrible year of 2007…
pride comes before the fall…
9 Mar 2010, 11:00 am
@poppa69: I was actually quite light in my comment! I must have written it in my business tone as I am currently at work!
I don’t believe in that collusion which many people on this blog like to suggest exists. It fits into some of the more obscure conspiracy theories I have heard. One guy I was speaking to suggested that the law changes were made because Brussouw was having such an influence on the game that the Aussies and Kiwis colluded to neutralise him!
9 Mar 2010, 11:02 am
@WOLFMAN21: #57 he he now look who’s got chips on their shoulders…i’m now “negatively minded” towards the bulls, and to think all i have said is that frans ludeke’s assertion is mind-numbing and prosaic.
Just last week i posted that allister coetzee should rather shut up and coach instead of always being in the media telling us that “seven tries were left on the field and he is happy about that”. I guess then i was being “negatively minded ” about the stormers that time
9 Mar 2010, 11:02 am
@Blouboerseun: I agree with you on a new coach… I think Lam is a little too chummy with some of the players…
plus I dont think he has the coaching experience behind him…
9 Mar 2010, 11:04 am
I for one have been anti Bulls because of their supporters and their downright arrogance. They could do with tryingt o follow their favourite platers’ humility – Pierre Spies for instance.
Lately I started watching their players to see if I could pick up any arrogance there to justify my dislike for the Bulls. Being “anti Bulls” I selected Mr. Francois Hougaard, deciding that any man who could wear a mullet like that with so much confidence must be “windgat”. How pleasantly surprised I was that during the first game I nitpicked he helped an opposition player up after he had tackled him, handed the ball to the opposing scrummie when he was bundled into touch instead of throwing in to the signage like most players to eliminate the quick throw in, and was the first to run up to the ref after the game, thank him and shake his hand.
I thought this must be a fluke, so the next game I selected another player. The week after another player. To my surprise the players themselves were all down-to-earth, well mannered, very disciplined gentlemen. Game after game I couldn’t find anything remotely windgat or arrogant. So why the anti Bulls sentiment then I thought? Truth is it was their fans. Loud, brash, rude, and arrogant. I’ve decided to ignore these fools from now on. They do the Bulls brand more damage with their attitudes than good, and promote provincialism by causing a divide amongst SA rugby supporters.
I wish the Bulls the best for this years tournament. To date they have been exceptional and are playing briliant running rugby. So until they face my Sharks, I will be supporting them 100%
9 Mar 2010, 11:05 am
@stormersboy: 60 – Sormersboy. Very well said.
Also your Stormers are looking the business this year. Well done to them on their win this past weekend. Hope to see them in a Semi.
9 Mar 2010, 11:06 am
@WOLFMAN21: all good wolfman… I guess I misinterpreted the tone of your words lol..
Ive heard that one too, like we’d also negate McCaws and george Smiths major assets because we wanted to negate Heinreich (sp?) have to laugh at it all…
feel for Brussouw with his injury, never like to see that with any player..
9 Mar 2010, 11:11 am
The Bulls are at the level where all the other franchises should aspire to! It is fact – this coming from a Sharks supporter means something.
9 Mar 2010, 11:13 am
@Richie_7: Hi Richie, I am too behind the Bulls 100%. They making us all proud mate.
Never knew you were a Shark Supporter?
9 Mar 2010, 11:13 am
We need strong SA Franchises, especially now before 2011. Bulls and Stormers looking the part and Cheetahs starting to believe in themselves.
9 Mar 2010, 11:14 am
@Bill Reyts: Agree 100% and I am to a Sharks Supporter.
Go Bulls and Stormers. Our two best this year. Get behind our boys no matter who our franchise we support.
9 Mar 2010, 11:16 am
@Puma: I’m a Saffa; think my name sometimes suggests I’m from NZ
9 Mar 2010, 11:16 am
Is julle gerook?
9 Mar 2010, 11:16 am
@Puma: I know all the Sharks supporters Puma. We are not performing this year, but each franchise has the right to take a dip every now and then. It is our turn and we will return stronger for it.
9 Mar 2010, 11:17 am
@Richie_7: 82
Ja nee, a mob of Bulls supporters beat up my (then) girlfriend’s little brother in the toilets at Newlands stadium, a coupla years ago.
Blue Bulls are without a doubt, a class outfit… Pity the same can’t be said for the majority of their fans.
