WP break Kimberley hoodoo
7 Aug 2010
GARETH DUNCAN reports on WP’s 50-3 thrashing of Griquas in Kimberley on Saturday.
The last time WP bagged an away victory against Griquas was in 2007 when they won 30-25. Since then, WP have had disappointing trips to Kimberley as they suffered two one-point defeats in 2008 (21-20) and 2009 (33-32).
This season, there was to be no upset as WP continued their five-match winning streak. Flyhalf Willem de Waal, who featured in his 100th Currie Cup match, played a key role in WP’s triumph as he kicked 18 points.
Province’s pack also had an impressive display as they out-muscled their Griquas counterparts, creating momentum through strong driving mauls and setting the backline up with quality ball.
A tired defensive effort in the second half contributed to Griquas’ defeat as it allowed WP to score five tries in the last quarter.
Province had a strong start to the match but they lost momentum when No 8 Duane Vermeulen was harshly yellow-carded for a high tackle in the 16th minute. Griquas created chances with their one-man advantage but failed to convert them while fullback Riaan Viljoen persisted with optimistic long-range drop goals when the counter attack was on.
De Waal starred in the first half as he converted four penalties to give WP a 12-3 lead at the break. Flyhalf Naas Olivier slotted one three-pointer for Griquas’ only points of the game. The hosts were also reduced to 14 men late in the first half as wing Bjorn Basson tackled De Waal in the air.
Outside centre Juan de Jongh scored the game’s first try after he dived in at the corner shortly after the restart. From then on, Griquas’ resistance crumbled and the flood gates opened as replacement hooker Deon Fourie, fullback Conrad Janjties, wing Gio Aplon, flanker Pieter Louw and replacement flyhalf Lionel Cronje all crossed the chalk to seal the bonus-point victory.
95 Comments
7 Aug 2010, 16:53 pm
What a game. What a beating. What a team. Prrroooovince.
7 Aug 2010, 16:55 pm
great game Province,what a game .that Mxunyelwa lad looks a real prospect very big about 6-7 tacckles and one huge ball carry in 12 minutes, could be a find,De Jong was good too
7 Aug 2010, 16:55 pm
Front runners by a mile. backs up what I was saying about the Blue Bulls relying on 3 or 4 players to actually give them the greatness, and without them the other players look positively ordinary. WP on the other hand….
Well played boys….
7 Aug 2010, 16:55 pm
PROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVINCE!
7 Aug 2010, 16:58 pm
Paul Bosch the silent hero !!
7 Aug 2010, 16:59 pm
So much quality in our youngsters. The future looks goooood!
7 Aug 2010, 17:00 pm
there wasn’t a bad player on the field for province (at least in the second half) well done province … die currie cup kom weer
7 Aug 2010, 17:00 pm
Wasn’t the score 12-3 at halftime? ‘The hell happened?!?
7 Aug 2010, 17:14 pm
Thats what happens when you have some world class players on the pitch. Aplon, Flo, du Jongh
7 Aug 2010, 17:14 pm
and to think the sharks leaked a whole bonus point victory!
7 Aug 2010, 17:16 pm
And if brussow does not recover soon, Pieter Louw might turn out to be our best fetcter in the country after Flo.
7 Aug 2010, 17:17 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-10: in kimberley!
7 Aug 2010, 17:17 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-10: in kimberley! Provonce are overwhelming favourites!!!!!
7 Aug 2010, 17:18 pm
@BishopsOD(BishopsOD)-8: Wind was strong, Ref was average and Griquas played well until they ran out of juice running constantly into the best defense in the World.
7 Aug 2010, 17:18 pm
How do you think Lambie will go today at 10?
7 Aug 2010, 17:19 pm
WP, the future’s so bright I gotta wear shades…
Lekker gees and lemonade.
7 Aug 2010, 17:22 pm
If you listened to the Bulls supporters last night – before this game they were decidedly nervous.
I think they’re a whole lot more nervous now.
Province produced excellent handling skills in the 2nd half after dropping one or two in the first.
7 Aug 2010, 17:25 pm
lekker, lekker, lekker. So incredibly damn lekker.
7 Aug 2010, 17:26 pm
@Jinx(Jinx)-16: Timbuk3
7 Aug 2010, 17:26 pm
Pieter Louw should be drafted into Bok’s immediately the best No.6 in the country by miles
This trio of Vermeulen, Louw and Louw would annihilate that overrated show pony fandango of Spies, Kankowski and Burger every day of every week including Sundays.
