Stormers shut out Lions
27 Jan 2012
The Stormers kept the Lions tryless in their 28-6 victory at Newlands on Friday.
The Lions had the better of the territory initially and dominated the scrums for much of the contest, but struggled to use this platform to their advantage. Their lineout was also largely outplayed by that of the Stormers, and coach John Mitchell will be livid with the turnovers his side conceded in great attacking positions.
There were times when they excelled on defence, and Butch James brought his own brutish brand thereof to this warm-up fixture. Nevertheless, the Stormers managed to score three tries, the first via a patient build up through the phases. Gio Aplon struck soon after half-time with a breathtaking solo effort, and was on hand to finish a break by Gerhard van den Heever later in the match.
Typically, defence was the Stormers’ strongest attribute. They eventually conceded two yellow cards, one for De Kock Steenkamp and one for Aplon, and finished the game with 13 men, but still their defence managed to repel the Lions’ surge.
106 Comments
27 Jan 2012, 19:17 pm
Ok so where are the live updates?
27 Jan 2012, 19:22 pm
In the Jungle Oats
27 Jan 2012, 19:27 pm
Lions to take it!!
27 Jan 2012, 19:28 pm
Jinx2
27 Jan 2012, 19:53 pm
Ok there’s a thread thank dog
27 Jan 2012, 19:58 pm
Stormers on top
Etsebeth having a big game
So too Kolisi
Van Aswegen looking good except for two early dropped passes thereafter coming good
Joe Pietersen cool as a cucumber at back and getting all his kicks.
One clean break by JdJ but lost the final pass to JdV forward.
Stormers looking good overall, Kitchoff scoring only try off line out maul close to lions try line.
Otherwise Lions front 5 getting better of Stormers in set scrums with one tight head to show so far.
Mapoe and Taute looking good for Lions with Butch controlling traffic
Stormers had the better penetrating line movements into Lions territory so far.
Nice hard clean game thus far, Etsebeth looking the business at 4 and Kolisi looking good at 7
27 Jan 2012, 20:06 pm
Aplon just scythed through entire Lions defence to score 50 seconds into second half , first Pietersen conversion missed 18-6 Stormers
27 Jan 2012, 20:09 pm
Van Aswegen converts penalty for Butch head high no arms head butt on Kolisi 21-6 Stormers
Kolisi JdJ Pietersen subbed off
27 Jan 2012, 20:10 pm
tx for the updates mate, it is sickening not to see this game
27 Jan 2012, 20:11 pm
@ashampoopaloo-8:
thanks skop
27 Jan 2012, 20:14 pm
@ashampoopaloo-8:
Ouch!
THanks for updates!
27 Jan 2012, 20:19 pm
Lions must atleast score a try or two!! Would want to see van Aswagen and Jantjies head to head later this season..
27 Jan 2012, 20:20 pm
Aplon under the sticks after great play by shadow 28-6
27 Jan 2012, 20:36 pm
battery gone Robzim will have to fill you in Van de Heever broke down right wing to put Aplon away under sticks
Stormers cleaning up CC champs who cant crack Stormers resolute defence
21-6 Stormers Etsebeth subbed had first class first outing in senior side new no.4 been discovered
Koster off yellow card
27 Jan 2012, 20:47 pm
@ashampoopaloo-14:
Elstadt, Etsebeth, Bekker, Van Der Merwe, Mostert, Kruger.
Plenty to work with Matfield.
No need to put your boots back on.
Rather help Meyer refine these youngsters!
27 Jan 2012, 20:50 pm
8 min to play
burger Jdv off
Groom Francis Brache Poolman on
steenkamp yellow card
Stormers playing with 14 last 20 min tackling keeping Lions out
Habana off yellow card
Stormers down to 13
Last min 28-6 Stormers penalty Stormers Habana makes decision to go for sticks missed
27 Jan 2012, 20:54 pm
Koster, Steenkamp, Habana all yellow cards? Coetzee won’t be happy.
