Hoskins must man up
2 Sep 2010
GRANT BALL says that Regan Hoskins’ failure to discipline Peter de Villiers has led to the situation where South Africa is the joke of the rugby world.
When contacted by keo.co.za for his reaction to De Villiers’ latest media embarrassment, Hoskins said he wasn’t available for comment and wouldn’t be in future. This from the president of Saru.
Reports suggest Hoskins has been told by the government – who are already upset with De Villiers for not picking more black players during his tenure as originally promised - to deal with the Bok coach. The official line is that the pending meeting between Hoskins and De Villiers won’t be a disciplinary hearing, but a less formal ‘heart to heart’.
It’s a similar scenario to what happened after last year’s British & Irish Lions series, where the pair had a discussion over De Villiers’s embarrassing media utterances including the racist analogy about Ricky Januarie and the ‘black mechanic/white mechanic’. After that ‘heart to heart’, Hoskins assured Saru’s stakeholders that De Villiers would refrain from this kind of discourse.
However, De Villiers’ first press conference of the 2009 Tri-Nations suggested not much had changed. De Villiers said he wouldn’t be muzzled, he said he was the boss, an outburst that showed what he thought of Hoskins and their previous discussion.
De Villiers must take responsibility for his own actions, but the Saru president is also culpable for the current situation. It should never have got to this point. A strong leader would have set De Villiers straight.
Throughout the 2009 Lions series, De Villiers was out of control. After just one success in the 2010 Tri-Nations, and De Villiers is his own worst enemy again. No other coach would still have a job, yet Saru has allowed De Villiers to continue.
There have been double standards in the handling of De Villiers when it comes to results as well. In 2006, four consecutive Tri-Nations defeats saw Jake White summoned to a meeting in Johannesburg from the Bok camp in Rustenburg, where they were preparing for an All Blacks Test.
White had to listen to all the Bok coaches since Ian McIntosh, with the exception of Kitch Christie (who had passed away) and Andre Markgraaff. The plan was to ‘plot the way forward’ for the Boks. Conversely, De Villiers wasn’t summoned to any meeting with former Bok coaches after the Soccer City fixture, which was also his side’s fourth Tri-Nations loss in a row.
Before the final Test of the 2006 European tour, White was brought home for an emergency meeting with his employers. This is the kind of treatment White had to endure, while De Villiers hasn’t been as controlled.
On his reappointment, Hoskins boasted how his tenure as president produced little controversy. Has no one in the passages of Saru been listening to De Villiers’s rants over the past three years? What must the new sponsors Absa think? Are they happy to be associated with such a loose cannon?
Hoskins has had the chance before, but this is a defining moment. He needs to show some proper leadership and actually make a decision. He cannot condone De Villiers’s public backing of a man up for murder, and after repeated offences, the disciplinary action for De Villiers should be dismissal. If Hoskins decides on any other course of action, then he’s failed South African rugby again.
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1,161 Comments
2 Sep 2010, 05:09 am
declaring war dragon!
2 Sep 2010, 05:15 am
Dammit…this is NOT what we want…we need to keep the clown there! Gives us a better chance of winning the 2011 WC!
Justice for Bakkies, PDV and Bees!
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What a farce.
2 Sep 2010, 05:20 am
Reports suggest Hoskins has been told by the government – who are already upset with De Villiers for not picking more black players during his tenure as originally promised – to deal with the Bok coach.
Wonder if that makes him a racist like some white coaches before him?
2 Sep 2010, 05:39 am
Time to take the Big Top down! Circuses are cruel to animals anyway!
2 Sep 2010, 05:42 am
And I thought that Aplon, Januarie and Chilliboy are much bigger joke at the Test level than PdV the clown,,,,
2 Sep 2010, 05:50 am
Not sure where you going Hondo but remember you get jokes and you get clowns…different animals all together!
2 Sep 2010, 05:57 am
The real issue is avoided, with the greatest depth of rugby players we should not be losing so consistently. It has to be the administrators fault.
2 Sep 2010, 05:57 am
Keo made it their personal agenda to get rid of Div. Lets ve better and support SA Rugby regardless of who the coach or President is. Follow Lead SA
2 Sep 2010, 05:59 am
“After just one success in the 2010 Tri-Nations, and De Villiers is his own worst enemy again. No other coach would still have a job, yet Saru has allowed De Villiers to continue.”
hmmm that is a lie Ball, look at Deans and his record – much worse than PDivy’s.
2 Sep 2010, 05:59 am
C’mon SA, you know he’s the right guy for the job, leave him there, he’s a favourite with the journo’s, the players think he’s a crack up, he’s perfect!
He’s given hope to all the other clowns out there that they too could become coach of the Rugby World Cup minders, what a catalyst, what an inspiration. At this rate, there could be a song composed in his honour, a statue created to celebrate the lessor stance of mediocrity – and that’s been generous too!
There’s still many blank pages in the book of unbelievable quotes by the puppet, his time can not be cut this short, there’s still 14 months before RWC2011 starts for goodness sakes!
Look, at this current stage, all the other teams in next years RWC pool with SA are licking their chops at knocking you guys over, don’t deny them this chance, it may be their one and only of toppling the current minders of Bill.
You mean-spirited people!
2 Sep 2010, 06:00 am
@capeflats(capeflats)-8:
Out yip, lets all jump into the fire as well should we?
Clowns don’t make good leaders………klaar!
2 Sep 2010, 06:02 am
First off just a question , do you believe what happend to Jake was the right thing back then ? And if not , does that make it wrong for PDV then as well ? Was there not an uproar when Jake was summoned from the UK back then ?
Lastly what happened to the open secrets post (I say post cos it aint worthy of a article) of JC yesterday where PDV is a gonna come Sunday ? Seems a rather quick submission a day later. Did u just need the hits to bring the numbers up or was it a genuine opinion ?
2 Sep 2010, 06:02 am
@KiaKahaNZ(KiaKahaNZ)-10:
haha, very funny
2 Sep 2010, 06:03 am
@capeflats(capeflats)-8: Welcome back boeta.
2 Sep 2010, 06:08 am
@capeflats(capeflats)-8:
Fair enough Flats but supporting SA Rugby and complaining about the coach or Administration when we are not happy is not mutually exclusive. You can have both…
2 Sep 2010, 06:12 am
I’m with KiaKahaNZ please don’t get rid of divvy. Coaches are just too P.C these days, we need someone with a bit of character and someone we can laugh at.
2 Sep 2010, 06:18 am
@Kiwisamoan(Kiwisamoan)-16:
Ja but I prefer my coach to be able to…well, coach a little too! I will mail you a Mad magazine if you want to laugh…
2 Sep 2010, 06:21 am
pathetic article!! Grant Ball, Peter de Villiers hasn’t lost to Australia by 49-0, plus he didn’t win the 2009 Tri-nations by virtue of a bonus point, his team BELTED New Zealand 3-0, the won their 2nd game in consecutive years – something Jake White failed to do throughout his whole tenure!!!
Pdv is a loose canon, who seems to have his brain and mouth disconnected but you can’t compare him to Jake White.
2 Sep 2010, 06:27 am
@Kiwisamoan(Kiwisamoan)-16:
Swop?
2 Sep 2010, 06:28 am
@sparticus
Brother you know I vowed to stay away from this website cos keo and his team are so negative.
But its not all doom and gloom. Bring Fourie du Preez and Heinrich Brussouw back into the Bok team. Then they will again beat the AB’s.
Take McCaw and Carter out of the AB team and they are average again.
The Boks are still the team to beat. This is not the year that matters.
Next year is WC and we will see keo eat humble pie.
Keo is the same guy who now canvas for Jake White. But just a few years ago he called Jake White a video operator.
Keo has no credibility as a journalist. I speak to many “real” rugby journalist and they laugh at keo
In their opinion this website is the circus, keo the ringmaster and all the journos here his clowns
2 Sep 2010, 06:28 am
@Transformation(Transformation)-18:
So you like funny little men with red noses then?
2 Sep 2010, 06:31 am
Supporting the Boks and not supporting the coach are not mutually exclusive.
It’s just that with a “normal” coach the whole team will be more professional and will not be in the headlines for all the wrong reasons…….
2 Sep 2010, 06:36 am
Aaaaag jaaaaa…. (said in a tone three octaves above middle C)
Stupid is as stupid does. (As Forrest Gump said.)
SA rugby is transformed. From respected champion to feeble fool.
2 Sep 2010, 06:42 am
@TheTackler(TheTackler)-23:
Nothing wrong with SA rugby
Keo knows the Boks can still win the WC when they have all their top players fit
So fire Div, bring in Jake and it looks like Jake is the Messiah.
The fact is the Boks were not the best team in 2007.
Everything went their bay. As Div always say the ball never bounces for the Boks. In 2007 it did.
We all know when it comes to WC the AB’s feel the enormous pressure.
They ought to win every WC but the enormous pressure of expectation get to them.
Currently only the AB’s can beat the Boks.
Do you guys think keo is stupid?
He knows exactly what he is doing.
The Afrikaans press does not even give Div the **** he is giving Div.
All this negative writing comes from the English scribes. Keo, Rich, Tank Lanning
2 Sep 2010, 06:42 am
@sparticus(sparticus)-12: there was no uproar on this website because KEO wanted Jake FIRED
Mediocrity triumphs
We are not a mediocre sporting nation that
settles for second best. And what the
Springboks have offered in the last 24
months has been second best, writes Keo in
his Business Day column.
An opportunity was lost in not dismissing
Jake White as Springbok coach. One victory,
against an England side whose only success
in their last nine internationals was against
the Boks, has created an illusion of comfort.
The President’s Council determined that
White was the right man to lead South
Africa to the World Cup. They were
comfortable in everything White was doing
and expressed confidence in his so-called
World Cup plan and in his team’s
performances for 2006.
Apparently they also accepted White’s
belief that Santa Claus lives.
Flying White to Cape Town from London to
give him a pat on the back, at a cost of R40
000, was a farce and another example of
the flaky fiscal discipline one associates
with the South African Rugby Union.
The President’s Council, devoid of
individuals with the rugby technical
background, was ill-equipped to analyse
White’s Boks. The structural weakness
within the national organization was again
exposed through the absence of a strong
National Director of Rugby and a rugby
technical committee. It is this Director of
Rugby who should have led the inquisition
into the national coach and Springbok
rugby.
This person should have probed the details
of White’s 59 percent success rate in 37
tests, which is less than the Boks historical
test winning average of 62.24 percent.
White’s success has dropped each year,
from 69 percent to 66 percent to 41 percent
in 2006.
His selections have been poor; his
choice of game plan equally poor and his
refusal to change has stunted progress.
These are all issues a rugby committee
should have dissected.
Why could the Boks only score 18 tries in
their last 11 tests? Why did they leak 33
tries in the same period? What was the
explanation for crushing defeats at home
against the French and All Blacks? How did
the Springboks lose 49-0 to Australia in
Brisbane and 32-15 to Ireland in Dublin?
What technically was wrong with the Boks
in Dublin that Ireland broke the Bok line on
18 occasions? Why were blokes picked and
played out of position all year?
How difficult was White’s schedule
when compared to the demands placed on
Andre Markgraaff in 1996 when the Boks
played the All Blacks five times, Australia
twice and France twice in France? Or how
different was it to Harry Viljoen’s 2001
when the Boks played the French three
times, the All Blacks twice, Australia twice
and a potent England at Twickenham?
How
different was it to every one of Nick
Mallett’s years in charge or even Rudolf
Straeuli’s? The fact is it wasn’t that
much different and ever year the Boks have
a difficult itinerary.
But it is expected that Springbok teams
cope. Only New Zealand can compare with
the production line of talent produced in
South Africa. The expectation on the Boks is
rightfully high and it is unacceptable when
a Bok team gets thrashed twice in South
Africa, as happened against France and New
Zealand, and loses so easily against decent
opposition away from home.
There should be a consequence to these
results, which there was not otherwise
White would not be the national coach this
morning.
Asking everyone to be supportive of the
national coach and to project an image of
sunshine does not address the problems
pointed out in this column.
The Boks, in
2006, did not play good rugby and the
national coach has not once given the
public an explanation as to why this is the
case.
The public should not be accepting of SARU
press releases that state the coach
explained to the President’s Council that
his World Cup plan is on track. What plan?
A
plan that produced three wins in 10 against
the major World Cup opposition?
A plan
based on picking 12 white players out of 15
on average every weekend?
Springbok teams cannot settle for second
best and the paying public should never
accommodate the kind of mediocrity the
well paid White’s well paid professionals
have produced.
In 2006 we’ve been forced to watch a
clueless Bok team and then been subjected
to the ramblings of a coach who has
perfected the art of coming second and
convinced the 14 provincial presidents that
he has actually come first.
The New Year cannot come soon enough.
Enjoy the man in the red suit with the white
beard because he apparently also has a
World Cup plan for White’s Boks.
This entry was posted on Monday,
December 4th, 2006
2 Sep 2010, 06:42 am
@TheTackler(TheTackler)-23: we know how to win world cups….grant stop chasing ghosts! divvy is here till the WC2011 & he WILL bring home the bacon
2 Sep 2010, 06:44 am
when Jake White was summoned (and almost sacked) he had a team in its development phase. That teamn went on to win every possible trophy it could.
The difference here is that PDV already has a world beating team (as they proved last year) and he is not delivering or does he have the balls to make some key changes to give the Boks a fair crack at 2011.
At the end of the day this is a poorly coached team short of conditioning and lacking in application of the new laws. Whislt some senoir player should take resposnsibility the buck stops with PDV, Gold and Muir. All should now receive their marching orders.
2 Sep 2010, 06:45 am
@Transformation(Transformation)-25: the fools writing these articles…or should I say copying them are wanabee sports writers
2 Sep 2010, 06:46 am
25. i wonder who had the last laugh – hindsight is always 20/20 but jake White delivered a world cup with a very young side. That in itself was deserving of longer tenure.
2 Sep 2010, 06:48 am
@capeflats(capeflats)-24: only the ABs can beat the Boks?? apparently Aussie beat the Boks this year, think it was in Brisbane..
2 Sep 2010, 06:48 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-30: I also think Ireland are up 3-0 from memory too..
2 Sep 2010, 06:50 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-30: true didn’t two club team beat the boks in the EOYT too?
2 Sep 2010, 06:55 am
@Kiwisamoan(Kiwisamoan)-32: yep, but some here claim we shouldnt claim those losses, ye are quite happy to label the baabaas game last year as a 4th SA win..
got to admit, these Saffas sure are funny…
and not a clown type funny either (though they do that WELL too)
2 Sep 2010, 06:56 am
@kesbok(kesbok)-29: so who is to say peter de villiers can’t deliver too?
2 Sep 2010, 06:58 am
@Transformation(Transformation)-34: he will deliver 4 sure
2 Sep 2010, 07:01 am
@Transformation(Transformation)-34: @mountaingoat(mountaingoat)-35: and if his car should break down while busy “delivering”, at least he has the mechanic on hand to fix it all
I hope he can get a seat at the Stadia next year, because all the tickets have sold now that SA threw the game at eDEN PARK :OOPS:
2 Sep 2010, 07:01 am
the missing link in the bok setup is du preez
2 Sep 2010, 07:02 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-36: so we’ll be in the final
i love the optimism
2 Sep 2010, 07:03 am
hahha
this website has become such a joke
so Grant..is this what we call a retraction from JC’s article yesterday?
hahahah
bunch of tools
JC categorically stated yesterday that because of his inside information the rest of us are not privy to, PdV will be fired on sunday
2 Sep 2010, 07:05 am
@mountaingoat(mountaingoat)-37: thats the way, pin all your hopes on one player who it must be said, is no guarantee of coming back as the same player… even Brussow, who will be a whole year behind everyone else in regards to the law interpretations, is going to take some time to get back to speed..
lets hope theyre not rushed back too early, would be a shame for SA if these two were to get re-injured when PDV has not spent a lot of time identifying capable replacements…
*crosses fingers*
2 Sep 2010, 07:06 am
34 – he isn’t delivering – that is the problem and at the same time he is ******** up the Bok brand through idiotic comments and not engaging his brain in a proper manner. Not even the players can help this guy. How many times does he need to be disciplined. Its over come Sunday for sure. Logic and sense must prevail here.
2 Sep 2010, 07:06 am
@Transformation(Transformation)-25: your archives always show more factual comparisons to the farce thats dished out by these so called Keo journo’s
never stop
some of us dont always comment here but we do follow the comments to find out the real deal
2 Sep 2010, 07:11 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-40: i tend to agree tht all the supporters saying we just need brussouw back, are disillusioned
but to say tht the lay off will adversely affect them…i dont agree
it seems for the senior players to come back looking better and refreshed they need an injury and not a conditioning program
\the evidence comes from Bissy, JPP , Juan Smith etc.
2 Sep 2010, 07:12 am
@kesbok(kesbok)-41: what isn’t he delivering? so the 4 losses in this 3nations overshadows the 2010 achievements? or should we call 2010 a jake white achievement?
2 Sep 2010, 07:13 am
2009 achievements
2 Sep 2010, 07:13 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-40: If you lose McCaw &/or Carter, you guys will pretty much suck too. Wasn’t that the excuse last year when we beat you three times?
2 Sep 2010, 07:17 am
@vanhunks(vanhunks)-46: yep, but a better excuse then conspiracies and paddy Obrien etc etc huh?
or are you firmly in that camp too… is it normal for SA’s to lay the blame elsewhere then where it should be i.e the players and the coaches?
2 Sep 2010, 07:19 am
44. – for those of us who understnad rugby we can see the writing on the wall with this team. if they carry on like this 4 losses will turn into more. With the depth he has 2 losses might have been acceptable given the injuries. We only have Brussow, Bismark and Du reez out at the moment and Brussouw would not be guranteed a place in any event. Our players are repeat offenders, lack fitness and cannot adapt to the new laws. This is a coaching staff issue nothing else. Finally we need an ambasador for SA not a person who cannot even hold an interivew. I live in Sydney and you should see the stuff they write about this guy/
2 Sep 2010, 07:19 am
@vanhunks(vanhunks)-46: NO, the excuse last year was that the referees were cheating!!!! Ask him
2 Sep 2010, 07:19 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-47: bottom line the n/hemp refs blow a different game..howcome the bulls & stormers ended up in the S14 final whilst playing to the new laws? and all of a sudden we dont know what the laws are come the 3nations? bakkies should come back & headbutt richie
2 Sep 2010, 07:20 am
@Papoose(papaown)-43: what Im saying is, he hasnt played too many games under the new law interpretations… every one else has had a full season to refine their approach..
thus it will take him some time to adjust to the way the game has changed IMO…
2 Sep 2010, 07:23 am
@mountaingoat(mountaingoat)-50: because the Bulls had 11 out of 14 games with a SA ref
not sure how many SA refs the stormers had, but Id imagine it would be quite a high percentage too
as for Bakkies and headbutts, since when has that been IN the laws?
2 Sep 2010, 07:25 am
@kesbok(kesbok)-48: a week is a long time in rugby, but 12 months is even longer…dont be fooled by what is going on currently…jake had his fair share of **** in 2006 but came out tops in 2007…people should accept that coaching the Boks is a k@k job as there are a whole lot of external **** to contend with including your union’s president stating you were a token appointment…so give divvy his chance in the sun
2 Sep 2010, 07:26 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-52: stormers moer’d the choker S14 teams 5-0 with mostly wanabee refs
2 Sep 2010, 07:27 am
Keo and his minions’ bigotry is exposed every year and it also exposes SA’s weakness. Essentially SA rugby is always infighting with racism, provincialism, individual glory, incompetence, politics and corruption all weakening the body.
In NZ, every man, woman and child (and those in between like Tackler) from the Prime Minister to Paddy O’ Brien is a dedicated All Black supporter and will do anything to get their team to win.
That’s why the AB’s are No. 1 in the world. But having the fastest lap doesn’t make you World Champions. It’s often called choking.
2 Sep 2010, 07:30 am
This morning there is new stories about Bees Roux in the newspapers. Reading those stories it seems to me that PdV had his sympathy at the right place.
My question is, is Keo supporting bribers?
2 Sep 2010, 07:31 am
@mountaingoat(mountaingoat)-50:
Carter: World Cup pressure too much
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Dan Carter says the pressure of winning the
World Cup is responsible for the mass
exodus of All Blacks to Europe.
A host of top players, including Carl Hayman
and Luke McAlister, have decided to sacrifice
their Test careers for the opportunity to
play in the relatively pressure free club
scene in Europe.
Carter said moving overseas was appealing
to those players because the weight of
expectation of winning the World Cup was
just too much.
“Since winning in ‘87, we have been
expected to win every other World Cup,”
Carter, who confirmed that he would look to
move to Europe next year, told the NZPA.
“That becomes quite a burden, a real weight
on your shoulders. There’s always that
pressure and it is part of the reason some
of the guys come over here [Europe]. They
play over here for a club. You might play
more games than you would play in a New
Zealand season, but it is more structured.
“You play for one team, week in, week out,
and you are allowed to concentrate on that.
In New Zealand, you play for three or four
teams, the standard changes but you must
always play well. ”
Reflecting on the All Blacks’ World Cup
quarter-final defeat, Carter lamented the fact
that they opted to play a forward
orientated game when centre McAlister was
yellow carded.
“Because we did that, we made it easier for
the French to defend against us. Luke came
back on and we didn ’t change our game
plan,” Carter said.
“We got our second try from a series of
close-in drives but the French defended a
lot tighter after that and we needed to
change it, but we didn ’t.
Carter, who limped off with a knee injury in
the latter stages of that match, added that
they should have attempted a drop goal late
in the game.
“This is something we could learn from the
England side, and other teams over here.
They have set plays for drop goals, ” he said.
“That’s a big part of the game over here,
whereas you go to the Super 14 and you
will probably see two drop goals in the
whole competition.
“We practise drop-goal routines but it’s not
part of our culture. In the situation we were
in, it would have been the most appropriate
thing to do. ”
Carter said he had taken valuable lessons
from the loss.
“I thought it would continue to be plain
sailing but it didn’t. Looking back, I can see I
was vulnerable. Not having had a bad
experience in my career beforehand, I
hadn ’t a chance to learn from it,” Carter said.
“It wasn’t arrogance, it was just that I hadn’t
the benefit of what comes from a huge loss.
I hadn ’t played in the 2003 semifinal (loss to
Australia).
“As long as I learn from this, I think things
will be fine.”
This entry was posted on Monday,
November 26th, 2007
2 Sep 2010, 07:34 am
@Transformation(Transformation)-18:
No you cannot compare him the JW – JW holds a world cup.
Common guys it’s not about colour but about where the national team of this country is heading and regardless of the “so-called” race issue we need to remedy this situation urgently. Other “white” coaches have been sacked for far less than what Pvd has said.
We are playing and looking more a more foolish every week. At this rate what’s going to happen at the WC next year?
Clearly something is very very wrong and no matter where you stand, something needs to change – it’s not rocket science to see this.
2 Sep 2010, 07:37 am
@OhYeah(OhYeah)-58: where is the national team heading? after a 49-0 loss to the sheep shaggers in 2006 where were they headed? …let me refresh your memory…to the 2007 crown
2 Sep 2010, 07:37 am
@OhYeah(OhYeah)-58: have you read the article? Go check for comparisons THERE before you tell me not to compare pdv to jake! I haven’t referred to race in my post i have only listed achievements, so why come to me with race issues?
2 Sep 2010, 07:39 am
Yaaaawnnn!!!!!
2 Sep 2010, 07:39 am
@capeflats(capeflats)-8: Yeah let’s just blindly support them as they go down the tubes and not worry about why theyre going down said tubes. Brilliant.
2 Sep 2010, 07:40 am
@Transformation(Transformation)-57: ja nee! proteas & AB’s kan dieselfde kop dokter loop spreek
2 Sep 2010, 07:41 am
@OhYeah(OhYeah)-58:
here’s the team that lost 49-0 to australia, tell us where this team was going or were you also in agreement with Keo that Jake should be fired?
Springboks: 15 Percy Montgomery, 14
Akona Ndungane, 13 Jaque Fourie, 12
Wynard Olivier, 11 Bryan Habana, 10 Jaco
van der Westhuyzen, 9 Ricky Januarie; 8
Pierre Spies, 7 Juan Smith, 6 Joe van Niekerk,
5 Victor Matfield, 4 Danie Rossouw, 3 CJ van
der Linde, 2 John Smit (captain), 1 Os du
Randt.
Replacements: 16 Danie Coetzee, 17 Eddie
Andrews, 18 Albert van den Berg, 19
Jacques Cronje, 20 Fourie du Preez, 21
Meyer Bosman, 22 Breyton Paulse.
2 Sep 2010, 07:43 am
january played … enough said .. he is hond k@k .. without him it would’ve been 12 – 9
2 Sep 2010, 07:46 am
@kesbok(kesbok)-48: I live in Sydney and you should see the stuff they write about this guy/
Why should we care? Honestly. Why are South Africans so hung up on the opinions the Aussies have? Inferiority complex? We are ranked higher than they are, we have a better win/loss ratio against them. We have a better win/loss ratio against the number 1 ranked team in the world then they do. Oh. Our current coach is way more successful than theirs. Again. Why should we care?
I loved it when Victor Matfield dismissed the criticism of our game plan from the likes of Phil Kearns, etc saying: “I really dont give a damn what they think. We know what works for us.”
See? Not all of us South Africans think the sun shines out of Aussie a-ss.
2 Sep 2010, 07:48 am
If PDV got his way and did not listen to Matfield/JS/J White his team would’ve looked like this :
Rose
Ndugane
Adi
Murruy
Habana
Eal Tollie
January
Johnston
Raubenheimer
Burger
Lobberts
Matfield
Guthro
Chilli
Beast
Then you f0kken braai and drink if you lose by 49 …that team would lose to Border
2 Sep 2010, 07:49 am
@mountaingoat(mountaingoat)-54: and the ABS moered the choker Bokke 3-0 with neutral refs…
but the Bokke only lost because of conspiracies..
bwahahaha sad..
2 Sep 2010, 07:50 am
“Reports suggest Hoskins has been told by the government – who are already upset with De Villiers for not picking more black players during his tenure as originally promised”
You know what, f#*k our racist, anti-white government! Half of those ******* have probably never watched a rugby game in their lives! They are a sad, petty bunch are our politicians! They just want to spite the whites! Who are the vast majority of supporters in the stands, paying money for tickets? Who are the majority of tax payers in this country?!
When is the time going to come when we stand together and say enough is enough! There is currently not one player of colour in the Bok team on merit. Every single one has a white player that is better then him in that position.
If the politicians are so concerned about transformation, why don’t they insist that at least 2 whites make Bafana Bafana? I guess it’s fine to have an all black team but an all white team is racist.
And what if Peter de Villiers chose an all black rugby team? Would the ANC be complaining that that’s racist to whites? Of course not. But when Mallet chose a merit-based side (which of course was all white because whites don’t need advantages – we get in on merit) in 1997 to face Wales, the head of SARU flew all the way their to Sh#*t him out.
Love the “New, Improved” South Africa!!!!
2 Sep 2010, 07:50 am
@I_support_BEES(suffer_guy)-65: january broke the NZ duck
in NZ
2 Sep 2010, 07:50 am
I will say it again, that PDV will take the Boks to WC2011 and it doesnt matter what Keo, Ryan crybaby Vrede, Mrs Grant Balls, JC, Jake White, Heyneke Meyer and Heavens Game do. This website has contributed f all to SA rugby except stirring racial issues
2 Sep 2010, 07:51 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-47: I’m definitely not in that camp mate. I’m a rugby fan and the political poop that’s infesting our rugby is definitely not part of rugby. All I was doing was reminding guys what was happening a mere 12 months ago.
Blaming the ref is what I thought dads do when their son’s under 15/B team loses two in a row.
2 Sep 2010, 07:51 am
@husky(husky)-55: so tell me, the loss at FNB stadium, that was a serious choke wasnt it?
90000 neanderthal fans
the captains 100th test
at altitude
and still they couldnt win..
cough cough cough !!
2 Sep 2010, 07:51 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-68: & the bokke moer’d the AB’s in 2009 3-0 with neutral refs LOL…& the Bokke won the WC2007 with neutral refs LOLOLOLOLOLOL
2 Sep 2010, 07:53 am
@Mighty Horua(Mighty Horua)-71: agree
2 Sep 2010, 07:53 am
Seems like the whole thing is political…about the filthy government and an AA coach who dont believe in AA?? Poor political pawn Div! WO for captain/coach!
2 Sep 2010, 07:54 am
mighty horua ..yes PDV will take us to the RWC .. but he’ll be another Straulli … PDV has no clue!
2 Sep 2010, 07:54 am
@rugbywriter(rugbywriter)-69: And you have your own rugby blog? Rubbish!
2 Sep 2010, 07:54 am
Daar is ‘n gesegde in afrikaans….
Meng jou met die semels dan vreet die varke jou op.
2 Sep 2010, 07:55 am
Isn’t there any more exciting news? Eg ‘Spies spotted tackling tackle bags under supervision of Jerry Collins’ or ‘Morne to attend the Cooper school of stepping’ or ‘Habana will be banned from rugby if ever attempt an interception again’ ??
2 Sep 2010, 07:56 am
@mountaingoat(mountaingoat)-74: shame then they cant be consistent huh, must get tough watching them win something once every four years or so…
lets not mention EOYTs, we all know how you guys choke against NH opposition…
even their club sides beat you
2 Sep 2010, 07:56 am
73 – there was a massive forward pass … Richie’s try won’t be given 8/10 times …& we played without FDP, Bissie & Brussouw. (we also had a off form Habana, Spies, Matfield, JDV) NZ had their best team
2 Sep 2010, 07:58 am
@Staal(Staal)-79: Dog altyd dis: Meng jou met die semels dan bak hulle van jou ‘n growwe broodjie
2 Sep 2010, 07:59 am
poppa, just imagine how k@k the NZ Super 14 teams are … the Bok team who lost to NH club sides consisted mostly of Bulls and Stormers players …. the same Bulls & Stormers who killed every NZ team
2 Sep 2010, 07:59 am
@I_support_BEES(suffer_guy)-82: We lost. Get over it. You sound pathetic.
2 Sep 2010, 07:59 am
@I_support_BEES(suffer_guy)-82: heres some tissues for you…
dry your eyes now.
2 Sep 2010, 07:59 am
@I_support_BEES(suffer_guy)-77: Jake White 49-0
Rudolph:
30–10 to France at the Stade Vélodrome, Marseille
21–6 to Scotland at Murrayfield, Edinburgh
53–3 to England at Twickenham, London
52–16 to New Zealand at Loftus Versfeld, Pretoria
2 Sep 2010, 08:00 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-73: Don’t go that low.
2 Sep 2010, 08:01 am
@I_support_BEES(suffer_guy)-84: bwahahah the bulls lost to my team in the S14, care to change your post now?
pity then that those same bulls and stormers players went 0 from 4 in test match rugby huh?
as for super rugby, my team has won the title 3 times, and they are still ONLY the second best NZ team in terms of wins…
but continue, I enjoy laughing at your lack of logic..
2 Sep 2010, 08:01 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-86: Remember the Boks by 15 at Eden Park?
2 Sep 2010, 08:02 am
boks in freefall
we lose sat all hell going to break out
Damned if we do…..farked if we dont.
The Fat Boys Club calling the shots all the way.
PDV will be a toothless Rottweiler after this….he will just toe the line and refuse to make any changes or rock any boats.
2010….tHE YEAR BOK RUGBY HIT THE SKIDS.
oNLY WINNER HERE pLOD AND HIS BAND OF PIGS AT THE TROUGH.
2 Sep 2010, 08:02 am
@vanhunks(vanhunks)-88: it was a choke wasnt it? they also had 3 weeks to prepare for that game, no travel disadvantage..
what else could it be??
2 Sep 2010, 08:03 am
@Mighty Horua(Mighty Horua)-90: I remember that only too well… still have a chuckle about that one
2 Sep 2010, 08:03 am
its absolutely pathetic that the writer of this article is using this unfortunate incident to justify Pdv being fired.
For starters Bees has not yet been found guilty of murder so until then he is not guilty.
“He cannot condone De Villiers’s public backing of a man up for murder” is bull sht!
Pdv has said he does not condone what happened but he will show support for a man/friend in need of support. who wouldnt?
nobody was there to witness what caused Bees to do what he did so stop trying to make it look like Pdv supports murder or murderers.
Pdv is not the only one doing South African rugby a disservice , idiotic articles like this go along way in mocking the intelligence of the rugby loving public
2 Sep 2010, 08:03 am
@ Capeflats , true I agree with you. They seem intent of ridding PDV and their personal vendetta is costing them , already many think nothing about the credibility of their post’s.
Last year we had Simon going on and on about open secrets and that the senior boks dont back PDV only for them to come out and say the exact opposite and at that time they had no need to say that , its not like they were even asked the question.
Now we have JC saying that PDV is a gonna come Sunday , maybe he is using Simons’s open secret sources ? I dunno , not fun when u have to read thru all the **** , I actually come here more for the bloggers nowadays , cannot recall when last I read a decent article here.
2 Sep 2010, 08:04 am
Poppa how far did the Stormers klap you in NZ? by 30 – 40 points? the same stormers who was killed by the bulls in the Super final (especially WO killing JdJ in just 15)
2 Sep 2010, 08:05 am
@Staal(Staal)-79:
Meng jou met die varke dan vreet jy semels!
2 Sep 2010, 08:05 am
@I_support_BEES(suffer_guy)-77: he has no clue yes, but do make time to read up on his resume…taken divvy vs jake at the same time in their careers when both were appointed Bok coach I would say divvy the more successful
2 Sep 2010, 08:06 am
@boktillzero(boktillzero)-94: I agree , thats what I have been trying to argue as well yesterday. He never backed the action , he just said that the players need to be focused ahead and that things like the Bees incident is the sad reality we face in SA and that he feels bad for what is happening to Bees. He also states that he does not condone what he did , just that it happened and according to the reports the Bees incident is a case of self defense.
2 Sep 2010, 08:07 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-92: I wasn’t referring to the rugby, but the Neanderthal comment.
I still can’t believe I dated a kiwi
2 Sep 2010, 08:08 am
@I_support_BEES(suffer_guy)-96: doesnt matter, your post said the Bulls and Stormers killed all NZ teams, I was correcting you..
the blues absolutely smashed the Bulls, made their forwards look powder puff that day… and then mealamu continued that form into the test arena, unlike your bulls and stormers players who are too tired, even though they have played maybe one or two more games..
or was it the bulls players were just missing their mummies that day?
so tell me, take the stormers and bulls, how many super titles do they have between them? 3 is it? (2.5 really, 07 wasnt really a super comp)..
lets see now, how many have the Blues and Crusaders won? 10 you say..
2 Sep 2010, 08:08 am
@mountaingoat(mountaingoat)-98: Please dont cloud their argument with facts.
2 Sep 2010, 08:08 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-73:
I usually try not to respond to sad baiting on websites such as this, but with you I will make an exception.
I know for a fact that we have never met, but seeing that I was at FNB to watch the game two weeks ago, I am labelled a neanderthal by you? On what basis do you insult me like that.
I have been to NZ a few times, I have family there, and all the times I have been there I have always come home thinking that NZ’ers are some of the friendliest people in the world.