7 Aug 2010, 17:27 pm
@Windhoek.Lager(Windhoek.Lager)-19:
4 sure…
7 Aug 2010, 17:31 pm
Folks, could anyone please explain why we flopped in Soweto?
7 Aug 2010, 17:33 pm
@skopskiet(yliad)-20:
Hi Skoppy,
I agree about the loosies.
Also, I hope you are now beginning to appreciate the value of de Waal at 10 – much better at 10 than Grant with his 10 m touch finders can ever hope to be
And Hoffman should start as well.
7 Aug 2010, 17:36 pm
hoffman is a great talent … but we must also remember that the standard of the CC without the Boks aren’t great … even Habana & january & WO who are off form will shine in the CC … wait for the last few games incl the semi’s & final
7 Aug 2010, 17:39 pm
@BishopsOD(BishopsOD)-22:
I think it was just stage fright. The occasion became too big for them. The Bulls had the advantage of playing there the previous week with all the hype, new stadium, vuvuzelas, first final in years for Stormers/Province etc.
But the guys will have learnt from it. Hopefully it will show in a CC final.
7 Aug 2010, 17:57 pm
Hey you Province supporters – Great win but remember, you are far too close to the ABs……too often flatter to deceive when it really counts !!
Roll on Oct – Bulls vs Sharks fior the big prize !!
7 Aug 2010, 17:58 pm
we flopped in Soweto due to Schalk not being the glue he’s supposed to be cut out to be.
Willem de Waal is a steady journeyman against the likes of Naas Olivier who Province relegated to play for Boland before.
Grant would have had more points on the board and more tries scored in first half already. Bok’s main mistake in last 3 years was to persist with non attacking fly halves in Butch and Steyn and overlook play makers like Grant or Pienaar.
The other tangible fault of Bok’s game plan is rely on Fourie du Preez to control the kick and chase game behind useless combination’s of loose forwards such as Spies, Kanko and Burger.
Since Spies became starting No.8 we have gone steadily into reverse mode, and since Smit has been calling the strategy shots we have steadily regressed into moronic robots playing archaic rugby.
Play an attack minded scrumhalf (not Hougaard) with a running pivot (not Steyn – or de Waal) and a proper combination of loosies like Vermeulen, Louw and Louw behind a front 5 without a dead beat weight anchoring you to the ground like John Smit, and then Bok’s can turn their fortunes around.
Continue with this dead end JW/JS trajectory to nowhere and get beat every time, even at home.
7 Aug 2010, 18:01 pm
lol at anyone wanting de Waal over Grant. De Waal is as limited a flyhalf as you’re ever going to get.
7 Aug 2010, 18:05 pm
de waal is limited, but he’ll kick everything …. almost like kallis in T20 …. mr reliable…its up to the rest to contribute
7 Aug 2010, 18:06 pm
@renoog(silent_shadow)-28: Yeah, he is definitely the one weakness in the province back line.
7 Aug 2010, 18:08 pm
Indeed and to be fair he’s doing a good enough job despite his limitations. I just think of how this WP team could be even better with a proper attacking 10. There’s still so much untapped potential in this backline.
7 Aug 2010, 18:08 pm
@yank(yank)-26:
You’ve got to get there first!
Right now the Sharks are making a meal of it against the Lions.
7 Aug 2010, 18:11 pm
@renoog(silent_shadow)-31:
Not impressed with Cronje, Hoffman looks a much better prospect for 10.
7 Aug 2010, 18:12 pm
@skopskiet(yliad)-27: You posted all of that without foul language
We are making progress
7 Aug 2010, 18:12 pm
@skopskiet(yliad)-27: Skoppies, did you watch the match? Flo was decidedly absent today and Vermeulen hardly played the field on fire. As for Plo, he was better, but still fairly anomymous, apart from his try clinging to the back of the maul, which anyone of ten guys could have scored.
7 Aug 2010, 18:13 pm
@renoog(silent_shadow)-28:
I am sorry but you have no idea – WP hardly ever lost a game when he played for them- Neither did the Free State while he was playing for them – How many cups have Grant won for any team he played in (The answer is zero) – How can you argue against that?