27 Jan 2012, 20:55 pm
@ashampoopaloo-16:
MOM candidates?
27 Jan 2012, 20:57 pm
This is not the Currie Cup anymore Lions, better shape up..
27 Jan 2012, 20:57 pm
FB has it as Geo off not Habana… Anyone know for sure?
27 Jan 2012, 20:59 pm
Welcome to the big league boys (lions)!
27 Jan 2012, 21:01 pm
dont need Matfield or Botha
Etsebeth Elstadt Vd Merwe Kruger Mostert and few others will fill those boots
Dont need Fdp or Fourie or Steyn
Enough quality in up and coming players to work with
Meyer will make biggest mistake if he succumbs to senior pressure. Let them go and build new
27 Jan 2012, 21:06 pm
Etsebeth Kolisi Aplon my Mom candidates
Aplon was sent off last min not Habana
27 Jan 2012, 21:07 pm
@ashampoopaloo-22:
Agreed for the most part.
But disagree about Frans Steyn, and possibly Jacques Fourie and Fourie Du Preez.
Frans Steyn though is without a doubt best possible candidate for Bok 12 jersey.
27 Jan 2012, 21:08 pm
@ashampoopaloo-23:
How did Habana and JDV fair?
27 Jan 2012, 21:13 pm
@ashampoopaloo-23:
Sorry for all the questions.
One more.
When Pieterson went off, whjo went to fullback? Aplon or VD Heever?
27 Jan 2012, 22:12 pm
Stormers 1, opposition Zilch
the Tobie Titus Useless Cup will find its resting place at Newlands
the world is @ equilibrium
27 Jan 2012, 22:29 pm
Let me be the first to congratulate the brokebacks for winning a warm-up match. You were the better team and deserved to win, I think. Anyway you are the DHL cup champs and well deserved champs.
Smell you guys when the real competition starts
Fark, note to myself … N O MORE JAGERMEISTERS … ever again.
27 Jan 2012, 22:37 pm
uhm katman and all you other lion freaks…what now? lol back to the drawing board?
But really now for those who were at the game….how was it?
Was the game closer than the scoreline suggests? Glad to see the Stormers are scoring tries.
27 Jan 2012, 22:39 pm
@BadGena-19: Yeah… it was a warmup match. Now put away the boner and get some perspective here. We’ve seen this movie before.
27 Jan 2012, 22:48 pm
@Tuna-30:
You mean Lions losing?
27 Jan 2012, 22:50 pm
@David-31: That and the hype already being generated by a few Breezers fans.
27 Jan 2012, 22:53 pm
@Tuna-32: Its just return serve to all the hype the Lions fans served up before this game.
27 Jan 2012, 22:56 pm
@Tuna-32:
C’mon, I don’t see any on this thread apart from a bit of banter.
27 Jan 2012, 22:56 pm
@Sasuke-33: It’s only a few and you should know by now it’s mostly tongue in cheek stuff from those guys.
27 Jan 2012, 22:58 pm
@David-34: Same here, just pulling some chains.
27 Jan 2012, 23:00 pm
@David-34: @Tuna-35: Ja i know all good fun….i cant wait for the Lions to knock over visiting teams
27 Jan 2012, 23:01 pm
Details on Van Aswegen’s game plz. I don’t want to see Grant in that blazer. Time to back the youth AC.
27 Jan 2012, 23:02 pm
Aplon went to FB when Pietersen went off Van der Heever went to right wing
Seemed to work because they combined well to create a try down right flank for Aplon’s 2nd
Warm up or not apart from Jantjies this was same Lions side that klapped Sharks to win the CC and it was not for lack of trying but all their attempts to breech Stormers defence came to nought even when Stormers were down to 14 or 13 men at the end.
Bondisio tried namely but Butch offered little creativity in midfield and Doppies was nullified by Kolisi, JdJ, Koster and Etsebeth got around the park to put some big hits on forwards and backs alike.
The great Lions revival caught a wake up tonight, Mitchell better realize the honeymoon of the CC fairy tale is over.
