Meyer to lean on Bulls brains
25 Jan 2012
Heyneke Meyer is expected to name John McFarland and Bazil Carzis as part of his management team when he is announced as Springbok coach on Friday.
Meyer has enjoyed a long and fruitful relationship with the duo at the Bulls. McFarland has served as a defence coach at the Pretoria franchise, while Carzis focused on the players’ conditioning. It’s believed that Saru chief Jurie Roux was at the Loftus Versfeld offices yesterday to discuss Meyer’s management team, and that these two are strong candidates to join Meyer in the Bok set-up.
McFarland may not, however, occupy the same position at the Boks that he does at the Bulls. It’s been rumoured in some circles that he could even take on the role of kicking coach. This all depends whether Saru is able to secure the release of defensive guru Jacques Nienaber from the Stormers.
Nienaber has worked wonders with the Cape franchise, who boast the best defensive record in Super Rugby over the past two seasons. Stormers head coach Allister Coetzee told this website two weeks ago that he was adamant his management team would remain intact, so it may take a great deal of persuasion on Saru’s part to ensure Nienaber’s services are secured for the Boks.
Coetzee denied Nienaber would leave after it came to light that Rassie Erasmus would be leaving the Stormers. Erasmus and Nienaber have formed a strong partnership at the Cheetahs and later at the Stormers, and it’s not crazy to suggest that Nienaber will follow Erasmus to wherever the latter chooses to settle in the near future. Erasmus denied that he had been offered a technical advisor post a couple of weeks back but there are fresh reports that Saru wants Erasmus on the management panel.
There have been several names thrown about as possible backline coach options. Paul Treu has enjoyed mixed success with the Bok sevens side, but his lack of coaching experience in 15s may count against him. Former Bok winger Pieter Rossouw is another candidate having worked with the Bulls in recent times.
What nobody seems to know is who will take control of the forwards. A source told this website that Victor Matfield may be brought in as a lineout consultant, but otherwise there has been speculation that Meyer himself may focus on the forwards as a whole, or that Erasmus could take charge in this department.
What is more than likely is that Meyer will choose to work with the people he knows and trusts. The Bulls management members are tight and have enjoyed a lot of success over the years, and Meyer may look to bring that through to the next level.
77 Comments
25 Jan 2012, 08:11 am
AC sounds like he is kukking himself.
eish da stormers are in trouble.
25 Jan 2012, 08:19 am
Take away Nienaber and Proudfoot and oucccccchhhhhhhhh!
One things for sure with HM though… he always surrounds himself with the best available…
Wonder who will be forced upon him?
25 Jan 2012, 08:21 am
Pieter Rossuow as backline coach – LOL – well intercepts will be covered …. Boks need an Aussie backline coach
25 Jan 2012, 08:23 am
some concern for the bulls too.
the men they are losing need replacing and hopefully they make good decisions on the replacements.
25 Jan 2012, 08:27 am
Divvy for Bulls defensive coach.
BTW what is a Bulls article doing on Keo?
Ridiculous.
25 Jan 2012, 08:28 am
how much more they need to focus on defence is questionable. surely they have learnt enough from Nienaber over the last few seasons and realise it’s time to start focusing on attack.
25 Jan 2012, 08:30 am
Victor is the greatest.
25 Jan 2012, 08:32 am
Interesting how rugby coaches have become team managers more than hands on coaches. Pick the right support team and you get all the praise. Wrong picks and you suck as a coach.
Meyer’s first step should be to convince John Mitchell to be part of his team. He probably won’t but with all the Lion drama he may just consider.
25 Jan 2012, 08:35 am
@stew-3:
Actually pal when he was last in charge of the Bulls in 2007 when they scored the most tries in the competition (again)… it was the ‘outside of the box’ Aussie Todd Louden in charge of the backs…
25 Jan 2012, 08:38 am
@BuckT-6: That was clearly evident in the game against Aus in the WC – agree completely
25 Jan 2012, 08:39 am
Wonder how many would complain if the brought Ricardo Loubscher back as his back-line coach?