7 Aug 2010, 18:15 pm
skopskiet just hasn’t had papsak yet … which is strange, cause normally he starts @ 12 :00
7 Aug 2010, 18:15 pm
@David(David)-33: I agree Dave. He actually looks out of shape fitness wise, like he is carrying too much weight. Conrad Hoffman I rate very highly. He is a playmaker.
7 Aug 2010, 18:18 pm
@catleya(catleya)-38:
Exactly my description of Hoffman a couple of days ago.
7 Aug 2010, 18:20 pm
I see Deysel has broken down again. Looked like ankle ligaments. Problem with him is he is carrying too much weight as well. The okes reckon bogger is better, but it is a falacy. If he drops 10 kgs he’ll be far more effective. I see Flo was very anonymous today as well. He could do the same.
7 Aug 2010, 18:21 pm
@skopskiet(yliad)-27: I don’t think it’s accurate to say Butch is a non-attacking flyhalf, Bath score bonus point after bonus point with him at 10 and he’s the one who has been keeping it in hand when he’s come on for SA this year.
7 Aug 2010, 18:22 pm
@David(David)-33:
Hi David
Becoming a bit of an intercept specialist – second in 2 weeks. And I thought he was going to be caught before the try line.
Maybe if he has a start in one game, we can judge him differently – but not the quickest I’ve seen.
I’ve yet to see Hoffman at 10 – he definetly seems to be a playmaker at 15 when he comes on.
7 Aug 2010, 18:24 pm
@Robzim(Robzim)-36: Helllooooo
Your team won again!!
7 Aug 2010, 18:25 pm
@Robzim(Robzim)-36: How can I argue against that? That’s some of the worst logic I’ve heard.
How about pointing out that de Waal has looked out of his depth every time he’s played in the Super 14?
Teams can certainly build themselves into successful teams around de Waal despite his limitations. No doubt though that he adds nothing in an attacking sense.
7 Aug 2010, 18:27 pm
@I am a stormer(I am a stormer)-42:
Also at 9. He has a great feeling for the timing of his passes.
7 Aug 2010, 18:27 pm
I’ve watched a lot of Hoffmann and he looks much better at 9 than at 10. Needs to be given a chance at scrumhalf though. Instead we’re turning him into some versatility player. Has actually done well at fullback when he’s come on though.
7 Aug 2010, 18:29 pm
@David(David)-39: I would realy like to see the likes of Hoffman, Lambie, Jantjies, Brummer, Taute, Bradley Moolman, Venter, even Cronje and a couple of the SA Schools boys put on some or other advanced coaching course linked with a skills development program and some physical development work to prep these boys and make sure we don’t lose them.
7 Aug 2010, 18:32 pm
@David(David)-45: He was an Sa Schools and SA u/19 scrummie. I reckon that is probably his best position.
7 Aug 2010, 18:34 pm
@catleya(catleya)-47:
Yep, we need some central planning from SARU regarding skills development for the youngsters.
7 Aug 2010, 18:36 pm
@carol(carol)-43:
Hi, yep we are looking good but it is still early days. The Bulls will be the main competition again this year so next week will be a good pointer.
7 Aug 2010, 18:36 pm
I see Bissy’s been on for less than 5 minutes and given away 2 penalties already.
7 Aug 2010, 18:37 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-10:
still p*ssed that sharks dumped ep all those years ago?
7 Aug 2010, 18:38 pm
@charo(charo)-52:
The didn’t dump them, they just signed their best players and pissed them off.
7 Aug 2010, 18:40 pm
@renoog(silent_shadow)-44:
We are talking about his record at currie cup level as that is all that is relevant at the moment. He hardly had any opportunities at super 14 level.
Sio I am waiting for your counter argument against his achievements at this level.
is all about at the moment
7 Aug 2010, 18:42 pm
@catleya(catleya)-48:
@David(David)-49:
WP have used Hoffman at 9 a season or two ago – he was very nippy.
But there was talk in the off-season that they wanted to convert him into a 10.
But right now, Province seem to be giving Jantjes 60 minutes a game and then use Hoffman there.
But Rickie could become – probably is – the third choice scrummie at WP right now.
7 Aug 2010, 18:46 pm
@I am a stormer(I am a stormer)-55:
Didn’they give him a run at 10 in the warmup games?