Gonna get me one of those “Fifa 2010 World Cup Anti-Stab” vests for the next Stormers/Bulls clash at Newlands
9 Mar 2010, 11:17 am
@Richie_7: Yes you confuse yourself at times
9 Mar 2010, 11:17 am
@Bill Reyts: Bill, Sharks have the players just not sure why we doing so bad. Maybe one good win we may just hit our straps. Would be really great to see 4 saffa teams doing well.
Think Cheetahs are doing well too. Without Brussow they may lose something but still a good side.
Even Lions, everyone having a go at them. I hate to read that, we should always get behind our boys no matter which franchise they play in. Lions are playing better this year and who knows next year they could be right up there.
9 Mar 2010, 11:19 am
@4thWiseMan: LOL Good luck! That said it’s not all the Bulls supporters. Watch out for those painted entirely blue or with a ring through their noses! They always look a little suspect!
9 Mar 2010, 11:20 am
The music accompanying the Bulls brand has made it very hard for certain people to become genuine fans of the bulls. I wont mention any names, everyone knows and in fact, same goes for the music that is associated with rugby for example adds on super sport… they just kill… everything good that you want to take out of the game.
9 Mar 2010, 11:20 am
@Puma: I have no doubt that there is some infighting going on and believe that two brothers should decide if they want to buy in or ship out.
9 Mar 2010, 11:22 am
@Bill Reyts: Bill, We have the players and I have no doubt our team will get back up there. Maybe not this year but we just have to many good players to just stay down.
If we beat the Chiefs which we could have done also if Rory got his kicks over for the Cheetahs game. We just have have had more confidence and less pressure on our tour. May have made a difference.
Now just get behind our boys and support them no matter what, lose or win. Will always support my team. Also all our other saffa sides playing overseas sides. I will always support them.
9 Mar 2010, 11:22 am
@Eminem:
Now that was really a good post.
9 Mar 2010, 11:24 am
@Richie_7: 95
Ya, or those who get that glazed-over look in their eyes when they start singing “Die blou bul eet nie van die vloer af nie!”
9 Mar 2010, 11:24 am
@Puma: Remember the Stormers loosing the close games last year. They could have gone either way. The same happening with the Sharks this year. Loosing instead of winning them. That is sport.
9 Mar 2010, 11:24 am
@Richie_7:
Dude, Francois Hougaard is from the Western Cape.
We raise them well down here!!!
9 Mar 2010, 11:25 am
@Bill Reyts: Plenty going on with the Dup brothers Bill. Heard the Aussie commentators on Saturday saying that the Dup brothers might be playing for the Rebels next year.
Now also read that JdP would wants to carry on with his (Dr career) in Australia. So think that is where they will go, not because they want to play rugby there, but more so that they want to go and live in Australia. They had tried before to play for the Force but could not as there was permit problem. Now with the Rebels they are allowed 10 players from overseas.
We will no doubt see many more saffas in that side next year.
9 Mar 2010, 11:25 am
@Bill Reyts: Thanks. Thats my chief complaint about South African rugby at the moment.
9 Mar 2010, 11:26 am
@wpw: Pity you can’t keep them then, aye?
9 Mar 2010, 11:26 am
@wpw: I thought you were singing a song there for a minute – but get the point.
9 Mar 2010, 11:27 am
@Puma: 98
Hang tight there buddy… The Newlands faithful have had to weather some pretty sh!tty storms in recent times, but things are finally starting to look up. All recessions come to an end. It’s cyclical
(Unless you’re really k@k!)
9 Mar 2010, 11:28 am
Yes what the bulls really need is a third rate white wannabe rapper in a velour tracksuit..
Sorted
9 Mar 2010, 11:29 am
@Eminem: That ‘liefling’ thing just aint rugby Eminem. You should try writing a more upbeat song for them. You sure have the talent.
9 Mar 2010, 11:29 am
you may raise them well in the fairest cape, but we sure teach them a thing or two about rugby hey?
9 Mar 2010, 11:29 am
@Bill Reyts: For sure Bill. Stormers lost some very close games that could have gone either way last year. This year Sharks have lost 3 games that could have been theirs too but went the other way. Makes a huge difference.
Don’t think this team will lose all their games. We will pick up some wins and hope we build next year with some of the exciting youngsters too.
9 Mar 2010, 11:30 am
@gunther: Snap!
9 Mar 2010, 11:31 am
@4thWiseMan: If my Stormers will win as many as The Bulls, then I would also get that glazed look
9 Mar 2010, 11:31 am
@Puma: They will beat the Brumbies Puma and do all SA teams a huge favour.
