Sharks sign Potgieter
14 Jul 2010
Bulls flyhalf Jacques-Louis Potgieter will play for the Sharks in the 2011 Super 14.
Having spearheaded the Cheetahs’ 2009 Currie Cup campaign, Potgieter moved back to the Bulls in 2010 and was part of the team that won the Super 14. But given that Morne Steyn holds a monopoly on the No 10 jersey at the Bulls and the Sharks are short in this position, Potgieter has decided to make the move to Durban.
The Sharks are currently using Steve Meyer at pivot, and while they are losing the versatile Ruan Pienaar to Irish club Ulster at the end of the year, former Springbok Andre Pretorius has also been linked to the KwaZulu-Natal union.
The Sharks play the Bulls this Saturday, with Potgieter starting for the men in blue.
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14 Jul 2010, 10:04 am
@mozez22(mozez22)-87: mike lambie is a personal friend , and the answer to your question is NO
@David(David)-95: lol
14 Jul 2010, 10:05 am
@Transformation(Transformation)-99:
Seriously dodgy. Strongarm tactics.
Who would want to play for guys like that?
14 Jul 2010, 10:05 am
East Coast Radio just reported ” Woman falling pregnant to a pineapple”
14 Jul 2010, 10:06 am
@Brigadier Van Zyl(Brigadier Van Zyl)-84: You’re talking about merging 2 established teams like the Cats and Cheetahs. Before the Blue Bulls there was only Transvaal. So no, the 2 examples have absolutely nothing to do with each other. The fact is, Province have had amazing periods of dominance, just like the Bulls have now. But no-body north of the vaal will ever recognise that. Have you noticed how many province supporters give the other provinces their due and acknowledge that great teams are usually only made great by the great opposition that the they play against? Sadly all too many Blue Bulls posters on this site forget that. It’s just Blue bulls Blue Bulls and the rest is irrelevant. Samprass’ achievements wouldn’t be as great for the fact that he had to bead Agassi so many times (although Agassi also won 7 grand slams and took all 4) etc etc etc.
14 Jul 2010, 10:06 am
@Transformation(Transformation)-99: I dont want the Ebersohns. Quite frankly I am pleased if they choose to stay loyal to the Cheetahs.
They hardly set the world alight. Pity because at Craven Week level, they were brilliant. Unfortunately, they seemed to have flopped after that.
14 Jul 2010, 10:08 am
@capebull(capebull)-103: If it were KFM, it would be ‘man falls pregnant to pineapple’
14 Jul 2010, 10:13 am
Sharks players 25yrs-under
Kankowski
Alberts
Cilliers
Hargreaves
Kockott
Swanepoel
JP Pietersen
Mvovo
Lambie
Mtawarira
Burden
Herbst
Cronje
Mapoe
Ludik
There’s enough there going fwd along with mid 20′s veterans such as Alberts,Bismark,JduPlessis,Sykes,Mostert,Pienaar(dont know if Ulster move is complete yet)
Etc
Sharks need a decent 12 now.
Post 2011 Sharks XV
1.Beast
2.Bismark
3.J.DuP
4.Mostert
5.Hargreaves
6.Alberts
7.Deysel
8.Kankowski
9.Kockott
10.JLP
11.Mapoe
12.????
13.????
14.JPP
15.Lambie
14 Jul 2010, 10:18 am
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-104: The fact is that Wp was dominatnt in cc before 1938, there after the competition was played and won with finals. They since only won 11 or 13 of the finals, the Bulls won 23 of the 47 finals since 1938 @Dusky(Dusky)-106: Stranger things are happening, people are actually still supporting the Lions.
14 Jul 2010, 10:24 am
@capebull(capebull)-108: The correct tally is 23-15 in titles, which yes puts the Bulls ahead, but read my post 92 to get my point. No one is disputing who has won what. No-one ever has. Sadly though, all too often that is the de-facto reason given by too many Bulls supporters on this site for why their opinion is the only one that counts. That was the point of my posts.