7 Aug 2010, 18:48 pm
@David(David)-45:
As you will well remember Hoffie was the regular(starting) scrummie during the 2007 Currie Cup as a teenager. From what I saw then he was exciting and controlling. He made things happen for others and himself and I saw tries by him amd others that stemmed from his quick reading of the game and playmaking abilities. He needs to touch the ball a lot and at scrummie he gets that opportunity.
A combination of an injury and the stupid machinations of the Rassie Coetzee combination shackles his potential to improve at his favoured position and thus restricts the team’s ability to deliver to their potential.
The potential potency of the WP backs screams out for his contribution as a scrum-half. Hougie can warm the cold bench.
7 Aug 2010, 18:49 pm
@I am a stormer(I am a stormer)-55: I realy reckon Province and the Boks are hanging onto RJ for too long now. See the Bulls have been able to rope in Dustin Jinka as a result. Another one with massive potential.
7 Aug 2010, 18:49 pm
@David(David)-53:
they actually paid money for the benefit of not having to play the odd game at boet erasmus.
don’t know where the money eventually ended up though.
things seem to be done differently in ec
7 Aug 2010, 18:53 pm
David, What do you think will come out of the hat tomorrow when P dV anounces his team? More of the same old same old, or maybe a surprise or two like Mvovo and Lambie roped in ? Must say I’d love that but can’t see it.
7 Aug 2010, 18:53 pm
@charo(charo)-59: Your team has done you proud today
7 Aug 2010, 18:54 pm
@David(David)-56:
Not sure – i think maybe in the Vodacom Cup – obviously an experiment that didn’t work.
I don’t think Hoffman is comfortable there.
7 Aug 2010, 18:55 pm
@charo(charo)-59:
R500,000. But as i said, they’d signed EPs best players by then.
7 Aug 2010, 18:56 pm
@I am a stormer(I am a stormer)-62:
I think it was when Cronje was suspended or injured.
7 Aug 2010, 18:57 pm
Super proud of WP Rugby! Finally a win in Kimberly! Leaving Griquas tryless cos that’s how we roll!
So Flo, how does it feel to be a part of a winning team? 
50-3 baby!
7 Aug 2010, 19:01 pm
i’m also a big EP supporter … i like what cancer’s dad did to EP .. old cheeky watson … he even told his son that he’s not good enough to make the EP side …. respect mr cheeky
7 Aug 2010, 19:02 pm
@JL1(JL1)-61:
cheers boet.
2 excellent games this afternoon
7 Aug 2010, 19:10 pm
Can’t we get something done to get rid of the two stooges that did the commentary in the Sharks/Lions game this afternoon. They will drive me away from my beloved sport if they hang around much longer. I almost switched to English Soccer this afternoon. Phew! It was touch and go.
8 Aug 2010, 03:52 am
Does anyone know how Nick Koster is going?
8 Aug 2010, 07:52 am
@garth(garth)-69:
He came on for Flo in the last 15 mins or so. Didn’t really do anything that stood out, but he’s still has to find his feet I suppose.
8 Aug 2010, 08:12 am
Conrad is older then Dewald but surely one must wonder how long it will be before he gets snapped up by another side – he can’t spend all his time warming the bench – he is far too talented for that and it would be unfair to turn him into another Ruan Pienaar!
8 Aug 2010, 08:24 am
watching the wp and sharks matches today i felt a lot better about our rugby.
Without doubt it is the 3 stooges and the same pld same old plod and fat boys club that are the problems…….
we have the talent and skills……we simply choose not to use it.
Can anyone truly say that Plod can play this high tempo game? Absolutely not…..
We must be bold today ….PDV , its your opportunity to make the watershed changes…..
You stand at the Rubicon today PDV……and i have a terrible feeling of foreboding that you may fail the litmus test.
8 Aug 2010, 08:31 am
Well done Province and Sharks. Both impressed me. Gaining more and more respect for Lambie too. I just hope he settles into one position soon. Juan dJ was superb and Aplon makes things happen, just what we need. I hope all three will start for the Boks come 21st.
8 Aug 2010, 08:33 am
@grant10(grant10)-72:
Grant, we all know that JS will start at loosehead with Gurthro being “rested” on the bench, don’t we?
@Sharks Import(Sharks Import)-71:
Ruans problem isn’t/wasn’t just that he was messed around, it was his mental response to it. Hoffman is happy to play anywhere and with there only being 15 run on places available in a Bok side, his versatilty would be a boon in the 22 man squad.