What is you problem then? Posting on a South African rugby website and insulting all and sundry seems a sad way to spend your time.
2 Sep 2010, 08:08 am
PDV won’t win us the RWC …. jake did. as simple as that. Also PDV inhereted a world nr 1 team .. anyone could’ve taken over and done well. Now that there are some crack, PDV look really k@k
2 Sep 2010, 08:10 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-101: True bit in recent years which teams seem to dominate ? Agree Crusaders and Blues were champ teams and may even be so again next year but the last few years belonged to SA teams.
One or two games extra by the way if its a semi and a final does make the world of difference. U know that.
2 Sep 2010, 08:11 am
@I_support_BEES(suffer_guy)-104: Its spelled “inherited”.
2 Sep 2010, 08:11 am
@vanhunks(vanhunks)-100: being a bit precious arent we? Ive seen much worse insinuation levelled at aussies and kiwis on this blog…
and besides, inm the rarefied air at altitude not a lot of oxygen reaches the brain, explains memorable moments like van Zyls wonderful copntribution to rugby and conspiracies, dont you think?
2 Sep 2010, 08:12 am
so poppa now you talk about titles etc … yet NZ has only won the RWC once (when Boks weren’t there – it doesn’t count) .. its like a boxer calling himself world champ without winning the ultimate title
2 Sep 2010, 08:12 am
@sparticus(sparticus)-99:
i know its a real shame that the keo writers hatred for Pdv has clouded their intelligence. Do they really need to twist facts to create news?
The boks turned around a series of losses last week which hopefully marks the start of a winning streak but reading the articles on this site you’d think the boks have lost all their games since Pdv took over.
2 Sep 2010, 08:13 am
Taahirah ..well done, a golden star for you .. now get off google boet
2 Sep 2010, 08:14 am
@I_support_BEES(suffer_guy)-104: PDV will take the Boks further as compared to Rudolf
2 Sep 2010, 08:14 am
@I_support_BEES(suffer_guy)-104: so you’re a fortune teller by trade?
2 Sep 2010, 08:15 am
Wium Basson – good player
2 Sep 2010, 08:15 am
@Craven(Craven)-103: no problem at all mate, just enjoying returning serve…
2 Sep 2010, 08:17 am
@I_support_BEES(suffer_guy)-108: true..
we may have won a world cup when SA wasnt there, but we didnt exclude SA from that cup..
seems the world excluded SA for some reason, do you know what it was? please enlighten me…
2 Sep 2010, 08:18 am
i cannot wait to sit on edenpark to watch the boks contest the WC2011 final against france..whoop whoop
2 Sep 2010, 08:19 am
@I_support_BEES(suffer_guy)-104: Erm he did not inherit that team , he actually flew over to France to bring back Smit and Matfield for starters.
Also lets looks at that team vs the current one and see who played than and now.
15 – Steyn , Aplon , Kirch – None of them played in 07 @ FB
14 – JP , Aplon – JP played in 07
13 – Fourie , De Jongh – Fourie played in 07
12 – JDV , De Jongh and WO – JDV played very briefly
11 – Habana – Habana played
10 – Steyn – Did not play in 07
9 – Ruan , Hougaard – Did not play in 07
8 – spies , Did not play in 07
7 – Juan – Did play in 07
6 – Schalk – Did play in 07
5 – Matfield – Did play in 07
4 – Danie – Did not play at 4 in 07
3 – Jannie Dup – Did he play ? Dont recall , was it not BJ ?
2 – Smit – Did play
1 – Guthroe – Did not play.
So it seems that PDV only really inherited Fourie , JP , JDV , Habana , Juan , Schalk , Matfield and Smit.
Of the lot , JDV only played a handful of games , Schalk missed the bulk of last year while his replacement Broussouw was phenominal , Juan was off for extended periods as well , which leave us with ? Smit , Matfield and Habana ??
Now Did smit and matfield actually not leave SA after the last WC ? Did PDV not go over to Europe to fetch them ? Hardly seems that the WC team fell into his lap.
2 Sep 2010, 08:19 am
@sparticus(sparticus)-105: so why arent the ABS tired? they played more tests then you guys last year, one less game this year in Super rugby, but they look anything but tired..
why do the SA players look dead on their feet? why blame tiredness when most guys play about the same number of games overall each year?
2 Sep 2010, 08:23 am
@mountaingoat(mountaingoat)-116: yep, we heard that this year about SAs domination before the 3Ns, that went well didnt it?… keep believing you guys are already in the WC final… thing is, you will have to beat Ireland and either NZ or France just to make the final, bit harder then Fiji and Argentina huh?
hell some here think you guys have it won already… me, Im just enjoying the moment in the sun after winning THIS years 3Ns..
next years tourney is just that, NEXT years..
2 Sep 2010, 08:23 am
sparticus
what was PDV’s words when he took over ? He said the KIND of rugby he has in mind for the Boks includes brilliant players such as :
1. Earl
2. Lobberts
3. Eal Tollie
that is a fact … where are they today? they’re lucky they have CC caps. The media/(and crowds) forced the inclusion of Brussouw & M Steyn
2 Sep 2010, 08:25 am
@sparticus(sparticus)-117:
Lots of errors in your post!
2 Sep 2010, 08:25 am
@sparticus(sparticus)-117: Eish, you really shouldnt take time out to preach to the educationally-challenged. You could mention that Jake “inhereted” (his spelling, not mine) players like Matfield, Smit, Danie, Percy, Ashwin, Jaque, Jean, Schalk, Juan, Habana, Bakkies,the list goes on. Pointing out his stupidity is like canned lion hunting. Just not fair.
2 Sep 2010, 08:26 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-118: with all the achievements in 2009 by the Boks incl the S14 in 2010 i would like to believe the SA players deserve a break…since S14 2009 the chokers have pretty much just had to play in the 2009 EOYT as they ‘took a break from rugby’ for bulk of the past 12 months
next yr they’ll be tired LMAO
2 Sep 2010, 08:27 am
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-122: where in Sydney are you?
2 Sep 2010, 08:27 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-118: To be fair. The top Boks also competed in the last rounds of the Currie Cup and the play-offs. I believe the NPC was already done and dusted when the ABs returned?
2 Sep 2010, 08:29 am
@mountaingoat(mountaingoat)-123: all the achievements?
losing to Ireland for the third straight time?
losing to two club sides?
they didnt need rest, they wanted to hide their embarassment
lmao
2 Sep 2010, 08:29 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-124: Im not, Im in Pretoria. The name? Its Arabic, think it means ‘shining light” or something like that.
2 Sep 2010, 08:31 am
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-125: but then, on this blog especially, all we’ve heard is the incredible depth in SA rubgy.. why then have the same players been needed, surely with all this depth it doesnt matter WHO plays for the Bokkes?
2 Sep 2010, 08:31 am
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-125: the NPC is like the varsity cup in SA
just the guys are older & bigger
2 Sep 2010, 08:32 am
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-127: yeah, it sort of has a NSW Tahs feel to the name… sorry
2 Sep 2010, 08:32 am
Bees ‘was being blackmailed’
6 minutes ago
A Pretoria strip-club owner has alleged that Blue Bulls prop Bees Roux was blackmailed by corrupt metro cops after leaving the club
GO BEES!!! give the guy a Bells! … pick the guy for the World Cup … we all knew there were more to the story
2 Sep 2010, 08:33 am
@mountaingoat(mountaingoat)-129: yep, and as your youth team has shown in the world cup the last few years, the varsity cup isnt very good is it?..
2 Sep 2010, 08:37 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-128: No Poppa, not trying to make excuses. The ABs came out very strong this year. We all knew they would but each and every one was caught offside by exactly HOW strong. Deserved number one ranked team in the world at this point in time. And yes, it doesnt matter who plays for the Boks. Injuries, fatigue, loss of form is something that no team is immune to. The ABs, Wallabies, French, Irish, English suffer the same afflictions, the cream rise to the top. Right now thats you, I hope we can turn it around in 2011.
2 Sep 2010, 08:37 am
@I_support_BEES(suffer_guy)-131: bees se gat…let the law take it’s course! whatever someone do to you you cannot take a life period
2 Sep 2010, 08:37 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-101: When last did a NZ team win it? What was the score the last time a NZ team was in the final?
2 Sep 2010, 08:39 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-132: as long as we win WC’s all’s well
2 Sep 2010, 08:40 am
@I_support_BEES(suffer_guy)-131: We all knew there WAS more to the story. “The story” is the subject of the sentence. One story. Therefor was. Not were.
2 Sep 2010, 08:40 am
they guy who was “murdered” has a loooong list of previous ongoing internal investigations … the guy is a bigger skelm that McCaw .. but yet he doesn’t get fired and is paid from my tax money … thanks bees, expose the scum!
2 Sep 2010, 08:41 am
@Tegejo(Tegejo)-135: wow, what was the score at Newlands in 08? what was the score under jake when the Aussies kept you pointless? what was the score when England posted a half century against you?
what was the score at Loftus when NZ posted 50 against you? or at Eden park when NZ posted 50 against you?
sure, it was a fine win by the Bulls in the final by a big big score, but I can handle that in a club competition
internationally, Id be like this
if my team had had 50 points put past them as many times.. arent you?
2 Sep 2010, 08:42 am
@I_support_BEES(suffer_guy)-138: not going to answer post 115? guess it sort of kills your argument about SA and 87 huh?
2 Sep 2010, 08:43 am
hey jy met die indier naam … ek is afrikaans okay ou? so as jy regtig ‘n po3s wil wees moet jy maar aangaan.
2 Sep 2010, 08:44 am
Have just had an email from a friend in Perth. Apparently the Western Force are holding a media conference in the next hour to announce that John Mitchell has been released from the final year of his contract in 2011 as he wishes to coach the Lions in next year’s Super 15.
2 Sep 2010, 08:44 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-139: Nah… my team is the current WORLD CHAMPS…
The game I was referring to was the Bulls Chiefs final. Do you still remember the final score?
2 Sep 2010, 08:44 am
poppa, the world was moerse scared of Danie G, Naas B, etc etc
2 Sep 2010, 08:45 am
@I_support_BEES(suffer_guy)-141: Ek is ook Afrikaans. Ou. Gee jou egter nie die reg om dom te wees nie.
2 Sep 2010, 08:45 am
@Tegejo(Tegejo)-135: who are the only TWO teams to go through a super competition without winning a single game??
I know you know the answer, come now, share it with all of us…
2 Sep 2010, 08:47 am
@Tegejo(Tegejo)-143: see post 146…
do you remember that season? do you remember the Saders putting 50 past the Bulls at “fortress” roftus???
2 Sep 2010, 08:47 am
if i was a keo journo, i would sit back and laugh at all the negative emotions that i send out into the world, causing normally rational people to have emotional responses grounded in little to no reality.
in short, i would be an ar sehole.
now harden the *** up you bunch of p ussies.
Divvy had a hard touring schedule this year like NZ had last year. next year will probably be very different.
but Divvy will still be showing his middle finger to the establishment.
and the funniest thing is watching all the self righteous “oh he supported a murderer!” pr icks talking big when half of you probably secretly believe the cop was to blame.
hypocrites.
p.s. you CT mense with your JS hatred must realise that no one from wp will lead the boks even if smitty goes. the last time we had one of your lot in charge he went around knocking out his own players.
2 Sep 2010, 08:47 am
@I_support_BEES(suffer_guy)-141: You give Afrikaans-speaking ppl a bad name. Leave the blog and post your racist comments elsewhere.
2 Sep 2010, 08:47 am
“The team supports him 100%, not on the deed but rather on the circumstances that led to the situation developing.”
2 Sep 2010, 08:48 am
@I_support_BEES(suffer_guy)-144: still didnt answer the question.
why wasnt SA at the 87 world cup?
2 Sep 2010, 08:51 am
Dit het vorendag gekom dat Bees Roux die ontkleeklub Flamingo’s besoek het. Volgens gerugte was Roux daarna afgepers deur lede van die Metro polisie.
Die eienaar van Flamingo’s, mnr. Pieter Crouse, sê dat sy kliënte gereeld afgetrek word deur Metro polisie na besoeke aan sy klub. Die kliënte word dan deur Metro polisie vergesel na ‘n otm-bankteller, waar hulle dan gedwing word om geld te trek, en aan die polisie-lede te gee. As hulle nie saamwerk nie, word hulle gearresteer vir dronkbestuur.
Crouse sê dat een van sy dansers aan hom bevestig het dat Roux saam met ‘n vriend in die klub was in die vroeë oggendure van Vrydag.
Roux se regsverteenwoordiger het Maandag die hof beweer dat Roux die slagoffer was van ‘n rooftog deur die betrokke Metro polisie lede.
Intussen is daar ‘n interne ondersoek geloods na Mohale en sy kollegas se optrede. Dit is die vierde interne ondersoek waarby Mohale betrek word. Volgens Beeld is die vorige ondersoeke soos volg:
Jul 2007: Diefstal en wanordelike optrede.
Nov 2008: Pligsversuim en onprofessionele gedrag.
Des 2008: Growwe nalatigheid, die pleging van ’n daad wat skadelik vir die munisipaliteit is en pligsversuim.
Hierdie wending maak die saak nog meer verdag, en dinge begin al hoe meer te lyk of die Metro polisie lede die skelms in die verhaal is. Ek wonder wat gaan nog alles uitkom…
Mutantbird, I dunno if you can read Afrikaans, but what was that I was telling you about drawing conclusions……………
2 Sep 2010, 08:51 am
So you a bit pissed that Hoskins is also now ignoring you Grant?
2 Sep 2010, 08:52 am
“GRANT BALL says that Regan Hoskins’ failure to discipline Peter de Villiers has led to the situation where South African is the laughing stock of the rugby world.”
Grant Ball, where you been man, sleeping no doubt….. just yesterday one of your colleagues told us, as fact, that Divvy is getting fired and now you are saying something else. C’mon chaps, if you want to push agendas at least get on the same page.
2 Sep 2010, 08:53 am
@I_support_BEES(suffer_guy)-144: Given their history abusing black people, I’ll wouldve also been
2 Sep 2010, 08:53 am
@PissAnt(PissAnt)-153: lol. Was thinking the same thing.
2 Sep 2010, 08:53 am
see rugby heaven site….Cardinelli and the respected keo site gets a mention.
2 Sep 2010, 08:54 am
poppa … like i said, the world was k@k bang for guys like Naas B, Danie G, Tommy Du Plessis/ Divan Serfontein, De Wet Ras, MIchael Du Plessis, Carel Du Plessis, Ray Mordt
Johan Heunis/ Calla Scholtz.
Jan Loch, Uli Schmidt, Flip van der Merwe, Hempies Du Toit, Henning van Asweegen,
Schalk Burger, Hennie Bekker,
Burger Geldenhuys; Gert Smal; Wal Bartman; Nick Mallet; Theuns Stoffberg;
2 Sep 2010, 08:54 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-151: arm please allow me to answer, it was only invitational meaninless event which the 87 SARU bosses said to each other ‘let the kiwis win at least one because they will again’
2 Sep 2010, 08:54 am
@Agile T*t-Tyrant(Anairetes agilis)-152: “Volgens gerugte”
2 Sep 2010, 08:54 am
This is the 4th internal investigation that Mohale is involved in, (in only 4 years on the force).
Like I said, I only feel sorry for the 9-year old kid, for having been brought into a family like that.
2 Sep 2010, 08:55 am
Wow it seems everybody wants PdV axed. John Smit too. Can’t understand it really, so close to the WC. Keo journos spitting out the usual hatred.
By the way. Killing a man doesn’t necessarily mean murder. Still lots to come out at this trial.
Blackmail, murder, hijacking, drunken driving and corruption. Take your pick. Guilty until proven innocent.
2 Sep 2010, 08:56 am
@Mighty Horua(Mighty Horua)-160:
So what do you call the reporting of the eye-witness?
Which you lapped up and damned Bees with???
2 Sep 2010, 08:56 am
… in 36 years
2 Sep 2010, 08:56 am
“When contacted by keo.co.za for his reaction to De Villiers’ latest media embarrassment, Hoskins said he wasn’t available for comment and wouldn’t be in future. This from the president of Saru.”
You think?? After all the disparaging nonsense that gets written on this site about PDV and Hoskins and he tells KEO to Go to hell??? Really? A big surprise to you guys???
Something about biting the hand that feeds you comes to mind…
2 Sep 2010, 08:56 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-139: fact remains….WC trophy is in Cape Town
2 Sep 2010, 08:57 am
@Ratel Brussow(Morne Steyn is under-rated)-162: where does smit say he wants pdv fired?
2 Sep 2010, 08:58 am
Redlion 36 years? Bwahaha I see smarts isn’t a lions characteristic
Shane the antipodes didn’t let the lions win one this year huh?
Mind you, the lions couldn’t win a root in a brothel.
2 Sep 2010, 09:01 am
@SuperStirrer(SuperStirrer)-154: Amen Brother. This campaign is so transparent it’s laughable…
In Fact….HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH
2 Sep 2010, 09:01 am
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-156:
Seriously what do they think is going to happen if they continue to write **** about someone?
And given how things are panning out in the Bees Roux saga his comment (PDV) on supporting Bees on the CIRCUMSTANCES around the ordeal but not the DEED they will look even look more stupid if it ends up being true…
Yesterday Tank Lanning told me one should rather err on the side of caution and I agree with him – he was referring to PDV and his comment but I reckon some journalists (Rugbyheaven calls them bloggers
) on here should do the same before jumping the gun…
2 Sep 2010, 09:01 am
@mountaingoat(mountaingoat)-166: hehehe surprised it hasnt been stolen yet
2 Sep 2010, 09:02 am
@Agile T*t-Tyrant(Anairetes agilis)-152: Die feite sal in die hofsaak uitkom. Om aan te hou bespiegel is ‘n mors van tyd. Hier was geen wenners hier nie en dis een groot f$%#. Baie mense se lewens verwoes.
2 Sep 2010, 09:03 am
And how is this for irony…
PDV mentioned in the same interview that people will do anything to discredit or stereotype players (hurt the Boks) – just look what is happening right now.
The man was 100% correct…
2 Sep 2010, 09:04 am
@Agile T*t-Tyrant(Anairetes agilis)-163: Agile. Lets assume that its true. All of it thus far. The Metro Cops blackmailed Bees, robbed him, Bees assaulted the cop. It still wouldnt change much. If what the security guard described holds up Bees is going to jail for murder or at the very least culpable homicide. His argument would be private defense and while it might hold sway for the first assault, it wont for the second. Remember that in private defense your life or that of another must be immediately threatened, leaving you with no other choice but to kill the suspect. Bees assaulted him to the point that he was lying on the tar motionless. First assault.The car started to roll and Bees ran to stop it. The act was thus interrupted. Bees then returned and finished him off. Second assault. At this point his life or that of another wasnt endangered as the policeman could do nothing but breath. There is thus no justification for the second attack.
2 Sep 2010, 09:04 am
@Two Eyed(Two Eyed)-172:
Nou-ja, hulle hou ons mos op datum van tyd tot tyd.
2 Sep 2010, 09:04 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-171: have you ever been to newlands? that trophy is there for all to see…via appointment and supervision! so no use stealing it…btw we export gold so making a new one is easy peasy
2 Sep 2010, 09:04 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-171: Thats the only way you’ll get your hands on it….
2 Sep 2010, 09:05 am
@grant10(grant10)-157: Yes, I saw that. Did you see how it refers to Cardinelli as a “blogger” and not a Journalist? That made me spill my coffee.
2 Sep 2010, 09:05 am
@grant10(grant10)-167: Everybody want JS fired too.
Wow.
2 Sep 2010, 09:06 am
@Agile T*t-Tyrant(Anairetes agilis)-161: Ur either for or against Bees. Mmmmm…..wonder u used a similar phrase
2 Sep 2010, 09:06 am
@mountaingoat(mountaingoat)-176: nope, never been… would like to some day, attend a few AB games in the republic… but I cant afford the security guards, so not sure I’ll ever get there…
do you use the gold to hide the blood diamonds? just curious?
2 Sep 2010, 09:06 am
“Regardless of what happens in the final Tri-Nations Test on Saturday, Peter de Villiers can no longer be tolerated,” blogger Jon Cardinelli wrote on the respected keo.co.za website.
“The Boks are the world champions and the South African community should accept nothing but the best.
“It’s been obvious from day one that de Villiers doesn’t fit the criteria, and he’s consistently proved it over a three-year career.”
2 Sep 2010, 09:06 am
@Tegejo(Tegejo)-177: we were the first ones to hold it aloft, so you may want to revisit your post..
2 Sep 2010, 09:08 am
As Bees Roux se hy gaan jou dood donder…. GLO HOM!
Guys, speculating about the facts now will only make you grumoy all day. This is a rugby blog. Lets keep the discussions rugby-related.
2 Sep 2010, 09:09 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-181: We don’t have to hide anything mate. We own the Kimberly process.
2 Sep 2010, 09:09 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-181: Attend one in Cape Town. Buy tickets for the Danie Craven stand. No bodyguards needed then.
2 Sep 2010, 09:09 am
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-174:
Ja, ek **** jou. Blykbaar het hy die sekuriteitswag ook bestorm, maar die het homself as sulks geidentifiseer, en nie n kaper nie. Maar veseker wou hy nie die ou dood nie. Hy het blykbaar self gevra hulle moet die polisie bel.
2 Sep 2010, 09:09 am
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-185: hehehe the kimberly process? even got a name for it now
2 Sep 2010, 09:09 am
@Agile T*t-Tyrant(Anairetes agilis)-187:
* h o o r
Really Keo, please allow us to say “hear” in Afrikaans.
2 Sep 2010, 09:11 am
@PissAnt(PissAnt)-170: I saw that part about Cardinelli being a “Blogger”. LOL. I guess the universe has it’s Karma……
2 Sep 2010, 09:11 am
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-186: heard good things about the braais afterwards… would enjoy the whole atmosphere… wouldnt be lonely in my AB jersey either lol
2 Sep 2010, 09:11 am
@Agile T*t-Tyrant(Anairetes agilis)-187: Ja. Ook het hy hom probeer bybring toe hy besef hy haal nie asem nie.
2 Sep 2010, 09:12 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-183: And then 23 years of nothingness…. You must be so proud!
2 Sep 2010, 09:12 am
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-174:
Ja, mense is wreed. As dinge staan soos dit hier blyk, gaan baie meer mense meegevoel he, en bly wees dat n korrupte metrolid van ons strate verwyder is.
2 Sep 2010, 09:13 am
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-192:
It soos: “Be strong, you have to make it….”
2 Sep 2010, 09:13 am
Grant, are you implying that the way Jake White was treated after being called back to explain himself is how all South African coaches should be treated?
Surely, the fact that Pieter de Villiers has not been subjected to that treatment is a step forwardbyt SARU?
You guys at Keo have to be the most negative, cynical ‘journalists’ in the rugby world.
What’s it like waking up everyday realising you guys are not coaching the Boks and that the sky is going to fall on your heads?
2 Sep 2010, 09:13 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-191: Thats Kings Park (Durban. Braais on the B-field after the game, players joining in.
Thats why I advocated Cape Town, many Ab supporters around and being a real-deal Kiwi you’d be worshipped.
2 Sep 2010, 09:13 am
@Agile T*t-Tyrant(Anairetes agilis)-163: And you are lapping the current gerugte up! A father/husband/brother was brutally murdered, like Taahirah said: There is thus no justification for the second attack, and somebody needs to pay
2 Sep 2010, 09:14 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-188: Yip. Google it.
You know what Google is, don’t you?? 
2 Sep 2010, 09:14 am
@Agile T*t-Tyrant(Anairetes agilis)-189: Yeah and fucked are quite acceptable….
2 Sep 2010, 09:14 am
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-192:
Mohale was nog van diens af ook, volgens gerugte.
2 Sep 2010, 09:14 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-181: @ least our gems are not in the form of kiwis
2 Sep 2010, 09:16 am
@Bowlphilosophy(rennton)-196:
Bloggers please!
2 Sep 2010, 09:17 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-191: Come down with pleasure, I’ll chaperone you, you’ll be quite safe…
Braai and real beer included at no cost.
2 Sep 2010, 09:18 am
@Tegejo(Tegejo)-200: is
2 Sep 2010, 09:18 am
@mountaingoat(mountaingoat)-74: “& the bokke moer’d the AB’s in 2009 3-0 with neutral refs LOL…& the Bokke won the WC2007 with neutral refs LOLOLOLOLOLOL”
I could have sworn they lost all three this year with neutral refs and all we hear – refs are kak. Go figure.
2 Sep 2010, 09:18 am
@Mighty Horua(Mighty Horua)-198:
Somebody has been paying from day 1: Mohale junior.
And every other victim of Mohale and his gang.
2 Sep 2010, 09:18 am
@Agile T*t-Tyrant(Anairetes agilis)-195: Yep. “Staan op, jy’s sterk man, jy sal nou-nou weer opstaan”. Strokes with the reports that he was found on top of the deceased when help arrived.
2 Sep 2010, 09:21 am
@Tegejo(Tegejo)-193: yep, as proud as winning it twice, and fokall else over that same 24 year period..
at least when my team goes north they fill me with pride, not lose to club sides and get whipped by 50 points against England… thats certainly one to be proud of huh?
2 Sep 2010, 09:21 am
@Agile T*t-Tyrant(Anairetes agilis)-207: Wonder if this is what it will take to root out the corruption within our law enforcement bodies? Sadly I think no. They’ll just be mor careful for a couple of months.
2 Sep 2010, 09:22 am
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-208:
Help natuurlik glad nie dat hulle voorgegee het dat die verdagte letterlik moes “afgesleep geword het” van die oorledene….
2 Sep 2010, 09:23 am
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-210:
It takes a unit like the scorpions. Oh! Wait a minute…..Ja.
2 Sep 2010, 09:24 am
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-210:
I dont find it surprizing that the whole metro-department basically was there at the hearing. They definitely have some explaining to do.
2 Sep 2010, 09:24 am
hoskins backed jake when he was losing 49-0 you guys here at Keo were baying for him to be canned and the team went on to win the world cup but now he must ‘man up’ and fire pdv? Grant Ball you’re writing bollocks!!!
Hoskins backs White
Jake White has the support of SARU
president Regan Hoskins.
White, addressing the media in New
Zealand, said Hoskins had stood firmly
behind him, despite the result — one White
described as among the worst Bok
performances he had seen.
Despite emotional outburst in South Africa
from former Bok players calling for White to
go, the Bok coach said he was going
nowhere and that he had the support of the
people who make the decisions regarding
his future.
“I haven’t heard anything from the board.
Our board chairman and our president were
very supportive, ” said White. “They came to
our team meeting and showed a lot of
support to the team and to the management
and that was quite surprising, (it was)
confidence for us as a group.
“It has never been done before – not in my
time (as coach).”
It has never happened because the Boks
have never taken 49 points without reply in
White ’s time.
This entry was posted on Monday, July
17th, 2006
2 Sep 2010, 09:25 am
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-197: hehe Id even teach them how to converse in native NZ speak.. cher bro
@mountaingoat(mountaingoat)-202: hehehe we have some SA gems, like Irene van Dyk. even one of your cricketers, cant recall his name at present..
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-204: that would be my honour, and I may just take you up on that some day… I would have a beer with most bloggers here…
2 Sep 2010, 09:26 am
@Agile T*t-Tyrant(Anairetes agilis)-213: All of this is gonna get ugly as the case evolves.
2 Sep 2010, 09:26 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-209: We are the CURRENT world champs.
Try the maths again. We are world champs 8 years out of a possible 16, seeing that 1995 was our first shot at the title. That gives you a total of 50%.
You guys were champs for 4 years out of a possible 24. Thats 16%. Like I said… You must be SO proud!
2 Sep 2010, 09:26 am
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-204:
“…..you’ll be quite safe…….”
It’s illegal to own a Ratel fighting vehicle.
2 Sep 2010, 09:26 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-107: If I am not mistaken, that happened a sea level in Durban.
2 Sep 2010, 09:27 am
@Agile T*t-Tyrant(Anairetes agilis)-207: I was thinking down the line of BEES. Being a rugby player earning 850 000pa, why didnt he call some prossies from Mamelodi for private entertainment, the Bluebood culture lead him to the strip club, dik gesuip en al and where he’ve been blackmailed before.
2 Sep 2010, 09:27 am
Lions secures the services of coach John Mitchell for 3 years…
Apparently both CC and Super rugby head coach…
2 Sep 2010, 09:29 am
@Tegejo(Tegejo)-217: current world champs sure, whats their CURRENT record this year?
history is just that mate, history…
theres really only one stat that matters, and it CURRENTLY sits at 45-33..
does that ring any bells? be happy winning a knockout tournament twice, Im much prouder that my team is the biggest drawcard in world rugby and has a all time win record no other team comes close too..
2 Sep 2010, 09:29 am
@PissAnt(PissAnt)-221: You cant be serious?? Really?? This is great news!!
2 Sep 2010, 09:30 am
@PissAnt(PissAnt)-221: Oh Dragons on your post!!
2 Sep 2010, 09:30 am
@Mighty Horua(Mighty Horua)-220:
“……..why didnt he call some prossies from Mamelodi for private entertainment….”
Maybe he didn’t want AIDS? Who knows?
2 Sep 2010, 09:30 am
@PissAnt(PissAnt)-221: Very good news for them!
2 Sep 2010, 09:30 am
@Transformation(Transformation)-214: …all a load of kuk from the wanabee writers…it was only after Keo ran kaalg#t tussen the daisies that he ‘whistle.-blew’ rudolf into the shark tank….i gues he likes the excitement of playing Adam
2 Sep 2010, 09:31 am
@PissAnt(PissAnt)-221: thats got to be a dent in the pride of ALL Sa’s
getting the kiwis to fix your rugby, but its been going on for a while now..
2 Sep 2010, 09:31 am
The Lions will always be average ..
2 Sep 2010, 09:32 am
LOL @ 225
2 Sep 2010, 09:32 am
@iori Yagami(iori Yagami)-223: @Tegejo(Tegejo)-226:
Very serious, confirmed on the Western Force website too, John will become the head coach of the union in both CC and Super rugby.
2 Sep 2010, 09:33 am
@PissAnt(PissAnt)-221: Great great news!!!!
2 Sep 2010, 09:33 am
Grant Ball.
I know you’re comparing the treament of White to Divvy. But maybe SARU have learnt that you don’t pull coaches off tours for meetings because it upsets the team?
Perhaps, despite the lack of discipline for Divvy, they have learnt at least something. They can now put the lego blocks on top of each other. They just need to realise that you can discipline a black person and not be seen as racist – espcially after Divvy comments in a racially charged affair, backing the white guy threatens to alienate black supporters. It should be easy to discipline him now and have the backing of a united SA and any charges of racism will be laughed off by black and white. A perfect opportunity to get a real coach in, with real assistants – Gold can stay but Muir must go.
Anyway, comparing JW and Divvy is perhaps fair as they are both limited coaches with little vision or tactical ability. Divvy relies on the Bulls and JW relied on size and strength. JW was consistently out-coached from 2005 and only a very soft RWC draw gives him any kind of credibility. That we nearly lost to Tonga and Fiji and only had to beat a limited Argentinian and English side to win says everything. In fact, if you watch the RWC final again, that Dad’s army of Englishmen nearly beat us.
JW’s true ability was demonstrated in 2006 when he shown up as a good technical analyist but a limited coach. JW needed to be lectured in coaching by some real coaches. JW’s complete inability to comprehend the breakdown cost us tons of matches.
Face it people, last proper coach we had was Mallett 12 years ago.
2 Sep 2010, 09:33 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-228:
The number of good coaches in SA can be counted on one hand.
2 Sep 2010, 09:34 am
Plum at the Sharks
Mitchell at the Lions
now the conspiracy stories can really gather some seriaas momentum!
2 Sep 2010, 09:35 am
@PissAnt(PissAnt)-231: With **** Muir still Director of Rugby? Starting next year right?
2 Sep 2010, 09:36 am
@PissAnt(PissAnt)-234: why is that PA? surely you guys can produce some astute rugby people?
2 Sep 2010, 09:36 am
@PissAnt(PissAnt)-234:
So we have the best players in the world, the best referees in the world, and the worst coaches in the world?
2 Sep 2010, 09:37 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-237:
Posted at the same time,
2 Sep 2010, 09:37 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-228: Nothing wrong with a little bit of diversity.
2 Sep 2010, 09:37 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-235: lol. In all fairness: Plum hasnt really been a rousing success has he?
2 Sep 2010, 09:38 am
@iori Yagami(iori Yagami)-236:
Yeah it is assumed D ick will remain DOR, similar to Heyneke and Rassie but leave the day-to-day coaching to Mitchell.
@iori Yagami(iori Yagami)-236:
How much time do you have???
@Agile T*t-Tyrant(Anairetes agilis)-238:
They are, in general, not in the same league as our players and referees no.
At least that is my opinion.
2 Sep 2010, 09:39 am
@PissAnt(PissAnt)-242:
**** sorry, was meant to ask Poppa how much time he has…
2 Sep 2010, 09:39 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-237: @Agile T*t-Tyrant(Anairetes agilis)-238: Blame apartheid!
2 Sep 2010, 09:40 am
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-241: well, hes had JS in his team, how could he be
@Agile T*t-Tyrant(Anairetes agilis)-239: does that make two t.i.ts posted?
2 Sep 2010, 09:40 am
@PissAnt(PissAnt)-243: Its cool!
2 Sep 2010, 09:41 am
poppa … we’ve produced 2 Rugby World Cup winning coaches
2 Sep 2010, 09:42 am
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-241: the Sharks are leading this years CC though arent they?
@PissAnt(PissAnt)-243: I have about 40 minutes before I finish work mate..
2 Sep 2010, 09:43 am
@PissAnt(PissAnt)-234: Are you including John Smit and Victor Matfield.
2 Sep 2010, 09:43 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-228: poppa – I am a Kiwi and even I am a bit tired of all your provocation and insults to the South Africans. I know that they dish it it out from time to time, but you are really starting to be a bit of a broken record. A bit of banter is fun, but show a bit of class and know when to talk rugby instead of garbage.
2 Sep 2010, 09:44 am
@I_support_BEES(suffer_guy)-247: true… but having a coach who again, I keep repeating this point, gets a team to perform for 2 months over 4 years isnt really a great coach…and I didnt know Eddie Jones was a Saffa… without him you would have only had one WC winning coach..
2 Sep 2010, 09:45 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-248: Yep. But in terms of silverware he has one trophy to show for his efforts.
2 Sep 2010, 09:45 am
@aliboy(aliboy)-250: dish it out from time to time? how long have you been on this blog? were you here last year after the 3Ns?
2 Sep 2010, 09:46 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-228: Fact is we’ve both got a proud history, but neither of us are the ‘Brazil’ of rugby. If NZ were they’d win WCs, if we were we’d have the best win record.
By the way. World Champions are world champions, something you haven’t been since 91. We’re still the champs, so if you’d rather keep your No. 1 ranking then lift the WC that’s up to you. Personally if I had to choose, I’d choose the Web-Ellis again.
2 Sep 2010, 09:47 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-248:
Well in this country in general it is not what you know, but who you know – rugby is no different and I guess even worse in many ways.