14 Jul 2010, 10:26 am
@mshiniwami(mshiniwami)-107: Isn’t Mapoe’s first choice position at 13 ? If so, the Sharks need to endure with him there to develop him for the future.
The Sharks are after Juan De Jongh. With De Villiers back at WP, Juan knows he will take a backseat to the much punted combination of De Villiers and Fourie.
If the Sharks can sign De Jongh, they will have two nice new centers to take forward into the future.
I think Mvovo is more likely to develop into the Sharks first choice Nr 11.
Sharks backline for the future;
15 – Lambie
14 – JPP (but maybe the Sharks will sign the Lions Killian soon)
13 – Mapoe
12 – De Jongh
11 – Mvovo
10 – JLP
14 Jul 2010, 10:29 am
Hey did any of you see the Sharks have signed another Bull !
Their doctor.
14 Jul 2010, 10:29 am
I reckon JLPs move to the Sharks is good for SA rugby and all credit to the Bulls for letting him go.
My main worry is that because the S14 Franchises have just become an extension of the 5 major Unions, the young talent in SA is not being given the chances they would normally have, as Unions focus on signing players primarily focused on strengthening their S14 Franchise. The Sharks is a prime example. They are the only Franchise not to have a CC union partner or partners, so they’ve taken to using the Free State as their feeder. Apart from seriously weakening the Cheetahs franchise of players every year, it also affects the Cheetahs financially.
Most of this is SARUs fault, as they handed the responsibility of managing the S14 over to the major unions at the expense of the National game.
14 Jul 2010, 10:35 am
@Dusky(Dusky)-110: Look, I was prepared to debate this with you in a civil manner until you mentioned De Jongh…..
14 Jul 2010, 10:38 am
Good Buy!
Sharks needed a 10 since Butch James left.
They now have plenty of back up with monty dumond and steve meyer
Also good for cheetahs that ebersohns are staying, cheetahs need to hold onto all their players and they will start being a force.
Sharks dont need mapoe either,
Has he actually signed for the sharks??????
14 Jul 2010, 10:38 am
@sharks_lover(sharks_lover)-101: Thank goodness!
14 Jul 2010, 10:38 am
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-113:
14 Jul 2010, 10:39 am
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-113: I always find it really funny when people start stating which player their team should purchase and slotting him into the team as if it is a given.
14 Jul 2010, 10:40 am
All in all, this is a good move for Sharks. We need a quality flyhalf, we got JLP. Sorted. Let’s move on.
Now, for a quality centre.
Don’t care how we build a team, as long as it’s a winning one…
14 Jul 2010, 10:40 am
This now a better buy than some of the overseas deadbeats!
14 Jul 2010, 10:40 am
I love the way you Bulls ***** and moan about Province and Natal buying players. Tuks get money from the Blue Bull Company and what did they do, bought the whole Grey first team from last year. Oh the Blue Bull academy is soo great, how many of those boys coming through there are from the free state. This is professional rugby, if you want a player, you buy him. STop moaning.
Lionel Mapoe – bids came from Sharks, Bulls and Province
Bulls tried to buy Bismarck and Jannie.
Brussouw was in negotiations with Natal but also got an offer from the Bulls to come play with another Grey boytjie Stegman.
Fact of the matter is over the years the Sharks have been very loyal towards its Free state signings, especially the Grey boys, and it even goes back as far as Ollie Le Roux and kabous.
Just stop moaning about player transfers and contracts being contravened, in the end if a contract is broken it is the players fault for allowing it, but you cant hold it against him if the Union he’s with has him on a 200k a year contract when a certain Blue company offered him R1.4 mil for a year, oh yes and that player is Mapoe.
Good stuff Keo.
14 Jul 2010, 10:52 am
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-113: Told you.
14 Jul 2010, 10:52 am
@GTN SHARK(GTN SHARK)-120: So what you are csaying is that all the boys in Grey were born in FS ?