27 Jan 2012, 23:02 pm
Mitchell on Butch – We narrow on attack , we were rubbish on attack
27 Jan 2012, 23:11 pm
Van Aswegen started shaky dropped two early passes but thereafter grew from strength to strength and is not afraid to pull off tackles on players much bigger than him. Nice out of hand kicking game and fluid mid field general, only fear is if he got enough bulk to ward off big mother centers bearing down on him.
He took over kicking duties from Pietersen with aplomb after Pietersen sub and got all kicks bar one.
Long as his frail body can stay injury free he’s the best pivot option Stormers got, and between Goosen, Jantjies, Van Aswegen, Ebersohn, Pietersen, Lambie, who needs Steyn, Butch, or anyone other prehistoric model.?
27 Jan 2012, 23:12 pm
It was a pretty kak game all round but that’s what you get with a dozen subs. Lions couldn’t protect the ball and that was the main difference. Countless knock ons and turnovers. Another difference was Gio Aplon. He was dynamite on attack. And the Stormers defense was always fanned out and always accurate. For the Stormers Etsebeth and Aplon had great games. Kolisi, de Jongh, vd Heever were okay too. The Lions had little to crow about. Butch was kak. The rucks were kak. Lineouts were kak. The scrum was solid but we did nothing with the ball. Passing was kak. Strauss, Taute and Mapoe looked eager, but that was about it. Luckily Stormersboy was a gracious winner. Fokkit.
27 Jan 2012, 23:16 pm
Lions seem to be a complete zero without Elton… I hope his agent renegotiated his contract or is looking for alternatives. He might as well look overseas. Elton won’t smell a Bok jersey now that HM is coach.. I am sure that the Force or the Rebels need a General.
27 Jan 2012, 23:20 pm
@ashampoopaloo-39: Good win for Stormers.
But one cant read too much into it.. There were actually 7 players in the Lions team who played in the CC Final that didnt feature tonight.
CJ vd Linde, Murray, Jantjies, Hollenbach, Rhodes, Bezuidenhout and Wikus.
The team will be completely different on attack and defence.
27 Jan 2012, 23:24 pm
if I’m Heyneke I kiss all the has been JW circus good bye, every last one of them and start fresh
21 year old Etsebeth was the best lock and perhaps the best forward on the park tonight, Kolisi was great in the open loose, quite a handful. Minnie, Whitely and Strauss were subdued and ineffective against Stormers defence. Best Lions strike runner in forwards was their big No.4. Koster still has to work on his weak ball retention and his poor decisions to run away from his support. But he’s still a far better ball carry link man than Burger with good speed and effective running lines.
Butch is not the answer to Lions attack they needed Jantjies to spark some creativity.
27 Jan 2012, 23:24 pm
@youknowwho-43: I dont think HM will have a negative opinion on Jantjies. Remember that Morne Steyn was HM second choice flyhalf behind Hougaard. I would put money on that Hougaard will be back soon and and within two years be back in the Bok setup. You read it here first.
27 Jan 2012, 23:29 pm
@Chris4Lions-46: HM can’t think outside his prejudice. My view is that Jantjies will destroy HM… EJ will deliver the goods in the S15 and the whole world will see that HM is a twat for not selecting him..
I am going to be especially cruel in exposing HM.
27 Jan 2012, 23:36 pm
For someone who just dicovered who Heyneke Meyer is, youknowwho is quite opinionated.
27 Jan 2012, 23:36 pm
@youknowwho-47: We will just have to wait and see. I think EJ will get selected at 10 if he performes well in the S15 which i think he will, for his and my teams sake.
27 Jan 2012, 23:47 pm
@youknowwho-47: Aaaah, didn’t you beat this same drum regarding JM use of Jantjies last year? Some people never learn…… sad.