There is simply no structures to promote the natural progression of coaches through the different levels. A couple of academies have started up but only a select few of them are closely associated to unions which means that coaches find it hard to be linked to structures into which they can grow.
Financially it is one of the most risky career choices given the climate of losing your job in this country as a coach, and because there is a massive difference in remuniration for a junior and senior coaches, but not only that, what a coach at one of the top 5 unions earns, and the smaller 9 remaining unions.
Unions in this country will rather invest in past players than astute coaches which is another major problem.
In my view, some of this country’s best rugby brains are coaching schoolboys but there is just no means for them to progress and take this to senior level.
2 Sep 2010, 09:47 am
mitchell will need to buy some players, but the Lions will become a force again 4sure…employee Kobus Wiese to scare the players sh!tless LOL
2 Sep 2010, 09:47 am
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-252: maybe that was because he was in SA when they didnt have all this incredible depth
2 Sep 2010, 09:48 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-253: Did you revise your maths calculations? Or did you ignore the fact that we’ve been world champs for 50% of the time we’ve been involved in it, and the Kiwis only 16% of the time?
2 Sep 2010, 09:48 am
@aliboy(aliboy)-250: He has earned the right Aliboy. The likes of him, Cane, Black Panther and yes, even The Tackler, have had to endure much worse on this site last year and they still stuck around. The shoe is on the other foot, they have earned the right to have a go at us. The blog would be the poorer without them.
2 Sep 2010, 09:49 am
Poppa .. Kitch never lost a match as a bok coach. He outsmarted the untouchable NZ team of 1995 … & Laurie Mains
2 Sep 2010, 09:51 am
@iori Yagami(iori Yagami)-249:
2 Sep 2010, 09:51 am
@mountaingoat(mountaingoat)-256:
You can expect John Smit in a Lions jersey next year.
2 Sep 2010, 09:52 am
“Beeld has learned from four independent sources about three previous ongoing internal investigations involving Mohale. These investigations related to charges of theft and disorderly conduct in July 2007; failing in his duty and unprofessional conduct in November 2008; and gross negligence, committing a deed harmful to the council and failing in his duty in December 2008.
None of the earlier investigations or disciplinary hearings had been completed.”
If the department was actually interested in the Law, and safety of Tshwane citizens, they would have fired Mohale long ago, and the incident might not have happened at all.
2 Sep 2010, 09:53 am
“Hoskins said he wasn’t available for comment and wouldn’t be in future. This from the president of Saru.” – not to Keo, he aint. the President of Saru will and has probably made comments to rugby news vendors with credibility, though
“Reports suggest Hoskins has been told by the government – who are already upset with De Villiers for not picking more black players during his tenure as originally promised – to deal with the Bok coach.” – what reports? Credible ones or more Keo “reports” based on rumour for the sake of “theatre”.
“What must the new sponsors Absa think? Are they happy to be associated with such a loose cannon?” – what are you on about. This sounds like a rant now, not an evidence guided report by a credible rugby journo.
In short, keo journos are throwing their collective toys because they have no access to Bok rugby / admin, no credibility outside ct and the narrow confines of the followers of this compromised vendor.
The real clowns are the contributing journos to this “theatre”.
2 Sep 2010, 09:54 am
@Ratel Brussow(Morne Steyn is under-rated)-254: Ratel, I agree on both the histories and the WCs tag…
thing is, Id rather my team maintain their all time 80% win record… the current fascination of everyone with the WC has seen results like 49-0 be dismissed as “practice games” because of a knockout tourny..
I grew up in the time of tours, and the WC pales when compared to a 3 or 4 test tour of SA by the ABs for example… that is a true test of a teams playing prowess, not some tourny where you may get lucky and not have to face any team ranked higher then 5th. to proclaim yourself as world champs and have a win-loss record this year of 1-4 in a 3 team series (against the 2 teams that came 7th and 8th) is the reason you guys dont perform consistently, it gives you a false sense of accomplishment.
its only a matter of time until that tourny ends up like the soccer world cup with continual diving and play acting, because like any professional sport, teams will do their utmost to win it..
2 Sep 2010, 09:54 am
@aliboy(aliboy)-250: So boring…..best to scroll past. Same thing over and over.
2 Sep 2010, 09:55 am
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-264:
Please refer to them as bloggers in future… See rugbyheaven.
2 Sep 2010, 09:56 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-253: Yep last year, and the year before, and the year before that. First logon was in April 07, although I had been browsing for a while as a ‘guest’ prior to that. I don’t choose to post often (little more this season) but I browse here a lot during the S14 and international windows. I am very familiar with the ‘style’ of Keo and most of it’s regular posters, including a few good ones that have unfortunately disappeared.
I know there is plenty of brown stuff thrown here, but I have had perfectly good discussions with some of the most ‘anti-AB’ posters on here just by taking a reasonable approach, discussing real rugby ‘stuff’, and treating their comments as friendly banter and replying in kind. Going all out in every post to belittle the SA posters because their team is having a bad run is really not likely to produce good, interesting, discussion.
2 Sep 2010, 09:56 am
@Tegejo(Tegejo)-258: nah no need to… be happy performing once every 4 years..
take last years 3Ns, when last did you win that? it would have been at least 5 years before that, because my team won it four years straight…
enjoy your WC success, because eventually we will win it again, and again, and again, a team with an overall 80% win record is going to get just as lucky as SA in 07 and be gifted the trophy…
2 Sep 2010, 09:57 am
@PissAnt(PissAnt)-255: its a shame then PA, I wonder how long before a foreigner takes over as head coach of the Boks.. ?
2 Sep 2010, 09:58 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-251: what do you want saffas to think or believe?:
Let me guess,
1. ab rugby is ranked no.1 between World Cups
2. ab rugby is no.1 most of the time
3. ab rugby has the highest win/loss ratio
4. ab rugby is consistent
There you go. Now f.ck off and pipe down south sea hobbit
2 Sep 2010, 09:58 am
Boks coach Peter de Villiers on shaky ground
September 2, 2010 – 10:58AM
Peter de Villiers takes a moment at Suncorp Stadium a fortnight ago.
Under pressure … Peter de Villiers Photo: Getty Images
Speculation is growing in South Africa that Springboks coach Peter de Villiers could be sacked as early as Sunday.
Local media are reporting the outspoken de Villiers will be hauled over the coals after comments he made about supporting accused murderer and Bulls prop Bees Roux “100 per cent”.
Some reports say the consequence is likely to be the removal of the first black man to coach the Boks, regardless of the result in the team’s Tri-Nations Test against Australia in Bloemfontein on Saturday (0100 Sunday AEST).
SARU officials are refusing to comment on de Villiers’ latest controversial remarks until after this weekend’s match, South Africa’s last of the series.
But the rugby body’s president Oregan Hoskins told the Cape Argus: “We will definitely look at his statements after Saturday.
“I don’t want to call it disciplinary action – it may not be. Instead, it will be an assessment.”
Several reports say senior rugby officials and even government figures are incensed by de Villiers’ backing of Roux, who was charged with beating a black police officer to death last week.
The timeslive.co.za website quoted an unnamed rugby official as saying: “We are not only unhappy with what he said regarding the Roux incident, but also over his previous comments.”
Last month de Villiers escaped penalty at a SANZAR disciplinary hearing after appearing to suggest the New Zealand team had received preferential treatment from referees in their two Tri-Nations series home wins over the Boks.
In 2009, he appeared to condone eye-gouging and in 2008 responded to criticism by asking if rugby should be given back to whites in South Africa.
At a press conference in Bloemfontein on Monday, he said: “We definitely talked about Bees in a team context.
“We feel for all South Africans, and especially rugby players, because a situation like this can happen to anybody. It is a tragic situation and we wish it on nobody.
“The team supports him 100 per cent, not on the deed but rather on the circumstances that led to the situation developing.”
One report compared de Villiers’ long list of embarrassing comments to the sacking of former Boks coach Nick Mallett for merely complaining about ticket prices.
“Regardless of what happens in the final Tri-Nations Test on Saturday, Peter de Villiers can no longer be tolerated,” blogger Jon Cardinelli wrote on the respected keo.co.za website.
“The Boks are the world champions and the South African community should accept nothing but the best.
“It’s been obvious from day one that de Villiers doesn’t fit the criteria, and he’s consistently proved it over a three-year career.”
AAP
2 Sep 2010, 10:01 am
@PissAnt(PissAnt)-267: Will do. but some keo “bloggers” are sasi journos – supposedly “real” ones with “cred” and “authority”.
2 Sep 2010, 10:01 am
@aliboy(aliboy)-268: hey, to borrow a SA euphemism, its all banter bru..
and perhaps it may enlighten a few to how annoying it can get, probably wont, but I’ll be here to take my share when the time comes..
unlike some who shall remain nameless, though I hear France is good this time of year
2 Sep 2010, 10:03 am
Good news for Lions rugby…
“New Zealander John Mitchell will coach the Lions on a permanent basis for the next three years.”
Good for guys like Jantjies, Taute and co who I expect will develop well under Mitchell!
2 Sep 2010, 10:04 am
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-273:
“quasi”?
JC is the sassy one.
2 Sep 2010, 10:04 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-269: Lucky? Really? Are you going with lucky???? HAHAHA
4 more years… I’ve heard that before somewhere….
2 Sep 2010, 10:05 am
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-271:nah, just a level of respect youve never got close to… youd find most foreigners would repay that level of respect..
hows the thumbprint today? must be a bit deep, you seem quite angry…
2 Sep 2010, 10:05 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-270:
Only thing stopping that is the politics involved in our rugby. No foreign coach wants to be subjected to quota clauses.
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-273:
Crisis, we have been in the presense of greatness and we did not even know it!!!
2 Sep 2010, 10:05 am
@PissAnt(PissAnt)-267: did you actually write that post last night. if so, very impressive.
2 Sep 2010, 10:07 am
@Agile T*t-Tyrant(Anairetes agilis)-276: sassy – Lol
2 Sep 2010, 10:07 am
““Regardless of what happens in the final Tri-Nations Test on Saturday, Peter de Villiers can no longer be tolerated,” blogger Jon Cardinelli wrote on the respected keo.co.za website.”
Nou ja. Respected.
2 Sep 2010, 10:07 am
@PissAnt(PissAnt)-279:
Presence even – I got all awestruck…
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-280:
I did, I have seen and experienced enough of rugby journalists in my time to see how they go about doing things with absolutely no shame.
Real pity.
One of PDV’s fiercest critics but one of my more favourite journalists is Zelim Nel, so it is not that I have a problem with people criticising even.
2 Sep 2010, 10:08 am
@Tegejo(Tegejo)-277: true, very lucky, if not for a try saving tackle you would have lost to that world power Fiji…
you tell me, you faced one team in the whole world cup who had beaten you before, if thats not lucky then I dont know what is..
lets see how you go next year when you will have a much harder run to the final… Ireland in the 1/4s will be a real danger, they have won their last 3 against you…
2 Sep 2010, 10:09 am
@PissAnt(PissAnt)-283:
Might just be because he comes from a rugby background and is actually a qualified rugby union coach…
His arguments are always well presented and backed up.
2 Sep 2010, 10:09 am
It is the duty of every NZer to stress their support for PdV to remain as the Springbok Coach to the 2011world cup.
2 Sep 2010, 10:10 am
@PissAnt(PissAnt)-279: perhaps with a foreign coach he could stipulate that he wont pick quotas, thus ridding the whole sham in SA rugby… a foreign coach would probably have much more leeway in picking players “on merit only”.. IMO..
2 Sep 2010, 10:12 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-278: Respect is earned, especially when games count and the battlefield is level – like 2 weeks back.
Since then “respect” evaporates rapidly. Not all saffas have to agree with a kiwi view of rugby.
Strangely enough, contrary to the views of the likes of you, bok rugby is successful in its own right…
2 Sep 2010, 10:13 am
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-288: and respect is lost very very quickly when the mention of conspiracy ad nauseam is bandied about…
I guess cowboys do cry huh?
2 Sep 2010, 10:13 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-287:
Laurie Mains did wonders at the Lions so who knows…
2 Sep 2010, 10:13 am
dawn .. you want to sign the petition against PDV as a coach? i can give you the link
2 Sep 2010, 10:14 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-287: Nope. He wouldnt. Remember Laurie Mains being accused of racism when coaching the Cats, by administrators and some of the (black) players. He couldnt handle it and eventually upped and left. Not solely coz of that but Im sure it contributed.
2 Sep 2010, 10:14 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-265: On some counts I agree with you Poppa, but times have changed and the players play so MUCH rugby now, that its really difficult to perform at 100% intensity all the time. SA play a different game to you guys. At this stage I honestly don’t mind if we blood some youngsters on the EOYT (NZ do this all the time) and we lose a few games. I know that is terrible to say, but at the same time I believe our youngsters may have as much chance as our overplayed regulars. Now you might scoff at this, claiming tiredness and all that, but as far as I’m concerned its scientific fact.
I disagree with you regards to the SWC. The games at the RWC are reffed differently. The game is more pure and everybody has been conditioned their best for the tournament. Aussies lost to England cause they couldn’t scrum, they get away with that for 4 years (Sackless Paddy) and then are monstered. Similarly the lineout is reffed more harshly (as it should be) and refs focus more on the technical aspects of the game.
Its a level playing field. The pinnacle. Everybody should be at their best. No excuses. Old fashioned test match rugby.
2 Sep 2010, 10:15 am
@I_support_BEES(suffer_guy)-291:
Where’s that?
2 Sep 2010, 10:17 am
@PissAnt(PissAnt)-283: its not about anti-criticism but this is now a frantic lynchmob from Keo – but painted as fact with actual predictions (yesterday) based on nothing more than speculation and rumour. It is irresponsible in the light of points raised in your post.
2 Sep 2010, 10:17 am
Get rid of both of them!
2 Sep 2010, 10:17 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-284: Some call it lucky…others call it world cup winning rugby.
One try-saving tackle? Yes…we made one try saving tackle. You didn’t. Tackling is part of rugby, you know……
2 Sep 2010, 10:18 am
@I_support_BEES(suffer_guy)-291: @Agile T*t-Tyrant(Anairetes agilis)-294: It will cost R5 million to buy him out of his contract, money SARU cant afford. If you guys are willing to contribute I will give you bank account details. Promise not to run away with the money.
2 Sep 2010, 10:18 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-289: Conspiracy as in a curious convergences of inconsistency, highlighted not just by saffas but also aussies.
2 Sep 2010, 10:21 am
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-298:
Well, up until this point I’ve always known that the Lotto is only a way of taxing the mathematically challenged. But hell, now I’m ready to ignore my training.
2 Sep 2010, 10:22 am
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-295:
Abuse of power. It is an issue I have in general.
2 Sep 2010, 10:22 am
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-292: Didnt know Laurie was accused of racism, but that was late 90s so Id imagine it still had more stigma attached to the whole race issue then…
@Ratel Brussow(Morne Steyn is under-rated)-293: you make some valid points, I think the difference is NZ blood one or two players at a time, rather then too many all at once.. different approach I guess..
We will have to disagree about reffing at the WC, I have seen many of the minnow teams (and I include Samoa, Tonga and Fiji) that have been on the end of some very harsh calls because they were playing the established teams (se, no reference to Barnes).. so I disagree with the true level playing field at the WC…
Old fashioned test match rugby was you blooded players in the midweek games, and if you lost a test you still had one the following week to see if you were good enough to come back from… so there again I will agree to disagree..
work finishes, been fun and the fishing has been fantastic, shame I have to leave when the talk was amicable and quite interesting..
2 Sep 2010, 10:24 am
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-299: cmon, that video the voice on it was SA, probably an expat living in Aussie… but go ahead, believe you only ever get beaten by conspiracies… it throws respect right out the window, probably why you guys get a harsh time at the judiciary all the time..
@Tegejo(Tegejo)-297: I can see your one of the intelligent SA’s, since when has tacvkling been a part of rugby? eish…
2 Sep 2010, 10:25 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-287: parliarment would never allow a foreigner who has no appreciation for the unique sensitivities of our country to coach our national rugby team! SARU would have to prove to Home Affairs that no other south african has the required skill to coach the springboks hence the need to import the skill from elsewhere.
2 Sep 2010, 10:25 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-289:
As the unofficial world champions for 23 years, the all blacks know all too well how quickly and easily a team can lose all respect. I don’t know of any other nation on earth that thinks of themselves as world champions, despite never having held the official title for over 20 years.
2 Sep 2010, 10:25 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-289: “respect” will never be bowing down at the altar of ab rugby when bok rugby is historically successful in its own right.
So shout what you want about how good kiwi rugby is, most true bok supporters know the boks are second to none in terms of tradition heritage and success and won’t be convinced otherwise. But keep pi.ssing against the wind….
2 Sep 2010, 10:26 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-302: later Poppa.
2 Sep 2010, 10:31 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-302: Remember Wylie Human specifically complaining about the black players being singled out by Laurie, being made to run 3 x 150 metre sprints in succession while their white counterparts rested in the shade. He refused and was dropped for the subsequent game.
2 Sep 2010, 10:33 am
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-306:
You wern’t that successful against Sarries and Leciseter is that the heritage your talking about?
2 Sep 2010, 10:33 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-303:
“Tacvkling” has never been part of rugby…!!
2 Sep 2010, 10:35 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-303: And you’re one of the dumb Kiwis. You said that one tackle saved our WC campaign. I dont disagree. We MADE the tackle. Thus, winning the game and eventually the koppie.
Should I draw some pictures, or have you got it?
2 Sep 2010, 10:35 am
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-308:
Tired old racism card.
2 Sep 2010, 10:37 am
Yada yada yada…just another flavour of the month agenda-backed rant of an article from this rugby “news” site.
If you go and read the full quotes from PDV and the fact that these were made in light of Bees Roux’s claim that he was acting in self-defence because he was being robbed, it shows you the value of taking something within the context with which it was intended, and the damage that can be done when you deliberately take something out of context to help push an agenda.
2 Sep 2010, 10:38 am
being a coach is as much about public relations as it is coaching..It seems that all his success has been a result of all the hard work done before him and this is running out now. He has turned the springboks into a joke. If saru is convinced he is the man then why not keep him in the coaching mix and just hire a proper coach to represent us.
Forgetting all his comments, his love for earl rose, chilliboy and januarie is an insult to rugby fans and other rugby players.
im actually at a point where id be happy if they fired him and hired a chimpanzee..
Does anyone know how many test caps chilliboy has and how many minutes he’s played? amazing how our future leader doesn’t even have the leadership skills to stand up and say that he doesn’t deserve to be a bok right now, and that he should play more rugby at a lower level (and if he can’t see this then shame). Instead he’d rather play another 2 minutes and collect another test cap.
2 Sep 2010, 10:38 am
@Slartibartfart(Slartifartfast)-312: I actually agree. Think he was/is just lazy.
2 Sep 2010, 10:40 am
@Slartibartfart(Slartifartfast)-312:
Isn’t it boring, some white people don’t like black people and vice-versa big farking deal its never going to change.
2 Sep 2010, 10:41 am
@NZINCHINA(NZINCHINA)-309: yeah in the same year that those sarries/leicester “loser” Boks beat the “invincible” abs 3-0. after those losses you mentioned, many of the same “losing” boks were then part of a saffer coached baabaas side who beat the “all-conquering” abs. inconsistencies abound, hey. but hold on to that no.1 ranking, next year will be the present soon…
2 Sep 2010, 10:44 am
@NZINCHINA(NZINCHINA)-316:
It isnt boring once Skoppie is in full swing…….
2 Sep 2010, 10:45 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-302: strange but true, Laurie Mains was. I think it was main’s abrasive attitude in not tolerating incompetence or mediocrity – in Sa the normal counter for that is cry “racist”. he could not cope with that.
2 Sep 2010, 10:46 am
is there someone else who also collects the new provincial rugby cards?
2 Sep 2010, 10:47 am
@Agile T*t-Tyrant(Anairetes agilis)-318: He was in full cry..
2 Sep 2010, 10:48 am
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-321: last night.
2 Sep 2010, 10:48 am
@Agile T*t-Tyrant(Anairetes agilis)-318:
Goes on and on about something that will never change a bit like Heavens game they are very similar, I think they should both emigrate to France together.
2 Sep 2010, 10:50 am
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-321:
I could never understand why someone would ever praise Skopskiet prose?
Is he a visionary? A concealed literary genius?
Do you want to make your very own Skoppie-style post?
I’ll show you how in 6 easy steps:
Step 1: Purchase a touch screen monitor.
Step 2: Fill it with random words from the Thesaurus.
Step 3: Take it down to your local zoo, and have a chimpanzee or bonobo tap on the screen repeatedly.
Step 4: Add a few articles, descriptors, verbs, etc.
Step 5: Add any or all of the following compulsory terms:
“Twitty titty, twatass, fukadilly, prima donna, imperialist, colonialist, dom doos, whitey.”
Step 6: And finally, post it!
Yes, this may sound like a longwinded, non cost-effective way of going about it. But then again not everybody has the luxury (in this case)of having a grown chimp living under their roof, as does Skopskiet’s mother.
2 Sep 2010, 10:52 am
“There have been double standards in the handling of De Villiers when it comes to results as well.” – like the double standards in reporting on PdV by many saffer sports “journos”/bloggers with nothing more than a lynchmob mentality. hoskins not doing what you suppose he will do will lower your credibility even further. it will demonstrate that your “opinions” dressed up as facts do not count.
2 Sep 2010, 10:53 am
i dont buy all this kiwi clamouring for PdV to “stay on please because it will be sooooo good for their wc chances” at all.
in fact, i think they fear the man.
he is the only bok coach to scalp the kiwis IN NZ in the last ten years and he did it in CONSECUTIVE YEARS.
he also nilled them last year. was this not a shock to the kiwi systems? it sure was. they went into meltdown.
2 Sep 2010, 10:55 am
@rangerman(rangerman)-326:
He didn’t, the Boks did
2 Sep 2010, 10:55 am
Hi Poopa96 still on the meds
wanna share
cmon, that video the voice on it was SA, probably an expat living in Aussie
LOL we difenitely dont sound like your kissing cousins.
I have been asked if I was a KIWI(cos I was whinging so much) but saffa sounding like an aussie thats new!
Hoskins is the problem here not PDIDDY. Hoskins has no balls and is spineless and sucks ANC balls.
Pdiddy was chosen for the job so leave him alone and focus on the real issue of
SARU and its very poor management style.
Orivagina reminds me of JZ, able to squirm his way out of any hole.
Its like the Free state, ******* great players great supporters but no decent coach and no management.
Please follow the lead of one of the greatest orators of our time, Obama,
THE BUCK STOPS HERE!!!!!!!!
2 Sep 2010, 10:57 am
@Agile T*t-Tyrant(Anairetes agilis)-324: Yeah its living proof of the random chimp typing theorem.
i.e. if you put an “immortal” chimp in front of a typewriter for long enough the random tapping will cohere into something resembling shakespeare.
With kickshot it certainly isn’t shakespeare but it is coherent… barely
2 Sep 2010, 10:57 am
@Agile T*t-Tyrant(Anairetes agilis)-324:
Still the funniest guy here!
2 Sep 2010, 11:00 am
@KevinRack(KevinRack)-328: Think Harry Truman coined that term.
2 Sep 2010, 11:00 am
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-329:
Takes a chimp to read it too……
2 Sep 2010, 11:02 am
In my ideal world, PdV is given his marching orders.
Heyneke takes over and brings on Alistair Coetzee and Eddie Jones as assistants.
2 Sep 2010, 11:02 am
@Agile T*t-Tyrant(Anairetes agilis)-332: it is bloody funny, though.
2 Sep 2010, 11:02 am
@NZINCHINA(NZINCHINA)-316:
Hey.
I like white people.
2 Sep 2010, 11:03 am
@Kietzphat(Kietzphat)-333: wtF has Coetzee done to put him even as a remote wet dream consideration as a PdV successor.
2 Sep 2010, 11:04 am
@Agile T*t-Tyrant(Anairetes agilis)-324: What I will say about Skopskiet is his frantic, obesessive manner of writing is (to me) entertaining, so whilst I usually don’t take anything that he says seriously, I do enjoy some of his posts.
And no, just pushed the wrong button, trying to multi-task here.
2 Sep 2010, 11:05 am
@Dawn(Dawn)-335: Me 2. Well. I like Roxy Louw.
2 Sep 2010, 11:05 am
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-334: My thoughts too.
2 Sep 2010, 11:07 am
whether you like it or not . PDV will be the bok coach till 2011 World Cup.
2 Sep 2010, 11:08 am
338. Taahirah(Taahirah) I like the Boks medic
2 Sep 2010, 11:08 am
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-339: Kickshot, the one and only papsak philosopher.
nothing better than provoking a kickshot expletive rant – of which Rangerman seems particularly skilful.
2 Sep 2010, 11:08 am
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-337:
“pushed the wrong button…”?
Which one would that be? The “Submit Comment” button?
2 Sep 2010, 11:08 am
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-331: Truman it was. One of the best they’ve had.
2 Sep 2010, 11:09 am
Female medic oops…
2 Sep 2010, 11:09 am
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-338:
Her father used to blog here.
2 Sep 2010, 11:09 am
@rangerman(rangerman)-326:
Ranger I think your still in shock from the Bokke meltdown this year, NZ does not fear P Divvy we would love him as coach next year, don’t kid yourself mate we have his number.
2 Sep 2010, 11:10 am
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-342:
JK Rowling wrote a novel on Skoppie didn’t she?
“The Philosopher’s Stone”?
Referring to the crystal meth I presume.
2 Sep 2010, 11:12 am
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-338:
Ryan Reynolds
Hugh Jackman
Johnny Depp
Josh Harnett
Diego Forlan
A few white people of note.
I like ‘em all.
2 Sep 2010, 11:14 am
348. Agile T*t-Tyrant(Anairetes agilis) LOL **** we is he.
I call him cut and paste cos it seem to be the same shite he spews all the time and he is so easy to bait too. Hell I wish fishing was that easy.
Snoek! Vars snoek…
2 Sep 2010, 11:15 am
@Slartibartfart(Slartifartfast)-310: never made a typo yourself? bravo on your perfection…
@rugbypedia(rugbypedia)-305: show me where any kiwi has called themselves world champions?
@Tegejo(Tegejo)-311: ok then, how about 95?
having ladies come on to the pitch to sweep the water off it just so the game could be played because SA would not have progressed, then the French try that was that wasnt..?
that wasnt luck though, it was careful planning
.. lucky to find a jewellers in SA open after the match to buy time as presents huh? 
@rangerman(rangerman)-326: serious? you think we want PDV to go because we’re scared of him lmao.. thats your best post ever Ranger..
@KevinRack(KevinRack)-328: hehe, have you run out of your meds? Saffas sounding like an aussie? oh, you mean Aussie that sounds suspiciously SA, hey, I think all you okes are rubbing off on me, Im starting to believe in conspiracies..
2 Sep 2010, 11:16 am
@Slartibartfart(Slartifartfast)-346: Seriously? Used to? Why no more? Met her at a nightclub once, asked for her number ofcourse. She laughed and told me to invite her on Facebook. Never has rejection felt so good…
2 Sep 2010, 11:16 am
@Dawn(Dawn)-349:
You said you like rough cut men.
Now you name a mof-gat like Reynolds?
2 Sep 2010, 11:16 am
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-336:
Your (slightly disturbing) hatred for WP/Cape Town/Stormers is effecting your judgement.
AC has a world cup winning medal (assistant coaches also play a role and get credit for it) and has led WP to a CC semi final and the Stormers to a Super 14 final during the last 12 months.
Theere are not many coaches in SA who has achieved that and as a result he must surely be a contender
2 Sep 2010, 11:17 am
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-342: LOL that’s true, I have noticed Rangerman (another blogger I particularly enjoy) does have that effect sometimes. Grant on the other hand tends to set Rangerman off, so the wheel turns….
@Agile T*t-Tyrant(Anairetes agilis)-343: That’s the one. Instead of the trapdoor button in my office to dispose of the incompetant minion stand in front of me…..Now I have to call him back in to beat him with my stapler….
2 Sep 2010, 11:19 am
Skop blogs off his cellphone.
Cut ‘n pste not possible.
2 Sep 2010, 11:19 am
@Transformation(Transformation)-304: didnt realise it would be so complicated.. I wouldnt want a foreign coach in any respect anyways..
2 Sep 2010, 11:21 am
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-355: Lmao. And any tread with the words “John Smit”, “tighthead”, “scrum”, “captain”, “WC 2011″, “Bismarck” and “Frans Steyn” sets Grant off. Full circle.
2 Sep 2010, 11:21 am
@Agile T*t-Tyrant(Anairetes agilis)-353:
He’s not a mof-gat
Have you seen that new Hugo Boss ad
That look is to die for.
2 Sep 2010, 11:23 am
@Dawn(Dawn)-359:
I cant understand women.
The cavemen had the right idea: Just club them over the head and drag them to your cave, no harm done there. (Just remember to drag them by the hair…otherwise they fill up with sand).
2 Sep 2010, 11:23 am
Save Krusty !
2 Sep 2010, 11:24 am
@Dawn(Dawn)-359: All Hugo Boss ad models are ***. It’s in the contract. Sorry.
2 Sep 2010, 11:26 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-351: I just read through the history of RWC. It says: RWC Champs1995: South Africa. RWC Champions2007: South Africa. Luck is not mentioned ANYWHERE in those records….
It must be your imagination?
2 Sep 2010, 11:26 am
skopskiet is SA’s Ted Bundy
2 Sep 2010, 11:26 am
@Black Panther(Black Panther)-361:
Wouldn’t that be nice.
2 Sep 2010, 11:26 am
@katman(katman)-362: gey
2 Sep 2010, 11:27 am
@I_support_BEES(suffer_guy)-364: You mean Al Bundy…
2 Sep 2010, 11:27 am
@Agile T*t-Tyrant(Anairetes agilis)-348: hehehehe, Skopskiet – Harry Potter, I presume…
2 Sep 2010, 11:28 am
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-367: lol. Al’s a legend. When I grow up I want to be like Al.
2 Sep 2010, 11:28 am
@Tegejo(Tegejo)-363: who wrote the book?
2 Sep 2010, 11:28 am
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-368:
Hairy Pot.
2 Sep 2010, 11:29 am
@katman(katman)-362:
Nee man.
Ryan ain’t gey.
2 Sep 2010, 11:29 am
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-358: Totally. It’s like he has an auto search on his computer. Every time one of those key words come up he comes on to let us know exactly how he thinks…..in case we didn’t already know…..
2 Sep 2010, 11:30 am
PDV should stay where he is, he lost half his team this year to injury and suspension so NZ managed to get an edge but they’ll be back and if the SARU can get over the way the media constantly misquotes him he’ll be back too.
2 Sep 2010, 11:31 am
no al bundy is the guy from married with children
2 Sep 2010, 11:32 am
@I_support_BEES(suffer_guy)-375: I know who he is. That’s exactly who I meant.
2 Sep 2010, 11:32 am
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-373: you mean FDP, M Steyn, Genia and the like? those type of words?
2 Sep 2010, 11:34 am
@I_support_BEES(suffer_guy)-375: “Whooooooooosh!” Right over your head…
2 Sep 2010, 11:35 am
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-368: @Agile T*t-Tyrant(Anairetes agilis)-371: Skopskiet is Kramer from Seinfeld
2 Sep 2010, 11:36 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-377: Nope. Smit. And only Smit. Luke occasionally.
2 Sep 2010, 11:36 am
@Big Hit(Big Hit)-374:
SA rugby should employ the media guy from the 05′ Lions tour who successfully helped Clive with his PR on that tour.
2 Sep 2010, 11:36 am
i see Mitchell released from W Force and signed a 3 year contract with Lions.
Best coach in SA….
Watch the lions attract players now.
2 Sep 2010, 11:37 am
@Big Hit(Big Hit)-374: Lost half his team? Who FDP, Bekker, Brussouw and JPP!
Dont make stupid excuses thats not why we lost or why PDV is a fool.
2 Sep 2010, 11:37 am
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-378: Yip. Sky high. But then that’s what I’d expect from someone who collects Provincial Player Trading cards….
2 Sep 2010, 11:37 am
@Robzim(Robzim)-354: Ive said it before I don’t hate WePee or the Stormers but I do dislike the peculiar brand of hypocrisy from many of the 2 teams supporters.
you have got to be joking about Coetzee:
1. He has won nothing on his own (as head honcho) at u21, provincial or S14 level post or pre-Boks. some would say in his current guise he is nothing more than a Rassie puppet
2. He “won” a world cup medal, but what did he actually contribute in the light of the eddie jones SOS.
fark that, you need to get another worldview other than the quite frankly disturbing CTcentric all is best from WePee…
2 Sep 2010, 11:38 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-357: that’s why Beast had to get citizenship asap to be able to represent the Boks…if coaching the Boks is a ‘scarce skill’ then a foreigner can be sought to take up the post..
2 Sep 2010, 11:39 am
@NZINCHINA(NZINCHINA)-381:
2 Sep 2010, 11:39 am
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-385: CT is the centre of the Universe, the rest just haven’t figured it out yet. Particularly the Natalians. The Vallies already know it, they just like to live on the edge.
2 Sep 2010, 11:41 am
@Falken(Falken)-383:
Uhm…
Botha, Bismarck, Juan Smith
2 Sep 2010, 11:42 am
@Big Hit(Big Hit)-374:
‘misquotes’ him ?!?
dont take us ALL for fools, Lord Barry. If you want to roll out the BS then make sure its in the form of a reply to Boy George/JL1/KKK, only. These are the same people who called Krusty ‘the Wee Maestro’ when the scoresheet said 3-0 and ran for the hills when it later read 0-3.
2 Sep 2010, 11:43 am
@Transformation(Transformation)-386: one could argue that it IS a scarce skill
2 Sep 2010, 11:43 am
@Falken(Falken)-383: @PissAnt(PissAnt)-389: I distinctly remember Jake White in a losing post match interview petulantly bluting out that “it’s not like I have a fit Ashwin Willemse..”
2 Sep 2010, 11:43 am
@PissAnt(PissAnt)-389: Juan Smith was not injured, The only thing Botha injured was the back of Cowans head and his wallet.
Bissie is available but apparently not good enough.
2 Sep 2010, 11:44 am
just a thanks to all the bloggers whatever their opinions. You are the driving force behind this site. Keo should just put down headlines and let us do the rest. The articles are a klom k@k in any case
2 Sep 2010, 11:45 am
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-388: lol. Im from Cape Town but moved down to Pretoria recently. Upon hearing this each and every single Pretorian asks the same question: “Why????”
2 Sep 2010, 11:45 am
@Agile T*t-Tyrant(Anairetes agilis)-371: hehehe
2 Sep 2010, 11:47 am
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-395: you mean up to Pretoria?? And yeah, WHY??
2 Sep 2010, 11:47 am
@Transformation(Transformation)-386:
How about Martin Johnson, I hear he’ll be looking for work just before Xmas?
2 Sep 2010, 11:47 am
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-395: And the answer in almost every circumstance is “for the money”….
2 Sep 2010, 11:48 am
@Falken(Falken)-393:
Big Hit:
PDV should stay where he is, he lost half his team this year to injury and suspension.
Juan Smith made himself unavailable for the away leg of the 3N.