9 Mar 2010, 11:32 am
Yes what the bulls really need is a third rate white wannabe rapper in a velour tracksuit..
Sorted.,,
9 Mar 2010, 11:33 am
@gunther: You making your point twice I read. Got it.
9 Mar 2010, 11:33 am
@Gertjie die Brandweer Ertjie: You rage on about Stormers fans supporting who ever plays the Bulls…. and as per the responses from Stormers fans on this thread so far, its very easy to see you are talking garbage.
I am deeply loyal to the boys in blue down here, but believe me two of my fondest rugby memories are the 98 zip drilling you lot dished out to the Reds and last years final demolition of that scourge from Waikato.
Now, go across to ol’ GBS’s site and pose the question.. “Who wants the Stormers to get stuffed by the Canes this weekend??”. Then sit back and watch the response…
9 Mar 2010, 11:34 am
Oops
Gremlin
9 Mar 2010, 11:35 am
@4thWiseMan: Stormers were never bad last year mate, lost some very tight games had they won them could have been in a semi.
Now that they are our 2nd best side this year, rooting for Stormers to get to that semi this year. REALLY want to see two saffa teams there. Stormers looking the business playing some good rugby.
Could have won that game against the Brumbies too. Pity about the kick that never went over in the end, but pleased you guys picked up the bonus point last weekend. Those bonus points help towards the end of the tourney.
Good luck against the Canes. Canes will up there game but really cant see them beating this Stormer side this weekend. Going to be close. I say Stormers by 5 or 7.
They look a happy band of brothers too which makes for a confident side too. Good luck to them for the rest of the tourney. I am supporting them the whole way.
My Sharks hope they can pick up some wins. Feeling for the players. They must feel really bad.
Thanks for your support. Much appreciated.
9 Mar 2010, 11:35 am
@gunther: Vanilla Ice would be the real deal…
9 Mar 2010, 11:37 am
@JL1: 113
Surely you mean “our” Stormers
Fair enough.
9 Mar 2010, 11:40 am
@Bod: BOD, Not sure if you correct there or picking you up wrong. I blog there and GBS and all the Bulls supporters are rooting for the Stormers to beat the Canes. Read it this morning. GBS saying go Stormers beat the Canes. They all support the Stormers there.
9 Mar 2010, 11:40 am
I wasnt around here yesterday, so I wonder whether this was discussed at all.
I have never come so close as to throwing a brick through my TV set as I was on Saturday listening to my mate Joel commentate on the Cheetahs game. I am sure he spent the night in uncontrollable spasms of tears after another loss to our NZ brothers.
The ultimate being.. “That WASNT a spear tackle, that WASNT a spear tackle”…. then dead silence after the yellow card came out for the blatent spear tackle.
You just godda love the man…
9 Mar 2010, 11:40 am
@4thWiseMan: #100 i love all these “glory hunters” that want to be associated with the saffa winning franchise, kind of reminds one of manchester united. The strange thing about this whole saffa camaraderie is that when the blue bulls are doing k@k, non of their fans are jumping around cheering the stormers or sharks on, never seen it, don’t think i ever will.
Take Tacitus for instance, comb this whole blog and find a post where is jubilant about the stormers supposed good form. Enough said.
9 Mar 2010, 11:41 am
@Bill Reyts: I hope so Bill, as Brumbies could make the semi. Also hoping we beat the Canes in NZ. That would help the two top saffa sides too.
9 Mar 2010, 11:42 am
@Puma: 119
Yeah, it was a classic case of “close but no cigar”, and even more so in the CC, barring one high tackle…
But so far, I am a happy Stormers fan in 2010.
9 Mar 2010, 11:42 am
@Puma: Its the inner soul that tells the real truth…
9 Mar 2010, 11:42 am
@Bod: Vanilla ice would be gunthers man. Or that guy from Die Antwoord.
9 Mar 2010, 11:46 am
@Bod: Stransky have to admit is one of our worst commentators. Terrible to listen too. Also Bob just the same. Never enjoy listening to either of them.
Now last year a game at the Sharks we had Murray Mexted to commentate. What a breath of fresh air I thought. He was never biased (we were playing a kiwi side) he was honest and has a good sense of humour too. Really enjoy his commentary.
No-one comes close to the great Bill McLaren. He was the best ever.
9 Mar 2010, 11:46 am
@Eminem: 128
Ninja
9 Mar 2010, 11:46 am
Bod
Vanilla Spice would be a rate treat for the loftus faithfull
eish eish baby..
met eish eish baby ..