8 Aug 2010, 08:49 am
@David(David)-74: rgretfulli i concur…..
Beast and Guthro will be sacrificed to satisfy Plods apparent refusal to bow out gracefully. So much for him caring about the best interests of the Boks…..its a joke.
Burden Liebenberg….bissy…Gary Botha….chilliboy…..all so much better.
Plod proved 3 was a bridge too far.
So now its the chances of the SA Looseheads to suffer as the sacrificial lambs…..
Amother reason to puke on my Bok jersey.
8 Aug 2010, 08:52 am
@grant10(grant10)-75:
The bok jersey is greater than any player or coach
8 Aug 2010, 08:55 am
very proud of our WP yesterday… they are playing with patience and purpose and a lot of heart… great stuff…
but we still gotta play the bulls and sharks and that is going to be tell us just how good (or ordinary) we really are…
the sharks in particular are looking very impressive…
i wouldn’t write off De Waal too quickly… for such a supposedly limited flyhalf… HE is winning our games for us… not only does he keep our scoreboard ticking with his kicks… but for someone who supposedely distributes so badly our backs are getting plenty of ball and scoring tries out wide… but mostly… he is able to kick us out of defence and onto attack…something that peter grant is simply incapable of…
i also like Conrad Hoffman… he has lots of skills, superb handling and vision… and plays 9 and 10 equally well…
but i would still give cronje time to settle… he is still very young and is growing in confidence… he must just be careful with his intercepts… when they work… great… but his leaving the defensive line creates holes that the bulls and sharks will exploit… he must be careful…
what is cool about everyone having their preferences is the fact that our player depth is really quite good at the moment… meaning several players could play most positions and do equally well…
also good to see Buhle coming on… he’s a pretty damn fine physical speciman and looks like he has the skills too… good to have decent tighthead backup at last… and with CJ coming things looking good all round…
Juan and Gio are pretty special players… i love watching opponents line Gio up ‘casually’ only to see him slip their efforts… reckon they underestimate the solid muscle he carries and are surprised that he doesn’t fold like most small okes do…
good stuff guys…
but…
feet on the ground…
early days yet…
8 Aug 2010, 08:56 am
Morning everyone,
What time is the Bok squad being announced today?
I’ve already checked on Supersport.
Was under the impression, it was going to be after the Sharks match last night.
8 Aug 2010, 08:56 am
@grant10(grant10)-75: No one has ever mentioned Burden until after yesterday, are you okes for real?
Hand those caps out, why don’t you?
8 Aug 2010, 08:58 am
@CoachPete(CoachPete)-76:
And the teams best interests shoud always supersede players personal ambitions.
Sadly this is no longer the case.
The bok set up is same as a Closed Members only Club.
Merit has been sacrificed for ‘aura ‘ and mythical attributes that are extremely subjective at best.
And are being shown up as absolute rubbish as we move from inglorious defeat , game after game.
I , for 1 , now far more enjoy watching the passion and determination shown in the CC…..watching the Fat Boys Club drag the Jersey through the dirt is no longer worth my time…..
8 Aug 2010, 09:00 am
@JL1(JL1)-79: where did i say give him a cap?
8 Aug 2010, 09:02 am
@grant10(grant10)-80:
yes bad coaching decisions and poor play by some veterans yes
but I will still support the boks no matter what
Things will change
8 Aug 2010, 09:02 am
@grant10(grant10)-81: Well you are insinuating that he should play rather than Smit
8 Aug 2010, 09:03 am
the sooner we start listening to some experts the better.
Noakes has written to Hoskins ….see Rapport….
We choose to disregard these messages at our peril….
8 Aug 2010, 09:04 am
@grant10(grant10)-75: Nama1 reckons Ricky is called Plod this site
8 Aug 2010, 09:04 am
@JL1(JL1)-83:
Plod is a liability……currently i would have at least 4 hookers ahead of him…..5 if schalk brits was back home.
8 Aug 2010, 09:08 am
@grant10(grant10)-84: Explain to me why we need to write letters
This same coach said that he was leaving management of players with their respected unions, and that they will rest and condition the players
The more I am thinking about this the more it seems that he has not taken responsibility for anything
Time for him to move on as well
8 Aug 2010, 09:23 am
@grant10(grant10)-84:
What Noakes said a week or so ago was that several of the top Boks need rest. But we all know that.