25 Jan 2012, 08:41 am
There are going to be no coaches left in South Africa if if all these journos are to be believed
25 Jan 2012, 08:47 am
@bryce_in_oz-9:
has louden kicked on since ‘he showed the bulls how to score’ in 2007?
25 Jan 2012, 08:49 am
@the artist formerly known as gunther-7:
With John Eales and then Martin Johnson very close behind.
25 Jan 2012, 09:11 am
@BuckT-6:
Morning Gentlemen and Gunther
Nice to see you are still alive Buck…
25 Jan 2012, 09:25 am
Meyer to lean on Bulls brains? I hope the guy can levitate.
25 Jan 2012, 09:52 am
I would like to see Heyneke Meyer as head and forwards coach, with a decent backline assistant coach in the mould of Eddie Jones. Then we can get Nienaber as the 2nd assistant to work on our defensive (F uck the Stormers, they’re already going downhill). That would be more than adequate. All these specialists coaches in different aspects of the game just confuses things.
25 Jan 2012, 09:59 am
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Big Vic to join Bok Dream Team?
Tue, 24 Jan 2012 21:36
Is Victor Matfield eyeing a Bok job? (c) Gallo
Retired Springbok lock Victor Matfield may be the next big name to be added to Heyneke Meyer’s coaching Dream Team.
This website has reliably learnt that intense behind-the-scenes negotiations are underway to add the name of Matfield to an already impressive list of backroom staff that could also feature John McFarland, Jacques Nienaber, Rassie Erasmus, Paul Treu and Basil Carzis.
While the announcement of the new Bok coach, to replace Peter de Villiers, won’t be made till Friday, it is the country’s worst kept secret that Meyer has raced so far clear it has become a no-contest.
And with the South African Rugby Union’s brainstrust set to rubberstamp his appointment at a series of meetings on Thursday and Friday, the debate has now shifted to who will join Meyer’s backroom staff.
Matfield has made no secret of the fact that he did not want a foreign coach to take charge of the Boks, and late last year told this website that Meyer taught him everything about rugby.
“He installed everything [I know] and the way I look at rugby. It is difficult to compare other coaches to him because Heyneke got me as a youngster and made me,” he told this website in an interview to mark the Cape Town launch of his book, Victor: My Journey.
“I worked very well with Frans [Ludeke, the current Bulls coach], whereas Heyneke ‘formed’ me as a rugby player. I enjoyed both coaches.”
With Meyer set to be the Boks’ head coach, Matfield could easily be fast-tracked from a part-time Bulls advisory position to a full-time post on Meyer’s team.
The outcome of some boardroom battles in the next few days will determine if Meyer gets his Dream Team – with the Bulls and Stormers administrators becoming very wary over the expected exodus of coaching intellect from their franchises.
The intense behind the scenes negotiations will also determine if respected coaching gurus like Nienaber and McFarland will be released by their unions.
It is understandable that the Stormers would not be happy to lose the expertise of a Nienaber just a couple of weeks after Erasmus walked out on them.
The loss for the Bulls camp could be much more devastating – McFarland, Carzis and Matfield.
The other coaches on SARU’s list of “preferred candidates” – which at the outset contained the names of Meyer, De Villiers, Allister Coetzee and Gert Smal – may wonder why they have not been afforded the opportunity to assemble such a prestigious squad and simply had to accept SARU’s terms?
However, there is a train of thought that SARU are merely repaying Meyer for the great injustice he was done four years ago, when De Villiers was appointed ahead of him in controversial fashion.
Dispatches from Newlands now suggest that Coetzee was dropped from that SARU ‘shortlist’ without anybody actually speaking to him.
At least De Villiers was afforded the courtesy of an informal chat with SARU CEO Jurie Roux, when the message was loud and clear: “There will be no extension for Divvy.”
By Jan de Koning
25 Jan 2012, 10:15 am
@the artist formerly known as gunther-7:
I believe that was R.Kelly. He even sang a song about it.