27 Jan 2012, 23:49 pm
@>^..^< katman-48: You seem to forgetting who kicks your bum all the time here on Keo. Remember that I am invincible and clever.. nobody knows more than me. Sometimes I surprise myself with my breathtaking genius
@Chris4Lions-49: I have seen it all already… history repeats itself
27 Jan 2012, 23:52 pm
Lions missed Hollenbach, Rhodes and Jantjies, maybe Wikus, but like the rest of the old men he’s at least one season too long in the tooth now…
Rugby is a young man’s game, coaches that know their oats will realize this and harness the vigour of youth and only use experience where it is absolutely necessary and only where there isn’t adequate youthful cover in place.
Habana still flapping around doing pretty much diddly squat.
New look Bok selection squad
Taute / Viljoen
Aplon
De Jongh / Mapoe
Venter / Steyn
Engelbrecht
Goosen / Jantjies / Van Aswegen
Hougaard / Duvenhage
Botha / Alberts
Coetsee / Kolisi
Minnie / Brussow
Bekker / Etsebeth
Elstadt / Sykes / Vd Merwe
Oosthuizen / JdP
BdP / Chili
Greyling / Beast
27 Jan 2012, 23:55 pm
@Tuna-50: WTF you on about.. JM tried to use Butch again tonight and how kak was the Lions.. JM lost the Lions an investor with kak decision regarding Jantjies. Guma Tac could see that the Lions were not interested in winning hence their pull out. Big money spent on Butch and all the c unt could deliver was a couple of yellow cards and plenty penalties.
27 Jan 2012, 23:58 pm
@ashampoopaloo-52: I think the young guys you selected will play a part in the future, but not this year or the next except maybe for Taute, De Jongh, Minnie (young Guys) to play part this year.
28 Jan 2012, 00:19 am
Grant Fourie FdP can stay away they’re not needed
WO JdV Habana Butch can move over their time is nigh
Matfield Botha Smit can retire they’re klaar
Burger Smith can start planning their pension they’re almost klaar
there is so much youthful talent coming through to take these klaar gelag pensioners places its scary
Invest in youth now and build a new team to carry forward as far as 2019 the old guard are done let them R.I.P.
28 Jan 2012, 00:24 am
@youknowwho-53: You know exactly what I’m on about goldfish. Regarding tonight JM used Butch tonight because Jantjies arm is in a sling. JM lost the investor? HAHAHA!! Who brought Butch on board? GumaTac made it clear they did. The bs you spew on this site is fcking hilarious. Keep posting twit…
28 Jan 2012, 00:44 am
@Tuna-56: Guma Tac were advised that Butch was a good buy. They questioned that advice after. They found out that they were sold a dummy. Jantjies arm ina sling does not detract from the fact the Lions are kak without him
28 Jan 2012, 04:08 am
Lions are a joke… Currie Cup rugby is a joke… Kings will replace them in 2013 if the Cheetahs have a ‘decent’ S15 again…
One things for sure… there will never be a 6th weak South African side!
28 Jan 2012, 04:26 am
And we start to see what the Lions are really made of.
Stormers missing key players.
Lions send out virtually the same team that won them the CC (which was more like the Vodacom Cup_)
And the Lions still get hammered.
They haven’t gotten better. They’ll finish at the bottom of the SA conference again. Might even have a tough time finishing above the Hurricanes & Rebels.
28 Jan 2012, 04:28 am
@bryce_in_oz-58:
I think the CC will benefit from better structures in place, and only having 6 teams in there.
Also if the Springbok coach stops making use of 50 or so players throughout the year and rather sticks to his 26 (usual size of touring squad) or so players.
28 Jan 2012, 04:31 am
@youknowwho-57:
Puh-lease. The Lions are kuk. Can’t blame it on Jantjies not being there.
They got the easy road in the CC, against teams that suffered massive injuries orwere missing most of their best players to the Boks.
Lions might as well pack their bags. Kings will and should replace them, at least until they sort their **** out.