9 Mar 2010, 11:48 am
@4thWiseMan: That would work
9 Mar 2010, 11:49 am
@4thWiseMan: Shame that in the last min of the CC.
Anyhow you guys must just do it this year. So far Stormers are doing it and really playing well. Many teams will struggle against Stormers this year. Good luck on the away tour too.
9 Mar 2010, 11:50 am
@gunther: 131
When Vanilla Ice was here last year, he only had one concert, for one night only… And where was that? In Pretoria.
I rest my case, your honour.
9 Mar 2010, 11:55 am
@gunther: spot on, spot on.
He was born for the job. Now if only we can prise Steve away and get him down to Newlands…
9 Mar 2010, 11:56 am
@Puma: 133
As an embattled fan, I solely blame Naka-la-kakkie for that incident… Up until this last fixture, I was convinced the Fijian did not want to be here, and therefore displayed a clear lack of interest in the Stormers’ game. If I’m not mistaken, Rassie had to fly over to Fiji to go and fetch the dude last year, cause it seemed like he wasn’t going to come back and honour his contract.
But I’ll begrudgingly admit, he actually looked interested when he played against the ‘landers… I’ll reserve judgement for now.
9 Mar 2010, 11:59 am
Wiseman
I’m from cape town you don’t have to rest anything ..
I am quite sure you are culturally more discerning than the good people of Pretoria
9 Mar 2010, 12:05 pm
@4thWiseMan: OK our Stormers
By the way have we got a song?
9 Mar 2010, 12:07 pm
@4thWiseMan: Good luck for Saturday mate, You have a good team and really don’t need the Fijian too much at all. He cost your side in the CC. I have to admit that.
Okay have some work to do. Catch up later.
Cheers all.
9 Mar 2010, 12:07 pm
@Bod: 98-zip… too many beers too early in the morning, the Reds did score 3 points mate
9 Mar 2010, 12:08 pm
@poppa69: Poppa, just before I go. Never seen all the odi games with NZ and OZ but did see last Wed Nz beat Oz in that one.
So well done to your team there.
How you Poppa? Still goind night shift? Anyhow if you are enjoy your day when it comes.
Need to do some work. Back later.
Cheers Poppa.
9 Mar 2010, 12:10 pm
@Puma: goind = doing
9 Mar 2010, 12:10 pm
bod
Steve’s voice only works at altitude …
Something to do with ultrasonic frequencies
Bats think he is a genius..
9 Mar 2010, 12:10 pm
@Puma: Hey Puma, yep won the first one and lost the 3rd one today.. now 2-1 behind..
dont work too hard Puma…
cheers
9 Mar 2010, 12:10 pm
Well I know the fans don’t get along but I was @ a prime circle concert sunday a week ago,and some bulls players and wives were sitting with stormers players enjoying their fair share of good old cape town vinnie!
9 Mar 2010, 12:11 pm
@JL1: 138
Good question… Do we?
Howzabout “Cooler as Ekke”?
9 Mar 2010, 12:13 pm
@4thWiseMan: Last year it could have been
“You came close, but no cigar”
I like an oldie called “Thunderstruck” should work at Newlands, what do you think
9 Mar 2010, 12:15 pm
@Puma: 139
Thanks mate – gonna be a tough game though, against the ‘canes. Looking forward to the clash.
As for the Fijian… He made a half-decent stand-in for the flu-stricken Aplon, but boy oh boy, how was Aplon’s break at pace when he came on later in the game??!! Why he stopped, I’ll never know. Vark griep.
9 Mar 2010, 12:17 pm
@JL1: 147
How about “Rolling” by Limp Bizkit? It’s got a very tenuous link to thunder (as in rolling thunder), but it’s one of those psyche-me-up-so-I-can-tackle-the-k@k-out-of-someone songs
9 Mar 2010, 12:19 pm
@poppa69: If I recall it was a night game and believe me after 45 ales I cant see, never mind count…
9 Mar 2010, 12:22 pm
The Stormers fanpage on Facebook actually gives fans the opportunity to suggest songs for the playlist on game day – quite enlightened, if you ask me.
9 Mar 2010, 12:22 pm
@gunther: Are you referring the the blind variety or the Eddie Eksteen vintage
9 Mar 2010, 12:22 pm
@Puma: Fancy that we should find commonality on something as contentious as commentator bias and ability, or rather lack thereof.