He suggested 8 weeks away from the game but including a 4 week conditioning programme. That will stand them in stead to go onto the WC next year.
The 3 week break the Boks are enjoying right now might prove beneficial in this year’s 3N – they’ll have renewed energy.
But if they don’t have that 8 weeks off now – seeing we’ve already lost the 3N – things will be a whole lot worse going into the WC next year.
Basically they’re just overplayed.
That’s why I want to see how many youngsters are included in today’s squad when it is released.
But I’m not holding my breath.
8 Aug 2010, 09:40 am
Why is this racial stuff still so prevalent in SA? Seems to me that SASCO need to collectively ‘get a life’.
Students who gathered for Saturday’s intervarsity rugby match between the North-West University and the University of the Free State in Bloemfontein were greeted by an armoured Casspir and police members.
Racial tension was running high at the University of the Free State over the weekend.
Police were called in after the university on Friday was granted a court order in the Bloemfontein High Court to prevent Sasco, an ANC-affiliated student organisation, from damaging property, assaulting or intimidating people.
Security guards maintained a strong presence at the rugby matches on Saturday and were supported by police.
Netball and hockey matches had to be cancelled on Friday after Sasco supporters ran onto the fields. They swore at players and threatened them.
Netball players said they had been frightened and feared that violence would break out.
Sasco said on Friday it was boycotting the intervarsity as the North-West University was “racist” and wasn’t transforming.
But Rudi Buys, student dean at the University of the Free State said Sasco’s actions had more to do with a coming student body election.
University of the Free State rector Professor Jonathan Jansen suspended the student representative council and student parliament on Friday night and banned all party politics for the time being.
8 Aug 2010, 09:40 am
@grant10(grant10)-86: That means Liebenburg must be very far down the list, considering what Barney did to him in the S14…
8 Aug 2010, 09:47 am
@Jim Bobby the Lumberjack(Jim Bobby the Lumberjack)-89: I remember many years ago at an alma mater that shall remain unnamed…
After days of pointless toy-toying and damage to property, certain “protesters” received their comeuppance by being comically “knocked-out” by marbles, shot from hunting “cattys” by naughty students, sick of their shy.te, from rooms on the top-floor of a residence.
Fark, that was the funniest thing…
8 Aug 2010, 12:59 pm
@Robzim(Robzim)-54: We’re comparing them as players and de Waal has been given countless opportunities at S14 and failed for a reason.
I don’t see what counter-argument there is for me to make as your attempt at an argument was just a wish-washy statement stating that de Waal has played in successful teams, nothing about the player himself.
@ufo(ufo)-77: De Waal does distribute badly, yes he passes the ball but the quality is poor as anything. Put a proper 10 there with crisp, fast passing, someone actually reads the situation and passes in front of the player and our backline would start looking a lot faster and potent. You can tell passing the ball is unnatural for de Waal, his passes are slow and wayward, no timing of the pass or reading of the situation like a proper 10.
8 Aug 2010, 21:38 pm
@renoog(silent_shadow)-92:
De Waal is definitly playing a better style of rugby than when he joined WP a couple of seasons ago. I am still not convinced. I believe he is ultimately suited to play his rugby in Pretoria where distribution requirements for a flyhalve is virtually zero, since the only inside centre they had, since I started watching them play around the mid 1970′s, that could actually run with the ball was Etienne Botha.
But, De Waal has definitely shown great improvement.
9 Aug 2010, 07:52 am
@Suidkapenaar(Suidkapenaar)-93: Don’t forget about Naas’ sidestep… every time a play came his way with the ball in hand.
9 Aug 2010, 08:08 am
@renoog(silent_shadow)-92:
well, for someone who distributes so badly… our backs are playing good rugby and scoring tries…
hard to do if the flyhalf is such a bad distributor…
the results speak for themselves… look at our points difference…
i never said de waal is a scintilating flyhalf who would give quade cooper a run for his money… but he doesn’t need to be… it (the system) is working and he (de waal) is a pretty smooth cog in the system at the moment… wiser people than me will tell you “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it…”
i’ve said on many occassions that i’d like to see cronje get more and more time as he grows into the role and eventually starts with de waal as back up…
but the fact is de waal is a key cog in the WP machinery… i think it would not be wise to throw him out…
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