28 Jan 2012, 04:43 am
@hendrikp-60:
The ‘big’ comp is the S15 national conference… I reckon the smaller CC will only detriment those unions not in it…
Make the local conference the CC title and replace the CC with the VC… it will happen sooner or later anyway…
28 Jan 2012, 05:38 am
62 Bryce_in_Oz: you’d really love SARU to drop the Currie Cup wouldn’t you? So that your newly beloved Arsetralia is not the ONLY SANZAR partner without a domestic competition? Bwahahahaha
SARU generates mad revenue from the Currie Cup -from TV rights to sponsors – now why in their right mind would they kill that golden goose and end up in the same situation as Oz & b-itching about tri-nations matches in RWC years?
John o’Neill’s little coup will be repelled when this current contract is up for renewal, this super15 is cumbersome.
28 Jan 2012, 06:34 am
@Transformation-63:
Hey FATBOY will you ever again reach the physical level of the agile lithe ‘Black Cat’ Cele after all the whisky and beer and more that you ‘suip’.
Is it that nagging thought that causes you to lose sleep on a Saturday, very early , morning?
Be careful I know you to within 2 names but I will not ever write it here.
28 Jan 2012, 06:36 am
@bryce_in_oz-62:
They’ll leave Super Rugby before they ditch the Currie Cup. It’s just too important a competition in SA, which unfortunately has to be played during the international season.
28 Jan 2012, 07:12 am
ET: me a ‘Fatboy’? Hahahahaha
as to why i’m awake, it’s none of your f-ucking business!
whether you know my name or not is immaterial, a number of people here know who i am, it’s not a closely guarded secret.
28 Jan 2012, 07:19 am
The game was deemed not good enough to be broadcasted
Better keep it that way, rather run into any conclusion, what was the temperature at Newlands anyway?
28 Jan 2012, 07:21 am
@Transformation-66:
He doesn’t realise the sun’s already up here. He’s just looking for conversation because it’s after midnight where he is.
You must be chuffed the Kings are in Super rugby. Just hope it becommes the S16 and Sanzar reverts to the old system not this conference ****.
28 Jan 2012, 09:05 am
To add insult to injury, the mangy Lions Rugby Union are indeed in the financial dwang.
Their bleck investor had a hissy fit and threw his toys out the cot and has pulled out.
28 Jan 2012, 09:09 am
The Stormers were penalised 18 times to the lione 8 times
the stormers scrum was , at best, unconvincing….
A lot of hard work lays ahead ….
That scrum frightens the c rap out of me….gonna cost us again…..matter of time.
what I would do for a real mean tighthead.
beast out for 3 months by the way for those that dont know
28 Jan 2012, 09:13 am
@hendrikp-65:
Super Rugby ‘is’ rugby without it there’d be no money to keep players in RSA…
28 Jan 2012, 10:01 am
The Sharks should have a good Super15 campaign in 2012
Smit gone, Skyke is back and the Beast is off for 3 months, all the essential ingredients are in place
28 Jan 2012, 10:11 am
@Hondo-72: well you right about Plod…..
and sykes
as for beast.
my normal message to you bigot
farkoff
28 Jan 2012, 10:30 am
First off thanks to Katman for the ticket, and the beers.
The stormers outfit looked good, really well drilled and played very well as a unit.
Scrum looked shaky, we were going backwards most of the time.
Eben Etsebeth is coming on really nicely, he got around the park nicely, played the tight role really well and in one tackle picked up one of the Lions players right off his feet and drove him back.
Aplon looked his usual slippery best, the try after half time was sublime, he had nothing to work from and slipped and snaked his way through multiple defenders to score. He is a really classy player.
Juan de Jongh looked very pacey. He has fantastic acceleration and shot through a midfield gap only to fumble the ball later and kill the move.
Schalk was his usual self, enough said there, good game. Kolisi good game too, he gets around.
Koster has put on a kilo or 2, not a bad game at all
I’ll say this, against a team with a “fetcher” as everyone was talking about last week, we didn’t struggle at the breakdown at all. So point 1 to AC, haters 0.
The Butcher was kuk, Katman is right, on one tackle it looked like he tried to litterally jump up into the face of one of the WP backline and take his head off. Very poor judgement by Butch, it looks like his time has come and gone.
