Sharks’ flyhalf focus a boon for Boks
19 Jan 2012
JON CARDINELLI writes the Springboks will reap the benefits of the Sharks’ decision to back Pat Lambie in the all-important flyhalf position.
While the speculation around the Bok coach position continues to escalate to hysterical proportions, keo.co.za’s information is that the position has been confirmed for some time. Gert Smal will be announced as Peter de Villiers’s successor next Friday, and among the many tasks he will be entrusted with will be the decision of who to select at flyhalf for the three-Test series against England in June.
Smal will finish his stint with the Ireland national side in early March, and will then turn his focus to Super Rugby and the composition of the Bok side. He will possess a good understanding of what has worked for South Africa in the past, and also what has not. There are many candidates both experienced and unestablished that will be pushing for that No 10 jersey this season, but what should please the Bok coach is that one of the strongest candidates will concentrate on one position for the majority of Super Rugby tournament.
Lambie has been used in several positions for both the Sharks and Boks. He started his career in Durban as a fullback in 2010 before shifting to centre and later flyhalf. It was in the latter position where he made the most impact, leading the Sharks to a resounding victory over Western Province in the 2010 Currie Cup final.
De Villiers experimented with Lambie as a flyhalf at international level, but was always going to favour one of Morne Steyn or Butch James for the 2011 World Cup. Steyn eventually got the nod despite his limitations on attack and defence, as De Villiers felt that a goal-kicking boot would be decisive. But the quarter-final was won by Australia thanks in large part to their brilliant defence. The All Blacks would later win the title in a similar manner, and the missed goal-kicks in that final against France didn’t end up costing them the cup.
That’s not to say that goal-kicking won’t be important going forward or that indeed Lambie doesn’t have the ability or the mettle to be a success. He showed during the early stages of the 2011 Super Rugby tournament just how much he’s progressed in this department. Given more opportunities, he will continue to develop and that can only benefit the Boks.
With Freddie Michalak targeting a move back to France in the near future, the Sharks have finally decided to hand Lambie the ultimate responsibility. Aside from goal-kicking, he will be tasked with organising the Sharks’ backs and controlling the game. His performance in the coming Super Rugby competition will be important in that it will show Smal and the Bok selectors whether he can be a sustained force in the position.
There will be other candidates for Smal to consider. Elton Jantjies will have plenty to prove after a dismal start to Super Rugby in 2011. He may have shone in the subsequent Currie Cup, but it is in the southern hemisphere’s premier regional tournament where potential internationals are measured.
After a successful Currie Cup, Lions coach John Mitchell will back Jantjies in that flyhalf role and this will allow him the platform to impress the Bok coach. Similarly, Lambie will now be granted an extended run at No 10.
Steyn is set to spearhead a new-look Bulls backline. His goal- and tactical-kicking remains among the best on the planet, but if he cannot improve his defence and attack then he has no place in the Bok side of 2012. It won’t be easy considering the Bulls have lost a whole host of established forwards, and Steyn has in the past battled to impose himself when his pack is going backward.
At this stage Lambie would appear to be the best option, but the coach is unlikely to make his decision until we are well into the Super Rugby competition. The important thing at this point is that Lambie will be given an extended opportunity, as will Jantjies and several others, to prove himself.
381 Comments
19 Jan 2012, 09:55 am
Like Lambs to the slaughter Dragon
19 Jan 2012, 09:56 am
Actually i don’t really believe that. Who knows, I prefer him at 15 and Elton at 10 for our longer term prospects but I’m happy to see him play where he wants.
19 Jan 2012, 10:01 am
Am not crazy about him at flyhalf, prefer fullback for now, but there isnt really anyone better
19 Jan 2012, 10:03 am
It’ll be interesting to see how Morne plays outside of Hougaard. It’s a totally different dynamic to the one with FdP calling the shots from 9. I reckon Heyneke will give Morne a lot more freedom than he had with FdP.
19 Jan 2012, 10:06 am
This is really good news… (although not entirely new)…
and I sincerely applaud plumtree for taking this decision… i believe lambie will excel at flyhalf if given a decent run and allowed to play his natural game…
good stuff all round…
19 Jan 2012, 10:07 am
@stormersboy-2: Taute is the long-term 15.
19 Jan 2012, 10:08 am
Where do these guys get there info about the Bok coach. I though Smal was committed to the Ireland team til 2013
19 Jan 2012, 10:09 am
He is one or two yards too slow to be a full back.
Rather have an out and out 15 play for the Boks like Taute.
Very glad Plum has chosen him at 10. He can now settle down and focus on this position only.
19 Jan 2012, 10:11 am
@patch-7:
Looking at the rumours about PdV and the timing, it all points to Smal.
19 Jan 2012, 10:13 am
@patch-7: It probably is Smal, but you’re quite right in questioning their sources. They’ve passed off some pretty crazy conspiracy theories as reliably informed fact in the past.
19 Jan 2012, 10:15 am
i suppose having them fight it out for the flyhalf position can only be good for the boks but expect heartbreak and dissapointment in some quarters.
there’s got to be losers for there to be winners and right now i’d have elton as understudy to morne with goosen pecking at the fringes.
19 Jan 2012, 10:19 am
can’t wait to see how morne gets the bulls backline going if he is still going to stand deep in the pocket. looking at how ireland have played with predominantly kickcking 10s in sexo and o’gara, i don’t know if smal will advocate a flat, gainline-attacking pivot.
i guess we have to wait & see.
19 Jan 2012, 10:21 am
@>^..^< katman-10:
I reckon one of the provincial presidents is bound to talk in exchange for a free beer.
19 Jan 2012, 10:24 am
@Transformation-12:
Yeah, but look at that Irish backline he’s got to play with outside his 10.
19 Jan 2012, 10:24 am
looking forward to some roast lambie at the bullpen in a couple of weeks time.
with mint sauce.
nom nom nom.
19 Jan 2012, 10:27 am
The flyhalf battle is going to be interesting this year. Morne, Lambie, Elton, Goosen, Grant.
19 Jan 2012, 10:28 am
@David-14: 15 Rob Kearney, 14 Tommy Bowe, 13 Brian O’Driscoll (c), 12 Paddy Wallace, 11 Keith Earls, 10 Jonathan Sexton, 9 Tomas O’Leary,
19 Jan 2012, 10:31 am
he is a really nice boy though.
just humble and decent through and through.
great captaincy material if he proves to possess leadership ability.
i’m sure the girls and some boys hearts just flutter everytime they see that angelic baby face.
19 Jan 2012, 10:31 am
@Sasuke-16:
Grant?
19 Jan 2012, 10:34 am
“keo.co.za’s information is that the position has been confirmed for some time. Gert Smal will be announced as Peter de Villiers’s successor next Friday,”
Once again this site gives a bunch of info but nothing to back it up with. I dont really consider their info trust worthy. I doubt Smal is going to get it. Probably HM. Hopefully…
19 Jan 2012, 10:34 am
@the artist formerly known as gunther-19:
i know.
i thought about responding but then i thought whats the point.
19 Jan 2012, 10:35 am
@Sasuke-16: In no particular order ofcourse.
19 Jan 2012, 10:36 am
Lambie. Have the Sharks now also caught the whole “Stormers diminutive nickname” thing?
19 Jan 2012, 10:37 am
@>^..^< katman-6: Not playing for the Lions he isn’t.
19 Jan 2012, 10:37 am
@the artist formerly known as gunther-19: Hey he is first choice at the Stormers and if he has a great season and improves on his out of hand kicking he can be a possibilty for Bok selection.
19 Jan 2012, 10:41 am
@Sasuke-16: You can remove Grant from that list , I would go with Elton !
My prefered Bok backline
15 – Lambie
14 – ???
13 – Juan De Joghn
12 – Frans Steyn
11 – ??
10 – Elton
9 – Hourgaard
I honestly have no idea who to play on the wings , so far no-one impresses me and will wait until the Super 15 to have an opinion.
19 Jan 2012, 10:41 am
@>^..^< katman-6:
Yeah…. Just like Ronnie Haarhof was going to to the long term Bok solution at 12
19 Jan 2012, 10:42 am
And Lee barnard the long term solution at 10
19 Jan 2012, 10:44 am
@Bod-27: Back so soon from your a.nus bleach? Or does the salon not take Bob T cards?
19 Jan 2012, 10:44 am
In the first bit of rugby news I have ever encountered in the daily edition of el Pais, it states that ol Gert has ruled himself out of the Bok job, committing to Ireland.
Please someone tell me the Spanish press have got it right…
19 Jan 2012, 10:46 am
@>^..^< katman-29: Nope… got me a two month contract picking oranges for the seasons harvest.
Delayed my return…. hallefckuinglejah!
19 Jan 2012, 10:47 am
@sparticus-26: I will wait and see how Grant goes in the S15. He might of picked up some wicked kcking technique in Japan or the training methods employed there might of given him range with the boot. I am an extreme eternal optimist
Maybe JPP for 14- he is still quite young and can still find decent form.
Mvovo for 11 perhaps.
19 Jan 2012, 10:48 am
@Sasuke-32: I sincerely hope so but I highly doubt it re grant.
19 Jan 2012, 10:50 am
@Bod-31: You serious?
LOL. Itnerant labour.
Classic.
On an aside, I was once asked on a radio quiz show to name an orange that was named after a Spanish City.
I said Seville.
They said wrong, the answer is Valencia.
I said wrong, you guys have cr@p research, there are 2 cities named after oranges, look it up.
So they did, and the gave me my money.
Made R5k that morning.
Much more profitable talking about oranges than picking them.
True story,
19 Jan 2012, 10:51 am
In other news I see Khanyi Mbau has had her koekie shown all over twitter again.
She has nipples I could hang my Burberry on.
19 Jan 2012, 10:51 am
David- Interesting to see how or if Morne Steyn can change his game! I sitll think he has alot to offer the Boks but has to change his game alot!
Lambie is a mercurial talent and will do well at 10, 12 or 15.
19 Jan 2012, 10:53 am
@stormersboy-34:
Indeed.
Seville Orange marmalade.
Which Fortnum’s very kindly flies over for me.
