Regan rocks Jake’s comeback
27 Jul 2010
MARK KEOHANE says Jake White won’t coach the Boks again as long as Regan Hoskins is Saru president.
Hoskins on Monday admitted the world champions did not have the best at the helm. But here’s the kicker. In an interview with the Cape Argus, Hoskins said Bok coach Peter de Villiers was no worse than World Cup winning coach Jake White, with Hoskins saying the two were on par as far as coaching goes.
‘We’re concerned about the losses. We shouldn’t change the personnel – in other words we shouldn’t sack the coach. I wouldn’t say he’s the best coach in the world, but I wouldn’t say he’s inferior to Jake White. I’d say they are on a par,’ said Hoskins in the interview. ‘My issue with the coach is his media comments – I think that detracts from his ability. That’s where I’d like to concentrate.’
Hoskins, when De Villiers was appointed, said his own choice was Heyneke Meyer and that De Villiers’ appointment was based on issues greater than rugby. It was a transformation appointment.
Once again Hoskins has highlighted this by publicly saying his coach – the coach of the Tri-Nations and world champions – is not the best in the business. White, though, will feel insulted that Hoskins considers his successor to be his equal as an international coach.
The comment is ignorant and outrageous because you can’t compare De Villiers to White when it comes to technical ability. However, it is not unexpected as there is no love lost between Hoskins and White.
Last year Hoskins said the Boks were a better team under De Villiers than they were under White and a happier team. In a news statement he lauded De Villiers’ tenure as the Bok coach.
White on Sunday told Rapport newspaper that he would apply for the Bok job post the 2011 World Cup, but given the history between Hoskins and White there now seems little chance the World Cup-winning coach would be a consideration.
Hoskins is at the helm for the next four years as president and that would mean the last two would overlap with any new Bok coaching appointment. Hoskins is still a believer in Meyer, and when De Villiers goes Meyer will be the first recommendation.
Hoskins has never forgiven White for what he wrote about his relationship (as president and coach) in his autobiography Black & White.
And to have put it so bluntly in an interview – what he thinks of White as a coach – tells you if it is up to Hoskins, White will remain a part of Bok rugby history and not the future.
This is the fight White will be up against if he is serious about wanting to coach the Boks again.
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27 Jul 2010, 23:30 pm
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-142:
Feared??
I wouldnt go that far.You cant fear a team and expect to win. The Abs dont fear them,as will as the Boks dont fear the ABs as PDV explained this as he jumped on the plane before the first game in Auckland this year.
27 Jul 2010, 23:31 pm
damn quiet tonight. I’m going to bed. Cheers oaks. Till another time.
27 Jul 2010, 23:32 pm
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-147:
Yep understand. The Boks have seen to much yellow of late.
27 Jul 2010, 23:37 pm
@Hurricane(Hurricane)-153: yep, the lawman and his “observations” ..
if ever there was blind “justice”
27 Jul 2010, 23:40 pm
Meanwhile in NZ, 83% of people indicated that they do not believe that foreigners should be able to buy farmland there.
The fascination with PdV continues – 10pics of the unpredictable PdV on NZ Herald online; Boks clearly the most admired team on the planet
Also, you can now see the sum total of Grey-ham Henry’s moves on a one-pager – on a pic there – those are the only moves he could come up with
27 Jul 2010, 23:42 pm
truth of the matter is….
jake brought back the tradition and values of the bok jersey and culture.
ok, he wasn’t the greatest coach.
but..after the dark days of dolfi and corne krige we lost the thuggish behaviour and image.
jake brought back the honour of handing out and receiving the bok jersey.
loyal and revered boks were honoured – no new players every test.
all this counts a lot to reviving the bok brand and pride.
unfortunately i think pdv has reversed a lot of this good work with his bizarre outbursts and general lack of discipline shown lately.
nevertheless, to me, pdv is more of a rugby man than jake.
pity we can’t find a morphed combination of the two men
27 Jul 2010, 23:43 pm
@Hurricane(Hurricane)-153:
I stated before that I wanted the Boks to win Saturday’s game for the Aborigini communities in Australia, but have now diarised it for a future date
I didnt see anythin special in the Wallaby team, our guys were just “gatvol” – a SA expression that means sick and tired
You would be too if you are cheated LEFT, RIGHT AND CENTRE.
27 Jul 2010, 23:48 pm
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-155: “admired” ?
too much lager lawman…
PDV is so popular in NZ, along with Schalk, that they have done some advertising for McDonalds in NZ..
theyre selling
“the krusty burger”
even in Januarie
they were going to call it a happy meal, but apparently the longer it stays digested, the more nausea it creates..
27 Jul 2010, 23:51 pm
Cheers fellas.