25 Jan 2012, 10:20 am
@Bod-15: been enjoying your stories from up north, although at some point i thought you may have consumed a near fatal dose of spanish wine and thought we might lose you to the spanish el interior, never to be heard or seen of again… did you visit costa del golf or were you trying to avoid the Andalucian tourist traps? when are you returning home?
25 Jan 2012, 10:20 am
maak al die bulle bok afrigters
Mcfarland, Carzis, Matfield, Erasmus, Nienaber, Treu
Wtf will Meyer actually be called to do?
Way too top heavy collection of top brass groot kanonkop big chief bottle washers all for a g’dam rugby team. Who in heavens name gonna pay all the salaries?
Meyer’s so kak bang he may not be all that he’s been touted to be that he’s now surrounding himself with a bevy of behemoth bulletjie brains to do all the butt kicking and coaching
This business is outa sync with reality, this is a pastime sporting enterprise for leisure time weekend participation not an all out assault on the Pentagon.
25 Jan 2012, 10:26 am
F’ing great.
First he brings his entire coaching team from the Bulls with him…
Next he’ll bring all the Bulls players in as well…
Get used to seeing Dean Greyling, Deon Stegmann, Dewald Potgieter, Jacques Potgieter, Pierre Spies, Morne Steyn, Wynand Olivier, Bjorn Basson & Zane Kirchner as Springbok regulars.
Werner Kruger might even be in with a good shot at making it.
25 Jan 2012, 10:26 am
And so the Bullification of the Boks begins…
25 Jan 2012, 10:29 am
@Bod-15:
come now.
those oranges won’t pick themselves.
25 Jan 2012, 10:30 am
Jean de Villiers may have his critics…. but he’s still a better test 12 then Wynand Olivier, by far.
Now we’re going to have Wynand as a probably sure-thing… Heyneke will not have learnt from other coaches mistakes – will be too arrogant thinking he knows better.
And we’ll have Frans at fullback being asked to launch up-and-unders.
Why oh why could it not have been Gert Smal.
25 Jan 2012, 10:31 am
@>^..^< katman-16: expect a few brain teazers
25 Jan 2012, 10:33 am
Always thought the Bulls were all brawn…. Hope he knows that as Springbok coach he is allowed to pick players from outside the Pretoria region….
25 Jan 2012, 10:36 am
@BuckT-20:
At 1 Euro for a bottle of the really good stuff, there is always a danger that I will overdose on some of the region of La Rioga’s finest.
No golf yet, just a hell of a lot of mountain biking and exploring. I am delaying the return as long as I can go without the need to rejoin the corporate world…
25 Jan 2012, 10:36 am
The provincial xenophobes out in full.
Meyer is doing a kuk job before he has even been announced.
PissAnt was right, he was mad to take the job.
25 Jan 2012, 10:40 am
@hendrikp-22: @the artist formerly known as gunther-24:
I am all orange picked out….
And I have huge festering calluses on my knuckles….
25 Jan 2012, 10:40 am
@ashampoopaloo-21: @hendrikp-22: @line break-27: So you guys are complaining about a team that will only be picked in 6 months time by a coach that has not been appointed yet?
25 Jan 2012, 10:41 am
1 Euro a bottle “for the really goods stuff”……
everything is relative I suppose.
I’m sure it beats Tassies.
25 Jan 2012, 10:43 am
@Bod-30:
Sorry Hendrikp…. I was about to comment on your comment when Gunther sidetracked me.
As bad as it is, I have broad shoulders and I can take most of those selections on the chin, except for that of ol Zane, as whenever I see his same anywhere near the Bok set up, I truly want to give up the will to live
25 Jan 2012, 10:44 am
@RedMan-29:
If he doesn’t select any more then say… 6 or 7 Bulls… rather then 14 or 15 (which I’m predicting), then I’ll change my tune.
Until then he’s a well known provincial xenophobe himself.