19 Jan 2012, 10:53 am
Itnerant=Itinerant,
19 Jan 2012, 10:53 am
@Bod-31: Ha ha, picking oranges? Old Boxcar Bod. Do you have a bedroll, a water canteen and a whittling knife?
19 Jan 2012, 10:54 am
You mean we’ve waited all this time just for Gert Smal?
Big deal
19 Jan 2012, 10:55 am
@the artist formerly known as gunther-37: Exactly. I’m a big fan of the stuff, hence my answer.
Morons everywhere.
19 Jan 2012, 10:57 am
@stormersboy-34: Which radio station was it?
@Bod-31: Are you serious bud? (no spelling mistake)
19 Jan 2012, 10:57 am
Boderico picking oranges?
He will be older than some of the trees there.
I give it about an hour before his back goes and the adhesive on his hairpiece melts.
He needs to check if this sort of activity is covered by the bricklayers union health plan.
19 Jan 2012, 10:57 am
@the artist formerly known as gunther-35: Yeah had a gawk at that yesterday,
I guess it may just work for her.
19 Jan 2012, 10:58 am
@stormersboy-41:
a big fan of Khanyi Mbau or Seville Orange marmies?
19 Jan 2012, 10:58 am
@stormersboy-41: Marmalade ugh!
19 Jan 2012, 10:58 am
@Sasuke-42: Cape Talk. The annnual Brain of Cape Town competition.
About 4 or 5 years ago
19 Jan 2012, 10:58 am
@Sasuke-32:
@sparticus-33:
The worst flyhalves who ever played for WP imo were Rob Bolus, Riaan Gouws and Peter Grant in no particular order.
19 Jan 2012, 11:00 am
@the artist formerly known as gunther-45: Marmies mostly.
Photos are a bit grainy to really make a call on whether I’d eat that too….
19 Jan 2012, 11:01 am
@Robzim-48: Clark Ellis.
By a mile.
19 Jan 2012, 11:03 am
@stormersboy-47:
I suprised WikkipediatilIdie doesn’t enter the brain of cape town or is wikki banned?
@stormersboy-49:
I’m quite suprised she doesn’t fly the bald eagle.
basic requirement for sugar daddy entrapment.
19 Jan 2012, 11:04 am
@stormersboy-41:
Yup, especially the ones with a bit scotch. Checkers have a rather nice one at a good price, called Danish Choice, produce of Poland.
19 Jan 2012, 11:06 am
England in major sh*t. Cook just gone and now 25/2.
19 Jan 2012, 11:07 am
@David-52: Even better. I’ll take scotch with just about anything.
19 Jan 2012, 11:09 am
@the artist formerly known as gunther-51: Who knows. You have to have the answers at the top of your head, which when you are on the radio is a bit stressful.
Also when you play against the 702 guys the telephone line can be a bit ****, leading to some confusion.
19 Jan 2012, 11:09 am
@Robzim-48: Naas Olivier??
19 Jan 2012, 11:09 am
@David-52:
whisky marmalade?
if you need some scotch with your breakfast just say so and have a glass.
No judgment here on keo
19 Jan 2012, 11:13 am
@stormersboy-55: I am a three times winner of a Cape Talk “three-two-one quiz” Breakfast Show coffee mug. Two remain intact.
19 Jan 2012, 11:16 am
@stormersboy-34:
Yip…. C for Seriaaaas.
Me and my group of trail riding hombres/amigos are cutting loose in the Valencias Orange Farm s the next two months.
The minimum wage here in Spain is probably more than what Katman earns in two years… plus we are on a quantity bonus…
Woe betide those oranges…
19 Jan 2012, 11:20 am
Petersen gone for a duck. Now 25/3
19 Jan 2012, 11:20 am
@>^..^< katman-58:
I feel unworthy.
19 Jan 2012, 11:21 am
Keo and their impeccable sources. Gotta love it.
19 Jan 2012, 11:22 am
@the artist formerly known as gunther-61: Don’t let it bring you down. There are many others like you.
19 Jan 2012, 11:25 am
@Tacitus-62: Don’t you just love how they make it sound all mysterious and secretive. Like they’re meeting up with some deep throat rogue agent in late night car parks. And it’s for our own good that we are only fed little dribbles of reliable information. Pardon me, but that’s my bullsht detector going beserk again in the background.
19 Jan 2012, 11:27 am
@>^..^< katman-58: Yeah I’ve won a couple over the years.
i don;t phone in on that comp anymore because each time you win one you are disqualified from entering anything for 3 months, which isn’t worth it for the mug.
19 Jan 2012, 11:27 am
Me and my group of trail riding hombres/amigos are cutting loose in the Valencias Orange Farm s the next two months.
A cross between Brokeback Mountain and On the Road
Cockwork Orange
19 Jan 2012, 11:28 am
@Bod-59: You should hook up a cart to the back of your MTB, you’ll by up and down those orchards in no time!
19 Jan 2012, 11:29 am
@the artist formerly known as gunther-66: lol (lol)
19 Jan 2012, 11:30 am
@Sasuke-68: oops
19 Jan 2012, 11:30 am
@stormersboy-65: I’ve also won plenty of other stuff there. Wine, meals, even Province tickets, which I almost had to pay someone to take off me. Best prize was a gourmet picnic at Warwick wine estate for four. Chef Bruce Robertson compiled the hampers. Well worth the drive out there.
19 Jan 2012, 11:32 am
@the artist formerly known as gunther-66:
I am purposely not reponding to you, as I am building up a little collage of your quips that I can dump on you before I plant my hairy, orange picking hardened fist into your kisser on my return to Cape Town
19 Jan 2012, 11:33 am
Katman and Stormboy………………………………………..A couple of mugs.
19 Jan 2012, 11:33 am
@the artist formerly known as gunther-66: It’s amazing how a season together in the orchards under the blazing sun turns a collection of lonely drifters into a really close-knit band of brothers. Some say even closer than brothers. But what happens in Seville…
19 Jan 2012, 11:33 am
@>^..^< katman-70: Nice. These days I save it up for the annual Brain of Cape Town comp. most years i win at least 5 or 6 k.
One day I’m going all the way,
Just like the Stormers,
19 Jan 2012, 11:34 am
@cane-72: Hahahaha
Cheeky sod
19 Jan 2012, 11:35 am
@>^..^< katman-73:
Indead.
They are thinking of making a movie about it with a wartime setting.
Saving Ryan’s Privates.
19 Jan 2012, 11:35 am
@Bod-71: No one wants to hear about where you plan to plant your hard, hairy stuff.
19 Jan 2012, 11:39 am
@Bod-71:
It’s always funny until someone gets hurt.
@>^..^< katman-77:
yes indeed.
very disturbing.
orange hardened?
usually I just have to think about Charlize.
But I’ll try oranges, I’m very open-minded that way.
19 Jan 2012, 11:41 am
@the artist formerly known as gunther-76: I heard about that. Apparently Bod wanted Antonio Banderas to play him, but so far the best the agents have come up with is either Casper de Vries or an affordable Tony Danza lookalike from Turkey.
19 Jan 2012, 11:43 am
@>^..^< katman-79:
Casper de Vries is too skinny and his voice is too deep to play a convincing Bod.
I’m thinking Nathaniel with a ponytail and moustache.
19 Jan 2012, 11:43 am
@the artist formerly known as gunther-78: But you know our Bod. Waste not, want not. He first sucks the juice from the orange before employing it as a fruity fluffer.
19 Jan 2012, 11:44 am
England the self proclaimed best side in the world, now 35/4 still needing 111 to avoid an innings defeat.
19 Jan 2012, 11:44 am
@>^..^< katman-64:
Is this the same source that confirmed that Butch was the World Cup flyhalf?
I love how they refused to admit their error, even AFTER the fact, and then tried to rewrite history to try and show how Butch WAS actually the World Cup flyhalf in every conceivable way – other than the little matter of the clearly unreliable broadcast signal that showed differently on our TV screen.
19 Jan 2012, 11:44 am
@the artist formerly known as gunther-80: You’ve just described the Greek instrumentalist, Yanni.
Or even Steven Segal.
19 Jan 2012, 11:45 am
Cape Town – The South African Rugby Union (SARU) has asked the media to assist in alerting local businesses to the activities of a Western Cape-based conman who has been attempting to defraud local restaurants.
At least two Cape Town establishments have been approached to take bookings for large groups from someone purporting to be “Chair, Organising Committee, SARU”.
In one instance a Cape Town restaurant received a booking for a meal for 27 people on the strength of an apparently forged “proof of payment”. In the other a booking was made for 36 people.
The “proof of payment” is then used to claim overpayment for the forthcoming booking. The fraudster requests reimbursement into his account in order to ensure his party is able to pay for transport to fulfil the booking.
Businesses are advised to beware of a person calling himself Craig Adams, claiming to be “Chair, Organising Committee, SARU”. He uses the email address theboks@therugby.co.za in an attempt to lend credibility to his scam. SARU has no such employee and does not operate such an email domain.
19 Jan 2012, 11:45 am
@Tacitus-83: Yep, more like impeccable sauce, if you ask me.
19 Jan 2012, 11:47 am
@the artist formerly known as gunther-80:
In fact Bod could take a leaf from Nathaniels book and combine his love of amateur theatrics, Spanish and red meat into an outdoor cooking show.
maybe set it in South America.
Don’t Braai for me Argentina.
19 Jan 2012, 11:49 am
Now why oh why does JC only blow smoke only up Lambies fat one and not up the other candidates. Now don’t get me wrong, Lambie is a guppy that I actually like, but he is not better than Elton or Goosen, these two guys have the X factor.
Lambie to me is like a Derick Hougaard flyhalf, with limited talent but operating at 100% of his limited talent.
JC I’m glad that you are expanding your writing skills to other stories besides always Stormers boring shiit. Now please delete this article and post one talking all 10 playing super rugby this year so that if Smal reads Keo he is better informed.
19 Jan 2012, 11:50 am
@David-82:
Yeah, the are not going to be saved by the Bell today.
Maybe by Johny from Rondebosch.
But they are not “self-proclaimed”- they deserve that spot for now.
19 Jan 2012, 11:52 am
@RL-88: If Smal reads keo, he may just be very surprised by the reliably confirmed fact that he is the next Bok coach.