Whenever I see Joel in person, I have this overwhelming urge to go up to him and tell him that you don’t put the “muckers” on someone, you put the “mockers” on them, unless it is a personal and private joke he insists on sharing with someone incognito.
Old Mex isn’t bad, but he has his moments as well. Guys I personally have a major problem listening to are Owen Nkumane and Broz.
During the UJ game last night Owen was continuously waxing lyrical about Edgar “Ramatlule” while it was Edgar Marathule, and if it wasn’t in the same game then earlier over the weekend a player, I believe it was Aubrey McDonald, while stumbling over his own feet in reality, appeared to have the wonderful feet and balance of “a dancing Lippizaner.”
As for Bob, what get’s me most is his propensity for wanting to come up for players when they, to put it bluntly, make a hash of things. It’s as if he believes he can talk it away.
9 Mar 2010, 12:24 pm
@Bod:
so how did you know it was 45 ales?? lmao
9 Mar 2010, 12:24 pm
Bod
The ones that hang upside down.,.
9 Mar 2010, 12:26 pm
And oh yes, what’s with the hoarsening of the voices when a feat of power is being described. Most commentators are guilty of this, though Owen and Broz again take the cake.
9 Mar 2010, 12:26 pm
@4thWiseMan: Seems fair, we will have to control that Nagalakakkie as he is already a liability and might just lose control with a song like that playing in the back ground
He could easily crack, high tackle and then rip the heart out of the opposing player, beating his chest and showing it to the crowd. reat for PS3, but old alci, Steve Walsh, would sht a mountain
9 Mar 2010, 12:26 pm
*waiting on Tacitus to swoop in and berate us from a dizzying height for hijacking a Bulls thread*
9 Mar 2010, 12:27 pm
Ashwin Willemse should commentate more.
9 Mar 2010, 12:27 pm
Gunther.
In fact lets close this subject now.
The vision of Steve in his Stormers shirt, strolling down the tunnel mic in hand, that woes wiesjoupappa look, exploding onto the turf and booming out some kak liedtjie….
Yeesh, yegads……. The mind boggles.
Zip it
9 Mar 2010, 12:30 pm
@catleya: Aussie commentators are the worst
9 Mar 2010, 12:33 pm
I love the aus and nz commentators. They are way better than our guys
9 Mar 2010, 12:34 pm
@Bod: “wiesjoupappa”
Bwhahahahaaha!
He owns that trademark
9 Mar 2010, 12:34 pm
@JL1: 157
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!
The mental imagery!
Been thinking… There’s a Scottish band called Biffy Clyro, and they have a song called “Mountains”. Also a bit of a psyche-me-up number.
“I am a mountain, I am the sea, you can’t take that away from me…”
Considering it’s the first thing that comes to mind when people outside Cape Town talk about us (Table Mountain, and the sea), perhaps it’s apt, no?
But back to the drawing board, I’m going to give this one some serious thought…
9 Mar 2010, 12:37 pm
@Eminem: 159
Ess-win? Naaaaaai my bruuuuu…
9 Mar 2010, 12:37 pm
@skunkie: Nz commentators are a bit a bore imo (like our guys)
9 Mar 2010, 12:40 pm
@JL1: Yes. Must say old “Kearnsey” and “Mato?” are probably the worst, but somehow they get me to laugh more than our okes. I guess it’s the sheer entertainment value of the kuk they talk that gets to me. And Rod Kafer is probably at the top of their heap.
9 Mar 2010, 12:43 pm
@catleya: I have to agree, 10 out of 10 for entertainment
Listen to Kearnsey do his Scrum technique 101:
“You know that little groove below your but cheek, now that is where the loose forwards shoulder should go in and support you as prop”
9 Mar 2010, 12:44 pm
Andy goode as per the aus commentators. He is probably the only player in the super14 with a comp-over lmao
9 Mar 2010, 12:44 pm
@Eminem: 166
No ways bru… The bias of NZ and Oz commentators alone is worth the entertainment value.
9 Mar 2010, 12:47 pm
@4thWiseMan: He should replace stransky actually.
9 Mar 2010, 12:47 pm
Fdp injured….
9 Mar 2010, 12:48 pm
but maybe ok… give him a rest… better option…
9 Mar 2010, 12:49 pm
@Staal: 172
How badly?
9 Mar 2010, 12:49 pm
Staal
From what?
9 Mar 2010, 12:50 pm
@catleya:
That was hilarious!