Botha played all of 60 minutes.
Bismarck only returned to rugby once the Boks finished the away leg of the 3N.
2 Sep 2010, 11:50 am
Can some one tell me what interest Renal Hoskins actually has in Rugby other than Money? Did he play rugby? Coach it? Watch it on tv?
2 Sep 2010, 11:50 am
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-399: lol. Yep. Though I am also a Bulls supporter, so Loftus contributed. Moving back down in a year or 5 though. There’s only so much nothingness a man can take!
2 Sep 2010, 11:51 am
@saru1983(saru1983)-394:
What articles?
You mean blog entries?
2 Sep 2010, 11:51 am
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-388: Yeah, the centre of the universe, a farking black hole collapsing in on itself under the dense weight of hype and mass-hypocrisy. kiwis and capetonians, cut from the same cloth, both think they are at this centre of the universe, the bigarsed nought of rugger…
2 Sep 2010, 11:51 am
@Guns(Guns)-401: If memory serves me correct his post is not a salaried one. Can anyone confirm?
2 Sep 2010, 11:52 am
@saru1983(saru1983)-394: So are you an ex-player from SARU?
2 Sep 2010, 11:53 am
@PissAnt(PissAnt)-400: Ok fine then go count that? 1…2…3 in a country that has the most players in the world that should not affect us.
You cant blame injuries. Thats just sad.
2 Sep 2010, 11:54 am
@saru1983(saru1983)-394:
Who are you.
2 Sep 2010, 11:55 am
@Agile T*t-Tyrant(Anairetes agilis)-403: referring to those pieces done by the journos on this site
2 Sep 2010, 11:55 am
@Guns(Guns)-401: he did play rugby and was probably at least as good as louie luyt when he did.
2 Sep 2010, 11:56 am
@Dawn(Dawn)-408: Dont bother. I tried yesterday.
2 Sep 2010, 11:56 am
Blaming Hoskins for P Divvy’s failures and status as a clown fisherman is really not fair
2 Sep 2010, 11:56 am
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-404: Thanks. Now that we have established our superiority, you may now continue your tirade…..
2 Sep 2010, 11:57 am
@Dawn(Dawn)-408: @Dawn(Dawn)-408: an ex player lets just leave it at that
2 Sep 2010, 11:57 am
@saru1983(saru1983)-409: “Whoooooosh”
Wow. There seems to be a lot of that going around today.
2 Sep 2010, 11:57 am
Hoskins needs to take responsibility for hiring Divvy in the first place.
Hoskins said that they had picked Divvy as the quota coach rather than picking someone who was well qualified to do the job and knew how to speak to the press and to manage a team.
Divvy has been an embarrassment and a liability since day 1. The world champs are now more like world chumps and for this Gary Gold and **** Muir need to take responsibility as well.
2 Sep 2010, 11:58 am
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-411: you called me an all muslims pigs yesterday. stay out of my business and ill ignore you
2 Sep 2010, 11:59 am
@Dawn(Dawn)-408: Some dude who played rugby in 1983. So did I by the way, for the Std 5 Under 14 A team….
2 Sep 2010, 11:59 am
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-413: yeah, clear superiority in allfart noshit hype, as credible as a Keo “journo”
2 Sep 2010, 11:59 am
@saru1983(saru1983)-417: Yes I did. Swine.
2 Sep 2010, 11:59 am
@Falken(Falken)-407:
Given the names you mentioned, and those I added, I count seven.
Just about half the team or about a third of a match day 22.
All vital, most of them, starting 15 players.
There is a difference between an excuse, and factors that play a part.
2 Sep 2010, 11:59 am
@NZINCHINA(NZINCHINA)-398: johnno is not a coach’s arse…
2 Sep 2010, 12:00 pm
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-415:
Did you call him a pig??????????????????
2 Sep 2010, 12:01 pm
@fish out of water(fish out of water)-416: PdV has a better record than JW pre-WC, whatever the mistakes made in appointing him…
2 Sep 2010, 12:01 pm
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-420: no class
i can see why your ex left you
2 Sep 2010, 12:01 pm
@saru1983(saru1983)-414: Alistair Coetzee?
2 Sep 2010, 12:01 pm
@Dawn(Dawn)-423: Yes. He started the name-calling though. I decided to hit him where it hurts.
2 Sep 2010, 12:02 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-422: I agree. Only half decent as a player and lucky to be part of that “Perfect Storm” that won them a WC.
2 Sep 2010, 12:02 pm
@Dawn(Dawn)-423: because he knows im muslim and he wants to upset me
he is still a child héll grow up someday
2 Sep 2010, 12:03 pm
@saru1983(saru1983)-425: Dude. You started the name-calling, remember? I was more than willing to debate issues without resorting to pettiness, you refused to give me that option though.
2 Sep 2010, 12:03 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-418:
Std 5 U/14′s huh?
So how many times did you fail? You know, that being the centre of the universe and all, I guess nothing isn’t good enough for mommy’s little pookey.
2 Sep 2010, 12:04 pm
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-427: you didnt attack me you attacked my religion theres a difference
2 Sep 2010, 12:05 pm
@saru1983(saru1983)-429:
Isn’t it againt the Koran to blog?
You didn’t do your Hafez, did you?
2 Sep 2010, 12:06 pm
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-430: Are you a punkie
no i am not a pig
does that ring a bell
2 Sep 2010, 12:08 pm
@saru1983(saru1983)-432: Like you attacked my sexuality. You came on here, during the month of Ramadaan, making outlandish and hateful statements. When I called you on it, reminding you that you are discrediting the legacy of men such as Gary Boshoff, Irven October, Allister Coetzee you resorted to petty insults. I conceded and dropped down to your level. And will do so again in the future.
2 Sep 2010, 12:08 pm
@Falken(Falken)-407: sa having the most players in the world means nothing when some of the players you boast about are wynand olivier, earl rose, herkie kruger, lawrence sephaka, jaco van der westhyzen, danwell demas, andries strauss etc , quantity has never and won’t ever mean quality!
Wp might have the most rugby schools than any other province, it doesn’t mean province should win craven week every year…
EP might have the most numbe rof young black rugby players in the country, it doesn’t mean they are all quality!
2 Sep 2010, 12:08 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-410:
AaH OK, was curious.. lol louie luyt.. Can’t even remember him I was too young and did not care about the politics back then…
2 Sep 2010, 12:09 pm
.
Save Krusty !
2 Sep 2010, 12:09 pm
@Agile T*t-Tyrant(Anairetes agilis)-433: lol
2 Sep 2010, 12:10 pm
I must admit, I find it hard to keep up with all the personas on this site. I’m so ADHD I can hardly remember what I did yesterday. Who’s White, black, Coulored, Asian, Crustaceon, Human, Male, Female. Personally I don’t care. I take you as I find you. If your posts are worth a response, I’ll post one (positive or negative). If not, I move on. Life’s too short.
There are some posters who i have gotten to know over time, and I tend to cut them more slack than others, as i understand where they are coming from, even if I don’t agree with what they say. Grant is a perfect example of this. I’ve had occasion to deal with him outside of this site, and have found him to be a great guy, and well respected in his field. And I know that he doesn;t take himself too seriously on this blog, and particularly enjoys some of the reaction that he gets.
2 Sep 2010, 12:10 pm
@saru1983(saru1983)-434:
The great Mo’Hammered (peace be upon him), forbode blogging as that was how heresy began: by infidels scratching “blog” posts on cave walls.
2 Sep 2010, 12:11 pm
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-435: explain to me how i discredited these men please im awaiting your response
2 Sep 2010, 12:13 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-428: and a “perfect storm” of winning in NZ despite two men sent off by a friendly ref.
It was the funniest thing seeing a 6 man scrum in white shoving those eternal “no. 1.s” to kingdom come.
that same team gave the Boks a hiding second to none at twickenham led by that “half-decent” player who also led a BI Lions to a series win in Sa.
I think that “half-decent” player has more credibility than the current WePee or Stormers coach…
It could go on and on…
2 Sep 2010, 12:13 pm
Just for Grant and others information, Hoskens does not have the power to unilaterally fire PdV, neither did he hire him in the first place. Both decisions are made by a majority vote of the PC.
2 Sep 2010, 12:14 pm
@Agile T*t-Tyrant(Anairetes agilis)-431: Well spotted. It was in fact U13.
2 Sep 2010, 12:15 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-440: same here…
2 Sep 2010, 12:17 pm
I see good and bad in PdV – he is obviously well liked by most of the players (good thing) but his PR can be terrible. His coaching ability is still up for debate albeit I do not think him the best person for the job; his record is reasonable. With the administrators he has to deal with I have some sympathy for him.
On the Bees issue – personally I do not find much wrong with his statement. All he said it that the team and him support Bees as a rugby player – not the action/deed. He supports the person as he knows him…and that **** happens. This tells me the guy has some empathy – a good trait.
As a person I quite like him as he has character. Coaching ability? Dunno. But half the job of a coach is to settle a team dynamic and here he does pass.
2 Sep 2010, 12:17 pm
@David(David)-444:
Aaaahh man!
I was enjoying the Keo ‘Bloggers’ grasping at straws!!!
Dammit David!
2 Sep 2010, 12:17 pm
@David(David)-444:
Can Hoskins bilaterally fire PdV?
2 Sep 2010, 12:17 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-443: Yes, the perfect combination that comes along every so seldom, and usually doesn’t last long. A 2 year period of dominance, something to watch. Deserved winners in 2003.
Johnson is still a muirhead in my book though…..
2 Sep 2010, 12:18 pm
@saru1983(saru1983)-442: Here’s the entire conversation:
• 244. saru1983(saru1983) :
September 1st, 2010 at 3:25 pm
why would PDV even stand up for a murdering farmer like bees roux thats just dumb they dont even like PDV.
If PDV gets fired it serves him right and he should have nothing to do with rugby again the same should be done to rouxs rugby friends who support him but not the action.
And then all the selectors who picked henry tromp ,the original murdering farmer, should be banned from rugby altogether and his springbok friends should all return their blazers
• 246. saru1983(saru1983) :
September 1st, 2010 at 3:27 pm
lock bees roux up and throw away the key or hang him he is a murderer
• 250. saru1983(saru1983) :
September 1st, 2010 at 3:29 pm
zero tolerance for cop killers and their supporters
• 264. Taahirah(Taahirah) :
September 1st, 2010 at 3:39 pm
@saru1983(saru1983)-250: If you’re gonna troll, at least change your nick. You are destroying a wonderful rugby legacy with your ignorance.
• 277. saru1983(saru1983) :
September 1st, 2010 at 3:46 pm
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-264: yo siesa ignorance destruction and legacy in the same sentence you must b a uct girl
• 279. Taahirah(Taahirah) :
September 1st, 2010 at 3:50 pm
@saru1983(saru1983)-277: Stellenbosch boy actually.
• 281. saru1983(saru1983) :
September 1st, 2010 at 3:51 pm
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-264: im a part of that legacy why would i want to destroy it. The original SARU that is not this bastardised version
• 287. saru1983(saru1983) :
September 1st, 2010 at 3:53 pm
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-279: then you must be a bunny
• 300. Taahirah(Taahirah) :
September 1st, 2010 at 3:56 pm
@saru1983(saru1983)-281: Whats your name?
• 303. Taahirah(Taahirah) :
September 1st, 2010 at 3:58 pm
@saru1983(saru1983)-287: Its the name of an ex-girlfriend. Whats yours? Dont hide behind the nick.
• 308. Taahirah(Taahirah) :
September 1st, 2010 at 4:01 pm
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-303: Thought so. You must have played for Tygerberg back then. They were cowards then. You’re a coward now.
• 315. saru1983(saru1983) :
September 1st, 2010 at 4:04 pm
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-308: i played for WP tygerberg were moffies like you.Ek is van die original boetas
• 318. Taahirah(Taahirah) :
September 1st, 2010 at 4:06 pm
@saru1983(saru1983)-315: Again. Your name.
• 322. saru1983(saru1983) :
September 1st, 2010 at 4:08 pm
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-318: its been given here before if you a punkie you will kno who i am made my saru debut in 83 hence the nick
• 325. saru1983(saru1983) :
September 1st, 2010 at 4:10 pm
@saru1983(saru1983)-322: but i assume sine you a stellenbosch boy you a bit too young to really tell about the track
• 355. Taahirah(Taahirah) :
September 1st, 2010 at 4:27 pm
@saru1983(saru1983)-322: You’d be surprised how much I know. Dad played for Somerset Rugby Board. No, Im not a pig, I take it you are. Hungry?
You really think those men would make such ooutlandish statements? About the Bees Roux issue? You think they would pre-judge it the way you have? Come on. As for the comments made, I think you’ll find I’ve showed reasonable restraint when you started with the insults.
2 Sep 2010, 12:18 pm
@green field(green field)-447: No he said he was offering support in the incidents that led up to the deed, not the deed itself.
2 Sep 2010, 12:18 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-445:
Which one did I spot well?
That you can’t count or that you fail a year in primary?
————————————————->
2 Sep 2010, 12:19 pm
…or both?
2 Sep 2010, 12:21 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-440: Where are G10 and mini-me (justrugby). I am missing their holier-than-thou, white middle-aged liberal midlifecrisis liberation theology….
2 Sep 2010, 12:21 pm
Guys, leave religion out of it…………
On another note:
Q What do female Muslims use for birth control?
A: Their faces.
Q: What’s the difference between a Muslim and a dead horse?
A. It’s no fun beating a dead horse.
Q. What’s the difference between an American BBQ and an Islamic BBQ?
Q. What do you say to a Muslim with his arm all the way up a camel’s rump?
A. “Having car trouble?”
2 Sep 2010, 12:23 pm
@Agile T*t-Tyrant(Anairetes agilis)-453: Yeah yeah whatever…Haven’t failed anything acedemically in my life. Failed at other things. Many times.
2 Sep 2010, 12:24 pm
@Agile T*t-Tyrant(Anairetes agilis)-449:
2 Sep 2010, 12:26 pm
@Fidget(Fidget)-456: and thats a fatwa for you. naughty, naughty…
2 Sep 2010, 12:26 pm
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-451: im one of them played with irvine boshoff and toet.everything i said was tongue in cheek i am a pdv supporterbut then again sarcasm doesnt translate very well to writing does it
your dad played for sw board.he knows the oppurtunities he missed out on so to say all of us sees the white bok team which i was referring to as our legacy is just plain dumb or short sighted
2 Sep 2010, 12:26 pm
@Fidget(Fidget)-456:
I dunno, What’s the difference between an American BBQ and an Islamic BBQ?
2 Sep 2010, 12:26 pm
@PissAnt(PissAnt)-421: The only notable losses is FDP and Juan Smith!
Bismarck would have played second string to Plod.
JPP was replaced by a better and more willing Gio Aplon.
Botha was replaced by Rossouw who is more than capable.
We were outplayed 3 times by NZ and once by Oz. Why is that so hard to admit for every one?
2 Sep 2010, 12:27 pm
@Agile T*t-Tyrant(Anairetes agilis)-461:
Tell me?
2 Sep 2010, 12:27 pm
@PissAnt(PissAnt)-448:
Just couldn’t let the dream go on any longer.
2 Sep 2010, 12:28 pm
Q. What do Muslim men do during foreplay?
A. Tickle the goat under the chin.
2 Sep 2010, 12:28 pm
@Falken(Falken)-462:
Now that is just your opinion.
Reality is, Bismarck, Bakkies, JPP, Juan and Brussow all held starting positions the last tests they played for the Boks…
2 Sep 2010, 12:29 pm
@PissAnt(PissAnt)-466:
Forgot to add FDP but that goes without saying.
2 Sep 2010, 12:30 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-455: all this race and now relgious intolerance seriously just makes me sad.
Best i rather stay on the sidelines….
But ja…i can understand you miss us….we quality okes…
2 Sep 2010, 12:31 pm
@SuperStirrer(SuperStirrer)-154: LOL… I like this comment, I think they should do what rugbyheaven does and say “Opinion story by (writer)”
2 Sep 2010, 12:32 pm
@Fidget(Fidget)-463:
Well an American BBQ is good for the whole family.
2 Sep 2010, 12:32 pm
@saru1983(saru1983)-460: If it was sarcastic I apologise. You should try smilies though.
You get the idea. Im not saying you see the Bok team as your legacy. Im saying by making such outlandish statements you are hurting THEIR legacy. Im saying that to have people associate that type of trolling with SARU1983 it automatically impacts upon them as well. So if that is what you wish to convey, dont drag their names through the mud as well, blog under your own name.
2 Sep 2010, 12:34 pm
@Agile T*t-Tyrant(Anairetes agilis)-461:
@Fidget(Fidget)-463:
Oh,
Q. What’s the difference between an American BBQ and an Islamic BBQ?
A. In America, Humans roast animals over a fire. In Islam, it’s the other way around.
2 Sep 2010, 12:34 pm
My penny’s worth:
Let’s see how Absa feels when we, the consumers, start asking questions about their support of PDV’s utterances.
I did it to Spar recently when they supported racism in the selection of provincial netball tournaments. I received an immediate reply from them, wanting to know what I mean by my questions: “Does the management of Spar differentiate between black people’s money and white people’s money? Do you condone the blatant racial preference given to sports people? Is it your official policy to make distinction between races?”
The correspondence is ongoing.
The same should be done with ABSA. I think I will write them a letter, once they become the official sponsors, and ask them if they support PDV’s views. I will do the same with Coca Cola who owns Energade and Vodacom – another sponsor of the Boks.
In this professional era we as consumers have to stand up for our rights and we have to realize that we, as the paying public, actually have a strong voice regarding the way our teams are managed.
The electronic media gives us a fantastic platform from which we can initiate collective action against sponsors. So, let’s wait and see what PDV comes up with in the next press conference and let’s see how the Boks perform this Saturday
2 Sep 2010, 12:35 pm
@grant10(grant10)-468: jeez, without the can’t-touch-me psalms and proverbs from you and JR there’s not nearly as much fun here.
2 Sep 2010, 12:35 pm
@Falken(Falken)-462: Ok. I admit it.
2 Sep 2010, 12:37 pm
@Fidget(Fidget)-456: School holidays over there, is it?
2 Sep 2010, 12:37 pm
@Couchcoach(GI POT)-473: Maria Ramos is the head honcho at ABSA. Trevor Manuel is her husband. We all know who Trevor supports. If that was their line of thinking they’d not have appointed her in the first place.
2 Sep 2010, 12:38 pm
@saru1983(saru1983)-460: Why isn’t the Bok team your “legacy”? and how is the Bok team “white”?
2 Sep 2010, 12:38 pm
@PissAnt(PissAnt)-466: Totally agree but he would not have picked Bismarck to start.
In fact he is fit and firing but PDV stil persist with his political pawn.
On Current form JPP is lazy and Aplon is a better pick.
Brussouw has no replacement so that is bad but PDV would have persisted with the combo of Smith Burger Spies.
He only picked Brussouw last time around because he was forced to.
But that only my opinion.
I am just tired of everyone make excuses when clearly we were outplayed.
2 Sep 2010, 12:39 pm
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-471: that is not their/our legacy you r confusing the two springbok unions
we were saru
whites were sarb
different legacies different people
2 Sep 2010, 12:40 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-459: That’s exactly what I thought. Deserves a banning IMO.
2 Sep 2010, 12:40 pm
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-471: still doesnt excuse your remarks though
2 Sep 2010, 12:41 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-478: im talkin bout back in the day
2 Sep 2010, 12:44 pm
@saru1983(saru1983)-460:
“• 250. saru1983(saru1983) :
September 1st, 2010 at 3:29 pm
zero tolerance for cop killers and their supporters”
How is this toungue-in-check???
2 Sep 2010, 12:44 pm
@saru1983(saru1983)-480: No Im not. You’re not getting it. Im saying: The SARU men of 1983 are (mostly) honorable people. Despite the unjust system they were subjected to they rose above it. Proud, fierce but also humble and intelligent. If you indeed are a member of the SARU1983 players your conduct on this blog does not reflect these traits. And by using the SARU1983 name you are also belittling these men, their achievements and intelligence.
2 Sep 2010, 12:44 pm
@Falken(Falken)-479:
We were, and all Big Hit pointed out is that the loss of key players played some part in that.
It is not the only reason, but definitely a contributing factor.
2 Sep 2010, 12:44 pm
cheek
2 Sep 2010, 12:45 pm
Keo tell us why pdv must stay!!
White must stay
Firing Jake White now would be adding to
the crisis and not the solution. White has to
stay as Bok coach, but he also has to
embrace some radical change.
At the beginning of the year White boldly
declared he had pretty much picked his
World Cup squad. It was crazy talk and as
much was said at the time. White was
reminded that there was not just one Super
14, Tri Nations and end of year tour still to
come. There was in fact two Super 14s, two
Tri Nations, two Currie Cups and one end of
year tour. That ’s a whole lot of rugby.
Within six months of making that statement,
more than half of White ’s World Cup
certainties are either crocked, out of form
or six months too old for test rugby. Never
underestimate the magnetic appeal of
youth and also don ’t make the mistake of
interpreting being too old for test rugby as
something that is measured from a date of
birth certificate.
White made mistakes in not resting his
established stars for last year ’s end of
season tour. He stuck with the same old
same old to play the Pumas, Wales and then
France. It was a missed opportunity. So too
was the warm-up match against the World
XV and the two-test home series against an
ordinary Scottish team that talked a game
far greater than their natural talents allowed
them to play.
There has not been a succession plan since
the 2004 Tri Nations was won on league
bonus points. There has only been a false
dawn and White has been his own worst
enemy.
But that does not make him a bad coach or
mean he has no role to play. All the
negatives of the last year have to be
counter-balanced with what White has
achieved since 2004. When put on the scale,
it tips in White ’s favour.
The Bok coach deserves the support of an
administration that is willing him to fail ever
since he held a gun to their heads, but then did not have the conviction to pull the
trigger. As such he is now the one with the
gun to his head. White played dangerous
games and lost. But the administration must
be bigger than the mind games and they
must look to the well-being of Bok rugby.
White must put behind him all the
contradictions and all the fearless talk of the
last year, when his ego loomed larger than
even Bono ’s.
There’s a great little joke that asks what the
difference is between God and Bono? The
answer: “God doesn’t strut around Dublin
believing he is Bono.’
The same could be said of White in the last
six months. He did not allow for his views
to be challenged. He did not believe they
could be challenged. He had all the answers.
At least that ’s what he thought.
White’s world, in Cape Town and in
Brisbane, has been crushed. There was not
a bubble to prick. His was more a planet that
imploded.
But he survives and the gamekeepers of
rugby in South Africa need to restore life to
White. They need to revive the 2004
version that arrived loaded with ideas,
innovation and humility. The guy who said
he would coach the Boks for free and not
the guy who a month ago wanted financial
security until the end of 2009.
The squad has to change. Too many players
in White ’s line-up are not good enough. The
support staff also has to change. Too few
provide an alternative to White. And the
Boks need to invest in a team manager,
worthy of the description, and a full-time
defence coach, whose presence is constant
and not an event.
It is no coincidence that when Gary Gold
worked for five successive weeks with the
Boks in 2004, they were precise in their
execution of the rush defence. They all
understood it. They all believed in the
system and with Gold hands on in the
education thereof, White could watch from
a distance with the necessary clarity.
Then White took charge of the backs, the
defence and the technical analysis. His
vision became blurred. He favoured players,
refused to see their faults and backed them
despite the obvious limitations. He was too
close to make the call and made none,
preferring to preach the gospel of his
chosen few, while immaturely trashing the
claims of those outside of the inner circle.
It also helped that he had a saint in Schalk
Burger who guided his every move.
Burger is gone, at least for six months, and
White must rethink strategy and selection.
Clearly his fellow selectors carry paperbags
as influence. There is no substance to the
selection panel, otherwise how do you
explain the continued omission of Schalk
Brits, Luke Watson, Ruan Pienaar and Brad
Barritt, among others.
You don’t.
But no one challenged that.
White, the slate wiped clean after Brisbane
and the away leg of the Tri Nations, needs
to do the same thing when it comes to
players. He needs to forget the trash talk
against those players he prejudged on
hearsay and hairstyles and he needs to
embrace the leaders and strong characters
who will make him successful once again.
White was often quoted as saying that he
(alone) would not win South Africa the
World Cup. What he did not add was that he
(alone) could lose South Africa the World
Cup.
White needs a new team, more than South
Africa needs a new coach.
If he is not capable of putting together that
team, then SARU ’s President’s Council needs
to give him two selectors with balls big
enough to make the calls that will win us
games.
Monday, July
17th, 2006
2 Sep 2010, 12:45 pm
tongue
2 Sep 2010, 12:45 pm
@saru1983(saru1983)-482: But it excuses yours? Dont be a hypocrite.
2 Sep 2010, 12:45 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-474: to be honest HG i am a bit deflated with the rugby scene actually. 2010 really been a wasted opportunity for pdv and boks…..its all stale and same old at the moment.
I enjoyed last year ….maybe because i had a crusade or 2 ….with Smit at 3 and the debate over the fetcher….which was a passion and a cause i enjoyed fighting…..
Battles fought….now its a bit of an anti climax….
I am sure i will be back when i next spot a flaw in the set up i feel passionate about.
2 Sep 2010, 12:45 pm
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-477: No, you misunderstand. I am not saying that we should play the race card and try and squeeze their guilt glands. I am saying that we should just get them to admit publicly that they support the views expressed by the coach of the team that carries their logo.
In this day and age of strike action, it is maybe time that we use the commercial boycott actions that put Manual and co in the positions that they are/were in. We have the power. It is our money that pays PDV’s salary. We to watch the games on TV, we make use of the companies that sponsor the teams, we buy the tickets to the games and we buy the merchandise with the Bok emblem on it.
Forget about crying on the street corners and trying to engage in debates on public forums. If we are serious about having accountability and performance, hit them where it hurts. Withhold our money and make them realize who has the power.
2 Sep 2010, 12:45 pm
@Muttonbird(Muttonbird)-475:
2 Sep 2010, 12:46 pm
@Muttonbird(Muttonbird)-484: do you believe otherwise
cop killers should then b set free
2 Sep 2010, 12:46 pm
@Couchcoach(GI POT)-473: Most sponsors of the Boks, like the Bok players and management, realise that many of those who profess to support the boks, are idiots… and there seems to be a coincidental fact that many of those idiots are WePee supporters and CT “journos”.
Go ahead, it eventually sounds like a yapping poodle… an excuse for a bark and definitely no bite of consequence…
2 Sep 2010, 12:50 pm
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-485: mayb you not gettin it
and can you honestly say that me calling you a moffie after discovering you a boy with a nick like taahirah is the same as referring to all muslims as pigs.
and isnt taahirah a muslim name
isnt this your ex girlfriend
what will she think of you
2 Sep 2010, 12:50 pm
@grant10(grant10)-491: indeed, a new 3 and a new fetcher and the Boks were soundly beaten
2 Sep 2010, 12:51 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-495: but some of them are sharks fans too…
2 Sep 2010, 12:51 pm
@saru1983(saru1983)-494: I thought the phrase “tongue-in-cheek” implied sarcasm which implies you disagree with the statement you have made which means you disagree with your “tongue-in-cheek” statement:
“zero tolerance for cop killers and their supporters” – SARU1983@250
Am I wrong?
2 Sep 2010, 12:52 pm
@saru1983(saru1983)-480: Only thing that is of importance now, dude, is that there is one Springbok and one SARU. Give it a rest will you? We have been around the neighbourhood on the different past legacies – its just pretty words used by people with a bone to pick and who are unwilling to let go of their past.
Apartheid was ****, we know, get over it already ffs
2 Sep 2010, 12:53 pm
@poppa69(poppa69)-52:post 52 and 68, are you moaning about the refs in the S14…a Kiwi moaning about the ref? I can’t believe this, never thought that could happen!
Are you the pot and us Saffas the kettle?
2 Sep 2010, 12:54 pm
@saru1983(saru1983)-483: I’ve been following your remarks the last few days and let me say this:
I don’t know you and have no idea where you come from and what you represent. The only way any of us have of forming any sort of opinion is based on what you post. So be careful when you choose to post something, you can be sure it will be forever out there. Making petty remarks and resorting to a slagging match with another blogger also does very little positive for anyone’s opinion of you. So just be aware, you reap what you sow. Positive and negative.
2 Sep 2010, 12:55 pm
@Muttonbird(Muttonbird)-499: you right i didnt answer your original question i just answered it with a question of my own
2 Sep 2010, 12:56 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-495: Are you a Bok supporter, then? And, if you are, do you resort under those that you call “idiots”? And, by idiots, do you mean people who are just willing to follow the trends without realizing that they have the power to change things?
On the whole though, I think your post was a brilliant summary of your own characther
2 Sep 2010, 12:58 pm
@JA-JA(JA-JA)-501: did you not see those yellow things at the end of the sentences?
theyre called smilies or emoticons, usually indicative of a “tongue in cheek” comment..
I could be wrong though
2 Sep 2010, 12:58 pm
@saru1983(saru1983)-496: My ex-girlfriend knows me. You dont. She will base her assessment of me and my religious tolerance on my life span as a whole. So will a Muslim friend of mine who follows this blog and knows my nick. Question is: What wil they and their fellow Muslims think of you? Advocating death. Insulting the sexuality of others during the month of Ramadaan?
2 Sep 2010, 12:58 pm
@grant10(grant10)-491: “battles”, hehehe. Well Barney is still captain, PdV still coach and WePee or Stormers cant win a tourny other than the preseason plascon velvet cup
You also know there’s a bad moon rising from the east – the cream has risen to the top of the CC log and there will be a place in the final for 2 only – Bulls and sharks, my prediction with a possible cheetahs gatecrash as usual. wePee will have to retire to lick their wounds… again
yeah some battles still to be fought but this blogger thinks that you have given up the ghost at the futility of it all…
eventually reality dawns on us all…
2 Sep 2010, 12:58 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-502: ditto for others
2 Sep 2010, 13:00 pm
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-506: please
no real muslim will let you get away with that.You r talking k@k
2 Sep 2010, 13:01 pm
@Couchcoach(GI POT)-504: Yes I support the Bok captain, the Bok players and the relatively successful Bok coach – which clearly you don’t for some idiotic reason…
2 Sep 2010, 13:01 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-507: lmao @ ‘plascon double velvet’ cup!
2 Sep 2010, 13:01 pm
@JA-JA(JA-JA)-501: and post 68 was not about the S14 at all?
are you drunk or stoned?
2 Sep 2010, 13:03 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-488: Pdv is going nowhere.
You know that.
2 Sep 2010, 13:03 pm
@saru1983(saru1983)-509: And real Muslims troll during Ramadaan?
2 Sep 2010, 13:03 pm
@saru1983(saru1983)-508: Yes, for everyone.
2 Sep 2010, 13:03 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-507:
ja…..
true….reality is its just opinions……
as for smit….lets see…..13 months a long time.
will be keen to see if he retains the rabid support once he dons the Lions clours….
Sharksworld bloggers seem relieved he is allegedly on way out.
2 Sep 2010, 13:04 pm
@poppa69(poppa69)-498: “many of those”… you will find most shark fans of course are more loyal and knowledgable, similar to many bulls bloggers…
2 Sep 2010, 13:04 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-507:
“eventually reality dawns on us all”
when do you think it will dawn for you?
2 Sep 2010, 13:05 pm
apparently comments made on keo dont count
so dont judge me
2 Sep 2010, 13:06 pm
@grant10(grant10)-516: Lions colours – a wet dream until long after the wc, when barney is using a zimmer frame. even then he will be good enough to get a “watertight” Lions contract…
2 Sep 2010, 13:06 pm
“MOT”, but the people here are “upset”!!
2 Sep 2010, 13:07 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-511: ask grantie – he was over the moon when the stormers actually won something…
2 Sep 2010, 13:08 pm
@saru1983(saru1983)-519: personally i had enough of you
my name is anwar majiet ( molla)
now whats yours
2 Sep 2010, 13:08 pm
@saru1983(saru1983)-519: No, they do. I said my ex’s judgement of me will be holistically, that includes Keo.
2 Sep 2010, 13:10 pm
leave it here i’ll be back later
2 Sep 2010, 13:11 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-507: Burger is back at openside too!
2 Sep 2010, 13:13 pm
@poppa69(poppa69)-505: @poppa69(poppa69)-512: No I’m just really bored at work, I just needed some reaction and that seemed like it would work and it did
2 Sep 2010, 13:13 pm
@saru1983(saru1983)-523: I doubt it. Anwar Majiet withdrew himself from the Club Champs once coz it coincided with Ramadaan. He wouldnt desecrate the holy month with the type of comments you’ve been making. Try another one.
2 Sep 2010, 13:14 pm
@poppa69(poppa69)-518: The reality that the Boks are second to none in terms of rugby history, heritage, 2 WCs, hollywood movie, opus book… yeah I’ve accepted reality and am thankful that my birthright gives me the priviledge of being the supporter of the best team on the planet…
i also am lucky enough to support the second best team on the planet – Sharks forever!!!
2 Sep 2010, 13:15 pm
@rossoneri(rossoneri)-513: why do you say that?
2 Sep 2010, 13:15 pm
@Big Hit(Big Hit)-526: hehehe, and no “fetcher” in sight. fark, grantie has lost many battles….
2 Sep 2010, 13:18 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-530: C’mon. Do you really think, 1 year from the WC they are going to change coaches and pay the current trio out of their contracts? Nah. Government might not be happy with Pdv, but they have their hands full with the strike to really make a scene about it.
2 Sep 2010, 13:19 pm
@Big Hit(Big Hit)-526: yeah
the fat boys club fully in control.
Let them do there best….
personally i look forward to the end of wc 2011…..sadly for boks probably quarter finals….
then a rebuild …..that will be exciting….
now its all very predictable and a bit ho hum really.
and all roads lead to the same destination….
Tears and Anguish Avenue….
2 Sep 2010, 13:23 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-510: “Some idiotic reason” If all else fails, revert to insults.
I support the Boks, will be at the game in Bloem on Saturday. I was over the moon with the way the guys played last year and I thought this is going to be the season of all seasons when we beat the French. But then we ran into an AB team who worked us out and beat us at our own game and since then it has been a painful process of watching the Boks fall apart.
Even more painful is seeing how Plum is turning the Sharks into a complete rugby team. The Sharks are fast moving up my ranking of favorite teams. Why is it painful? Because the systems are better than at the Boks.
The defensive system at the Stormers was better than at the Boks. The Bulls played the kick-chase game better than the Boks. Do you think this is right? Have we become so weak in the brain that we can accept mediocrity at our national team when provincial and franchise teams are moving with the times while the Boks stagnate?
My support of the coach is not based on sentiment, on who I support or the colour of his skin. I base my assessment of the coach on how tactically astute he is, on the sense that he talks at press conferences and the emotional maturity that he shows when under pressure. PDV was brilliant when things went well for us, but now he is coming apart at the seams and it is ugly.
We may win a ouple of games here and there, but mark my words, unless there is drastic change in personnel; both players and coaching staff, we are going to have our arses handed to us at next years WC and it may even happen against Wales in the group stages.
2 Sep 2010, 13:24 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-531: ja
lost many
fact.