19 Jan 2012, 11:53 am
@RL-88: The only X factor I’ve seen from Goosen thus far is his kicking.
His distribution and attacking play remains average.
Maybe he’ll kick on this season, wouldn’t mind if he did!
19 Jan 2012, 11:57 am
Bod, katman, Cunther, Bakkies, Stormboy, Sasuke.
You Guys have been awesome tonight.
Great reading your jabs and counterpunches.
19 Jan 2012, 11:57 am
@RL-88:
come now redpussy.
you spend your time so far up young elton’s tradesman’s entrance that you have been reduced to typing with your toes.
19 Jan 2012, 11:59 am
@Robzim-89:
Yeah, they hold the number one spot for now, but it’s not enough to call themselves the best. It’s a bit like a side that finds itself top of the English Premiership halfway through the season, claiming to be the best.
BTW, is this considered a home test for Pakistan as far as point scoring is concerned?
19 Jan 2012, 12:01 pm
@stormersboy-91:
In my opinion Goosen is the future of Bok rugby.
Check this clip for his attacking play:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IumX3Qjt4fw
19 Jan 2012, 12:03 pm
@David-94:
It is supposed to be a neutral venue so I am not sure how they are going to deal with the points scoring.
19 Jan 2012, 12:03 pm
@>^..^< katman-90: true, very true!
@stormersboy-91: he is the complete flyhalf, not only the perfect kicking game, but he has gas to burn (Lambie runs on steam). Goosen also has Along slip through skills and he owns a SBW offload.
Smal has no option but to go for x factor players, like Goosen or Jantjies.
19 Jan 2012, 12:06 pm
@Robzim-95: Ja, that’s pretty impressive play.
That Cheetahs lock who scored the second try (Labuschagne) looks very useful too.
19 Jan 2012, 12:08 pm
@RL-88: “Now why oh why does JC only blow smoke only up Lambies fat one and not up the other candidates.”
http://www.keo.co.za/2012/01/05/in-contention-for-10/
lay off JC.
19 Jan 2012, 12:08 pm
@RL-88:
Good description. Limited talent, but operating at 100% of his limited talent.
19 Jan 2012, 12:10 pm
@RL-97:
When has a Bok coach ever gone for an X Factor 10? Even Lam was a conservative defensive option.
19 Jan 2012, 12:11 pm
@David-101:
Oops, Lem.
19 Jan 2012, 12:13 pm
Ok, Ruan was an attempt.
19 Jan 2012, 12:15 pm
@David-101: didn’t know phillip lam played 10 for the boks
19 Jan 2012, 12:17 pm
@Robzim-95: Maybe. One (great) game isn’t really enough in my book.
Does he have potential? Absolutely.
But of he does turn out to be “the man”, I’d be more than happy for Springbok rugby.
19 Jan 2012, 12:24 pm
@Transformation-104:
19 Jan 2012, 12:26 pm
@stormersboy-105:
Pity that Rassie could not use his “Free State” connections to get him or at least Sias Ebersohn to move down here.
It could have been Rassie’s farewell gift to the regime at Newlands.
Mind you, they probably do not reserve that.
19 Jan 2012, 12:27 pm
@Robzim-95:
ag look man, thats no different to the video someone posted of kurtley beale’s schoolboy escapades the other day. its really two different worlds isn’t it.
question is whether he can step up to international level where the time and space is a lot harder to come by and still do those sort of things?
he is good looking so far but lets see how he goes in the big boys show come season three. just look at kossie and the legendary hype that preceded him from school rugby.
19 Jan 2012, 12:28 pm
@Transformation-99: hell man!
19 Jan 2012, 12:30 pm
cool cane
19 Jan 2012, 12:30 pm
@Robzim-107: rassie pulled a coup by getting U21 Player of the Year 2010 to WP. how much more should he have done?
19 Jan 2012, 12:30 pm
Good luck Lambie, stand up and be counted young man !!
19 Jan 2012, 12:31 pm
Keo , Butch is mos your man
19 Jan 2012, 12:31 pm
@Transformation-111: or is it ’09?
19 Jan 2012, 12:32 pm
Goosen is the future imo. His attacking play is great…he has a wicked step and good accel to get through gaps. He also have the vision to see those gaps. He will also make a very good fullback.
19 Jan 2012, 12:34 pm
X factor at 10 , ask the auzies about that , Mr Cooper
Even King Carlos was replaced with more concervative Carter
All other nations play with more concervative 10
Jantjes was exception in cc , lets see
19 Jan 2012, 12:34 pm
@Transformation-114: Vermeulen?
19 Jan 2012, 12:35 pm
@Sasuke-115: Lets see him in 2nd Year and in S15
19 Jan 2012, 12:36 pm
@Sasuke-117: was vermuelen U21 in ’09?
19 Jan 2012, 12:37 pm
@au revoir mon tout noirs, au revoir…-108:
Kurtly Beale did turn out to be a very decent international player.
And Koster can still live up to expectations- the one year lay-off due to an injury set him back quite a bit.
Before you know he might take the place of “Spiesie”
But I take your and Stormer Boy’s point- it is early days for Goosen
19 Jan 2012, 12:40 pm
@Transformation-119: lol is it Lionel Cronje?
19 Jan 2012, 12:41 pm
@Robzim-107: Why do you need an attacking Flyhalve in Stormers , surely with Defence and scoring 17 tries in 15 games it should not be a problem
19 Jan 2012, 12:43 pm
@Sasuke-121: eurika!
19 Jan 2012, 12:48 pm
@Sasuke-121: it’s crazy, heyneke wants to play high tempo skills-based rugby and he goes and shops by wp for cronje & sadie and he jettisons brummer and marnitz boshoff who he had molded to be stampkaar 10s.
i don’t like that kind of treatment, like brummer & boshoff are pieces of meat.
19 Jan 2012, 12:48 pm
@capebull-122: True you just need some to do the basics well and kick the goals. Grant is perfect for that.
19 Jan 2012, 12:49 pm
@Transformation-124: Where did Brummer and Boshoff go to?
19 Jan 2012, 12:50 pm
@Robzim-120: did beale play 10 or 15 at high school? he bombed big time at 10 for the tahs.
19 Jan 2012, 12:52 pm
@capebull-116:
no point in having an attacking 10 if your outside backs aren’t up to it, best SA play with Steyn the robot it suits their style of play
19 Jan 2012, 12:54 pm
@Transformation-127: I think 10.
19 Jan 2012, 12:55 pm
@Sasuke-125: I think that Stormers must develope the Greek
19 Jan 2012, 12:57 pm
@Transformation-124:
its pro sport and players are commodities.
besides brummer and boshooff were kak.
are they at the kings now ?
19 Jan 2012, 12:57 pm
@Sasuke-126: Boshoff went to Griquas i think and Brummer is in limbo. Watermeyer is overseas – Ospreys and Watermeyer is with Paul Treu’s Sevens. all discards from the Bulls 3 of these okes were Baby Boks in ’08
19 Jan 2012, 12:58 pm
@capebull-130: yes agreed he fits the mould perfectly although van aswegen is my favourite of the youngsters.
19 Jan 2012, 13:00 pm
@NZINCHINA-128: I do not undertand your point.
Stormers backline last two years :
Grant, Habana, JdV , Fourie …. they scored 17 tries last year and 18 the year before of wich 50% was by driving maul.
How does that relate to robot-Morne.
Could it just be that maybe , just maybe JdV and Fourie are not that great. Did we see something great from Frans at 12 in WC
19 Jan 2012, 13:00 pm
@capebull-122:
What we need is a flyhalf who can dictate the game.
Grant is a brilliant defender, average distributor but as far as tactical kicking and kicking for touch are concerned he is useless.
Gary van Aswegen has all the attributes to become a very good balanced no 10, but seems to be injury proned.
The Greek might still get there, but I am not sure whether he has the “hard edge” to really mix it up on a higher level- he seems a bit frail.
Coleman?- Perhaps, the jury is still out,
Burton Francis- Too slow, one trick pony- a bit like the poor man’s Willem de Waal.
Tim Swiel- Too early for him, there is only one James O’Conner.
So, imo, unless Gary can remain injury free , the Stormers might have a problem at no 10 yet again this year.
19 Jan 2012, 13:08 pm
@the artist formerly known as gunther-131: brummer wasn’t kak initially!
imagine if heyneke got his mitts on johan goosen, made him play stampkaar in the vodacom cup for 2 years and then discard him…that’s callous. brummer was baby bok flyhalf, attacking the line, passing with aplomb, one year with heyneke and was summarily overtook by l.cronje & ebersohn who were still playing fluid enterprising rugby.
heyneke kills careers!
19 Jan 2012, 13:09 pm
@Transformation-132: Dippenaar is with Treu
19 Jan 2012, 13:09 pm
@Robzim-135:
They could do worse than play Pietersen at 10, if needed.
19 Jan 2012, 13:11 pm
LAMBIE all the way.
A bok combo of 9. Hougaard 10. Lambie and 12. F Steyn would be insane to watch
19 Jan 2012, 13:12 pm
@Transformation-136:
agh some players just don’t kick on.
passing with aplomb, easy on the hyperbole s’bali.
not every babybok grows up to be a bok.
19 Jan 2012, 13:14 pm
@Transformation-111:
and he brought the best ‘world cup winning’ winger ever to the cape…from the bulls nogal…
19 Jan 2012, 13:19 pm
@Sasuke-115: Na talent like him and Lambie should be in the key position of 10 only IMO. WIll be great to see what he can do in super rugby
19 Jan 2012, 13:19 pm
@Transformation-136:
Didn’t you confirm a while back that Heyneke was changing the Bulls style of play and they would adopt a more “ball in hand” attacking philosophy.
Could see it come to fruition during the CC last year.
Why this sudden doubt?
19 Jan 2012, 13:20 pm
@Transformation-124:
have you been drinking during your lunch hour, transie?
19 Jan 2012, 13:21 pm
@the artist formerly known as gunther-51:
I did participate in the Brain of Cape Town last year, and made myself a few grand.
You should come with us to a Quiz Nite at the Firemans.
19 Jan 2012, 13:21 pm
@Transformation-127: Mostly 10 I think, watched a youtube clip of his school rugby the other day – all at flyhalf, was deadly on attack
19 Jan 2012, 13:23 pm
@WP Till I Die-145:
sheesus.
between you and stomerstein I’m suprised anyone else got a look in.