25 Jan 2012, 10:45 am
de Villiers made two fundamental lousy mistakes as he set out, one was listening to the likes of Oberholzer and Keohane to go fetch a has been glory boy John Smit and then subsequently make every excuse under the sun thereafter to accommodate him somewhere in the front row which ultimately is the very core of the reason for De Villiers failure, and second he had a useless pair of assistants like Muir and Gold thrust on him.
Added to this his ultimate reliance on the Einstein Rassie at the eleventh hour to steer him out the ditch didn’t bring much relief to his shaky foundation either, they still started Smit, (and FdP and Spies) in spite of recent history proving that this recipe was a collapse in the offing, and Rassie was the architect of the Burger to first receiver and midfield ball carrying specialist role which bombed badly.
25 Jan 2012, 10:48 am
@the artist formerly known as gunther-32:
Looking at your grammar, it appears that you have already swallowed two litres of Tassies this morning
25 Jan 2012, 10:52 am
The Bulls already have too much of a strange-hold on Springbok rugby.
Despite not making the CC semi-finals, and having a poor SR season, they were sending out teams that were made up of mostly Springboks… players like Basson, Stegmann, Potgieter, Greyling, Kruger, Spies & Side-show Bob Kirchner who just don’t cut it.
That will be even worse under Heyneke. Forget about the best being selected… it’ll be the best, from Pretoria.
25 Jan 2012, 10:55 am
Actually, owe HM a bit of gratitude. Think he was in charge of the Stormer s forwards during their infamous 1999 Men in Black campaign as assistant to Alan Solomons… Those were the days before the light five…. Quite interested to see who the assistants will be and also their roles…. Best coaching staff of recent years probably Henry,Hansen and Smith( although a few B&I Lions management teams may have something to say about that), Think Hansen saw to forwards , Smith to backs and Henry to the defence……So should be interesting….
25 Jan 2012, 10:57 am
@ashampoopaloo-35: ag shampies.
so none of it was his doing eh?
how convenient
let me guess, the hutus massacred the tutsis because of the french colonial era too?
divvy himself would probably tell you to stop embarrassing him you freakshow
25 Jan 2012, 11:00 am
@hendrikp-37: when the sharks and the bulls dominated the boks, we brought home a world cup.
remember?
25 Jan 2012, 11:00 am
@hendrikp-37:
dry your eyes there’s a good girl.
why don’t you wait and see before deciding that the sky is going to fall on your head?
25 Jan 2012, 11:01 am
The Bulls directors are not happy letting Heyneke go as is.
I can’t see a way in hell they will release anyone else. In fact, I only expect Heyneke’s name to be confirmed on Friday.
25 Jan 2012, 11:03 am
@Bod-30:
festering knuckles?
stop dragging them along the ground then.
25 Jan 2012, 11:04 am
@PissAnt-42: they seemed all too happy to let him go overseas though?
so what do your sauces tell you?
heyneke, rassie and naainoober and……..?
25 Jan 2012, 11:06 am
@rangerman-44:
The overseas stint was not as simple. Heyneke was ‘assured’ the Bok job at the time – we all know what happened.
Things between him and the Bulls at the time also weren’t rosy.
Bulls have invested quite a bit in him in the last year – he was suppose to be the architect of their return to dominance following the loss of a host of seniors.
25 Jan 2012, 11:07 am
I voted yes on the little opinion poll up above that Meyer was the right man for the job. As things stand he is by far the best candidate we got, way better than Rassie or Smal or Coetsee
However I suspect Meyer is a bit of a shaky lone cowboy, when chips are down like when he couldn’t cut it at Leicester he needs a lot of bolstering support surrounding him, much like White needed Jones ultimately to prop him up.
Meyer will approach this thing from a directors armchair position and give certain autonomy to those he’s surrounding himself with, which at least is a more professional attitude and approach to the task, but my idea of a head coach is still in the hands on buck stops at the HC model and the specialist assistants should be there to fine tune the specific areas entrusted to them. Meyer might be more of a DOR and less of a coach, so it remains to be seen how his collection of specialist wingmen put this new idealism together.