Bondisio as very good for the Lions, he’s a great player. Hendrik Roodt was also very good, he’s a seri-aaaas hitman and just loves to run into the opposition.
Taute looked solid, made some runs, shut down by the excellent Stormers defence though, on one occasion being tackled by Van Aswegen.
Gary Van As played well, a couple of errors at the beginning but settled in very well.
Burton came on in the second half and also played well. By then the Stormers had a substantial lead.
Lions were the master of their own disaster last night, they had more than a few promising attacking positions ruined through handling errors, some of them unforced and out of the blue. If they can get those kinks ironed out they will threaten everyone this season.
Remebering that this was a practice match with a few 1st team players on both sides not present, the game will be a different one when they meet again.
Cannot read too much out of this, the Lions were closer than the score suggests.
If the game can be summed up by one period of play, it’s when Gio was yellow carded with about 5 minutes to go and we still had Koster and Steenkamp on the yellow card bench. So 12 men on the field. Lions were 5 meters out from our line with the penalty from Gio’s card.
We held them out and turned the ball over. That sums it up best. Expect more huge defensive performances from the Stormers this season.
And expect more from the Lions this year, With Butch out and Elton in that very impressive backline will be a totally different unit.
Entertaining match if you were a Stormers supporter and Kudo’s to Katman for wearing his Lions jersey and sitting in a sea of blue screaming for his team with no regard for his personal safety.
28 Jan 2012, 10:38 am
@stormersboy-74:
Good summmary, Stormerboy.
Do you think you could take beers off katman for a living?
28 Jan 2012, 10:44 am
I just want to say something about this article:
After the embarrassing episode yesterday with the Keo staff (and Vrede especially) shamelessly punting Watson (their HSM client) for the Bok captaincy I now see that another HSM goose, Butch James “brought his own brutish brand thereof to this warm-up fixture”. Seriously!!???? You guys must be kidding. He was no good last night and almost got carded with his usual behaviour. even Katman thought he was “kuk”. enough said.
And btw we got 3 yellow cards, not 2 and at one stage for a short period were reduced to 12 men. Not 13.
Pull up your socks guys,
Seriously.
28 Jan 2012, 10:46 am
@IAAS-75: LOL he bought some I bought some.
And some pissed Lions supporter who didn’t have the guts to wear a jersey (although I doubt they make one in his size) bought us some, probably without even realizing it.
And credit to Katters for wanting to charge the guy 10 bucks to have his photo taken with him. LOL. True story.
28 Jan 2012, 10:52 am
@stormersboy-74: Etsebeth was magnificent
We are being done on the deck…..18 penalties to 8 and 3 cards for ineffective play at the breakdown.
We will miss Flo…..
28 Jan 2012, 10:53 am
@stormersboy-74:
You should also mention that the Stromers lineout was very good and stole numerous Lions ball.
Also that we were massively penalized at the breakdown, which allowed the Lions territorial advantage with the resultant kicks, not sure if we were that poor at the breakdown or that Peyper was getting it wrong, but hugely concerning from a Stormers perspective. Also De Kok Steenkamp seems to have a new lease of life,
Add Vermeulen, duvenhage, Andries and elstadt to the mix the stormers can only get better. Scrum and discipline 2 major worries that need addressing if we want to be taken seriously.
One thing this win will do is hopefully shut Katman up iro his anti stormers tirade, but I doubt it !!!
28 Jan 2012, 10:53 am
@stormersboy-77:
That’s katters for you. Sounds like a good evening.
But I think Mitchell will crack the whip now and all the Lions players will realise the difference between Super rugby and Currie Cup. Even if it was a warm-up match. There should be an improved performance against the Cheetahs.
And I also expect one or two changes in the Stormers starting line-up against the Cheetahs – just to give each player plenty of game time. Not forgetting there is still a match against the EP Kings.
28 Jan 2012, 10:59 am
I would like to see the territory and possession stats of the game…
seems we defended [ brilliantly ] for a large part of it…
Problem is that works against some teams…..