19 Jan 2012, 13:24 pm
@WP Till I Die-145: I took part in a company quiz night once. We lost out to some wanky law firm, who managed to sneak their Blackberries in. We could see them googling under the table. Scum, those legal types.
19 Jan 2012, 13:25 pm
@>^..^< katman-148:
19 Jan 2012, 13:26 pm
@the artist formerly known as gunther-147: I think, if you add up all the reported brain of Cape Talk winnings here, then a crooked lotto pay-out couldn’t cover it. Methinks the size of the catch has grown with age.
19 Jan 2012, 13:28 pm
134 At test level SA doesn’t have the backs to play an expansive game so they should stick with Steyn a good kicking 10.
19 Jan 2012, 13:32 pm
Message to new Bok Coach.
Please…….
No M steyn
No P Spies
Thanks you kindly
19 Jan 2012, 13:33 pm
@>^..^< katman-148:
that sounds like an incestec trick.
@>^..^< katman-150:
indeed.
next thing it will be the hat trick of tries they scored at intervarsity.
19 Jan 2012, 13:33 pm
@grant10-152: and no Habana
19 Jan 2012, 13:38 pm
@grant10-152:
Heyneke will tell you to feckoff!!!
19 Jan 2012, 13:39 pm
@>^..^< katman-148:
Now then, don’t talk about Harry the Beachwalker/ethel like that!
19 Jan 2012, 13:40 pm
@Bok fan-154: and no Jorrie
19 Jan 2012, 13:40 pm
morne steyn is going nowhere.
what the point of ‘convent school gilrl’ bitchin about it.
he’s the best 10 we have, fact.
then elton who should be groomed as understudy now already and then maybe..maybe..goosen.
19 Jan 2012, 13:42 pm
@Jeraldjay-155: smal may not though?
19 Jan 2012, 13:43 pm
poms getting a bit of a hiding here
19 Jan 2012, 13:50 pm
@grant10-159:
I agree with au revoir. M. Steyn has to play against the Poms. We might not like it but we have no option. Elton’s/Goosen’s time will come.
I’m ‘n “glass half full” kind of guy but I’m expecting more of the same in 2012…..
19 Jan 2012, 13:56 pm
@Jeraldjay-161: no way …..we need to break out of the laager thinking and embrace a more ball in hand approach
anyone of lambie, j antjes , goosen will be a marked improvement…..
break the shackles
19 Jan 2012, 13:57 pm
@au revoir mon tout noirs, au revoir…-158:
good news, we like Steyn at 10
19 Jan 2012, 13:58 pm
m steyn was part and parcel of the abortions of 2010 and 2011…
no more
asseblief
19 Jan 2012, 13:59 pm
boks will miss a couple of stalwarts
But imo the dropping and loss of Spies
MSTeyn
and plod
is already a vast improvement
19 Jan 2012, 14:04 pm
Another day in SA rugby…
Meyer seems to have overaken Smal as the favourite to coach the Boks given some niggling issues that will take some sorting to get Gert here.
Also, the possibility of PDV doing a hospital job for the England tour is more real than some might believe.
Exciting week awaits us…
19 Jan 2012, 14:04 pm
@Jeraldjay-161:
agreed.
let’s not throw the baby out with the bath water.
19 Jan 2012, 14:04 pm
@grant10-162:
I hope you right Grant. In that last game against Aus I saw a few signs of a high tempo, ball in hand philosophy.
19 Jan 2012, 14:07 pm
@Morné-166:
what I can’t understand is why there wasn’t a clear sucession plan in place when PDV’s contract was up, SA rugby has had 4 years to prepare for this it should be seamless
19 Jan 2012, 14:09 pm
@grant10-162: Couldnt agree more. If not now then when
19 Jan 2012, 14:10 pm
@NZINCHINA-163:
i would be more concerned about hanson and the missing poster boy ‘for jailhouse tricksters everywhere’ if i were you.
19 Jan 2012, 14:11 pm
@sparticus-26: Im thinking:
9. hougaard
10. Lambie/Elton
11. Mvovo
12. Frans
13. De Jongh
14. Aplon
15. Lambie/Taute
Would be pretty awesome.
Forwards?
1. Guthro / Beast / Coenie
2. Bissie / Chiliboy
3. Jannie / Coenie
4. Flip / Elstadt / Alberts
5. Bekker
6. Brussow
7. Schalla / Juan / bringing in Josh Strauss by 2013
8. Spies (ugh) / Vermeulen / Alberts
19 Jan 2012, 14:12 pm
@NZINCHINA-163: Thats all the confirmation we need to know its time to get a genuine 10.
I think you guys should be a bit concerned about Carters injuries but as history goes youll probably get a perfect 10 coming through this year to replace him. Fox/Merhtens/Carter
19 Jan 2012, 14:13 pm
@au revoir mon tout noirs, au revoir…-171:
no concerns here my friend world champs, no 1 ranked team were doing just fine thanks,
19 Jan 2012, 14:13 pm
@grant10-162: It will take a looooong time to perfect that change – and a LOT of heartbreaking losses to endure while they get it right.
Then we will all be baying for the coaches blood, and moaning how we cant “play like NZ” and so on. Eventually everyone will be screaming for the Boks to maak sag and kick to the corners.
Some coaches have tried it (Du Plessis) and some wanted to (PDiv even). No one can stick to it because of the nature of SA Rugby and the fans.
The best is when we have the balance between the 2 – Mallet, Christie and under Jake (besides 2006).
19 Jan 2012, 14:14 pm
@NZINCHINA-169:
SA Rugby is not known to think things through, let alone plan…
You see appointing the Bok coach is not a business decision in SA (what is best for the game), it is a political one in which the (amateur) ‘board’ members make back handed deals to secure votes.
That said, this year’s process although much delayed, is seemingly following a more professional approach (thanks mainly to the new guy at SA Rugby Jurie Roux).
Remember you are dealing with country and board who ‘fired’ their World Cup Winning coach whilst you knighted yours!!!
19 Jan 2012, 14:14 pm
@bokfan1-172: Now thats a team
Just exclude Spies and we all set for a successful 2012
19 Jan 2012, 14:16 pm
aussies and kiwis just loved it when we stuck with plod, spies and M Steyn….we were sitting ducks
19 Jan 2012, 14:18 pm
@grant10-178: and Habana
19 Jan 2012, 14:19 pm
@Bok fan-173:
Steyn is a good player but he’ll never bust a game open so you know what to expect, Carters in good shape he’ll be around in 2015 I reckon but as you say we should uncover another gem at 10 most probably from the Canterbury area
19 Jan 2012, 14:22 pm
@Morné-176
lol Jake was treated very badly after bringing home the big prize
19 Jan 2012, 14:28 pm
@>^..^< katman-150: Rich coming from someone whose claim to fame is defeating Maythom one day on “Brain of the Day” with the question of:
‘Of the 14942 SA soldiers that lost their lives in the first world war, please give me the full names of the 7491′st soldier to die”
And he still maintains he is a genius,,,
19 Jan 2012, 14:28 pm
@bokfan1-175: i am not saying play silly run at all costs rugby….I have been around the block enough to know it all starts up front….but we need a 10 who can lay flatter and bring his backs into play more effectively…
I am sorry but M teyn is not the key….
We must choose the right pack….first and foremost…then lookto add some key playmakers in the backline..
I am not sure who the next 10 should be….I believe the super 15 will provide some answers…..
But I am 100% convinced who is not the answers…..and those players are M Syeyn and Spies, glaring weaknesses imo…as was Plod
19 Jan 2012, 14:29 pm
@trupisero-179: yip
19 Jan 2012, 14:31 pm
@Bod-182:
yassus but that Maytit is a knobber.
he gets very sulky if he gets one wrong.
quite like extraball in that respect.
nobody likes a knowitall.
hey my china?
19 Jan 2012, 14:32 pm
England are 11 behind with 3 wickets remaining.
I see Pietersen got another duck. His been kak for the last 2 years.
Read KP’s book. A holgesig of the highest order.
19 Jan 2012, 14:36 pm
All i want the new Bok coach to embrace is a blank canvas….
No farken favorites or fat boys club type thinking.
Take the super 15 and use it as a super trial….
Form must be the yardstick
Make it known that no player has a right to the jersey…..and that every player has the chance to prove there worth in the super rugby.
Players like Taute, Minnie, Mvovo , to name a few, will bust a gut knowing they are to be given a fair chance…..
The new HC has the opportunity to cut away the culture of entitlement and favoritism that was a hallmark of 2010 and 2011……which lead to such disastrous results….
In a way Smal will be perfect, as he comes from the ‘ outside ‘ and may have less preconceived opinions than Heyneke….
19 Jan 2012, 14:37 pm
So far, in katman vs maytham, it’s katman 2, mathyam 0.
Both my questions were music related pearlers. And John-boy was reduced to a stammering mess.
19 Jan 2012, 14:37 pm
poms on the precipice…9 down
19 Jan 2012, 14:38 pm
@Jeraldjay-143: i’m not doubting anything, just saying guys like morne & brummer used to be complete flyhalfs with all manner of attributes which is why the bulls’ scouts targeted them. at the bulls heyneke taught them that stampkaar was the way to go and they must ditch their fanciful ideas of running rugby ie stiffling their natural game. roll on 3 years – in the case of brummer – and now heyneke has changed whims and wants to play expansively – “helter skelter” in saffa parlance – and these kids have all of a sudden apparently stopped being ‘talented’ meanwhile it was him brainwashing them with stampkaar nonsense.
19 Jan 2012, 14:40 pm
oh grant, watch the bulls go right back to the top with morne…and then what?..
but you are of course one of those guys who likes to win everywhere else but on the scoreboard so it wont matter.
‘too bad elton missed those kicks but did you see how he ran’…
its two sides of the same coin, and ii wouldn’t matter if you called it heads or tails…
19 Jan 2012, 14:42 pm
@>^..^< katman-188:
Imagine that a genius picking oranges…
How the mighty have fallen
In 2 months time he will have to leave spain and his own little make believe world.