Woe betide they don’t whack everything in sight out the park from first innings because expectations are rife for a top of the world ranking result
25 Jan 2012, 11:07 am
@rangerman-44:
It’s only Wednesday, and this is SA Rugby – but it seems like Heyneke will only draw on specialist consultants when needed.
25 Jan 2012, 11:09 am
@ashampoopaloo-46:
there was a specific reason for him leaving leicester that had nothing to do with rugby.
25 Jan 2012, 11:10 am
@PissAnt-45: oh well, my heart bleeds for them.
personally i am not on the “heyneke is our saviour” bandwagon.
he was one frans steyn coversion away from losing the s14 in 2007 and his sides have started to look decidedly average as the new rules have become more pervasive.
we heard he was wanting running rugby this year but under ludeke the bulls were a far more attacking side imo and they won TWO superrugby titles with ludeke as coach.
lets see what happens but i do think there will be an improvement from the current situation, i am simply not convinced that it will be as dramatic as many think.
25 Jan 2012, 11:13 am
@rangerman-49:
I said it before, I think he is stupid to take this job.
25 Jan 2012, 11:15 am
@rangerman-40:
Yes, back when they were also winning… when they had the countries best players.
That’s no excuse for the best players not being selected NOW.
25 Jan 2012, 11:15 am
@PissAnt-50: i said it before, we dont know who the coach is going to be but one thing is certain, we will f uk him up.
nature of the beast.
25 Jan 2012, 11:21 am
nobody said anything about none of it was his fault, he was too naive to know from first out exposure that Smit, Gold and Muir, and ultimately Rassie had a hand in it too, were the architects of De Villiers inconsistency, in spite of which he came pretty close to success, all he had to do was shunt that useless palooka Smit out the start team who ultimately was the one ruined him.
Lets see Meyer with all his bevy of Bulls brain surgeons forge the way ahead.
He better deliver else his heralded messiah status gonna take a few knocks
25 Jan 2012, 11:29 am
Good players being ignored at the expense of Bulls players… that will P155 me off.
1. Dean Greyling will be ahead of Coenie Oosthuizen – shocking call.
2. Juandre Kruger will probably hold Andries Bekker out of the starting line-up.
3. Pierre Spies and one of the Potgieters will have the jump on better players like Duane Vermeulen… even Ashley Johnson better then those above. Even Schalk’s place in the team will probably be in doubt… have to make room for another of the Bulls pathetic loose-trio (easily the worst from the 5 SA teams).
4. Morne Steyn has kept his starting flyhalf position.
5. Wynand Olivier has a good chance at being the starting 12. Frans will again be stuck at fullback.
6. Zane Kirchner will be there ahead of Jaco Taute or Gio Aplon.
7. Bjorn Basson to become the 1st-choice Springbok winger… until he makes a fool of himself that is.
25 Jan 2012, 11:30 am
Wow, Saffa supporters have to be the sourest bunch of grapes I’ve ever come across…. I swear this appointment has led to more grumbling about “knuckle dragging” and Pretoria cronyism than there were complaints 4 years ago when the much maligned PDiv was appointed…
For years we’ve had to listen to mutterings about how if Meyer was coach the cup would have been in Springbok hands again, well now there’s no excuse. ANy failure can no longer be put down to a political appointment, so man up and take some responsibility.
25 Jan 2012, 11:36 am
@hendrikp-54:
now you are talking out of your bum.
25 Jan 2012, 11:38 am
@ashampoopaloo-53: nice backpeddle with a tinge of finger pointing.
you sound like a loser and i am sure divvy doesnt want a loser speaking for him.
i wouldnt appoint you as spokesman for a mute.
25 Jan 2012, 11:48 am
@the artist formerly known as gunther-56:
Or not.
Whoops I forgot Pierre Spies will be Springbok captain.
What a joke.
25 Jan 2012, 11:49 am
De Villiers could have rather done with someone like me in his corner instead of those self seeking untouchable aura’s who ultimately are the ones who brought him down.