2 Sep 2010, 13:25 pm
@grant10(grant10)-533: Many tears when Barney holds up the WC again… The puke will be nothing more than a distant **** in the wind then… g10, you gonna be a right sad sack when that happens and when the CC final is between sharks and BB… yup, big buffalo tears coming…
2 Sep 2010, 13:25 pm
@Couchcoach(GI POT)-534: agree 100 % .
2 Sep 2010, 13:26 pm
@Big Hit(Big Hit)-526:nooooooooo
2 Sep 2010, 13:29 pm
@Couchcoach(GI POT)-534: How many players were missing from the Bok lineup – notice with the return of 2 of those (Smith and jPP) already a bit of a difference…
irrational to say the boks are “mediocre”.
btw, wePee defence not too solid in the CC. they have been found out. not as good as their supporters think they are…
2 Sep 2010, 13:29 pm
@NZINCHINA(NZINCHINA)-347: Just for the record and for factual purposes, PDV has a 4win/5lose record against the All Blacks, cant say you have his number.
2 Sep 2010, 13:30 pm
@JA-JA(JA-JA)-527: glad to be of service…
2 Sep 2010, 13:31 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-536:
HG….if Plod wins the WC i will be the happiest man on the planet.
But the question is and always will be….s he there on merit?
Is he better than Bissy?
In fact, is he better than Chilli??
Not so sure.
We know he aint no 3….
And Guthro the main man at 1 with beat pushing hard.
So plod must fight off Bissy, Chilli and a few others.
For me if he does so and wins the wc 2011 then so be it…..great for him and the boks and boks fans, me included.
But he must get there…..time will tell.
As for CC…well wp are there own worst enemies…..AC sticking to a conservative 9 and 10….not displaying balls imo…..so ja….wouldnt surprise me a bulls and sharks final.
And i will be supporting sharks all the way….at least Plum showing courage and the attacking ball in hand style of sharks is magic to watch.
2 Sep 2010, 13:34 pm
@poppa69(poppa69)-541: Thanks man, I won’t provoke you again you seem like a good guy.
One auestoin though, why did GH pick slade at FH, do you think it’s a good choice?
2 Sep 2010, 13:34 pm
any hooker in SA is better than chilliboy … even the Leopards hooker outplayed chilliboy ..maku is even worse
2 Sep 2010, 13:35 pm
@JA-JA(JA-JA)-543: *question
2 Sep 2010, 13:39 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-539:
“How many players were missing from the Boks”.
Who knows who, will be fit, available, and in favour, by next year.
Speculate all you like.
Dream the perfect Team………………………………….but reality is now.
3-0
Suck on that.
2 Sep 2010, 13:39 pm
Hi guys. I’m new on the blog and i thought I’d introduce myself.
2 Sep 2010, 13:40 pm
@JA-JA(JA-JA)-543: all good boet… most will disagree with you lol
I do think its a good choice, he is very young, so I see it as exposing him to the team culture while letting him know the coaches think he has the talent..
2 Sep 2010, 13:41 pm
@The_Zulu(The_Zulu)-547: watch out for transie, word is he has beef with the zulus
2 Sep 2010, 13:43 pm
@rossoneri(rossoneri)-532: so you’re saying the government would rather have a Bok coach who ‘supports Bees 100%’ than fire him ad payout the three stooges?
2 Sep 2010, 13:43 pm
@The_Zulu(The_Zulu)-547: Hi The Zulu. Welcome. Quite a tough thread to start out on. Maybe you should try the Currie Cup thread. Much lighter traffic. I think you will enjoy it more.
2 Sep 2010, 13:43 pm
A few thing fascinate me on this site
Sharks supporters always claiming that Province supporters are arrogant/windgat but all I ever see/read is Sharks supporters belittling everyone else………don’t know why you would swear they had some sort of pedigree…….which they don’t and I doubt ever will.
They have won squat in recent times or in the past 9the odd CC maybe…..yippeeee) so I don’t know where this self proclaimed sense of rugby superiority that they claim comes from ????
When viewed against Province they will be seen as poor cousins and perennial underachievers………chokers !!!
And they always try and side towards the Bulls to support them knowing that the Bulls and Province are arch enemies and most Bull supporters will support anything anti Province !!!!!
Sad really !!!! Shame !!
2 Sep 2010, 13:44 pm
@The_Zulu(The_Zulu)-547: Hi Zulu.
2 Sep 2010, 13:45 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-539: On the last point; notice that I said Stormers defense and not WP defense. If it was not so good, why would the Boks want the author of the defensive system, Jacques Nienaber, to assist them? Was that in itself not a confession that they are not up to standard?
How is it irrational to say that the Boks are mediocre? I did not use this word, but I think it is the perfect summary of the coaching staff’s performance. Lost three vs AB’s and one vs Wallabies. One out of five played in the 3N. I am very sorry, but that does not equate to excellence in my book. Even mediocrity is paying them a compliment.
What is Muir’s record like as a coach? What has he actually accomplished? He took the Sharks to the S12 final, but as you so rightly point out to the Stormers supporters, that is nothing to be proud of. He destroyed the structures at the Lions with his Peter Pan ideas of how rugby should be played.
Gould is even worse than Muir. It cries to the heavens that he is in charge of the Bok defense. We average four tries against us per match in the 3N. And do not tell me it has to do with individual players. The system is flawed.
PDV sees every question aimed at the glaringly obvious deficiencies in the team as a personal attack and his replies sounds like something emanating from a primary school play ground. How mature is that? He does not have the ability to communicate to the paying public what he plans to do to rectify certain things in the team. It is a joke!
The fact that senior players are overplayed is well documented and I agree with you that our team will be better when they are rested and injured players return. We will have a good chance of winning games at the WC and we may just pull off a surprise and win the whole thing. My point is that it would have been a far easier ride if we had sensible people at the helm.
2 Sep 2010, 13:45 pm
@The_Zulu(The_Zulu)-547:
Hi Zulu.
Welcome.
2 Sep 2010, 13:46 pm
@The_Zulu(The_Zulu)-547:
The internet is evil, save yourself.
2 Sep 2010, 13:46 pm
@The_Zulu(The_Zulu)-547: hi dude, where exactly do you hail from?
2 Sep 2010, 13:47 pm
@justrugby(justrugby)-552: Amen Brutha.
2 Sep 2010, 13:47 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-550: I’m saying they don’t have the time or resources to focus on it right now. They’ve dumped it on Sports Ministry, whose dump it on Hoskins, and Hoskins won’t budge yet.
2 Sep 2010, 13:47 pm
Loffie = gone crzy
Wellington – Former Springbok flyhalf Louis Koen, who played 15 Tests for South Africa between 2000 and 2003, is back in action.
Koen is included in the Boland Cavalier side for Friday’s Currie Cup First Division match against the Falcons at the Boland Stadium in Wellington.
The 35-year-old Koen has been Boland’s assistant coach for the last couple of seasons, but after four consecutive defeats, coach Loffie Eloff has decided Koen can still do the job for him.
2 Sep 2010, 13:48 pm
@The_Zulu(The_Zulu)-547: Welcome Zulu. Are we to presume from your nic that you are an avid Sharks supporter?
2 Sep 2010, 13:48 pm
@Big Hit(Big Hit)-549: hey 008 what the f*ck?!
2 Sep 2010, 13:49 pm
@grant10(grant10)-542: WP definitely their own worst enemies. Why in the world did AC make a song and dance about Hoffman at 10 and we never saw him there? Now we have lost him to the Sharks, damn it.
I am also very fast becoming a great Sharks supporter. They are disposing of big, useless centres and are playing guys who have good hands and fast feet – the NZ influence quite obvious
2 Sep 2010, 13:49 pm
@The_Zulu(The_Zulu)-547: Ah A newbie!
*rubs hands gleefully*
In order to join our very elitist club we need you to post your Id number, bank account number and Internet banking details. To verify your existence ofcourse, we dont like ghosts.
Welcome. Have fun!
2 Sep 2010, 13:50 pm
@I_support_BEES(suffer_guy)-560: No crazier than playing Terblanche at his age perhaps….
2 Sep 2010, 13:50 pm
@Panzer Chief(cane)-546: Like sucking on 4-0 last year – swings and roundabouts, and the roundabout not going to go the abs way next year… sorry for you. short some NZ equities next year, post Oct 2011, take advantage of market negativity – will make you feel better…
2 Sep 2010, 13:50 pm
@iori Yagami(iori Yagami)-551: This place is not for the faint hearted. He might aswell get on with it. Tough thread or no.
2 Sep 2010, 13:50 pm
@justrugby(justrugby)-552: WANNA-BES justrugby
2 Sep 2010, 13:51 pm
@I_support_BEES(suffer_guy)-560: Is it the 1st of April?
2 Sep 2010, 13:51 pm
@Falken(Falken)-462: Yes, this year we were outplayed by NZ and Australia( in Australia), last year we out played them both, who is to say what will happen next year?
2 Sep 2010, 13:51 pm
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-564: bang pus
2 Sep 2010, 13:51 pm
Ngiyabonga guys. I’ve been following this tread for a while now.
I was just puzzled to see this article compared to JC’s yesterday one. What a turn around.
2 Sep 2010, 13:51 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-566: Where do you get this 4-0 HG? The Boks beat the all black in three matches last year, and the All Blacks beat the Wallabies 3 times. Where do you get this 4-0?
2 Sep 2010, 13:52 pm
@Couchcoach(GI POT)-554: ja, and the ungrateful, traitorous little c.nt and his union didn’t want to offer his support. the boks were better off without him anyway…
2 Sep 2010, 13:52 pm
@rossoneri(rossoneri)-561: Of course!
2 Sep 2010, 13:53 pm
@poppa69(poppa69)-548: Maybe your right, because I don’t like Cruden (Think thats right) he seems like the Kiwi Earl Rose, not that he’s as **** as Rose but I just don’t think he’s got what it takes at test level or mabe not yet.
2 Sep 2010, 13:53 pm
Taahirah
2 Sep 2010, 13:54 pm
@justrugby(justrugby)-552: Basking in the glory of the Bulls, them Sharks
2 Sep 2010, 13:54 pm
@justrugby(justrugby)-552:
Boy do they have issued with WP. The people, the mountain, the everything
2 Sep 2010, 13:54 pm
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-564:
I would give you those details if I had any of them.
2 Sep 2010, 13:54 pm
Issues.
2 Sep 2010, 13:55 pm
@justrugby(justrugby)-552: We won the CC in 2008. Please tell me what Province have won recently???????
Oh ya, back in the days of Apartheid you guys were the ****. Well that was purely a funding issue. The Nats looked after NP strongholds.
2 Sep 2010, 13:55 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-568:
That’s them !!!
Desperate wannabees !!!
2 Sep 2010, 13:55 pm
@The_Zulu(The_Zulu)-575: Nooooooooo Not another one!
2 Sep 2010, 13:56 pm
@rossoneri(rossoneri)-573: he counts the baabaas as the 4th..
he is funny
2 Sep 2010, 13:56 pm
@Mighty Horua(Mighty Horua)-578: What was that nic you gave them. Bullsharks?
2 Sep 2010, 13:56 pm
@saru1983(saru1983)-571: Dude. Anwar Majiet has to much backbone to post the **** you do during the month of Ramadaan. Im gonna need more proof from you.
2 Sep 2010, 13:57 pm
@poppa69(poppa69)-585: Seriously! Oh come on! HG is mad.
2 Sep 2010, 13:57 pm
@grant10(grant10)-542: Of course barney is there on merit: ask the people that actually count – his team, the bok selectors, the coaches, saru and knowlegable rugby supporters including ex-players. he is undisputed, successful leader respected the rugbyworld over other than by some idiotic bok “supporters” (a high proportion of which are WePee) and CT sports writers…
2 Sep 2010, 13:57 pm
@The_Zulu(The_Zulu)-580:
2 Sep 2010, 13:58 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-589: And he is the promoter of KAMP STAALDRAAD.
2 Sep 2010, 13:58 pm
@The_Zulu(The_Zulu)-580:
Sawbona – don’t trust anyone here mate. They setting you up!
2 Sep 2010, 13:59 pm
@The_Zulu(The_Zulu)-547:
Hey Zulu,
as you are new here.
These are the GOOD Guys:
Popps,
Hurricane,
Captain Fantail,
Rugby Rulz,
Black Panther, (sometimes referred to as Black Panties).
Waka Nathan,
NZ Maori,
chch,
NZinChina,
Wallabie,
Stodders.
These are the Bad Guys:
All Bulls supporters. No exceptions. Full Stop.
(And Big Hit).
2 Sep 2010, 13:59 pm
@The_Zulu(The_Zulu)-572: Consistancy is a rare commodity on this site.
2 Sep 2010, 14:00 pm
@JA-JA(JA-JA)-576: hes very small for a 1st 5/8 as well.. I think the cartel are actually searching for a back up to take to the world cup… Slade has apparently been in good form in the ITM cup.. Donald was definitely not the answer, so after Carter there really is no one else… a weakness for us at the moment… hopefully one of these two really step up.. Crudens first start I believe, so will want to play well..
2 Sep 2010, 14:00 pm
@Panzer Chief(cane)-593:
Oh Ok!
2 Sep 2010, 14:00 pm
@The_Zulu(The_Zulu)-572: JC is puzzling at the best of times.
Not long ago he announced to the www that F Louw has been sent back to the stormers, which meant he misses out on springbok selection for what was the upcoming test. He went on a rant about how we need a fetcher this, a fetcher that, Louw this, Louw that, only for said player to be selected on the wood that same weekend for the boks.
And he has sauces (sic) close to the team.
And now this.
But you get used to it.
Welcome
2 Sep 2010, 14:00 pm
@The_Zulu(The_Zulu)-580:
Especially not Bill Reyts…..
2 Sep 2010, 14:00 pm
@Ratel Brussow(Morne Steyn is under-rated)-582:
As I said desperate wannabees !!!
2 Sep 2010, 14:01 pm
@The_Zulu(The_Zulu)-575: Welcome Zulu and dont come with that Shark tendencies :capeflatsmiley:
2 Sep 2010, 14:01 pm
@The_Zulu(The_Zulu)-580:
Are you a boy or a girl?
You will have to dot your I’s and cross your T’s here buddy.
2 Sep 2010, 14:01 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-594:
Yeah, consistency too.
2 Sep 2010, 14:01 pm
@rossoneri(rossoneri)-579: The loss is theirs. Most of them wouldn’t qualify for residency anyway.
2 Sep 2010, 14:02 pm
@rossoneri(rossoneri)-588: thats what I meant by funny, as in cuckoo crazy..
2 Sep 2010, 14:02 pm
@Panzer Chief(cane)-593: hahahahahahahahaha. And me!
2 Sep 2010, 14:02 pm
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-564:
lol.
2 Sep 2010, 14:02 pm
@poppa69(poppa69)-604:
2 Sep 2010, 14:02 pm
@Agile T*t-Tyrant(Anairetes agilis)-598:
Hey! Watchit!
2 Sep 2010, 14:02 pm
@Bill Reyts(Gumboots)-601:
Now now Bill, we dont discriminate
2 Sep 2010, 14:04 pm
@Agile T*t-Tyrant(Anairetes agilis)-609:
We need a few more Dawn’s and Rssoneri’s here! Oh do we really?
2 Sep 2010, 14:04 pm
The reason we prefer Bulls to Province is very simple. By the way both are huge rivals and we hate losing to either. But we respect the Bulls. They are the face of Modern SA rugby (most successful since ’94) and their supporters are generally well informed. Province on the other hand are arrogant, misinformed (Argus) know-it-alls who have consistently screwed up bok rugby since we were re-admitted. You guys thrive on past glories from an era of gross misrepresentation in sport. You’ve won nothing in years.
2 Sep 2010, 14:04 pm
@Bill Reyts(Gumboots)-592: kia ora Bill..
@Panzer Chief(cane)-593: post of the day
2 Sep 2010, 14:05 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-589: g10, a bit of sanity remains with you supporting the sharks. Plum is starting to come into his own with a style now that is more than reminiscent of the sharks of the 90′s of which plum himself was a part of.
Watch Bosman start playing the honiball type role and a switch to JLP for a LaCroix type role. Lambie will slot in at 15/13/12 in that order of priority and it would be schweet to see JdJ in the Black and White…
The good times are going to roll – the admin got a good kick up the backside and professionalism is back at the tank…
2 Sep 2010, 14:05 pm
@poppa69(poppa69)-612:
Kia ora Poppa! U well mate!
2 Sep 2010, 14:05 pm
@Bill Reyts(Gumboots)-610:
The place wouldn’t be the same without us. Concede that at least.
Hey. Be nice.
2 Sep 2010, 14:06 pm
@Bill Reyts(Gumboots)-601: Lol
2 Sep 2010, 14:06 pm
@rossoneri(rossoneri)-615:
U know we love you lots and lots oh jelly totts.
2 Sep 2010, 14:07 pm
@Bill Reyts(Gumboots)-614: yeah mate, yourself? looking forward to the game this weekend, not sure who to tip on superbru though
2 Sep 2010, 14:07 pm
Some flee as Earl approaches US
Earl Rose going to play for the USA
2 Sep 2010, 14:08 pm
@poppa69(poppa69)-595: I have to say Cruden has a good background story (all black wearing yellow story on rugbyheaven). got a bit of ballas that boy.
2 Sep 2010, 14:09 pm
@rossoneri(rossoneri)-605:
Of course Lilly.
2 Sep 2010, 14:09 pm
@rossoneri(rossoneri)-591: so transie’s momma puts her tuppence
2 Sep 2010, 14:09 pm
@Panzer Chief(cane)-593: I’m sure that’s way more imports from the islands than we’re legally allowed. We’re going to have to let at least half of you go.
2 Sep 2010, 14:09 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-613:
no doubts the sharks have adapted a new strategy and its paying dividends…..
Just get rid of the plod cancer and bobs your aunt.
2 Sep 2010, 14:10 pm
@Ratel Brussow(Morne Steyn is under-rated)-582: As I said last year and will say it again, Sharks fans are like Portsmouth fans saying they have recently won the FA Cup and comparing themselves to Liverpool lack of success, “recently” being the operative word. Its just funny!!!, because the only fact is that, it will take another life time before Sharks’s successes are even mentioned on the same breath as WP’s .
2 Sep 2010, 14:11 pm
@Bill Reyts(Gumboots)-617:
thanks.
2 Sep 2010, 14:11 pm
@The_Zulu(The_Zulu)-575:
Your most important survival skill is the proper use of smileys. Wars have often started this way.
When you graduate from smiley school, we will further your knowledge in the art of bold type and italics.
If you would like to stand out, learn the subtle art of colour type.
When you are done with the compulsory basic training, we move on to diplomacy.
WARNING: Never under ANY circumstances do you discuss any of the follwing:
*Politics
*Religion
*The blue mullet
Once you have completed initiation (your fist time being called a keo-racist), you may earn the right to tell us your background, affiliations, province of choice and how poorly you think of keo and his sports writers.
One day, if you persist, you might be elevated to “Pope-status”, you will have a golden box around each of your posts, and be known as “Keo”.
Happy blogging
2 Sep 2010, 14:12 pm
@Ratel Brussow(Morne Steyn is under-rated)-611: Now there all you are doing is showing your own ignorance. Shame.
2 Sep 2010, 14:12 pm
damnit
2 Sep 2010, 14:13 pm
@Ratel Brussow(Morne Steyn is under-rated)-582: Ja, you tell that twerp, Ratel. Hows this ou, shouting from a high roof top when his teams success in winning anything other than the plascon paint preseason trophy is like memories of puke watson as a good rugby player – a distant fa.rt in the wind…
2 Sep 2010, 14:13 pm
All for giving Div a chance but he is becoming his own worst enemy. If he could just coach and not shoot his mouth off would that stopping the Div bashing?? Probably not…the media would find some other thing to attack him on. But his giving them plenty of ammo
2 Sep 2010, 14:14 pm
@XhosaKid(XhosaKid)-625: They have waited 100 years to drink Shiraz from the CurrieCup
2 Sep 2010, 14:14 pm
@Agile T*t-Tyrant(Anairetes agilis)-629:
Looks like the student has become the pupil.
2 Sep 2010, 14:14 pm
@I_support_BEES(suffer_guy)-619: NOW THAT WAS FUNNY!
2 Sep 2010, 14:15 pm
@poppa69(poppa69)-618:
I haven’t put my pics in yet either! What you think?
2 Sep 2010, 14:15 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-620: lol not a nice region to have the big C im sure
2 Sep 2010, 14:16 pm
@I_support_BEES(suffer_guy)-619: Grid Iron
2 Sep 2010, 14:16 pm
@katman(katman)-623:
2 Sep 2010, 14:16 pm
@rossoneri(rossoneri)-626:
You are so welcome!
2 Sep 2010, 14:16 pm
@Panzer Chief(cane)-593: Hey not all Bulls supporters are bad, just a few rotten fruit.
2 Sep 2010, 14:17 pm
@grant10(grant10)-624: Barney is legend at sharks, amongst past players and present… they know their rugby, as well as many sharks supporters…
2 Sep 2010, 14:17 pm
@katman(katman)-623: eish. thats hit the nail on the head.
2 Sep 2010, 14:19 pm
@poppa69(poppa69)-636: honestly…
2 Sep 2010, 14:19 pm
@Ratel Brussow(Morne Steyn is under-rated)-611: I see, you are still pissed off at what Province did to your Sharkies in 2000 CC Final and again in 2001 CC Final, that **** must hurt!!!! LOL!!!
2 Sep 2010, 14:19 pm
@Panzer Chief(cane)-621: hehehehehe
2 Sep 2010, 14:19 pm
@rossoneri(rossoneri)-626: “Unlike most sharks, bullsharks tolerate fresh water and can travel far up rivers. Some have been found in shallow water of the Juskei”
From Wikipedia
2 Sep 2010, 14:19 pm
@Agile T*t-Tyrant(Anairetes agilis)-627: lol straight out of the keo user manual
2 Sep 2010, 14:20 pm
@XhosaKid(XhosaKid)-625: Ironic that your nic is Xhosakid and you wax lyrical about a union whose biggest achievements came in an era when Xhosa’s weren’t even allowed to play the game.
Since the rebirth of our beautiful nation Province has been nowhere. Kind of like the National Party.
2 Sep 2010, 14:20 pm
Bullsharks are large and stout. Females are larger than males.
2 Sep 2010, 14:20 pm
@Bill Reyts(Gumboots)-635: I think you guys will beat them again.. I do wonder if deans will introduce fresh legs this time, so dont think it will be by more then 10… both teams would have worked on defense all week long..
2 Sep 2010, 14:21 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-641: seems sharksworld bloggers content that he leaves….
and 78 % of keo bloggers want him to retire Sat at around 7 pm.
But hey, wtf…..i dont care…..i have resigned myself to 2015.
With that….gotta run
outta here
2 Sep 2010, 14:21 pm
@Agile T*t-Tyrant(Anairetes agilis)-627: LOL
2 Sep 2010, 14:21 pm
@Agile T*t-Tyrant(Anairetes agilis)-627:
Jeez that is so kewlllllllllllllll.
You have just frightened the oke away!
2 Sep 2010, 14:21 pm
@Agile T*t-Tyrant(Anairetes agilis)-627: Oh c’mon. The blue mullet can be discussed. Kobus Kitty opened that door and he is a Bulls Supporter.
He called Dippenaar “Mullet Rat” after all.
2 Sep 2010, 14:21 pm
@Bill Reyts(Gumboots)-610: there is always a place for smelly liberal peace corp types with their half braided dreads and sandals…
2 Sep 2010, 14:22 pm
@poppa69(poppa69)-638: You guys wash ashore here in your drips and drabs, and no one has a clear count of exactly how many there are of you. But when Cane lists the lot of you like that, it’s a bit of a shock. It’s like a shanty town has sprung up here on keo.
2 Sep 2010, 14:22 pm
@grant10(grant10)-651: sharksworld bloggers… hehehehe
2 Sep 2010, 14:23 pm
@Mustard(Mustard)-647:
Not really, in the “Keo’s guide to surviving Keo”, they actually put in the backslash after i for italics.
2 Sep 2010, 14:23 pm
@Mighty Horua(Mighty Horua)-600:
Thanks. Beware though, I don’t come with shark tendencies. They come with me. :durbsgoldtoothsmiley:
2 Sep 2010, 14:24 pm
@JA-JA(JA-JA)-640:
I was only Joking about the Bulls Supporters…………
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.
.
.
I love those Okes like they were my brothers.
2 Sep 2010, 14:24 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-643: honestly?? Cruden had cancer, its true..
2 Sep 2010, 14:24 pm
@grant10(grant10)-651: Resigned yourself to 2015?
2 Sep 2010, 14:24 pm
@The_Zulu(The_Zulu)-659:
Now you have to take a lesson or two here mate.
:durbsgoldtoothsmiley: don’t work here.
Remember I’m watching you!!!!
2 Sep 2010, 14:25 pm
@Panzer Chief(cane)-660:
Yeah..we love bulls supporters. Just watch on sat hum much we love them
2 Sep 2010, 14:25 pm
@XhosaKid(XhosaKid)-644: Haha, no 9 years is plenty of time to get over it. Also plenty of time for cobwebs to set in. Get out the duster and clean up your trophy room, gotta make that Plascon cup sparkle! 2001, haha 9 years!
2 Sep 2010, 14:25 pm
@Panzer Chief(cane)-660:
Your brother beat you senselessly too?
2 Sep 2010, 14:26 pm
666 BTW, rawr.
2 Sep 2010, 14:26 pm
@poppa69(poppa69)-661: Is he clean now?
2 Sep 2010, 14:26 pm
@The_Zulu(The_Zulu)-664:
The only support for them here is their 38D bra size mate!
2 Sep 2010, 14:27 pm
@XhosaKid(XhosaKid)-625: fark, you getting confused now – the big shouting, carping and panic comes from somewhere, and it aint sharks fans.
you chavball analogy does you no favours as a bok rugby “fan”…
highlights more than a bit of ignorance… but thats typical, so it is understanable…
2 Sep 2010, 14:27 pm
@Agile T*t-Tyrant(Anairetes agilis)-667:
That’s another lesson ZULU, if you get first post of the thread, you say something ….dragons.
And if you get post 666 (which you wont whilst Im around), you are the beast of the day.
2 Sep 2010, 14:28 pm
@katman(katman)-656:
Actually Katmandu…..
.
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I was surprised how few we were.
2 Sep 2010, 14:28 pm
@Panzer Chief(cane)-660:
Ja ja
2 Sep 2010, 14:28 pm
@katman(katman)-656:
hey, by blogging here we increase the IQs of BOTH countries
2 Sep 2010, 14:28 pm
@Agile T*t-Tyrant(Anairetes agilis)-666: Lol what an experience.
2 Sep 2010, 14:29 pm
@poppa69(poppa69)-674:
Pity it has no effect on the EQ’s!
2 Sep 2010, 14:29 pm
@iori Yagami(iori Yagami)-668: its in remission as far as I know…
2 Sep 2010, 14:30 pm
@grant10(grant10)-651: 78% is probaly the percentage of province supporters on this site. Resign yourself to 2015, wow, what a supporter.
C
O
C
K
2 Sep 2010, 14:30 pm
@Agile T*t-Tyrant(Anairetes agilis)-671:
And if you post 667,
you live across the Street from the Beast.
2 Sep 2010, 14:31 pm
@poppa69(poppa69)-661: I know that, he overcame it and is now going to run out for the abs. must have a bit of ballas (notwithstanding where the big C was) it may improve my “respect” for the abs by a percentage point or 2, actually
2 Sep 2010, 14:32 pm
@Panzer Chief(cane)-679:
That’s how epic I am.
2 Sep 2010, 14:33 pm
@Ratel Brussow(Morne Steyn is under-rated)-648: I’m not sure where you’re heading with the “Xhosa nic” jibe, anyway, the last time I checked, WP has won 2 CC’s in the last 9 years, coincindentally beating the Sharks in both finals, which is why your hatred is understandable , the Sharks have only won one during the same era.
So, whats your point again?
2 Sep 2010, 14:34 pm
Guys, I dont know if you all realized this, but our incessant complaining about the supposed crap Keo and co. write means they only put up a single thread today.
Can this be?
2 Sep 2010, 14:34 pm
@Agile T*t-Tyrant(Anairetes agilis)-666:
Being the Youngest,
All sense was beaten out of me.
2 Sep 2010, 14:35 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-680: so theyd be up to about .05 now? lol
2 Sep 2010, 14:35 pm
Oh, there be a new thread
2 Sep 2010, 14:36 pm
@Agile T*t-Tyrant(Anairetes agilis)-683:
No I saw them marching in support of the strikers. You should have read their banners!
2 Sep 2010, 14:36 pm
@Panzer Chief(cane)-684:
Don’t worry, we understand.
2 Sep 2010, 14:39 pm
@XhosaKid(XhosaKid)-682: Since ’94 we’ve won 3 and so have you. We won our last one in 2008, you in 2001. The 90′s were ours, the 2000′s the Bulls. You’ve got to go back into the dark recesses of apartheid to find a decade WP last dominated. If you look at the log today, you’ll see the sharks at the top. Basically that’s my point. Also don’t tune me about recently when JustChess brought it up.
2 Sep 2010, 14:39 pm
@Bill Reyts(Gumboots)-687:
Lemme guess:
“MAKE MARIJUANA LEGAL! Our posts lack creativity!”
2 Sep 2010, 14:40 pm
@Ratel Brussow(Morne Steyn is under-rated)-665: Uhm Ratel, In this decade WP won the CC TWICE and you won it ONCE. So I frankly have no idea where your sense of superiority comes from. The 2000′s belong to the Bulls and the Freestate. Certainly not to the Sharks.
In the 90′s you won it 4 times, congratulations. But don’t come and criticise the WP trophy cabinet on the back of a total of FIVE Currie Cup Titles. In total for all your history.
But then maybe I do understand where all this WP jealousy comes from after all.
2 Sep 2010, 14:40 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-670:
1. where is the shouting coming from?,
2. why is a perfect analogy not doing me any favours?
3. more importantly, how does it highlight my ignorance?
2 Sep 2010, 14:40 pm
@Agile T*t-Tyrant(Anairetes agilis)-686: Two new threads actually.
2 Sep 2010, 14:41 pm
@XhosaKid(XhosaKid)-682: Exactly, see my post above. Johnny come lately wannabee’s…..
2 Sep 2010, 14:44 pm
@poppa69(poppa69)-685: I love the abs, truly I do…
i love those little sheepshagging, devious, smallminded, inbred rugbyloving islanders like a hole in the head…
I especially love their enduring success at WCs to be continued next year
2 Sep 2010, 14:45 pm
@Ratel Brussow(Morne Steyn is under-rated)-689: So in essence, what you are saying is that, during Sharks vintage years which coincided with Province’s worst years, we are still equal!!!!!, and you have a nerve to gloat about that????.
2 Sep 2010, 14:46 pm
@XhosaKid(XhosaKid)-692: 1. Deluded allfart noshit WePee supporters. always
2. Chavball
3. Chavball
get the picture…?
Probably not. If not start at 1. again.
2 Sep 2010, 14:49 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-691: 2008 vs 2001. 2 seasons ago compared to close on a decade. By the way we’re in a NEW decade this year. In 2008 we had waited a long time to win and as such were mocked. Now suck it up. You’ve been losers for the last 8 seasons, you haven’t even made a final.
2 Sep 2010, 14:49 pm
The Tunnel:-
Sitting together on a train travelling through the Swiss Alps, were
The Zulu,
a Bulls supporter,
a little old Greek lady,
and a young blonde Swiss girl with large breasts.
The train goes into a dark tunnel and a few seconds later there is the sound of a loud slap.
When the train emerges from the tunnel, the Bully Boy has a bright red hand print on his cheek.
No one speaks.
The OLD LADY thinks:
The Bully Guy must have groped the blonde in the dark, and she slapped his cheek.
The blonde Swiss girl thinks:
That Guy in the Blue Bulls jersey,
must have tried to grope me in the dark, but missed and fondled the old lady and she slapped his cheek.
The Bulls Dude thinks:
The Zulu from Keo guy, must have groped the blonde in the dark. She tried to slap him but missed and got me instead.
The Zulu thinks:
I can’t wait for another tunnel, just so I can smack that F***ing Bully Boy again.
2 Sep 2010, 14:49 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-691: Get that right – the team of the 90′s. probably going to be the team of the 10′s starting this year I’d imagine…
2 Sep 2010, 14:49 pm
@Agile T*t-Tyrant(Anairetes agilis)-690:
You should give blog stationery classes. Three courses.
1. smileys
2. Bold
3. colour
2 Sep 2010, 14:51 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-694:
Exactly, many shark bloggers on this blog suffer from inferiority complexes (some worse then others). If you look at their performance in SA rugby history it is perhaps understandable. That is why I usually ignore them, no need to rub it in even further, deep inside they know….
2 Sep 2010, 14:52 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-695:
Love…………..ain’t it Grand.
2 Sep 2010, 14:53 pm
Headline:
WePee supporters to start up new support group for those with severe addictive but masochistic tendencies:
L.A. – Losers Anonymous
2 Sep 2010, 14:53 pm
@XhosaKid(XhosaKid)-692: udlala ngexesha lakho chap, oluhlobo lungu heavens game luyahlanya kwaye lishaywa ngumfazi walo! Ndiyakuxebisa ingazimosheli ixesha ngokube uxambulisana nesisiyatha!
2 Sep 2010, 14:54 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-705: Ooooooooooh HG gonna go mad now.
2 Sep 2010, 14:55 pm
@rossoneri(rossoneri)-701:
Actually, it’s:
1 Smileys
2 Bold
3 How to de-register
2 Sep 2010, 14:55 pm
@XhosaKid(XhosaKid)-696: You’ve won squat for 8 years. And haven’t dominated an era since apartheid.
Also JR brought all this up. I just explained why we hate Province more than the Bulls. Its got more to do with the supporters than anything else. A strong WP = a weak bok side (since apartheid).
2 Sep 2010, 14:56 pm
Come now don’t waste your time with xhosakid. Remember he is the one who said that the bulls didn’t have any genuine black support but rather just uncle toms who wore counterfeit shirts to suck up to their white bosses.
Honestly you couldn’t make that **** up…
2 Sep 2010, 14:57 pm
@Panzer Chief(cane)-703: hehhehehe
2 Sep 2010, 14:59 pm
Pretoria – Ancestors will be called on to haunt the alleged murderer of Johannes Mtshumane Mogale, executive director of policing Ndumiso Jaca said at the memorial service in Pretoria on Thursday.
Addressing a packed gathering of family members and fellow metro police officers, Jaca said Blue Bulls rugby player – Bees Roux – arrested for Mogale’s murder – “would not rest”.
“Let’s call on the fallen members of the department to go and man the road blocks and ensure Bees doesn’t rest.”
Roux was arrested last Friday after he had allegedly been pulled over by Mogale for drunken driving.
Shortly after, Mogale’s beaten body was found by two other patrol officers.
“Let’s call on our ancestors, lets ensure we hound Bees until he tells the truth,” he said to angry shouts of agreement.
‘Bees is a monster’
“Bees is a monster, he is a beast murdering my member with his own hands. He’s huge, he’s a monster,” said Jaca.