19 Jan 2012, 14:45 pm
@grant10-162: wait for MSteyn to show you his running game in Super Rugby and THEN bash him. with the bulls coaching staff promising a high tempo “run at them” 80 minute onslaught, MAYBE we will see MSteyn flourish.
19 Jan 2012, 14:45 pm
@grant10-183:
Beast
Bizzy
Jannie
Flip
Bekker
Brussouw
Schalk
Alberts
Hougie
Elton
Frans
de Jongh
Pieterson
Mvovo
Taute
Areas of concern for backup – lock, scrumhalf, centre.
Elstadt should get a look in, I’d have lambie on the bench with Aplon to cover 10-15, but can’t think of a decent 9! Would like to see Nic Groom get a good season and challenge for higher honours.
19 Jan 2012, 14:46 pm
morne steyn is young enough to make it to the next world cup.
19 Jan 2012, 14:46 pm
i hope he does.
19 Jan 2012, 14:46 pm
@au revoir mon tout noirs, au revoir…-191: see how he ran in the CC final?
and kicked the goals?
check the rugby Lions are playing with a so called ‘ limited team ‘ ?
Seen what a ball in hand approach can do?
Now take that game plan and add 22 boks?
wakey wakey bud…
or its 4 more dismal years…
19 Jan 2012, 14:47 pm
@Fern is not a stud,he is merely no19-192:
jeez fernly.
we aren’t asking bod to peel them or anything.
just pick them,
he’ll go all right.
He’ll be back at the bar of the Edgemead Bowls Club telling war stories in no time.
19 Jan 2012, 14:48 pm
@Transformation-193: I will be the first to applaud him…..
but I wont hold my breath
same as Spies as an 8…..
all the talk but years of no walk….while better players languish on the sidelines…
19 Jan 2012, 14:49 pm
@>^..^< katman-188: I call in from time to time if I feel I have something meaningful or insightful to add to the debate.
Understanding that if I get it wrong my mates (who also listen sometimes) will never let me hear the end of it,
As for the winnings, it’s hardly worth exaggerating for a couple of grand here and there.
It’s not like i went fishing or was handing in my golf score.
19 Jan 2012, 14:49 pm
@Transformation-190:
And once you’ve been brain washed it’s close to impossible to get that indoctrinated stampkaar mindset out of you. M.Steyn is a perfect example.
19 Jan 2012, 14:49 pm
@au revoir mon tout noirs, au revoir…-196:
so do I
19 Jan 2012, 14:49 pm
@trupisero-194: nice
19 Jan 2012, 14:50 pm
@the artist formerly known as gunther-198:
Yip,breaking 90year old picking records,sleeping in the orchards with his man.
19 Jan 2012, 14:53 pm
@Jeraldjay-201:
I dunno.
The bulls backs scored plent of tries with him at the helm in 2010.
Non?
19 Jan 2012, 14:54 pm
@Fern is not a stud,he is merely no19-192: Ol’Boderick will probably try and convince us that Hemingway and Kerouac also had stints picking oranges.
And he may even put forward a convincing argument.
But when we next hear from him, and he’s picking up litter on Madrid’s central train station platforms, you may want to take that romanticised version of events with a pinch of salt.
19 Jan 2012, 14:55 pm
Here is a once of opportunity for WP/Stormers. He is old enough:
‘n Springbok in Luiperdsgewaad die eerste keer in sowat tien jaar! En een wat sowat drie jaar ouer as die hulp-afrigter (en sy voormalige Bok-spanmaat) Jorrie Muller is.
Dit word dalk binnekort waar indien onderhandelinge met die Luiperds en die Springbok-losskakel André Pretorius suksesvol is. ‘n Potchefstroomse maatskappy sal nog vandeesweek aandui of hulle vir Petoors se salaris sal instaan.
They should make him an offer.
19 Jan 2012, 14:56 pm
@>^..^< katman-206:
Foreigner getting a job in one of the PIIGS?
Next he is gonna tell us about his huge wage he makes.
He is just a recycled teenager and should act his age.
19 Jan 2012, 14:57 pm
@grant10-197:
i sincerely hope he makes the step up this time, grant. its an opportunity for him if he takes it firmly in his hands. he has wilted before but thats ok, he is young.
morne, if you remember took his opportunity in 2009, in 2010 we ran them very close despite the cheating, illegal play and in 2011 we all know it was all about the wc.
morne is still young and just as entitled as the next man to earn a position in the bok squad..as is elton..and goosen..and maybe..maybe..even lambie…but grant can just go ffuck himself…japanese style.
19 Jan 2012, 14:57 pm
@Fern is not a stud,he is merely no19-204:
I’m sure they have their own sleeping bags.
Anyway I look forward to taking some pesetas of Bod on the golf course when he returns.
You can come too if you want. We need someone to carry the bags and look for Bod’s balls.
19 Jan 2012, 15:00 pm
Poor old Bod getting picked on by the comedy team at KEO, if you don’t find it funny is that against the rules
19 Jan 2012, 15:01 pm
@Jeraldjay-201: now how can the dr kovokian that was doing the brainwashing then turn around and say you’re damaged goods and you’re surplus to requirements when he is now exploring a new invention?
“I brought Pine (Pienaar) in who was a backline coach because I want to improve the way we’re playing. If you look at the guys we’ve recruited, they are very exciting backs.
“You always have a vision of how you want to play and then get players around that.
“We will always have a tough forward pack but we’ve looked at how the game has evolved,” Meyer said
However the changes will not be without their casualties.
“The hard decisions we had to make (were) which players we want to keep and which we will let go,” Meyer said.
19 Jan 2012, 15:03 pm
@au revoir mon tout noirs, au revoir…-209: ja…Grant is far too limited out of hand kicking….
I agree….blank canvas…if M Steyn reinvents himself then so be it….personally I dont believe he can, but will gbe happy to acknowledge if he does so…..
I dont really have favorites as such……
I liked what I saw In jantjes….big time….
Lambie has the ideal platform to show his value with sharks saying they will play him at 10
and Goosen I have not seen a lot of but Hawies saying he is by far the best 10 in the country and will prove it in 2012…..
So…imo…its all to play for….
and may the best all round 10 win
19 Jan 2012, 15:05 pm
@the artist formerly known as gunther-210: Fernly hasn’t got a passport so half of Bod’s balls will remain OB
19 Jan 2012, 15:07 pm
@NZINCHINA-211: Now now, don’t be like that…..
This is where I get my best material….
19 Jan 2012, 15:07 pm
@the artist formerly known as gunther-210:
You cannot afford me.
I see the communist kiwi is feeling left out.
Why does he spend so much time here?
Why is he not on a kiwi rugby blog?
19 Jan 2012, 15:08 pm
i have been following the story of the italian ship that sank and the cowardly captain who abandoned the ship and passengers.
said he accidentally tripped and fell into a lifeboat (with his second and third in command in tow) and that where he found himself and was just unable to get out and back up to the boat.
what a doos!
19 Jan 2012, 15:09 pm
@au revoir mon tout noirs, au revoir…-217:
he is such a lying cheat,he must have kiwi blood in him.
19 Jan 2012, 15:10 pm
@grant10-213: sharks with those plonkers hug reece-edwards & grant bashford coaching the backs won’t know what to say to lambie!
lambie played 10 the bulk of the super rugby season last year, what did you think of him?
19 Jan 2012, 15:10 pm
@au revoir mon tout noirs, au revoir…-217: laughed my *** off when I saw that excuse!
19 Jan 2012, 15:11 pm
News just in:
Rassie Erasmus has been appointed as the technical advisor to the Springboks.
19 Jan 2012, 15:11 pm
pakistan need 8 more runs to go up 1 nil in 3 test series
19 Jan 2012, 15:12 pm
@NZINCHINA-211:
no, no, it really is side splittingly funny some of the stuff being said. just take the time to rad through it again perhaps.
@stormersboy-215:
19 Jan 2012, 15:12 pm
@Morné-221: great news
imo
19 Jan 2012, 15:12 pm
@NZINCHINA-211:
calm down china.
Bods a big boy who can give it as well.
If you don’t like it go and make yourself handy and rustle up some noodles for the boys.
19 Jan 2012, 15:12 pm
@Transformation-219: I really like Lambie, but I suspect he is too good for his own good and should properly fill a utility back role on the bench.
19 Jan 2012, 15:14 pm
@au revoir mon tout noirs, au revoir…-217: Ja. Known for their bravery in face of danger those Italians…..
19 Jan 2012, 15:15 pm
@Morné-221: IMHO Rassie and Heyneke will be a good combo.
Or could it be that Smal may still come after the 6N and Rassie plays caretaker in the meantime?
19 Jan 2012, 15:16 pm
@Transformation-212:
Transie, Heyneke’s philosphy has given us 2 Tri-nations and a World Cup.
It was good while it lasted and he has realised that he has to move with the times.
Good luck to him if his newly adopted strategy works. If it benefits the Bulls it will be beneficial to Bok rugby.
19 Jan 2012, 15:16 pm
@Transformation-219: a bit slow at times….
a good distributor
sound defensively
not huge kicker out of hand
prepared to have a go…..
Jantjes impressed me most in CC
Love to see more of Goosen though…..
19 Jan 2012, 15:16 pm
@Morné-221: Really? Full-time?
19 Jan 2012, 15:17 pm
@stormersboy-215:
he is very sour that one.
@trupisero-214:
according to reliable sources Bod’s balls sit firmly in his old lady’s handbag.
@Fern is not a stud,he is merely no19-216:
I have asked him that many times but he can’t answer.
He adds no value as far as I can tell.
19 Jan 2012, 15:18 pm
@the artist formerly known as gunther-225:
If bod ever made a movie of his time picking oranges I reckon Mickey Rourke should play him.
19 Jan 2012, 15:19 pm
So Rassie Technical Advisor
Gert Smal/Heyneke Meyer Head Coach
Who will be the assistants?
19 Jan 2012, 15:19 pm
@the artist formerly known as gunther-232:
People gravitate towards what they admire.
He does not want to be a kiwi,and who can blame him,
19 Jan 2012, 15:22 pm
@Jeraldjay-229: didn’t know heynek was coaching the boks, i thought it was jake all along
19 Jan 2012, 15:22 pm
pAKISTAN GO 1 NIL UP
10 WICKET WIN
19 Jan 2012, 15:23 pm
@Morné-221: WHERE DID YOU SEE THIS?