25 Jan 2012, 12:14 pm
@hendrikp-58:
you know all this how?
rather keep quiet if you are going to talk kuk.
last thing we need is another emo brokeback.
25 Jan 2012, 12:42 pm
@hendrikp-54: Ag nee hendrikp, die “p” is seker nie vir positief nie.
Heyneke is nie onnosel nie. Hy weet sekerlik dat hy gehang sal word as hy die Bulls bevoordeel en dan ‘n toets verloor.
1. Greyling is nes Coenie reeds ‘n Bok – niks met HM te doen nie
2. Selfs die blindes weet Bekker is die volgende Matfield. Kruger het potensiaal en mag die volgende Bekker word. Bekker sal hopelik beseringsvry bly.
3. Brussouw sal 6 speel, met Stegmann / Minnie sy understudies. Burger of Smith sal 7 wees en ja, Spies seker op 8. Ek stem dat Spies 50%+ beter moet speel as in 2011. Alberts sal HM se Danie Rossouw wees en dan is daar Vermeulen en Strauss.
4. As jou kop op die spel is, gaan jy ‘n ervare losskakel kies of ‘n youngster? Morne is in die saal en sy skopwerk baie goed. Sy verdediging was in WC darem beter, maar kort werk. Jantjes het in 2011 goed gedoen en as hy in die S15 voortgaan, sal hy beslis kans kry.
5. Wynand Olivier doen baie goed vir die Bulls, maar het nog min goeie wedstryde in die groentrui gehad. Sekerlik weet HM dit. Doppies le Grange is baie under rated. Jean en Juan sal die aanvanklike senters weees met iemand soos Waylon Murray / Johan Sadie buiteperde. As Jean de Villiers beseer is, is Wynand of Doppies die enigste uitweg op binne-senter.
6. Ek stem vir Jaco Taute. Zane is gemiddeld, maar veilig. HM hou van ‘n skoppende heelagter en daarom het Gio beter kans op vleuel. Riaan Viljoen kan by die Sharks ontpop en daar is nof Francois Steyn ook – my no 1 keuse op binne-senter.
7. Bjorn Basson sal eers die Bulls se span moet haal. Oupa Akona se work rate is baie beter en dan is daar Hougaard wat imo ‘n beter vleuel as skrumskakel is. Moenie verbaas wees as Fourie du Preez vinnig terug kom nie – eers as kaptein en dan as speler.
Gee kans, die tyd sal leer………
25 Jan 2012, 12:53 pm
@hendrikp-54:
On current form NO Bulls loosies should be in the bok squad.
Ja these are some serious worries.
I hope Meyer can shock us all with some Ruthless Calls.
The should try add a clause in his contract.
25 Jan 2012, 12:58 pm
If that fuking Stegman gets called up again I will be moor befok, him and ******* Spies.
I have a feeling spies will up his game this year, but it wont be enough.
25 Jan 2012, 13:08 pm
@Tjokker-61:
Stegmann is fuuucking CUCK! Go look at he stats for turnovers he is at the bottom!
So if not for his so called pilfering what should he be there fore? He is definitely not a ball carrier..
Tell me wtf this oke has done to be seen as a bok, please i would like to see so i can have a clearer view of what the fuss is about?
25 Jan 2012, 13:11 pm
Zane ahead of Taute, FSteyn, Aplon or Lambie is a joke. No offence, he is a solid CC& SuperR player butt like WO tried and tested at test level with no success?
25 Jan 2012, 13:15 pm
Meyer must lay down the law fast and make his mark by being ruthless inselections.
He can start with droppig that fking showpony spies and leat players earn their way into the team.
If they deserve it and pove it in the Super 15 geate no problem. Spies will be selected thouh based on his CV/XP with boks and not his
performance, that is for absolute sertianty. Fore he reckord Have no problem eating these words if proven differently in the SUper 15 this year..