Great to see the commitment from all the players. The Stormers look wonderful defensively, but they have a long, long way to go yet. I think the loss against the Brumbies will be their downfall in the end.
And to the guys who jumped all over my post yesterday, I know the Maties were not deserved winners, but the only point I was trying to make was that in time the final score will be the only thing that will be remembered.
And to jump to the conclusion that I was only referring the Afrikaners while I clearly stated ‘rugby players’ is very revealing.
Even more revealing is the swearing and the racist comments that followed and the delicious irony of calling me immature and racist.
That was just to clarify to the mods that I had no malicious intent whatsoever.
It’s encouraging to see that the Bulls have talented youngsters breaking through the ranks and making their mark. They will have to take care of the cracks in their defense before the tour starts though.
The Stormers have had a positive start, but I have a bad feeling that they will not be consistent enough. Great to see Burger back to his robust best, and de Jongh has been very impressive.
As for my Cheetahs, great to see the attitude and hunger, a mid-table finish would be a great improvement. Ebersohn looks a fantastic prospect too.
The less said about the other two the better, although they have been improving slightly.
All in all our rugby seems to be in a healthy state.
Where’s Pissant these days?
9 Mar 2010, 12:50 pm
@4thWiseMan: Yeah but the aussies are openly and entertainingly biased while the new zealanders tend to be a bit more boring in commentary.
9 Mar 2010, 12:51 pm
turned his ankle. if must can play but they thinking of resting him.
9 Mar 2010, 12:51 pm
@Staal:
Vir hoe lank? Ek dink julle gaan hom nodig he teen die Hurricanes.
9 Mar 2010, 12:53 pm
@Die_Valk: net rus maybe die week. sal more besluit.
9 Mar 2010, 12:54 pm
And what’s with the Reds this year? They insist on be-devilling my Superbru. Against the Tahs I went against them and got lucky, but caught a skrik. So I worried a little against the Saders but in the end went against them again to my peril. So thenI went with them vs the Blues and they got trashed. And then, come Blues vs Saders, I reckoned well go with the Blues, and voila- stumped again. So directly or indirectly they’ve cost me minimum 3, possibly 4,5 and potentially like 9 points so far, which if I add it to my current tally of 27,5 would see me right up there amongst the smoking guns, given that my success rate in spite of them is like 76 % or so.
9 Mar 2010, 12:55 pm
STAAL
WTF…. nie goeie nuus nie pel…!
9 Mar 2010, 12:57 pm
OK Ok, enough, just now you all start crying over FDPs injury
I hope it is not too bad, but the rest will be good for our Boks
9 Mar 2010, 12:58 pm
@Blouboerseun: gaan moontlik nog speel die naweek… sal more weet.
maar ek dink hy moet nie kanse vat nie..
canes volg week!
9 Mar 2010, 13:06 pm
@roobarb2:
Oh dear. You’re a Bulls supporter!!
9 Mar 2010, 13:09 pm
Ja rus hom eerder…..
9 Mar 2010, 13:15 pm
9 Mar 2010, 13:17 pm
@Die_Valk: I am a Bulls fan, but must say I have always thought that the Cheetahs play total if not always winning, rugby which is entertaining to watch. Like Province in the days when Carel Dup was still the prince of wings. And the Boks with Carel as coach inhis last game, and under Mallet in that amazing test vs France.
I am so chuffed with what Pieter Rossouw is doing with the bulls backs and the way in which the style has pulled in the forwards as well.
I’m not too worried about the defense. I reckon the opposition have mostly adapted well to the new interpretations as well, and if they hang on to the ball and can take it through the phases, no matter how good your defense, the holes will start appearing. So the trick is for the Bulls to focus on hanging onto the ball and to score more tries than their opponents by finishing better.
The Stormers have been made to look good by all their opponents this year because the opponents have all adopted a more expansive faster gameplan vs them than vs the Bulls due to the the preconceived difference in playing styles of the two sides, and have coughed the ball up regularly through bad finishing and basic errors as a result.
Their acid test will come vs teams like the Hurricanes and Saders on song, and the Reds on the up.
9 Mar 2010, 13:22 pm
Ok, “STOP THE LORRY!!” Who saw the Steve Walsh wink to the Brumbies front ranker after he yellow carded the Lions prop on Superrugby last night!!??? What was that all about?
Tell me there is an investigation into this obvious suspicious behaviour. Pleaseeeee……
This is k@k, we are being screwed over by the Ausie refs and Keo isn’t even running the story.