19 Jan 2012, 15:24 pm
@the artist formerly known as gunther-232:you know it’s a good **** when it wakes you from a dead sleep and you pull a butt muscle at the same time
19 Jan 2012, 15:24 pm
@grant10-237: can’t say i’m dissapointed.
Well played.
19 Jan 2012, 15:25 pm
Go Pakistan!
19 Jan 2012, 15:25 pm
@grant10-237: Great stuff for Proteas we might get a bonus. Need to perform in NZ.
19 Jan 2012, 15:26 pm
@grant10-238: Must be fake but it sounds good….
19 Jan 2012, 15:28 pm
@Transformation-236:
Really looking forward to the Brumbies style of play this season.
19 Jan 2012, 15:28 pm
@Sasuke-231: @grant10-238:
There is mass panic and a lot of phone calls being made right now I can promise you! A reputable organisation let it slip that this has been done but neither SA Rugby or anyone has released anything official – circus at the moment!
19 Jan 2012, 15:29 pm
Vokkit Plumtree my Sheepshagging friend, this is DEFINITELY a step in the right direction.
Well done old boy.
19 Jan 2012, 15:31 pm
@Durban Dad-246: lol
19 Jan 2012, 15:32 pm
@Morné-245: wow big scoop. it serves them right for making us wait so long!
19 Jan 2012, 15:32 pm
@Morné-245: whoa!!
Will be a brilliant Bok acquisition imo…..and may mean Smal will be HC as Rassie can pick up the slack while Smal completes his 6 nation commitments with iRELAND….
really good news imo
19 Jan 2012, 15:35 pm
@Sasuke-248: @grant10-249:
Oh no its kak, because all the denials will come through now. And a certain organisation is in deep kak I reckon! All fun though.
19 Jan 2012, 15:36 pm
@grant10-249: Makes sense. Any news about Assistants? Treu? Heyneke Meyer?
19 Jan 2012, 15:36 pm
joh
and only a few days ago everybody was slating rassie for stuffing the pooch at the stronters.
can we make up our minds?
19 Jan 2012, 15:39 pm
SA Rugby now made an official announcement to ignore the current rumour, full story to be released later today apparently, will keep you updated…
19 Jan 2012, 15:42 pm
So when will Rassie be formally presented with his state of the art flashlights and keys to the 6 major stadium roofs of SA?
19 Jan 2012, 15:44 pm
@Morné-250: what? Is it true or not?
I am confused now?
19 Jan 2012, 15:44 pm
@>^..^< katman-254:
i raved to those flashlights when they first came out.
was such a fan back then.
really thought he was going to conquer the world.
19 Jan 2012, 15:46 pm
@Sasuke-251: big rumours of Treu as assistant coach for backs…
but truth be told I am as in the dark as everyone else….dont know what to believe anymore….
My gut says
HC Smal
Rassie Tech Advisor
Treu Backline
No idea about Forwards Coach
19 Jan 2012, 15:46 pm
@au revoir mon tout noirs, au revoir…-256: A raver?
Do you also wear cowboy boots?
19 Jan 2012, 15:47 pm
@Morné-253: please keep the site updated
much appreciated
19 Jan 2012, 15:52 pm
@>^..^< katman-254:
they are still trying to bring fuckadilly and his sniper rifle down from the newlands roof.
then thunderbirds are go.
19 Jan 2012, 15:54 pm
@grant10-259: Don’t be so lazy
Go to Morne (pissant)’s site ruggaworld.com and get the good stuff there first!
Best articles by the most knowledgeable guys.
I blog there sometime, I should know
Lazy sod
I hope this is not the same sort of dedication that you treat the dreadmill with…..
Just a few rules.
No duplicate comments,.
You know what I mean
19 Jan 2012, 16:01 pm
@stormersboy-261: okay will check it out….but I am a Keo Loyalist….dont blog elsewhere….and FFS …i HAVE TO PAY THE BILLS….kEO bad enough on my time..
19 Jan 2012, 16:03 pm
@grant10-262: It’s cool, they don’t talk nearly as much nonsense there as here.
I get my news quickest from Rugby365.com, my insights from ruggaworld and my fun from Keo,
It’s a horses for courses approach.
19 Jan 2012, 16:04 pm
@grant10-262: Speaking of, how’s bishnish?
Keeping the wolves from the door?
19 Jan 2012, 16:07 pm
@Morné-253:
It’s all AAA grade kak.
However I see Grantie has already selected his coaching team as a result.
On your head be it.
Yip yap.
19 Jan 2012, 16:09 pm
@stormersboy-264: yeah…great November….average type Dec…..good first half Jan….
and your side?
19 Jan 2012, 16:11 pm
@stormersboy-263: ja…
Planet rugby also good…
I scour them all the time when not busy…love the breaking news, etc
applaud Saru for keeping this bok coach thing under wraps…very secretive …all cloak and dagger stuff….makes for good theatre and speculation
19 Jan 2012, 16:11 pm
Plus, and this is a major selling point for me.
All the cool emoticons and stuff.
19 Jan 2012, 16:12 pm
@grant10-266: Busier than a Brothel on Payday.
Need to get better direction this year though.
19 Jan 2012, 16:14 pm
Kak man, the main reason anyone hangs out here on keo is because of the unashamed ET/Shaun/Capo bashing that is allowed to go on, despite being frowned upon by the UN and Bono. I mean, if you find a good dwarf tossing bar, why on earth go somewhere else?
19 Jan 2012, 16:18 pm
@stormersboy-261: ruggaworld is virtually dead. boring place.
19 Jan 2012, 16:18 pm
@>^..^< katman-270: As I said, this is where i have my fun.
And hone (read: steal) my witty one liners and comebacks for other situations in life.
19 Jan 2012, 16:19 pm
Unrelated, but interesting. Not looking to start a debate, just passing on someone else’s research and pov.
http://w w w.ohio.edu/sportsafrica/journal/Volume5/snyders.html
http:// .co.za/index.php/inductees/2007/cricket/120-goolam-abed
19 Jan 2012, 16:21 pm
@Transformation-271: The articles are better than Keo, but the comments section is not as entertaining. That’s not their fault though. Keo panders to the lowest common denominator and there’s a bit of jerry Springer in all of us.
Especially the opinion pieces, not the daily reporting, much of the stuff we read on all the blogs are not much different. They all get the stuff from the same press releases.
19 Jan 2012, 16:27 pm
@stormersboy-269: yeah…all about goal setting…strategy planning…add commitment…and we beat this farken crdeit crunch…1 deal at a time
19 Jan 2012, 16:27 pm
@stormersboy-274: that’s like saying morne is more knowledgeable than JC/Ryan/Keo – a no-brainer.
Boertjie & Bryce_in_Oz just copy & paste.
19 Jan 2012, 16:29 pm
@>^..^< katman-270:
zigactly.
clubbing the intellectual cripples and emotional seals of keo can hardly be described as sport.
but for entertainment it ranks right up there with watching the kardashian sisters oil wrestling.
19 Jan 2012, 16:32 pm
@stormersboy-258:
it looked so good and was pretty mesmerising, had instant thoughts of ‘hier kom n ding’ and ‘die vonke gaan spat’ the minute he started flashing his disco light code from the stadium rooftop…
no i do not wear cowboy boots, am a fan of safety boots for any occasion though (they come in very fashionable styles these days).
somehow i always pictured et as a cowboy boot wearing limp wristed metrosexually type, with the usual ‘big on the mouth’ but ‘small on the macho’ attitude that goes with that type of boot wearing cowboy.
19 Jan 2012, 16:40 pm
@Transformation-271:
@Transformation-276:
You do like to insult don’t you.
Prrick
19 Jan 2012, 16:40 pm
@au revoir mon tout noirs, au revoir…-278:
et wears veldt shoes.
did you know they were invented by the xhoisan?
and crocs on the west coast.
19 Jan 2012, 16:47 pm
@the artist formerly known as gunther-280:
i dont think the xhoisan even wore shoes let alone veldskoene.
i do picture him in crocs, yes, and cowboy boots maybe.
not so sure about veldskoene, but ja, it could work.
19 Jan 2012, 16:51 pm
@Mr Black-279:
schweeeet
19 Jan 2012, 16:58 pm
@the artist formerly known as gunther-280:
ET is the original hipster.
19 Jan 2012, 16:58 pm
A song comes to mind reading this thread “The Boys are back in town”
19 Jan 2012, 17:00 pm
@WP Till I Die-283:
more like et the original hip-replacer.
19 Jan 2012, 17:02 pm
@Transformation-271: Ruggaworld is a fantastic site, with very informed guys, you could learn a lot from them and its would be a great place for you to copy and paste from.
19 Jan 2012, 17:02 pm
This posted earlier in the day on gallo images. The caption read something to the effect of Rassie being photographed for his new role with SARU. No details of the role though. Seems the captions were changed later. Guess all bets are off then?
galloimages. co.za/event/rassie-erasmus-portrait-session-non-subscription/146118
19 Jan 2012, 17:02 pm
@Transformation-282:
So is that what you’re going for?
Gato!
19 Jan 2012, 17:04 pm
@Treehugger-286: been blogging there for a year and a half, so you’re late
19 Jan 2012, 17:04 pm
It would explain his posts.
Providing substance to your arguments is too mainstream.
And he’s in Philadelphia just to be ironic.
19 Jan 2012, 17:05 pm
In fact, ET was an activist way before it was cool.
19 Jan 2012, 17:05 pm
@Transformation-289: now I know where you get your good stuff from lol.
19 Jan 2012, 17:07 pm
@WP Till I Die-291: How are your plums after the grating ? lol.
19 Jan 2012, 17:10 pm
@Mr Black-288: what are you on about?
and hey IW, next time you see me “face to face” you should call me a “prrick”
19 Jan 2012, 17:10 pm
The only thing that is active about ExTraball is his imagination.
19 Jan 2012, 17:11 pm
@Treehugger-292: nope, not from there
19 Jan 2012, 17:12 pm
@the artist formerly known as gunther-295: and his bowels.
if the report from the herald is to be believed.