Speaking later, municipal mayoral commissioner Dikeledi Lehobye said it was painful to imagine that a person could be “murdered with bare hands, on the hard surface of the tarmac”.
She agreed that the murder was diabolical and barbaric.
“I have to admit that I am deeply touched by this incident and very, very angry. I am angry at behaviour worse than that of wild animals.”
However, Lehobye appealed to officers to let the law run its course.
“Out of respect for the family, wife and children let us desist from making careless and hurtful speculation.”
Throughout the memorial service Mogale’s wife, Margarette, softly cried into a white and reddish handkerchief with a relative sitting next to her, never taking her arm off the grieving widow’s shoulder.
2 Sep 2010, 15:01 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-630:
So what have the Sharks won ??? besides the odd CC ??
Amazing that you always like referring to the barren spell in our history, didn’t it take you like a 100 years to win your 1st Cc and you want to comapare pedigree……..you insane !!!! delusional a better word.
Reality check ……….Sharks are pretenders and wannabees !!!! And chokers !!!
And their supporters are thge most fickle bunch i have ever encountered , freekin fair weather bunch you lot !!!!
2 Sep 2010, 15:01 pm
@Ratel Brussow(Morne Steyn is under-rated)-698: OK so if 2010 is the beginning of a new decade then 2000 is the beginning of the last decade, a decade where we won it TWICE and YOU won it ONCE. Really.
And the reason I didn’t include this year is that we haven’t a winner so far. So in the past 10 (completed) CC’s We’ve won it TWICE and you’ve won it ONCE. I really don’t know how many ways to put it, it always comes out the same.
And you leaning on a solitary win 2 years ago as some example of Rugby supremacy really isn’t much of an argument is it now?
Maybe the reason that Sharks supporters think WP supporters are so arrogant is because SHARKS supporters are so STUPID.
I dunno. I feel this theory has the potential to really catch on here amoungst the knowlegable people of KEO….
2 Sep 2010, 15:03 pm
@Mighty Horua(Mighty Horua)-711: wth?
2 Sep 2010, 15:03 pm
75-14
2 Sep 2010, 15:05 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-714: Its getting serious now
2 Sep 2010, 15:05 pm
@justrugby(justrugby)-712: Exactly. I have no idea where this sense of inflated superiority comes from. They have Strauli as their Director of Rugby after all…..
2 Sep 2010, 15:05 pm
@Mighty Horua(Mighty Horua)-711:
“Bees is a monster, he is a beast murdering my member with his own hands. He’s huge, he’s a monster,” said Jaca.
Member murdering monster.
2 Sep 2010, 15:06 pm
@Brigadier Van Zyl(Brigadier Van Zyl)-715: Shark supporter?
2 Sep 2010, 15:06 pm
@Ratel Brussow(Morne Steyn is under-rated)-708:
Cr ap man, find me a Province supporter as arrogant as HG , Squirrelhunter , yourself , SL and I will eat my hat !!!!
2 Sep 2010, 15:06 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-705: Racist… niyadlala nicely, na? mhlawumbe ngiyaphemba umlilo, umkhapheyana
2 Sep 2010, 15:08 pm
@Agile T*t-Tyrant(Anairetes agilis)-718: Kry jy lekker?
2 Sep 2010, 15:09 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-717:
The mind boggles !!
2 Sep 2010, 15:09 pm
@justrugby(justrugby)-720:
JC
2 Sep 2010, 15:10 pm
@Mighty Horua(Mighty Horua)-719:
…any enemy of my enemy is my friend.
43-3
2 Sep 2010, 15:10 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-713: Try and understand this. We haven’t won anything for 1 season. You haven’t won anything for 8.
Best SA captains post isolation – Both Sharks: Gary and John (Pienaar as well, but a Lion)
Worst captains – Both WP: Corne and Bob
Solomens the Cape snake, backstabber delux.
Both WC winning flyhalves both born and bred in KZN. The fact is whenever WP do well, you guys start crowing and players who are average get picked for the boks, cause they play for WP.
2 Sep 2010, 15:10 pm
Mighty Horua … maybe his anchestors “took him away” because they weren’t happy with his corrupt dealings – maybe they got the bees to moer him dik
2 Sep 2010, 15:11 pm
@Mighty Horua(Mighty Horua)-722:
Ja, what do you think
means?
What to sit in on my course in simleology?
Flippin funny, these ancestor-worshipping, black-mailing, car-jacking, donut-eating Metrocops.
2 Sep 2010, 15:11 pm
@gunther(gunther)-709: I see,the apt description really hit home
!!!
2 Sep 2010, 15:13 pm
@Agile T*t-Tyrant(Anairetes agilis)-724:
Just kidding BTW. I love you JC.
2 Sep 2010, 15:13 pm
@Ratel Brussow(Morne Steyn is under-rated)-726:
here,here…..WP players have to do way less to get selected.
2 Sep 2010, 15:14 pm
@justrugby(justrugby)-720: include KznMadShark to that list! Don’t forget John Galt..
The only humble Sharks supporters are Puma & Mshiniwami!!!! All the other plonkers think their sh*t don’t stink…you should’ve seen them at the beginning of the year when their team lost 5 games in a row, they were lank funny!
some of them even went on a self-imposed hiatus and abandoned the blog.
Bunch of delusional, own hype-believing, non-achievers!
2 Sep 2010, 15:14 pm
@Ratel Brussow(Morne Steyn is under-rated)-708: @Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-710: And let me tell you guys something in all honesty. For the last while on KEO the only aggrogant Province hating nonsense has been coming from Sharks Supporters. And quite frankly it does not one any honour. Casual jibes aside, it’s become way too obvious and constant to be excused as playful banter. It’s nonsense. The problem with it is that everyone else sees it for what it is, total cr ap. And by extension they eventually begin to see everything else that you post in the same way.
Use it, don’t use it. But I hope you do……
2 Sep 2010, 15:16 pm
@Brigadier Van Zyl(Brigadier Van Zyl)-731:
and couldn’t spot talent to save their lives.
Imagine Frans hougaard sitting 2 down the pecking order behind Duvenhage?
2 Sep 2010, 15:16 pm
@Ratel Brussow(Morne Steyn is under-rated)-726:
Desperate wannabee ??
Geez now you clutching at straws !!!! Are you okes really that desperate for recognition !!!
2 Sep 2010, 15:17 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-733:
Post of the day !!!!!!!
2 Sep 2010, 15:17 pm
truth be told…Bulls rule, the Cheetahs are 2nd and everyone else sucks a little except for WP who suck a lot!
2 Sep 2010, 15:18 pm
@justrugby(justrugby)-712: WePee supporters gonna need more than a paint trophy to realise that they will never reach their previous heights of the 80′s ever again – the team of the 90′s now occupies the space as the main challengers to the Bulls. they gonna need a whole figurative paint job to realise the main competition is Bulls vs Sharks now…
quote this year: bulls player – S14 “Bulls vs Sharks, the hardest game in Sa Rugby”. and thats when the Sharks were underperforming….
anyway stick with your “great” coach ac and “brilliant” defensive system – it was mighty effective against the sharks and cheetahs recently
2 Sep 2010, 15:18 pm
@Agile T*t-Tyrant(Anairetes agilis)-728: I’ll will attend your course after BEES have been sentence for 20 years in CMAX
2 Sep 2010, 15:19 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-732:
And we told them what was wrong in those first 5 games, they denied it , as soon as the changes were made that we said should be done, they won just about everything !!!!!
Out for a while !!!!
2 Sep 2010, 15:19 pm
@I_support_BEES(suffer_guy)-727: They will moer BEES in Cmax for 20 years
2 Sep 2010, 15:21 pm
@Agile T*t-Tyrant(Anairetes agilis)-718:
Trust you to point out that play on words.
2 Sep 2010, 15:21 pm
@Brigadier Van Zyl(Brigadier Van Zyl)-737: LOL!!!!, I love Pretoria humour.
2 Sep 2010, 15:21 pm
@Ratel Brussow(Morne Steyn is under-rated)-726: You just can’t see it can you? You’ve won 1 in 8. Or 1 in 10. Or 1 in 2. Congratulations.
We didn’t start this argument, you guys have been bashing everything WP for some time now, and because when presented with the big picture you now want to selectively attack our captains and claim “ownership” of some of our players. Pathetic.
You remind me of a quote by Andrew Lang:
“He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts… For support rather than illumination.”
That’s you in this case. I’m not saying you aren’t capable of better, in fact I know you are.
2 Sep 2010, 15:22 pm
I see Bees’ ********** said that Bees is a big racist : He saw Bees making biltong from only the white parts of the zebra he shot 2 weekends ago.
2 Sep 2010, 15:22 pm
@I_support_BEES(suffer_guy)-727: And remember he will be the stripper in jail. BEES HOL
2 Sep 2010, 15:23 pm
@Mighty Horua(Mighty Horua)-739:
sure thing
2 Sep 2010, 15:23 pm
***** = garden worker
2 Sep 2010, 15:23 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-733: “The problem with it is that everyone else sees it for what it is” – get off your high horse and try not be duplicitous like mini-me. who is “everyone else”? wePee supporters who seem to make up the majority of contributors on this site? you got a bit of a short memory of the glee from said supporters when the Sharks were underperforming in the S14.
2 Sep 2010, 15:24 pm
@XhosaKid(XhosaKid)-743:
YIP,good to see the CC is in full swing and all the usual Superrugby untermenchen start thinking that they are supermen again
2 Sep 2010, 15:24 pm
@Mighty Horua(Mighty Horua)-741:
There is an IQ prerequisite though….
Guess you’ll have to start stocking up on Ginko, spirulina and cod liver oil.
2 Sep 2010, 15:25 pm
@Brigadier Van Zyl(Brigadier Van Zyl)-734:
Was he not behind FDUP and Heini Adams ??
2 Sep 2010, 15:26 pm
@Mighty Horua(Mighty Horua)-741: Should Bees go to prison he will be a high profile prisoner and as such have an easy prison life. Think Eugene de Kock, ET, Waterkloof 4, etc. I know, a family memebr is the head of Pretoria Central.
2 Sep 2010, 15:26 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-733: You also forget the arrogant Bulls-hating nonsense coming from paragons of virtue – WePee supporters…. hypocrites unite
2 Sep 2010, 15:26 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-749: Honestly, you Sharks fans are like freaken school girls, you take your issues with Grant10 and you are kaking on every Province fan, why cant you collective lot deal with 1 man.
Give them hell Grant10!!!!
2 Sep 2010, 15:28 pm
@justrugby(justrugby)-752:
don’t remember him sitting on the bench for the bulls to often.
Nooo, way to talented for that, put him on the wing and make that boy a Bok.
not like province.
Put him on the reserve list and make him want to leave.
2 Sep 2010, 15:28 pm
@Agile T*t-Tyrant(Anairetes agilis)-751: Snoek a day will do then
2 Sep 2010, 15:29 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-749: So you feel that you now have licence to do the very same thing?
It reminds me of a scene from A Fish called Wanda:
John Cleese (after a expletive laden tirade by Otto, played by Kevin Cline): “You’re a true vulgarian, aren’t you??”
Otto: “You’re the vulgarian you F UCK!!!!”
See where I’m going with this???
2 Sep 2010, 15:29 pm
@XhosaKid(XhosaKid)-755:
they do have some frikken hot dancing girls though.
that must count for something.
the birds at newlands look like little porkers, those sailor outfits do zilch for the figure.
2 Sep 2010, 15:30 pm
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-742:
Hierdie hele ding hierop die web werf raak nou belaglik.
Ek het nie `n saak met hoe sensitief Magtige Hoerwa wil wees nie, hoe laai jy sulke dinge op en verwag geen reaksie? Of verwag `n reaksie op Keo? Deur blog-verbruikers sonder naam en van?
2 Sep 2010, 15:31 pm
@Brigadier Van Zyl(Brigadier Van Zyl)-756:
Cream will always come to the top !!!! glad it did for FH !!!
2 Sep 2010, 15:31 pm
@Robzim(Robzim)-702: You mistake inferiority for the love of highlighting hypocrisy… it will not rest.
2 Sep 2010, 15:31 pm
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-753: Bring the Slayer of Tswane to Pollsmoor cause I know somebody who is the Head. Just ask J Arthur Brown
2 Sep 2010, 15:31 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-733:
Hear-hear.
But do not hold your breath. They cannot help themselves, the inferiority complex is just too deeply-rooted
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-738:
It is meaningless to pick out only certain games to justify a point you are trying to make. I can just as well say that WP’s system worked quite well against the Bulls or that the Shark’s system failed dismally during the first game against Griquas.Or I can point out that WP beat Griquas with 50 points in Kimnberley while the Sharks lost at the same venue.
Wait till you win the CC before you start boasting or ridiculing other teams – you are doing exactly what you are accusing Province supporters of doing.
2 Sep 2010, 15:31 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-754: Fact is, I DEFY you to give me a quote from more than one blogger from WP attacking the Sharks unprovoked and displaying the abovementioned arrogance in the last 2 months….
You’ve obviously got some example in your head of some incident that you’ve taken offence to by some person here and turned it into generalised hatred of all things WP…. NOT good my man….NOt good at all……
2 Sep 2010, 15:32 pm
@Agile T*t-Tyrant(Anairetes agilis)-760: Jy laai al heeldag sulke gerugte op hierdie blog…
2 Sep 2010, 15:33 pm
@Agile T*t-Tyrant(Anairetes agilis)-760: Probleem is, dit gaan net egter raak in die maande om te kom. *Sug*. Ag nou ja…
2 Sep 2010, 15:33 pm
@Mighty Horua(Mighty Horua)-766:
2 Sep 2010, 15:34 pm
I see no-one is interested in Grant’s article anymore!
2 Sep 2010, 15:35 pm
@Mighty Horua(Mighty Horua)-766:
The cops and familiy members can’t enforce the law and neither are they inclined to wait for the law to takes its course.
2 Sep 2010, 15:36 pm
“hoe laai jy sulke dinge op en verwag geen reaksie?”
What about your earlier post re BEES
2 Sep 2010, 15:37 pm
@Agile T*t-Tyrant(Anairetes agilis)-770: This is going to get worse before it gets better….
2 Sep 2010, 15:37 pm
@Mighty Horua(Mighty Horua)-763: The criminal justice system issues aside which prevent that from taking place: J. Arthur Brown was assaulted at the only time he wouldnt have protection: Being transported from the court to Polsmoor. Its a much shorter trip from the High Court to the prison here in Pretoria. Also Bees is a much stronger man.
2 Sep 2010, 15:37 pm
WP supporters are patient, we had to endure comments like that for almost a decade now. A few more won’t do any harm. But the wheel turns, and one of these days “we will add the silver ware”
2 Sep 2010, 15:37 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-754: No the Bulls supporters are more tolerable than the Sharks supporters. I promise you.
2 Sep 2010, 15:38 pm
@PissAnt(PissAnt)-769: You come here for the articles???? Really?????
2 Sep 2010, 15:38 pm
@PissAnt(PissAnt)-769: we never are, we are here for the friendly banter, Keo bloggers ( Grant et al), provide the platform.
2 Sep 2010, 15:38 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-772:
Yeah, like acne.
2 Sep 2010, 15:38 pm
And why dont Bees just the people of SA what really happened! How he went back to finish off the cop
2 Sep 2010, 15:39 pm
@Mighty Horua(Mighty Horua)-771:
I dont know if you noticed, but your reaction was slightly unique.
2 Sep 2010, 15:40 pm
@Mighty Horua(Mighty Horua)-763:
I’m pretty sure a prop forward of 130kgs who killed a cop with his bare hands won’t be sweating it to much.
2 Sep 2010, 15:40 pm
@Mighty Horua(Mighty Horua)-779:
Tell them Horua, tell them!
2 Sep 2010, 15:40 pm
@Zandberg Jansen(Zandberg Jansen)-774: Eish those thieving coloureds down there probably gonna come steal it here at Loftus…
disclaimer: Being a member of the coloured community myself I am immune to accusations of racism as the above constitutes self-depreciating humour…
2 Sep 2010, 15:41 pm
@Agile T*t-Tyrant(Anairetes agilis)-778: This issue will end up dividing many. Sad.
2 Sep 2010, 15:41 pm
Guys if they do fire Peter de Villiers who do you think we would get as our coach? Someone decided by the goverment? or the best available person for the job who is willing to do it?
2 Sep 2010, 15:42 pm
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-783: LoL lekke my brew. But serious WP “die currie cup kom weer”
2 Sep 2010, 15:42 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-784:
No lines of division that didn’t pre-exist.
2 Sep 2010, 15:43 pm
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-783: Duly noted. Carry on…..
2 Sep 2010, 15:43 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-733: @justrugby(justrugby)-735: this from the biggest Sharks supporting doos ie Andy Capostagno at the beginning of this year – check the dig on WP – before even one ball had been passed!
Unfulfilled promise
It has become a familiar mantra: this is the
Stormers’ year and yet a decade without
enough mongrel in the tight five has cost
them dearly. Successive coaches have
sought to obscure the deficiencies of the
pack by telling anyone who got near
enough to listen that they had scrummed
the opposition into the ground and that
there really was no problem. But there was,
and there is, and it will be the sticking point
again this season.
The great imponderables are the Sharks.
Two-thirds of the way through the 2009
tournament they had won seven games
and lost just one. They stood proudly atop
the table and then lost four of their last five
games, all on South African soil, to drop out
of semifinal contention. This year they will
be without the mercurial Frans Steyn and
Juan Hernández, while age is creeping up on
a few stalwarts.
and wait for the BIGGEST myth in KZN:
But the Sharks’ academy is the best in the
country and with the judicious introduction
of talented youngsters, the Sharks may pip
the other four franchises to a place in the
last four this time around.
2 Sep 2010, 15:43 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-784: Thing is it really doesnt have 2. We can differ about if without resorting to the cheap racial taunts.
2 Sep 2010, 15:44 pm
@PissAnt(PissAnt)-769: Are you surprised by reading his little childish outburst because Hoskins snubbed him? If they give the media their opinions, they are fools. If they don’t talk to the media, they are arogant. Reality is PdV will see out his term, lets move on now…
2 Sep 2010, 15:45 pm
@rossoneri(rossoneri)-775: because the Bulls supporters can point out meaningful successes….
2 Sep 2010, 15:45 pm
@Agile T*t-Tyrant(Anairetes agilis)-787: Sure, but kept below the surface…
@Brigadier Van Zyl(Brigadier Van Zyl)-781: yeah, don;t see Bees being anyone’s prison b itch. he may well get targeted, just like Mike Tyson was by someone trying to cultivate a reputation….
2 Sep 2010, 15:47 pm
@bo0m(bo0m)-785: who are you?, and which coach has ever been chosen by a government?
2 Sep 2010, 15:48 pm
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-783:
I was chatting on a chess site the other day, where you play chess against people from all over the world.
So, some guy starts chatting to me from Malaysia, and asks me what flag is mine.
I say: South Africa
He says: ok.
I say: yours?
He says: MSA
I say: Meningitis Survivors Association (you know, because he was playing poorly).
He says: Malaysia
I say: We have a bunch of your decendants here in the Cape, please come fetch them.
Your Chat Abuse Has Been Reported
2 Sep 2010, 15:49 pm
@Agile T*t-Tyrant(Anairetes agilis)-795:
People are so sensitive.
2 Sep 2010, 15:49 pm
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-790: Sure we should be able to, and most will, but you know the lunatic fringe….
@Transformation(Transformation)-789: I knew I could count on you to expose the hypocrisy….
Best fetcher there is i tell you…..Heinrich who?
2 Sep 2010, 15:52 pm
@Agile T*t-Tyrant(Anairetes agilis)-795: lol! You play chess too? Which site? Chesscube? If yes, my userhandle is “Makaveli4eva”. We should play some time.
2 Sep 2010, 15:52 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-797:
Stegmann……
2 Sep 2010, 15:54 pm
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-798:
I was just on instant chess, I will register with Chesscube and find you. thanks. Nothing like beating a man in a mind sport. It’s like wiping your @ss with silk.
2 Sep 2010, 15:54 pm
.
Save Krusty !
2 Sep 2010, 15:55 pm
@Agile T*t-Tyrant(Anairetes agilis)-800: I’ll go on there sometime and beat you all…..
2 Sep 2010, 15:56 pm
@Agile T*t-Tyrant(Anairetes agilis)-800: lol. Should warn you I hold provincial colours in chess (Sad, I know). Best finish at the SA’s was 4th. Might not be as easy.
2 Sep 2010, 15:57 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-802:
Dont be so confidant I’m a tactician. And when in doubt, I charge up the board to confuse matters.
2 Sep 2010, 15:57 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-797: i mean the guy didn’t discuss the jaqur fourie / habana acquisitions, juan de jongh, alister taking over, luke watson leaving – nothing! All he could think of wrt WP was that their tight five is kak and has been kak for a decade and this guy gets paid by the mail & guardian to write weekly rugby columns!!! Ffs
2 Sep 2010, 15:57 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-758: Lol. someone with ballas would just say f.uck off straight
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-765: Weazel words “attacking the Sharks unprovoked”, tut, tut…
@rossoneri(rossoneri)-775: f.ck off, smelly
@Robzim(Robzim)-764: why wait? you’re gagging for it…
@Transformation(Transformation)-789: at least he supports something unlike a certain flip-flopping blogger…
2 Sep 2010, 15:58 pm
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-803:
SA open or closed?
My best mate has Platina colours, and I smash him. So…..
2 Sep 2010, 15:58 pm
outtahere, cheers for now rugger supporters and hypocrites (you know who you all are)
2 Sep 2010, 15:59 pm
I see this has deteriorated into a Sharks hating Province. Sign me up!!!!…. I absolutely hate Province and their supporters.
2 Sep 2010, 16:00 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-789: SO why is the Sharks academy a big myth. What’s happened with the under 19 andunder 21 performances this year. What about Lambie,Mvovo etc
2 Sep 2010, 16:00 pm
@Black Panther(Black Panther)-801: how’s the pressure?
2 Sep 2010, 16:01 pm
@Agile T*t-Tyrant(Anairetes agilis)-807: Open. Havent played competitively for about 7 years now, last stint was at varsity. but Im sure I still have what it takes.
Mate of mine is the number 1 ranked player in the country (Kenny Solomon) I’ve beaten him. Once. When he was drunk. And totally passed out. Ok, he wasnt even in the room.
2 Sep 2010, 16:04 pm
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-812:
Kenny hey? I’m impressed. Even if he was drunk, was it blitz , rapid or classic?
His rating is around 2300, isn’t it?
They can kill you in your sleep.
2 Sep 2010, 16:05 pm
Anyway, I’ll register and you and Stormersboy can consider yourselves schooled.
SB, what’s your username?
2 Sep 2010, 16:06 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-808:
bye
2 Sep 2010, 16:07 pm
@bananaboy(bananaboy)-810: the Sharks ‘academy’ is Free State rugby union!!!
do u want me to count the number of players from FS you guys have ‘nurtured’? Hahaha
2 Sep 2010, 16:07 pm
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-812:
Oh, -_-
Just read the rest of the post, he wasn’t even there.
2 Sep 2010, 16:09 pm
@Agile T*t-Tyrant(Anairetes agilis)-813: It was blitz. I’ve beaten the number three ranked female player in the country fairly and squarly a number of times though. Used to date her. Maybe she let me.
2 Sep 2010, 16:09 pm
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-812:
I think I’ll make my username “Memebr Murdering Monster”, or “Bishop Bashing Bas@rd”, or “King Killing Klong”, or something…..
2 Sep 2010, 16:11 pm
@Agile T*t-Tyrant(Anairetes agilis)-814: Wonder if Skoppie plays? This might be an ideal way to settle some longstanding fueds…
2 Sep 2010, 16:11 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-789: How can anyone take Andy serious
Him and blades sound like pedos the way they quote school names during a match
2 Sep 2010, 16:12 pm
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-818:
I almost was beating Dalene Widd iin the Caro-kann as white, and then I made a mistake, my showing her my next move going:
“This is my next move *runs rook down the e-file*…do you want to resign?”
JA, humility was never one of my strong suits. I overlooked an intermezzo with back-rank check, and ended up losing. She is a real female dog.
2 Sep 2010, 16:13 pm
You can tell the pendulum is swinging. Keo has become a chess club. The geek may yet inherit the earth.
2 Sep 2010, 16:13 pm
@Agile T*t-Tyrant(Anairetes agilis)-822:
2 Sep 2010, 16:13 pm
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-820:
Yeah, it’ll end in him committing suicide.
2 Sep 2010, 16:14 pm
*Daleen Wiid
2 Sep 2010, 16:14 pm
@katman(katman)-823: Lets go Katman. You and me. Right here. Right now! e4………
2 Sep 2010, 16:14 pm
@katman(katman)-823:
It’s better than the swinging Muirs around here.
2 Sep 2010, 16:14 pm
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-827:
c5
2 Sep 2010, 16:15 pm
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-827:
Wait, I want to be white!
A round of paper-scissor-rock to decide the colour?
2 Sep 2010, 16:15 pm
.
Justice4 Krusty !
2 Sep 2010, 16:16 pm
@Agile T*t-Tyrant(Anairetes agilis)-830:
you first
2 Sep 2010, 16:16 pm
Why do Keo want PdV gone? Who else are they gonna write about? I promise you traffic on this site will slow.**
Be careful of what you wish for.
**The last two 600+ comment articles have been about PdV.
2 Sep 2010, 16:17 pm
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-803: You’ll both be too much for me I’m afraid….But I’m always game for the fight……
2 Sep 2010, 16:17 pm
@Agile T*t-Tyrant(Anairetes agilis)-829:Sicillian defence? Oh come on. Be a man, meet the challenge head on with e5. I wanna play Kings gambit.
2 Sep 2010, 16:17 pm
A group of chess enthusiasts had checked into a hotel, and were standing in the lobby discussing their recent tournament victories. After about an hour, the manager came out of the office and asked them to disperse.
“But why?” they asked, as they moved off.
“Because,” he said, “I can’t stand chess nuts boasting in an open foyer.”
2 Sep 2010, 16:19 pm
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-835:
I wanna play Najdorf
2 Sep 2010, 16:19 pm
Or Sicillian Dragon
2 Sep 2010, 16:20 pm
@katman(katman)-836:
I’m an amateur
2 Sep 2010, 16:20 pm
@Agile T*t-Tyrant(Anairetes agilis)-838: I resign as I need to head on home. Have a good day!
2 Sep 2010, 16:21 pm
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-835:
Aaaaanyway, c5 ******.
Your move.
2 Sep 2010, 16:21 pm
@JL1(JL1)-821: hahaha i know!
who does it really appeal to, to hear that Pat Lambie went to Michaelhouse EVERY game the Sharks play on tv? 
i’ve been watching a bit of the ITM cup, i’ve haven’t heard where zac guilford or julian savea went to high school
2 Sep 2010, 16:21 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-816: So when does an academy start? before or after school? Potential is ID’ed at school level but honed and developed thereafter not only in rugby
2 Sep 2010, 16:22 pm
@katman(katman)-836: lololololololol niiiice….
2 Sep 2010, 16:22 pm
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-840:
Meh, ok, your rating is so low I probably would have had rating points deducted from me even if I won anyway
Bye
2 Sep 2010, 16:22 pm
I wonder what would happen if Keo held a party for all the bloggers to meet..now that would be entertaining I can just imagine.
2 Sep 2010, 16:23 pm
@Black Panther(Black Panther)-831: Seems you are alone, oh dear, no one to play with
2 Sep 2010, 16:32 pm
This from Rugby365.com:
“The Wallabies are confident that playmaker Matt Giteau will be cleared for their Tri-Nations showdown with the Springboks on Bloemfontein on Saturday.
Australia’s medical staff confirmed that the star inside back injured his ankle at a training session at the team’s Durban base on Wednesday.
Giteau’s ankle was iced after the incident, which occurred at the Australian side’s session at Moses Mabhida Stadium.
Wallaby coach Robbie Deans was unconcerned about the injury.
“Gits rolled his ankle,” he told AAP.
“Since then he’s coped with lunch pretty well.”
2 Sep 2010, 16:36 pm
Xhosakid
Does this ancestor vibe really work?
My domestic executive recently asked for one of her special interest, free flexible payment, open ended installment loans.
When I demurred over the amount and the indefinite payback period she muttered darkly about talking to her ancestors about me…
Since then I’ve lost my ID book, had a flat tyre and there is a scorch mark on my paul smith suit.
To cap it all off she refuses to where the bulls shirt I bought her for Christmas.
How worried should I be?
2 Sep 2010, 16:37 pm
Gunther
Hardenthefuck up…..
2 Sep 2010, 16:38 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-850: ;lol:
2 Sep 2010, 16:38 pm
*:lol:
2 Sep 2010, 16:38 pm
noooooo
2 Sep 2010, 16:41 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-214:
Jake was choosen to be the coach on merit not colour. PdV was chosen because of his ski colour. That is racism. No one should support racist policies, regardless of whether they are aimed at majority or minority groups.
2 Sep 2010, 16:48 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-789: If I ever meet Andy I will kick him in the nuts.
2 Sep 2010, 16:50 pm
Have a great evening everyone. Yes you too Heavensgame.
2 Sep 2010, 16:51 pm
@rossoneri(rossoneri)-856: Cheers Ros
2 Sep 2010, 16:54 pm
@gunther(gunther)-849:
You can start worrying when you are pulled over by the metropolice.
2 Sep 2010, 16:57 pm
@rossoneri(rossoneri)-856:
bye
2 Sep 2010, 16:58 pm
@Inevitable(Inevitable)-854: pdv had the right amount of credentials! Do you know anything about the Employment Equity Act of south africa?
2 Sep 2010, 17:01 pm
@bananaboy(bananaboy)-843: yeah Meyer Bosman is a high school kid, pfttt
please! Then Jannie du Plessis was a doctor right out of high school 
2 Sep 2010, 17:11 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-860: the act that states
to achieve equity in the workplace, by….
….b. implementing affirmative action measures to redress the disadvantages in employment experienced by designated groups, to ensure their equitable representation in all occupational categories and levels in the workforce.
“designated groups” means black people, women and people with disabilities;
@Inevitable(Inevitable)-854: I sh.it you not, Orwell could never have imagined this.
2 Sep 2010, 17:15 pm
Golden oldies reunion at the Bulls in 25 years time, Bees’s propping and Tromp at hooker now thats a mean front row.
2 Sep 2010, 17:16 pm
@gunther(gunther)-849: Be very worried
2 Sep 2010, 17:18 pm
Stormersnooi
You don’t mess with the spirit world…
2 Sep 2010, 17:20 pm
Found this on foxsport website on a story about the PDivvy thing. Well done JC the Aussies rate you, I’ll post it on your first story tomorrow.
“Regardless of what happens in the final Tri-Nations Test on Saturday, Peter de Villiers can no longer be tolerated,” blogger Jon Cardinelli wrote on the respected keo.co.za website.
2 Sep 2010, 17:21 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-862: yes, because those ‘designated groups’ were systematically excluded from participating in activities that other people eslewhere in the world take for granted that human beings should enjoy as rights and not privileges!!!! You can sit in England and be judgemental, good riddance! You offer no solutions for the quagmire that is south africa
2 Sep 2010, 17:33 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-867: Judgemental?? It is as it is.
2 Sep 2010, 17:35 pm
@rossoneri(rossoneri)-856: Night, night Transie’s itsheri…
2 Sep 2010, 17:36 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-868: your Orwellian musings are judgemental as if you have NO idea why such measures are needed…convinient amnesia!
Stay there!
2 Sep 2010, 17:44 pm
Pdv looked so stupid when he stood outside the dressing room hugging all the players after australia on sat…I wonder how many of the players wanted to push him out of the way!!!
2 Sep 2010, 17:45 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-870: how is an Orwell “musing” judgemental? try not turn this into an “evil-mlungu umhlobo” tirade now…
2 Sep 2010, 17:52 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-860:
Yes we know all about that and it appears increasingly obvious that even after 15 years your government has no intention of scrapping it. But, what has the Emp Equity law have to do with choosing a national coach? Are you suggesting that SARU were forced to hire a black person?
If you were about to go to war, would you appoint the most competent general (black or white) or would you be forced to select someone based solely on his skin colour?
2 Sep 2010, 17:54 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-872: do you know that ‘umhlobo’ means FRIEND in isiXhosa
hahaha
2 Sep 2010, 17:54 pm
@ossewa(ossewa)-871: Kankow looked very miffed and tried to fob PdV off
2 Sep 2010, 17:55 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-874: wena umhlobo wam?
2 Sep 2010, 17:56 pm
@Inevitable(Inevitable)-873: when you have two candidates with equal abilities, EE stipulates that the one from the ‘designated group’ gets the job…simple actually
2 Sep 2010, 17:57 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-874: Funny innit…
2 Sep 2010, 18:00 pm
@WP_(WP_)-876: only if you come in peace and not with a bible in your left hand and a rifle in your right one
2 Sep 2010, 18:02 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-877:
OK, so in your opinion was Heyneke Meyer on a par with PdV as far as ability goes?
2 Sep 2010, 18:03 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-877: actually evidence suggests “when you have two candidates, EE stipulates that the one from the ‘designated group’ gets the job, no matter if the preferred candidate has a comparative complete lack of ability…”
2 Sep 2010, 18:05 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-878: and you should know I don’t talk that tsotsi-taal…
umhlobo ngesiZulu?
2 Sep 2010, 18:07 pm
@Inevitable(Inevitable)-880: no MY opinion, the President’s Council’s opinion or whoever made up the technical team to employ the Bok coach…
2 Sep 2010, 18:09 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-879: No rifles mate
haha only rugby talk
2 Sep 2010, 18:10 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-883: Who will be the next Bok coach? Eric Sauls? I hope its AC
2 Sep 2010, 18:12 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-881: what is a ‘comparamble lack of ability’ and how is it measured? In the case of pdv, how could one deduce that he has a ‘comparable lack of ability’ when he has been nick mallet’s assistant, won the u21 world cup..?.
2 Sep 2010, 18:14 pm
@WP_(WP_)-885: I think Chilliboy has spent enough time studying from the sidelines to carry on from where P-Divvy left off!
2 Sep 2010, 18:15 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-886: Not talking about PdV. Likewise how do you measure “equal” abilities when no 2 people can be the same… hmmm
2 Sep 2010, 18:22 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-883:
If that was the same “team” that decided to get rid of your WC winning coach you should not be smiling, unless of course you agree with what they did?
2 Sep 2010, 18:23 pm
@WP_(WP_)-885: actually i wouldn’t mind if Nick Mallet came back…
2 Sep 2010, 18:26 pm
@Inevitable(Inevitable)-889: have you ever read ‘in black & white’? Good riddance to bad rubbish mate!
2 Sep 2010, 18:28 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-888: who are we talking about then? You haven’t answered how you measure a ‘comparable lack of ability’
2 Sep 2010, 18:33 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-891:
The Boks are a genuine “equity” team. Apart from the white and black players we have a few Sharks representing the disabled and WO, the women.
2 Sep 2010, 18:36 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-892: aa can be spun this way and that – plain thing is, its discriminatory and is adversely affecting the competitiveness of Sa on an international level.