9 Mar 2010, 13:47 pm
Mr. Vrede
How about a story on Stevie’s wink? any comments from keo on this incident? was he wearing his beer goggles and thought that maybe the Brumbie prop was a blonde bombshell…..i can certainly see how the man boobs could have thrown him
9 Mar 2010, 14:06 pm
@logie_Jumpbuck: always knew he was a winker…..
9 Mar 2010, 14:53 pm
@Blouboerseun:
fourie sal reg wees hy het dan nou net n week gerus, willie hom teveel rusie hy moet sy pap verdien.
9 Mar 2010, 15:05 pm
Negativity from stormers fans about the bulls occurs largely because Tacitus and friends get all foamy about the mouth regarding the anything positive or hopeful from the south.
If you dish it out then you have to be able to take a bit on the chin without crying.
I just rest the first page of comments, so probably the topic has changed by now, sorry for that.
9 Mar 2010, 15:05 pm
“just read”
9 Mar 2010, 15:17 pm
I have just read most of the comments on this thread and i can understand all the anti bulls blogs as for most of the people writing them what have their teams won in the last ten years(correct me if i am wrong)wp/stormers NOTHING lions-NOTHING cheetahs-2cc wins and 1shared with the BULLS sharks-1cc win,the BULLS-2002-2009=8CC finals and the BULLS have been in EVERYONE and they have won 4 lost 3 and shared 1,in 2007 they won the super14 and 2009 they won the super14 and the CC.After reading the other teams records in that period,no wonder you are so anti-bulls and it shows as the posts i read smack of pure JEALOUSY as your teams are winning NOTHING.I still remember the dark days at loftus when the BULLS finished last in the super rugby log as they never won a game but the BULLS overcame these dark days and have 2 super rugby finals victories to theis credit.All i can say is that until any of the other SA teams wins 2 super rugby finals then and only then can can they be classed as equals with the bulls and their supporters,as they have EARNED the right to think that their team is No 1 in SA.MEI BLOED IS BLOU.
9 Mar 2010, 15:22 pm
@blueboy:
Interesting argument …. sounds like I can say whatever i like here then
9 Mar 2010, 15:27 pm
@blueboy: Oh please Bullsboy.
The Bulls are not exempt from criticism because they won the S14 twice.
Other teams are allowed to have pride in their teams and be hopeful.
Nobody is denying the Bulls are a good/great side currently and did brilliantly winning their two titles.
Just stop the crying when somebody exercises their right to say something, especially if all the Blue fans stomp allover the other teams at any opportunity.
9 Mar 2010, 15:29 pm
@catleya:
Yeah, a tough draw the Bulls playing the Crusaders at home
9 Mar 2010, 15:30 pm
@blueboy: #195 two Xhosa guys walk into the Loftus Versveld ticket office and ask to buy 2 seasons tickets.
The lady behind the counter asks them ” are you circumsized”
The one xhosa dude replies “yes, of course!”
The lady then says “i’m sorry, sir, but you have to be a complete **** to be a blue bulls fan”
9 Mar 2010, 15:35 pm
@Transformation:
I saw this joke here this morning.
And here it is, back again.
9 Mar 2010, 15:37 pm
@Dawn:
Ya, except the Jews are now Xhosa
9 Mar 2010, 15:38 pm
@logie_Jumpbuck:
Steve goes the other way.
That’s why he winks at all the players.
9 Mar 2010, 15:39 pm
#197wpI am not slagging any of the other teams i am merely pointing out the facts as they stand at this moment in time,if you take any offence to these facts that is up to you but you cannot deny the BULLS record as that is there for all time in the history books for all to see.MAAK ALMAL BULLE BOKKE.
9 Mar 2010, 15:41 pm
@blueboy:
BEHALWE PEDRIE WANT HY’S MAL !
9 Mar 2010, 15:50 pm
Blueboy….. curious name that.
There used to be a Stormersboy who got hounded off the site after continual bombardment about his nic sending out the wrong signals about his sexual preferences
9 Mar 2010, 15:51 pm
@Dawn: i only just got it on me email, now…
9 Mar 2010, 16:27 pm
@Bod: Nope. Still here. Trying to occasionally be the voice of reason. Sometimes I do, sometimes I’m as biased as the next guy. As for someone thinking my nic sends out the wrong signals, well, I’m a bit surprised, but that’s their problem not mine.