14 Jul 2010, 10:52 am
@Transformation(Transformation)-99: hahahaha! and sias, the grootbek youngster with “plan a, b and c” was left in the dust as the sharks signed JLP from the bullies (whose whining i am particualarly enjoying today-i respect their rugby opinions and it seems like losing this player hurts, yes please sharkies!).
maybe dolph was trying to help sias by getting him to commit before JLP?
but the cocksure young un who hasnt played superrugby thinks the world will wait around?
bye bye sias, we will still take robert though.
14 Jul 2010, 10:52 am
@WOLFMAN21(WOLFMAN21)-117: Yeah I think we should sign Daniel Carter next year, as well as Mills, Mike Phillips and Paul ‘O Connell.
Next year’s Stormers team:
15 Mills
14 Aplon
13 Fourie
12 De Villiers
11 Habanna
10 Carter
9 Phillips
8 Vermeulan
7 Flo
6 Schalk
5 Bekker
4 O’Connell
3 CJ
2 Liebenberg
1 CJ
Done deal really….
14 Jul 2010, 10:54 am
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-121: Yes you did. And you were right.
14 Jul 2010, 10:58 am
@David(David)-112: oh david, come now buddy.
how many lions players in the stormers team?
how many fs players in the stormers team?
your lot are far bigger poachers even with your franchise “partners”.
count em and weep.
14 Jul 2010, 11:02 am
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-124: but you do realise that holding onto all the centers wp have at the mo will be very difficult?
there is no quick fix for TOO MUCH talent.
you cannot simply rotate as that will destroy continuity. what else? actually HOPE for an injury so all of them will be happy at getting some gametime?
juan de jongh will either be very patient and wait out the hugely overrated JdV or he will make a move.
to the sharks.
or it will be whitehead. or newman.
i will watch with interest.
14 Jul 2010, 11:02 am
@rangerman(rangerman)-126: I thought we weren’t going to go there again… ?
14 Jul 2010, 11:04 am
The Bulls are always setting the pace , for the pretenders, as quoted by the Stormer coach Allister” We are 3 years behind them ”
The Bulls Rugby Union has just announced that they bought the S15 title for next year. Heynecke said ” This was the best thing to do, In stead of spending millions on players like the Sharks. This will ensure that we can all go on holiday next year , and the trophy will stay at Loftus.”
14 Jul 2010, 11:05 am
@rangerman(rangerman)-127: Which is why I am fine with Potgieter going to the Sharkies. Gives the upcoming 10′s and 12′s at the Bulls the chance to play Currie Cup/Super 15 and not head to other teams.
Am excited to see how Brummer goes for example.
14 Jul 2010, 11:07 am
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-128:
i didnt, david did.
really, i dont know what kuk your press feeds you down in the cape?????
but i am always here, ready to pounce on lazy spouting of old generalisations like “sharks are poachers, wp and the other unions develope their own” LMAO!
14 Jul 2010, 11:17 am
@rangerman(rangerman)-127: Check out my post 69. I echo exactly the same sentiment.
@rangerman(rangerman)-131: I don’t car who started it, now go and sit in the corner!!!!
We developed De Jongh. We get to keep him. I’ll personally see to that.
14 Jul 2010, 11:22 am
@WOLFMAN21(WOLFMAN21)-130: ja, i have heard a lot about brummer.
look forward to our game this weekend.
14 Jul 2010, 11:24 am
Yessssssssssss!!!
14 Jul 2010, 11:25 am
@rangerman(rangerman)-133: After my big mouth, I am a little nervous about it!
Will be interesting after the Bulls win against weak opposition last week and the Sharks’ loss to the Griquas.
14 Jul 2010, 11:34 am
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-132: de jongh is practically a shark already.
it will be good for sa rugby no?
14 Jul 2010, 11:41 am
The Sharks need to sign a new coach we are going nowhere quickly with
Plum. We in for another dissapointing season I can see that.