19 Jan 2012, 17:14 pm
@Transformation-297:
We did warn him against 25-year-old Pinotage…
19 Jan 2012, 17:15 pm
@Transformation-297: Was that the report about Captain ET’s log scaring the tannies in the shallow end?
19 Jan 2012, 17:16 pm
@>^..^< katman-299: yeah, that one…brown floaters
yuck!
19 Jan 2012, 17:16 pm
@Transformation-294:
will do!
Now say sorry to Morne……..
19 Jan 2012, 17:16 pm
@>^..^< katman-299:
He pretended he was a submarine and concentrated so hard on deploying his periscope that he accidentally flooded his tube and fired a torpedo.
19 Jan 2012, 17:17 pm
@Mr Black-301: sorry, on keo?
hehehe
19 Jan 2012, 17:20 pm
handbags..?..
19 Jan 2012, 17:21 pm
@Transformation-303:
Ok, cant argue that point.
19 Jan 2012, 17:22 pm
@WP Till I Die-302: I commend his commitment though. Most people would have given up on that last lap. Not our ET. He’s the aquatic equivalent of this oke: http://skinnyrunner.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/runner-poop-pants.jpg
19 Jan 2012, 17:24 pm
@>^..^< katman-306:
Now this is what I call commitment.
19 Jan 2012, 17:25 pm
@Treehugger-286: those muddfukking ja p ba star ds injured my mate hugs.
they fekking threw a grappling hook at him.
fuckers.
i hope their boat sinks.
19 Jan 2012, 17:25 pm
“Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!”
19 Jan 2012, 17:28 pm
now i will have to buy him beers and listen to his endless stories of “when i was in the antarctic fighting whalers..”
http://www.iol.co.za/dailynews/news/sa-man-hurt-in-whaler-tussle-1.1215907
theres the link for anyone interested.
ag i am joking, a brave man and a good cause, proud to know the guy.
19 Jan 2012, 17:31 pm
One thing is for sure though, Extrabollock’s lap times improved significantly after deploying his brown shark.
19 Jan 2012, 17:49 pm
Spend the day earning a decent living, cleansing your soul and firming your fists up in the orange plantations and the cowardly Jack Russell’s yap away at you in abstencia, I see.
Pakis made my day though…. Belly, Trotty, Cookey, Broadey, Swanney and the boys blown away… bewtiful!
19 Jan 2012, 17:52 pm
@au revoir mon tout noirs, au revoir…-278: Woprker boots are cool.
I still have a pair or two from my “Soundgarden” days.
The cowboy boots was in reference to a (probably) at least 15 year old advert for the “new’ (then) Toyota bakkie called the “raider”
Guy dived up to the farm. Gets out. Farmer walks towards the bakkie and says in his thick afrikaans accent:
“Rrrrrrrrrraiderrrrrrr”. What kind of a name is that for a bakkie? next you’ll be wearing cowboy boots,
Driver surreptitiously moves behind the bakkie for cover. Looks down at his feet. He’s wearing cowboy boots.
Classic advert.
I still quote the line as you have just seen.
19 Jan 2012, 17:53 pm
dived = drives
19 Jan 2012, 17:55 pm
@the artist formerly known as gunther-311: We all know black okes can’t swim.
ET is full of it. He’s no more a swimmer than a doctor.
19 Jan 2012, 18:00 pm
Okay folks SARU released an official statement asking to ignore the Rassie speculation – they have also stated that they seek an explanation from Gallo Images who started the whole thing – Rassie himself also confirmed there is no truth in it. So as your were so to speak…
I just know someone at Gallo is going to lose their job!
19 Jan 2012, 18:01 pm
Shiver me timbers stormersahoy.
Captain Extraball won’t like that one bit.
Prepare to be boarded.
19 Jan 2012, 18:05 pm
@Morné-316: must be true though…unless a really sick stupid prank?
19 Jan 2012, 18:05 pm
@Morné-316:
Is it true that Morne = Pissant.
If so, why the change? Pissant has a nice ring to it
19 Jan 2012, 18:06 pm
Div: SARU too late with decision
Johannesburg – Springbok coach Peter de Villiers says the SA Rugby Union (SARU) left the appointment of the new national coach too late.
De Villiers’s contract was extended until the end of January while SARU completed the process of finding his replacement.
“It is already too late for the coach to sit down with the Super Rugby coaches,” De Villiers said on Thursday.
“The appointment should have been made in December because we didn’t have an overseas tour this time.”
He said the new Bok coach would not have enough time with the team before the start of the three-match Test series against England.
The Super Rugby season will recess for the June international matches, with the Boks playing the English Roses a week after a gruelling weekend of local derby matches.
Speculation about his replacement had been rife in recent weeks. No formal shortlist had been made public.
SARU, however, last year confirmed De Villiers was on the shortlist, while Bulls director of rugby Heyneke Meyer and Ireland forwards coach Gert Smal were touted as favourites.
De Villiers confirmed a meeting with SARU CEO Jurie Roux on Monday where they “spoke about this and that”, adding that he did not know whether he was a candidate for the job or not.
While doubting whether SARU had any interest in him, he said he was open to take the reins in a caretaker capacity.
“There is always a bigger picture and one should not be egotistical. It will always be an honour to make a contribution,” De Villiers said.
De Villiers, however, said SARU pulled the rug from under his feet with the extension of his contract.
“Now there isn’t any other work out there. Perhaps it would be better to say that they would no longer be making use of my services. It creates certain expectations,” he said.
The Bok mentor said there were no regrets in his tenure as national coach, which spanned four seasons.
“Hours of planning and consultation went into the job… .I can say with complete sincerity that every single decision I have made in the last four years has been a rugby one.
“That is why it has been easy for me to make them without any agendas. It is true that one doesn’t always make the right decisions, but I have taken responsibility for it.
“You can’t satisfy everybody, but I can keep my head high as I haven’t enriched myself.”
De Villiers felt the amount of talent he had brought through was a feather in his cap, with players like Tendai “Beast” Mtawarira, Zane Kirchner, Heinrich Brüssow, Francois Hougaard, Andries Bekker and Morné Steyn making their debuts under him.
“If I can give one medal to myself, it is the one for giving young talent the opportunity, who will now make the core of the team for the future.”
De Villiers said the Super Rugby recess would give the new coach a different challenge as it was a crucial stage of the cross-continental competition.
He said if the franchises stood a chance of advancing to the playoffs they would be reluctant to release their players to the Springbok team.
De Villiers suggested that injuries could easily be feigned to keep the players out of the June internationals.
He also felt the franchises held too much power and had made life difficult for him.
19 Jan 2012, 18:06 pm
@rangerman-308: I know, I was looking for you online earlier this morning to let you know the j*ps nailed him with a grappling hook, They were throwing them at the rubber digys, tosserssssssssssss.
19 Jan 2012, 18:08 pm
@grant10-318:
It came off the back of a Rapport article over the weekend where they speculated Rassie will be in the mix – the images for that interview was taken by Gallo. Then some dude at Gallo today stated it as fact and the phones went off the hook!
@Bod-319:
It is dude, I must just get to the dashboard again and change it – I must say it is quite strange seeing this name with posts on this blog…!
19 Jan 2012, 18:08 pm
@stormersboy-315: oh feckkkkk you going to get now…….
19 Jan 2012, 18:09 pm
@Treehugger-321: oh didnt know it had made the local papers.
19 Jan 2012, 18:15 pm
@Morné-322:
Vale… for a moment I thought you were trying to reform from those days of lunch time braai’s in Namibia with a crate of beers next to the coals… hence losing the rather apt nic.
Stick with it!
19 Jan 2012, 18:25 pm
@Bod-325:
Done!
It’s just not the same, I agree – too many memories associated with the nick.
19 Jan 2012, 18:40 pm
@PissAnt-326:
Welcome back PA.
19 Jan 2012, 19:20 pm
@the artist formerly known as gunther-317:
Boarded? More like bored. We’ll have to sit through a long winded post about SCIENCE and RACISTS and stuff like that.
Yawn.
@Treehugger-323: ET couldn’t “give” if his life depended on it,
He’s a taker is our Doctor Do-litlle.
The less spoken about him the better.
19 Jan 2012, 19:22 pm
@PissAnt-326: You had me guessing for a while there with the whole Morne thing.
I was just warming to it, like Beyonce, or Prince…..
19 Jan 2012, 19:26 pm
@Mr Black-327:
Thanks!
@stormersboy-329:
19 Jan 2012, 19:33 pm
Don’t you people ever work
19 Jan 2012, 19:36 pm
@Dawn-331:
Not much no.
19 Jan 2012, 19:42 pm
I want a job where I can blog all day
19 Jan 2012, 19:53 pm
@Dawn-331: I never call what I do “work”
It’s a passion
19 Jan 2012, 20:10 pm
@Dawn-331: who is ‘you people’ uyasiqhela?
19 Jan 2012, 20:49 pm
You people. Youse.
19 Jan 2012, 20:57 pm
Morne Steyn had an acting bit part in The Wild this evening …wtf…lol… as bad as Kobus Wiese as a thug in Robin Hood while was in France
19 Jan 2012, 21:05 pm
Julle mense wat blog whole day. You know!
19 Jan 2012, 21:10 pm
We so busy we can’t move our gatte!
19 Jan 2012, 22:09 pm
So much coziness…
Farkenell
20 Jan 2012, 00:47 am
Ok. What I read sovar
AC said no
Small is with the drinkers until after 6 nations
Heineke with bulls
Rassie nowhere
And Div maybe 6 months extension
Man I love SA rugby
20 Jan 2012, 01:51 am
One last thing
Sharks will be the best SA team (sharks academy now sposers this site)
Gert Smal WILL get the job
EP kings are the best (sorry Tramsie)
Pat Lambie is our no 10
The Lions are bankrupt
The Stormers are the best team this decade
The Stormers are the most popular team
The Roses will be a walkovers
20 Jan 2012, 01:57 am
@Atlas-342: you are getting delusional go to bed.
20 Jan 2012, 02:09 am
7 days to go
NO MORE SPIES……………………NO MORE MORNE
WE GOT RIDOF PLOD SO NO MEYER
BRING IN MY BOYFRIEND LUKE
You like the old AMtracks? Becouse I can go on and on…..