Much lucrative work will be available, I would imagine, for consultants to hold the hands of managers/executives, in over their heads, after this series of strikes is over…
lotsa money made over incompetence… consultants dream…
2 Sep 2010, 18:37 pm
@David(David)-893: LOL
classic chirp!
2 Sep 2010, 18:39 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-894: that’s why i’m in consultancy
2 Sep 2010, 18:40 pm
@David(David)-893: and a good few from wepee brokebackvillea to represent the LGBIT community… heck jean de villiers is adequate representation for donkeys of sa – equity abounds, yegads…
2 Sep 2010, 18:40 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-894: look HG i’m no HR guru but ican imagine there are ways to compare the “equal” competency levels of candidates.
2 Sep 2010, 18:42 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-896: whats that, a tendertrepeneur is known as a consultant these days in msanzi?
2 Sep 2010, 18:44 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-897:
Too late and too predictable, you need some new material.
2 Sep 2010, 18:48 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-898: whoever the hirer prefers gets the job… the psychometrics, competency scoring and interviews objectivise to a certain extent, but in the end all smoke and mirrors…
2 Sep 2010, 18:50 pm
@David(David)-900: truth can be tiresome…
JdV the donkey is relatively new material…
outtahere
2 Sep 2010, 19:35 pm
It will take more than the excising of PdeV and/or H to expunge the “joke” tag. Perhaps the better option is to learn to live with it?
2 Sep 2010, 19:56 pm
@Mighty Horua(Mighty Horua)-160:
Not saying much about the Bees story now are you ****?
2 Sep 2010, 20:16 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-898:
“Equal” is meaningless when you discrimate against a persons colour, law or no law.
2 Sep 2010, 21:35 pm
.
Make Krusty
Not War !
2 Sep 2010, 22:03 pm
imagine what a little p rick like grant10 is feelig whilst watching a John Smit tribute program.
well done Smitty!
2 Sep 2010, 22:16 pm
just what saffas love to do to make clay foot idol statues they can bow down to in abject adulation and hero worshiping abeisances from dawn to eternity, fawning their stupified idolizing idiocy up to other idiots as gods and legends because they got no character of their own, so they gotta make some mortal fool poephol into a stupid deity of hero worship adulation.
Pathetic ain’t even the word. Pffft.
2 Sep 2010, 22:23 pm
@skopskiet(yliad)-908: that’s exactly how i feel skop!
2 Sep 2010, 22:25 pm
@rangerman(rangerman)-907:
either squirming in his massaging recliner…………..
or watching last week’s 7de laan
2 Sep 2010, 22:29 pm
pity innit transie you reckon these fool idiot fawning fagg’t idol worshiping saffatjies ever gonna grow up?
2 Sep 2010, 22:31 pm
@rangerman(rangerman)-907:
All sentimental and misty eyed are we ??
Have a sip on that single malt, it will help !!!
2 Sep 2010, 22:32 pm
@charo(charo)-910: I reckon he watches re-runs of Baywatch, loves The Hoff, I am sure
2 Sep 2010, 22:33 pm
@charo(charo)-910: charo…..dont mean to be rude…..i know you older tham me…..so with respect mate…..
Go Fark yourself.
2 Sep 2010, 22:34 pm
@JL1(JL1)-913: ditto you ….racist scumbag.
2 Sep 2010, 22:36 pm
@charo(charo)-910: @rangerman(rangerman)-907: @JL1(JL1)-913:
Have the decency to talk cr ap about somone when they are online, rather cowardly to knock someone when they not present !!!
2 Sep 2010, 22:37 pm
@grant10(grant10)-915: Nice and tanked up I see
Very strong tonight, something on telly making you so excited?
Pond life like you loves to always say others are racist, hey!
2 Sep 2010, 22:38 pm
@grant10(grant10)-914:
my back’s not what it used to be…..
you are asking me to do something impossible…
nice though to see you have good old school principles.
2 Sep 2010, 22:38 pm
@grant10(grant10)-915:
oops see you are here !!! good on you !!
2 Sep 2010, 22:39 pm
@skopskiet(yliad)-908: you are so clever.
you stupid ******.
11:11. time for some introspection for you, take your time.
@charo(charo)-910: hopefully he is puking on himself or on jr.
@justrugby(justrugby)-912: ho ho ho.
smitty is a legend. you and grant are legendary camp heroes.
sip sip….eish, this single malt is almost as classy as the sharks
2 Sep 2010, 22:39 pm
@justrugby(justrugby)-916: He does not deserve any decency, after calling me many things before, over and over
2 Sep 2010, 22:41 pm
@justrugby(justrugby)-916: Maybe he can wait for Smit to be online when he is next so strong
2 Sep 2010, 22:42 pm
@rangerman(rangerman)-920:
Delusional !!!
Copious amounts of the good stuff can do that !!
2 Sep 2010, 22:42 pm
@skopskiet(yliad)-911: i reckon they feel validated when they believe in the same mortal fool poephol as the rest of Kings Park. You know how these dizzy idiotic deluded dumbells get depressed when they’re not in herd…
2 Sep 2010, 22:42 pm
@justrugby(justrugby)-916: ag, grow a pair buddy you and gwantie had a party discussing me when i wasnt around.
you dont like it?
beg to join the JS is a Legend Club and i will consider dropping the issue.
otherwise you shall remain on my sh it list.
2 Sep 2010, 22:43 pm
@Agile T*t-Tyrant(Anairetes agilis)-187:
Jy was natuurlik self daar.
@Agile T*t-Tyrant(Anairetes agilis)-161:
“Like I said, I only feel sorry for the 9-year old kid, for having been brought into a family like that.”
You obviously have all the facts already. Why not wait for the court to make its verdict.
@Panzer Chief(cane)-593:
What about me?
Most probably an R-T guy in any case.
2 Sep 2010, 22:43 pm
@justrugby(justrugby)-916:
what you on about?
g10 is on line….
and before me as well.
you are far too protective of your mate.
i would think he is big and handsome enough to look after himself???????
2 Sep 2010, 22:44 pm
@rangerman(rangerman)-925:
John is a diminishing legend , best he retire to retain the status ……..how’s that for a compromise ?
2 Sep 2010, 22:45 pm
@justrugby(justrugby)-923: yes yes.
you and the speedoman are so grounded. a pair of nobodies vs a bok hero who has played 100 test.
big competition.
what a ****** joke.
2 Sep 2010, 22:48 pm
@grant10(grant10)-915:
Why would you call the “boy” a racist scumbag? Come on G10, it’s most unlike you. Fighting with laaities and calling them names nogal.
“Hey, teacher, give them kids a chance”
2 Sep 2010, 22:49 pm
little barking dogs….
LOL
goodnite all.
outta here
2 Sep 2010, 22:49 pm
@rangerman(rangerman)-929: what happened to allowing people to have their opinions on smit without you putting them on childulish ‘sh*t lists’? Grow up man
grant owns you my man, i bet you had nightmares about him when u when in scotland
2 Sep 2010, 22:50 pm
@nama1(nama1)-930: ja
sorry
a scumbag is high on the dcency chain compared to that oke…..
hope he stays overseas…
cheers
2 Sep 2010, 22:51 pm
@charo(charo)-927: they claim there is nothing more than friendship between them.
whatever.
@justrugby(justrugby)-928: best you kneel down and admit you are but a pathetically inferior human being, no leader of men and sadly inferior rugby player, analyst and RUGBY MAN in comparison to Smitty.
eberyone knows it, your mates, your family. they think you and gnat are slightly pathetic but dont dare say so because spittle is not so pleasant on the face.
now i am off to bed. feel free to discuss me. i give as much of a toss about you and grants opinion as JS.
to the rest, goodnight.
2 Sep 2010, 22:54 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-932:
Grant’s entitled to his opinion, yeah. It’s just when it is played over and over and over ad f u king nausium, then the opinion is tainted. The fact that the opinion itself is f uked as well is besides the point!
2 Sep 2010, 22:56 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-932: grant owns you and i own grant.
if you want to buk for him thats your issue pellie.
2 Sep 2010, 22:56 pm
@grant10(grant10)-933:
Daai man verstaan nou niks wat jy bedoel nie, maar moenie worrie nie, ek/ons verstaan. Ek stem saam, laat hy daar bly. Ons mis hom glad nie. Haha.
Lekker slaap.
2 Sep 2010, 22:57 pm
ok i am out.
i was just being polite transie, good night.
2 Sep 2010, 22:58 pm
@nama1(nama1)-930: That is all does, name calling all day and night, real pathetic sand scab
2 Sep 2010, 22:58 pm
@rangerman(rangerman)-934:
Whe my wife saw JS running down the tunnnel for his 100th game she said …….”Geeeez why is that guy so fat” !!!
I dropped my Windhoek laughing !!!!
2 Sep 2010, 22:59 pm
@rangerman(rangerman)-936:
So you say Grant buk for you?
2 Sep 2010, 23:00 pm
stupid little tossed up pr!ck ranger prude masturbating all night long in front of his JS blowup doll at the bottom of his bed, probably wonders what its like smelling the perfume that exudes out that lardy lard lard@sses @rse.
2 Sep 2010, 23:02 pm
Öh SH*T McCalman has called out that showpony Spies by name! Forget running through brickwalls McCalman runs through Spies!!!!
Spies not at all intimidating
20 minutes ago
Stephen Nell
Durban – Wallaby No 8 Ben McCalman is not
at all intimidated about the prospect of
facing Pierre Spies in Saturday ’s Tri-Nations
Test in Bloemfontein.
“Pierre played his best Test (of the year)
last week, but I have confidence after
playing against him earlier this year, ” said
McCalman.
He was referring to the Wallabies’ 30-13
win in Brisbane.
McCalman came on as a substitute 10
minutes before the end and helped Will
Genia knock the last nail into the coffin of
the Springboks ’ Tri-Nations title ambitions.
“I got the ball from Will Genia and ran into
Spies. I got the better of him in that
situation. It was a great moment and made
me realise that I want more Test rugby. Will
scored shortly after that, ” he said.
The Wallabies are clinging to the win in
Brisbane and the lead that was surrendered
at Loftus Versfeld last week as evidence
that they have what it takes to beat the
Boks in Bloemfontein.
“Everyone is disappointed that we could
not convert that lead into a victory last
week, ” said McCalman.
“The Boks are physical, but the important
thing is that we stick to our plan and take
the game to them. Hopefully it can work in
our favour if we can move those big guys
around a bit. ”
McCalman, skipper Rocky Elsom and fetcher
David Pocock will be involved in an
interesting battle of the loose forward
combinations with Spies, Juan Smith and
Schalk Burger.
Pocock told Sport24 on Thursday that the
new application of the breakdown laws are
good for the game because it encourages
attacking rugby.
He believes there are still opportunities for
fetching flanks to win turnover possession.
“You have to be careful about getting
involved at the breakdown because you
can easily concede a penalty. But I still
believe there are plenty of opportunities at
the breakdown, ” said Pocock.
The Wallaby star expects Heinrich Brüssow
to adapt easily when he returns from his
knee injury.
“I believe players with that kind of ability
will always find a way of doing well. One of
the nice things about rugby and all its
intricacies is that you always have to think
on the field. I believe Brüssow will do well
when he returns. ”
2 Sep 2010, 23:04 pm
hardly came running out the tunnel, more like waddled down it, could almost say rolled down it, or wobbled, flabbergasted at all the flab waddling this a way and that as he glided toward his 100th game dream nightmare.
Actually fitting that the one to miss the last gasp tackle was the centurion of hero legends himself, almost a fitting expose to the legendary night in shining armor of the wobbly wombleby club.
2 Sep 2010, 23:04 pm
@JL1(JL1)-939:
Yeah, I don’t think he was alone wrt the Sharkies, I think they were probably first. Us WP supporters NEVER insult another person first. We only insult in reaction, if you catch my drift.
2 Sep 2010, 23:08 pm
@nama1(nama1)-945: Hy mask my naar
Over and over and over, no wonder the Sharkies do not like him
2 Sep 2010, 23:08 pm
@skopskiet(yliad)-944:
You a real spitefull piece of work hey? A real nut job.
2 Sep 2010, 23:10 pm
936. rangerman(rangerman)Reply to this comment :
September 2nd, 2010 at 10:56 pm
“@Transformation(Transformation)-932: grant owns you and i own grant.
if you want to buk for him thats your issue pellie.”
Wie buk vir wie hierso?
Transie vir G10 of G10 vir Ranger?
2 Sep 2010, 23:11 pm
Well ranger after 2 sips of his newly purchased single malt has noddded off so in the right spirit of things I won’t call him a numbnut until he is online !!!
Cheers all
2 Sep 2010, 23:12 pm
@whatever(whatever)-947: Bitter, I think is the word that you are looking for
2 Sep 2010, 23:13 pm
@whatever(whatever)-935: i’m not suggesting you agree with it whatever or do you also have a sh*t list for thetackler, black panther & poppa
@rangerman(rangerman)-936: he owns you big time boytjie! There you are watching your fake idol Plod’s special but the first thing that pops into your mind is ‘i wonder what Grant is doing?’
pathetic…buck up :razz
2 Sep 2010, 23:16 pm
@JL1(JL1)-946:
Maybe he doesn’t care if the Sharkies don’t like him. Ever thought about that?
Lots of people don’t like YOU. Does it bother you? I would think, not. Cause you don’t know them and they don’t know you.
Same thing.
2 Sep 2010, 23:19 pm
@nama1(nama1)-945:
Jy het my teleurgestel omdat jy my nie reg gewys het nie.
Ek moes ranke getik het en nie stronke nie, of miskien vir daardie oukie moet dit stronke(mielies) wees.
Ek sien hy is nog steeds deurmekaar, myns insien erger as tevore vandag.
2 Sep 2010, 23:19 pm
@nama1(nama1)-952: No, he comes across too ego centrical to not care
It bugs him
2 Sep 2010, 23:23 pm
@skopskiet(yliad)-944: Skop,
Have you ever achieved anything in your life? Maybe not. Is that why you are so nasty towards someone like JS that has achieved almost everything any rugby player would only dream of in his rugby playing years? Be totally fair now.
Why are South Africans so critical of their own? A real shame really. If this was any other country they would be so proud of their captain.
Too read comments here is sad really. Makes me wonder why we as South Africans are not united. Probably why so many South Africans have left this country. Seem as if we will always fight each other. Really sad to read some of the nast comments here by only some. Makes me wonder if we will ever grow as a nation. I hoped we could after a magnificent world cup. Somehow don’t think that will ever happen.
Come now all Bok supporters when Boks are playing we should just get behind our team AS ONE NATION. STOP lookine through our provincial glasses. Sad really. Probably the way South Africa will always be. Sport, business, life in general. We are a sad bunch. Only a very few of us have hope. Real pity we could be the envy of the world if we stood together as one.
Untied we stand tall. Divided we will fall.
2 Sep 2010, 23:23 pm
heres a Luke Watson salute to you too whatever the skip n run idol worshiping clown from down under the cancerous curtain of clay footed dream merchants
one little clay pigeon holed cancer stick clay model hero is just as good as the next once you come around to realize just how feeble your pathetic wobbly idolization which gets all overloaded with dumbbells gorging on goody gumdrops squashed flat guavas are all gravitating toward lard@ss @rses with glee.
2 Sep 2010, 23:25 pm
@Puma(Puma)-955: Sorry for typos there.
Cheer everyone.
2 Sep 2010, 23:31 pm
Save it for the Pope Puma
I’m not into fallible hero worshiping ‘ssholes up each others over inflated hyperventilated wobbling @nuses
People got strengths and weaknesses, each and every one. How come double standard idiots like some of you lot ready to cast some individuals into your hell holes of villainous vexation and others you want to lord up as hero’s and prissy pompous legends
You dumb schmuck delusional, no such thing, some people got some strengths and so have others, but its fools like these that exude hero worshiping status onto fallible fancy fools that need to get their head read and realize exactly where the cancer actually begins or ends.
2 Sep 2010, 23:32 pm
@skopskiet(yliad)-956:
heres a salute to Puke Watson………
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………………..,/¯../
………………./…./
…………./´¯/’…’/´¯¯`•¸
………/’/…/…./……/ ¯\
……..(’(…´…´…. ¯~/’…’)
………\……………..’…../
……….’\’…\………. _.•´
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2 Sep 2010, 23:33 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-951:
Tacklers fine, Popps is okay when he gets off his high horse…..wet pantie on da udder hand……….
2 Sep 2010, 23:35 pm
@whatever(whatever)-959:
2 Sep 2010, 23:35 pm
@justrugby(justrugby)-949:
Lekker slaap “mini me”
@ET(ET)-953:
Sal bietjie vra. Ek weet ons praat van mieliestronke en pampoenranke. Hier’s baie boere op die site, hulle sal kan uithelp. Jammer as ek jou verkeerd gelei het.
Los vir HG. Hy’s na my mening ‘n orraite ou. Nog nooit enigeiets rassisties of iets dergeliks van hom ervaar nie. “In fact” nog nooit iets soos daai van enige blogger op die site ervaar nie. Hang net af hoe “sensitief” jy is rakende sulke dinge. Hulle moet net nie aan jou ma raak nie, soos Quota Sux met my gedoen het nie, dan raak dit iets anders.
@JL1(JL1)-954:
Sometimes you come across the same. Always righteous. Maybe it’s not the way you wanted but from where I’m sitting, a lot of your arguments/points come across like that.
Pot/kettle?
2 Sep 2010, 23:35 pm
@justrugby(justrugby)-949:
Lekker slaap “mini me”
@ET(ET)-953:
Sal bietjie vra. Ek weet ons praat van mieliestronke en pampoenranke. Hier’s baie boere op die site, hulle sal kan uithelp. Jammer as ek jou verkeerd gelei het.
Los vir HG. Hy’s na my mening ‘n orraite ou. Nog nooit enigeiets rassisties of iets dergeliks van hom ervaar nie. “In fact” nog nooit iets soos daai van enige blogger op die site ervaar nie. Hang net af hoe “sensitief” jy is rakende sulke dinge. Hulle moet net nie aan jou ma raak nie, soos Quota Sux met my gedoen het nie, dan raak dit iets anders.
@JL1(JL1)-954:
Sometimes you come across the same. Always righteous. Maybe it’s not the way you wanted to express yourself but from where I’m sitting, a lot of your arguments/points come across like that.
Pot/kettle?
2 Sep 2010, 23:36 pm
“heres a Luke Watson salute to you too whatever the skip n run idol worshiping clown”
Skip and run……….yup Puke skipped and ran to Bath
Clown……… yup we have idol hero trying to coach the Boks
Sometimes you really put your idiot boot into it hey?
2 Sep 2010, 23:37 pm
there you go dumb@ss hero worshiping twat, you got villains and hero’s all f’ck’d up around your dumb schmuck brain you @sshole deluded twat idiot
shove that middle finger where it fits best schmuckaroo, cos that paints you for exactly what you are a feeble dumb schmuck delinquent nincompoop twat@ss that got one idiot as a hero and another as a villain, you simply don’t know your own ‘nus from your dumb schmuck elbow, and thats why you got hero’s on pedestals with cancerous calamity all oozing out your dumb schmuck brain.
2 Sep 2010, 23:37 pm
@skopskiet(yliad)-958: Skop, You blame so many for leaving this country. Please just take a look at so many of your posts. Really mate it is people like you that chase many away.
Unite together is what we want. Not this in-fighting all of the time. If SA needs to be a strong nation we need to stand together just like we done in the world cup. It was brilliant then. The way it could be all of the time. Not just for 4 weeks.
As a Bok supporter I look as the team as one not through provincial glasses. We should unite together mate. Really not nice to see people here casting stones all of the time to one person who is our Bok Captain. Who has given his all. For that matter to no other player really.
Anyhow. Leave you to your fights here.
Good night everyone.
2 Sep 2010, 23:40 pm
FFS Grant you are wetting your panties like a little girl. Bees is an “alleged” murderer- which means he has not yet been convicted, and under SA law, you are INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY. Many Boks know the guy and are friends with him. By most accounts he is not a murdering type, so they are ENTOTLED to back him until he IS proven guilty.
Just like the government threw its weight behind Schaik until he was convicted, and Zuma supporters threw their weight behind Zuma until, well…. oh, thats right, he has not even been trialled yet has he? Apparently he is above the law.
PdV was not criticising the cops or their handling – he said that its is terrible that such cirrcumstances (which are yet to be determined) could pile up to result in a bad situation like that. What part dont you agree with?
The KEO gang just cannot wait to pounce on anything he saiys, and to try and warp it and twist it and use it out of context. You clearly have a (not so) hidden agenda to get rifd of Pdv. habve you ever considered that if we changed now, we would be sinking ourselves, as teh new coach would not have time to get his systems/preferred players in place, and we would have a whole new period of settling in?
You are doing SA rugby NO FAVOURS.
2 Sep 2010, 23:42 pm
@nama1(nama1)-963: No way, I do not wear Speedos
2 Sep 2010, 23:44 pm
@skopskiet(yliad)-965:
yadda yadda yadda………. ramble on like a brainless idiot in a straight jacket……….dribbling down your chin?
2 Sep 2010, 23:49 pm
@Puma(Puma)-955:
Oom Puma, you have to look at things in perspective. My take is that Skop and you are about the same age. His view is that us youngsters have to debate about things. Something that your generation were not allowed to do.
He is just playing devils advocate in most cases, trying to create an opportunity for debate.
I respect and honour him for that. I think most laaities, of which you obviously are not one, should do too.
Pity that a lot of them don’t see it that way and that they attack the messenger, something you are doing now also.
Sorry to say.
Still regard YOU as one of the gentleman bloggers. Don’t attack Skop however. Hy het altyd ‘n punt beet.
2 Sep 2010, 23:55 pm
@nama1(nama1)-970:
Well said !!!!!! Skop has been proven correct in most instances !!
2 Sep 2010, 23:56 pm
@whatever(whatever)-960: hahaha
i enjoyed that post!
2 Sep 2010, 23:57 pm
@nama1(nama1)-963:
You confuse me a bit here. What do you have ask about?
” Ek weet ons praat van mieliestronke en pampoenranke. ”
What I quote above is what I am saying and further I am just teasing you about not correcting my Afrikaans and seeking confirmation about what I should have written the other day, namely ‘pampoenranke’(not ‘stronke’).
What do you think about the outcome of the game coming Saturday?
2 Sep 2010, 23:59 pm
@justrugby(justrugby)-971: Like FDP being a pathetic little scrumhalf, yea right
3 Sep 2010, 00:06 am
@Transformation(Transformation)-972:
Howzit Transie
Just had a look at the EP Kings side. See you guys using a couple of Varsity Cup guys. Stevens at 9 – ex Matie and Gagiano at 8 – ex Ikey. A bit of experience elsewhere as well.
Has a neat look to it – no wonder they’re doing good.
3 Sep 2010, 00:06 am
@JL1(JL1)-974:
I did say in most instances
…….skop and I do differ on the FDUP issue………and that’s not a problem, he is entitled to his opinion and it makes for great debate !!
3 Sep 2010, 00:13 am
@justrugby(justrugby)-971:
Skopdoos does not even know what he is saying 99% of the time. Every now and again he makes some sense, but it’s not often!
3 Sep 2010, 00:16 am
@whatever(whatever)-977:
Not true, I find his rugby acumen one of the sharpest on the blog !!
3 Sep 2010, 00:27 am
@whatever(whatever)-977:
The trick is that you have to read between the lines.
And since Sunday, skop is starting to build up a nice collection of blow-up dolls.
WO and JS are already there.
3 Sep 2010, 00:33 am
@justrugby(justrugby)-978:
That’s a worry
3 Sep 2010, 00:34 am
@ET(ET)-973:
Partykeer is jy TE akademies en ‘n anner man wil net !ngorro. (dronk praatjies hou/ gesels). Jy moet leer om te ontspan.
Die Bokke gaan wen. Onthou die wedstryd wat jy ‘n paar keer genoem het in die week. SA vs Aus in 2008?
Ek dink dit gaan ‘n soortgelyke wedstryd wees. Bokke gaan die Aus slag.
3 Sep 2010, 00:37 am
@whatever(whatever)-980:
LOl !
3 Sep 2010, 00:43 am
@justrugby(justrugby)-982:
I’m negotiating with a woman friend of mine, whose husband died four years ago, for his golf clubs.
Can you put a price on it. Apparently he never used it as he got ill just after she bought it for him as a father’s day present. He died four months later without ever using it.
She has no sentimental value for it.
3 Sep 2010, 00:44 am
@I am a stormer(I am a stormer)-979:
he likes them plump, by all accounts………….
3 Sep 2010, 00:49 am
@whatever(whatever)-977:
Die man het saam met Paul Bayvel rugby gespeel. Weet jy wie is Paul Bayvel???
As jy nie weet nie, gaan vra jou pa. Miskien weet hy?
3 Sep 2010, 00:54 am
@JL1(JL1)-968:
Maybe not a WP/Stormers one, but a speedo nonetheless.
I’ve seen you.
3 Sep 2010, 00:57 am
986 posts, did I miss anything important?
3 Sep 2010, 00:58 am
The question now is if I can get to 1000 all on my own.
3 Sep 2010, 00:58 am
Suppose we will have to wait and see…
3 Sep 2010, 00:59 am
whatever, is jy hier?
3 Sep 2010, 00:59 am
Tackles?
3 Sep 2010, 00:59 am
Nee dit is ok, wil nie met Tackles gesels nie…
3 Sep 2010, 01:00 am
Does PDivvie have an office he needs to pack up when he goes?
3 Sep 2010, 01:00 am
When will he do that if he gets kicked out on Sunday?
3 Sep 2010, 01:01 am
When will the new coach move in?
3 Sep 2010, 01:01 am
@nama1(nama1)-981:
I said last week already that the Aussies wil earmark o that game. So watch out ‘Boks this Sat. To be forwarned is to be forearmed.
The Wallabies attitude wrt Loftus and the Highveld in general is highly questionable and suspect and last week they went out just to play a game and got a helluva fright when they scored those early easy tries and did not know how to react to their fortune after half-time by which time it was too late to regain the amazing advantage thhat they never dreamed they would have.
This week their attitude notwithstanding that Bloem.is also at altitude is different as Bloem. is far less daunting than Loftus.
I would not be surprised if they turn the tables this game.
BEWARE.
I promise not to trouble you further unless you give me reason to. For me the sun is thinking of setting.
3 Sep 2010, 01:02 am
Will G10 get a heart attack when the new coach first press conference is to tell us John has been kept on as captain till after WC2011?
3 Sep 2010, 01:02 am
@Slartibartfast(Slartibartfast)-987:
Dan is jy ‘n MAN my seun. Gaan virrie ding.
3 Sep 2010, 01:03 am
@nama1(nama1)-985:
Goeie Tvl skrumskakel ne.
3 Sep 2010, 01:03 am
trying to steal the 1000th post..
3 Sep 2010, 01:03 am
@ET(ET)-996:
I have watched many tests in Bloem, not a lot of happy memories! Hopefully Saturday will be different.
3 Sep 2010, 01:03 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-1000: yee ha… and got it too..
3 Sep 2010, 01:05 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-1000:
And as expected the Kiwi yet again peaked between World Cups!
Righto, let me do some work…
3 Sep 2010, 01:10 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-1000:
And you have, like a thief in the dark night
I did not even realise i had 999
3 Sep 2010, 01:13 am
@Slartibartfast(Slartibartfast)-1001:
That is why I say BEWARE.
On the otherhand all visitors feel Loftus is like a S.African fortress – much too daunting especially for those fragile Wallabies.
3 Sep 2010, 01:14 am
@ET(ET)-996:
My take is that the Boks realised that they CAN play with ball in hand. Yes, they still have MS at 10, who still doesn’t know when the running game is on. Yes, they still have the same players who still don’t know how to play rugby without the ball. (You just have to remember the half gaps JF and JdV created last week without support play), but I think this week PdV’s original plan may just come together. Albeit a bit too late for my liking.
Both teams will play an open game. Bloem and Loftus, to my memory, always lend themselves to good, running rugby. This weekend will be no different, I think.
3 Sep 2010, 01:18 am
@Slartibartfast(Slartibartfast)-1001:
Saw Boks vs British Lions in Bloem 1980. Old Springbok Park. Were dopping it up at Old Greys before match but had half-jack of brandy in pocket for the match. Got to the stadium and no cokes available – all sold out.
Brandy and tap water – no ice. Eish!
Missed most of second half. This after driving up from PE for the game.
But Boks won- coz Sunday papers said so.
3 Sep 2010, 01:19 am
@Slartibartfast(Slartibartfast)-1003: @ET(ET)-1004: looked to me like I was right on the money, no choking there.. Perhaps slarti it was you who choked, considering your conversation with your self in regards to the milestone..
pesky tokoloshes huh? lol
3 Sep 2010, 01:21 am
@ET(ET)-999:
Vra vir Skop. Hy’t my nie geantwoord toe ek vra nie.
Jy’s reg. Ek het net vandag met my neef dit bevestig.
Die vraag wat ons nie kon beantwoord het nie is, wie was WP se skrumskakel voor Divan/Martyn van Blommestein?
Dave Zietsman?
Waar is ou Tackler? Hy sal weet.
3 Sep 2010, 01:23 am
@nama1(nama1)-1006: I agree Nama… a lot of positives for the bokke to take out of that game in regards running the ball.. still a lot to work on too, which is ideal leading into next year… I believe the ABs also have plenty still to work on as well..
3 Sep 2010, 01:23 am
@nama1(nama1)-1006:
Your last paragraph rings very true as I was about to say that whether it is your way or my way it still leads to an anticipated mouth-watering open running game.
Was jy ooit met die ou SARU rugby betrokke in jou tuiste?
As jy ja se, wat was die Unie genoem?
3 Sep 2010, 01:25 am
After a headline like ‘Div’s Bees quote ‘devides SA’ on News24 it feels like there is more than enough reason to fire him…
I really hope he does get fired. It would make me a bit more optimistic about our chances at the world cup. Providing they appoint a decent coach, like Heyneke Meyer..
3 Sep 2010, 01:26 am
@Slartibartfast(Slartibartfast)-1003:
I was trying to help you there. You let us down!
Allowing a freakin Kiwi to beat you at the finish line! I’m disappointed in you.
3 Sep 2010, 01:28 am
@nama1(nama1)-1013: a “freakin” kiwi… thats got to be one of the nicest compliments Ive ever received on this blog
3 Sep 2010, 01:29 am
@nama1(nama1)-1009:
Hi Nama
We’re talking late 70′s early 80′s. I’m scratching my kop.
Roy Mccullum early 70′s. Des Christian- played for False Bay- went on to play for Rhodesia.
Let me know – otherwise I’ll wake in the middle of the night.
3 Sep 2010, 01:43 am
@nama1(nama1)-1009:
Zietsman was at UCT in the early ’70s studying for a B.Sc. degree and played for WP about 1974 so you could be correct depending upon what your specifi question is.
Zietsman also played for Tvl where he replaced the peviously named Paul Bayvel
3 Sep 2010, 01:44 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-1010:
Agree. Just hope they’ll carry on with what they started last week. 5 tries in a 3N match. When last did the Boks did that?
@ET(ET)-1011:
ET, ek’s van Namakwaland, so obviously was die “provinsie” se naam Namakwaland.
Ek was op die SR van ‘n inrigting toe Tobie nog voorsitter van SATISA was (onthou jy SATISA?). Daai etters het ons uitverkoop. Ek het geen respek vir hulle nie.
Hulle het ons verkoop in Kimberley toe hulle te verkak was om met Louis Luyt, Jan Pickardt, Fritz Ellof en daai manne te onderhandel vir ‘n regverdige bedeling.
Waar is ons manne van daai jare. Laat 80′s. Ek sien iemand het nou die aand Faiek se naam genoem. Onthou, Faiek en Hansie is in 1991 as ontwikkelingspelers na Aus toe geneem tydens die Wereldbeker. Hansie het SA se kaptein geword. Wat het van Faiek geword? Miskien het hy ‘n verkeerde keuse gemaak daai jaar. Hy moes liewer by rugby gebly het.
BTW. My favourite SARU speler was Makhaya Jack. Het hom in 1989 teen NANRU op Khomasdal Stadion in Windhoek gesien speel. Toetie was kaptein van daai span.
3 Sep 2010, 01:46 am
@ET(ET)-1016:
Zietsman I remember kept the younger Divan on the bench and was not a favourite of Craven who sometime later banned him.
3 Sep 2010, 01:55 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-1014:
You know you’re not going to get a lot here. Appreciate anything that comes along. Even from a Nama.
@I am a stormer(I am a stormer)-1015:
My problem also. I know Divan, afa I know played the ’79 final. You know the one where the Naasty Botha aspris trapped on Peter Whipp after he scored the try.
I can’t however remember who played SH btween , say 1975-1979 for WP. My cousin phonbed me earlier tonight and said Dave Zietsman. I, for the life of me, can’t remember him.
My question to you, who played with Robbie Blair between 1976-1981? Also, didn’t Blair play against the World team in 1977 for the Boks?
3 Sep 2010, 02:01 am
@nama1(nama1)-1017:
Satisa does not ring a bell for me. Maybe it was relevant to your area and the Kimberley area.
Man ons het altyd baie probleme gehad want ons het nie mense probeer omkoop met geld – federasie en leoperds was ons grootste vyande
The Faiek you mention must be Davids and not Majiet(youngest brother of Rushdie).
Luister ek onthou kookwater ouens soos Gerard Peters, Maurice Heemro, Keith Lentoor almal van my gebied en klub.
Te veel SARU ‘favourites’ om te noem van baie van ons spanne van WP tot Tygerberg tot Cities en Suburban tot Kwaru tot Sedru edm.
3 Sep 2010, 02:03 am
@I am a stormer(I am a stormer)-1015:
Early 80′s I can remember. It’s the late 70′s that’s a problem.
Maar oom Tackler gaan al daai draadjies vir ons losmaak. Hy was daar, moenie worrie nie.
@ET(ET)-1016:
My cousin said the same about Zietsman going to the TVL.
3 Sep 2010, 02:13 am
@nama1(nama1)-1017: as the bulls and Stormers showed, you guys can be just as effective with ball in hand…
3 Sep 2010, 02:19 am
Dan was jy seker maar nie hier in die 80′s nie. Was jy ook van die “runners”?
South African Tertiary Institution Sports Association. Iets soos daai. Al die coloured kolleges en techs en varsities het daaraan behoort. Tobie Titus (WP president) was vir jare voorsitter daarvan. Kan nie meer so lekker presies onthou waarvoor die akroniem gestaan het nie.
Ek onthou nog, in 1989 het ons die Satisa toernooi by UWK gehad, die jaar tevore by Dower in PE. In 1989 het Athlone Kolege se “laaities” nog vir UWK se “manne” lekker in hulle moer geslaan. Daai geveg was van die een kwart (ATC s’n) tot by die ander kwart (UWK) s’n.
Maurice Heemro: is dit Irvine Heemro se broer? Grassy Park se mense?
3 Sep 2010, 02:26 am
@nama1(nama1)-985:
Paul Byvel..9 for Tvl many moons ago………
3 Sep 2010, 02:27 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-1022:
If only we can believe that we can play that way at national level!!!
