Boks latest – Aussie bashers front Boks
25 Nov 2010
Keo.co.za brings you the latest from the Springboks’ end-of-year tour.
Aussie bashers front Boks – Martin Johnson has picked the same starting side that beat Australia for Saturday’s Test against the Springboks.
Four changes are made to the England side that struggled past Samoa, with Lewis Moody returning to captain the team. South African-born Hendre Fourie will, however, get his opportunity from the bench.
England - 15 Ben Foden; 14 Chris Ashton, 13 Mike Tindall, 12 Shontayne Hape, 11 Mark Cueto; 10 Toby Flood, 9 Ben Youngs; 8 Nick Easter, 7 Lewis Moody (c), 6 Tom Croft, 5 Tom Palmer, 4 Courtney Lawes, 3 Dan Coles, 2 Dylan Hartley, 1 Andrew Sheridan.
Subs: 16 Steve Thompson, 17 David Wilson, 18 Simon Shaw, 19 Hendre Fourie, 20 Danny Care, 21 Charlie Hodgson, 22 Matt Banahan.
Coaches aware of looming axe – Bok backline mentor Dick Muir has admitted that the management team could get the chop if South Africa produces another shocking showing this Saturday. The Boks lost to Scotland last week, a defeat that comes just two months after their worst ever Tri-Nations campaign.
‘From a coaching perspective you enter this industry knowing that most coaches end up getting fired,’ Muir said. ‘Our public back home epitomise what it is about. They expect you to come over here and get the win and if you don’t get the result then there are going to be heads that are going to roll.
‘We have been in this situation before and South Africa is a proud nation that wants results.’
Muir added that coaches are less likely to survive in South Africa than in a country like England.
‘In South Africa it is probably a bit more volatile than it is here. ‘[In that environment] you have to believe in yourself, you have got to believe in your management team and your bosses. You have got to have a shared vision and hang in there in the tough times.’
‘Attitude was lacking’ – Springbok assistant coach Gary Gold lamented the lack of intensity and desire to win in South Africa’s recent loss to Scotland.
‘It was one of my worst experiences in rugby,’ Gold said. ‘It was just so disappointing to see what we had worked so hard towards just get thrown away like that. We had worked so hard in the previous two Test matches.
‘I am not saying we played well in those games, because we didn’t, but the determination was there and the attitude was there. We know it wasn’t an acceptable performance.’
Gold also admitted that poor execution let the side down in Edinburgh, and that everybody needs to take responsibility for the defeat.
‘We all need to put our hands up now and take ownership, both the coaching staff and the players. We know we let the country down, so it just means we are going to have to make up for it by winning on Saturday.’
Spies covets England scalp – Bok No 8 Pierre Spies knows a win on Saturday won’t compensate for missing out on a Grand Slam, but it could be important for the team’s confidence.
‘We would still like to finish the year on a strong note and I suppose if we win our last match it will give us something positive to take in next season,’ he said. ‘I don’t think a win over England will balance the books as far as our critics are concerned, but it will at least mean a lot to the players from a confidence viewpoint.
‘We like playing against England and we like beating them. They are a good team, a tough team to beat, and when we win against them it means a lot. Any game against England at Twickenham is a big one. So in a way it is a good thing that we get a chance this week to make up for last week’s poor performance against Scotland.’
Spies added that the recent loss to Scotland does not bode badly for the coming World Cup.
‘If we get all our top players back next year and we get back our form and win the World Cup then it won’t matter so much,’ he said.
234 Comments
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25 Nov 2010, 21:25 pm
@ET(ET) :
Nope i did not i would love to watch some of the Ashes
25 Nov 2010, 21:27 pm
@CoachPete(CoachPete) :
If you want to watch on TV then need cable station FoxSoccerPlus
The cricket again in full now is :
http://www.allcric.com
You can watch the Ashes at 3pm your time today(2nd day’s play live).
25 Nov 2010, 21:27 pm
@ET(ET) :
Yeah got it thanks Is it streemed free?
What does the wX3 do?
25 Nov 2010, 21:28 pm
@CoachPete(CoachPete) :
Gave it to you earlier above but see my #202 now.
25 Nov 2010, 21:30 pm
@ET(ET) :
Ok thanks I got both sites How do you get rid of the ad blocking the picture ?
25 Nov 2010, 21:31 pm
@ET(ET) :
I have Fox soccer plus
No bok rugby on mine
25 Nov 2010, 21:33 pm
@CoachPete(CoachPete) :
@203
My posts # 197(rugby) and #202(cricket) have the full addresses but here the repeat
http://www.vipstand.net ……….for rugby
and
http://www.allcric.com ………….for the cricket
Just remember these two and forget everything else.
25 Nov 2010, 21:33 pm
Ok found the close box
Thanks
25 Nov 2010, 21:34 pm
@ Sharkie, what about Deysel, do you think he will ever get a chance on the Bok squad now with us having an abundance of forwards, i think he knows this last injury might just have st*ffed up everything for him no matter how well he plays.
25 Nov 2010, 21:34 pm
@ET(ET) :
Yeah thanks a lot great
Now I will never disagree with you
25 Nov 2010, 21:34 pm
@CoachPete(CoachPete) :
Probably deliberately not giving the eoyt and want you to pay for the payperview option,the cheats.
25 Nov 2010, 21:35 pm
@ET(ET) :
Yes true.
25 Nov 2010, 21:35 pm
@CoachPete(CoachPete) :
How boring would life be if we always agreed?