BRING BACK MY BOYFRIEND LUKE
20 Jan 2012, 02:18 am
@Transformation-343: sorry but you used a word the OP Kings use every day
20 Jan 2012, 02:23 am
WE NEED A CLEAN SLATE
SORRY CAPS
20 Jan 2012, 02:47 am
While I,m alone I can just aswell say exemt the cool NZlander, I am exstreemly proud to be RsAfrican during the WC. We were cool and we got along. Poops convince me abouit the Blues one evening last year.ek wens ek kon die selfde doen met my span
20 Jan 2012, 03:10 am
Woeever wins the SA side of things will go a lang way
I think there will be two teams
Keo pushess for Sharks and his babies Stor$mers
I am the class half empty when it comes to those 2 teams
20 Jan 2012, 03:24 am
I,M gonna use
20 Jan 2012, 03:31 am
Or. ::)
20 Jan 2012, 03:44 am
Your (Keo and his minions) love the Stormers
Heineke hused you’re ‘stories’ to agro the team since 2007
Keo a Buills fan my gat
20 Jan 2012, 04:00 am
You bastedts. I want to know more about my tours to NZ and Aus.
Now I must rely on Gunter
God help us all
20 Jan 2012, 04:14 am
Lambie staying at 10 is the best thing for Bok rugby. Of all the young guns in contention he has it most where it counts the most – between the ears.
20 Jan 2012, 04:29 am
@Bok fan-139: That would be sick! Frans must get back to SA. I worry about his conditioning in the NH. Should get used to playing at the higher tempo of SH rugby. I think at no.10 the Boks will be covered this year. Positions that concern me more are 11 and 14. Habs is past it. JPP doesn’t seem to care and Ndungane is just way too slow.
20 Jan 2012, 04:39 am
@grant10-165: Who are these stalwarts? Bakkies will be the only player the Boks will miss. Hopefully will get Smith back. Juan is one of the most important players for the Boks. He increases go-forward by at least 25%. Schalk may still have some uses but he’s got nothing between his ears. Alberts should be Bok 8 in my opinion. This year if we have made the right choice for Bok coach we might actually end up with a pretty decent Bok team. Frans Steyn for me is the answer at 12. There’s a lot of youth coming through. Its exactly what we need right now.
It’s the wingers that worry me. SA doesn’t have any decent wingers maybe apart from Mvovo and Aplon. We have a crisis in this position. Wingers have been forgotten about. They are key to playing attack rugby. In SA wingers seem to be like fillers. Just there to get 15 men on the field. This is where we need the x-factor, right now we have a serious shortage.
20 Jan 2012, 07:47 am
@Sydney Bok-355: good post mate….
Yeah …I THINK bAKKIES MAY BE THE BIGGEST LOSS, ALTHOUGH gUTHRO TOO been playing brilliant rugby for boks….
The rest we can cover…..A Bekker was ready to take over from Matfield [ must stay fit though ].
Key wil be new coach ditching Spies and M Steyn, if that doesent help I am afraid we will struggle again…
20 Jan 2012, 07:48 am
Must of been an intern at Gallo that did that ish!
20 Jan 2012, 07:53 am
@Sydney Bok-355: True. There are some good young wingers but they lack experience even on superugby level.
My choices would be JP, Aplon, Mvovo, Basson.
20 Jan 2012, 10:03 am
@Sydney Bok-354: Ja the guys dont look good whenever they back from France, imagine Steyn back at the Sharks playing with Lambie for a full super 15
Yes Hababa should have gone a few years ago. JPP has some insane talent but like you say his attitude is very up and down. Maybe a shift to 15 would help?
20 Jan 2012, 10:38 am
Nice try ….
I happen to know for a fact that Patrick Lambie has a terrible shoulder AC that needed operating on a while back already.
His shoulder is OFF and he is due a lengthy lay off as soon as it explodes finally.
A real pity …
20 Jan 2012, 10:50 am
Bok fly half will be Elton Jantjies when PL breaks down.
20 Jan 2012, 11:57 am
@dr dre-360: Seriously? Thats the worst news Ive heard in a long time.
20 Jan 2012, 13:21 pm
1.Beast
2,Bizzie
3.Jannie
4.Bakkies
5.Bekker
6.Brussow
7.Smith(c)
8.Alberts
9.Hougaard
10.Lambie
11.Habana/Mvovo
12.F.Steyn
13.De Jongh
14.JPP
15.Aplon
20 Jan 2012, 13:27 pm
@Bok fan-362: No jokes mate. Worst news for me too.
He is a ticking time bomb. Same injury that Fourie Du Preez had
20 Jan 2012, 13:47 pm
Side to face England in June:
1. beast
2. bis
3 jannie
4 bekker
5 juan smith
6 brussow
7 schalk (c)
8 spies
9 hougaard
10 johan goosen
12 frans steyn (if available)
13 juan de jongh
14 jp pietersen
15 pat lambie
11 mvovo
subs oosthuizen, ralapelle, mostert (if available), alberts, charl mcleoud, sadie, aplon
Build with that to next RWC and good things will happen.
20 Jan 2012, 15:49 pm
@mshiniwami-363: Now thats a Bok team
20 Jan 2012, 15:49 pm
@mshiniwami-363: Except Habana
20 Jan 2012, 15:58 pm
1. Beast
2. Bismarck
3. Jannie
4. Flip
5. Bekker
6. Brussouw
7. Smith
8. Burger (c)
9. Hougaard
10. Jantjies
11. Mvovo
12. F.Steyn
13. de Jongh
14. JPP
15. Lambie
16. Chiliboy
17. CJ
18. Juandre Kruger
19. Alberts
20. Duvenage
21. Sadie
22. Aplon
20 Jan 2012, 23:14 pm
@Marino-365: Spies. WTF is he doing their. Don’t lose credibility by backing this mophie.
20 Jan 2012, 23:58 pm
and to think that the whinging Yappies had the gall to take the dole-bludging Kiwis to task over Wayne Barnes after RWC’07. Barnes allowed fwd-passes for a try, sent a man to the bin, and went 50mins without so much as a penalty. What 1-eyed self serving PrickBoks, coming up with BS conspiracy theories to mask the fact their team is sh*t.
“Rugby World Cup referee Bryce Lawrence will not be travelling to South Africa for the Super 15.
This follows the uproar over his handling of the South Africa-Australia World Cup quarter-final, won 11-9 by the Wallabies, and subsequent fears for his safety.
After the match, the Kiwi ref received email and Facebook threats, and was heavily criticised by Springbok captain John Smit and former World Cup final referee Andre Watson of South Africa.
Referees have received their match schedules for the Super 15, which starts on February 24, and Lawrence said he was not listed to control any games in the republic.
While part of him would have liked to have travelled to South Africa to deal with the criticism and get that over and done with, he could understand that Sanzar – which controls the three-nation contest – did not want a sideshow to detract from its tournament.
“In some ways I’d like to go and front it, but it’s not really my decision.”
Sanzar referees boss Lyndon Bray could not be reached for comment, but it is understood there were fears a fan might have tried to avenge South Africa’s quarter-final defeat.
In an interview with the Weekend Herald, Lawrence said he had been hurt by the extent of the fall-out over the way he controlled the match that put the Springboks out of the World Cup. He accepted that his performance warranted criticism, but he could not accept the implication that his performance was biased.
The conspiracy theory that a win for Australia gave New Zealand an easier road to the Webb Ellis Cup has gained credence in South Africa.
“I got quite a few threats, people telling me if I came to South Africa to watch my back because they’d take me out,” Lawrence said. “The thing that scared me most was that people would really believe I cheated deliberately and fixed the game.
“The thing I pride myself on the most is that I’m up front and honest. For people to say I didn’t referee the breakdown very well, that didn’t hurt at all.”
It was Lawrence’s handling of the breakdown, the most convoluted of rugby’s laws, that created the biggest upset.
The winner of the Referee of the Year title at this year’s New Zealand Rugby Awards conceded he took the wrong approach into the game.
With the benefit of hindsight, he said, he would have refereed the breakdown more “technically”.
Had he done so, Wallaby flanker David Pocock might have been penalised a couple of more times than he was – but he would have also earned a lot more penalties for his team, so dominant was he in that area.
21 Jan 2012, 10:45 am
@PrickBoks going South-370: Dont be such a BRYCEING prick.
21 Jan 2012, 11:52 am
all Yappies are whingers
21 Jan 2012, 14:11 pm
@PrickBoks going South-372: Is that you Tony Johnson?
21 Jan 2012, 21:59 pm
play Lambie Pambie at 10 and SA rugby stay stuck in the doldrums we been stuck in since Streauli, White, Smit and FdP stuffed Boks into reverse gear since 1999
Play Goosen at 10 and we start hitting forward momentum for the first time in 10 or 12 years. It is WAY overdue..!!!
22 Jan 2012, 00:44 am
your coach
your players
your referees
your Captain
your administrators
your fans
ALL
whingers
22 Jan 2012, 10:29 am
@PrickBoks going South-375:
You are a coward poopal69.
22 Jan 2012, 10:30 am
@ashampoopaloo-374:
You know farkall about rugby if you think Lambie should be our 15. Finished and klaar.
22 Jan 2012, 11:23 am
you’re a whinger too, Yappie
22 Jan 2012, 11:34 am
@PrickBoks going South-378:
You can’t spell. Yarpy is derived from ‘ya’ which derives from ‘ja’. Yappy is incorrect as your Kiwi mates will tell you. Yap is very different from yarp. I guess you misunderstood the origins.
We’re all astounded at your hit and miss and kinda feeling sorry for you.
22 Jan 2012, 12:23 pm
yap yap yap
you Yappies are all the same
you all WHINGE, even about being a Yappie
I aint a Kiwi
but thank God I aint a Yappie
the entire Planet knows when theyve been beaten by a superior opposition
not a Yappie tho
all they do is
WHINGE
and blame someone else
yap yap yap
goes the
whinging Yappie
24 Jan 2012, 14:09 pm
Might be good for the Bokke, not so sure about the Sharks though.
If they go with Michalak @ 10 and Lambie @ 12 they can drop a certain Meyer Bosman and win something for a change . . . .
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