But will it work against the Saders and Reds?
And that scrum?
I know I sound hyper critical…..
But I know a great coach who always told me ” enjoy the victory for an hour or 2
then criticaly analyse what went wrong
and fix it’
28 Jan 2012, 11:02 am
@justrugby-79: Yes our lineouts were good. It must be quite intimidating to be throwing in against Etsebeth at the front of the lineout. Imagine him at the front with Bekker in the middle.
@grant10-78: We did give away some penalties but also turned over a lot of their ball and stopped a lot of their possession. So for me the jury is still out.
28 Jan 2012, 11:03 am
Koster not easily going to get dropped….
Kolsi is showing great form…
Nice problem to have at 7 and 8…
Kitshoff hopefuly plays against Cheetahs next weekend…upagainst Brussow willprove whether he can do the job….
28 Jan 2012, 11:10 am
@stormersboy-82: Brussow, Todd…Pocock…Steggmann….
Lets wait and see….
Super 15 played in good conditions where ball goes wide early….
The opensider specialist is crucial….
Lions had plenty of the ball……it was awesome defence that kepr them in check…..and a moment or 2 of brilliance bt VDH and Aplon….
I was also impressed with Joe P…..
Habana rather dissapointing but done well when shifted to outside centre….
It is a good start….
And importantly has highlighted the ares of concerns
so AC will know our weaknesses…..
and can work on them…….all in all…very good …exactly what a preseason game should provide…..
For me….these games are about highlighting concern areas….and the game certainly did.
Carstens needs to get a run at 3…..maybe he learned something in the NH….gotta shore up that scrum somehow…..Saders will destroy us….again
28 Jan 2012, 11:13 am
@grant10-84: Good points all.
As you say, lets hope we can improve on the weak points.
Scrum worries me the most out of all of them.
Pieterson as you say looked great, like he never left!
28 Jan 2012, 11:21 am
@stormersboy-85: Joe P is a crucial component there…we should never had let him go…
The team I would like to see get a run against Cheetahs….
15 joe p
14 g vdh
13 JDJ
12 JDV
11 APLON
10 G VAN ASWEGEN [ CLASS ]
9 duvenhage
8 koster
6 kitshoff
7 schalk
5 Bekker
4 etsebeth [ farken awesome last night truly bloody outrageous ]
3 Carstens
2 liebenberg
1 kitshoff
16 kolisi
17 Fourie
18 Johannes
19 quin roux
20 brock
21 groom
22 b francis
23 habana
24 brache
28 Jan 2012, 11:22 am
Then EP Kings lets see what Carr can do….and hopefully Vermeulen will also get a run there
28 Jan 2012, 11:25 am
@stormersboy-74: so it seems that handling and decision making was a weakness. This should improve with match fitness. Lineouts still a problem and Butch not in the same league as Elton. Mitch will do well to drop Butch and bring in Hein as Elton’s backup.
Work to do in some areas, result is immaterial … remember the guppies getting a hiding in last years warmup match.
28 Jan 2012, 11:28 am
Joe Pietersen has always impressed me. At one stage he was regarded as one of the quickest players in SA ( by Phil Pretorius at Maties). The lightie has pace, excellent hands, confident under the high ball and his defence is solid. And he can kick for poles. I like to believe that he has a future in the game. And I’m sure Heyneke will have a look at him. After all, he rates Stormers players highly. Think Sadie and JJ.
28 Jan 2012, 11:38 am
@RL-88: Yes, that wasn’t the only thing but certainly a major learning point for Mitchell to take from the game.
I think people forget just how good the Stormers are at closing down space and forcing errors though. Not all their errors were unforced.
Also I think the decision making could improve. The Lions were 5 yards out with 12 players on the field for the Stormers, 2 forwards missing and they didn’t go for a scrum, beggars belief really, They could have tied up the 8 forcing massive gaps on the outside, or if the Stormers didn’t commit backline players to the scrum they would have scrummed against 6 and could have walked that ball over the line.