It does get to me from time to time that we are so vehemently anti each other’s teams. It borders on the ridiculous. I’d be suprised if people here would have the balls to say half the stuff that gets said here to my face. Or anyone else’s for that matter. I keep imagining these really geeky guys who never had any sporting talent or ability trying to make up for it on a forum.
I know that this isn’t always the case, but it makes me wonder sometimes…..You know, those with the most to prove and all that…
9 Mar 2010, 16:53 pm
@stormersboy: Sorry…. my memory escapes me, it was in fact a certain CapeTownboy that I was thinking of
Capetownboy, Blueboy…..
9 Mar 2010, 16:59 pm
And here’s the best joke of them all – a million people tell the same joke every week and they still think it’s funny…
9 Mar 2010, 17:08 pm
@Bod: Thought you must have been thinking of someone else.
9 Mar 2010, 17:20 pm
@Staal:
Yes, I believe he rolled his ankle over on an uneven patch of gras on the field- Probably the same place Potties did his ankle which cost him three game.
Hopefully someone will do something about that patch now. It could cost us dearly otherwise.
9 Mar 2010, 17:49 pm
@catleya: Sound like the right time for a conspiracy theory – perhaps a mysterious third force is at work; perhaps the Kiwis and Ozzies have colluded to bring the Bulls Boks down; perhaps it is the Spears (or is that Kings?) trying to get rid of the Bulls so they can take their spot in the Super 15; perhaps it is the Northern Hemisphere trying to ensure that du Preez has no chance of winning player of the year. I personally can’t decided which one it is.
9 Mar 2010, 18:21 pm
Game between Province and the Bulls will be massive. Great defence against strong attack. Can’t wait.
9 Mar 2010, 18:26 pm
@Wp_FanS14:
You are right but I think by that time the Bulls attack will be sorted…
9 Mar 2010, 18:27 pm
I reckon there must be a geyser somewhere in OZ or NZ that is errupting so heavily that it is sucking a hole in the pitch on the Loftus B Field through a connecting channell dug by the Anzacs to spy on the Bulls now that they’ve won the S14 fair and square with all the AB’s participating. It could never be the Bulls groundstaff not filling it to make it level with the rest.
9 Mar 2010, 18:28 pm
@Blouste: It already is blouste.
9 Mar 2010, 18:47 pm
@Wp_FanS14:
Sorry…meant defence…
9 Mar 2010, 18:48 pm
@catleya:
9 Mar 2010, 19:33 pm
Why do people get upset when i defend the BULLS everyone else can say what they like but when i give a few facts a lot of people are up in arms,what`s wrong does the truth hurt.It`s not my fault my team is winning trophies,as i have already stated i remember the time when the bulls lost every game and finished at the bottom of the log and i just had to except it and live with it,so people grow up and admit it to yourselves if your team is playing **** live with it.
9 Mar 2010, 19:56 pm
@blueboy: You have to defend your team at all cost. Rugby is a sensitive issue in SA, but we love the banter.
9 Mar 2010, 20:50 pm
just try and imagine a south african side going unbeaten in the S14.
what a truely amazing feat that would be.
a marker for every other south african side in the future.
already the mindset of sa teams is changing.
no longer content with a 4th place away from home semi…..but now a 1st place home semi .
rugby landscape is changing….kiwis and ozzies just haven’t fugured it out yet.
10 Mar 2010, 01:55 am
…or maybe a stormers fan caught a mole at Goodwood park and dropped it off at the Loftus B field the previous night..
10 Mar 2010, 03:07 am
Express News Service Tags : hp vidhan sabha Posted: Saturday , Mar 06, 2010 at 2346 hrs Shimla:
RAMPAGING BLUE BULLS
With the state government granting permission to killing blue bulls that wreak havoc on standing crops in certain districts of Himachal Pradesh, the issue rocked the Vidhan Sabha on Friday.
On Thursday, The Indian Express had reported that the government had decided to give permission to kill Blue bulls that damage crops in Una, Bilaspur, Nurpur( Kangra), Paonta (Sirmaur) and Nalagarh (Solan) districts, after analysing the magnitude of the menace and the increasing pressure from farmer groups. Divisional forest officers in the respective forest divisions have been authorised vide a notification to issue permits for killing. Only two Blue bulls can be killed on one permit valid for four weeks.
Raising the issue in the Assembly, Congress MLA Mukesh Agnihotri said even after being shot at, a Blue bull has the capacity to run for some distance before collapsing. “In such a condition, when a dead animal is found on other farmers’ land it will create unnecessary problems for them,” he said, adding that the matter needed to be addressed in the rule.
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