Coming from a history where people like Gerold Bosch, Naas Botha, Louis Koen, Braam van Straaten, Jannie de Beer and nowadays Morne Steyn were/is king, I don’t have much hope that we’ll change our style. I hope we’ll do it, but I don’t think we have the patience that the Aus have.
That’s just SA.
3 Sep 2010, 02:30 am
@whatever(whatever)-1024:
Yeah… Apparently Skop played with him.
So, die oom weet waarvan hy praat as hy oor rugby praat.
3 Sep 2010, 02:30 am
@nama1(nama1)-1025: I know… there seems to be a reluctance to use it at national level, but if they could incorporate it along with SAs traditional strengths, you guys would be a much harder team to play against…
3 Sep 2010, 02:31 am
@nama1(nama1)-1025:
You forgot de wet from OFS
3 Sep 2010, 02:34 am
@whatever(whatever)-1028:
Ras
3 Sep 2010, 02:39 am
@nama1(nama1)-1023:
Nee man maagwerk is die enigste ‘runners’ wat ek ken. Ek was druk besig in Sacos gedurende daai tydperk en ook n student by UK. Frank Van der H. was my onderwyser en later groot maat in Sacos.
Eers in 1995 hier in Philly kom studeer.
Have a faint recollection of that organisation now that you have written it in full but it is too specific for me at that time where the focus was more national esp.in Cape Town where it was really cooking.
Heemro en Lentoor was laat 60s en 70s se manne met Cities en SARU – Legends- en was oorspronklik van die Oos KAAP- Grahamstown en Baai.
3 Sep 2010, 02:39 am
@nama1(nama1)-1026:
“apparently skop played with him”…hehe, mate that does not mean he knows squat……..I’ve played with a few dumb as dudes in my time. Maybe skopdoos fits into that category?
3 Sep 2010, 02:43 am
@nama1(nama1)-1026: @whatever(whatever)-1028:
Dave Zietsman was, in fact sh for De Wet Ras at Natal sometime after playing sh for Tvl
3 Sep 2010, 02:52 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-1027:
That’s the point actually. Somebody mentioned on this site the other day that there was a time when you guys played a similar game with FH’s like Doug Rollerson, Grant Fox and the likes. With the advent of the Polynesians you’ve changed your game to accommodate their style. Hence, you now playing a running game.
Danie Craven said in 1981/82, that when SA can put a Bok team on the park consisting of white forward and coloured/black back line players, nobody will beat us.
I don’t think he was wrong. But as you can see from some bloggers on this site, we are still a long, long way from his vision.
I mean, if you call Brian Habana a quota just because he had a bad game or two/three????
What do you guys call the Rocketman????
He has been playing kak for a year now, not so?
@whatever(whatever)-1029:
I don’t think he ever played for the Boks. I was just mentioning names of FH’s that did play for the Boks.
Otherwise you could put the name of Eric Herbert also there.
3 Sep 2010, 03:13 am
@whatever(whatever)-1031:
That’s your view.
I don’t think a person who played with somebody, who was close to being a Bok, can be that kak.
Maybe you should look at yourself. Just maybe if I have the opportunity to ask the people who played with YOU, they will tell me that YOU were kak.
@ET(ET)-1030:
As jy nie SATISA kan onthou nie, dan was jy NIE ‘n student in my jare nie. SO, jy’s ‘n KIND teen my.
“Ek was druk besig in Sacos gedurende daai tydperk en ook n student by UK.”
“Eers in 1995 hier in Philly kom studeer.”
Wat soek jy by die wit mense se universiteite toe ons moet struggle om te leer. Het julle geld gehad.
(Vok, HG moet dit sien.)
Kan nie wag vir julle se volgende ronde, of is dit rondte, nie. (Help my reg, al die Afrikaanssprekendes)
Have a faint recollection of that organisation now that you have written it in full but it is too specific for me at that time where the focus was more national esp.in Cape Town where it was really cooking.
Wat beteken, jy moet omtrent die Bennets ken? Jackie??? Ek’t al op daai SR meeting in ’89 (Junie met die SATISA toernooi by UWK) gehoor van die moontlikheid van Mandela se vrylating.
3 Sep 2010, 03:16 am
@nama1(nama1)-1033: IMO NZs running game has come more from the maori influence, as well as the polynesian influence.
While kiwis may bag some of our own players, Donald, Tialumpa etc, we are no where near as abusive and denigrating to our players, unlike some of the things bandied about with regard to Bokke players on this site…
3 Sep 2010, 03:32 am
@nama1(nama1)-1034:
Worked full-tme at the Med.School as research assistant thus fees were only 25%(for staff) of what the rich ones could afford. Thus double and difficult life yet found time to create havoc elsewhere as you can imagine.
Jy onderskat die hardwerkende “downtrodden”.
I was not on those campuses where Satisa was active thus the mental block’ en jy weet mos SACOS was ver groter en nationaal. Was jy n student op UWK?
Wanneer gaan jy rus.
Daai ander ontroubare keo ou gaan ek net n groot mis gee.
Ek kyk nou ‘College football’. Dit is die eerste wydstryde van die nuwe seisoen.
3 Sep 2010, 03:35 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-1035:
Agree 100% with you.
“IMO NZs running game has come more from the maori influence, as well as the polynesian influence.”
Why do you think that is? Genuine question.
Let me tell you something. Where I live, a “coloured” school can beat a “white” school something like 35-19. But come selection time for a regional team, you’ll see the very same “white” school with 10-12 players in the team and the “coloured” school with 3 + subs. Why???
Because we believe in “let’s beat them with our WEIGHT in the forwards” rather than exploit the potential of the back line.
It pisses me off to no end, boet.
3 Sep 2010, 03:37 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-1035:
Bad things(racism)are more difficult to eradicate than the good ones eg. getting rid of a drug habit say as opposed to regularly attending church.
3 Sep 2010, 03:38 am
lay off div guys – and keo, your site is more and more like a soap opera
3 Sep 2010, 03:42 am
@don’t feed the trolls(svs)-1039:
We say so too. In fact, we say give him free reign and don’t shackle him.
3 Sep 2010, 03:44 am
@ET(ET)-1036:
Having a whole nighter here. Trying to finish some assignments while “talking” to you. Have to give it in on Sat.
Never too old to study, hey. I’ve told myself to get my doctorate before I’m 50. Maybe you can give me some pointers. We’ll talk about it another time.
Gee hom ‘n mis. Jy gaan niks mis nie.
Geniet die football.
3 Sep 2010, 03:47 am
@don’t feed the trolls(svs)-1039:
Wie’t vir jou nat gepie.
Draai om en slaap verder.
3 Sep 2010, 03:47 am
@nama1(nama1)-1033:
De Wet Ras did play for the Boks I think. Maybe one or two games?, but I stand corrected. It’s awhile back……..
3 Sep 2010, 03:48 am
@nama1(nama1)-1034:
oooh nasty……..how ka k were you? I’m guessing you did not even play??
3 Sep 2010, 03:51 am
@nama1(nama1)-1037: the very first NZ team was called the natives (1880s), and from memory it actually had 4 “quota” white players in the squad..
not sure exactly why Nama, but I think because a lot of NZ rugby was weight rather than age restricted it means more players of similar size compete against each other, thus they have to develop those skills because being similar weights not too often would the bash and barge approach work.. IMO anyways..
@ET(ET)-1038: hehe Im not sure church is a good thing, religion is for the weak..
3 Sep 2010, 03:52 am
@nama1(nama1)-1037:
mmmmmmmmmm, a racial thing hey…………where I came from the “white” schools knocked ten times of sh it out of the so -called “coloured” schools but none of the white boys made Craven Week. The “coloured” boys did though!! Makes you think hey??
3 Sep 2010, 03:52 am
@nama1(nama1)-1041:
Damn now I am really going to leave you to work unhindered by selfish me.
I marvel at your attitude and dedication and hardwork and really wish you well in this endeavour. JUST DO IT.
Yes we can talk about that sometime when you are less pressured.
Enjoyed the chat immensely.
3 Sep 2010, 03:53 am
@whatever(whatever)-1043:
Sorry, he never did as far as I can recollect.
1975-76 Gerald Bosch
1977- Robbie Blair
1980- Baas Naas
The ball is in your court.
3 Sep 2010, 03:55 am
@nama1(nama1)-1048:
Take your word for it. He may have been one of those blokes like Gavin Cowley who should have been picked but never was??
3 Sep 2010, 03:57 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-1045:
For me as well as you it seems, but I had to give an example that would appeal to the majority.
Man your guys saved my bacon 2 weeks ago with those 2 late tries. My score stands now at 7/7 fo this TNs.I thought I had a loss there.
3 Sep 2010, 04:00 am
@ET(ET)-1050: yep, which is not to say I am an atheist, just I dont believe in organised religion at all… causes more trouble then its worth..
You and me both with regards the 7 from 7, I am having a real tough time deciding which team to choose this weekend, dont want to break the 100% on Superbru…
whats your tip for this weekend?
3 Sep 2010, 04:04 am
@whatever(whatever)-1046:
Let me tell you something. When we started to play against each other in the early 90′s, the “white” school in Springbok put one over the “coloured” schools on a weekly/monthly basis. Nowadays the “coloured” schools beat them on a regular basis. Just three weeks ago Concordia, a coloured”reserve” town beat Namakwaland Hoer in the regional final.
Guess what. Only two Concordia boys were invited to the Cravenweek trials.
Look, I understand what you are saying. We live in different areas of SA. So, maybe you can also learn from me.
3 Sep 2010, 04:07 am
@nama1(nama1)-1048: @whatever(whatever)-1049:
Played 2 tests both in Durbs. 1st one July ’76 vs. NZ and 2nd(last)one vs. S.America May ’80.
First choices do suffer injuries from time to time and also caps were and are handed free of charge to favoured players.
3 Sep 2010, 04:12 am
cheers guys, work to do… be back a little later..
3 Sep 2010, 04:17 am
@nama1(nama1)-1052:
The sad thing about it however was that both those boys parents couldn’t afford to pay the money to sent them to the trials in Kimberley. So they couldn’t go.
That’s what makes me befok!. Why can’t we have a system where if we identified you as a good player, we’ll help you to get in the system and develop you!!
We have a laaitie who’s playing Kwas u/21 now. He never was in any Craven week team or any other junior team. He was seen by “accident” when the Kwas scout was down here for a tournament. How many talented players are going to waste down here just because we are in the gatkant of SA?
3 Sep 2010, 04:23 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-1051:
Pops, I personally feel the Wallabies earmarked only 1 of the 2 tests.It is a known thing with them even with their S14 teams.
They have never ever won at the daunting,fortress Loftus and last won on the Highveld(JHB and surrounds) 35 yrs. ago. They came out last week just to play a game of rugger and G A Y abandon, got a fright when they led 14-0 and 21-7 but when they went in at H-T in arrears their heads dropped already. Yet in that 2nd half they butchered 2 clear tries less than 5 yds. from the line
This week their prep. is more purposeful and their attitude different and healthier and they say their forwards will take the game to the ‘Boks.
It will be an open game from both sides and in that respect respect if the Aussie forwards do as they say they will I expect them to do enough to win.
Although so easy on paper this game of rugby, anything can and does always happen.
Are you confused enough now.
3 Sep 2010, 04:23 am
@I am a stormer(I am a stormer)-1007:
Hahaha ja Bloem is nie ‘n plek vir sissies nie! Was that Bill Beaumont and his team?
You see, I was there in 1974 as a wee skool laaitie against WJ McBride…all the Boks had to show after 3 tests were a few penalties from G Bosch. At least I only travelled 200km…
3 Sep 2010, 04:25 am
@ET(ET)-1053:
He might have been reserve in those tests but he never played for the Boks, of that I’m 99.999999…% sure.
3 Sep 2010, 04:25 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-1008:
You see Poppa, you still don’t get it…choking will happen next year, you fine this year…
3 Sep 2010, 04:27 am
@ET(ET)-1056:
should be “with G A Y abandon and got…..”
3 Sep 2010, 04:27 am
Right, back to work till later…
3 Sep 2010, 04:29 am
@nama1(nama1)-1052:
It’s the baggage we have to deal with as Saffa’s mate. I no longer have any of those issues here in NZ thankfully…. but I genuinly wish we could get rid of all the “cr ap” once and for all.
3 Sep 2010, 04:32 am
@nama1(nama1)-1058:
He is credited with 2 tests in his stats., but it does not make reference to starting or bench.
3 Sep 2010, 04:37 am
@ET(ET)-1063:
Yeah, I thought he had a game or two way back when. I know he could slot penalties from his own half even with the old heavy leather balls.
3 Sep 2010, 04:38 am
@Slartibartfast(Slartibartfast)-1061:
You mean you can’t multi task??
3 Sep 2010, 04:50 am
@whatever(whatever)-1064:
That oke could put them over from 65m., well into his own half.
3 Sep 2010, 04:53 am
@whatever(whatever)-1062:
As long as you TRY to understand that sometimes people speak from a different experience than what YOU know.
@ET(ET)-1063:
Remember, in those days a team consisted of 17 members. 15 players and two reserves. Reserves couldn’t get on the field unless there was an injury. Can’t remember that he replaced either Gerald Bosch or Naas Botha or any other back line player.
3 Sep 2010, 04:53 am
@ET(ET)-1066:
Robbie Blair was another story. Smoked about a pack a day and played top class rugger. Different culture in those days….
3 Sep 2010, 04:56 am
@nama1(nama1)-1067:
Oh for sure boet…..works both ways though. Although, I have to say my old school now has a great mix of players from all cultures and skin tones and they all get on well, play well and win well (Most of the time anyway) So much so that I would not call it a “white” school anymore, cause it’s not, and good thing too!! It’s a Saffa school
3 Sep 2010, 04:58 am
@ET(ET)-1066:
Don’t stretch it now!!! Those days het ons nog met ‘n varkblaas gespeel. Voor die windbolle van vandag.
3 Sep 2010, 05:15 am
@whatever(whatever)-1069:
Good for you.
Funny thing however is that the “other” boys will always be the “intruders”. Because they have to adapt to the “culture” of the school which may be in existence for X-amount of years. Whether they play sport together for 80/90 minutes or go on a weekend tour together. So in reality there is no transformation of the school’s ethos or whatever. It’s a matter of YOU want to be here, so you adapt to OUR way of doing or go somewhere else.
Which in my view is not TRANSFORMATION but ASSIMILATION.
That’s where we go wrong, I think.
3 Sep 2010, 05:23 am
@nama1(nama1)-1067: @nama1(nama1)-1070:
Dis nie ek nie maar espnscrum wat daai dinge se van De Wet.
3 Sep 2010, 05:29 am
@nama1(nama1)-1071:
Oh, I think it changes to a certain degree. Some of the ‘old” traditions still remain and the core principles still remain, but the “culture” changes.
I think the main thing is choice. You have the choice to go to the school or not as it may be………you choose the school because of it’s reputation for good results in the classroom, good results on the sporting fields (whatever they may be), maybe disipline? etc etc.
I would not send my kid to a Mulsim school to try and change it to Christianity?? I would send my kid to a school that best fits my desired outcomes? Does it have to be transformation? I Think not!
3 Sep 2010, 05:34 am
@ET(ET)-1056: I agree, I think they would have targeted the second test as they would have acclimatised to the conditions with the extra week in SA.
and yes, I am even more perplexed as to which team to pick, thanks for clearing that up
3 Sep 2010, 05:37 am
@Slartibartfast(Slartibartfast)-1059: I get it entirely, it seems many SA supporters, like yourself, are hoping the ABs choke because you have no confidence in your team… thats fine, I can understand it completely… just going to be some very heartbroken people around here if the ABs DONT choke… and from all looks this year, it seems they are working on being able to play to different styles and adapt to the opposition… case in point both the last game against the wombles (defense won the game) and the FNB game, where attack won it for them..
must be hard on the sanity hoping other teams fail so yours can do well..
3 Sep 2010, 05:44 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-1074:
Which all would suggest to me you were leaning towards the ‘Boks.
I think I am leaning towards the Wallabies but I have about 36 hrs. to change my mind.
Not too convincing am I now?
Let’s just say it should by all accounts be a close encounter.
Not much between all 3 teams though. Its what’s in the head on the day that turns it one way or the other.
3 Sep 2010, 05:46 am
@whatever(whatever)-1073: All the reason of why you now reside in the beautiful isles of the Long White Cloud.
3 Sep 2010, 05:47 am
@whatever(whatever)-1073:
“I would not send my kid to a Mulsim school to try and change it to Christianity??”
Not a good example. It shows that you don’t understand what I’m trying to convey to you. Let’s leave it there.
Maybe another time we can take this discussion further.
Enjoy your day.
3 Sep 2010, 05:48 am
@ET(ET)-1076: hehe yeah, home town advantage and the altitude factor to me sway it slightly in SA’s favour, as well as the confidence gained from last weekends come from behind win..
agree with you that it is which team turns up on the day.. I think Moore and McCalman (sp?) actually will add a bit to the Wobblies as a whole.. I belive there will be less then 10 points in the outcome..
the biggest concern is Barnes reffing lol
3 Sep 2010, 05:48 am
Let us all be conscionable of the plight of South Africa. We are all too quick to offer our opinions on something we truly cannot fully understand. Comprehending the difficulty of living the dream is all too patronizing from afar.
3 Sep 2010, 05:49 am
@RugbyRulz(RugbyRulz)-1077: afternoon rulz. your thoughts on the game this weekend?
3 Sep 2010, 05:49 am
@nama1(nama1)-1078:
yeah, another time maybe. It was a crude example of why transformation for transformation sake is not always a good thing…
3 Sep 2010, 05:51 am
@whatever(whatever)-1049:
In a game at the Free State stadium, Naas was literally pulled off the field with a few minutes remaining on the clock to give De Wet his colours. He did not want to leave the field but the assistant pulled him on his jersey to the sideline, I think he also whispered in his ear that if he does not go off the Boere in the crowd may just kill him!
A few years later Jannie Els showed him how serious the threat was…
You know, speaking of a big boot I don’t think I have ever seen a guy kick the ball as far as Ras, not even Frans Steyn. I remember watching a FS game where he got the ball halfway into his own 22, he kicked it and it landed on the athletic track in line with the opposition goal line! I would think it travelled at least 85m through the air…
3 Sep 2010, 05:53 am
@whatever(whatever)-1065:
Aish, sitting at a client! Not a good look if they catch you…
3 Sep 2010, 05:53 am
@Slartibartfast(Slartibartfast)-1083: how would he compare to the boot (aka Don Clarke?)
3 Sep 2010, 05:57 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-1081: Afternoon Pops. I really don’t know what will happen this weekend, we are up and down like the weather. Oddly I am not perturbed by our form, considering our games this year. Deans is pushing players far beyond what I thought them capable. So anything is possible.
Honestly did you think the Faingai twins would have started for Australia this year?
3 Sep 2010, 06:00 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-1075:
Poppa, I am not in the mood for more of the same from you today. If you missed the smiley in the post it is really not my problem. I am hoping for nothing more than this workday to finish and the weekend to start, I have thought very little about next year…
3 Sep 2010, 06:00 am
@whatever(whatever)-1068:
Serge Blanco was blykbaar dik boom gerook die dag toe hy die drie “from the end of the earth” teen NZ begin.
Meeste van die tyd nie geweet wat om hom aangaan as hy op die rugbyveld opdraf nie.
Seker van die Vlaktes gewees, oorspronklik.
3 Sep 2010, 06:01 am
@RugbyRulz(RugbyRulz)-1086: I think the fact you have some 1st choice players out it could just be a blessing in disguise… at least youve had the opportunity to assess fringe players now, rather then at the tourny next year..
I do believe he is buildiong a solid foundation, and being such a young team they will improve immeasurably as time goes on..
To be honest no, didnt think either would get a chance… mind you, I never thought Stanley would get an opportunity for NZ either..
3 Sep 2010, 06:02 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-1085:
Never saw the Don Poppa but like some mentioned above he was well known for slotting them from 65m with the old and heavy leather ball.
3 Sep 2010, 06:03 am
@Slartibartfast(Slartibartfast)-1087: fair enough, but think of that next time you throw out the cliched choking tag… it really does get tiresome…
3 Sep 2010, 06:03 am
@Slartibartfast(Slartibartfast)-1090: I dint realise the Don moved to SA and lived and coached there… just read it on wiki…
3 Sep 2010, 06:10 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-1091:
I will leave it there…
@poppa69(poppa69)-1092:
He had very close ties with SA, I think the link was Dok Craven who had a very special relationship with the Kiwis.
3 Sep 2010, 06:15 am
1052. nama1(nama1) sorry but is not a colour thing, but just the same, private schools hold on sport, the eletist mentality.
There have plenty of players who have not played for our big schools, who have been better than players selected, but did not even go to trials cos the of the **** protectionist eletist mentality of the rich.
My nephew went to school trails but the privte schools boys got to run on while he and a few others from the vlaktes kept the bench warm without even getting on the field.
Bloody shame really!
This issue is big in England too with the Eaton Old Boys club thingy.
Chili gets the nod cos he went to a private school ahead of players who are better than him.
Well done to Concordia. Nice place, too hot, but very beautiful in the spring. Nice never visited the big mineral deposit nearby.
3 Sep 2010, 06:17 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-1092:
He’s been here since way back (late 70′s or early 80′s) I think.
Will never forget his “come back” after James Dalton was kicked out of the ’95 WC. He was a guest analyst on Supersport. The presenter said something like,”Why was Dalton suspended. All he was trying to do was break up a fight” (the match between SA and Canada, I think). To which The Don responded,
” I can accept that he was going there to stop the fight. But how do you stop a fight with a clenched fist.”
The presenter had no answer to that.
3 Sep 2010, 06:19 am
@Slartibartfast(Slartibartfast)-1093: yep, Doc craven was very well respected in NZ…
It says the Don actually coached at a school in Jo’burg… seems a few kiwis have migrated to the republic after playing against them..
3 Sep 2010, 06:22 am
@nama1(nama1)-1095: hehehe would love to have seen the look on the presenters face…
3 Sep 2010, 06:27 am
@KevinRack(KevinRack)-1094:
Is jy dronk? Kom jy nou vannie club af??
Eaton Old Boys Club?
“Nice never visited the big mineral deposit nearby.”
What you talking about?
Here’s NO private, ELITIST schools down here. Maybe where you live. Not here.
Gaan slaap, boet. :lol, of staan op en gaan werk toe.
3 Sep 2010, 06:34 am
@nama1(nama1)-1088:
3 Sep 2010, 06:34 am
@nama1(nama1)-1098: Slaap julle nie
3 Sep 2010, 06:38 am
Nama
I was at the test, in fact directly behind the touch down for the “try from the end of the earth”. Will never forget it.
3 Sep 2010, 06:41 am
Nama: Orbicular diorite!
I am work a long way from home. A great tip for a good braai on the Oliphants: The Bushmans cave near Lutzville.
3 Sep 2010, 06:42 am
@JL1(JL1)-1100:
My skoolvriend het altyd gese, ‘slaap is die suster van die dood.’
Vandag is hy ‘n dominee.
Wys jou net, ne.
3 Sep 2010, 06:49 am
/#commentsk(KevinRack)-1102:
My cousin works in Lutzville for Namaqua Sands. He in fact invited me to visit him this weekend but I have a class to attend on Saturday.
I’ll keep it in mind next time I visit him. Thanks.
3 Sep 2010, 06:50 am
@nama1(nama1)-1104:
Let me rather say, he stays in Lutzville.
3 Sep 2010, 06:57 am
1103. nama1(nama1) and if you see me with a dop in my hand run and call the police, cos its ugly.
It must be stunning now in your area with all the floewrs out.
3 Sep 2010, 06:58 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-1101:
I was watching it in the early hours of the morning. It was a great try.
2-0 in France’s favour, that series. Must’ve hurt you boys. First home series lost since the Boks in 1935/6?
3 Sep 2010, 07:06 am
@KevinRack(KevinRack)-1106:
Not really boet.
Was TOOOO hot in the summer and TOOOO much frost May/June.
Flowers are only starting to come up now in my part of the world.
3 Sep 2010, 07:15 am
@nama1(nama1)-1107: it was a 1-0 series win, one test was drawn… only a 2 test series… it was a phenomenal try…
think the Lions in 71 would have been the last lost series before that one..
3 Sep 2010, 08:26 am
@JL1(JL1)-954: your amateur attempts at analysing me are so very far off the mark.
The day i ever see a compliment about me coming from the likes of you, Charo, the unmentionable filth whose name will never pass my lips or elicit a response from me again [ squirrel killer ]….that is the day i have sold my soul and come up short.
I despise you and all you stand for…..my heart bleeds for you misguided supremists…..you sods are so farked up i actually cringe at the image you and your type project of Saffas.
So if you honestly believe it irks me that i get slandered and attacked by your little pack of yapping poodles….the exact opposite is true.It means i have retained the moral high ground.
The lions lot is that they get barked at by little wild dogs, jackals and cowardly hyenas…..
Nothing a couple of lions cannot handle….hey Mr Jackal??
3 Sep 2010, 08:36 am
@nama1(nama1)-983:
Hi Nama
Sorry, I only saw your post this morning !!
What make of clubs ? Does the set contain irons only ?, driver , 3 wood, utility club, putter ??
With bag ??
3 Sep 2010, 09:10 am
@nama1(nama1)-970:
Exactly – Hole in 1.
3 Sep 2010, 09:11 am
@grant10(grant10)-1110: I love wild dogs, they way they hunt. Singling out prey and stalking it for kilometres on end, untill the poor animals collapses in an exhausted state as they rip out chunks of meat.
3 Sep 2010, 09:15 am
@grant10(grant10)-1110:
Haha! Grant 10, a chest thumping lion? Boggles the mind.
You are pathetic and a major contributor to the dim view that people have of SAFFAS. Thankfully, you do not represent South Africans and hopefully you do not represent the DA!
Rangerman sums you up perfectly – every time.
3 Sep 2010, 09:30 am
Squirrel killer! That is really funny.
3 Sep 2010, 09:45 am
@grant10(grant10)-1110:
get in there fella ! Hyenas, the lot of em.
3 Sep 2010, 09:46 am
@capeflats(capeflats)-20: this is probably by far the most accurate post i have ever read on this site, great stuff man, keo and co really need to get their act together i find myself not wanting to visit this site anymore, it has been reduced from a rugby site to a place of entertainment, and it really resembles a circus, spot on…!!!!
it is good entertaining though, and i will be back for more, but certainly not from a rugby purist point of view.
more like the “son” i would say. you know you are reading **** but the **** stinks so much and it gives such a great laugh that you just come back for more, almost like looking at a car accident scene( except the laughing of course), you dont want to look but you find youself looking against all you logical inhibitions…keo you are better than boswill wilky my friend keep up the good work and you might actually upstage Pdiv himself. seems like pdiv is your hero, my man
as for the wc we ( the boks) will retain it and we will all see keo sing pdiv’s praises as if he never doubted the man at all, mark my words, this site will stay true to its nature and do exactly that.. bring it on guys you give us a reason to come and listen to you, which probably means you are a success as that i suppose is your objective…!!!!
3 Sep 2010, 09:47 am
yap …yap…
bark …bark…
only the little wild dogs….
not even a snivelling hyena….
zzzzzzzzz
not even worth the lions response.
3 Sep 2010, 09:49 am
we will never win it with PDV … farking clown. Maak alles BLOU BUL en kry heyneke !!!
3 Sep 2010, 09:51 am
@Inevitable(Inevitable)-1114:
Given that I am 1 of the ‘people’ and you are not, then perhaps Im better qualified to speak on ‘our’ behalf.
Youre talking BS, whereas G10 is right on the money – neander-numbskulls like JL1 and R’tw*t and Boy George are exactly the type who give Safas their bad name, G10 looks like the standardbearer of sanity and morality compared.
3 Sep 2010, 09:59 am
@Black Panther(Black Panther)-1120: the pack of hyenas are nothing but schoolyard bullies…..i know the type….all mouth but no trousers…..
Big swaggering and smug in there loud abrasive pack…..
Its the definition of the coward…..and the follower types….
I wonder if they actually understand or even realise just how farked up they actually are. Not an independent thought or point of view between the lot of them…a bunch of backslapping sheep ….
and they think i care about what they think about me?
Delusional another one of there ailments!
Time for me to do some business.
Hace a good day BP…
outta here
3 Sep 2010, 10:00 am
hace is have
3 Sep 2010, 10:02 am
grant10 is the PDV of keo.co.za … a clown
3 Sep 2010, 10:05 am
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!
Akunamatada!
3 Sep 2010, 10:07 am
@I_support_BEES(suffer_guy)-1123:
actually, it was Krusty who said ‘we support Bees’ so it looks like the cream pie is on you, Bozo.
3 Sep 2010, 11:37 am
@grant10(grant10)-1121:
You care a lot.
That’s why you are frothing at the mouth.
3 Sep 2010, 11:39 am
@gunther(gunther)-1124:
3 Sep 2010, 11:50 am
@Black Panther(Black Panther)-1120:
I said he was a major contributor…
You would never find an Aussie or Kiwi slagging off their national captain like he does.If it did happen, the guy would be sorted in double quick time.
I am surprised that he hasn’t had his big trap zipped yet. Amazing!
3 Sep 2010, 14:32 pm
@Inevitable(Inevitable)-1128: you welcome to come try…..the fact that you would like opinions silened through ‘me being shut up ‘ sounds exactly ;like your type would try and do.
But bring your pack with you…..by yourself i have very little doubt you may come up a little short hyena.
3 Sep 2010, 16:34 pm
554″>gunther(gunther)-1124: LOL, fark some chaps have a good dose of stoopid not to notice this one liner.
Classic!! with a capital C…
gunther the line king…
3 Sep 2010, 16:43 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-1130: nah
saw it
very funny
spilt my tea.
3 Sep 2010, 16:57 pm
@grant10(grant10)-1129:
Opinions are welcome. Slagging off the national captain while hiding behind your nic is not an opinion, it’s just cowardly.
But then we all know how brave you are on paper. No doubt you will get your chance to prove yoursef. Rather sooner than later, I expect.
3 Sep 2010, 17:10 pm
@Inevitable(Inevitable)-1132: ag hyena…
you are boring me….
lets just scroll on by…its far easier. You not going to stop me expressing my opinions. So ignore them….its simple really. I certainly ignore loads of bloggers i find childish or devoid of intellect or real opinion…
In fact i cant remember engaginng with you in the past? So lets leave it like that….i am 47 years old….not 12….so this really is all just plain stupid and extremely childish imo.
Go find someone else to play with….i am not in your circle….go run off and find a fellow back slapper
3 Sep 2010, 17:16 pm
@grant10(grant10)-1133:
“i am 47 years old….not 12″
Well blow me down! You should certainly not be name calling at your age, leave that to the 12 year olds. If you apologise to John Smit I will forgive you.
3 Sep 2010, 17:30 pm
@grant10(grant10)-1131: yeah, flipping funny, grunter’s kickslaps – just one line achieving pages of sledging…
3 Sep 2010, 17:37 pm
@Inevitable(Inevitable)-1134: no mate.
When Plod apologises for having a go at LW i will consider him a better person…..
So till then we at loggerheads……so lets make this my last post to you .
Pity….seems you could be okay if you choose your own path and not run with the pack…
outta here
3 Sep 2010, 17:38 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-1135: the bugger almost cost me my keyboard….
He is a master of the 1 line.
cheers now
3 Sep 2010, 17:41 pm
Funniest thing I heard today was a term for Australians – DidgeryDouchbags LOL I love it
3 Sep 2010, 17:42 pm
@grant10(grant10)-1137: cheers, good weekend and may barneys Boks prove you wrong…. again
3 Sep 2010, 17:44 pm
@goyougoodthing2(goyougoodthing2)-1138:
BTW – Who’s farking idea was the pink? good idea but highly compromising on Keo…
3 Sep 2010, 17:45 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-1140: Pink???
3 Sep 2010, 17:46 pm
@goyougoodthing2(goyougoodthing2)-1141: sharks in pink tomorrow and against cheetahs…
3 Sep 2010, 17:48 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-1142: Oh it’s for cancer. Odd considering we are not French.
3 Sep 2010, 17:48 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-1142: for a charity…
3 Sep 2010, 17:48 pm
Halftime 17 – 9 to Cheetahs
3 Sep 2010, 17:49 pm
@goyougoodthing2(goyougoodthing2)-1143: yeah, a bit of sharks a la stade – all thats missing is the queen of hearts…
3 Sep 2010, 17:50 pm
@goyougoodthing2(goyougoodthing2)-1145: what stream?
3 Sep 2010, 17:52 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-1147: Supersport, live stream online. First ever only-internet based live stream. Owen is commentating, but no graphics, some poppie keeps showing the score on cardboard, tres funny
3 Sep 2010, 17:53 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-1146: Prinsloo?
3 Sep 2010, 17:57 pm
@goyougoodthing2(goyougoodthing2)-1149: hehehehehehe, very true…
3 Sep 2010, 17:58 pm
Nokwe and Johnson scored tries for Cheetahs
3 Sep 2010, 17:59 pm
@goyougoodthing2(goyougoodthing2)-1148: thanks, doesn’t help me though. will have to wait for the Lions / WP game – could be good
3 Sep 2010, 18:00 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-1152: the poppie must be bloody funny though…
3 Sep 2010, 18:01 pm
20 – 9 . Penalty. Poppie is hysterical
3 Sep 2010, 18:05 pm
another penalty to Cheetahs…. and…
23 – 9
3 Sep 2010, 18:06 pm
cheers, outtahere, till tomorrow
3 Sep 2010, 18:07 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-1156: cheers
3 Sep 2010, 18:15 pm
@grant10(grant10)-1136:
Luke Watson!!!
Is he your son?
3 Sep 2010, 19:05 pm
@Slartibartfast(Slartibartfast)-1057:
Yeah, Bill Beaumont’s side.
The guy we were staying with landed in hospital – challenged a guy R10 to tackle him – we were all stupid once.
Well, Rob Louw was in the casualty as well. So we spent the next hour talking to him, p issed as f arts of course and left our mate alone to the nurses.
3 Sep 2010, 19:07 pm
@grant10(grant10)-1136:
What John said, he said in his name, openly to the public, without fear or favour.
The comparison between yourself and the Springbok captain, a man who has proved his courage and leadership too many times to mention, is quite ludicrous.
You know very well that your excuse to not apologise is fake. You may have been angry but not enough to express yourself in the manner you did. You probably overreacted to repeated Bok defeats.
John Smit is gentleman. Do the right thing Grant, be a man and apologise.
3 Sep 2010, 23:05 pm
@Inevitable(Inevitable)-1128:
Actually G10 and I discussed, and agreed, over 12mths ago that Smit – whilst a Champion – was near the end of his tether physically and should have chosen the TriN in Hamilton as a GREAT time to hang up his boots. Which it was. It was also good for the Boks, would give them 2 years under a new leader prior to the RWC. And Smit preserves and cements his legacy as 1 of the Legends of the game. Which it would.
But
instead.
He chose to play on. And G10 is hardly the only 1 criticising Smits form this season, and the results have turned to custard since Hamilton; 2 losses on EOYT (incl 3 consecutive to Irel), 0-3 to ABs and 1-1 with Aus.
So G10 was right and he was also glowing about Smit at the time. But, then, youre allowed nay encouraged to disagree around here. Thats why we blog.
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