Last thought: New Zealand is wrong.
But justice will come. Just like the iwi had to wait all these years for the Govt to reimburse them.
Newspaper headlines 2 June 2025: New Zealand and Alain Rolland apologises to SA Rugby formally.
28 Jul 2010, 00:12 am
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-142:
“The world is in a state of equilibrium when the Boks win.”
Your tiny world is, yes.
28 Jul 2010, 00:29 am
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-155:
Sheriff,i was under the impression that big time movie stars and overseas companies have been buying huge blocks of land and i think it was that the majority of people wanted at least a cap on how much land they can buy. NZ is small country unlike South Africa but no one wants to buy land there for some reason,would you know why?
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-159:
” Just like the iwi had to wait all these years for the Govt to reimburse them.”
I am maori Sheriff and what you are saying is rubbish.
As if you are worried about Maori anyway. But i could be wrong and if you have changed a corner then you should help the coloured in South Africa as well.
You know the thousands that have no running water,power or sewers.
28 Jul 2010, 01:03 am
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-136:
and Ruben Kruger scored (’95). Right ?
and James Dalton scored (’98). Right ?
28 Jul 2010, 01:06 am
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-155:
How do you know this – bored in SA ?
28 Jul 2010, 01:20 am
The rot starts at the top with Hoskins been the chief clown. Too many potical appointments and not enough rugby men in the management setup.
The Bok stops here
28 Jul 2010, 01:51 am
@Hurricane(Hurricane)-161:
Hmmm that was ” Could have turned a corner “
28 Jul 2010, 04:16 am
Please please SA rugby – keep PdV on as coach until after the world cup in 2011. Then we(NZ) may have a chance and not choke in the semi when we meet SA.
28 Jul 2010, 04:18 am
@Monty(Monty)-166:
We choked in the quarters last time,dont look to far ahead of ourselves
28 Jul 2010, 06:00 am
Matter of interest:
Since when that anc poppet Hoskins is called ‘Regan’?
I thought he is called “Oregan’?
28 Jul 2010, 06:03 am
@Black Panther(Black Panther)-163:
I think he emigrated recently to either Oz or NZ, his rugby comments deteriorated accordingly
28 Jul 2010, 07:39 am
Lets just get one things straight…..Jake White is not the be all of coaching. PDV has his faults (numerous to be honest), but so does Jake. Would Brussouw been given a chance under White with his view on the role of the fetcher? Hell no…..and would Smit still of been captain under White even if he wasn’t playing up to standard anymore? I’d take a guess and say yes.
Jake White won the biggest prize in rugby, the World Cup. BUT…what else did he achieve really? Not much to be honest……
That being said I think PDV has to prove now that he has what it takes to make the hard decisions….and he needs to shut up!!!!
28 Jul 2010, 07:41 am
Hoskins is probably the best administrator the game has had in SA for a long while. But his personal feelings is a bog weakness. I personally think he is an ANC puppet but a well organized ANC puppet. I also don’t see White coming back. We need a lasting impact at the bok setup. Not just regarding certain players but regarding structure and the positions that the bok staff should have.
What did Pdiv start his tenure with. Himself, Muir and Gold? There was no analyst, forwards coach, defensive coach, scrumming coach or kicking coach. Only leter did PDiv employ the latter two. We still don’t have a recognized forwards coach!
A structure is needed to make it clear that every bok team needs the right staff from the get go! Jake White brought in more people from the beginning as he new that he can’t do it alone.
In the end PDiv is a BEE appointment, end of story. Alistair Coetzee would have been a much better appointment if they so dearly wanted colour. But I suspect Hoskins is bloody bitter *** who hated the Jake White Coaching team.
Our administration seems to be continually stuck in the amature area!
28 Jul 2010, 08:01 am
@Hondo(Hondo)-169:
sure about that ????
28 Jul 2010, 08:06 am
@Storm Voort(Storm Voort)-170:
What else did he do? You mean outside of picking up a team in tatters, moulding them into a team good enough to win the WC. In the process also mending the image of a dirty bunch of ******** and rebuilding the respect others had for the Springboks…well, not much I suppose.
28 Jul 2010, 09:19 am
Note to Jake White:
Allister Coetzee has called on Springbok supporters to back their team during this difficult time and he is confident the Boks can “fix the potholes” in the home leg of the Tri-Nations.
This is how you do it Jakey
28 Jul 2010, 09:23 am
@PissAnt(PissAnt)-174:
Exactly, I have great respect for Allister and would back him utterly and completely to be the next Springbok coach after Peter de Villiers’s contract expires after the RWC 2011.
28 Jul 2010, 09:43 am
@WP Till I Die(WP-Forever)-175:
Shame on you.