14 Jul 2010, 11:45 am
@WOLFMAN21(WOLFMAN21)-135: ja, i had a KUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUK day last sat.
oh the bleakness
14 Jul 2010, 12:06 pm
@rangerman(rangerman)-136: No no no it won’t nuh-uh. never ever ever (holding my hands over my ears and shaking my head violently)……
14 Jul 2010, 12:08 pm
Look at these tuna fans…already assembling backlines which include players from other unions (those already and not yet contracted)…
JdJ is going nowhere, nor is Whitehead. Bosch or Newman you can have in return for Lambie…and we’ll throw in a box of wine and a crate of snoek for good measure
14 Jul 2010, 12:10 pm
@rangerman(rangerman)-131:
I didn’t mention anything about poaching, just the fact that because of the S14, the major unions are building/buying depth at provincial level. I mention the Sharks specifically, because they don’t have any provincial partners and don’t want any, as it’ll water down the Sharks Franchise earnings and also the Unions. The whole point of a regional competition, such as the Super Series, is to combine a number of provinces into one regional team, which is why the Franchises and National sides fell under a seperate “Professional” arm of SARU. Whilst the current situation might favour the major Unions financially, it’ll affect the availability of young talent to compete at a higher level, in the long run.
14 Jul 2010, 12:19 pm
To put it bluntly, I get the idea that players at the Sharks are more interested in the coin they earn than what they can achieve in the jersey.
Compare them to the Bulls in terms of camaraderie and you will see what I mean.
Their shopping also signals to lower steps on the ladder that there is no faith in the youth structures of the Banana republic.
Since the 1990s, I count at least 5 foreign flyhalves who applied their trade in Durban. At least they signed a “local” pivot now.
14 Jul 2010, 12:32 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-139:
and LMAO!
@David(David)-141: David, you mentioned the sharks specifically as draining another union (also specified) of all its talent.
i simply pointed out that the stormers are even bigger drains on other franchises despite having franchise partners and access to probably the largest talent pool in the country?
so why start your thesis with the sharks taking players from the fs david?
oh, i know why. because it is an old, hoary chestnut and you chose to propogate this myth instead of actually looking closer to home.
the simple fact is that the sharks are a succesful stand alone franchise that do not benefit any other unions but i find it amusing that you think boland gain so much from the alliance with wp.
in fact, the griquas seem the biggest beneficiaries of the constant player drain from fs as their players get exposure in superrugby precisely because of it.
all are not equal, not in life and not in sport. and you cannot legislate equality, you can only achieve it through good old fashioned effort.
again, ask the griquas.
14 Jul 2010, 12:34 pm
@David(David)-141: No I think your point has good merit. The Sharks had a partner in PE but bought them out as it suited them. So now it’s Durban all the way….or should that be (cough) Bloemfontein and Durban all the way….
14 Jul 2010, 12:36 pm
JLP…….. look forward to playing centre or wing or FB…….hell knowing the Sharks you might even get a run at scrum half !!!!
14 Jul 2010, 12:37 pm
@willievz(willievz)-142: ag get off your high horse willy.
recently the bulls bought jaco and habs and juandre kruger and bakkies tried to dash for cash, habs did and so did vic.
frans hougaard comes from the cape and now drives an m3 or a hummer (oh, thats vd heever sorry).
you think they play because they love making you happy?
what a joke.
p.s. JLP was last bought BY THE BULLS mate.
14 Jul 2010, 12:40 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-144:
and soon cape town and bloem and durbs all the way buddy.
@justrugby(justrugby)-145:
hi jr. great signing for the sharks i am sure you will agree?
14 Jul 2010, 12:43 pm
Can anyone tell me what the story behind Steve Meyer is?
He flew back to SA to help the Sharks in the S14, and then for no reason “retired”…only to make a comeback 4 months later
I suspect he was either on “juice” or some illegal substances
14 Jul 2010, 12:45 pm
@Frankly speaking(Frankly speaking)-148: that seems to be the general suspicion.
14 Jul 2010, 12:45 pm
@rangerman(rangerman)-147:
Jokes aside , the best signing for a long time !!!
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