Didn’t make sense.
It was one of those nights.
28 Jan 2012, 11:44 am
@stormersboy-90:
It was “one of those nights.”
Also got my tickets to see The Eagles.
28 Jan 2012, 12:29 pm
@IAAS-91: Fantastic.
Off outside for some R&R
Take it easy.
28 Jan 2012, 12:31 pm
@IAAS-89: PS Joe played very well. Came into the line a few times, made some stuff happen. He will make a real difference this year.
28 Jan 2012, 13:16 pm
@grant10-86:
Ja, i agree with that team. maybe JP du Plessis on the bench.
Elstadt might not be able to get back- Etsebeth is bigger, more athletic, better in the lineouts, nearly as physical etc….. but they can rotate- Etsebeth can play no 4 or 5.
And lets hope Gary can remain injury free…. the fact that he is such a courageous tackler (for his size) makes me fear for his safety (a bit like Jonny Wilkenson in that regard).
I am fairly positive for the season- lots of young talent all around.
28 Jan 2012, 13:47 pm
@Robzim-94:
Hi Rob
True but I worry about our quality of depth at centre. You could see last night how JDEV runs the backline, if he gets a serious injury I will be very concerned, same applies to JDEJ.
We have options but not the quality in depth right now at centre, that makes me very uncomfortable.
As you have said before, perhaps we must consider popgun Pete only as a centre !!
28 Jan 2012, 14:06 pm
@RL-88:
Chune your connections at the GLRU that if they need a couple of bucks to tide them over for the month I’m willing to lend them a few thousand but my interest charges are very high.
I’ll take Ellis Park as collateral.
28 Jan 2012, 14:38 pm
@justrugby-95:
I disagree. Compared to other SA franchises we’re well covered.
12. JdeV, JdJ, P. PGrant
13. JdJ, Habana, JP duP
Then there’s Brache.
28 Jan 2012, 17:36 pm
@ashampoopaloo-52: I agree with most of your squad but how does a player like PAT LAMBiE not make it also i think Killian from the Lions a great prospect…………Etsebeth was bloody awesome!!!Can’t wait to see him partnered with Bekker
28 Jan 2012, 17:48 pm
Its quite interesting how much the bloggers here take away from a match which was deemed not worth broadcasting?!
28 Jan 2012, 18:11 pm
Franny Louw having a very good game for Bath. It just emphasises what can be accomplished when the ‘Bond’ restrictions, be they of the ‘verligte ‘ or ‘verkrampte’ type, are eradicated and players are allowed to express their skillful components.
28 Jan 2012, 18:15 pm
And Franny Louw is duly and again declared Man of the Match.
Good stuff Franny. Hope you are not a ‘Ruiterwagter’.
28 Jan 2012, 18:23 pm
Damn Franny has a lot of bubbly to imbibe. Remember there is always another game in the week, so drink responsibly ‘boytjie’.
29 Jan 2012, 02:26 am
@Chris4Lions-44: If I’m not mistaken Murray didn’t play in the final. He was injured. Can’t remember that he was on the bench?
29 Jan 2012, 21:06 pm
not televised but found this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YiqFStE2zE classy!
30 Jan 2012, 12:38 pm
3men from stormers got yellow cards!
for what mr ref.
james high tackled and got a warning and penalty against him but stormeres got 3 yellows.
something radically wrong when james punishment compared to stormers yellow cards,.
time to sort out refereeing stuff up before season gets going.
sure watson would not be happy but why keep quiet and not tell the paying public
the reason for the discrepancies.
very simple.
does not want to embarish the happy whistler.
fix up the stuff up before we have more such pathetic displays.
30 Jan 2012, 12:43 pm
for those of us who were able to be at newlands and witness the early wp vodacom side it was prity evident why this youngster from bishops was included in the pre season stormers training squad.
every time timo swiel touched the ball he displayed pure class.
and the way he defended showed and proved that if you are good enough age is not a criteria.
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