You would see Allister subjected to the same level of abuse shown to Div here!
28 Jul 2010, 09:59 am
Oh and FYI…
Cant remember who highlighted it yesterday but Luke Watson has not been officially appointed captain of Bath (not yet in anycase) – nothing is official as of yet.
28 Jul 2010, 10:13 am
@PissAnt(PissAnt)-174:
28 Jul 2010, 10:19 am
@Dawn(Dawn)-176:
One of the drawbacks of high office, I’m afraid, is that you subject yourself to public criticism.
Nowadays, if I see a post I don’t agree with, I just scroll on by.
My stress levels are great as a result
28 Jul 2010, 10:22 am
this whole thing is just further embarrassment at a time SA rugby does not need it.
Hoskins critices PDVivvy for comments to media and really Jake and Hoskins are not helping the situation by getting themselves in too.
28 Jul 2010, 10:24 am
If it were up to me, Jake, Snor nor Hoskins would be involved. I’d put Morne Du Plessis in charge of SARugby and Meyer in charge of the Boks. Nobody wants Snor and Hoskins there, so who exactly put them there? We need rugby people run rugby. Not useless pawns.
28 Jul 2010, 10:27 am
@garth(garth)-181:
Morne DuP will not touch SA Rugby with a 50 foot long pole.
He tried that once and realised his mistake very quickly.
28 Jul 2010, 10:30 am
@Hurricane(Hurricane)-161:
“As if you are worried about Maori anyway. But i could be wrong and if you have changed a corner then you should help the coloured in South Africa as well.”
Yes yes! Please help!
28 Jul 2010, 10:33 am
“You know the thousands that have no running water,power or sewers.
”
Smelly coloured!
28 Jul 2010, 10:34 am
Jinne.
Some days this blog is a hoot!!!
28 Jul 2010, 10:35 am
most of them have soap, they just prefer not 2 use it
28 Jul 2010, 10:35 am
Anyhoo.
I’ve decided to line the cast and crew of New Moon against a wall and shoot them.
Slowly.
28 Jul 2010, 10:37 am
@quotas_sux(quota_conrad_jantjies_is_jorrie_muller)-186:
And you can join them.
28 Jul 2010, 10:39 am
yes prawn
28 Jul 2010, 11:02 am
PDV shud man up and resign or gurantee us the WC which he damn well cnt .FUKN clown
28 Jul 2010, 11:09 am
@BULLETHEAD Jnr(BULLETHEAD Jnr)-190: why should he do that, because he just lost games to the same teams he klapped last year?
did henry resign when he got 3-0 by pdvor coach jsmit, matfield & du preez last year?
28 Jul 2010, 11:15 am
@quotas_sux(quota_conrad_jantjies_is_jorrie_muller)-189:
Prawn….aich! I think I’ll use that one.
28 Jul 2010, 11:17 am
How does one shoot slowly?
28 Jul 2010, 11:19 am
believe me its different PDV does not knw wat the hell he is doing!! Things will not get any better for the boks while his still in charge. its back to the dark days of 2003. I mean ask the man wat his game plan is and all you,ll get is rhetoric about flowers blooming,pots, pans and moses playing scrumhalf
28 Jul 2010, 11:35 am
You saying JW was tactically astute?
You mean the only coach in world to never appreciate the value of a fetching flank? You mean the coach who only had one – one – tactic which was to boot the ball deep and pressurise. 2006 was as much about how limited JW was a coach as it was about anything. To have relied on Schalk Burger so heavily was pathetic and it showed in those results.
“How to win with 30% possession” by JW.
JW would not have beaten the Lions and if he did, he would not have won the 3N – because he would not have selected Brussouw (“too small”).
Its plainly obvious that the primary reason we were so dominant last season was the emergence of a genuinely balanced backrow. This balance was again lost this year. Finally we could turnover ball and gain parity if not dominate possession. That gave FDP and MS more than enough ball and enough time to work their accurate kicking game and move it around the park with confidence because the ball could be protected.
The only difference is that JW was better with the media than PDivvy.
28 Jul 2010, 12:32 pm
‘the Krusty Burger’ – LMAO
great to Head Snr Coach De Villiers and Schalla dominating the headlines in kiwiland.
28 Jul 2010, 12:35 pm
Krusty the clown, hahaha, Coach De Villiers’ needs a decent PR man, **** he could have such fun downunder with that and bait those ********.
28 Jul 2010, 12:35 pm
whats going on with the sterretjies, looks like scope.
28 Jul 2010, 12:43 pm
@cab(cab)-198:
Al die vloekery
28 Jul 2010, 12:48 pm
oh ja, better try mind the p’s and q’s.
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