25 Nov 2010, 21:39 pm
@ET(ET) :
Yeah I was kidding I will always have strong opinions :0
But we do agree about Spies
25 Nov 2010, 21:39 pm
@ET(ET) : I even copied and pasted it to the little notes thing in my opera browser, i know i cant use it cos of weak connection but you never know when it will come in handy, i am a hoarder
25 Nov 2010, 21:40 pm
Ok cheers ET, Soda, Shark, and others
25 Nov 2010, 21:40 pm
Jees watched boots and all …. PDV sucks…… Nothing to do with racialism….. And poor Pierre Spies was the player rep who couldn’t sat to much….. The interview with PDV was an embarrasment and my Bok supporter friends deserve better…. What do we have to do to get this guy (pdv) back doing something else……. I actually can’t believe that PDV doesn’t see his interview and realise what an *** he is… pleaase Piet fall on your sword please….
25 Nov 2010, 21:42 pm
@CoachPete(CoachPete) :
Man I missed my world of cricket for more than ten years and in the last month have been living on the allcric site and even now chatting to you okes and seeing and hearing the highlights of the 1st days play of 1st Ashes game.
Try it and run your problems through me. There are 10 channels on offer. Always try @1 first and then others.I normally go 1 to 2 to 4 to 5 to 7 to 10 etc. to get what I want.
This minute channel one has an old Aus. vs. Bangladesh.
25 Nov 2010, 21:45 pm
@ET(ET) :
Yeah sounds great. Ex player (left arm spinner) and huge fan but nothing here in USA as you know
My wife is not too happy.
25 Nov 2010, 21:45 pm
@Treehugger(Treehugger) :
@215
Good for you.
From what you wrote earlier seems to me, to most, you would be more fun than the sister of the yuppie(use this word a lot) couple. Keep close to nature and your nature.
25 Nov 2010, 21:45 pm
@Jester(Jester) : What did he he do or say, havent watch Boot and all since forever.
25 Nov 2010, 21:46 pm
@ET(ET) :
Yeah thanks for offer to help with problems, but I do have high speed so all looks good
25 Nov 2010, 21:46 pm
@CoachPete(CoachPete) :
@219
That’s why I know you would appreciate all of that.
25 Nov 2010, 21:48 pm
@ET(ET) :
Thanks cheers enjoy the Turkey
25 Nov 2010, 21:51 pm
@CoachPete(CoachPete) :
@205
They usually close after 20 -30 secs. Once they go immediately hit full screen and you will not have the problem in full screen.
25 Nov 2010, 21:56 pm
@ET(ET) :
Or click on the close option.
26 Nov 2010, 00:29 am
So Hendre reckons the blood will flow. Surely a professional sportsman should be thinking more carefully with his words since Pdiddy kops **** for his comments.
Hope the coaching staff have a chat in the refs ear because after seeing the dirty stuff in the Abs game I think there is going to be fighting.
Dam Fox is not showing the game!
26 Nov 2010, 00:49 am
Hendre is being pathetic. Hope our forwards grind him into the ground.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qh9uklt8gx0&feature=player_embedded
Now tell me who taught New Zealand how to play like they are today?
What the hell has happened to Bok rugby? We were amazing.
26 Nov 2010, 01:27 am
Thank-you slumtown good video.
You are right what has hapended. Wings are not only for flying.
26 Nov 2010, 03:26 am
As an Englishman i am looking foward to this game.
Even though England have played well there are better players in the Aviva premireship who have not been picked and could make England even better.
Martin johnson has taken alot of stick but since the France game and sydney England seemed to have changed quite incredibly.
But For me the players the boks need to watch out for is Ben youngs.
Youngs for me will be the best scrum half in the world soon. His pace is unreal. We havent seen his deadly breaks but you give this kid an inch and he will take it, one of the quickest players i have seen. His tactical kicking is superb.
Ben foden every single media outlet, pundit, fan have been calling for this guy for nearly a year to be given a chance and he was given that chance against france in the last six nations game
Hes really is adapting to international rugby well. Foden really is a deadly runner. Hes like jason robinson he can break that first tackle than hes off. Brilliant accleration and he really is exciting to watch.
Chris ashton an ex rugby league player. Hes a try poacher the kid scores tries for fun. Hes a natural at it. Hes one of the most instinctive wingers in the world. He always comes off his wing looking for the ball. Makes alot of breaks and has those great off loads from half breaks as well as blistering pace.
Tony flood is a player who is slowly finding his feet. Hes a quality playmaker, hes got vision, makes breaks, great offloader and now hes starting to be a reliable goal kicker. Hes might not be the quickest but hes strong (6ft3), has a good defence and good leader now as well
26 Nov 2010, 03:31 am
BTW Hendre fourie has been impressive. Alot of ppl werent happy with this ppl thought we should go with younger guys like andy saull, tom wood, tom rees
Hes 6ft stocky, powerful ball carrier. Against samoa his debut he was quite impressive. Made alot of turnovers, good support play, very strong, good defence.
Neil back has said he should be England number 7 ahead of lewis moody.
Neil back and lewis moody played with each other for leciester tigers so it was quite a statment to make.
Fourie looks international class even when he came n against new zealand
26 Nov 2010, 03:45 am
In the fowards intresting to see young dan cole against the beast.
Dan cole has been very impressive for someone so young.
Coutney lawes in the 2nd row has really impressed 21 has no fear, powerful despite his slim frame, great tackler, good ball carrier, atheltic.
Hes loves a physical challenge.
Tom croft is the brains of the line out very good, hes good at the break down, tackles well.
His support play is improving and hes got that lighting pace he can run 10.7 in 100m which is always a threat
26 Nov 2010, 04:48 am
@john123(john123) : Steady on John, Tom Croft is very fast, but he’s not 10.7 over the 100m fast. Youngs has made a big difference to the England backline, they are finally starting to get quickball from the scrum half.
26 Nov 2010, 05:37 am
The Ashes is available to download as highlights or the full day’s play at the box
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