25 Jan 2012, 13:17 pm
@hendrikp-54:
**** me mate… you’re speaking as if this already happened… getting a bit ahead of yourself there…
Juandre Kruger for one was rubbish overseas and made no impact in the CC and now YOU reckon one of the best rugby brains in RSA, who has not even been appointed the coach yet, would drop Bekker for this guy…
No offence mate… Gunther is correct… you’re getting a tad ahead of your rump-us…
Spies and WO made the Bok squad for the last 4 years and it had ZERO to do with Heyneke Meyer…
Meyer worked with what he had at the Bulls… who is to say if he had JDV or Willem Alberts at his disposal per se… he would not have started them?
Calm down…
25 Jan 2012, 13:18 pm
fook this pc/keyboard it can’ keep up with my typing.
Come on Heyneke Meyer we challenge you – Be a ruthless Bas*ard in your selections. Even the bulls can only benefit from such a scenario.
25 Jan 2012, 13:19 pm
@bryce_in_oz-67:
Hope to faark you are right.
25 Jan 2012, 13:30 pm
I think you guys are selling heyneke short… and making one helluva lot of assumptions about him…
when asked before about who his captain would be no one could expect him to say burger or smith or whoever… obviously he is a bulls man… the bulls DOR… he would only name a bulls player… so spies it was…
and sure he’s backed a lot of the bulls players… but what else is he expected to do…? coach a team and always tel them he’d rather have other players…? he backed the players in the bulls set up as any other coach would back the players in their own set-up… nothing sinister there at all…
but anyone who thinks heyneke thinks that he had ALL the best players in SA in the bulls… is dreaming and/or letting their paranoia run rampant…
i don’t think he will have a bulls bias AT ALL… now he will have all the best players in SA at his disposal and as a rugby kenne he must be drooling at the thought of what he can do when he can pick and plan and direct all of the very best in the country to take on the world…
it’s every sa rugby supporters dream… to be THE bok coach… heyneke now has the chance to make his mark or world rugby history…
anyone who thinks he’s gonna stuff that up by clinging only to the players he coached in the bulls is really being daft and letting the provincial emotions get the better of them…
good things are gonna start happening in sa rugby… heyneke is gonna make sure of that…
let the rest of the world start worrying… now…!
25 Jan 2012, 13:55 pm
@Guns-64: Guns, may be you don’t understand what I wrote in Afrikaans. I did not praise Stegmann’s skills. I said that HM prefers to play a recognised fetcher and that Brussouw is surely the no 1 fetcher. At the Bulls HM always choose a fetcher, even Derick Kuün if Stegmann wasn’t available. Who else if Brussouw is injured? Minnie of the Lions or Stegmann.
Jacques Botes is in and out of the Sharks team. Daniel is not a real fetcher and Francois Louw is in France? Who else do you think is an international fetcher?
Remember that Heyneke was last involved with the Boks in +_ 2001. The present Boks in the Bulls were chosen by Jake White / PdV and the national selectors – where the Bulls has zero influence
25 Jan 2012, 13:59 pm
@ufo-70: Well said, and it is not science! But some people are just plain stupid.
25 Jan 2012, 14:07 pm
@Tjokker-72:
thanks man… yeah it’s not… but hell, in sa we struggle to take off our provincial coloured shades…
i’m very excited about everything and can’t wait for heyneke to start telling us his plans and vision for the boks…
i really believe the kiwis and aussies need to start worrying…
also like the fact that he is not an arrogant man…
25 Jan 2012, 14:09 pm
Instead of criticises Heyneke for nothing, rather criticise Allistar Coetzee for be so small minded. That is surely sour grapes. If the Boks need Nienaber as a defence coach (Stormers brag about his abilities) then release him to serve his country. The Bulls spent a lot of money to broaden HM views and knowledge.
25 Jan 2012, 14:12 pm
@Tjokker-74:
why criticize either unnecessarily…? they’re both good honest guys doing the best they can with the resources at their disposal…
25 Jan 2012, 15:30 pm
@ufo-73: We are shaking in our boots ! IMO i dont think he has the grunt up front but lets see
25 Jan 2012, 15:35 pm
@stew-76:
hehehe…
we shall see….
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